game delay in NY.....grrrrrrrrrrr >:(
Quote from: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 04:43:37 PM
not funny!
it sure as he'll is!
Look outside we are aloud to laugh all we bloody want fruity!
Wow....Game should be canceled due to Jerseys super ugly unies.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2014, 05:10:04 PM
Wow....Game should be canceled due to Jerseys super ugly unies.
there retro.....Lou doesnt believe in designing a dozen different uniforms like most NHL teams
wanna see really ugly unis, see the Ducks from last night
Quote from: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 05:11:26 PM
there retro.....Lou doesnt believe in designing a dozen different uniforms like most NHL teams
wanna see really ugly unis, see the Ducks from last night
Ya they were bad to. Retro or not...they are some kinda ugly.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2014, 05:13:59 PM
Ya they were bad to. Retro or not...they are some kinda ugly.
meh...there not that bad...just green instead of black
I actually had to stop watching the LA/Ducks game because the uni's bothered me so much. Almost reminded me of Rollerball ( the newer one). Yeuch.
Watched Buff's goal again, Phaneuf's wicked two hander, breaking his stick over Buff's hands as he shot, just terrible. Buss got him to commit wide, and when he couldn't cover Buff as he cut back in, he wound up and gave a nasty axe chop. If he hand't busted his stick, I might not have noticed, but man...
Quote from: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 05:20:25 PM
meh...there not that bad...just green instead of black
LOL
Im going to guess that they changed the green to black because the green and red together is horrible.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2014, 05:28:37 PM
LOL
Im going to guess that they changed the green to black because the green and red together is horrible.
christmas!!
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2014, 05:43:59 PM
haha They just need a lil tinsel.
the silver from all of there stanley cup rings is the tinsel :P
Jagr is still magic
Quote from: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 05:57:43 PM
the silver from all of there stanley cup rings is the tinsel :P
How many players are still on the team that got rings? ;D
Quote from: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
Jagr is still magic
Yup..... What really surprises me more then anything about him is how long hes been playing at a pretty high level. I never expected him to be a guy to play this long for some reason.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2014, 06:11:58 PM
Yup..... What really surprises me more then anything about him is how long hes been playing at a pretty high level. I never expected him to be a guy to play this long for some reason.
his play has not dropped off much....hes really strong on the puck...crazy because he also spent 3 seasons in the KHL lol
wasnt expecting so many goals
Quote from: AngryGreg on January 26, 2014, 05:20:25 PM
meh...there not that bad...just green instead of black
i remember them being cooler there not there just plain ugly.
mean while tis is a jets thread not a bloody NYR NJD thread!!!!
Its hockey...deal with it
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=442477
well that solves that problem
in a few years they will change their names to the seattle coyotes tho :P
Lol at the tweet from the sabres official twitter account :
Game's over. If you want to know the final score, you can find it on the Internet somewhere. #Sabres
Quote from: The Zipp on February 01, 2014, 10:03:07 PM
Lol at the tweet from the sabres official twitter account :
Game's over. If you want to know the final score, you can find it on the Internet somewhere. #Sabres
LOL. 7-1 colorado. Atleast the buffalo twitter guys have a sense of humor.
Quote from: The Zipp on February 01, 2014, 10:03:07 PM
Lol at the tweet from the sabres official twitter account :
Game's over. If you want to know the final score, you can find it on the Internet somewhere. #Sabres
haha
We hope the name 'Arizona' will encourage more fans from all over the state, not just the valley, to embrace and support our team
this is such stupid thinking
Quote from: AngryGreg on February 02, 2014, 02:05:06 PM
We hope the name 'Arizona' will encourage more fans from all over the state, not just the valley, to embrace and support our team
this is such stupid thinking
Isn't that type of thinking the reason our AHL team was the Manitoba Moose and the Jets were almost called Manitoba.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on February 02, 2014, 03:03:55 PM
Isn't that type of thinking the reason our AHL team was the Manitoba Moose and the Jets were almost called Manitoba.
I doubt the Jets were ever going to be called Manitoba.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on February 02, 2014, 03:03:55 PM
Isn't that type of thinking the reason our AHL team was the Manitoba Moose and the Jets were almost called Manitoba.
ya....and its stupid thinking
Quote from: AngryGreg on February 02, 2014, 03:39:24 PM
ya....and its stupid thinking
Im not so sure its stupid thinking. Why do you think its stupid?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 02, 2014, 03:45:20 PM
Im not so sure its stupid thinking. Why do you think its stupid?
to think that some person, 200 or 300 miles away from glendale is now going to run out and buy a Coyotes jersey because they changed the name from Phoenix to Arizona just doesnt seem like reasonable thinking to me....
do you think someone in Thompson is refusing to support the jets because there called Winnipeg instead of Manitoba?
Quote from: AngryGreg on February 02, 2014, 03:50:56 PM
to think that some person, 200 or 300 miles away from glendale is now going to run out and buy a Coyotes jersey because they changed the name from Phoenix to Arizona just doesnt seem like reasonable thinking to me....
do you think someone in Thompson is refusing to support the jets because there called Winnipeg instead of Manitoba?
Fair enuff.
I cant compare it to up here because i think it a whole different thing. People here are nuts over hockey so they will buy whatever and come from wherever to watch.
Will people come from all over to watch the yotes ... i really have no idea.. but i wouldnt call it stupid thinking on their part.
They are trying to do whatever they can to get fans... so i cant call it stupid thinking.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 02, 2014, 03:58:28 PM
Fair enuff.
I cant compare it to up here because i think it a whole different thing. People here are nuts over hockey so they will buy whatever and come from wherever to watch.
Will people come from all over to watch the yotes ... i really have no idea.. but i wouldnt call it stupid thinking on their part.
They are trying to do whatever they can to get fans... so i cant call it stupid thinking.
moving a hockey team out of a desert is the smartest thing they can do
Quote from: AngryGreg on February 02, 2014, 04:19:32 PM
moving a hockey team out of a desert is the smartest thing they can do
Now that i can agree with.
Quote from: AngryGreg on February 02, 2014, 02:05:06 PM
We hope the name 'Arizona' will encourage more fans from all over the state, not just the valley, to embrace and support our team
this is such stupid thinking
I agree. That doesn't seem like a sound business plan at all. The Coyotes have struggled to attract fans since they moved to Phoenix. Changing a name won't suddenly fix that problem. There is simply not a viable market for hockey in the desert.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 02, 2014, 08:32:14 PM
I agree. That doesn't seem like a sound business plan at all. The Coyotes have struggled to attract fans since they moved to Phoenix. Changing a name won't suddenly fix that problem. There is simply not a viable market for hockey in the desert.
I agree, the name is irrelevant, if people dont care, then people dont care.
and in arizona, people dont go there to watch hockey, they go there to get away from hockey really and to play golf.
Its just not a good market, to be honest, if it was, well... someone would have made 5 cents off of it by now and also.
This is a way for that group to tell the NHL they tried everything they could, even changed the name and still cant make a nickle. That team is so moving in a couple seasons, seattle get ready, they are coming your way soon.
people can talk quebec all they want or toronto... not happening, if those places happen it will be VIA expansion for sure... cuz thats big big money for the owners and the players would get none of it.
Quote from: theedge204 on February 04, 2014, 08:08:55 AM
I agree, the name is irrelevant, if people dont care, then people dont care.
and in arizona, people dont go there to watch hockey, they go there to get away from hockey really and to play golf.
Its just not a good market, to be honest, if it was, well... someone would have made 5 cents off of it by now and also.
This is a way for that group to tell the NHL they tried everything they could, even changed the name and still cant make a nickle. That team is so moving in a couple seasons, seattle get ready, they are coming your way soon.
people can talk quebec all they want or toronto... not happening, if those places happen it will be VIA expansion for sure... cuz thats big big money for the owners and the players would get none of it.
I sure hope there is no expansion before they get the teams they have now that are struggling on more solid ground. There are a few teams that need to be moved first and then they can think of expanding.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 04, 2014, 01:38:41 PM
I sure hope there is no expansion before they get the teams they have now that are struggling on more solid ground. There are a few teams that need to be moved first and then they can think of expanding.
phoenix and floria definitely come to mind.
florida is already in the montreal toronto ottawa division so one would think that maybe if a team was to move to quebec/souther ontario that florida would be the no brainer.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=443206
wow. Thats some crazy scary stuff. Best of luck to Kris Letang.
Quote from: theedge204 on February 07, 2014, 06:11:46 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=443206
wow. Thats some crazy scary stuff. Best of luck to Kris Letang.
That is beyond scary. ****... :-[
Wishing him a speedy recovery.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 07, 2014, 06:30:11 PM
That is beyond scary. ****... :-[
Wishing him a speedy recovery.
Guess things like this just proves it can happen to anyone. elite athletes in great condition and young people at that too.
From TSN:
Ryan Miller and Steve Ott have been traded to the St. Louis Blues in exchange for Jaroslav Halak, Chris Stewart, William Carrier, a first-round draft pick in 2015 and a third-round draft pick in 2016.
Rest of story at this link: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444922 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444922)
Also from TSN, because of the trade:
Ryan Vinz is playing backup. Ryan Vinz is paid to be the Director of Technology.
Ryan Vinz is living the dream...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1656070_10152424691661055_834882102_n.jpg)
Wouldn't be pleasant to be traded from St. Louis to buffalo. I think the Blues will go deep in the playoffs...the sabres - not so much, golf course for them...
Quote from: The Zipp on March 01, 2014, 02:02:29 AM
Wouldn't be pleasant to be traded from St. Louis to buffalo. I think the Blues will go deep in the playoffs...the sabres - not so much, golf course for them...
What's bad about golf? I just got a new mashie and niblick.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 01, 2014, 06:04:37 AM
What's bad about golf? I just got a new mashie and niblick.
This is whats bad about golf
Martin Brodeur stepped into the visitors' locker room at the Coliseum on Friday afternoon and, if it's too much to call his mood somber, he was certainly grimly realistic about the fact Saturday afternoon might his final game as a Devil.
With his name being thrown around in trade talks, the sure-to-be Hall of Fame goal-tender understands the only NHL franchise he has ever known over his 20-year-career is in a position to improve itself by moving him before Wednesday's 3 p.m. trade deadline.
http://nypost.com/2014/02/28/as-trade-rumors-swirl-saturday-could-be-martys-last-devils-start/
Quote from: galeforce on March 01, 2014, 12:36:30 PM
Martin Brodeur stepped into the visitors' locker room at the Coliseum on Friday afternoon and, if it's too much to call his mood somber, he was certainly grimly realistic about the fact Saturday afternoon might his final game as a Devil.
With his name being thrown around in trade talks, the sure-to-be Hall of Fame goal-tender understands the only NHL franchise he has ever known over his 20-year-career is in a position to improve itself by moving him before Wednesday's 3 p.m. trade deadline.
http://nypost.com/2014/02/28/as-trade-rumors-swirl-saturday-could-be-martys-last-devils-start/
:'( :'( :'(
Quote from: galeforce on March 01, 2014, 12:36:30 PM
Martin Brodeur stepped into the visitors' locker room at the Coliseum on Friday afternoon and, if it's too much to call his mood somber, he was certainly grimly realistic about the fact Saturday afternoon might his final game as a Devil.
With his name being thrown around in trade talks, the sure-to-be Hall of Fame goal-tender understands the only NHL franchise he has ever known over his 20-year-career is in a position to improve itself by moving him before Wednesday's 3 p.m. trade deadline.
http://nypost.com/2014/02/28/as-trade-rumors-swirl-saturday-could-be-martys-last-devils-start/
That's crazy... I expected him to retire as a Devil.
He will retire a devil one way or another. He will sign a one day contract if he is traded and retire in the off season.
he probably wont be traded.....or retire
no one other than the Angry one really cares.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 02, 2014, 04:11:01 PM
no one other than the Angry one really cares.
not entirely true
Rumors a swirling lol
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 05:27:46 PM
Rumors a swirling lol
I've read Brodeur to Minny is basically done, they're just letting him play one last home game in Jersey.
I don't really understand why he would leave. He's not going to be the starter in Minny and they're certainly not a Cup contender. He could be one of the few stars who stayed with one team for his entire career. Now his career will end as a backup on a different team after being traded for, presumably, not much of anything.
edit: Never mind, Bryz just got traded to the Wild...
Quote from: sweep the leg on March 04, 2014, 06:03:33 PM
I've read Brodeur to Minny is basically done, they're just letting him play one last home game in Jersey.
I don't really understand why he would leave. He's not going to be the starter in Minny and they're certainly not a Cup contender. He could be one of the few stars who stayed with one team for his entire career. Now his career will end as a backup on a different team after being traded for, presumably, not much of anything.
edit: Never mind, Bryz just got traded to the Wild...
HE might start for them tho, harding is out with ms complications, backstrom aint that great, keumper is a rookie really. Its a good depth move plus his son plays hockey in minnesota, means marty is close to his kid. Doesnt mean much cuz he will retire after but, Minnesota has a good team, i wouldnt completely count them out.
mike weaver, 5'9 d man to montreal for 5th round pic
robidas(from dallas) will go to anaheim soon (another d man)
dustin penner has been traded to washington
Jets wont do a thing.
scratch those brodeur to minny rumors
edmonton sent bryzgalov to minny for a 4th rd pick in 2014 and then traded for fasth from anaheim for a 5th rd pick in 2014 and a 3rd rd pick in 2015
Edmonton now has fasth and scrivens in net.
Bryz is a member of the wild.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=445235
Holy trades, Batman!
Luongo back the Panthers... Crazy.
markstrom is one of the pieces head to the canucks, rumor is mathias might be the other.
More stuff going on then i thought.
Penner moving kinda shocked me.
What the hell are Hustler and Lawless talking about with Tyler Kennedy, Adam Burish, and some Sheppard guy?
Did the Jets make a trade? I missed half there discussion.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2014, 09:18:22 PM
What the hell are Hustler and Lawless talking about with Tyler Kennedy, Adam Burish, and some Sheppard guy?
Did the Jets make a trade? I missed half there discussion.
nope, dont think so.
H and L tend to talk about a lot of things that dont make sense.
Rumor is setogucci to san jose tho. Those guys listed are all florida players, perhaps they were speculating on who was going to vancouver b4 it was confirmed to be markstrom and shawn matthias.
Quote from: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 09:20:04 PM
nope, dont think so.
H and L tend to talk about a lot of things that dont make sense.
Rumor is setogucci to san jose tho. Those guys listed are all florida players, perhaps they were speculating on who was going to vancouver b4 it was confirmed to be markstrom and shawn matthias.
RIIIGHT!
wrong.
those guys are all members of the san jose sharks
probably speculating on what they will get back from san jose in return for setogucci.
Tells you, he aint worth much.
Quote from: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 09:31:14 PM
wrong.
those guys are all members of the san jose sharks
probably speculating on what they will get back from san jose in return for setogucci.
Tells you, he aint worth much.
i was sarcastic there dude! ???
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2014, 09:01:57 PM
More stuff going on then i thought.
Penner moving kinda shocked me.
shocked you eh? Bloody why? I mean who really gives a rip bout the guy. Dude can't stick with a team something sure as hell is flaky about the guy. Like maybe he's a lazy sack of ****.
Today is national pancake day in the states, there is some irony to penner being moved on national pancake day.
If you dont know what im talking about, google it.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2014, 10:11:03 PM
shocked you eh? Bloody why? I mean who really gives a rip bout the guy. Dude can't stick with a team something sure as hell is flaky about the guy. Like maybe he's a lazy sack of ****.
is that sarcasm again?
the shocking trade is luongo to florida for markstrom and matthias, i say its shocking cuz i never saw it coming, Lou wasnt mentioned in any trade rumors this season, not as much atleast. Florida and Van were talking since sunday too.
Im shocked the canucks got anything back for him, i know people on twitter and that are ripping the canucks but to get markstrom and matthias (sure not proven but id take matthias as our 3rd line center and markstrom still has potential to be a very good goalie, was just named AHL goalie of the month)
in return for a guy who really only wanted to go to one place and one place only (florida), thats a good move.
Canucks are rebuilding now, that core much didnt get it done so now its time they get younger and cheaper.
I will laugh tho tomorrow when gillis panics tho and trades kesler to florida for luongo :P
Actually, kesler will go to philly or pitt.
i think it will be pretty slow for the most part....there are a ton of good players that are going to be FA's this summer....
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:23:36 PM
i think it will be pretty slow for the most part....there are a ton of good players that are going to be FA's this summer....
its gonna be slow cuz all the moves are being done today.
Theres probably been 10 trades today
bryz to minny
fasth to edmonton
lou to florida
nyi traded mcdonald to philly
ana traded penner to wash
im missing a couple others.
Quote from: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 10:23:06 PM
the shocking trade is luongo to florida for markstrom and matthias, i say its shocking cuz i never saw it coming, Lou wasnt mentioned in any trade rumors this season, not as much atleast. Florida and Van were talking since sunday too.
Im shocked the canucks got anything back for him, i know people on twitter and that are ripping the canucks but to get markstrom and matthias (sure not proven but id take matthias as our 3rd line center and markstrom still has potential to be a very good goalie, was just named AHL goalie of the month)
in return for a guy who really only wanted to go to one place and one place only (florida), thats a good move.
Canucks are rebuilding now, that core much didnt get it done so now its time they get younger and cheaper.
I will laugh tho tomorrow when gillis panics tho and trades kesler to florida for luongo :P
Actually, kesler will go to philly or pitt.
the main part of that trade is that Vancouver is picking up part of luongo's salary...thats the only way they could move him
Quote from: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 10:23:06 PM
the shocking trade is luongo to florida for markstrom and matthias, i say its shocking cuz i never saw it coming, Lou wasnt mentioned in any trade rumors this season, not as much atleast. Florida and Van were talking since sunday too.
Im shocked the canucks got anything back for him, i know people on twitter and that are ripping the canucks but to get markstrom and matthias (sure not proven but id take matthias as our 3rd line center and markstrom still has potential to be a very good goalie, was just named AHL goalie of the month)
in return for a guy who really only wanted to go to one place and one place only (florida), thats a good move.
Canucks are rebuilding now, that core much didnt get it done so now its time they get younger and cheaper.
I will laugh tho tomorrow when gillis panics tho and trades kesler to florida for luongo :P
Actually, kesler will go to philly or pitt.
Really?
Quote from: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 10:24:32 PM
its gonna be slow cuz all the moves are being done today.
Theres probably been 10 trades today
bryz to minny
fasth to edmonton
lou to florida
nyi traded mcdonald to philly
ana traded penner to wash
im missing a couple others.
ya....only 2 major trades in that group.
there will be plenty of roles players traded for draft picks, but i dont see any blockbusters happening
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:24:57 PM
the main part of that trade is that Vancouver is picking up part of luongo's salary...thats the only way they could move him
15 percent isnt that bad to be taking back.
the main part is matthias and markstrom tho, 2 good young (not so young but young enough) for a guy who only wanted to go to florida.
Lou vetod trades last year and the year b4 cuz he didnt want to go anywhere but florida, to get anything in return for him is huge, so they pick up 15 percent of his contract, works out to about 1 million a year roughly they say, thats not a big deal.
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:26:19 PM
ya....only 2 major trades in that group.
there will be plenty of roles players traded for draft picks, but i dont see any blockbusters happening
blockbusters never happen on trade deadline day.
Im not expecting one thats for sure
kesler tho to philly or pitt will be a blockbuster trade
Quote from: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 10:26:43 PM
15 percent isnt that bad to be taking back.
the main part is matthias and markstrom tho, 2 good young (not so young but young enough) for a guy who only wanted to go to florida.
Lou vetod trades last year and the year b4 cuz he didnt want to go anywhere but florida, to get anything in return for him is huge, so they pick up 15 percent of his contract, works out to about 1 million a year roughly they say, thats not a big deal.
it is in terms of a cap hit...there is no way he is moved without that aspect of the trade
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:26:19 PM
ya....only 2 major trades in that group.
there will be plenty of roles players traded for draft picks, but i dont see any blockbusters happening
There was some pretty big moves made id say.
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
it is in terms of a cap hit...there is no way he is moved without that aspect of the trade
well no kidding but the fact they got 2 players in return is pretty decent, regardless of cap hits or whatever percentage they have to retain in lou's salary.
Its moving a guy who didnt want to be in vancouver for 2 guys who probably dont mind the change of scenery from florida.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2014, 10:26:11 PM
Really?
you'll have to expand on that actually cuz "really" what?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2014, 10:28:27 PM
There was some pretty big moves made id say.
3 goalies made up all the major trades.....all the players are just role guys.....nothing really substantial
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 10:29:35 PM
3 goalies made up all the major trades.....all the players are just role guys.....nothing really substantial
what do you expect? like crosby to be traded? its trade deadline not the summer.
Those are huge moves for a trade deadline day
trade deadline is normally about trading picks for rentals.
ah well...im just glad Lou got traded, i am sick of hearing about him....he can play out his last years in Florida and dissapear
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2014, 10:48:31 PM
Hes on the edge bro.
Anyway... Some of them role players may have an impact on what goes on with the rest. Ducks seem to be saying they are not players in a Cup this year so are moving on... Thats more less what im getting at as big moves. Some buy some sell im not saying just the buyers... sellers to.
ducks are not players in a Cup?
Vanek is not dressing tonight against the Jets....hope he gets traded to the Devils haha
although its rare for a #1 team to win a cup....the Ducks are very much in play to win it....im not following this at all
apparently the Ducks are not interested in Vanek, but are looking at Kesler
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 11:05:00 PM
apparently the Ducks are not interested in Vanek, but are looking at Kesler
We will see.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2014, 11:18:00 PM
We will see.
even if they dont make another move...they are HUGE favs to win the cup :P
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 11:05:00 PM
apparently the Ducks are not interested in Vanek, but are looking at Kesler
Vancouver wont trade kesler to a divisonal rival, he's off to philly or pitt.
Anaheim cleared cap space and will get vanek or moulson or even gaborik
LA will get who anaheim doesnt, moulson is quicks brother in law so there a connection.
Quote from: theedge204 on March 04, 2014, 11:25:14 PM
Vancouver wont trade kesler to a divisonal rival, he's off to philly or pitt.
i dont even know if Vancouver would care at this point...if they trade Kesler and Edler after all ready trading Lou, they are officially in rebuild mode...plus there coach sucks
i wouldnt change anything if i was the Ducks
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2014, 11:23:41 PM
even if they dont make another move...they are HUGE favs to win the cup :P
We will see.
I dont think so.
Eh it be good if they did.. i wouldnt be mad. or angry.
But id think its a long shot they do,
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2014, 12:53:27 AM
We will see.
I dont think so.
Eh it be good if they did.. i wouldnt be mad. or angry.
But id think its a long shot they do,
why is that? because they've dominated the regular season?
ducks choked the last time in the playoffs too.
Something about that team it seems. I dunno.
Might be someone weird winning, Colorado, St Louis maybe.
Think the winner comes from the west for sure.
If im the jets, who do i want in the first round? St Louis? nah, Chicago? no thanks, Anaheim? sounds good to me.
Just saying but be nice to send teemu into retirement by eliminating anaheim Game 6 in Winnipeg. :P If not tho, I hope the Ducks do win and get Teemu his stanley cup so he can retire (i know he has won b4), just saying, Teemu is a guy who deserves to go out a winner, Or in winnipeg game 6 vs the Ducks :P
Lightning made out pretty good moving St Louis
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 05, 2014, 04:39:09 PM
Lightning made out pretty good moving St Louis
Yeah, when I first saw I thought it was for Callahan straight up, but when you throw in those picks, they did very well.
What is NYR trying to pull? St. Louis is old while Callahan still has lots in the tank and if those picks turn out, TB has really serviced their future. NY, not so much.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 05, 2014, 04:52:55 PM
Yeah, when I first saw I thought it was for Callahan straight up, but when you throw in those picks, they did very well.
What is NYR trying to pull? St. Louis is old while Callahan still has lots in the tank and if those picks turn out, TB has really serviced their future. NY, not so much.
Rangers always do odd things.
LOL i dont like them or Marty.
And Callahan is an FA...he could walk
Gaborik confirmed a King
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 05, 2014, 05:21:23 PM
Gaborik confirmed a King
Not sure if he adds anything to the Kings.
Whats Jersey thinkin? Ruutu?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2014, 05:56:21 PM
Whats Jersey thinkin? Ruutu?
don't know...guess he just wanted to make a move lol....I expect the devils to be very busy in the summer
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 05, 2014, 08:34:33 PM
don't know...guess he just wanted to make a move lol....I expect the devils to be very busy in the summer
I havent watched lots of their games but the one thing you notice right away is they are slow and Ruutu is like super slow like almost going backwards kinda slow.
