Does the league fine or suspend Robertson for his headbutt on Collaros?? I think he should get both.
It?s sad to see dickenson say he didn?t think it was that bad. I think the club should get fined for that statement as well.
Absolute classless act, and there is no room in this game for that. The league has got to make a statement here?1 game suspension and $2500 fine, minimum.
I would also like to hear from the league why no one on the field threw a flag on the play?? Does that mean all the officials are ball hawking and not watching the Qb after the play. Shame on the officials hopefully they are dealt with as well.
Like techno said - nobody in the stadium saw it unless they saw it live. Dickenson didn't see it...I can't imagine that if Hardrick saw it happen that guy would have been pasted into the turf.
Fine and one game suspension. Anything less is a total joke
Quote from: The Zipp on September 04, 2023, 06:20:05 PM
Like techno said - nobody in the stadium saw it unless they saw it live. Dickenson didn't see it...I can't imagine that if Hardrick saw it happen that guy would have been pasted into the turf.
Fine and one game suspension. Anything less is a total joke
Exactly what I?ve said. Fine and a one game suspension. Anything less than that and they might as well stop all their talk about protecting the quarterback.
Should be 3 or 4 games minimum. A one game suspension. Is a joke. Isn't he repeat offender
And there it is. Robertson suspended for one game according to TSN
I don't think there will be a suspension, just a fine. Collarus was not injured and if it was up to him, he would not have missed a play. I think that the inner soccer player came out in him and he saw the chance to draw a penalty which was smart on his part. I see players do those headbuts all the time in post touchdown celebration, I that if it is enough to cause head injury, you should not be playing football ::)
Sanchez crying he got a one game suspension. Says it happens all the time. He's an idiot. The whistle was dead the play was over.
Quote from: bugsybomber on September 04, 2023, 07:33:10 PM
I don't think there will be a suspension, just a fine. Collarus was not injured and if it was up to him, he would not have missed a play. I think that the inner soccer player came out in him and he saw the chance to draw a penalty which was smart on his part. I see players do those headbuts all the time in post touchdown celebration, I that if it is enough to cause head injury, you should not be playing football ::)
He WAS suspended for one game. I?m not even gonna respond to the rest of your post ::)
oops, posted too late :)
Quote from: buckzumhoff on September 04, 2023, 07:34:20 PM
Sanchez crying he got a one game suspension. Says it happens all the time. He's an idiot. The whistle was dead the play was over.
Really - Sanchez was defending that play? I probably won't watch any CFL today - still sulking.
Why not? Can't think of a response?
Quote from: buckzumhoff on September 04, 2023, 07:34:20 PM
Sanchez crying he got a one game suspension. Says it happens all the time. He's an idiot. The whistle was dead the play was over.
He?s probably not wrong that it happens all the time, but there?s a difference with two hulking lineman going at each other than one guy leaning entirely into a prone guy just standing there that weighs 80 lbs less than you.
If it was any other QB, it would have been much ado about nothing
The play was over. He walked up and headbutted him. He couldn't get to him between the whistles. I think that's why he was so mad.
Well be will be absent next game. GOOD THE *******!
Quote from: bugsybomber on September 04, 2023, 07:44:30 PM
If it was any other QB, it would have been much ado about nothing
Not sure why you are trolling, but you definitely are.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 04, 2023, 07:39:53 PM
Really - Sanchez was defending that play? I probably won't watch any CFL today - still sulking.
He started by saying he agreed with Matty and Milt that it was a bad play, but then went on to say it happens every play. Matt challenged that, and I would agree - that sort of intent to injure play (well after the whistle, having nothing at all to do with the play) does NOT happen every play.
Milt appropriately called it egregious, I think Sanchez challenged that notion a bit. Then saw Matt and Milt with their expressions and tried to explain.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 04, 2023, 07:49:58 PM
Well be will be absent next game. GOOD THE *******!
I still hope he makes the trip. Donny?s away next week so I snagged his tickets. I was hoping to give it to him hard. It?ll be even more fun if he?s just standing there in street clothes while we?re kicking their ***.
At least the eye in the sky caught it and he has been suspended.....
Sad Sanchez sees nothing wrong with the hit but then again he isn?t the sharpest knife in the drawer.
The league rightfully so suspended the player, one game is a step, 2 would have been more accurate. This is an era where concussion prevention and head shots are to be eliminated and the bonehead does this??!! Inexcusable and so are sanchez?s comments.
