Paul Boudreau, Bombers special teams coach has not had his contract renewed for the 2024 season. It is unclear if he will be replaced from outside the organization or from within. I wonder if Mike Miller is retiring and would be interested in becoming the new special teams coordinator.
He is not listed in bluebombers.com coaching directory. Sounds like there could be a change.
Quote from: bwiser on January 04, 2024, 12:22:28 AM
Paul Boudreau, Bombers special teams coach has not had his contract renewed for the 2024 season. It is unclear if he will be replaced from outside the organization or from within. I wonder if Mike Miller is retiring and would be interested in becoming the new special teams coordinator.
Agree, some new blood would be good.
One less person for someone to watch like a hawk.
;)
Miller at first glance seems like a natural fit as our STs coordinator....however just because he may be the GOAT special teamed may not necessarily translate into being a great coach. Perhaps someone on this forum could comment on Miller's football acumen/IQ.
Bombers used to be the most creative ST team in the league, haven't seen a hint of creativity the past two seasons.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 04, 2024, 05:31:44 AM
Bombers used to be the most creative ST team in the league, haven't seen a hint of creativity the past two seasons.
Something I mention all the time. Remember O'Shea at Toronto and when he first came over here?
Not only were special teams fun to watch, but he seemed to have a bag of tricks on offence that he opened up regularly. That's all gone away in recent years.
Perhaps it's a case of no longer needing to do it, but it's something I miss.
A little surprising, IMO. A few key injuries certainly didn't help special teams in 2023.
Makes me wonder if this decision was made mutually.
I agree on the lack of creativity as something that had been missing recently.
I don't mind a change there but the "lack of creativity" probably should fall on O'Shea's lap, if you want to blame anyone. Special teams coaches don't choose when to employ fake punts, etc. For the most part, we haven't needed to do run those types of plays over the last few years. Instead, at least up until this past year, overwhelming consistency on the teams has been enough and probably the smartest play.
Wouldnt be surprized if we dont replace him, with the operations cap likely was the only way to retain the rest of the staff. O'Shea might take over. Wouldnt be as difficult as other teams ie elks where jones is dc or Riders Mace .
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on January 04, 2024, 02:10:06 PM
I don't mind a change there but the "lack of creativity" probably should fall on O'Shea's lap, if you want to blame anyone. Special teams coaches don't choose when to employ fake punts, etc. For the most part, we haven't needed to do run those types of plays over the last few years. Instead, at least up until this past year, overwhelming consistency on the teams has been enough and probably the smartest play.
I can see this, they don't really need a bag of tricks when they can win most games straight up with talent and execution. O'Shea has become more conservative in his approach and gambling when unnecessary just opens him up to criticism when they fail. Riderfans were always quick to crucify Dickenson whenever a gamble went wrong.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 04, 2024, 05:30:18 PM
I can see this, they don't really need a bag of tricks when they can win most games straight up with talent and execution. O'Shea has become more conservative in his approach and gambling when unnecessary just opens him up to criticism when they fail. Riderfans were always quick to crucify Dickenson whenever a gamble went wrong.
If you start listening to what fans want, you will soon be joining them in the stands.
https://3downnation.com/2024/01/04/bombers-moving-on-from-special-teams-coordinator-paul-boudreau-report/
Injuries were a factor to be sure
Maybe O'Shea takes it over and they use the savings for raises for Buck and/or Walters?
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on January 04, 2024, 06:38:35 PM
Maybe O'Shea takes it over and they use the savings for raises for Buck and/or Walters?
Not a bad idea, IMO.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on January 04, 2024, 02:10:06 PM
I don't mind a change there but the "lack of creativity" probably should fall on O'Shea's lap, if you want to blame anyone. Special teams coaches don't choose when to employ fake punts, etc. For the most part, we haven't needed to do run those types of plays over the last few years. Instead, at least up until this past year, overwhelming consistency on the teams has been enough and probably the smartest play.
Oh, 100%. Was never suggesting it was a Boudreau issue. I?m just wondering what happened that made MOS so conservative.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on January 04, 2024, 06:38:35 PM
Maybe O'Shea takes it over and they use the savings for raises for Buck and/or Walters?
Was also wondering about this.
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The Blue Bombers have confirmed to the Free Press that STC Paul Boudreau's contract will not be extended into the '24 season. Boudreau has been with the CFL club since '17, helping lead Wpg to four straight Grey Cups. It's unclear right now who will take over the now-vacant role.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 04, 2024, 05:31:44 AM
Bombers used to be the most creative ST team in the league, haven't seen a hint of creativity the past two seasons.
Have to agree here, we probably have done the least amount of creativity, and or trickery than any team in league the last few yrs. Why is that?....who knows....was it MOS didn't put as much into it as he used to, as that was his real bread and butter, or did things just go stale, and new blood needed to be injected....likely handful of both
A needed move by the Bombers. When the trinity sat down to evaluate ST play I am sure that they were all in agreement that the last year, or even two, left a lot to be desired. MOS would never pull the trigger on a coordinator unless it was warranted.