I actually thought Lou would pull something out his arse and land Vanik or Kessel
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2014, 08:53:19 PM
I actually thought Lou would pull something out his arse and land Vanik or Kessel
they have nothing to trade.....except for a few young dmen and a couple of forward prospects....
and enough about St. Louis upset with Yzerman for `snubbing`him for Team Canada.......dont know how true it is...but if he is so upset about that then Tampa did the right thing...who wants a whiny almost 40 year old in there dressing room? cry me a river already you pipsqueak baby
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 05, 2014, 09:42:11 PM
and enough about St. Louis upset with Yzerman for `snubbing`him for Team Canada.......dont know how true it is...but if he is so upset about that then Tampa did the right thing...who wants a whiny almost 40 year old in there dressing room? cry me a river already you pipsqueak baby
LOL your a fan of his to i see.
I never liked him for some reason. Now i have one.
Wish we could take his gold away. Should be a no whining policy.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 05, 2014, 09:49:19 PM
LOL your a fan of his to i see.
I never liked him for some reason. Now i have one.
Wish we could take his gold away. Should be a no whining policy.
i never really had much opinion of him before....hes a good hockey player....but this whole whining thing is ridiculous....daddy Steve had to bring him to Russia so he could basically sit on the bench anyways, probably just to stop him from crying....i would love if they took his golden soother away!
St. Louis put a big stain on his legacy in TB by leaving the way he did. I'm glad Yzerman was at least able to get a good return for him.
I hated the Rangers before, but now I really want to see them fail.
The prices for rentals this year was way lower than last season and I'm not sure why. Vanek & Moulson were grabbed without having to give up much in return. Last year Douglas frikkin Murray cost a 2nd round pick.
I *am* a fan of St. Louis and this is hard to watch happen. Really too bad it has to happen this way. Guy got an Olympic gold medal and could have retired on top in TB. Instead he looked like the most unhappy gold medalist I've ever seen (makes the anti-NHL-players-in-Olympics crowd seem super correct) and also a whiner, ending up from the leader of a contender, to a team destined to spiral downward. Waste of a legacy :(
Quote from: sweep the leg on March 05, 2014, 10:07:59 PM
The prices for rentals this year was way lower than last season and I'm not sure why. Vanek & Moulson were grabbed without having to give up much in return. Last year Douglas frikkin Murray cost a 2nd round pick.
alot of FA's....these guys will come free in a few months
Vanek to Habs sure is interesting.
Kesler to Pens, meh they still have no D.
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 05, 2014, 10:20:03 PM
alot of FA's....these guys will come free in a few months
Yup
Who should the Jets target in the UFAs?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 05, 2014, 11:12:30 PM
Who should the Jets target in the UFAs?
I dont really think we will. My guess is we try to get Paul M signed up and we will continue on our path of building thru the draft and bringing players up.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 05, 2014, 11:09:47 PM
Kesler to Pens, meh they still have no D.
Kesler is still a Canuck
tons to choose from this summer.....http://www.capgeek.com/free-agents
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 06, 2014, 12:23:53 AM
tons to choose from this summer.....http://www.capgeek.com/free-agents
Some teams are gonna spend
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 06, 2014, 12:33:40 AM
Some teams are gonna spend
ya...im hoping the Devils go after at least 2 forwards
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 06, 2014, 12:45:36 AM
ya...im hoping the Devils go after at least 2 forwards
Who would u like to see?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 06, 2014, 12:51:20 AM
Who would u like to see?
wish list
Cammalleri @ 5mil
Stastny @ 6mil
Roy @ 4mil
even Heatly...but he would have to come cheap....like 3-4mil tops
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 06, 2014, 01:09:00 AM
wish list
Cammalleri @ 5mil
Stastny @ 6mil
Roy @ 4mil
even Heatly...but he would have to come cheap....like 3-4mil tops
Good fit i would think
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 06, 2014, 12:23:53 AM
tons to choose from this summer.....http://www.capgeek.com/free-agents
Thanks Gregory. Quite a good list. Normally I would agree with NEM on being quiet in the summer but there are a lot of very tempting names to boost us. I wouldn't want to build our 2014/2015 roster with a bunch of UFAs, but one high impact one would be great, even if we had to pay a little more.
How much does joker sign for? New cap number is going to make this a sellers market, UFA will get rewarded this year.
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 06, 2014, 01:09:00 AM
wish list
Cammalleri @ 5mil
even Heatly...but he would have to come cheap....like 3-4mil tops
Speaking as a Pens fan, I'd love to see the Devils make these signings at those prices. Heatley is nearly finished. All he would do is make the devils even slower. Cammalleri hasn't been very good for a few seasons now. He's still a useful player, but I'd never give him $5M.
I agree that Stastny would be a good signing though. You'd finally have a #1 centre. He and Henrique would be a decent 1-2 punch at C, as Henrique looks like he's finally back on track with what he showed in his rookie season.
I think their trade for Rutuu was terrible. He's just ok when healthy, which isn't very often. Plus he has a hefty contract with a few years left on it.
Ruuto is not great lol...but the Canes take 20 percent of his contract and at least the cap is going up next year.....happy to hear the stupid NHL gave us our 1st round pick back from the kovalchuk fiasco...albeit its a 30 th pick lol
QuoteNEWARK, N.J. -- The NHL reduced its penalty against the New Jersey Devils on Thursday for signing Ilya Kovalchuk in 2010.
The Devils will keep the first-round draft pick they were scheduled to forfeit this year, and the league will reduce the $3 million fine assessed against the team for circumventing the NHL-NHLPA collective bargaining agreement
The Devils recently applied to the league for reconsideration and relief from a portion of the original penalty, citing primarily changes in circumstances which, in the club's view, changed the appropriateness of the sanctions.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=445439
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 07, 2014, 12:44:31 AM
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=445439
Bush league. They hand out an arbitrary penalty and then arbitrarily change it. It was strange that they picked only the Devils to punish for a cap circumventing contract, but it's also strange that they change their mind once it becomes time to enforce the strongest parts on the punishment.
Quote from: sweep the leg on March 07, 2014, 12:22:57 PM
Bush league. They hand out an arbitrary penalty and then arbitrarily change it. It was strange that they picked only the Devils to punish for a cap circumventing contract, but it's also strange that they change their mind once it becomes time to enforce the strongest parts on the punishment.
I heard Lou sent his henchmen after Bettman. You know bust his balls a little.
That's how they do things in jersey
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 07, 2014, 03:24:45 PM
That's how they do things in jersey
I guess you would know??. I guess here in Wpg and all :D
Lou would be a Capitano you'd think by now. ;)
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 07, 2014, 03:26:11 PM
I guess you would know??. I guess here in Wpg and all :D
Lou would be a Capitano you'd think by now. ;)
ever see the Sopranos? :D
I've seen all things related to the mob. TV, movies, documentaries I've seen it all
Scary moment at Dallas-Columbus game. From the TSN website:
Rich Peverley collapsed on the bench during the Dallas Stars' game against the Columbus Blue Jackets.
The game was stopped midway through the first period while medical personnel attended to Peverley, with both teams leaving the ice. Blue Jackets President of Hockey Operations, John Davidson, has announced that the game will be postponed in light of the situation.
The NHL released a statement on Peverley's condition: "Dallas player Rich Peverley is doing well and is in stable condition. He has been transported to the hospital. As a result of the emotional state of the players on both teams caused by the medical emergency, the game is being postponed. We apologize for any inconvenience and we thank the fans."
Peverley missed a game last week with an irregular heartbeat, the same condition that kept him out of the lineup for the entire preseason, according to the Dallas News.
More details to follow.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on March 11, 2014, 01:00:08 AM
Scary moment at Dallas-Columbus game. From the TSN website:
Rich Peverley collapsed on the bench during the Dallas Stars' game against the Columbus Blue Jackets.
The game was stopped midway through the first period while medical personnel attended to Peverley, with both teams leaving the ice. Blue Jackets President of Hockey Operations, John Davidson, has announced that the game will be postponed in light of the situation.
The NHL released a statement on Peverley's condition: "Dallas player Rich Peverley is doing well and is in stable condition. He has been transported to the hospital. As a result of the emotional state of the players on both teams caused by the medical emergency, the game is being postponed. We apologize for any inconvenience and we thank the fans."
Peverley missed a game last week with an irregular heartbeat, the same condition that kept him out of the lineup for the entire preseason, according to the Dallas News.
More details to follow.
old news he's stable.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 11, 2014, 08:50:27 PM
old news he's stable.
It's wasn't old news at the time I posted it.
Gonna say it, it's pretty hard not to cheer on the stars right now, Yup i understand the implications to the JETS, but... i dont think the Jets will make it and if/when they dont, I think i might have to pull for the stars, would be a great story really, they beat st louis tonight a night after the peverly incident, which is news, HUGE NEWS STILL, thats a scary situation there, could have died really..
But if the Jets dont/when the jets dont get in, GO Stars Go!!
The other Hockey related news is a player from the saginaw spirit, trafford was found dead in his truck.
Missing for a week or so i believe.
Only 20 years old.
Must have had some issues. Was just suspended for vioation of rules by the OHL and also was known to have depression issues.
Sad story there.
update to trafford story
police say cause of death was self inflicted asphyxiation (surely that is not the correct spelling tho)
In other words tho, he killed himself.
That's really sad. :'(
David Clarkson has a total of 10 points this season , and he earns a cap hit that is only 150k less then Kessels :D and with that loss tonight, the Leafs move a step closer to not making the play offs again ;D
David Clarkson was also hurt for how many games...? A lot.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2014, 01:19:53 PM
David Clarkson was also hurt for how many games...? A lot.
no...he was hurt for a few games...he was suspended for the rest of them
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 24, 2014, 04:30:53 PM
no...he was hurt for a few games...he was suspended for the rest of them
He's missed 23 games this season. Didn't he miss 12 due to suspension? That's still 11 missed due to injury.
Needless to say, the Leafs are in a tailspin.
k, this is pretty sad, even for Leafs fans
April Reimer, the wife of Maple Leafs goalie James Reimer, became the cruel target of various Twitters users over the weekend.
Maple Leafs forward Tyler Bozak defended April Reimer, who has taken abuse from people critical of her husband's play in the Leaf goal in recent weeks.
"I think this is pretty low and pretty sad," the Maple Leaf forward said about the abusive tweets sent to April in the last two days.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/2014/03/24/april_reimer_wife_of_maple_leaf_james_reimer_attacked_on_twitter.html
Reimer hasn't played well recently but the team as a whole hasn't, especially on the back end. Their defensive game is pretty much non-existent.
Reminds me of Jets fans who crap on the goalies here when they struggle.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2014, 04:46:46 PM
He's missed 23 games this season. Didn't he miss 12 due to suspension? That's still 11 missed due to injury.
Needless to say, the Leafs are in a tailspin.
so..9 points in 51 games @ 5.25 mil cap hit is ok by you? I would want you as my GM :D
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 24, 2014, 07:23:45 PM
so..9 points in 51 games @ 5.25 mil cap hit is ok by you? I would want you as my GM :D
MAN THAT ONE REALY REALLY STINKS.
Makes Nonis look like an idiott.
By far THE bust in last years FA. Now the leafs won't even make the playoffs to see if Clarkson is even good in that arena of play.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 24, 2014, 08:11:53 PM
MAN THAT ONE REALY REALLY STINKS.
Makes Nonis look like an idiott.
By far THE bust in last years FA. Now the leafs won't even make the playoffs to see if Clarkson is even good in that arena of play.
still a slim chance they can make it
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 24, 2014, 07:23:45 PM
so..9 points in 51 games @ 5.25 mil cap hit is ok by you? I would want you as my GM :D
I didn't say it was good, did I? Clarkson has been a huge disappointment this season. Only a fool would argue that.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2014, 11:36:53 PM
I didn't say it was good, did I? Clarkson has been a huge disappointment this season. Only a fool would argue that.
no..its just sounds like your making excuses for his poor play
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 25, 2014, 10:22:12 PM
no..its just sounds like your making excuses for his poor play
Haha, not at all. I'd never make an excuse for anyone wearing a Leafs jersey. I just think his being injured was a factor. ;)
Phaneuf is playing poorly. . Carlyle will be fired after this. He picks on his goaltender but doesnt say anything about his poor defense. Blaming one player for a 6 game losing streak? come on. Why didnt Bernier win the last game? Wasnt it a 5-3 game. Bernier should only let in 2 goals.
Quote from: Buckzumhoff on March 29, 2014, 12:15:38 PM
Phaneuf is playing poorly. . Carlyle will be fired after this. He picks on his goaltender but doesnt say anything about his poor defense. Blaming one player for a 6 game losing streak? come on. Why didnt Bernier win the last game? Wasnt it a 5-3 game. Bernier should only let in 2 goals.
why this testament now? What did Kitty say last night?
Just seen the highlights Phaneuf giving up the puck . Carlyle didnt say anything lately . But he sounds like he's putting alot of blame on the backup goaltender, Reimer. The team goes with Bernier and theres another loss. I dont think goalttending is the problem, its the defense and some of the forwards they use too much, Carlyle plays too many players that are just grinders.
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 24, 2014, 07:23:45 PM
so..9 points in 51 games @ 5.25 mil cap hit is ok by you? I would want you as my GM :D
He's certainly no Joe Pavelski...
Quote from: sweep the leg on March 29, 2014, 04:19:35 PM
He's certainly no Joe Pavelski...
dudes a gamer no doubt!
Kris Letang is supposed to play tonight - first game since his stroke. Great news.
Ryan Smyth has announced he will be retiring. His last game will be on Saturday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL04INIzAWk
Very cool why don't the jets have something that fancy?
Devils coach off to Toronto?
Anyone in any playoff pools?
I'm in one I'm going heavy on Boston
Plus the main point getters from Pittsburgh, Anaheim, and San Jose.
Those are the teams I like to succeed in this year's playoffs
This post-season is going to be a great one, IMO.
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 13, 2014, 06:58:51 PM
lol...no
Hell no. Rumour is DeBoer is going to be extended this week:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=449217 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=449217)
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 13, 2014, 07:09:20 PM
LOL was on twitter this morning.
of course...Leafs fans are running wild with speculation....everyone on the planet wants to work for the Leafs
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 13, 2014, 07:13:22 PM
of course...Leafs fans are running wild with speculation....everyone on the planet wants to work for the Leafs
Dat centre of da universe... ;D
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/peter-deboer-to-coach-toronto-maple-leafs--say-it-ain-t-so--lou-215805162.html
looks like hes gonna re-sign with the devils
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 13, 2014, 07:39:15 PM
looks like hes gonna re-sign with the devils
Yup... Lou just said so.
He gets another year
Add Nashville as a team looking for a new head coach. The Preds have announced they won't be renewing Barry Trotz's contract. He has been offered a job within the organization.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on April 14, 2014, 03:56:22 PM
Add Nashville as a team looking for a new head coach. The Preds have announced they won't be renewing Barry Trotz's contract. He has been offered a job within the organization.
If Maurice isn't re-signed, I wonder if he could end up with the Jets.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 14, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
If Maurice isn't re-signed, I wonder if he could end up with the Jets.
It sure sounds like Maurice wants to stay. It'll be his family situation that dictates the decision, though.
As for Trotz, he seems like a pretty passionate coach and enjoys being behind the bench. I find it hard to imagine he'd take this new offer from the Predators.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 14, 2014, 06:46:14 PM
It sure sounds like Maurice wants to stay. It'll be his family situation that dictates the decision, though.
As for Trotz, he seems like a pretty passionate coach and enjoys being behind the bench. I find it hard to imagine he'd take this new offer from the Predators.
Agree on both points.
The media seems to believe Paul will be back next year, but I have an iffy feeling about it due to the family situation. I'm sure he will weigh his options in the States and if someone gives him a "better offer" (opportunity, rather, not money-related) then I think he won't be here. IMO it's 50/50.
I've heard his family may not want to leave Toronto..but who knows
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 14, 2014, 08:40:09 PM
I've heard his family may not want to leave Toronto..but who knows
They live in Ohio as per the free press today
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on April 14, 2014, 08:56:18 PM
They live in Ohio as per the free press today
that seems like a very odd place for him to live
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 14, 2014, 09:27:56 PM
that seems like a very odd place for him to live
hey man it is what it is. Ya know wives and all.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on April 14, 2014, 09:29:09 PM
hey man it is what it is. Ya know wives and all.
ya...wanting to live in Ohio and crap...weird...there must be some reason why they live in ohio of all places :D
its gonna be a long off season....cant wait for draft day and UFA day.....hope we buy out at least one guy and get some younger scoring in that we desperatly need ...defense and goalie we look fine, just need to get that scoring punch going
maybe the Devils will be in on Kane lol
No playoff poolies out there?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on April 15, 2014, 08:32:08 PM
No playoff poolies out there?
I'm in if we do it again.
I meant in other places not on here.
I dont have the time, energy to make one up on here.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on April 15, 2014, 10:49:19 PM
I meant in other places not on here.
I dont have the time, energy to make one up on here.
Fair point. It does take a lot of time/effort to write twenty names down.
Man Boston let me down yesterday.
They need to come back with a vengeance Sunday and I am sure they will.
All my other teams are winning though. Ana, SJ, Pitt
Lucic gets $5k fine for spearing DeKeyser in the nads. I hope DeKeyser gets some of that...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 19, 2014, 05:49:35 PM
Lucic gets $5k fine for spearing DeKeyser in the nads. I hope DeKeyser gets some of that...
Classless but nothing new when it comes to Lucic. He's a dirtbag.
Not just classless, premeditated. If you watch, he lines him up and "Bang". I wonder if there is actually a legal recourse to take. Can DeKeyser sue Lucic for assault with a weapon causing harm? Would set a bad tone, but might prevent this crap from happening.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioq2gp2pJu4
i dont like the idea of criminal charges ...they play the game knowing this kinda stuff can, and does happen
A $5000 fine to someone making multi-millions is nothing, really there is no consequence to his action here. The only way to rid the sport of such bush league antics is fine the player AND to suspend the player for a game for doing something stupid. The player forfeits his salary for the game, which is alot more than the fine, plus it also puts his team in a bind. Until they do this, it is just lip service.
ya...he should be suspended at least 1 game for that
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 20, 2014, 03:33:47 PM
i dont like the idea of criminal charges ...they play the game knowing this kinda stuff can, and does happen
I agree.... criminal charges are stupid.
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 20, 2014, 03:33:47 PM
i dont like the idea of criminal charges ...they play the game knowing this kinda stuff can, and does happen
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 20, 2014, 03:47:36 PM
I agree.... criminal charges are stupid.
Seriously? No job in the world allows you to "expect" to have your nads removes with a stick.
This could have led to permanent injury and affect his family status in the future.
This was not an act within the normal persuit of the game. He was leaving the ice, and reached his stick between the legs and jammed. No doubt it was a premeditated act intended to injure.
I think an out of court settlement will be reached...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 20, 2014, 04:46:26 PM
Seriously? No job in the world allows you to "expect" to have your nads removes with a stick.
This could have led to permanent injury and affect his family status in the future.
This was not an act within the normal persuit of the game. He was leaving the ice, and reached his stick between the legs and jammed. No doubt it was a premeditated act intended to injure.
I think an out of court settlement will be reached...
You really think hes going to sue him?
and if a guy slashes another player...intending to so and breaks his wrist, should he sue? cause thats where your headed
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 20, 2014, 05:06:19 PM
and if a guy slashes another player...intending to so and breaks his wrist, should he sue? cause thats where your headed
Yup thats what im thinking. I dont even think he can sue him anyway.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 20, 2014, 05:09:46 PM
Yup thats what im thinking. I dont even think he can sue him anyway.
no...i wouldnt think so....it would have to involve charging him criminally with assault
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 20, 2014, 05:10:40 PM
no...i wouldnt think so....it would have to involve charging him criminally with assault
And thats not going to happen.
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 20, 2014, 05:06:19 PM
and if a guy slashes another player...intending to so and breaks his wrist, should he sue? cause thats where your headed
Most slashes are attempts to hit the stick that miss. Stick on stick is part of the game. Interference, impeding progress, body checks, all part of the game.
Cowardly attacking a guys nads from behind as you leave the ice?
Not a part of any game, and definately not a part of a game you get paid millions to play.
If he had hit him in the head from behind, any better? Bertuzzi/Moore ring a bell? How is this any more "part of the game" than that?
Watch the clip again. Heading off the ice, reaches his stick through the legs and wham. Not a gentle "hey, next time I'll get you" lovetap, but an intent to remove testicles. Cup is not designed to prevent attacks from the rear...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 20, 2014, 05:29:08 PM
Most slashes are attempts to hit the stick that miss. Stick on stick is part of the game. Interference, impeding progress, body checks, all part of the game.
Cowardly attacking a guys nads from behind as you leave the ice?
Not a part of any game, and definately not a part of a game you get paid millions to play.
If he had hit him in the head from behind, any better? Bertuzzi/Moore ring a bell? How is this any more "part of the game" than that?
Watch the clip again. Heading off the ice, reaches his stick through the legs and wham. Not a gentle "hey, next time I'll get you" lovetap, but an intent to remove testicles. Cup is not designed to prevent attacks from the rear...
Hes not going to be charged and nobodys going to get sued. It happens more then you think... we just dont see it.
Same with slashes. Alot of time they arnt trying to hit a stick.
Lucic wouldn't be held criminally responsible for something like that.
Yes, it's cowardly and classless. But criminal? No. Just no.
i dont have to watch it again...i see that he meant to do it, and it was a douchebag move...noone is denying that...but he wont be charged criminally
Quote from: theaardvark on April 20, 2014, 05:29:08 PM
Most slashes are attempts to hit the stick that miss. Stick on stick is part of the game. Interference, impeding progress, body checks, all part of the game.
Cowardly attacking a guys nads from behind as you leave the ice?
Not a part of any game, and definately not a part of a game you get paid millions to play.
If he had hit him in the head from behind, any better? Bertuzzi/Moore ring a bell? How is this any more "part of the game" than that?
Watch the clip again. Heading off the ice, reaches his stick through the legs and wham. Not a gentle "hey, next time I'll get you" lovetap, but an intent to remove testicles. Cup is not designed to prevent attacks from the rear...
whatever medication you are on you should stop now.
Bruins won for me today got me 4 points woohoo.
Now if SJ can go up 2-0 that would make my weekend.
From TSN:
Blackhawks defenceman Brent Seabrook has been suspended for three games for his hit on Blues centre David Backes during their first-round playoff series.
The NHL announced the punishment Sunday, Seabrook's 29th birthday.
Seabrook received a five-minute major and game misconduct penalty for a vicious elbow to Backes' head late in the third period of Saturday's Game 2. Backes had to be helped off the ice and did not return during St. Louis' 4-3 overtime victory.
Seabrook's penalty led to Vladimir Tarasenko's tying goal with 6.4 seconds left in regulation.
The suspension is a big blow for the Blackhawks, who are down 2-0 heading into Game 3 on Monday night. Seabrook had a goal and an assist in each of the first two games of the series.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=449874 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=449874)
Hawks are likely done
Quote from: theaardvark on April 20, 2014, 04:46:26 PM
Seriously? No job in the world allows you to "expect" to have your nads removes with a stick.
This could have led to permanent injury and affect his family status in the future.
This was not an act within the normal persuit of the game. He was leaving the ice, and reached his stick between the legs and jammed. No doubt it was a premeditated act intended to injure.
I think an out of court settlement will be reached...
No.
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 21, 2014, 03:23:34 PM
Hawks are likely done
People are saying the same about the Kings. It's not over until it's over. The Sharks and the Blues still have to win two more games.
This first round has been amazing so far.
Well the hawks are keeping it close losing 2 in OT...the kings got thrashed and embarrased last night
How about them Blue Jackets?
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 21, 2014, 10:08:54 PM
Well the hawks are keeping it close losing 2 in OT...the kings got thrashed and embarrased last night
Two games is still two games. The Hawks' chances seem better but my point stands.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 22, 2014, 12:40:52 AM
How about them Blue Jackets?
Looks like I spoke too soon. :-\
that was a breakdown of epic proportions
Brutal. They were dominating through 40 mins.
Big wins for the Hawks and the Wild tonight. Looks like the Stars could get back into their series, too.
What an exciting opening round this year!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 22, 2014, 04:02:23 AM
Brutal. They were dominating through 40 mins.
Big wins for the Hawks and the Wild tonight. Looks like the Stars could get back into their series, too.
What an exciting opening round this year!
I agree. I looked at the match ups before the playoffs began and a lot of it looked like a big 'ol m'eh. But whereas I normally don't bother a whole lot with the first round, I find myself watching a lot of the games and really enjoying them so far.
Playoff hockey is awesome. ;D
I follow along, but I rarely watch games...my teams out so I don't care :P
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 23, 2014, 01:54:01 AM
I follow along, but I rarely watch games...my teams out so I don't care :P
same
Holy crap is Fleury a train wreck...