Quote from: Big Daddy on September 04, 2023, 07:53:39 PM
He started by saying he agreed with Matty and Milt that it was a bad play, but then went on to say it happens every play. Matt challenged that, and I would agree - that sort of intent to injure play (well after the whistle, having nothing at all to do with the play) does NOT happen every play.
Milt appropriately called it egregious; I think Sanchez challenged that notion a bit. Then saw Matt and Milt with their expressions and tried to explain.
it's totally ridiculous to say it happens every play, in this age where a tap to the qbs head is penalized, I haven't seen a play that egregious for a very long time. Even Micah Johnson who was right beside him threw his hands up in the air as if to say what the hell are you doing man.
B.s.
it was a blatant attempt to injure a star player who was prone to the ?hit?. The useless loser rider will be flipping burgers next year, and no one protects a hall of fame QB.
****** WWE is less blatant
The guy should be suspended five games and the club fined $100,000.00. The intent was clear, and could end Collaros career. Collaros likely will be finished if he sustains another concussion.
Quote from: bugsybomber on September 04, 2023, 07:33:10 PM
I don't think there will be a suspension, just a fine. Collarus was not injured and if it was up to him, he would not have missed a play. I think that the inner soccer player came out in him and he saw the chance to draw a penalty which was smart on his part. I see players do those headbuts all the time in post touchdown celebration, I that if it is enough to cause head injury, you should not be playing football ::)
Hey, pretty good attempt by a cryder fan to use ?bomber? in their handle so we don?t know you?re a troll! Thanks for signing up and checking us out after you finally won a game against us. Bye bye now :-*
Quote from: bugsybomber on September 04, 2023, 07:44:30 PM
If it was any other QB, it would have been much ado about nothing
Very classy of you....who are you?
It was a total brainfart, and I don't think there was a premeditated attempt to injure, but it was egregious, uncalled for and one game is a very light penalty.
There was no way he should continue in the game, he should have been immediately ejected.
The fact that the eye in the sky took Collaros out of the game says they knew there was a serious foul, and command centre should have called down with the ejection.
Its one thing to call a glancing hand to the helmet during the play as a 15 yard penalty, a headbutt after the play is on a whole 'nother level, and should have been dealt with at the time, and the suspension should have been harsher.
Much as Sanches thinks this happens all the time, especially amongst the hoggies, it doesn't. And if it does, it should be dealt with quickly and severely.
"Helmet to helmet" is the big focus. This is the epitome of that.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 04, 2023, 08:57:52 PM
It was a total brainfart, and I don't think there was a premeditated attempt to injure, but it was egregious, uncalled for and one game is a very light penalty.
There was no way he should continue in the game, he should have been immediately ejected.
The fact that the eye in the sky took Collaros out of the game says they knew there was a serious foul, and command centre should have called down with the ejection.
Its one thing to call a glancing hand to the helmet during the play as a 15 yard penalty, a headbutt after the play is on a whole 'nother level, and should have been dealt with at the time, and the suspension should have been harsher.
Much as Sanches thinks this happens all the time, especially amongst the hoggies, it doesn't. And if it does, it should be dealt with quickly and severely.
"Helmet to helmet" is the big focus. This is the epitome of that.
Your post is all true except for the first sentence. I can?t think of headbutting someone and not trying to injure them?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 04, 2023, 07:49:58 PM
Well be will be absent next game. GOOD THE *******!
Not if he appeals. We'll see.
If you throw a punch are out of the game. Automatic. A head butt is somehow less?
Concerning to me that last year there were problems with the same team head hunting quaterbacks. The guy in question got released EVENTUALLY but it took them long enough and with the exact same denials and fake apologies we are seeing now. I'm sure only league pressure made that happen. Systemic there? You wonder what they coach.
As for Sanchez saying head butts happen every play, sure heads touch, but you don't sucker head butt a player once the play is effectively over and guys are relaxed. It's just dirty and should be penalized to the maximum. The Banjo Bowl brawl of 2021 happened after the play too. Again I ask, is it systemic in Regina? Are they coached to play that way? Or coaches just pretend not to notice and is that not the same thing?
They coach that way. They want players to play like that. That's why they are penalized so much. Problem is they don't have talent. Monctief and Robertson and a few others were doing it all game. Wasn't one play. They were playing tough after the whistle. The coaches teach them that
Quote from: kronic on September 04, 2023, 08:02:01 PM
I still hope he makes the trip. Donny?s away next week so I snagged his tickets. I was hoping to give it to him hard. It?ll be even more fun if he?s just standing there in street clothes while we?re kicking their ***.
lol nice!