I would laugh if little Dickey came back into this role. :D
In the end it's the GM pulling the trigger when all evaluation is done with HC and possibly OC and DC.
same with hiring....HC will have his preferred choice in what he wants and his candidates, but in the end, it will be the G.M stamping the approval....or asking for other options....He is the boss and for most part and it's his team when all said and done
Show me an instance where a HC has fired his G.M
Quote from: Dodge and Burn on January 05, 2024, 05:36:49 PM
I would laugh if little Dickey came back into this role. :D
It's likely Osh takes over the role, and it makes for an easier Admin cap use with Buck likely earning more this yr, as well as Osh's larger salary and whatever bump Walter's received
Quote from: booch on January 05, 2024, 05:43:57 PM
It's likely Osh takes over the role, and it makes for an easier Admin cap use with Buck likely earning more this yr, as well as Osh's larger salary and whatever bump Walter's received
Maybe, but not without an assistant to take care of the day to day details, I don't think O'Shea wants or needs to take on extra work. I think he started out doing both jobs and can't recall when he gave up control of ST, but I believe Boudreau has been the only STC he's employed.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 05, 2024, 06:38:01 PM
Maybe, but not without an assistant to take care of the day to day details, I don't think O'Shea wants or needs to take on extra work. I think he started out doing both jobs and can't recall when he gave up control of ST, but I believe Boudreau has been the only STC he's employed.
With the veteran laden team we have, , and the well experienced other coaches, Og any coach in the league O'Shea is best positioned to take on extra. He himself always goes on about how little he has to coach because the locker-room tend to police themselves.
GMs don't lose their jobs when coordinators fail, HCs do. If the Bombers are an organization where the HC does not pick his own coordinators coming and going then I doubt we would have the success we have had. If a GM orders a coach to fire a coordinator I don't want that GM anymore. The HC picks his staff. Nothing in the way MOS operates, nor any public account or comment I have ever heard, leads me to believe that MOS would allow that to happen. I am sure MOS would walk away before that.
I could see Mike Miller retiring and working with MOS as our new ST coach.
OShea also believes that coaches should be paid for success, with the operations cap that limits the options considerably
If Jones can be GM/HC/DC, Oshea can handle HC/STC...
Quote from: theaardvark on January 05, 2024, 10:13:01 PM
If Jones can be GM/HC/DC, Oshea can handle HC/STC...
How is Jones doing?
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 04, 2024, 05:31:44 AM
Bombers used to be the most creative ST team in the league, haven't seen a hint of creativity the past two seasons.
2? The last time we were creative on ST Fogg and Leggett were on the team.
Quote from: Jesse on January 04, 2024, 12:06:32 PM
Perhaps it's a case of no longer needing to do it, but it's something I miss.
Yup, you guys nailed it on everything I could have added. Bad teams need the tricks. Good teams just win by the book.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on January 04, 2024, 02:10:06 PM
I don't mind a change there but the "lack of creativity" probably should fall on O'Shea's lap, if you want to blame anyone. Special teams coaches don't choose when to employ fake punts, etc.
100% MOS. Blame Boudreau for a lot, like the '22 GC loss, but not for any lack of creativity when it comes to wacky gambles.
Quote from: Pete on January 04, 2024, 05:03:57 PM
Wouldnt be surprized if we dont replace him, with the operations cap likely was the only way to retain the rest of the staff. O'Shea might take over. Wouldnt be as difficult as other teams ie elks where jones is dc or Riders Mace .
Quote from: Pete on January 05, 2024, 09:59:47 PM
OShea also believes that coaches should be paid for success, with the operations cap that limits the options considerably
You guys are so smart! We all wondered where the extra money was going to come from for KW and Buck to both be retained, when it was pretty obvious their pay had to go up. Voila, Boudreau is hosed. There's your money. As a 6 year vet Boudreau would have been earning decent money, even if only getting tiny bumps every year.
Hey... wacky idea: if we want Mike Miller to be STC, but there's no money in coaches SMS for it... why not keep Miller as a player on his normal salary and make him de facto STC? Voila: more money for KW+Buck and our new STC still gets paid. The best part is, he can play as well as coordinate (and it won't matter to the SMS if he gets injured!).
Quote from: Dodge and Burn on January 05, 2024, 05:36:49 PM
I would laugh if little Dickey came back into this role. :D
I would hire Craig in a heartbeat to be our STC, but he'd have to come cheaper than Boudreau and there's no way that's happening. It is a funny thought, though! SSK fans would go mental on Craig when we visit there for LDC.
BTW for those thinking MOS: no way MOS does any STC on his own, he's learned to be a true delegator. He's busy enough on the sidelines keeping everything in check, no way he has time to mess around every 5-10 snaps coordinating a kick/punt. Someone else, no matter how junior, will have to be in charge.
Bob Dyce. Cheap can live in his own house.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 05, 2024, 08:44:01 PM
I could see Mike Miller retiring and working with MOS as our new ST coach.
Nice call! I think this is a great move.
Miller was pretty banged up the last couple years.
One of the best to ever do it!
Quote from: LXTSN on January 08, 2024, 02:19:49 PM
Nice call! I think this is a great move.
Miller was pretty banged up the last couple years.
One of the best to ever do it!
I think with a little help from MOS, he will turn into a pretty good coach. Glad he is still with the Bombers.
Miller is going to be a good coach, IMO.