Matt Cooke suspended for 7 games.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450237 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450237)
Quote from: sweep the leg on April 24, 2014, 02:10:30 AM
Holy crap is Fleury a train wreck...
He had a bad game. But the same way the Jackets stepped off the gas on Monday, the Pens did pretty much the same thing tonight. Coughed up at 3-0 lead pretty badly and were outshot the final 40 mins.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on April 24, 2014, 02:30:05 AM
Matt Cooke suspended for 7 games.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450237 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450237)
Shame it isn't more but because of the new CBA...
Quote from: sweep the leg on April 24, 2014, 02:10:30 AM
Holy crap is Fleury a train wreck...
I'm sure Shero is starting to feel like he has seen this movie far too many times.
Quote from: True Blue on April 24, 2014, 04:20:52 PM
Shame it isn't more but because of the new CBA...
Someone like Cooke doesn't belong in the NHL. What gives him the right to deliberately injure another player in such a blatant and obvious manner?
At the very least he should be suspended for as long as Barrie is unable to play.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on April 24, 2014, 02:30:05 AM
Matt Cooke suspended for 7 games.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450237 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450237)
Too bad it wasn't more.
I realize that this is a reactionary defensive move at times, but Cooke is the common denominator far too many times over the years. The guy just can't help himself from making bone-headed cheap shots.
I would love to see the blue jackets win there first play off series...stupid penguins
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 24, 2014, 05:04:16 PM
I would love to see the blue jackets win there first play off series...stupid penguins
I think there are several teams, Jets included, that could live vicariously through the Blue Jackets!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 24, 2014, 02:43:27 AM
He had a bad game. But the same way the Jackets stepped off the gas on Monday, the Pens did pretty much the same thing tonight. Coughed up at 3-0 lead pretty badly and were outshot the final 40 mins.
No sweeper is right HE IS a train wreck especially when he lets in one bad goal. :'(
Fleury is a train wreck
http://youtu.be/WQGz9UoKOKo
http://youtu.be/Ir7Ha6NqyHs
http://youtu.be/c8gMr0D2Pg8
dude screws up at the worst times lol
From TSN: Washington fires Oates, not renewing McPhee's contract
The Washington Capitals have fired coach Adam Oates and will not renew the contract of general manager George McPhee after failing to make the NHL playoffs for the first time since 2007.
The team announced the moves in a news release Saturday.
Oates, a former star player for the Capitals, had one season left on his three-year contract. This was his first job as a head coach.
"We are also appreciative of Adam's efforts and thank him for his devotion, work ethic and contributions to the Capitals the past two seasons," said Capitals majority owner Ted Leonsis. "He is a smart, tactical coach who improved the performance of several of our players. He is a Hall of Fame player who we believe will be a longtime coach in the NHL. We will help him in whatever way we are able and wish him well."
McPhee's contract was up. He has been the GM of the team for 17 years, drafting Alex Ovechkin and Nicklas Backstrom in the first round.
"George has been a terrific, longtime executive for our franchise, and I'm grateful for his commitment to the Capitals organization for the past 17 years," said Leonsis.
While Ovechkin has won three league MVP awards and again led the NHL in scoring this season with 51 goals, the Capitals haven't made it past the second round of the playoffs during the Russian wing's career.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450491 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450491)
hoping the Hawks win
well..thats all she wrote for the Blues
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 27, 2014, 09:34:21 PM
well..thats all she wrote for the Blues
Hawks.
Thats a good team.
Blues have been a top 5 team the past few seasons and have zero to show for it
Quote from: AngryGreg on April 27, 2014, 10:07:14 PM
Blues have been a top 5 team the past few seasons and have zero to show for it
Yup.... Once they get to this point smallest things make or break a team.
Really good teams seem to gt there.
Sounds like Jagr has a deal in place to return to the Devils
What an amazing first round. I really thought the Jackets were going to force a game 7 on Monday night. Needless to say, they really give the boring Penguins a run for their money. Regardless of who wins the Flyers/Rangers series, I don't see the Penguins beating either team if they continue to play as pitifully as they did in the first round. They continue to underachieve in the post-season. Ever since that series with the Flyers in 2012. Hilarious. LOL
The Blues lived up to their identity. Yet again. What a sad effort in game 6. It looks like the Sharks are no different in that regard, either. If they lose game 7 tonight and get eliminated, I don't think it'll be a shocker at all. I'd rather see the Kings move on to the next round, anyway.
The NHL playoffs are awesome! ;D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 30, 2014, 02:15:58 PM
What an amazing first round. I really thought the Jackets were going to force a game 7 on Monday night. Needless to say, they really give the boring Penguins a run for their money.
When is the last time the Penguins had a boring playoff series?
Quote from: sweep the leg on April 30, 2014, 02:19:00 PM
When is the last time the Penguins had a boring playoff series?
I meant their style of play in the post-season. It's nowhere near as exciting to watch compared to the regular season.
And last year's ECF with the Bruins. The Pens were an utter bore to watch.
Wow huge night tonight 3 game 7s
I need SJ to finally close out for my pool team and an Avs and LA loss would hurt my buddies pool team.
I don't need either Philly or rangers to win but I'd like to see Philly win because them VS Pitt would epic.
Christmas tonight you're a hockey fan.
Wow...minny ties it up with wicked shot under 3 minutes left.
Reports out of Vancouver have Torts being fired tomorrow morning.
Dang Avs just couldn't keep a lead. I really thought they'd move on to the second round but full marks to the Wild for taking game 7 in Denver. That was a fun game.
As expected, the Sharks choke and get eliminated with relative ease by the Kings. The look on Wilson's face at the end of the game was something else.
The second round of these playoffs is going to be a blast!
Over the past 15 years or so, the sharks are hands down the worst best team in the league
I really thought the sharks would make it this year that's me taking players from the team instead of LA.
Boy was I wrong. Sharks just aren't built for the playoffs.
Rather sad really!
Ya...they should trade Marleau to the Devils
Torts is officially a goner.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450923
And the **** show that is the Vancouver Canucks ownership just keeps going on and on ....
(https://lh3.ggpht.com/etYBbFX1faL_h-QWl4oeq16sc0JN8qAjoiRgHpK29k8uAzMsnRR8Pa2FPHgOyyemTM7hDA=s90)
(Caption: This is the part of the stick they keep choking on)
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10308123_749711798393957_757231371816016120_n.jpg
Too soon?
Too soon? Hell nah. The Sharks choked hard.
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 01, 2014, 05:18:47 PM
Ya...they should trade Marleau to the Devils
He has a no trade clause and he'd never want to go to NJ. :D
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 02, 2014, 01:37:10 PM
He has a no trade clause and he'd never want to go to NJ. :D
I know...but I've wanted him for a long time...don't crush my dreams lol
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 02, 2014, 01:37:10 PM
He has a no trade clause and he'd never want to go to NJ. :D
Actually it's a no movement clause - Thornton has one too.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 02, 2014, 08:08:15 PM
Actually it's a no movement clause - Thornton has one too.
same thing..pretty much ...especially in regards to Marleau and Thronton
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 02, 2014, 08:08:15 PM
Actually it's a no movement clause - Thornton has one too.
A large % of your posts start with "Actually, ...". You're all about fact checking.
wow, compared to the first round of the playoffs my interest has really come.
I am paying attention the the HAB one but the rest I could careless about.
its the time of year when i am simply rooting for the lesser of the evils....if the habs win then its 4 months of listening to the Cup is finally back in Canada (like that means anything, its lame)...if the Pens win, then its 4 months of how great Crosby is, blah blah blah..........i hate the kings since they beat the Devils.....i dont wnat the Wild to win, because Parise is there, and i hope he never wins a cup...i dislike the Rangers because they are the Devils hudson river rivals, and i am indifferent towards Boston.....so i guess I am rooting for the Hawks
but mostly i am waiting for the draft and UFA signings
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 06, 2014, 11:41:30 PM
its the time of year when i am simply rooting for the lesser of the evils....if the habs win then its 4 months of listening to the Cup is finally back in Canada (like that means anything, its lame)...if the Pens win, then its 4 months of how great Crosby is, blah blah blah..........i hate the kings since they beat the Devils.....i dont wnat the Wild to win, because Parise is there, and i hope he never wins a cup...i dislike the Rangers because they are the Devils hudson river rivals, and i am indifferent towards Boston.....so i guess I am rooting for the Hawks
He's great no matter what happens this spring, so you may as well cheer for him...
Quote from: sweep the leg on May 07, 2014, 12:41:36 AM
He's great no matter what happens this spring, so you may as well cheer for him...
his stock is on the decline
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 07, 2014, 01:15:08 AM
his stock is on the decline
ya I guess winning the Art Ross again playing with 1 little better than average scoring winger certainly tells me the kid is on the decline in the middle of his prime.
Quote from: Nic16 on May 07, 2014, 01:54:17 PM
ya I guess winning the Art Ross again playing with 1 little better than average scoring winger certainly tells me the kid is on the decline in the middle of his prime.
Just like being a finalist for the Hart Trophy and the Ted Lindsay Award, which is voted on by the players, is a sure sign of decline.
HMMMM I think the angry one just dislikes Crosby and is venting again.
Bingo!!!
Well I can't enough of Sid the Kid!!!
:-*
Carlyle extended...kinda suprising
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=451611....Leafs suck
Carlyle not fired, good it will make next years epic melt down even better.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 08, 2014, 10:06:11 PM
Carlyle not fired, good it will make next years epic melt down even better.
LOL
I figured theyd clean house
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 08, 2014, 10:30:07 PM
LOL
I figured theyd clean house
Well, they did and they didn't ... they kept Carlyle, but fired all of his assistants.
Carlyle wasn't the problem IMO. Good choice to keep him. Their adjustments will need to come on the roster.
Consistency is the issue tho imo...they were very much a playoff team for over half the season...then they lost like 10 games in a row, taking them out of the race, and they could never get back on track....that's a coaching issue imo
Sean Thornton is such an idiot. I hope the fine he gets for squirting Subban with the water bottle is a big one.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 11, 2014, 03:40:59 AM
Sean Thornton is such an idiot. I hope the fine he gets for squirting Subban with the water bottle is a big one.
Chump change. The league doesn't seem care if players resort to childish antics.
Lundqvist did it to Crosby tonight. I wonder if he'll get fined.
later Syd
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 12, 2014, 01:36:03 AM
Chump change. The league doesn't seem care if players resort to childish antics.
Lundqvist did it to Crosby tonight. I wonder if he'll get fined.
What Lundqvist did was different. Play was over when he sprayed Crosby. Thornton did it from the bench while play was going on.
It was a small fine but it was the maximum fine they could give under the CBA. And because Lundqvist makes more money, his fine was bigger than Thornton's. Did Perry get a fine for squirting water into that guy's glove during a break?
Any friendly bets on the Habs VS Bears game tonight?
I say Bruins in a 3-2 double overtime contest. Iggy scores to end it!
If Habs win I take Vanek just for fun for game winning goal!
Please enter here v
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sounds as though Bylsma and Shero will be gone from Pittsburgh any time now
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 14, 2014, 10:05:03 PM
sounds as though Bylsma and Shero will be gone from Pittsburgh any time now
ya both will be gonzo
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 14, 2014, 10:05:03 PM
sounds as though Bylsma and Shero will be gone from Pittsburgh any time now
Both or neither must go, IMO. Shero can't stick around if he cans Byslma. That'd be a travesty.
So glad the Bruins are out. I'm no Habs fan but it's always good when the B's get booted. ;D
I'm glad the B's are out to but the Habs are my second team after the Jets.
Milan "Cowbell" Lucic is quite the piece of work. Gets angry after getting the gears for celebrating too early.
Looks good on him....
NYR in 7
Ducks beat LA, and then go on to beat the Hawks & then NYR in the SC final.
And the Finish Flash caps his career off with a Stanley Cup, Olympic Bronze Medal, and Olympic MVP!! ;D
Quote from: Nic16 on May 15, 2014, 05:39:20 PM
NYR in 7
Ducks beat LA, and then go on to beat the Hawks & then NYR in the SC final.
And the Finish Flash caps his career off with a Stanley Cup, Olympic Bronze Medal, and Olympic MVP!! ;D
even if all that happens Selanne will not win Conn Smythe...unless he scores about a dozen goals from now till then
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 15, 2014, 09:02:02 PM
even if all that happens Selanne will not win Conn Smythe...unless he scores about a dozen goals from now till then
Captain Obvious that's a poor attempt at being Debbie Downer. :D
Quote from: theaardvark on May 15, 2014, 03:32:38 PM
Milan "Cowbell" Lucic is quite the piece of work. Gets angry after getting the gears for celebrating too early.
Looks good on him....
It dont matter.
Teemu.... Will go in the HOF as a Duck.
Sad :P But
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 16, 2014, 03:56:38 AM
It dont matter.
Sure it does. He's disrespectful, immature and downright jerkish. That sort of douchebag behaviour and piss-poor attitude has no place in pro sports, especially during a handshake after a playoff game. Not to mention his "celebratory" bicep flexing and taking his stick to another player's genitals. He then utters threats like some kind of psycho after his team lost and then calls out Weise and Emelin for saying something about it, resorting to name-calling and some lame attempt at saying they should've left it on the ice. Give me a break.
Milan Lucic needs to grow up. Being a sore loser to the extent his has been only makes him look bad in all of this.
Looks like Shero and Bylsma are gone:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452306 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452306)
Holy balls.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 16, 2014, 01:30:27 PM
Sure it does. He's disrespectful, immature and downright jerkish. That sort of douchebag behaviour and piss-poor attitude has no place in pro sports, especially during a handshake after a playoff game. Not to mention his "celebratory" bicep flexing and taking his stick to another player's genitals. He then utters threats like some kind of psycho after his team lost and then calls out Weise and Emelin for saying something about it, resorting to name-calling and some lame attempt at saying they should've left it on the ice. Give me a break.
Milan Lucic needs to grow up. Being a sore loser to the extent his has been only makes him look bad in all of this.
I started reading then it all just turned to Blah Blah Blah :p In the end this sport is all about the entertainment factor and Lucic has entertained me :D
I for one do not find it a big deal. He told Emilin and Weise he was gunning for them next season. There is nothing wrong with that at all. He is a power forward that hits and he is going to hit them very hard when he has the opportunity. Multiple players went nut happy these playoffs, Markov and Perry amoung them.......Lucic is just a trend setter.
I'm a big fan of Lucic, however, the bag check from behind and the threats while shaking hands doesn't look all that good on the big guy. Take your loss like a man and keep your mouth shut if you have nothing good to say when shaking hands. Then when next year rolls around and you still have some anger and hatred towards a particular player just inform him of it on the ice.
And Weise should have taken the high road and not said a thing about it. Telling the media you were threatened doesn't look good on ya. Just deal with it next year. And if the time comes you have to drop the gloves with Lucic just get in close and hang on. Weise is big enough to at least protect himself. This is a mans game, don't look to the media & fans for empathy.
Quote from: Nic16 on May 16, 2014, 07:51:13 PM
And Weise should have taken the high road and not said a thing about it. Telling the media you were threatened doesn't look good on ya. Just deal with it next year. And if the time comes you have to drop the gloves with Lucic just get in close and hang on. Weise is big enough to at least protect himself. This is a mans game, don't look to the media & fans for empathy.
Weise said he was threatened? The interviews I saw he said he wasn't going to say what was said.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 16, 2014, 10:34:57 PM
Weise said he was threatened? The interviews I saw he said he wasn't going to say what was said.
Ah Weise did take the high road. Can't blame him for nothing even afterwards. Lucic is a knob and it should have been known if it wasn't already. Don't' wrap whatever Weise did into this crap. IT'S ALL Lulu being the anything here.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 16, 2014, 10:34:57 PM
Weise said he was threatened? The interviews I saw he said he wasn't going to say what was said.
You're right. I have since read that a certain reporter admits to reading too much into Weise post game comments. Weise alluded to the fact comments were said and that Lucic could have shown more class like Thornton.
Nothing drastic there, but a "no comment" would have sufficed rather than a subtle last poke at a angry bear thru the media.
Quote from: Nic16 on May 16, 2014, 11:26:43 PM
You're right. I have since read that a certain reporter admits to reading too much into Weise post game comments. Weise alluded to the fact comments were said and that Lucic could have shown more class like Thornton.
Nothing drastic there, but a "no comment" would have sufficed rather than a subtle last poke at a angry bear thru the media.
a bah humm bug
Well, the Ducks forgot to show up tonight. Yikes. :-\
Weise should have not said anything about what a player told him on the ice.
Lucic is an idiot for opening his mouth.
Both these guys need to learn to not comment on things said on ice.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 17, 2014, 03:41:10 AM
Weise should have not said anything about what a player told him on the ice.
Lucic is an idiot for opening his mouth.
Both these guys need to learn to not comment on things said on ice.
Sorry, but "heat of battle" and "unwritten code of what is said on the ice" is dumb. These are grown men playing a professional sport for millions of dollars. Wanna be a jerk and and take a chance at destroying your earning potential, knock yourself out. But don't be upset when you get outed.
His comments had no place on the ice or off. The game was over, there was nothing at stake, he was just bitter about losing and lashed out at someone that was less of a "star" thinking he is better than Weiss, and its Weiss's job to take that kind of crap from him. Sorry, it isn't anyone's job to take that abuse. He needs to find a more appropriate outlet for his anger.
As to the whole Cowbell incident earlier, sorry, but that defines Lucic for me. Regardless any on ice heroics he may perform, my thought of him will be that whacking of an unsuspecting opponent in the genitals when his back is turned. The epitome of both classlessness and cowardice.
Hahaha... The Habs.
oops....montreal forget there was a game today
Quote from: theaardvark on May 17, 2014, 06:46:32 PM
Sorry, but "heat of battle" and "unwritten code of what is said on the ice" is dumb. These are grown men playing a professional sport for millions of dollars. Wanna be a jerk and and take a chance at destroying your earning potential, knock yourself out. But don't be upset when you get outed.
His comments had no place on the ice or off. The game was over, there was nothing at stake, he was just bitter about losing and lashed out at someone that was less of a "star" thinking he is better than Weiss, and its Weiss's job to take that kind of crap from him. Sorry, it isn't anyone's job to take that abuse. He needs to find a more appropriate outlet for his anger.
As to the whole Cowbell incident earlier, sorry, but that defines Lucic for me. Regardless any on ice heroics he may perform, my thought of him will be that whacking of an unsuspecting opponent in the genitals when his back is turned. The epitome of both classlessness and cowardice.
I never mentioned any heat of the battle.
Players say crap to each other all the time. Most are just smart enuff to not mention it.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 17, 2014, 06:46:32 PM
Regardless any on ice heroics he may perform, my thought of him will be that whacking of an unsuspecting opponent in the genitals when his back is turned. The epitome of both classlessness and cowardice.
You sure seem concerned about that player's junk. I have to wonder if Lucic had high sticked the guy if you would be as upset. I'm certainly not defending Lucic but he wasn't the first to do that and he won't be the last but you're acting like he's the only one to ever do it.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 17, 2014, 09:32:21 PM
I never mentioned any heat of the battle.
Players say crap to each other all the time. Most are just smart enuff to not mention it.
During the game. Not after the game during a handshake.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 18, 2014, 01:26:47 AM
You sure seem concerned about that player's junk. I have to wonder if Lucic had high sticked the guy if you would be as upset. I'm certainly not defending Lucic but he wasn't the first to do that and he won't be the last but you're acting like he's the only one to ever do it.
This is a great point. Crosby did it to Girardi (IIRC) during the last round. Only he never got punished for it.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 18, 2014, 09:34:31 PM
During the game. Not after the game during a handshake.
This is a great point. Crosby did it to Girardi (IIRC) during the last round. Only he never got punished for it.
True enough... but i still say it should stay on the ice. Tell your mates and coaches but not the media.
Its really stupid to say anything at that point but i dont think it needs to be brought out, it wont fix or prove anything.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 18, 2014, 09:44:16 PM
True enough... but i still say it should stay on the ice. Tell your mates and coaches but not the media.
Its really stupid to say anything at that point but i dont think it needs to be brought out, it wont fix or prove anything.
Well, it proves how classless Lucic is. Look at his history in the NHL. He's a goon through and through. Win or lose, he has no respect and it seems like the only way he'll ever change his attitude is if he gets his lights knocked out.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 18, 2014, 09:48:05 PM
Well, it proves how classless Lucic is. Look at his history in the NHL. He's a goon through and through. Win or lose, he has no respect and it seems like the only way he'll ever change his attitude is if he gets his lights knocked out.
Thats my point tho... Hes a jerkoff and everyone knows it. Tell your mates and take care of biz the next time you see him.
Whats said and done on the ice should be delt with on the ice. IMO
after seeing some of todays I don't care about anybody else, Chicago's winning the cup again.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 18, 2014, 09:44:16 PM
True enough... but i still say it should stay on the ice. Tell your mates and coaches but not the media.
Its really stupid to say anything at that point but i dont think it needs to be brought out, it wont fix or prove anything.
I think it would have stayed on the ice if the media hadn't brought it up. Neither player said what Lucic said - that came from the lip reading skills of the media.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 19, 2014, 01:55:23 AM
I think it would have stayed on the ice if the media hadn't brought it up. Neither player said what Lucic said - that came from the lip reading skills of the media.
True... and it should have been just shot down.
Put away for another day.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 18, 2014, 10:41:21 PM
after seeing some of todays I don't care about anybody else, Chicago's winning the cup again.
agreed....Toews is hands down the best player in the world
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 19, 2014, 01:55:23 AM
I think it would have stayed on the ice if the media hadn't brought it up. Neither player said what Lucic said - that came from the lip reading skills of the media.
Only an idiot would think that after a game like that, there would not be cameras all over them, recording every syllable out of their mouths. Heck, Lucic got caught days earlier Cowbell'ing a player behind the play, didn't he learn from that?
Sure, in the beer league, what happens on the ice stays on the ice. But when you get paid millions to play, and you have 27 cameras on you, its worse than any other celebrity and paparazzi. There is no expectation of privacy on the ice. Especially during the Stanley freaking Cup playoffs.
Again, he physically assaults a guy outside the realm of play (the player did not have the puck, and was not involved in the play when he tried to castrate him), and then he utters a death threat to another player. Do either of these in a bar, and you are open to criminal charges. Put on a hockey helemt and it just "part of the game".
The sooner they remove these shenanigans from the game, the better. Or, quit putting up the pretense, and bring us Rollerball on Ice.
Sounds like Miller will be on the move... Blues signed Elliott to 3 years 7mil.
And Price is out for remainder of the series.
athletes have been saying stuff like that to each other since the beginning of organized sports...hes not literally going to kill him....should he have said that during the handshake? probably not the best place for it, but enough with the dramatics already....you think guys dont say stuff like this to each other in football?
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 03:39:50 PM
athletes have been saying stuff like that to each other since the beginning of organized sports...hes not literally going to kill him....should he have said that during the handshake? probably not the best place for it, but enough with the dramatics already....you think guys dont say stuff like this to each other in football?
Someone should get a lawyer. :o
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 19, 2014, 03:23:59 PM
Sounds like Miller will be on the move... Blues signed Elliott to 3 years 7mil.
And Price is out for remainder of the series.
betcha the Leafs go hard over Miller....but i am betting he goes for a payday in the sun and signs with the sharks or ducks ...probably sharks
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 01:57:26 PM
agreed....Toews is hands down the best player in the world
Ya i agree.
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 03:42:57 PM
betcha the Leafs go hard over Miller....but i am betting he goes for a payday in the sun and signs with the sharks or ducks ...probably sharks
He will go for the money.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 19, 2014, 03:55:25 PM
He will go for the money.
not entirely sure but possibly.....i think the oilers/flames/islanders might go after him with a large offer...but i highly doubt he wants to go to any of those places...i could see him going to the west coast for less money
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 03:57:24 PM
not entirely sure but possibly.....i think the oilers/flames/islanders might go after him with a large offer...but i highly doubt he wants to go to any of those places...i could see him going to the west coast for less money
i could see TO and Ed going after him.
Lucic=Moron=goon=embarassment to hockey
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 19, 2014, 04:08:02 PM
i could see TO and Ed going after him.
the leafs for sure...but Miller is smarter then to sign to the place where good goalies go to die
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 04:25:51 PM
the leafs for sure...but Miller is smarter then to sign to the place where good goalies go to die
Yup.
Im not a fan of his.
Maybe he ends up with Pitts. LOL
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 19, 2014, 04:28:50 PM
Yup.
Im not a fan of his.