Quote from: buckzumhoff on September 04, 2023, 10:12:40 PM
They coach that way. They want players to play like that. That's why they are penalized so much. Problem is they don't have talent. Monctief and Robertson and a few others were doing it all game. Wasn't one play. They were playing tough after the whistle. The coaches teach them that
I agree. I have lost all respect for that organization. I thought they were a community based team who?s community was founded on honour and dignity. The community must be embarrassed by the likes of dukes williams , Marino and now this clown Robertson. Common thread is open mouth breathing inbread dickenson ismtheirmhead coach and condones this. What a classless group of misfits and degenerates
That goon doesn't even where pads. That's how much hitting goes on. All he does is wrestle with people all game. What a goon athlete. Someone should chop block him. That could end his career. It's only a 15 yard penalty. Or the Bombers could put their helmet right on his knees. Hopefully break his knee caps.
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 04, 2023, 09:05:03 PM
Your post is all true except for the first sentence. I can?t think of headbutting someone and not trying to injure them?
When I said "trying to injure" I meant premeditatedly going for someone's knees, or striking a blow to the head of a player.
Yes, a headbutt would fit into that criteria. But I don't think it was premeditated, but rather a reaction to something. I don't think he was trying to take Collaros out of the game, he just chose a player that a headbutt could do that to.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 04, 2023, 11:53:09 PM
When I said "trying to injure" I meant premeditatedly going for someone's knees, or striking a blow to the head of a player.
Yes, a headbutt would fit into that criteria. But I don't think it was premeditated, but rather a reaction to something. I don't think he was trying to take Collaros out of the game, he just chose a player that a headbutt could do that to.
If he threw a punch (less malicious than a head butt, which is one of the most cowardly moves you could do), would you say the same thing? He was just reacting to something and didn?t actually mean to hurt him??
I wonder if the reason the cfl announced the suspension so quickly is that if Roberson appeals they can hold the appeal prior to the banjo bowl game? although the way the riders are talking they want to use it as motivation as a show of support for Roberson in the next game
Absolutely horrifying to see a Rider player once again blatantly target a QB with nintent to injure. Disgusting that this is the same team that effectively ended Masoli's career with a similar dirty, blatant cheap shot. Shameful to see the league respond with a mere slap on the wrist. I'm betting Wade Miller and Mike O'Shea will have plenty more to say on this matter and I look forward to hearing it. If I were O'Shea, I'd refuse to ever shake hands with Craig Dickenson, a coach that repeatedly puts players on the field that intend to injure other players. If Dickenson had any integrity he'd hold his players to a higher standard and make them accountable instead of making excuses for them and trying to downplay their egregious actions. The fact that he doesn't tells me all I need to know about Craig Dickenson. I'm surprised he still has a job.
You can?t use the word integrity and Craig dickenson in the same sentence.
Quote from: dd on September 05, 2023, 12:55:44 AM
You can?t use the word integrity and Craig dickenson in the same sentence.
Amen to that
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 04, 2023, 11:55:00 PM
If he threw a punch (less malicious than a head butt, which is one of the most cowardly moves you could do), would you say the same thing? He was just reacting to something and didn?t actually mean to hurt him??
Heat butts are used in most players celebrations.. not excusing the action, but it is different than a punch. It takes a lot less to head butt than punch. It was a reaction, not a premeditated attack. Doesn't lessen the danger, but it is a reason why they have Murder 1, Murder 2, and manslaughter... this was manslaughter, or maybe murder 2, but definitely not murder one.
Still should be more than a one game...
Quote from: theaardvark on September 05, 2023, 02:02:54 AM
Heat butts are used in most players celebrations.. not excusing the action, but it is different than a punch. It takes a lot less to head butt than punch. It was a reaction, not a premeditated attack. Doesn't lessen the danger, but it is a reason why they have Murder 1, Murder 2, and manslaughter... this was manslaughter, or maybe murder 2, but definitely not murder one.
Still should be more than a one game...
I get what you are saying aards, I really do.
In boxing one can hit away with fair punches, but a head butt is not allowed. Granted no helmets, and in boxing it can immediately make a cut.
But a head butt is not innocuous like you are insinuating. It is very violent. I mean, player safety specifically singles out hits to the head. That includes slaps during a play when someone happens to hit the qb n the head while trying to get to the ball. That can be a major foul.
A clear head butt which is well after the play is over, after Zach has already relaxed after the play is over - that is intentional.
It is at least the equivalent of a sucker punch.
Very cowardly.
It was exactly a sucker punch and should draw an automatic game ejection.
You see a lot of ?jawing? between plays where guys are getting in each others grills. These should be called misconduct fouls and 2 of those and you?re out of the game. But this was far far more than someone getting in your grill. This was a violent, recoil and follow through head butt and he should have been thrown out of the game for rough play.
Of course our three blind mice, or in this case 7 blind mice, between all of them never saw the foul. The head ref is supposed to stay with the Qb after the throw to ensure nothing like this gets missed. Guess he was ball hawking and took his eyes off his assignment. You bet he ll year snout this from the league
Quote from: Pete on September 05, 2023, 12:02:51 AM
I wonder if the reason the cfl announced the suspension so quickly is that if Roberson appeals they can hold the appeal prior to the banjo bowl game? although the way the riders are talking they want to use it as motivation as a show of support for Roberson in the next game
Have you ever seen an appeal be held within a one week time frame? The league has had years to have a quick resolution to an arbitration but it always takes too much time. The CFLPA shouldn't even allow an appeal IMO.
It was a blatant attempt to remove a star player and difference maker from the game. The intent was to injure and there's no room for it in our game. Extremely disappointed with the league's refusal to protect arguably the best player in the game. Disgusted actually.
It was intentional . Clearly
It was after the ball was gone - for some time
It was on a Quarterback whom the league says they want to protect and often refs call penalties on the most minor actions
It was on the MOP.
Premeditated? How do we know it was or was not? Robertson?s word as a gentleman?
Clearly intention.
As noted above head butts are often more serious with more dangerous outcomes than punches.
So a 1 game suspension.
People applauded Bomber players for not reacting.
What have I learned?
As a lineman you should grab the offending players face mask and throw him like a rag doll because the league for some reason does not take this seriously.
As f po r dirty hits any sport I think the offender should be at least suspended without pay as long as the other player is hurt/out and then some. People would think about their actions.
Meanwhile back your programming where an arm tap during the tackle of a running and diving QB gets you 15.
It is ridiculous.
Then the Rider players saying they support him? Whatever ?
https://youtube.com/shorts/srPy4ONnoWw?si=UHTJ4Tf2Nk4lx9Fj
Just saw the hit for the first time (just got home and fast-forwarded).
UNBELIEVABLE. Instant ejection. If the on-field refs miss it then it's an EITS ejection. Instant. Every time, and I'm not being a homer here. Play is whistled done for 5+ seconds and Robertson comes in and commits an obvious unsportsmanlike conduct (UC) by bragging and yelling at the loser of the play, and then he comes in and does one of the more egregious headbutts we've seen in years (UR) to a concussion-prone QB who has 100% full protection because the play is over and he's still in the pocket and he's just standing there minding his own business and taking no steps to defend himself from a psycho DE.
This should be 10 for UC, 15 for UR and an upgrade for egregious UR to 25 and an ejection, as well as suspension and fine. I want to hear command's excuse for why he wasn't ejected. The CFL has shown part of the standard for call upgrades is the after-effects on the player. It's clear Zach is seeing birdies flying. He's not faking, because a) he knows he's going out for 3 plays or the whole game for showing concussion symptoms and b) the flag had not been thrown yet so Zach didn't know they get 3 more tries. EITS has to take into account the after-effects, and it's clear the hit was legit hard by an out of control player.
Ya, in the end it would have just been the same halfway-to-the-goal, and may not have altered the outcome. However, that side was the side Zach was throwing to on the final 2pt attempt... and Robertson was pass rushing hard closing the pocket and limiting escape. So you never know.
(Note: this critical play was yet another one of Buck's stupid short curls that the teams just key on to get bodies in the lanes. Argh, I never want to see that play near the goal line again.)
Anyone try to lip read MOS after the replay when he's talking to the ref? Looks like he says "so you're taking him (the defender) off the field?". Ref shakes his head "no". MOS definitely says "why not". Ya, ref, why not?
This is the second time we've seen MOS legit angry on the sidelines this season. Rightly so.
I haven't read the Rider forum yet, but I really hope that at least 50% of the fans there agree this should have been instant ejection and suspension.
I smell a revenge game coming in 1 week... Our guys are going to cream them hard.
Actually, since I believe there was both callable UC and UR, the flag should have cost them half the distance then half the distance again, so that would have helped guarantee Prukop a TD, instead of the tougher 3 yard run.