Maybe he ends up with Pitts. LOL
possibly, but even when all the trade rumors were abound about him this year, they mentioned he really wanted to be out west.....after years of living in Buffalo, im sure the beach and sun sound good to him, and if that means a million or less in his pocket, then im thinking he goes for it
Can't see why Ryan Miller sign with a west coast team . Here's why
San Jose : Antti Niemi
Anaheim : Jonas Hiller
Los Angeles : Jon Quick
Vancouver : Eddie Lack
Phoenix ( warm year round ) : Mike Smith
Price to miss remainder of series vs. the Rangers:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452556 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452556)
Yikes.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 19, 2014, 05:49:56 PM
Price to miss remainder of series vs. the Rangers:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452556 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452556)
Yikes.
That's going to hurt the Habs big time.
Quote from: BlueWonder on May 19, 2014, 06:02:54 PM
That's going to hurt the Habs big time.
hear the
Poof........
There goes the Habs chance to advance.
There's a 0% chance the Leafs go after Miller. They've got Bernier & he was very good for most of last season. Goaltending is the least of their concerns.
I think Miller will end up in San Jose. I've read in a few places that they really want to move on from Niemi, & Miller really wants to be on the West coast b/c his wife is an actress. It seems like a natural fit.
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 04:32:42 PM
possibly, but even when all the trade rumors were abound about him this year, they mentioned he really wanted to be out west.....after years of living in Buffalo, im sure the beach and sun sound good to him, and if that means a million or less in his pocket, then im thinking he goes for it
Pittsburgh can't afford what Miller will be asking for. Even if they could, I wouldn't want them to do it.
Quote from: sweep the leg on May 19, 2014, 08:48:48 PM
I think Miller will end up in San Jose. I've read in a few places that they really want to move on from Niemi, & Miller really wants to be on the West coast b/c his wife is an actress. It seems like a natural fit.
agreed
Quote from: sweep the leg on May 19, 2014, 08:48:48 PM
There's a 0% chance the Leafs go after Miller. They've got Bernier & he was very good for most of last season. Goaltending is the least of their concerns.
i think the leafs go on anyone....they have the attitude that "hey, everyone wants to be a leaf" ......they'll throw out an offer
bad year for Marty to test the free agency waters...i cant see him signing with anyone now that Miller and Hiller are both going to be available.....the only team i see him going to is the Islanders
Quote from: sweep the leg on May 19, 2014, 08:48:48 PM
There's a 0% chance the Leafs go after Miller. They've got Bernier & he was very good for most of last season. Goaltending is the least of their concerns.
I think Miller will end up in San Jose. I've read in a few places that they really want to move on from Niemi, & Miller really wants to be on the West coast b/c his wife is an actress. It seems like a natural fit.
I agree Miller Leafs seems right if they have the cay room.
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 09:59:31 PM
bad year for Marty to test the free agency waters...i cant see him signing with anyone now that Miller and Hiller are both going to be available.....the only team i see him going to is the Islanders
ew might as well retire if he goes there!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 19, 2014, 10:20:38 PM
ew might as well retire if he goes there!
its his only real chance to be a starter....close to home and with a team that has youth and potential to get into the play offs
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 10:21:21 PM
its his only real chance to be a starter....close to home and with a team that has youth and potential to get into the play offs
Islanders will sign Halak.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 19, 2014, 10:29:43 PM
Islanders will sign Halak.
if Halak wants to sign there
Quote from: sweep the leg on May 19, 2014, 08:53:46 PM
Pittsburgh can't afford what Miller will be asking for. Even if they could, I wouldn't want them to do it.
Cap issues aside, goaltending is not the problem with the Penguins.
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 10:56:50 PM
if Halak wants to sign there
This.
not much will happen in pittsburgh...new gm...maybe a new coach....but the same group of players
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 19, 2014, 03:57:24 PM
not entirely sure but possibly.....i think the oilers/flames/islanders might go after him with a large offer...but i highly doubt he wants to go to any of those places...i could see him going to the west coast for less money
Since Miller's wife is an actress based in California that is a very likely scenario.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 20, 2014, 12:58:19 AM
Cap issues aside, goaltending is not the problem with the Penguins.
If the Penguins had Miller years ago, they'd have more Cups to show for it. They need solid goaltending that can win them games. They continue to be successful despite Fleury, not because of.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 20, 2014, 01:42:55 AM
Since Miller's wife is an actress based in California that is a very likely scenario.
Maybe the Ducks...? Hiller's a UFA this off-season, right...?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 20, 2014, 02:03:26 AM
Maybe the Ducks...? Hiller's a UFA this off-season, right...?
yes..and Hiller sounds as tho he is very much done with the Ducks
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 20, 2014, 01:38:56 AM
not much will happen in pittsburgh...new gm...maybe a new coach....but the same group of players
They'll have some reasonably important players leave. Orpik & Niskanen probably won't be back. Orpik's getting old & a little beaten up. He'll only be back if he takes a discount to stay. Niskanen had a career year as a pending UFA so he'll want too much money. I'd let him walk rather than paying him big money. Their D is probably going to be much younger next year. Dumoulin, Depres, Harrington, & possibly Pouliot could all be ready for the NHL next year.
I expect to see a lot more toughness in their bottom six forwards. There are rumours that they might look to trade Neal to help with their depth issues. I'm not sure what the rumours are worth though, as they don't have a GM right now.
Quote from: dd on May 20, 2014, 02:02:17 AM
If the Penguins had Miller years ago, they'd have more Cups to show for it. They need solid goaltending that can win them games. They continue to be successful despite Fleury, not because of.
LOL :D
Thanks for the laughs. Spoken like someone who doesn't know hockey is a team game.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 20, 2014, 04:24:00 PM
LOL :D
Thanks for the laughs. Spoken like someone who doesn't know hockey is a team game.
While I doubt that they would of won more cups. Their games would of been lower scoring. Fluery is a terrible post season goalie but a just above average regular season goalie. Not sure what his issue is.
Miller would improve the penguins, but realistically not by much. as Fluery had his best playoff performance this year since the 07-08 season and this season was his worst playoff perormance to date.
Miller has been better playoff performer with a horrible sabers franchise. .maybe he is just regressing due to age? But regardless Miller would have made the penguins a bit better in the past but that time has come and gone.
Quote from: Ziggy66 on May 21, 2014, 07:55:29 PM
While I doubt that they would of won more cups. Their games would of been lower scoring. Fluery is a terrible post season goalie but a just above average regular season goalie. Not sure what his issue is.
Miller would improve the penguins, but realistically by not by much as Fluery had his best playoff performance since the 07-08 season. Miller has been better playoff performer with a horrible sabers franchise. This season was his worst playoff perormance to date. maybe he is just regressing due to age? But regardless Miller would have made the penguins a bit better but that time has come and gone.
That's speculative at best. Miller wasn't exactly lights out with the Blues, even though that team having a much better defense than the Sabres.
Besides, it's win as a team, lose as a team. The Penguins have done Fleury no favours in recent years in the playoffs, anyway. They're not exactly built for the post-season, as indicated by their numbers as a whole.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 21, 2014, 08:03:57 PM
That's speculative at best. Miller wasn't exactly lights out with the Blues, even though that team having a much better defense than the Sabres.
Besides, it's win as a team, lose as a team. The Penguins have done Fleury no favours in recent years in the playoffs, anyway. They're not exactly built for the post-season, as indicated by their numbers as a whole.
exactly. he had his worst playoff performance to date with the blues. At best the numbers and track record of Miller projects that he would do much better than Fluery with the Penguins*** as the Sabers have been less of an offensive force than the penguins but probably on par defensively. This is known khaleesi.
Fluery is just a bad playoff performer
*** playoffs on my mind
Quote from: Ziggy66 on May 21, 2014, 08:11:50 PM
Fluery is just a bad playoff performer
And the Pens are bad playoff performers as a whole. He's the type of goalie who performs better when his does. But he isn't the only goalie like that.
And he still helped win his team a Stanley Cup. Not exactly a fluke, that.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 21, 2014, 08:34:20 PM
And the Pens are bad playoff performers as a whole. He's the type of goalie who performs better when his does. But he isn't the only goalie like that.
And he still helped win his team a Stanley Cup. Not exactly a fluke, that.
He was good on the cup run, that is for sure but Malkin and Crosby had a dominating performance which negated the amount of goals he let in.
Average goalies can be a gift or a curse if the offense isnt clicking. If we can get an average goalie on the Jets we are playoff bound :D
Fleury's GAA during the playoffs was 2.40.
im betting Fleury remains on the team anyways
Pittsbrugh would want to much in return for Fleury
they might try to sign a guy like Hiller to light a fire under his butt
Pens may be pursuing Pierre McGuire for GM...very hockey smart...and very annoying
sounds as though Miller wont be heading out west....the sharks and ducks have both said they arent interested in his services, and of course LA is out of the question....Phoenix might be his best chance
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 22, 2014, 12:26:50 AM
sounds as though Miller wont be heading out west....the sharks and ducks have both said they arent interested in his services, and of course LA is out of the question....Phoenix might be his best chance
Maybe the nucks.
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 22, 2014, 12:26:50 AM
sounds as though Miller wont be heading out west....the sharks and ducks have both said they arent interested in his services, and of course LA is out of the question....Phoenix might be his best chance
But could the Sharks and Ducks be saying that because Miller isn't an UFA yet and it would be tampering to say they are?
From TSN:
VANCOUVER -- The Vancouver Canucks have named Jim Benning as their new general manager.
Benning is the first significant hire made by new Canucks president of hockey operations Trevor Linden, who was handed the franchise's reigns after the team missed the playoffs for the first time in six years following a disastrous 2013-14 campaign.
Benning spent the last eight seasons with the Boston Bruins, including seven as the club's assistant general manager.
A former Canucks defenceman during his playing days, the 51-year-old Benning is the 11th general manager in franchise history -- a post he has never held with an NHL club.
The Edmonton native replaces Mike Gillis, who was fired as Vancouver's president and general manager a day after the club was eliminated from playoff contention with three games left in the regular season.
Benning's first order of business with the Canucks will be to hire a new head coach after Linden axed John Tortorella earlier this month following one tumultuous campaign.
Benning will also have to prepare for next month's NHL draft and assess a roster that Tortorella accused of being "stale" at his end-of-season press conference.
Apart from helping to shape a Bruins team that defeated the Canucks in the 2011 Stanley Cup final, Benning's managerial resume also includes 12 seasons with Buffalo Sabres, with eight of those spent as that club's director of amateur scouting.
Selected sixth overall by the Toronto Maple Leafs in the 1981 NHL draft, Benning played nine seasons with Toronto and Vancouver, collecting 52 goals and 191 assists in 610 career games.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452733 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=452733)
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 22, 2014, 02:17:04 AM
But could the Sharks and Ducks be saying that because Miller isn't an UFA yet and it would be tampering to say they are?
i dont think so.....but neither team specifically used Miller's name...i think the quote from SJ was that they were not looking to add any veterans and want to continue to rebuild through youth....another source said the Ducks were planning on going with there two youngsters next season.....these of course are just sources, so who knows...rumors and such will start to really ramp up in the next couple of weeks
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 21, 2014, 11:23:08 PM
im betting Fleury remains on the team anyways
He's not going anywhere.
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 21, 2014, 11:55:07 PM
Pens may be pursuing Pierre McGuire for GM...very hockey smart...and very annoying
Seriously?! LOL :D
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 21, 2014, 11:55:07 PM
Pens may be pursuing Pierre McGuire for GM...very hockey smart...and very annoying
I'd be ok with that. The guy knows the history & scouting report of every player at every level of hockey. Part of what makes him so annoying is his need to show that off when he's calling a game.
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 21, 2014, 11:38:16 PM
they might try to sign a guy like Hiller to light a fire under his butt
They couldn't afford to have both of them on the team, unless Hiller took a contract way under market value.
It's tough to say what they'll do with Fleury. He was good to very good in the regular season, but despite his decent playoff numbers he let in a handful of soft goals. If nothing else, trading him would take an excuse away from the rest of the team.
Jaroslav Halak signed a 4 year contracted worth 18 million.
If you look at the pinned threads in this section there is a thread for NHL talk (not Jets) that this news can be posted in. Once you are more familiar with the forum I'm sure you'll get the hang of things on where to post.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 22, 2014, 10:36:34 PM
If you look at the pinned threads in this section there is a thread for NHL talk (not Jets) that this news can be posted in. Once you are more familiar with the forum I'm sure you'll get the hang of things on where to post.
Im glad hes or shes posting.
Keep posting BlueWonder... youll figure things out.
Well, at least the ECF won't be a sweep anymore. Big OT win by the Habs last night.
Very impressive performance by Tokarski.
Proust gets a 2 game suspension for his hit on Stepan and Carcillo got an automatic 10 game suspension for abusing an official.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 23, 2014, 10:47:07 PM
Proust gets a 2 game suspension for his hit on Stepan and Carcillo got an automatic 10 game suspension for abusing an official.
and?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 23, 2014, 11:05:58 PM
and?
And what? The NHL announced those suspensions today.
hate to say it these playoffs completely dis interest me now.
I find myself watching Lebron instead
The Caps have announced Brian MacLellan has been promoted to GM and Barry Trotz is the new head coach.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=720753&navid=DL|NHL|home (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=720753&navid=DL%7CNHL%7Chome)
Quote from: sweep the leg on May 22, 2014, 01:58:39 PM
I'd be ok with that. The guy knows the history & scouting report of every player at every level of hockey. Part of what makes him so annoying is his need to show that off when he's calling a game.
I'm like that when watching games, but thankfully it seems to me that it's appreciated by others when I'm watching, lol
Quote from: SaxonMiller11 on May 27, 2014, 10:22:33 PM
I'm like that when watching games, but thankfully it seems to me that it's appreciated by others when I'm watching, lol
guess what.....its not :D
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 27, 2014, 12:36:21 AM
The Caps have announced Brian MacLellan has been promoted to GM and Barry Trotz is the new head coach.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=720753&navid=DL|NHL|home (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=720753&navid=DL%7CNHL%7Chome)
Good move by the Caps.
Quote from: BlueWonder on May 27, 2014, 10:38:45 PM
Good move by the Caps.
see how ovie reacts to the defence first mentality
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 27, 2014, 10:38:04 PM
guess what.....its not :D
+1. Emrick and McGuire are irritating to listen to during NBC broadcasts. Add Milbury into the mix at intermission and it might as well be the equivalent of legitimate torture.
Quote from: AngryGreg on May 27, 2014, 10:38:04 PM
guess what.....its not :D
LOL oh saxy boy! Thank god I don't watch games with you.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 29, 2014, 06:35:54 PM
LOL oh saxy boy! Thank god I don't watch games with you.
why not? i wont be the guy talking through the whole game..."did you know where so and so played junior hockey?"....or the ol "did you know......"
give it a rest :D
Not even that. He knows what a certain player's favourite food is. Who cares...?
Speaking of who cares, how about those Habs? LOL :D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 30, 2014, 01:05:07 PM
Not even that. He knows what a certain player's favourite food is. Who cares...?
Speaking of who cares, how about those Habs? LOL :D
or hab nots lol
Still better than the rest of Canadian teams. They played well and then just ran into a slightly better team.
Quote from: True Blue on May 31, 2014, 12:46:04 AM
Still better than the rest of Canadian teams. They played well and then just ran into a slightly better team.
Lost Price.
Quote from: True Blue on May 31, 2014, 12:46:04 AM
Still better than the rest of Canadian teams. They played well and then just ran into a slightly better team.
You don't say. ;)
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 31, 2014, 03:15:24 AM
Lost Price.
Which is irrelevant because Tokarski played downright solid in his place. The Habs simply couldn't match the Rangers in terms of consistent offense, quality chances and reliable defensive zone play.
Nice to see the Hawks force game 7. What a series.
Wooooooooooooooooo! Chicago holding a 2-1 lead right now in the first period.
Quote from: DCM on June 02, 2014, 12:39:03 AM
Wooooooooooooooooo! Chicago holding a 2-1 lead right now in the first period.
And they lost. What a hard-fought game, though. Not exactly a pretty goal to give the Kings the win.
The SCF should be a doozy!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 02, 2014, 01:54:00 PM
And they lost. What a hard-fought game, though. Not exactly a pretty goal to give the Kings the win.
The SCF should be a doozy!
I careless about the SCF. Don't think I'll be watching maybe as back ground noise. I am more excited to see the Heat repeat again.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 02, 2014, 08:32:05 PM
I careless about the SCF. Don't think I'll be watching maybe as back ground noise. I am more excited to see the Heat repeat again.
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 02, 2014, 08:32:05 PM
I careless about the SCF. Don't think I'll be watching maybe as back ground noise. I am more excited to see the Heat repeat again.
Okay, your loss. The NBA is garbage compared to NHL, IMO.
the heat are going to the what, there 4 straight finals??? and the Spurs again??? same old same old...are there no other good teams in that entire league??
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 03, 2014, 12:57:11 AM
Okay, your loss. The NBA is garbage compared to NHL, IMO.
takes one to know one.
I just like to see LeBron stick it to the man for all the flak he took about "the announcement".
Fun team to watch.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 03, 2014, 07:46:37 PM
I just like to see LeBron stick it to the man for all the flak he took about "the announcement".
i dont see how him winning makes him not a douchebag? :D
Patrick Sharp being shopped.
Quote from: SaxonMiller11 on June 06, 2014, 02:54:17 AM
Patrick Sharp being shopped.
Oh, he'd be nice in a Jets jersey. ;D
Lots of ties to Winnipeg, so it's not really out of the realm of possibility...
The Leafs have interest (of course ..) but if I were the Jets I'd seriously take a look and see how much it would take to pry him out of there. Apparently his attitude was not up to standards and some of his teammates were starting to question his place on the team, which is odd because I never thought of Sharp as a 'me first' kind of guy.
Alas, I'd take him in Winnipeg any day of the week. CHI also shopping Nick Leddy and ... Johnny Oduya.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 03, 2014, 07:46:37 PM
I just like to see LeBron stick it to the man for all the flak he took about "the announcement".
Fun team to watch.
How did you enjoy watching him get carried off the court after his devastating leg cramp? ;D
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on June 07, 2014, 05:50:20 AM
How did you enjoy watching him get carried off the court after his devastating leg cramp? ;D
OH, welcome back Fresh one! I didn't enjoy that. I think they turned off the AC to have that happen.
hours ago .... on a bottom of screen ticker (cannot remember what channel), it was saying
..... Leafs interested in Thorton
R the Sharks putting out feelers ..... makes sense to me
Quote from: Jockitch on June 08, 2014, 01:17:01 AM
hours ago .... on a bottom of screen ticker (cannot remember what channel), it was saying
..... Leafs interested in Thorton
R the Sharks putting out feelers ..... makes sense to me
But the question is , what do they have to loose to gain Thornton ?
Quote from: BlueWonder on June 08, 2014, 01:21:44 AM
But the question is , what do they have to loose to gain Thornton ?
EVERYTHING!
So I have a big update on the "Patrick Sharp Sweepstakes". Winnipeg has put forth interest for the star winger, and the player who Chicago wants back might surprise you:
Andrew Ladd.
Apparently Ladd and Sharp never saw eye-to-eye when they played together, and the Hawks love his grit and leadership qualities. For what it's worth, I would love love love having Sharp here instead of Ladd. Hey, Ladd's a nice dude I get it, but I don't think he should be playing top line minutes -- but Sharp, I do. For all the talk of the Jets moving out Kane, I believe that the Hawks would covet Ladd so much more and if it gets us Patrick Sharp, a possible new face of the franchise, I would consider doing that.
Now, to have some fun, who would be captain if such a thing were to happen? My vote goes to Mark Stuart. Plain and simple.
So, Bomber Nation, what say you?
If the rumours about the Hawks players wanting Sharp gone are true, then no thanks. I'd rather have a solid team guy like Ladd than a potential cancer.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on June 11, 2014, 03:17:27 AM
If the rumours about the Hawks players wanting Sharp gone are true, then no thanks. I'd rather have a solid team guy like Ladd than a potential cancer.
I guess it comes down to why they don't want him, and if you have enough "personality" on your team to make him fit.
Gary Lawless has also proposed the possible buy-out of Mike Richards from LA. Richard's is open to the possibility of playing in Winnipeg. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. ;D
Saw Toews at a restaurant today. Dudes not that big. Little taller same weight as me. He was there alone. I got my signed jersey confirmed from him though. A buddy got to signed for me and just wanted to make sure it was his signature.
He was pleasant.
Sharp and Richards would be solid acquisitions, IMO. Some respected and skilled veteran talent would help the stable of prospects and younger players on this team.
kings are apparently not planning to buy out Richards...but i think thats just talk so hes not distracted...im sure they will buy him out...not sure if we would want him though...he would be a 2nd line center here for sure
Quote from: AngryGreg on June 12, 2014, 07:05:20 PM
kings are apparently not planning to buy out Richards...but i think thats just talk so hes not distracted...im sure they will buy him out...not sure if we would want him though...he would be a 2nd line center here for sure
Scheifele, Richards and Little sounds a lot better than Scheifele, Little, and whoever is the third line centre next year, IMO.
Quote from: SaxonMiller11 on June 12, 2014, 07:07:10 PM
Scheifele, Richards and Little sounds a lot better than Scheifele, Little, and whoever is the third line centre next year, IMO.
well Richards play has certainly gone downhill the last couple of seasons, a change of scenary could help him...and being close to home
Congratulations to the LA Kings.
The playoffs this season have to go down in history as one of the best. Outstanding hockey.
That was just magnificent hockey. Spectacular, spectacular hockey. Wow. Congrats to the LA Kings, no team more deserving!
Awesome game last night.
The Kings, like the Hawks, are going to be very hard to knock off the hill for several more years to come.
What a game last night! OT in particular was just incredible.
Quote from: Nic16 on June 14, 2014, 03:31:38 PM
The Kings, like the Hawks, are going to be very hard to knock off the hill for several more years to come.
Only if they are able to re-sign key players this year and next.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on June 15, 2014, 08:38:41 AM
Only if they are able to re-sign key players this year and next.
I fully expect them to make the necessary roster adjustments to ensure they are able to re-sign the majority of their core of star players. Add in the depth they have managed to build up and these 2 teams are loaded up for a Detroit Red Wing type of run.
And even worse news for the Jets is... the Blues, Avs, Wild, Ducks, Sharks, and Stars are right behind the top 2 in the West when it comes to team depth.
Chevy + PMo have their work cut out for themselves if they want to make the playoffs in the west any time soon.
the Kings core is already locked up for at least the next 2 seasons.....Kopitar for 2 seasons, Doughty/Brown/Quick/Carter locked up long term, they only need to worry about Williams and Stoll after next year
If they buy-out Richards they will have plenty of cash to sign them both long term ...especially with the cap rise expected to hit 70mil this season
Avs file for arbitration with O'Reilly
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=454904
Quote from: AngryGreg on June 15, 2014, 05:00:30 PM
the Kings core is already locked up for at least the next 2 seasons.....Kopitar for 2 seasons, Doughty/Brown/Quick/Carter locked up long term, they only need to worry about Williams and Stoll after next year
If they buy-out Richards they will have plenty of cash to sign them both long term ...especially with the cap rise expected to hit 70mil this season
The Kings are in good shape going forward. It will be interesting to see what the Hawks will look like after the extensions for Kane & Toews kick in.
Quote from: sweep the leg on June 16, 2014, 12:28:21 AM
It will be interesting to see what the Hawks will look like after the extensions for Kane & Toews kick in.
They still have to sign them to extensions.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie ? 2h
I don't think it's very far down road, if at all, but my sense is WPG much more open to considering trade for any player, incl Evander Kane.
But what does he know.
Quote from: RoseBud on June 16, 2014, 05:53:47 PM
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie ? 2h
I don't think it's very far down road, if at all, but my sense is WPG much more open to considering trade for any player, incl Evander Kane.
But what does he know.
His sense? Okay... And? Perhaps for the right price, the Jets would entertain the idea of trading Kane. McKenzie can speculate on that all he wants, along with the rest of us.
Quote from: Canada_44 on June 16, 2014, 05:53:47 PM
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie ? 2h
I don't think it's very far down road, if at all, but my sense is WPG much more open to considering trade for any player, incl Evander Kane.
But what does he know.
Im gonna guess not much but pretends to know alot.
CHI offers Sharp, Rozsival, prospect Adam Clendening and their 1st round pick to FLA for the #1 overall pick and Erik Gudbranson.
Now we wait.
Quote from: SaxonMiller11 on June 27, 2014, 05:06:00 PM
CHI offers Sharp, Rozsival, prospect Adam Clendening and their 1st round pick to FLA for the #1 overall pick and Erik Gudbranson.
Now we wait.
IF that is the offer, Tallon should just hang up...this offer is an insult.
Ekblad & Goodbrandson are both future top 2 pairing D.
The Canucks start the re-build by dealing Kesler to the Ducks.
Bonino & ?? Go to Vancouver.
Quote from: Nic16 on June 27, 2014, 06:12:04 PM
The Canucks start the re-build by dealing Kesler to the Ducks.
Bonino & ?? Go to Vancouver.
Sbisa and 24th pick. Nice move the Canucks.
Chris Johnston @reporterchris 6m
Per @capgeek, the impact of Tim Gleason buyout on #leafs salary cap is: $833,333 next season then $1.83M, $1.33M and $1.33M. (Avg $1.33M)
Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger 23m
"@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Tim Gleason, Anton Volchenkov and Shane O'Brien put on unconditional waivers today". Jovo also cleared.
we need to sign a Vanek-type player...we're 10 goals shy of making the playoffs >:(
Spezza dealt to the Dallas stars
Stastny a Blue...4 years @ 7mil ...no surprise
Cammalleri a Devil
Raymond a flame...good signing, got him on the cheap
Bolland signs with Florida....Leafs losing out on Free Agency Day
Leafs may sign Broduer...TSN will hearld them as the Free agency winners!!
Hemsky a Star....Jets left out in the dust...very little chance of making the playoffs as two division teams stack up on offense
Miller a canuck..this was expected as well
Montoya a Panther..makes way for Hutchinson i suppose
Gionta a Sabre
not alot left out there...Brad Richards, Vrbata, Derek Roy and Vanek some of the notables.....hoping the Devils get at least one of these guys...likely Richards
Vanek to Minni
ya...Jets in big trouble this season
Gah the central division is going to be tougher this season. Still some good players on the board though in BRich, Vrbata, Ott and Roy.
Moulson down to the devils and sabres apparently
moulsson a sabre
my guess ........ Niskanen ends in Detroit
Jerome to Colorado .
trading ryder and signing vrbata would really cap this day off for the devils!
Jets are in real trouble.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 01, 2014, 07:32:35 PM
Jets are in real trouble.
ya...everyone around them seemed to get better
Richards a Blackhawk
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 02, 2014, 01:14:22 AM
ugh!
and they got him for a steal...hes no dummy, he wants a chance to win..hes already made his riches
Iginla and Redmond to Colorado is music to this Avs fan's ears. Arguably the best top 9 in the league, even after the departure of Stastny. Wooh!
Some teams may have to have a fire sale to get under the cap. Chicago and Philadelphia are both over now.
from what i see Philly has 7mil in capspace still
Capgeek had them a little over $1m over when I looked.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on July 02, 2014, 12:38:02 PM
Capgeek had them a little over $1m over when I looked.
maybe that included Pronger's salary...which comes off the books once the season starts i believe
Quote from: AngryGreg on July 02, 2014, 01:28:46 PM
maybe that included Pronger's salary...which comes off the books once the season starts i believe
http://www.capgeek.com/flyers/
ya it includes Prongers. 4.9 in the math.
i like the nhlnumbers.com site
Crazy to see the ex-Penguin dmen getting those big contracts. Nearly $3M/yr for Engelland? That's crazy. Orpik got paid for his reputation. He's not the player he was a few years ago and he's going downhill fast. His style of play is breaking him down. Niskanen's deal will be ok if he can continue to play like he did last season. It's pretty risky though to pay a guy based on one good year.
The best two contracts were Richards & Ehrhoff. Both guys took way under market value. Two worst contracts were Engelland & Bolland.
Quote from: sweep the leg on July 02, 2014, 01:58:41 PM
Crazy to see the ex-Penguin dmen getting those big contracts. Nearly $3M/yr for Engelland? That's crazy. Orpik got paid for his reputation. He's not the player he was a few years ago and he's going downhill fast. His style of play is breaking him down. Niskanen's deal will be ok if he can continue to play like he did last season. It's pretty risky though to pay a guy based on one good year.
The best two contracts were Richards & Ehrhoff. Both guys took way under market value. Two worst contracts were Engelland & Bolland.
the booland one is pretty rough...we overpaid slightly for Cammalerri, but lou said if you want something you have to overpay and give longer term..it is what it is
the Wild got a pretty good deal for Vanek...that was his opportunity for a long, bloated contract
Quote from: AngryGreg on July 02, 2014, 02:03:14 PM
the booland one is pretty rough...we overpaid slightly for Cammalerri, but lou said if you want something you have to overpay and give longer term..it is what it is
the Wild got a pretty good deal for Vanek...that was his opportunity for a long, bloated contract
Yeah, I didn't think Cammalerri's was very good, but the Havlat deal was ok. Not much money for a potentially decent return.
I was happy to see the Pens re-sign Goc. He's a very good 4th line centre. The Pens really needed bottom six guys who are legit NHLers and they got a couple in Goc & Comeau. Technically Goc was a Pen last year, but he got hurt early and barely played for them.
Hawks really wanting to trade Sharp...or dump his salary, whatever youd like to call it...trying to get under the cap and make room for 2 gigantic extensions
Philadelphia Flyers star Claude Giroux spent the night in an Ottawa Police cell after an incident involving a police officer, sources tell the Sun.
Although few details were immediately available, a source said Giroux was arrested for repeatedly grabbing the buttocks of a male police officer. Alcohol is believed to have been involved.
The incident occurred at a bar in the Byward Market the source said.
Ottawa Police have refused any comment on the incident. Police said they cannot comment unless charges are laid, but several sources did confirm to the Sun Giroux spent the night in jail.
Sources say he is expected to be released without any criminal charges.
The 26-year-old Giroux was reportedly seen inside a police cruiser in Ottawa sometime around 9 p.m. on July 1. A Twitter post by shaheed09 reads "Claude Giroux in the back of a cop car downtown ottawa". it was posted to Twitter Tuesday at 9:19 p.m.
:D oh boy. he is going to get some good razzing in the locker room.
I guess the cop will get the last laugh as Giroux is going to hear it in the dressing room, on the ice and from the fans.
Please kids learn from this dumb-dumb move. :-[
Quote from: Ziggy66 on July 02, 2014, 03:18:25 PM
Philadelphia Flyers star Claude Giroux spent the night in an Ottawa Police cell after an incident involving a police officer, sources tell the Sun.
Although few details were immediately available, a source said Giroux was arrested for repeatedly grabbing the buttocks of a male police officer. Alcohol is believed to have been involved.
The incident occurred at a bar in the Byward Market the source said.
Ottawa Police have refused any comment on the incident. Police said they cannot comment unless charges are laid, but several sources did confirm to the Sun Giroux spent the night in jail.
Sources say he is expected to be released without any criminal charges.
The 26-year-old Giroux was reportedly seen inside a police cruiser in Ottawa sometime around 9 p.m. on July 1. A Twitter post by shaheed09 reads "Claude Giroux in the back of a cop car downtown ottawa". it was posted to Twitter Tuesday at 9:19 p.m.
:D oh boy. he is going to get some good razzing in the locker room.
Any guesses what it will be like when he's on the ice? 50x worse, I suspect.
Mike Brown, Adam Burish, John Scott, Tye McGinn. If we combine their powers, I think you've got a solid 4th line ECHL player right there.
David Legwand signed with the Ottawa Senators today.
Toews and Kane re-upped by the Hawks:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=456795 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=456795)
The Blackhawks announced Wednesday they had reached eight-year extensions with two of their top performers... Each contract is worth $84 million for an average annual value of $10.5 million
Well, Heatley is not signing with the Jets. He took a one year, $1 million deal with the Ducks.
Do we trade Kane now or during the year which do you think would provide the best return?
I say before the year begins.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 13, 2014, 10:28:26 PM
Do we trade Kane now or during the year which do you think would provide the best return?
I say before the year begins.
Unless the return is beneficial, we'll see Kane suit up for the Jets in a few months.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 13, 2014, 10:50:20 PM
Unless the return is beneficial, we'll see Kane suit up for the Jets in a few months.
i didn't mind all his antics but enoughs enough already. Either the guy has minor mental issues socially or his hottie chick is in his ear about not wanting him playing in winnipeg or both.
Dude can't control what comes out of his mouth.
Let's face it he's an enigma
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 13, 2014, 10:57:52 PM
i didn't mind all his antics but enoughs enough already. Either the guy has minor mental issues socially or his hottie chick is in his ear about not wanting him playing in winnipeg or both.
Dude can't control what comes out of his mouth.
Let's face it he's an enigma
That still doesn't address my point: unless the return is good for the Jets, Cheveldayoff won't trade him unless Kane definitively says he wants out.
He's not the only pro athlete with attitude problems.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 13, 2014, 10:57:52 PM
i didn't mind all his antics but enoughs enough already. Either the guy has minor mental issues socially or his hottie chick is in his ear about not wanting him playing in winnipeg or both.
Dude can't control what comes out of his mouth.
Let's face it he's an enigma
While I'm sure he's tired of dealing with the way Winnipeggers treat him and wouldn't mind a change of scenery, half of what he says/tweets/does seems like he is just screwing with the Winnipeg media.
Quote from: Colton on July 14, 2014, 12:41:46 AM
While I'm sure he's tired of dealing with the way Winnipeggers treat him and wouldn't mind a change of scenery, half of what he says/tweets/does seems like he is just screwing with the Winnipeg media.
he ain't screwing with nothing other than his own reputation! We treat him fine. He's is just high maintenance but of a diva.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 14, 2014, 12:51:25 AM
he ain't screwing with nothing other than his own reputation! We treat him fine. He's is just high maintenance but of a diva.
I see him as an extremely talented hockey player, but to each their own.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 14, 2014, 12:51:25 AM
he ain't screwing with nothing other than his own reputation! We treat him fine. He's is just high maintenance but of a diva.
Such nonsense, that. He's been targeted by this fanbase since he got here in 2011.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 14, 2014, 01:31:57 PM
Such nonsense, that. He's been targeted by this fanbase since he got here in 2011.
I'd argue it started well before he even got here. I remember him getting hate before the team was even named.
Quote from: Colton on July 14, 2014, 05:21:13 PM
I'd argue it started well before he even got here. I remember him getting hate before the team was even named.
Fair point. A lot of people seem to find it easy to hate this kid. And that's too bad.
Ya i agree with 84 and Colton. Its a bunch of nonsense.
If Kane was any kind of real problem in the room or anywhere Maurice would have asked Chevy to move him.
I also agree with what Colton said about him screwing with the media.. Kane no doubt likes to be talked about and he likes to feed the fire IMO.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on July 14, 2014, 06:05:14 PM
Ya i agree with 84 and Colton. Its a bunch of nonsense.
I also agree with what Colton said about him screwing with the media.. Kane no doubt likes to be talked about and he likes to feed the fire IMO.
It's not completely nonsense. He's a polarizing guy. "feeding the fire" as you put it is reason enough for some people to not like him. He's making things tougher for his team with some of the things he says/tweets. Favouriting that tweet about Philly may have been nothing but a joke for him, but Chevy probably doesn't find it funny having to answer for it.
A lot of the personal stuff is hard to comment on b/c I have no idea what's true and what isn't.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on July 14, 2014, 06:05:14 PM
If Kane was any kind of real problem in the room or anywhere Maurice would have asked Chevy to move him.
Not necessarily. A coach will try much harder to work with somebody they think is a trouble maker if that guy has talent. For example, if Tyler Wright was doing the same things Kane was he wouldn't have lasted very long.
Kane's also been a healthy scratch twice. That has to make you think that he's been at least somewhat of a problem at times.
Quote from: sweep the leg on July 14, 2014, 06:58:44 PM
It's not completely nonsense. He's a polarizing guy. "feeding the fire" as you put it is reason enough for some people to not like him. He's making things tougher for his team with some of the things he says/tweets. Favouriting that tweet about Philly may have been nothing but a joke for him, but Chevy probably doesn't find it funny having to answer for it.
A lot of the personal stuff is hard to comment on b/c I have no idea what's true and what isn't.
Not necessarily. A coach will try much harder to work with somebody they think is a trouble maker if that guy has talent. For example, if Tyler Wright was doing the same things Kane was he wouldn't have lasted very long.
Kane's also been a healthy scratch twice. That has to make you think that he's been at least somewhat of a problem at times.
All fair and valid points. Kane is a polarizing character and that off-ice stuff seems to get magnified when he or the team isn't doing well on the ice. But who is Tyler Wright...? Do you mean James Wright?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 14, 2014, 08:16:42 PM
All fair and valid points. Kane is a polarizing character and that off-ice stuff seems to get magnified when he or the team isn't doing well on the ice. But who is Tyler Wright...? Do you mean James Wright?
I did mean James Wright. Tyler Wright is a retired NHLer.
Quote from: sweep the leg on July 14, 2014, 06:58:44 PM
It's not completely nonsense. He's a polarizing guy. "feeding the fire" as you put it is reason enough for some people to not like him. He's making things tougher for his team with some of the things he says/tweets. Favouriting that tweet about Philly may have been nothing but a joke for him, but Chevy probably doesn't find it funny having to answer for it.
A lot of the personal stuff is hard to comment on b/c I have no idea what's true and what isn't.
Not necessarily. A coach will try much harder to work with somebody they think is a trouble maker if that guy has talent. For example, if Tyler Wright was doing the same things Kane was he wouldn't have lasted very long.
Kane's also been a healthy scratch twice. That has to make you think that he's been at least somewhat of a problem at times.
Good points.... and your right he is a polarizing guy and hes prolly not to concerned about who likes him and who dont. I cant really say if things he says or tweets make thing tougher on the team but my thought would be if they are it would be dealt with in some manner. I dont think Chevy is to thrilled about things he says and tweets but im sure he knows what hes got with Kane and the things hes going to do and say he will be question about and understands it just something that come with the job sometimes.
I thought when he was a healthy scratch that was under Noel still?
Quote from: sweep the leg on July 14, 2014, 08:20:21 PM
I did mean James Wright. Tyler Wright is a retired NHLer.
That's what I thought. And yes, he is. I have his Upper Deck "Young Gunz" card. LOL ;D
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on July 14, 2014, 08:48:58 PM
I thought when he was a healthy scratch that was under Noel still?
Once under Noel & once under Maurice. Noel denied he was a healthy scratch though. It was Kane who said that.
Quote from: sweep the leg on July 14, 2014, 08:53:36 PM
Once under Noel & once under Maurice. Noel denied he was a healthy scratch though. It was Kane who said that.
Thx... I remembered it under Noel and now i do remember it under Maurice.... Someone asked him what it would take it get him back on the ice and Maurice asnswer back something like ,,, He needs to show up.
kane needs to go
And the Preds just got a little better...
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=457245 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=457245)
The Nashville Predators added veteran forwards Mike Ribeiro and Derek Roy to one-year deals on Tuesday.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 15, 2014, 04:52:16 PM
And the Preds just got a little better...
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=457245 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=457245)
The Nashville Predators added veteran forwards Mike Ribeiro and Derek Roy to one-year deals on Tuesday.
Ya, the FA signings by our central opponents are just brutal. They went from all being really good to really, really good. I didn't expect to to blow our load in FA, but regardless of our 'plan', being competitive got so much harder.. :-\
Quote from: blue_or_die on July 15, 2014, 05:12:15 PM
Ya, the FA signings by our central opponents are just brutal. They went from all being really good to really, really good. I didn't expect to to blow our load in FA, but regardless of our 'plan', being competitive got so much harder.. :-\
Yeah. The Jets have done the least by a seriously large margin. I really hope Cheveldayoff's got something up his sleeve... :-[
Quote from: blue_or_die on July 15, 2014, 05:12:15 PM
Ya, the FA signings by our central opponents are just brutal. They went from all being really good to really, really good. I didn't expect to to blow our load in FA, but regardless of our 'plan', being competitive got so much harder.. :-\
Roy hasn't been very good for a few years now. His best point total in the past four seasons is 44.
IF Ribeiro has his head on straight he could potentially be a good fit playing with Neal. That's a big if though.
Quote from: blue_or_die on July 15, 2014, 05:12:15 PM
Ya, the FA signings by our central opponents are just brutal. They went from all being really good to really, really good. I didn't expect to to blow our load in FA, but regardless of our 'plan', being competitive got so much harder.. :-\
you have to still be aggressive and go out and get players...this "plan" will never get the Jets anywhere
Quote from: sweep the leg on July 15, 2014, 07:54:59 PM
Roy hasn't been very good for a few years now. His best point total in the past four seasons is 44.
IF Ribeiro has his head on straight he could potentially be a good fit playing with Neal. That's a big if though.
in regards to ribeiro. He will dish the puck to Neal all day. He had his worst season last year which produced 47 pts and which would be top 5 in production for the Jets. the season before he produced over a point per game with washington. Ribeiro is a steal for what Dallas got him for. He doesnt need his head to be on straight to be an impact for some reason which is mind blowing.
I am not at all saying he would fit in with our team at all, but man did Dallas get a great bargin which will produce fantastic results for 1 mill. I cant believe we gave that plug Thorburn 1.2 for 3 years lmao. Its not a horrible contract but still lol.
Quote from: Ziggy66 on July 19, 2014, 05:19:11 PM
in regards to ribeiro. He will dish the puck to Neal all day. He had his worst season last year which produced 47 pts and which would be top 5 in production for the Jets. the season before he produced over a point per game with washington. Ribeiro is a steal for what Dallas got him for. He doesnt need his head to be on straight to be an impact for some reason which is mind blowing.
I am not at all saying he would fit in with our team at all, but man did Dallas get a great bargin which will produce fantastic results for 1 mill. I cant believe we gave that plug Thorburn 1.2 for 3 years lmao. Its not a horrible contract but still lol.
I think you mean Nashville. Their signing of Roy, Ribeiro, and Jokinen should help them this year, and further ease Forsberg and Wilson into the fold.
Quote from: SaxonMiller11 on July 19, 2014, 09:01:36 PM
I think you mean Nashville. Their signing of Roy, Ribeiro, and Jokinen should help them this year, and further ease Forsberg and Wilson into the fold.
Lol yes my bad. Was thinking of when Riberio and Neal playing together on the Stars a few years back and how they were pretty good together. at 1m for Riberio and Neal to be reunited again, disher and sniper.........thats pretty nice.
Quote from: Ziggy66 on July 19, 2014, 09:03:04 PM
Lol yes my bad. Was thinking of when Riberio and Neal playing together on the Stars a few years back and how they were pretty good together. at 1m for Riberio and Neal to be reunited again, disher and sniper.........thats pretty nice.
If he doesn't change his attitude, the Preds payed $1M to bring a massive distraction into their locker room.
I hate Ribeiro so my opinion on the matter is heavily biased, but you have to factor in that he was just bought out by a team that isn't facing any sort of cap issues.
Quote from: Colton on July 19, 2014, 10:37:02 PM
If he doesn't change his attitude, the Preds payed $1M to bring a massive distraction into their locker room.
I hate Ribeiro so my opinion on the matter is heavily biased, but you have to factor in that he was just bought out by a team that isn't facing any sort of cap issues.
1 million for a gamble on 40 points plus, a PP quarterback and a guy who may be able to dish Neal the puck imo is a decent trade off. If he doesnt pan out then you bury him in the AHL with no real worries about his salary at all.
I dont mind him. I have watched him play for quiet a while and enjoy his game on the ice. The guy is slick, can play hard and be a bit of a pest when he wants.
[TOR] Maple Leafs Sign F Daniel Winnik [1 year]
1.3 Mill or something in that ball park.
8 years 72 mil for Subban? Ouch...
Subban got what seemed the proper rate for a "super star".
Good luck to him & mgt., should he falter & just be average in too many games.
9 mil a year? Is there anyone who gets more?
Quote from: theaardvark on August 03, 2014, 05:49:36 AM
9 mil a year? Is there anyone who gets more?
Ovechkin (9.54) and Malkin(9.5) make more annual average.
In terms of actual salary, he'll make 7 million this year, and as much as 11M a year in a few years. The highest yearly salary belongs to Weber with 14M from 2012 to 2016
after next season both Kane and Toews will be highest
holy some team in Finland is offering Selanne 10mil to play next season....5mil just to play home games :o
Quote from: AngryGreg on August 07, 2014, 02:32:04 PM
holy some team in Finland is offering Selanne 10mil to play next season....5mil just to play home games :o
I don't believe that was true.
https://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iltalehti.fi%2Fkhl%2F2014080718550263_jr.shtml&edit-text=&act=url
Quote from: Colton on August 07, 2014, 09:00:00 PM
I don't believe that was true.
https://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iltalehti.fi%2Fkhl%2F2014080718550263_jr.shtml&edit-text=&act=url
dont know...got my info off the internet just like you
Quote from: AngryGreg on August 07, 2014, 09:09:20 PM
dont know...got my info off the internet just like you
From what I read the rumour came from a tabloid. I'll take the word of Jukka Kohonen over a tabloid.
the word i got was from the Score
we will see over the next week or so if Tootoo still has game and can crack the Devils line-up
Johansen signs extension with Blue Jackets:
http://www.tsn.ca/blue-jackets-johansen-agree-to-terms-on-three-year-12m-contract-1.100225 (http://www.tsn.ca/blue-jackets-johansen-agree-to-terms-on-three-year-12m-contract-1.100225)
The Columbus Blue Jackets announced on Monday that they have agreed to terms on a three-year, $12 million contract with restricted free agent forward Ryan Johansen.
Real good deal for Columbus ....... cuz I believe this player is only to get better.
Quote from: Jockitch on October 06, 2014, 04:47:18 PM
Real good deal for Columbus ....... cuz I believe this player is only to get better.
so sick of hearing about this guy like he is the 2nd coming of ******...he better win the rocket richard trophy this year for all the attention he recieved...also im not so sure Columbus would have made a deal with him...i think they panicked with 3 of there stars out of the line up ...Dubinksy, Jenner and Horton are all sidelined...hope this kid has an amazing season, cause alot of eyes will be on him..no pressure
Devils have signed Tootoo to a 1 one year deal..thats 3 Manitobans on NJ's roster 8)
my guess is that the jets would be thrilled if they were able to sign Johanson for 4M per.
He may never reach the elevated stats of the top 10 - 15 players until some of the other young players with Columbus can also excel....
...... but guessing he is good for 65 - 75 pts this year.
Johansen will be fine. The Jackets could surprise the league this year, IMO.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 09, 2014, 01:04:02 PM
Johansen will be fine. The Jackets could surprise the league this year, IMO.
they already did last year....and possibly this year had there injuries not already mounted up
all 30 teams in action tonight....GO DEVILS!!! 8)
Devils already have 5 goals tonight ........ offensive power this year ????
Quote from: Jockitch on October 12, 2014, 12:37:33 AM
Devils already have 5 goals tonight ........ offensive power this year ????
apparently....11 goals in 2 games :o :D
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 09, 2014, 10:17:01 PM
they already did last year....and possibly this year had there injuries not already mounted up
Well, they're doing alright so far.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 12, 2014, 04:36:26 AM
Well, they're doing alright so far.
yup..off to a good start
took 7 periods for the Avs to score there first goal....nice :)
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 13, 2014, 06:09:46 PM
took 7 periods for the Avs to score there first goal....nice :)
LOL As much as i like it.... it wont continue.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on October 13, 2014, 06:16:34 PM
LOL As much as i like it.... it wont continue.
no...i just want to see Roy loose his cool...and they clearly are missing Stastny
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 13, 2014, 06:19:34 PM
no...i just want to see Roy loose his cool...and they clearly are missing Stastny
HA
Ya they are.... they have alot of fire power for sure. I hope they struggle but im not betting on it.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on October 13, 2014, 06:28:30 PM
HA
Ya they are.... they have alot of fire power for sure. I hope they struggle but im not betting on it.
another loss today would be perfect
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 13, 2014, 06:29:00 PM
another loss today would be perfect
Ya..
I dont think Boston is going to do well this year. Have a feeling this will be a bad year for them.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on October 13, 2014, 06:34:11 PM
Ya..
I dont think Boston is going to do well this year. Have a feeling this will be a bad year for them.
the best thing they got going is Bergeron and Rask
Devils knock off the lightning...what a great start to the season 8)
Devils lose to there rivals NY.
Senators - Leafs game postponed due to events in Ottawa today:
http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-senators-game-postponed-after-shootings-in-ottawa-1.113197 (http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-senators-game-postponed-after-shootings-in-ottawa-1.113197)
no surprise there
Still feel for the people whom it truly effected.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 22, 2014, 11:12:50 PM
no surprise there
Still feel for the people whom it truly effected.
Absolutely. Scary, scary stuff.
Devils defenseman Damon Severson is tied for first in the rookie scoring race...lots of positives this early in the season
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 26, 2014, 01:40:21 PM
Devils defenseman Damon Severson is tied for first in the rookie scoring race...lots of positives this early in the season
Jets vs. Devils time!
Not only was this a penalty for the Wings, it also negated a goal for the Wings:
http://gfycat.com/UnimportantFlashyAcaciarat (http://gfycat.com/UnimportantFlashyAcaciarat)
Absolutely unbelievable.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 29, 2014, 11:06:50 PM
Not only was this a penalty for the Wings, it also negated a goal for the Wings:
http://gfycat.com/UnimportantFlashyAcaciarat (http://gfycat.com/UnimportantFlashyAcaciarat)
Absolutely unbelievable.