To visualize the UC just imagine he didn't headbutt Zach, but just got in his grill. 5s after the play you cannot walk from yards away to get in a QB grill gloating you knocked it down in such an animated manner. Small detail, but it shows the refs were really sleeping.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 04, 2023, 08:57:52 PM
It was a total brainfart, and I don't think there was a premeditated attempt to injure, but it was egregious, uncalled for and one game is a very light penalty.
I agree with Aards. He didn't intend to injure, because he wasn't thinking anything at the moment. He was psycho with adrenalin and is clearly a brutish player who is not in full control of his emotions. He's a loose cannon. That type of player may be even more dangerous than the Simonis and Marinos and Wynns who are in full control and know exactly what they are doing. The Robertson type can't be controlled, even with direct instruction by the coaches. And you never know what craziness he'll do next.
Maybe the most important requirement of a good football player is he can harness and control his adrenalin and anger and direct it to the play between the whistles without going over the edge. Clearly this guy can't do that. And as such he's a liability to his team. If this happened on a MOS team, you can bet there'd be some major discipline or firing. If Fudd is aww-shucksing and brushing this one off, then it is a sign he doesn't take the discipline issue seriously, and I question even more now his ability to coach.
Quote from: kronic on September 04, 2023, 07:31:28 PM
And there it is. Robertson suspended for one game according to TSN
Quote from: buckzumhoff on September 04, 2023, 07:26:48 PM
Should be 3 or 4 games minimum. A one game suspension. Is a joke. Isn't he repeat offender
Maybe it's another sign of "penalizing the effect". If Zach had suffered a concussion, maybe they suspend for 2 or 3. Maybe.
I'm somewhat ok with a one-game. I'm glad they did it so fast, relative to their past slow deliberations. I think a 2-game would have been more appropriate. Why? Because this wasn't a DB punching a SB. This was a big DE possibly concussing the 2-year-running league MOP. It seems a small price for Robertson to pay for possibly season-ending a QB.
However, how much of this is the CFL
protecting Robertson from the pasting he'd get in the BB? How much is this the CFL trying to stop a full-on brawl in the BB? This could just be them trying to keep order. It's a smart move by the CFL.
I really really really hope he appeals and they delay the suspension for over a week. Then I really hope we
legally steamroll that guy between the whistles. Yoshi and Neuf (and Bailey! and Jackson!) know what to do. But a MOS team has to keep it all legal. I don't want to see us with the ejections the CFL will be hair-triggering next week...
Quote from: bugsybomber on September 04, 2023, 07:33:10 PM
I don't think
There's your problem. Ignore the obvious troll. Did you get the handle?? Bug-zee-bomber. Bug-the-bomber. Nice try. Bye troll. He can have fun missing the playoffs while we are in the GC.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 05, 2023, 05:39:27 AM
I agree with Aards. He didn't intend to injure, because he wasn't thinking anything at the moment. He was psycho with adrenalin and is clearly a brutish player who is not in full control of his emotions. He's a loose cannon. That type of player may be even more dangerous than the Simonis and Marinos and Wynns who are in full control and know exactly what they are doing. The Robertson type can't be controlled, even with direct instruction by the coaches. And you never know what craziness he'll do next.
Maybe the most important requirement of a good football player is he can harness and control his adrenalin and anger and direct it to the play between the whistles without going over the edge. Clearly this guy can't do that. And as such he's a liability to his team. If this happened on a MOS team, you can bet there'd be some major discipline or firing. If Fudd is aww-shucksing and brushing this one off, then it is a sign he doesn't take the discipline issue seriously, and I question even more now his ability to coach.
He walked over to collaros after the ball was away and hit him to the point that Collaros was knocked down and taken out of the game. Do you think Robertson had no knowledge of Collaros? concussion history? The fact Collaros was not injured is not proof of lacking intent. His actions clearly show intent. If you want to give him a pass based on ?drela one and not able to control himself so be it. But this is not an inadvertent act, a questionable tackle with a QB has the ball or some accident.
Clearly there was intent to hit Collaros in the head, after the play was away and he had to walk over to collaros to hit him. If not knocking down regardless of Collaros? concussion injury is not intent it is clearly a complete disregard of the consequences and injury, which in it self is intent.
You cannot get into Robertson?s head to determine intent, you have to judge by the actions. Seems clear to me.
Quote from: J5V on September 05, 2023, 12:18:59 AM
Absolutely horrifying to see a Rider player once again blatantly target a QB with nintent to injure. Disgusting that this is the same team that effectively ended Masoli's career with a similar dirty, blatant cheap shot. Shameful to see the league respond with a mere slap on the wrist. I'm betting Wade Miller and Mike O'Shea will have plenty more to say on this matter and I look forward to hearing it. If I were O'Shea, I'd refuse to ever shake hands with Craig Dickenson, a coach that repeatedly puts players on the field that intend to injure other players. If Dickenson had any integrity he'd hold his players to a higher standard and make them accountable instead of making excuses for them and trying to downplay their egregious actions. The fact that he doesn't tells me all I need to know about Craig Dickenson. I'm surprised he still has a job.
It should also be remembered that Marino's initial suspension did not change his behaviour, as soon as he returned he was right back to his old tricks and Dickie did nothing to reel him in. I think he might have lasted two more games before the league had enough, coincidentally his last charade was knocking over Zach well after the play and pretending it was unitentional.
Quote from: Tiger on September 05, 2023, 06:45:55 AM
He walked over to collaros after the ball was away and hit him to the point that Collaros was knocked down and taken out of the game. Do you think Robertson had no knowledge of Collaros? concussion history? The fact Collaros was not injured is not proof of lacking intent. His actions clearly show intent. If you want to give him a pass based on ?drela one and not able to control himself so be it. But this is not an inadvertent act, a questionable tackle with a QB has the ball or some accident.
Clearly there was intent to hit Collaros in the head, after the play was away and he had to walk over to collaros to hit him. If not knocking down regardless of Collaros? concussion injury is not intent it is clearly a complete disregard of the consequences and injury, which in it self is intent.
You cannot get into Robertson?s head to determine intent, you have to judge by the actions. Seems clear to me.
No one can get in his head. But we're half-saying the same thing. I am not saying it was an accident or misguided celebration, like some have around the league. He wilfully went over and egregiously headbutted Zach.
The differentiating factor is that I don't think he was thinking about Zach's history, or concussing Zach or helping his team by knocking Zach out of the game. I don't think he was thinking about much of anything except "look at me I made this huge play and you suck and I'm going to bully you down because I'm a tough thug and you are a weak QB who just screwed up and will probably lose". It is precisely that moment that a player needs to have control over themselves. He intended to gloat, but he just couldn't control himself not to make it physical.
And 99% of the players do maintain control. Micah Johnson keeps control, and he knew instantly how dumb a move that was.
But some more of that 99% are at the margin, who with a little encouragement, like good results and ineffectual, weak punishment, could be enticed to be less in control. That is why the refs and league need to keep a tight lid on out of control players. They are dangerous for everyone and bad for the league.
Rider fans are sure whining about the suspension. What a joke. IIRC they defended Marino last year as well.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 05, 2023, 01:22:17 PM
Rider fans are sure whining about the suspension. What a joke. IIRC they defended Marino last year as well.
INCREDIBLE !! riderfans forum has a bunch of rider fans calling Zach and O'shea cry babies, so that's why the suspension some how came to quickly, and actually defending the idiot.
I had to stop reading it. They say the Bombers have the CFL in their back pocket... like somehow this should have been ignored ??
So irritating !!! >:( This is the reason why I hate GREEN !
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 05, 2023, 01:22:17 PM
Rider fans are sure whining about the suspension. What a joke. IIRC they defended Marino last year as well.
Yeah, the ghouls defending Robertson were probably the same ones who defended Marino's greasy antics last year.
One game not enough, IMO.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 05, 2023, 01:22:17 PM
Rider fans are sure whining about the suspension. What a joke. IIRC they defended Marino last year as well.
He deserved a one game suspension and I am glad the CFL did this swiftly.
Story is now over and should not be a distraction for the Banjo Bowl.....let's move on.
No, we did not whine about the Marino incident last year, we all booed as he left the field.
Quote from: Ridermania on September 05, 2023, 03:33:06 PM
He deserved a one game suspension and I am glad the CFL did this swiftly.
Story is now over and should not be a distraction for the Banjo Bowl.....let's move on.
No, we did not whine about the Marino incident last year, we all booed as he left the field.
REALLY ? I saw a lot of cheering from rider fans when marino was walking off the field, and don't recall booing.
I'm sure you would like the fans and Blue Bombers to move on from this and sweep it under the carpet, but I guarantee that this won't be forgotten on Saturday.
Quote from: Ridermania on September 05, 2023, 03:33:06 PM
He deserved a one game suspension and I am glad the CFL did this swiftly.