I don't feel sorry for them whatsoever after last seasons goal against LA.
Quote from: Colton on October 29, 2014, 11:15:33 PM
I don't feel sorry for them whatsoever after last seasons goal against LA.
Ah, such sound logic. ::)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 29, 2014, 11:19:49 PM
Ah, such sound logic. ::)
Do you want me to grieve for their lost goal or something?
They had a bad call go against them. Boo hoo, welcome to the NHL.
Quote from: Colton on October 29, 2014, 11:45:53 PM
Do you want me to grieve for their lost goal or something?
They had a bad call go against them. Boo hoo, welcome to the NHL.
No. Chill out, man. ::)
And it was a
really bad call. I was just pointing it out. Sheesh.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 29, 2014, 11:59:13 PM
No. Chill out, man. ::)
And it was a really bad call. I was just pointing it out. Sheesh.
As I was just pointing out they had a
really bad call go their way last season.
You didn't have to get all sarcastic about it.
Quote from: Colton on October 30, 2014, 12:05:30 AM
As I was just pointing out they had a really bad call go their way last season.
You didn't have to get all sarcastic about it.
Who cares what happened last season...? How is it relevant to this one?
Sure I did. It's just a sport. Sarcasm is fun. ;D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 30, 2014, 12:08:25 AM
Who cares what happened last season...? How is it relevant to this one?
Sure I did. It's just a sport. Sarcasm is fun. ;D
I was stating my own personal opinion that I don't feel sorry for them because they had a similar situation unfairly go in their advantage last season. Some people like to call it karma. I don't understand what was so wrong about what I said or why it's irrelevant ???
Quote from: Colton on October 30, 2014, 12:15:48 AM
I was stating my own personal opinion that I don't feel sorry for them because they had a similar situation unfairly go in their advantage last season. Some people like to call it karma. I don't understand what was so wrong about what I said or why it's irrelevant ???
I didn't say it was wrong or that you had to feel sorry. I just don't how it's "karma" or how last season has any bearing in what happens this season regarding a bad penalty and disallowed goal.
No need to get defensive. I wasn't attacking you. :-\
Hopefully Jets win and we can all jump on the "Angry One". :D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 30, 2014, 12:20:42 AM
I didn't say it was wrong or that you had to feel sorry. I just don't how it's "karma" or how last season has any bearing in what happens this season regarding a bad penalty and disallowed goal.
No need to get defensive. I wasn't attacking you. :-\
Possibly the strangest argument I've ever read.
Quote from: sweep the leg on October 30, 2014, 12:58:42 PM
Possibly the strangest argument I've ever read.
And that's saying a lot on this forum! ;D
Big win for the Red Wings last night. And I must say the Predators look like a solid team this season.
That disallowed goal last night really was awful. It wasn't even that close that at least one of the officials couldn't have seen what happened.
The Flyers equipment guy pranked his team. :D
http://video.flyers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=658641
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 30, 2014, 11:47:27 AM
Hopefully Jets win and we can all jump on the "Angry One". :D
we will see what happens tomorrow...got my tickets!!
so far my record when I attend Devils games is 2-2 :-\
Quote from: AngryGreg on November 17, 2014, 03:36:20 PM
we will see what happens tomorrow...got my tickets!!
so far my record when I attend Devils games is 2-2 :-\
You're like the Kevin Glenn of Devils fans, eh. ;D
Anyways, this has been a really exciting season so far. Lots of fun games already and we're barely 20 games in.
wow..nobody mentioned marty playing for another team? :P
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 06, 2014, 06:26:46 PM
wow..nobody mentioned marty playing for another team? :P
Seems nobody gives a rats arse. LOL
How them Devils doing? Oh wait..... Nobody care bout that either.
;D ;)
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 06, 2014, 06:30:39 PM
Seems nobody gives a rats arse. LOL
How them Devils doing? Oh wait..... Nobody care bout that either.
;D ;)
well..it was quite the buzz in the hockey world...
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 06, 2014, 06:34:47 PM
well..it was quite the buzz in the hockey world...
Blah.... Not really.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 06, 2014, 06:37:18 PM
Blah.... Not really.
oh...i didnt realize you were at the epi center of the hockey world lol ...noone was talking about it at the Fox&Hound so it doesnt matter? :D
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 06, 2014, 06:38:47 PM
oh...i didnt realize you were at the epi center of the hockey world lol ...noone was talking about it at the Fox&Hound so it doesnt matter? :D
LMAO.
Check with me first next time. ;D
This is absolutely brutal.
QuoteJonathan Bernier in the receiving line at a Nelson Mandela Foundation event The Giant of Africa
Reporter1 (SportsNet mic): Alright Jonathan, how important is, uh, the legacy of Nelson Mandela to you?
JB: Well obviously he's been, uh, a tremendous, uh, athlete and you know obviously what, uh, he means to all the sports you know when you know the worl- the world can uh be changed by the sports it's pretty amazing. And I think he's definitely uh got a lot of respect in every sports and uh he's definitely one of the athletes I watched growing up as well.
Reporter1's mic disappears from frame
Reporter2: Why is it important for you to come show support tonight?
JB: Well I think any good cause is, uh, sorry (he's apologizing to someone to the left of the screen, not sure who/why), it's always, uh, you know I love supporting, uh, any kind of cause obviously it's for the Afri-, in Africa it's obviously it's, uh, a great cause, and enjoying, I guess, the basketball game.
Reporter2: Thanks.
no hockey player should ever be interviewed for anything ever...they are the worst
I don't understand what the issue is. Don't you all also have fond memories watching Mandela nail 3-pointers and, uh, home runs when you were kids?
Ottawa Senators fired Paul MacLean today.
An NHL coach finally has been fired, and the name is a bit of a surprise.
The Ottawa Senators announced on Twitter Monday that they had fired Paul MacLean. No replacement was immediately announced.
His Senators are a .500 team and just rallied from a 3-0 deficit on Sunday to beat the Vancouver Canucks 4-3 in overtime.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/senators/2014/12/08/paul-maclean-fired-ottawa-senators/20095021/
I'd be thrilled if he replaced McLellan right now.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 08, 2014, 02:17:28 PM
I don't understand what the issue is. Don't you all also have fond memories watching Mandela nail 3-pointers and, uh, home runs when you were kids?
LOLOLOL :D
Quote from: Colton on December 08, 2014, 05:28:04 PM
I'd be thrilled if he replaced McLellan right now.
I can't believe the Sharks lost to the Oilers last night.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 08, 2014, 09:32:09 PM
I can't believe the Sharks lost to the Oilers last night.
I put money on the Oilers beating the Sharks for their first Western Conference win about 2 and a half weeks ago. I was very confident it would happen.
why is Bettman so hell bent on expanding to Las Vegas :D :D in some respects hes been a great commissioner...but i dont get this idea at all
This is not a time for expansion, IMO. It's time to relocate the failing franchises already.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 08, 2014, 10:08:41 PM
This is not a time for expansion, IMO. It's time to relocate the failing franchises already.
agreed...Florida and Arizona need to go....move the Coyotes to Canada already...i am sick of hearing about them!!!
Panthers to QC, Coyotes to Seattle or something.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 08, 2014, 10:54:10 PM
Panthers to QC, Coyotes to Seattle or something.
ya....i heard the people in Quebec dont quite have there act together just yet...but there close
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 08, 2014, 11:07:47 PM
ya....i heard the people in Quebec dont quite have there act together just yet...but there close
Any word on the state of the arena they're building? What about the one in Markham?
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 09, 2014, 02:15:36 PM
Any word on the state of the arena they're building? What about the one in Markham?
I believe the QC arena is supposed to be done late 2015. I thought I heard that the Markham arena deal fell through, but not 100% sure on that one.
this could very well be Lou's last season :'(
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 03:25:41 PM
this could very well be Lou's last season :'(
Anything good in the system?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 03:39:26 PM
Anything good in the system?
well... pretty much our whole D corps is between 22-25 yrs old and they locked up our goalie, so in that end of the ice, things look optimistic...not alot in terms of forwards...a few guys here and there
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 03:41:54 PM
well... pretty much our whole D corps is between 22-25 yrs old and they locked up our goalie, so in that end of the ice, things look optimistic...not alot in terms of forwards...a few guys here and there
When i first heard about that 300mil dept or whatever it was i kinda wondered if that would somehow effect the team
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 03:46:21 PM
When i first heard about that 300mil dept or whatever it was i kinda wondered if that would somehow effect the team
thats had nothing to do with it...the Devils have thrown money at numerous players
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 03:47:03 PM
thats had nothing to do with it...the Devils have thrown money at numerous players
Not the right ones it seems.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 03:48:00 PM
Not the right ones it seems.
no...there have been a few mistakes for sure..its been difficult to replace 2 NHL stars in Kovalchuk and Parise...they've never been able to replace them
but i guess we will see this off-season if Lou has anything left....hes already in the HOF and is creditied with building one of the most successful franchises in the NHL over the past 20 years, and that wasnt by fluke lol
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 03:49:04 PM
no...there have been a few mistakes for sure..its been difficult to replace 2 NHL stars in Kovalchuk and Parise...they've never been able to replace them
Ya
I find it hard to believe tho that that 300mil thing didnt somehow effect the team. Thats alot of cash to absorb without it having some effect.
Who knows.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 03:52:43 PM
Ya
I find it hard to believe tho that that 300mil thing didnt somehow effect the team. Thats alot of cash to absorb without it having some effect.
Who knows.
but they've spent right up to the Cap limit..so what could it have affected?
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 03:51:09 PM
but i guess we will see this off-season if Lou has anything left....hes already in the HOF and is creditied with building one of the most successful franchises in the NHL over the past 20 years, and that wasnt by fluke lol
Maybe its time to change it up.
Hes done well no doubt about it.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 03:54:07 PM
Maybe its time to change it up.
Hes done well no doubt about it.
im thinking so ....it will be nice for the team to shred a bunch of salary at the end of this season ....start fresh
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
but they've spent right up to the Cap limit..so what could it have affected?
Holy... I just looked at the roster ... Thats messed up if thats what hes spent up to the cap on.
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
im thinking so ....it will be nice for the team to shred a bunch of salary at the end of this season ....start fresh
What the hell did he spend that money on?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 03:56:34 PM
Holy... I just looked at the roster ... Thats messed up if thats what hes spent up to the cap on.
oh..its not pretty....some of those guys...Clowe, Ryder were signed when the NHL as a whole spent a record amount of money during the FA period, so it wasnt just Lou being stupid, he took achance on a couple of players and had to pay top price because the market demanded that...they just didnt work....Ryder wont be resigned and Clowe is pretty much done
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 03:59:02 PM
What the hell did he spend that money on?
well..Jagr and Zidlicky make almost 9 million between the two of them, including bonuses....Clowe makes nearly 5mil, and Ryder is in at 3.5...Salvador wont be resinged and he makes around 3mil...so thats like 20 mil that will be gone after the season lol
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 04:00:19 PM
oh..its not pretty....some of those guys...Clowe, Ryder were signed when the NHL as a whole spent a record amount of money during the FA period, so it wasnt just Lou being stupid, he took achance on a couple of players and had to pay top price because the market demanded that...they just didnt work....Ryder wont be resigned and Clowe is pretty much done
Wont have to trade them?
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 04:01:42 PM
well..Jagr and Zidlicky make almost 9 million between the two of them, including bonuses....Clowe makes nearly 5mil, and Ryder is in at 3.5...Salvador wont be resinged and he makes around 3mil...so thats like 20 mil that will be gone after the season lol
Thats a ton o cash for nuffin.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 04:03:05 PM
Wont have to trade them?
you want them? :D clowe is out with another concussion...like his 5 in the past couple of years...im thinking he needs to retire..someone might want Ryder for a 2nd or 3rd rounder :-\
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 04:04:00 PM
Thats a ton o cash for nuffin.
well...Jagr is still a beast...and last season Zidlicky had a good year, but hes trailed off now
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 04:04:51 PM
you want them? :D clowe is out with another concussion...like his 5 in the past couple of years...im thinking he needs to retire..someone might want Ryder for a 2nd or 3rd rounder :-\
Good grief... No thanks.
Ill take our roster over that lot any day.
Even Kane must be lookin pretty good to you bout now.... :D ;D
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 04:13:51 PM
Good grief... No thanks.
Ill take our roster over that lot any day.
Even Kane must be lookin pretty good to you bout now.... :D ;D
ha....no way!
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 04:22:33 PM
ha....no way!
LOL You have to give up your top 2 guys and every 1st n 2nd round pick for him.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 04:30:09 PM
LOL You have to give up your top 2 guys and every 1st n 2nd round pick for him.
and that would make zero sense lol
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 14, 2014, 04:50:04 PM
and that would make zero sense lol
So does spending up to the cap on that roster but it was done. ;D
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 14, 2014, 05:00:20 PM
So does spending up to the cap on that roster but it was done. ;D
well...things happen :P
Dallas Eakins gets fired, Edmonton unveils new logo:
(https://seventytwoeleven.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/oilers.jpg)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 15, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
Dallas Eakins gets fired, Edmonton unveils new logo:
(https://seventytwoeleven.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/oilers.jpg)
Ha
Nice dude.
Poor Eakins apparently he had multiple offers and opted to the lowly Oil :'(
MacTavish is an idiot
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on December 16, 2014, 01:46:00 AM
MacTavish is an idiot
Yes, he is. He should've resigned immediately after canning Eakins.
Devils fired their coach
Quote from: Jockitch on December 26, 2014, 06:04:42 PM
Devils fired their coach
Lamoriello trying to save his own hide... Grinch move a day after Christmas.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 26, 2014, 07:22:17 PM
Lamoriello trying to save his own hide... Grinch move a day after Christmas.
the best xmas present i could get :)
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 26, 2014, 08:47:51 PM
the best xmas present i could get :)
They should hire Eakins.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 26, 2014, 10:22:58 PM
LOL...... Torts?
negative...i would rather have Eakins...Lou would never put up with Tort's shenanigans
Quote from: AngryGreg on December 26, 2014, 10:24:35 PM
negative...i would rather have Eakins...Lou would never put up with Tort's shenanigans
Whats your guess as to who?
Paul MacLean might be good there.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on December 26, 2014, 10:27:07 PM
Whats your guess as to who?
Paul MacLean might be good there.
honestly i really have no clue....twitter was swirling with rumors...Oates/MacLean/Bylsma have been thrown around...even Lemaires name lol....maybe Lou just finishes off the year behind the bench :D
Noel is doing great in Van... does he get another HC look?
Quote from: theaardvark on December 27, 2014, 12:03:38 AM
Noel is doing great in Van... does he get another HC look?
hopefully not with the Devils
rumors are that its Maclean...but thats not confirmed
Lou is going back behind the bench, with Oates coaching forwards and Stevens coaching defense....we now have the first ever in the NHL, offensive and defensive coordinators :D
Lou & a new unique step in his legacy ..... the 3 headed monster coaching staff .... with of course, he & his ego at the middle
Just my thought for some time but Devils needed to move Lou out for a number of years
Quote from: Jockitch on December 27, 2014, 07:52:39 PM
Lou & a new unique step in his legacy ..... the 3 headed monster coaching staff .... with of course, he & his ego at the middle
Just my thought for some time but Devils needed to move Lou out for a number of years
maybe...but its tough to argue with his track record...the drafting hasnt been great lately tho
John Tavares is a nice guy.
It was all smiles at the Fairmont Hotel in Winnipeg on Wednesday morning as 12-year-old Jake Lotocki met his hockey hero John Tavares, captain of the New York Islanders.
Jake and his mother Sue had gone to a Jets game in March and Jake wore his Islanders jersey to the game which New York won.
After the Jets lost, he was bombarded by fans yelling in his face for supporting the Islanders and Jake ended up taking off his jersey and wrapping it up as he left the MTS Centre.
Tavares heard about what happened and felt he had to do something so he got in touch with the Islanders communications department and arranged to have an autographed jersey sent to Jake.
http://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/winnipeg-boy-meets-hockey-hero-after-taunts-from-jets-fans-1.2167973
Quote from: galeforce on December 31, 2014, 09:20:04 PM
John Tavares is a nice guy.
It was all smiles at the Fairmont Hotel in Winnipeg on Wednesday morning as 12-year-old Jake Lotocki met his hockey hero John Tavares, captain of the New York Islanders.
Jake and his mother Sue had gone to a Jets game in March and Jake wore his Islanders jersey to the game which New York won.
After the Jets lost, he was bombarded by fans yelling in his face for supporting the Islanders and Jake ended up taking off his jersey and wrapping it up as he left the MTS Centre.
Tavares heard about what happened and felt he had to do something so he got in touch with the Islanders communications department and arranged to have an autographed jersey sent to Jake.
http://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/winnipeg-boy-meets-hockey-hero-after-taunts-from-jets-fans-1.2167973
An awesome story and classy move by Tavares.
Shame on the "fans" who harassed this kid.
David Perron gets dealt to the Penguins for a first rounder and Rob Klinkhammer.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2015, 05:09:48 PM
David Perron gets dealt to the Penguins for a first rounder and Rob Klinkhammer.
another wasted first rounder for the Oilers
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2015, 05:09:48 PM
David Perron gets dealt to the Penguins for a first rounder and Rob Klinkhammer.
Good deal by a team with a shot at winning the East. This gives Crosby or Malkin a winger with pure offensive skills, and that could be a Pen for a long time.
For the Oilers, Klinkhammer provides size and some offensive potential if he can get his game together. And if they get their scouting in order they could score big with that 1st round pick in what looks to be a very deep 1st round.
Leafs fire Carlyle
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 06, 2015, 03:40:01 PM
That organization is a joke.
Less so now with Carlyle out, unless of course they replace him with someone equally as incompetent, which is always possible.
Quote from: Colton on January 06, 2015, 03:41:12 PM
Less so now with Carlyle out, unless of course they replace him with someone equally as incompetent, which is always possible.
Meh... More incompetence in that organization than just the now fired coach.
Kitty out I'm sure he is ok with that! Lick lick!
Elias records his 1000th NHL point tonight 8)
Quote from: AngryGreg on January 07, 2015, 01:27:37 AM
Elias records his 1000th NHL point tonight 8)
who's Elieas?
Devils should sign Kitty lol
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 07, 2015, 01:33:41 AM
who's Elieas?
Devils should sign Kitty lol
whos kitty? :D
Quote from: AngryGreg on January 07, 2015, 01:38:29 AM
we've met our quota :P
something he has I common with Lou Lou eh
Bit of liquor n smoke and it all makes sense
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 07, 2015, 02:06:16 AM
Bit of liquor n smoke and it all makes sense
really...cause i dont know what the heck is going on :D
Quote from: AngryGreg on January 07, 2015, 02:06:50 AM
really...cause i dont know what the heck is going on :D
Pffft
Wait.
Anyone not see the Kessel interview where he is asked if he is difficult to coach, and he asks the reporter if he thinks its his fault Carlyle got fired, and kept repeating "Is that what your asking?" and then called the reporter an idiot... that's Toronto media, can you imagine if someone like Lawless had been there?
Kessel's hissy-fit was hilarious, but it's got nothing on the Minnesota Wild coach, who went postal on the team at practice this morning.
The day after a heartbreaking overtime loss to the conference-rival San Jose Sharks and the very day Vegas pegged him as a head coach on the hot seat, Mike Yeo snapped on the Minnesota Wild.
According to a series of tweets from Wild beat reporter Micheal Russo, Yeo halted practice Wednesday to tear into his team, which has lost eight of its last 10 games.
He then reportedly made the players bag-skate, then slammed his stick, screamed and stormed off the ice.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/minnesota-wild-mike-yeo-coach-loses-it-practice-hot-seat/
Quote from: galeforce on January 07, 2015, 05:59:59 PM
Kessel's hissy-fit was hilarious, but it's got nothing on the Minnesota Wild coach, who went postal on the team at practice this morning.
The day after a heartbreaking overtime loss to the conference-rival San Jose Sharks and the very day Vegas pegged him as a head coach on the hot seat, Mike Yeo snapped on the Minnesota Wild.
According to a series of tweets from Wild beat reporter Micheal Russo, Yeo halted practice Wednesday to tear into his team, which has lost eight of its last 10 games.
He then reportedly made the players bag-skate, then slammed his stick, screamed and stormed off the ice.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/minnesota-wild-mike-yeo-coach-loses-it-practice-hot-seat/
Bahahahaha... Good. Good. ;D
Jim Toth @JimTothSports
After talking about the Phil Kessel "idiot" comment yesterday I asked #NHLJets Ladd if he knew any idiots "Just one..." #TheDanceContinues
Hmmm... wonder who that could be...
More fuel for the Kessel fire. :D
(The fact that there's 296+ comments says a lot too :D )
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/kelly-trading-phil-kessel-is-the-key-to-a-maple-leafs-rebuild/article22324810/
Quote from: galeforce on January 07, 2015, 08:35:20 PM
More fuel for the Kessel fire. :D
(The fact that there's 296+ comments says a lot too :D )
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/kelly-trading-phil-kessel-is-the-key-to-a-maple-leafs-rebuild/article22324810/
That's just some hosers opinion though right?
Air Canada @AirCanada
Agreed > Kelly: Trading Phil Kessel is the key to the overdue rebuild of Maple Leafs fw.to/A6r9U2V
Great response from Turner...
randy turner @randyturner15
I would never question @AirCanada's approval of the #Leafs trading Phil Kessel. These people are experts at making baggage disappear.
Love the retraction:
Air Canada @AirCanada
Sorry for our earlier mistweet #ACHeartsKessel #SomeOfUsAreHabsFans Veuillez nous excuser pour l'erreur commise un peu plus t?t aujourd'hui
Really...? Trading away one star forward with defensive issues and who's perhaps a coach killer is all that ails the Maple Leafs from being a better team...?
::)
HA
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 08, 2015, 12:08:37 AM
Really...? Trading away one star forward with defensive issues and who's perhaps a coach killer is all that ails the Maple Leafs from being a better team...?
::)
I think that his trade value is pretty low right now, but if they could get any value for him, it would be a huge step to changing the culture.
Toronto and the jersey issue is bugging me.
Throwing anything on the ice during play should be harshly punished, its a player safety thing. No question about that.
But, throwing a jersey on the ice in protest and disappointment, when it does not endanger players, seems to me to be a valid protest. Yes, fans should celebrate their teams, but they should also be able to protest them. Invoking a one year ban on "fans" that throw jersey's on the ice is kinda funny, though. Might actually be doing the fan a favor, saving him from buying tickets to watch a horrible team.
It is a sad thing when a team sinks to this level of fan appreciation. It hasn't been for a lack of spending, or a lack of effort to try and get better. Its just a frustrating failure of their efforts. And you can see it in the team, and their play. Usually a coaching change brings new wind into a teams sails. Not so in Toronto.
They need a change of culture. A big trade or a wholesale change of the lines, something needs to be done, and quick. Maybe even as much as Shannahan firing Nonis and taking over. But to keep on this path, well...
Heh.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 21, 2015, 06:13:57 PM
Toronto and the jersey issue is bugging me.
Throwing anything on the ice during play should be harshly punished, its a player safety thing. No question about that.
But, throwing a jersey on the ice in protest and disappointment, when it does not endanger players, seems to me to be a valid protest. Yes, fans should celebrate their teams, but they should also be able to protest them. Invoking a one year ban on "fans" that throw jersey's on the ice is kinda funny, though. Might actually be doing the fan a favor, saving him from buying tickets to watch a horrible team.
It is a sad thing when a team sinks to this level of fan appreciation. It hasn't been for a lack of spending, or a lack of effort to try and get better. Its just a frustrating failure of their efforts. And you can see it in the team, and their play. Usually a coaching change brings new wind into a teams sails. Not so in Toronto.
They need a change of culture. A big trade or a wholesale change of the lines, something needs to be done, and quick. Maybe even as much as Shannahan firing Nonis and taking over. But to keep on this path, well...
Is this a thing?
I completely agree with your take on it though. If the ice is clear of players/officials, throwing your jersey is a valid protest.
Not one I would do, as I think it's dumb to throw money away like that, and I'm not one to really boo my team, but people certainly have the right to do it as long as it's not a safety issue.
Quote from: Jesse on January 21, 2015, 08:34:03 PM
I completely agree with your take on it though. If the ice is clear of players/officials, throwing your jersey is a valid protest.
The ice wasn't clear of players/officials when the jerseys were thrown. During the Carolina game, jerseys were thrown on the ice 4 times - twice was play was still going on. During the Nashville game, a jersey was thrown while play was on as well.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 21, 2015, 06:13:57 PM
But, throwing a jersey on the ice in protest and disappointment, when it does not endanger players, seems to me to be a valid protest. Yes, fans should celebrate their teams, but they should also be able to protest them. Invoking a one year ban on "fans" that throw jersey's on the ice is kinda funny, though. Might actually be doing the fan a favor, saving him from buying tickets to watch a horrible team.