Story is now over and should not be a distraction for the Banjo Bowl.....let's move on.
No, we did not whine about the Marino incident last year, we all booed as he left the field.
You probably shouldn't try and speak for an entire fanbase.
Our Bomber boarder told me this morning that it's a cheap stupid play that we as players don't need in our game. He said, if you want to headbutt someone in celebration , headbutt one of your own players. Said if that was one of our players, Coach O sits you for the next game regardless of what the CFL says.
He also said that late in the 4th quarter, the Ref, missed a face masking call on BO20.
Quote from: Pigskin on September 05, 2023, 04:51:40 PM
Our Bomber boarder told me this morning that it's a cheap stupid play that we as players don't need in our game. He said, if you want to headbutt someone in celebration , headbutt one of your own players. Said if that was one of our players, Coach O sits you for the next game regardless of what the CFL says.
He also said that late in the 4th quarter, the Ref, missed a face masking call on BO20.
They did miss a clear facemask...that crew is NOT very good - this is the first time they have missed some blatant penalties.
I saw a new ref in the Calgary game last night (I stopped sulking and watched the last few minutes). Didn't catch his name.
Quote from: Pigskin on September 05, 2023, 04:51:40 PM
Our Bomber boarder told me this morning that it's a cheap stupid play that we as players don't need in our game. He said, if you want to headbutt someone in celebration , headbutt one of your own players. Said if that was one of our players, Coach O sits you for the next game regardless of what the CFL says.
He also said that late in the 4th quarter, the Ref, missed a face masking call on BO20.
Yes but ..rider fans say we have the refs and CFL in our back pockets. So how can that be ?
The worst of it all, the refs didn't throw the flag in the first place, and he didn't get removed from the game. Who has who in their back pocket ??
It took the CC to make the obvious call the refs appeared to ignore. The bigger issue is?it also appears the CC did not see the play in the same way the league does. SMH! But ya the Canadian mafia has the league at gunpoint. Again SMH!
The non-football play ranks right up there as dumb as you will see. Robertson deserved a 25 yd penalty and disqualification for his brainless hit & post hit flex and a 1-2 game suspension to prevent this type of brainless action from ever happening again. A final SMH!
Quote from: wpg#1 on September 05, 2023, 04:58:58 PM
Yes but ..rider fans say we have the refs and CFL in our back pockets. So how can that be ?
The worst of it all, the refs didn't throw the flag in the first place, and he didn't get removed from the game. Who has who in their back pocket ??
But, does anyone really care what the Rider fans think or say????
Time to move on, its over he is suspended, hopefully will not appeal it. He is a very good player that will not be on the field for them, it hurts them, it makes them weaker, they also lost their starting RT to what looked like a bad injury....They are down a couple key pieces, we are as healthy as we have been all season, and we should be playing extra PO'd....forget it flush it, maybe stick it in your back pocket for a future game for some extra motivation and go work on improving the special teams play, so we can take the victory right back from them!
Quote from: Pigskin on September 05, 2023, 07:33:21 PM
But, does anyone really care what the Rider fans think or say????
yes, true. I really should just ignore it.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 05, 2023, 04:54:37 PM
I saw a new ref in the Calgary game last night (I stopped sulking and watched the last few minutes). Didn't catch his name.
Referee Tim Kroeker left late in the first half with an injury. Umpire Troy Semenchuk took over.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on September 05, 2023, 07:52:08 PM
Referee Tim Kroeker left late in the first half with an injury. Umpire Troy Semenchuk took over.
You don't see that very often.
I guess the CFL will announce a Robertson fine as usual on Wednesday? Surely he doesn't get off with just a suspension.
Have they issued any statement on why he was not ejected?
What's the word on the street re: an appeal?
Quote from: wpg#1 on September 05, 2023, 04:58:58 PM
Yes but ..rider fans say we have the refs and CFL in our back pockets. So how can that be ?
The worst of it all, the refs didn't throw the flag in the first place, and he didn't get removed from the game. Who has who in their back pocket ??
They?re just spewing the same crap their coach is saying-it wasn?t Robertson s fault he committed the foul we drew the foul.dickenson should be fined for saying such bunk
Quote from: Nic16 on September 05, 2023, 06:19:41 PM
It took the CC to make the obvious call the refs appeared to ignore. The bigger issue is?it also appears the CC did not see the play in the same way the league does. SMH! But ya the Canadian mafia has the league at gunpoint. Again SMH!