It is more than a 1 year ban from Leafs games - they are banned from any property owned by MLSE (ACC for Leafs and Raptors, BMO Field for Toronto FC and Maple Leaf Square). And if the "fans" who were banned were season ticket holders of any of those teams they won't find it funny.
@SportsCentre
JUST IN: @LAKings place centre Mike Richards on waivers.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 26, 2015, 04:21:17 PM
@SportsCentre
JUST IN: @LAKings place centre Mike Richards on waivers.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Richards has $5.75M cap hit for 5 seasons after this one. He's being paid $7M this season, $6M, $5.5M, $4.5M, $3M and $3M in remaining yrs.Zero cost in players, but cap room... I wonder how much of his salary teams wanted LA to eat in trade talks.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 26, 2015, 04:38:50 PM
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Richards has $5.75M cap hit for 5 seasons after this one. He's being paid $7M this season, $6M, $5.5M, $4.5M, $3M and $3M in remaining yrs.
Zero cost in players, but cap room... I wonder how much of his salary teams wanted LA to eat in trade talks.
Id have to think atleast half
Not surprising. I have no idea what happened to this guy, one of the biggest drop offs I've seen in some time.
statistically has been bad for about 4 years (this year included)
Another example of the gamble GM's take in these long contracts
Guessing he could look rejuvenated if he was on a line with at least 1 very talented winger. If with 2 sluggos well then a team will get a short check & off style. Hardly worth major moolah
Does clearing waivers make him more attractive in a trade?
Are "compliance buyouts" done with?
Quote from: theaardvark on January 26, 2015, 06:08:22 PM
Does clearing waivers make him more attractive in a trade?
Are "compliance buyouts" done with?
Yes, compliance buyouts ended this past offseason.
Quote from: Colton on January 26, 2015, 06:11:40 PM
Yes, compliance buyouts ended this past offseason.
that'll suck for a bunch of teams
Shoulda bought him out earlier
Quote from: theaardvark on January 26, 2015, 06:08:22 PM
Does clearing waivers make him more attractive in a trade?
Are "compliance buyouts" done with?
Only for the fact it proves there is absolutely nobody that is willing to take on his contract. Lombardi will have to either eat 50% or more of his salary, or take a cap hit of $1 mil per while still paying him full salary for the next 5 years in Manchester. And I'm thinking at that point Richards would rather retire, which apparently punishes the Kings even more. LOL
And yes, buyouts are done with!
Brodeur to retire:
http://www.tsn.ca/brodeur-to-retire-as-player-and-join-blues-front-office-1.192938 (http://www.tsn.ca/brodeur-to-retire-as-player-and-join-blues-front-office-1.192938)
Nabby waived by the Lightning :(
I was hoping he would get a shot at the cup with them. Jets, bring him in! :)
Quote from: Colton on February 02, 2015, 02:13:05 PM
Nabby waived by the Lightning :(
I was hoping he would get a shot at the cup with them. Jets, bring him in! :)
LOL
Why would anyone want a 39-year old goalie?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 02, 2015, 02:36:16 PM
LOL
Why would anyone want a 39-year old goalie?
I wasn't being serious, he's just my all-time favorite player.
Quote from: Colton on February 02, 2015, 02:39:11 PM
I wasn't being serious, he's just my all-time favorite player.
Fair enough. ;)
He had a good career with the Sharks.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 02, 2015, 02:40:40 PM
Fair enough. ;)
He had a good career with the Sharks.
Yep, I'll always consider his save against Dallas in OT to be the best ever no matter how biased that comes across.
Kinda upset right now that I missed out on probably my last chance to meet him when the Lightning were in town in October. I had no idea he was playing with the Lightning beforehand. Hope he can sign as a backup with a team that has a road game in Winnipeg left this season.
what what do you all think we're gonna see out of the Jets tonight?
I think they'll come out like gang busters myself.
STAY OUT OF THE BOX GUYS!!
Evgeni Nabokov dealt to the Sharks so he can retire with his longest tenured team.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 09, 2015, 07:43:53 PM
Evgeni Nabokov dealt to the Sharks so he can retire with his longest tenured team.
;D
Hope to see him/this trade in Episode 3 of Road to the Stadium Series.
Quote from: Colton on February 09, 2015, 07:45:45 PM
;D
Hope to see him/this trade in Episode 3 of Road to the Stadium Series.
I'm sure it'll be featured. This is a classy move by Yzerman.
man, Hawks look like crap against the Canucks, at home no less. Turnover machine Hawks are now. WOW
.500 team for the last month+
With all those players, amazing! Maybe they are tuning out Quenville.
3-1 Nucks Ouch!
Jets gave the Nucks a better fight
So the Leafs are going through with a 'scorched-earth' rebuild.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-toronto-maple-leafs-rebuild-brendan-shanahan-scorch-earth-three-five-years-pain/
Won't be quite as fun watching the Leafs suffer when you know they are doing it on purpose. :/
Quote from: Colton on February 12, 2015, 07:38:00 PM
So the Leafs are going through with a 'scorched-earth' rebuild.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-toronto-maple-leafs-rebuild-brendan-shanahan-scorch-earth-three-five-years-pain/
Won't be quite as fun watching the Leafs suffer when you know they are doing it on purpose. :/
Oh, it'll be fun. ;D
Crazy... they'll crack the 50-years-with-no-championship record. There's something worth celebrating, eh? LOL
Quote from: Colton on February 12, 2015, 07:38:00 PM
So the Leafs are going through with a 'scorched-earth' rebuild.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-toronto-maple-leafs-rebuild-brendan-shanahan-scorch-earth-three-five-years-pain/
Won't be quite as fun watching the Leafs suffer when you know they are doing it on purpose. :/
I chuckled when I heard this on HC@N. Leaf Mgmt have finally realized they have zero depth and the team they currently have is a farce. :D
"Leafland" & their problems start with their awful looking uniforms & upper, upper management
The team is just a reflection of their inability to run a hockey business ........ IMHO
Re:Leafs it would make a great Soap!
Quote from: Colton on February 12, 2015, 07:38:00 PM
So the Leafs are going through with a 'scorched-earth' rebuild.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-toronto-maple-leafs-rebuild-brendan-shanahan-scorch-earth-three-five-years-pain/
Won't be quite as fun watching the Leafs suffer when you know they are doing it on purpose. :/
Of course, in typical Leafs fashion, they choose to do this the year after the McDavid/Eichel draft.
Get ready for the worst 3-5 years of top draft picks ever.
I didn't realize the Stars got A. Vermette! Anyways Seguin and Vermette got hurt last night putting a ding in the Stars playoff hopes. Ha ha
Obviously Seguin would be a massive blow. :D
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 14, 2015, 02:10:13 PM
I didn't realize the Stars got A. Vermette! Anyways Seguin and Vermette got hurt last night putting a ding in the Stars playoff hopes. Ha ha
Obviously Seguin would be a massive blow. :D
The Stars got Vermette...?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 14, 2015, 04:11:46 PM
The Stars got Vermette...?
No, the other player placed on IR along with Seguin was Patrick Eaves.
Quote from: Colton on February 14, 2015, 06:11:27 PM
No, the other player placed on IR along with Seguin was Patrick Eaves.
That's what I thought. I couldn't find anything anywhere saying Vermette got traded. Thanks.
From TSN:
The Toronto Maple Leafs have traded Cody Franson and Mike Santorelli to the Nashville Predators Hockey Team for Nashville?s first-round selection in the 2015 Draft, and forwards Brendan Leipsic and Olli Jokinen.
http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-trade-santorelli-franson-to-predators-1.208088 (http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-trade-santorelli-franson-to-predators-1.208088)
Preds trade for Santorelli (whom I liked when he was here for a short time with the jets, in fact I'd like him back here this year but that is not going to happen) and Franson while giving up a first round pick, B. Liepsic and Olie Jokinen. Big price to pay for a couple fringe kinda guys.
Press going for it though. They re a deep team now!
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on February 15, 2015, 03:10:08 PM
From TSN:
The Toronto Maple Leafs have traded Cody Franson and Mike Santorelli to the Nashville Predators Hockey Team for Nashville?s first-round selection in the 2015 Draft, and forwards Brendan Leipsic and Olli Jokinen.
http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-trade-santorelli-franson-to-predators-1.208088 (http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-trade-santorelli-franson-to-predators-1.208088)
errr, you just beat me to the punch!
a pretty fine addition in Franson for the puck moving defense of the Preds. They also got stronger, deeper with Santorelli being added
Good luck to the leafs trying to move Olli out now ..... apparently he is not happy & the blue boys do not need him in their line up
Good move by Nash. They obviously feel they are a true SC contender, and bringing in Franson to shore up their 3rd pairing and a guy like Santorelli for the top 9 is a real nice addition to an already solid lineup.
CHICAGO - Former NHL defenseman Steve Montador was found unconscious in his home in Mississauga, Ontario, early Sunday morning and was later pronounced dead, according to the Peel Region Police.
No foul play was suspected.
Montador last played in the NHL for the Chicago Blackhawks during the 2011-12 season. He missed the 2012-13 season recovering from a concussion. He said he battled depression as a physical symptom of the brain injury.
http://nypost.com/2015/02/15/nhls-steve-montador-dead-at-35-was-depressed-after-concussion/
Quote from: galeforce on February 15, 2015, 11:02:42 PM
CHICAGO - Former NHL defenseman Steve Montador was found unconscious in his home in Mississauga, Ontario, early Sunday morning and was later pronounced dead, according to the Peel Region Police.
No foul play was suspected.
Montador last played in the NHL for the Chicago Blackhawks during the 2011-12 season. He missed the 2012-13 season recovering from a concussion. He said he battled depression as a physical symptom of the brain injury.
http://nypost.com/2015/02/15/nhls-steve-montador-dead-at-35-was-depressed-after-concussion/
RIP very curious to know how this could happen to such a young guy?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 16, 2015, 03:23:01 PM
RIP very curious to know how this could happen to such a young guy?
Some reports have said he'd been dealing with post-concussion syndromes and battling depression. I'm sure more will come to light as the investigation unfolds.
RIP, Steve. Another tragic loss to the hockey community. :'(
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 16, 2015, 04:38:39 PM
Some reports have said he'd been dealing with post-concussion syndromes and battling depression. I'm sure more will come to light as the investigation unfolds.
RIP, Steve. Another tragic loss to the hockey community. :'(
Darryl Sutter, who was very close to Montador, seemed to suggest this as well.
Regardless, it's a very sad situation.
BREAKING: #Sens sign defenceman Marc Methot to a four-year contract extension. pic.twitter.com/rie8Z8NXHM
? Ottawa Senators (@Senators) February 16, 2015
another big Dman name off the trade block now. maybe we will see some trades this deadline.
Quote from: Colton on February 16, 2015, 05:14:08 PM
Darryl Sutter, who was very close to Montador, seemed to suggest this as well.
Regardless, it's a very sad situation.
It could potentially be another one of those brain injury situations.
It will be interesting to see what happened to the poor guy.
By the end of this weekend if a few teams have lost extra ground & have accepted it is not happening this year ....... then the moves should start
Case in point ..... in the past week heard that Lou was still deeming NJ in the playoff hunt ...... with a dash of reality NJ should be dealing
Coyotes should be moving Yandle, 28 yrs old, & Vermette at 32, soon, with a large number of youngsters on the horizon, why not get another 1st round pick.
Boston may get an offer for "old" Chara & why not sweeten the pot with the goalie Subban thrown in to get a top 6 forward & draft pick
Ottawa should dangle Macarthur & Wiercioch, Florida needs to move Fleischmann, Bergenheim & over payed Jussi Jokinen ..... good luck there
A mere splattering of what may turn to facts or just remain fantasy
Quote from: Jockitch on February 16, 2015, 08:59:41 PM
By the end of this weekend if a few teams have lost extra ground & have accepted it is not happening this year ....... then the moves should start
Case in point ..... in the past week heard that Lou was still deeming NJ in the playoff hunt ...... with a dash of reality NJ should be dealing
Coyotes should be moving Yandle, 28 yrs old, & Vermette at 32, soon, with a large number of youngsters on the horizon, why not get another 1st round pick.
Boston may get an offer for "old" Chara & why not sweeten the pot with the goalie Subban thrown in to get a top 6 forward & draft pick
Ottawa should dangle Macarthur & Wiercioch, Florida needs to move Fleischmann, Bergenheim & over payed Jussi Jokinen ..... good luck there
A mere splattering of what may turn to facts or just remain fantasy
Going to be a fun couple weeks im thinking.
Yep likely lots on movement upcoming. If Chevy makes a move like that could you envision what other more "movers and shakers" type GMs are thinking? Yikes.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 16, 2015, 09:56:00 PM
Yep likely lots on movement upcoming. If Chevy makes a move like that could you envision what other more "movers and shakers" type GMs are thinking? Yikes.
My guess is Chevy is done with trades this year.
I think we will see Armia up here.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 16, 2015, 10:01:36 PM
My guess is Chevy is done with trades this year.
I think we will see Armia up here.
oh ya Chevy is done like yesterday's greasy burger! I think the smart move is to stand pat even know forward depth would be welcomed.
We got lots of high picks super prospect depth and a very good line up. Arnia, I'd love to see what he's got. Depth scoring for the 3rd 4th wheel.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 16, 2015, 10:10:57 PM
oh ya Chevy is done like yesterday's greasy burger! I think the smart move is to stand pat even know forward depth would be welcomed.
We got lots of high picks super prospect depth and a very good line up. Arnia, I'd love to see what he's got. Depth scoring for the 3rd 4th wheel.
MMMMMMMMMMMMMM yesterdays greasy burger.
I think we go with what we got and hope for a playoff spot. Like you said we have lots of talent coming up and thats what we will depend on. When our team changes it will be from the guys we are developing and not trades.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 16, 2015, 10:25:09 PM
MMMMMMMMMMMMMM yesterdays greasy burger.
I think we go with what we got and hope for a playoff spot. Like you said we have lots of talent coming up and thats what we will depend on. When our team changes it will be from the guys we are developing and not trades.
lol
So true
Can you imagine landing Chara? Opposing forwards having to face Buff, Chara or Myles every shift in front of the net...
Quote from: theaardvark on February 17, 2015, 12:23:23 AM
Can you imagine landing Chara? Opposing forwards having to face Buff, Chara or Myles every shift in front of the net...
id rather not old goods there
God dammit 2-1 edm
Stupid penalty by our leader, Ladd!
Ugh
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 17, 2015, 12:37:20 AM
God dammit 2-1 edm
Stupid penalty by our leader, Ladd!
Ugh
Out of control
that hit by buff
;D ;D :o ;D ;D
why aren't these comments posted in the Jets topic ??? :)
Quote from: theaardvark on February 17, 2015, 12:23:23 AM
Can you imagine landing Chara? Opposing forwards having to face Buff, Chara or Myles every shift in front of the net...
No, I can't imagine the Jets being interested in a dinosaur they don't need.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 17, 2015, 03:30:25 AM
No, I can't imagine the Jets being interested in a dinosaur they don't need.
agreed dinosaur
Well, the Flames came back from a 3-0 deficit and won it in OT.
All tied at 1 after 40 on the coast between the Nucks and the Wild.
Wild lost 7 point lead restored.
Flames Kings win but are battling for 3rd in the pacific to.
Jets siting pretty today.
Updates on Staffy and Mathieu would be appreciated!
So glad the Wild lost last night.
Ryan Getzlaf... Ya should've just kept your mouth shut.
http://www.tsn.ca/video/ovechkin-i-have-hair-he-doesn-t-have-hair-1.209492 (http://www.tsn.ca/video/ovechkin-i-have-hair-he-doesn-t-have-hair-1.209492)
Ovechkin's trolling you good. LOL :D
Arash Madani @ArashMadani
Look who?s living the dream! RT @SWhyno: Olli Jokinen: "The one thing I notice here being here two days is a lot of negative energy." #Leafs
I wonder who the "centre" of that vortex of negativity is?
@garylawless
Armia and Klingberg absent from #icecaps practice today. could be injury could be recall to #nhljets ...more info from Jets this morning
OOOOOOOOOPS Wrong thread..... need coffee
Quote from: theaardvark on February 18, 2015, 12:28:29 PM
Arash Madani @ArashMadani
Look who?s living the dream! RT @SWhyno: Olli Jokinen: "The one thing I notice here being here two days is a lot of negative energy." #Leafs
I wonder who the "centre" of that vortex of negativity is?
Toronto media.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 18, 2015, 12:28:29 PM
Arash Madani @ArashMadani
Look who?s living the dream! RT @SWhyno: Olli Jokinen: "The one thing I notice here being here two days is a lot of negative energy." #Leafs
I wonder who the "centre" of that vortex of negativity is?
Taking a jab at Jokinen...? Wow, imagine that. Aardsy crapping on a former player of a Winnipeg sports team. ::)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 18, 2015, 02:24:52 PM
Taking a jab at Jokinen...? Wow, imagine that. Aardsy crapping on a former player of a Winnipeg sports team. ::)
Kinda stupid taking a shot at Jokinen. Hes done nothing wrong.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 18, 2015, 02:28:05 PM
Kinda stupid taking a shot at Jokinen. Hes done nothing wrong.
Have you read any of his comment regarding the trade? Really? And then this comment?
Nothing wrong?
Quote from: theaardvark on February 18, 2015, 02:38:24 PM
Have you read any of his comment regarding the trade? Really? And then this comment?
Nothing wrong?
Can you blame him? Who the hell would want to go to the Leafs right now?
Hes been nothing but a great teammate and pro his entire career.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 18, 2015, 02:38:24 PM
Have you read any of his comment regarding the trade? Really? And then this comment?
Nothing wrong?
Yeah, I've read about it. Clearly, you haven't. So, here's some reading for you.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/olli-jokinen-on-nashville-predators-i-wasnt-used-properly/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/olli-jokinen-on-nashville-predators-i-wasnt-used-properly/)
?I think I wasn?t used properly over there,? Jokinen said Monday. ?I signed there as a centreman ? I don?t know what happened between July 2 and the training camp, but I found myself as a wing. To play right wing most of the year I was very uncomfortable.
?I?ve never played wing before in my life.?What did Jokinen "do wrong" in your eyes, Aardsy? He played wing for the first time in his career. And wasn't good at it.
The Toronto media twists around what he says and you lap it up. Well done.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 18, 2015, 02:38:24 PM
Have you read any of his comment regarding the trade? Really? And then this comment?
Nothing wrong?
He's 36 years old, has never won a cup, and was traded from a cup favorite to a team that has straight up declared they won't even try to contend for the cup for 3-5 years.
It's hilarious how anyone can crap on the player who was forced into an unfavourable situation, not the coach who decided to move him from the only position he's ever played.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 18, 2015, 03:33:00 PM
It's hilarious how anyone can crap on the player who was forced into an unfavourable situation, not the coach who decided to move him from the only position he's ever played.
I agree.
Hes one of the NHL good guys IMO.
Looks like the media has given him a bum rap. All that was put out there was the negativity comments. And all the questions were about whether he would report...
There is a very good article in the star today...
http://www.thestar.com/sports/breakaway_blog/2015/02/frank-speaking-olli-jokinen-breathes-some-honesty-into-leafs-room.html
Looks like he could be an asset for the Leafs in the dressing room after all.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 18, 2015, 05:02:38 PM
Looks like the media has given him a bum rap. All that was put out there was the negativity comments. And all the questions were about whether he would report...
There is a very good article in the star today...
http://www.thestar.com/sports/breakaway_blog/2015/02/frank-speaking-olli-jokinen-breathes-some-honesty-into-leafs-room.html
Looks like he could be an asset for the Leafs in the dressing room after all.
That is the Toronto media for you. Always toxic.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 17, 2015, 08:01:37 PM
Ryan Getzlaf... Ya should've just kept your mouth shut.
http://www.tsn.ca/video/ovechkin-i-have-hair-he-doesn-t-have-hair-1.209492 (http://www.tsn.ca/video/ovechkin-i-have-hair-he-doesn-t-have-hair-1.209492)
Ovechkin's trolling you good. LOL :D
Ovei gets owned lol
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 18, 2015, 10:18:56 PM
Ovei gets owned lol
getzlaf is creepy he got interviewed for with is wife by his side and he could keep his hands off her the whole time during interview. She had a little hole in her jeans on her thigh and he kept circling his finger on it during the whole time. Wierd! K ya maybe she's his Barbie doll but man can't you control yourself for 10 minutes.
CreepO
Funny how Getzlaf started it with his whining. And now he's letting Ovechkin troll him.
Go figure, Getzlaf is a Saskatchewan boy. LOL ;D
Ugh, lame game in Calgary last night. Both the Flames and Wild got points, the latter getting two. Lame.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 19, 2015, 01:26:28 PM
Ugh, lame game in Calgary last night. Both the Flames and Wild got points, the latter getting two. Lame.
I thought the same I think that game couldn't have gone worse for the Jets and the playoff race. We just need to keep winning or at least get the single.
NHL.com unveiling their advanced stats tomorrow will be interesting. All of the better advanced stats websites keep going down due to the owners getting hired by NHL clubs, so hopefully they did a good job with this.
Quote from: Colton on February 19, 2015, 06:05:16 PM
NHL.com unveiling their advanced stats tomorrow will be interesting. All of the better advanced stats websites keep going down due to the owners getting hired by NHL clubs, so hopefully they did a good job with this.
I'm looking forward to that, too. What website have you been using otherwise?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 19, 2015, 06:14:35 PM
I'm looking forward to that, too. What website have you been using otherwise?
For the most part hockeyanalysis and Behind The Net although I sometimes just do a Google search for a site and use some others from time to time. Anything else out there worth using?
Quote from: Colton on February 19, 2015, 06:21:10 PM
For the most part hockeyanalysis and Behind The Net although I sometimes just do a Google search for a site and use some others from time to time. Anything else out there worth using?
Not that I've found. I'm part of a hockey analytics group on FB but it only started up a couple weeks ago, Hardcore Analytics. It's more player-to-player comparisons using advanced stats, to be honest. Price vs. Rinne, Palat vs. Hall, Myers vs. Bogosian, etc.
hockeyanalysis.com is probably the best option out there right now. Hopefully, puckalytics.com takes off at some point this year. A comprehensive, user-friendly website would be great.
Advanced stats are up on nhl.com
http://www.nhl.com/stats/advancedstats
It's not a bad start, and from what I hear they will be building onto this soon. (as well as possibly making salary info publicly available)
I like them.
glad they didn't use the labels of Corsi and Fenwick, as it confuses people trying to learn about advanced stats.
Ah life's to short to care about these stupid stats!
I can think of about 10 things I'd rather be doing than analyzing these dumb stats started by some guy named "Ferrari".
Ugh!
If Corsi and Fenwick had been named Smith and Jones, I don't think they get stats named after them.
Remember the Niblick? The Mashie? The Spoon? The Jigger?
Easier to remember, more descriptive names win out in the long run... truthfully, I don't know (or care) what COrsi or Fenwick measure. Knowing to 3 decimal points how many times out of a hundred a D man turns over the puck in the neutral zone when 5 on 5 really isn't as important as a lot of other things a player does. "Advanced Analytics" can never measure the heart of a player. Buff's contributions to the team aren't trackable that way. The way he can change a games momentum with a hit or two, or a rush off the point, those are stat proof.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 21, 2015, 03:13:49 PM
If Corsi and Fenwick had been named Smith and Jones, I don't think they get stats named after them.
Remember the Niblick? The Mashie? The Spoon? The Jigger?
Easier to remember, more descriptive names win out in the long run... truthfully, I don't know (or care) what COrsi or Fenwick measure. Knowing to 3 decimal points how many times out of a hundred a D man turns over the puck in the neutral zone when 5 on 5 really isn't as important as a lot of other things a player does. "Advanced Analytics" can never measure the heart of a player. Buff's contributions to the team aren't trackable that way. The way he can change a games momentum with a hit or two, or a rush off the point, those are stat proof.
"measure the heart of the player" ugh COME ON GIVE ME A BREAK MANG!
Quote from: theaardvark on February 21, 2015, 03:13:49 PM
If Corsi and Fenwick had been named Smith and Jones, I don't think they get stats named after them.
Remember the Niblick? The Mashie? The Spoon? The Jigger?
Easier to remember, more descriptive names win out in the long run... truthfully, I don't know (or care) what COrsi or Fenwick measure. Knowing to 3 decimal points how many times out of a hundred a D man turns over the puck in the neutral zone when 5 on 5 really isn't as important as a lot of other things a player does. "Advanced Analytics" can never measure the heart of a player. Buff's contributions to the team aren't trackable that way. The way he can change a games momentum with a hit or two, or a rush off the point, those are stat proof.