The non-football play ranks right up there as dumb as you will see. Robertson deserved a 25 yd penalty and disqualification for his brainless hit & post hit flex and a 1-2 game suspension to prevent this type of brainless action from ever happening again. A final SMH!
I agree. The headbutt deserved a game, but so did the celebration, absolutely no remorse on his part whatsoever. Shoulda got 2 games minimum
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 05, 2023, 10:16:00 PM
I guess the CFL will announce a Robertson fine as usual on Wednesday? Surely he doesn't get off with just a suspension.
Have they issued any statement on why he was not ejected?
What's the word on the street re: an appeal?
No appeal as per CD. he said he would have sat Robertson if he saw it.
Quote from: 3rdand1.5 on September 05, 2023, 07:40:16 PM
Time to move on, its over he is suspended, hopefully will not appeal it. He is a very good player that will not be on the field for them, it hurts them, it makes them weaker, they also lost their starting RT to what looked like a bad injury....They are down a couple key pieces, we are as healthy as we have been all season, and we should be playing extra PO'd....forget it flush it, maybe stick it in your back pocket for a future game for some extra motivation and go work on improving the special teams play, so we can take the victory right back from them!
fine advice
Quote from: The Zipp on September 05, 2023, 11:59:35 PM
No appeal as per CD. he said he would have sat Robertson if he saw it.
Dickie is always backtracking on his statements, he seldom says the right thing first time around.
There is reason to be concerned over officiating of games. Not that I put the onus on the on-field officials but rather the problematic decisions by a combination of on-field and Command Centre. On-field officials must make a decision based on the what they see in real time. Mistakes can be expected. The Command Centre has the benefit of observing the penalty over a period of time and with several camera angles and still seem to make mistakes particularly on PI and UR calls. Most often they are right in the decisions but some can be wrong and and often game-changing. The two point overtime TD conversion is a good example. On the other hand, the fact the CC caught the head butt when the on-field officials did not is encouraging.
Maybe that is the nature of the game. Humans can and do make mistakes but it does leave fans both happy and frustrated.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 06, 2023, 02:56:02 AM
Dickie is always backtracking on his statements, he seldom says the right thing first time around.
Because he's spineless and inept.
Robertson should have been ejected from the game. Headbutting has no place in the game no matter. This sends a poor message to other players that it's okay cause you will just get a game suspension. Would have been great to see the Bombers win the game. The BB defence, special teams and offence gotta step up.
Quote from: kronic on September 04, 2023, 07:37:37 PM
He WAS suspended for one game. I?m not even gonna respond to the rest of your post ::)
I know how to respond to him/her... just tell h/h to foff and head back the Rider Forum with all the other losers on there (not that all of them are).
Quote from: bugsybomber on September 04, 2023, 07:33:10 PM
I don't think there will be a suspension, just a fine. Collarus was not injured and if it was up to him, he would not have missed a play. I think that the inner soccer player came out in him and he saw the chance to draw a penalty which was smart on his part. I see players do those headbuts all the time in post touchdown celebration, I that if it is enough to cause head injury, you should not be playing football ::)
Okay troll, you?ve had your dozen posts, now head back over to Riderville and continue to try and figure out what follows 4.
I can't wait to see how these two team respond tomorrow. It's almost better that we didn't win last week. The sting of losing that one might provide some extra motivation that might not have been there otherwise. I'm anticipating a severe beatdown by the blue and gold.
both teams have been very careful to say the right things
Collaris in stating that Roberson is not a dirty player, and he doesn't want anyone to lose a paycheck
Roberson in admitting it was a dumb thing to do and not appealing
Coach Oshea in stating that all he really wants is clarity on what the rtp is and ingame ejections
Usually these things don't carry over and it becomes much more hype than reality
Quote from: Pete on September 08, 2023, 07:31:59 PM
both teams have been very careful to say the right things
Collaris in stating that Roberson is not a dirty player, and he doesn't want anyone to lose a paycheck
Roberson in admitting it was a dumb thing to do and not appealing
Coach Oshea in stating that all he really wants is clarity on what the rtp is and ingame ejections
Usually these things don't carry over and it becomes much more hype than reality
CFL did the right thing in getting it sorted immediately and the riders not dragging it out on an appeal. The game will be hard hitting though.
Oh, there ll be carry over. You don?t headbutt our MOP and then come into our barn and expect everybody is going to forget it happened. We saw a fight 2 years ago over less than that, bank on something happening