The tired strawman argument of those who don't understand advanced stats.
Analytics are just one of the many tools player agents + mgmt can utilize to measure a players worth come contract time. But obviously, there are variables to all measuring tools, and therefore the scouts critical eye test is still heavily relied upon.
That said, if the Cole availabilty rumors are true, he has the size, hands and type of game that could be a real nice fit on a line with 18 + 16. This would also allow Wheeler to move down onto a line with Scheif to try and re-kindle some of that magic from last year...and put Fro on the left side until Perreault comes back.
And if the Jets can also manage to bring Winnik home with them from Toronto, I think he'd be a real good fit with Lowry + Stafford during the playoff push.
The lines IF we made the playoffs would look like...
16-18-Cole
85-55-26
67-17-Staff
Winnik-19-22
Lots of size, speed, heart, experience thru the lineup with offense spreadout in the top 9 and maybe even the odd goal from the 4th line.
With everyone healthy, I think Staff would be on with Little Ladd... Cole with Lowry Frolik. Especially if we want to sign Staff... but again, the same might be said for COle, if they want to retain him past this year...
Quote from: Colton on February 21, 2015, 05:04:19 PM
The tired strawman argument of those who don't understand advanced stats.
Exactly. And last time I checked, there wasn't some legitimate way to mathematically calculate a player's "heart". ::)
Advanced stats are interesting because they can paint a more colourful picture of players and teams, which is important when addressing shortcomings with either and what improvements can be made to a specific player's game or a team's overall game.
Take a look at the advanced goaltending stats between Carey Price and Pekka Rinne, for example, to see how important the former really is to his team this season.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 21, 2015, 09:00:26 PM
Exactly. And last time I checked, there wasn't some legitimate way to mathematically calculate a player's "heart". ::)
Advanced stats are interesting because they can paint a more colourful picture of players and teams, which is important when addressing shortcomings with either and what improvements can be made to a specific player's game or a team's overall game.
Take a look at the advanced goaltending stats between Carey Price and Pekka Rinne, for example, to see how important the former really is to his team this season.
send you 18.86 via paypal. take care of the shipping costs please.
now do pavs vs hutch just for fun.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 21, 2015, 09:00:26 PM
Exactly. And last time I checked, there wasn't some legitimate way to mathematically calculate a player's "heart". ::)
Advanced stats are interesting because they can paint a more colourful picture of players and teams, which is important when addressing shortcomings with either and what improvements can be made to a specific player's game or a team's overall game.
Take a look at the advanced goaltending stats between Carey Price and Pekka Rinne, for example, to see how important the former really is to his team this season.
Price is my Hart trophy winner if the season ended today. I kept hearing Rinne earlier in the season but if your Vezina candidate goalie is playing with a Norris favorite and Calder favorite under a Jack Adams favorite, and GM of the Year candidate, I just don't see how you can justify giving the Hart to that goalie even if Price wasn't playing to the level he is.
I don't want Winnck anymore. Damage goods.lol
Tonight go Sharks
KINGS WIN .... the KINGS WIN ....... GULP !!
Need stars to win today bat those Wild.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 22, 2015, 03:36:03 PM
Need stars to win today bat those Wild.
i really dislike the Wild
Quote from: AngryGreg on February 22, 2015, 03:36:41 PM
i really dislike the Wild
because they stole Parise? Lol
I just hate because
Kinda like the rider of the NHL for me though.
The Wild didn't steal Parise. They didn't steal Suter, either. The Wild overpaid for both.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 24, 2015, 02:01:29 PM
The Wild didn't steal Parise. They didn't steal Suter, either. The Wild overpaid for both.
so true it handy caps that team going forward. Kinda like the Riders now. lol
Habs trade Jiri Sekac to the Ducks for Devante Smith-Pelly.
http://www.tsn.ca/habs-acquire-smith-pelly-from-ducks-1.214832 (http://www.tsn.ca/habs-acquire-smith-pelly-from-ducks-1.214832)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 24, 2015, 04:06:44 PM
Habs trade Jiri Sekac to the Ducks for Devante Smith-Pelly.
http://www.tsn.ca/habs-acquire-smith-pelly-from-ducks-1.214832 (http://www.tsn.ca/habs-acquire-smith-pelly-from-ducks-1.214832)
Of the two I'd rather have Sekac but maybe that's just because I don't like DSP.
Quote from: Colton on February 24, 2015, 04:35:16 PM
Of the two I'd rather have Sekac but maybe that's just because I don't like DSP.
nice grit trade for the Habs. DSP can be a force especially in the playoffs.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 24, 2015, 07:18:52 PM
nice grit trade for the Habs. DSP can be a force especially in the playoffs.
Exactly. Bergevin must have felt the Habs have enough of the soft skilled players. DSP has some playoff experience and should provide the Habs with some board crashing and net front presence.
Quote from: Nic16 on February 24, 2015, 08:10:20 PM
Exactly. Bergevin must have felt the Habs have enough of the soft skilled players. DSP has some playoff experience and should provide the Habs with some board crashing and net front presence.
yep
Wow P Kane out 3 months ouch
Quote from: AngryGreg on February 25, 2015, 11:39:52 PM
woot woot
he is entertaining to watch though.
If you are a hawks fan your worried.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 25, 2015, 11:18:47 PM
Wow P Kane out 3 months ouch
Big loss for the Blackhawks. Maybe the Jets can catch 'em and grab third place in the Central. ;D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 26, 2015, 02:01:59 PM
Big loss for the Blackhawks. Maybe the Jets can catch 'em and grab third place in the Central. ;D
we clearly have a better chance now!!!!
Jagr traded to Panthers
Quote from: AngryGreg on February 26, 2015, 09:49:53 PM
Jagr traded to Panthers
I wonder if he'll retire down there.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 26, 2015, 10:23:03 PM
I wonder if he'll retire down there.
lol...i think he wants to play till he dies lol
clarkson traded to Columbus = gigantic bust....what a great day
Lou L. won that trade.
Why would the Panthers give up the drafts for another soon retiring senior to wander the beach fronts or trailer courts for Bingo games.
Jagr has been an awesome player who will, for sure, be in the Hall of Fame ........ but why would the Panthers need him & give up these high slot picks
Quote from: AngryGreg on February 26, 2015, 10:33:37 PM
clarkson traded to Columbus = gigantic bust....what a great day
Might be time to dig up that post again where you told me he was better than Pavelski...
Quote from: sweep the leg on February 26, 2015, 11:24:52 PM
Might be time to dig up that post again where you told me he was better than Pavelski...
he was...when he played with kovalchuk and parise lol....but too be fair, he was much better in a devils uni then ever was with the leafs :P
Great take on the Clarkson trade tweeted out by Bob McKenzie...
Basically, Horton;s contract is not insured, regardless cap or no cap, CBJ couldn't afforrd to pay someone not to play. OTOH, MLSE can. They can stash Horton's cap hit on the LTIL, pay him not to play, and not have the cap hit Clarkson carried. The richest team in the league can eat uninsured injured reserve money...
For those interested in advanced hockey stats, this website is a pretty extensive resource and offers a mountain of information:
http://war-on-ice.com/ (http://war-on-ice.com/)
You can even put your own charts/tables together using specific players or teams.
Quote from: AngryGreg on February 26, 2015, 11:26:27 PM
he was...when he played with kovalchuk and parise lol....but too be fair, he was much better in a devils uni then ever was with the leafs :P
He was never better than Pavelski, it's not even close.
During Clarkson's best season (which wasn't even very good) he had 30G and 16A. That same season Pavelski posted 31G and 30A. The point totals for Clarkson in his seasons leading up to that year from least to most recent were 22, 32, 24, and 18. Pavelski in that time frame had 40, 59, 51, and 66. Pavelski had also won a silver medal in the Olympics by this time as a premier American forward.
Since then Clarkson has become a negative value player, while Pavelski is on his way to consecutive 40 goal seasons (Clarkson has a grand total of 30 since '11-'12), scored more goals than any other player in 2014, and is an elite player in this league.
Saying he was at any point in his career better than Pavelski is preposterous.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 27, 2015, 07:55:09 PM
For those interested in advanced hockey stats, this website is a pretty extensive resource and offers a mountain of information:
http://war-on-ice.com/ (http://war-on-ice.com/)
You can even put your own charts/tables together using specific players or teams.
I feel like you probably already know this but I'll say it for others on here. WOI and Greg Sinclair are working together to create a replacement for CapGeek. You can see the super early result of this collaboration in the cap section of this site. Both parties are going to have their own site for the information but the data will be shared. Give these guys some time and we should have a good alternative to CapGeek (Hopefully one of the two parties is working on a new UI too ;) )
Quote from: Colton on February 27, 2015, 08:26:51 PM
He was never better than Pavelski, it's not even close.
During Clarkson's best season (which wasn't even very good) he had 30G and 16A. That same season Pavelski posted 31G and 30A. The point totals for Clarkson in his seasons leading up to that year from least to most recent were 22, 32, 24, and 18. Pavelski in that time frame had 40, 59, 51, and 66. Pavelski had also won a silver medal in the Olympics by this time as a premier American forward.
Since then Clarkson has become a negative value player, while Pavelski is on his way to consecutive 40 goal seasons (Clarkson has a grand total of 30 since '11-'12), scored more goals than any other player in 2014, and is an elite player in this league.
Saying he was at any point in his career better than Pavelski is preposterous.
thats fine...im not gonna internet argue over 2 players i have zero interest in
Quote from: AngryGreg on February 28, 2015, 04:47:10 PM
thats fine...im not gonna internet argue over 2 players i have zero interest in
There is no argument.
Quote from: Colton on February 27, 2015, 08:37:14 PM
I feel like you probably already know this but I'll say it for others on here. WOI and Greg Sinclair are working together to create a replacement for CapGeek. You can see the super early result of this collaboration in the cap section of this site. Both parties are going to have their own site for the information but the data will be shared. Give these guys some time and we should have a good alternative to CapGeek (Hopefully one of the two parties is working on a new UI too ;) )
But advanced stats are laaaaaame. No offence Colton. CapGeek rules.
Quote from: SaxonMiller11 on February 28, 2015, 09:21:27 PM
But advanced stats are laaaaaame. No offence Colton. CapGeek rules.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
I also don't know if you know this or not, but CapGeek no longer exists. So the fact that very talented and connected people are working on a replacement is a very good thing. Unless you enjoy sites like NHL Numbers and their often times incorrect salary numbers.
Quote from: Colton on February 28, 2015, 06:03:52 PM
There is no argument.
People are allowed to have a different opinion then yours.
Yet im sure you dont care and will continue to think only yours matters.
Avg fans and their opinions dont matter and are wrong so they might as well just shut up. There is no possible way you can be wrong or accept another opinion.
Well except for that afterburner thing.... Way off and not even close to being correct.
You still wont admit your wrong about that..
Vermette to Chi for a First and a prospect. Joins Timonen in the newly acquired pile.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 01, 2015, 12:38:18 AM
People are allowed to have a different opinion then yours.
Yet im sure you dont care and will continue to think only yours matters.
Avg fans and their opinions dont matter and are wrong so they might as well just shut up. There is no possible way you can be wrong or accept another opinion.
Well except for that afterburner thing.... Way off and not even close to being correct.
You still wont admit your wrong about that..
John Scott is a more talented hockey player than anyone under contract with the Winnipeg Jets. Not even close, blows them all out of the water.
John Scott - real bad FAIL
Is Boston going to overpay for a Power winger & a veteran.
Is Ottawa now going to move, though injured, Anderson because this kid Hammond has them winning 5 in a row?
San Jose is tredding so will they shake up some veterans with moves?
Love this week & finally tomorrow
HUGE game today.... need a clean 2
Go get er boys.
Mini cal and LA are breathing down our necks.
Apparently Glencross has been pulled off the practice ice & is saying bye to his teammates
H & L are saying maybe to Washington ........ done ...... but they are not as yet showing what & whom goes back
Quote from: Jockitch on March 01, 2015, 05:15:57 PM
Apparently Glencross has been pulled off the practice ice & is saying bye to his teammates
H & L are saying maybe to Washington
good Calgary getting weaker. I guess I guess what comes back in return. Washington likely not giving up any real active roster talent. Maybe a jay beagle at best?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 01, 2015, 05:18:46 PM
good Calgary getting weaker. I guess I guess what comes back in return. Washington likely not giving up any real active roster talent. Maybe a jay beagle at best?
2nd n 3rd
unbelievable
Rangers are blowing the future for now. And I mean blowing it! Love to see them get dumped in the first round. LOL
I don't think they have a first or second round pick for the next two drafts now. LoL
Slats is chewing on to many stogies :P
Quote from: Colton on February 27, 2015, 08:37:14 PM
I feel like you probably already know this but I'll say it for others on here. WOI and Greg Sinclair are working together to create a replacement for CapGeek. You can see the super early result of this collaboration in the cap section of this site. Both parties are going to have their own site for the information but the data will be shared. Give these guys some time and we should have a good alternative to CapGeek (Hopefully one of the two parties is working on a new UI too ;) )
I'm looking forward to this "CapGeek 2.0" when it gets launched.
Anyways, quite a number of trades this weekend... Vermette to Chicago, Yandle to the Rangers, Glencross to the Capitals. Could be a quiet day tomorrow.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 02, 2015, 01:19:35 AM
I'm looking forward to this "CapGeek 2.0" when it gets launched.
Anyways, quite a number of trades this weekend... Vermette to Chicago, Yandle to the Rangers, Glencross to the Capitals. Could be a quiet day tomorrow.
i doubt it I say it will be busy still
Leafs unload dion I think
Leafs shutout & lose again ....... fantastic. Agree DP should (as I'm sure he is praying for) be moved
Thinking Tampa, Boston, San Jose, St. Louis, the Islanders have some needs ....... tomorrow should have a few cool moves
Quote from: Jockitch on March 02, 2015, 03:05:38 AM
Leafs shutout & lose again ....... fantastic. Agree DP should (as I'm sure he is praying for) be moved
Thinking Tampa, Boston, San Jose, St. Louis, the Islanders have some needs ....... tomorrow should have a few cool moves
I expect San Jose to sell
@NYRangers: OFFICIAL: #NYR have acquired forward James Sheppard from San Jose in exchange for the Rangers' own 4th round pick in 2016.
@Real_ESPNLeBrun: FYI the Sharks retained $100,000 of Sheppard's salary to help Rangers' cap situation
@TSNHockey: Stars have traded F Cole to the Wings for a second-round pick and two prospects #TradeCentre
@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Prospects going to Dallas in Cole deal: Mattias Backman and Mattas Janmark.
Somehow SJose has lost momentum & now are in a tough spot ...... however they are in the Pacific Division & a push gets them in 2nd or 3rd & in the playoffs
Lack crapped the bed again tonight however so did Allen for St. Louis .......... what a race.
Guessing, cause of his 37 years, the Flyers try to move Streit ..... everyone needs a good Dman
Cole should be great for the Wings ....... sure hope Helm (going for an MRI) is not badly damaged
Interesting stuff from the Blues/Canucks game... I didn't see the game but from various tweets it said Allen was pulled with Elliot going in. Elliot gave up a goal and either pulled himself or was pulled by Hitchcock with Allen going back in. Some reports say Elliot was grabbed by Hitchcock who pushed Hitchcock's hand away and the 2 had words before Elliot stormed off. Did they show any of this during the game?
Quote from: Jockitch on March 02, 2015, 04:55:33 AM
Somehow SJose has lost momentum & now are in a tough spot ...... however they are in the Pacific Division & a push gets them in 2nd or 3rd & in the playoffs
Lack crapped the bed again tonight however so did Allen for St. Louis .......... what a race.
Guessing, cause of his 37 years, the Flyers try to move Streit ..... everyone needs a good Dman
Probably has something to do with going the entire month of February without winning at home. The Sharks have many issues and zero future. Buying at the deadline would be a terrible mistake for the future of the team. They should be selling for the future and stockpiling draft picks because they have very very little in terms of prospects at this moment.
So, the worst team in the league only has a 20% chance at #1? They get the #2 for sure, so tanking gets you a McEichel. But the #29th team has a 33.5% chance of picking in the top 2, (Their 13.5 plus the #30 teams 20%) . 66.5% chance 29th overall gets pick 3, losing the McEichel sweeps.
If you're going to tank, you better do it well....
What did that fan tweet say about Dion Phaneuf's wife? Something about Lupul? Please post it on here....
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 02, 2015, 08:29:54 PM
What did that fan tweet say about Dion Phaneuf's wife? Something about Lupul? Please post it on here....
It said he wants Lupul to stay with the Leafs because he slept with Phaneuf's wife.
snoozefest this year
Quote from: Colton on March 02, 2015, 08:31:14 PM
It said he wants Lupul to stay with the Leafs because he slept with Phaneuf's wife.
lol sweeeeet! Gotta be fun to be a bud! LoL
That's almost as bad as Lindros being traded away from the Flyers because he slept with Brind'amour's wife!
lol
I applaud TSN for having it on the ticker and providing such great entertainment!
The Blackhawks locker room is in disarray because of off-ice issues. Players are fighting for random reasons that have nothing to do with internal discord.
Whatever has caused these rumors or what they mean, Chicago defenseman Duncan Keith has decided to join the chorus of Chicago players spouting off on the issue.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/blackhawks-fire-back-at-rumors-on-locker-room-discord-182911311.html
Quote from: galeforce on March 02, 2015, 11:45:02 PM
The Blackhawks locker room is in disarray because of off-ice issues. Players are fighting for random reasons that have nothing to do with internal discord.
Whatever has caused these rumors or what they mean, Chicago defenseman Duncan Keith has decided to join the chorus of Chicago players spouting off on the issue.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/blackhawks-fire-back-at-rumors-on-locker-room-discord-182911311.html
i dont understand this :D
Quote from: galeforce on March 02, 2015, 11:45:02 PM
The Blackhawks locker room is in disarray because of off-ice issues. Players are fighting for random reasons that have nothing to do with internal discord.
Whatever has caused these rumors or what they mean, Chicago defenseman Duncan Keith has decided to join the chorus of Chicago players spouting off on the issue.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/blackhawks-fire-back-at-rumors-on-locker-room-discord-182911311.html
The locker room rumours about the Blackhawks/Sharp are pretty severe.
Quote from: Colton on March 03, 2015, 12:00:45 AM
The locker room rumours about the Blackhawks/Sharp are pretty severe.
Yet we still can't close the gap on those 5 points.
Quote from: Jesse on March 03, 2015, 04:17:51 PM
Yet we still can't close the gap on those 5 points.
they are still quite talented.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 03, 2015, 07:33:39 PM
they are still quite talented.
Might just prove why Toews is the best leader/captain/player in the NHL
After all the media crap..... Picked them up and carried them to a W
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 03, 2015, 08:17:59 PM
Might just prove why Toews is the best leader/captain/player in the NHL
After all the media crap..... Picked them up and carried them to a W
is he better than Ladd, now?
I say no. Make sure you know I said now. Ladd is more consistent scoring hits like a mad man and leads by true example. towers had a good game last night a deals by example as well but O think Ladd is a little more of a better package now.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 03, 2015, 09:00:20 PM
is he better than Ladd, now?
I say no. Make sure you know I said now. Ladd is more consistent scoring hits like a mad man and leads by true example. towers had a good game last night a deals by example as well but O think Ladd is a little more of a better package now.
Toews is a top 5 forward in the NHL, Ladd isn't a comparable IMO.
Even if you go by just scoring, the splits are 22G 30A 52P in 64G for Ladd and 21G 32A 53P in 64G for Toews this season, 674GP 183G 227A 410P for Ladd in his career and 548GP 216G 277A 493P for Toews in his career. Carrers in the playoffs are 53GP 8G 7A 15P for Ladd, 94GP 29G 52A 81P for Toews.
So Toews is a better option than Ladd offensively, the competition isn't even close defensively. Toews is a perennial Selke nominee and arguably one of the best defensive forwards in the game. He is a beast on faceoffs
Toews is also one of the most clutch forwards in the NHL since he was drafted. Easily the best leader in the NHL, has won 2 cups, and a Conn Smythe on top of that.
Quote from: Jesse on March 03, 2015, 04:17:51 PM
Yet we still can't close the gap on those 5 points.
I was really thinking the Canes would take it to them last night. But the Hawks rallied and won. Blah. :-\
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 03, 2015, 09:00:20 PM
is he better than Ladd, now?
I say no. Make sure you know I said now. Ladd is more consistent scoring hits like a mad man and leads by true example. towers had a good game last night a deals by example as well but O think Ladd is a little more of a better package now.
Is Toews better than Ladd...? Unequivocally, yes. Toews is a top player in the NHL and has elite status. Ladd is a solid captain but his talent and leadership are nowhere close to what Toews brings to the tables.
Just to add, Toews was ranked the #2 NHL player going into this season by NHL GM's, NHL coaches, and TSN 'experts'
http://www.tsn.ca/crosby-tops-tsn-hockey-s-top-50-nhl-players-1.94060
Ladd did not make the list, which lists the top 50 players.
I would definitely agree that Toews is the second best forward in the NHL (I'd rank him 4th in players behind Crosby, Price, and Doughty).
Blah blah blah Ladd is better RIGHT NOW as my post states
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 03, 2015, 09:00:20 PM
is he better than Ladd, now?
I say no. Make sure you know I said now. Ladd is more consistent scoring hits like a mad man and leads by true example. towers had a good game last night a deals by example as well but O think Ladd is a little more of a better package now.
Not doubting Ladd at all.
Pretty safe to say Toews is the best in the game.
Deadspin @Deadspin
Joffrey Lupul, Dion Phaneuf, and Elisha Cuthbert want an apology and cash from TSN for airing a joke tweet: http://deadsp.in/1ZyQcrs
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 03, 2015, 09:00:20 PM
is he better than Ladd, now?
I say no. Make sure you know I said now. Ladd is more consistent scoring hits like a mad man and leads by true example. towers had a good game last night a deals by example as well but O think Ladd is a little more of a better package now.
Toews is the best in hockey imo
and Toews should go down in history as one of the very best....AHEAD of Crosby
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 03, 2015, 09:52:00 PM
Blah blah blah Ladd is better RIGHT NOW as my post states
How is Ladd better than Toews right now?
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 03, 2015, 10:20:48 PM
and Toews should go down in history as one of the very best....AHEAD of Crosby
With out any doubt
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 03, 2015, 10:23:28 PM
How is Ladd better than Toews right now?
he posted his reasons
QuoteLadd is more consistent scoring hits like a mad man and leads by true example. towers had a good game last night a deals by example as well but O think Ladd is a little more of a better package now.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 03, 2015, 09:52:00 PM
Blah blah blah Ladd is better RIGHT NOW as my post states
No he isn't
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 03, 2015, 10:29:29 PM
he posted his reasons
No, he didn't. How is Ladd more consistent or lead by truer example...?
Last ten games for each captain:
LADD 4G, 3A (7P), +2
TOEWS 6G, 3A (9P), +8
Both have pretty good stats. Toews' are clearly better, though.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 03, 2015, 11:43:37 PM
No, he didn't. How is Ladd more consistent or lead by truer example...?
Last ten games for each captain:
LADD 4G, 3A (7P), +2
TOEWS 6G, 3A (9P), +8
Both have pretty good stats. Toews' are clearly better, though.
ya...i posted his reasons why he feels that Ladd is better as of right now
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 12:49:46 AM
ya...i posted his reasons why he feels that Ladd is better as of right now
And it dont matter
Here's a look at the advanced stats between the two captains (attachment).
Toews has better possession stats in tougher zone starts against tougher competition this season and is consistently among the league's best two-way forwards.
Cory Schnieder is giving me hope lol
No doubt that Price gets amazing press when he is having a very good year but ........... Schneider has been equally as good IMO
Quote from: Colton on March 03, 2015, 10:41:37 PM
No he isn't
yes he is
Ladd would be better if he had Hossa as a line mate.
But I do agree all time Toews should go down as the better player than Crosby
Mud is right it don't matter it's just my opinion of the two right now and only based on very recent history.
Ladd is better overall in the latter part of the season, so far
Deal with it you dweebs!😃😃😃
I'm not sure Ladd is even in the top 20 players in this league if you narrow it down to only the 27 captains in this league.
Quote from: Jockitch on March 04, 2015, 02:41:52 AM
No doubt that Price gets amazing press when he is having a very good year but ........... Schneider has been equally as good IMO
his numbers are there...he just doesnt have the team in front of him...but Price is having a pretty great year
Quote from: Jockitch on March 04, 2015, 02:41:52 AM
No doubt that Price gets amazing press when he is having a very good year but ........... Schneider has been equally as good IMO
Schneider has had an excellent 2015 in particular. Not sold on him past the regular season though.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 03:10:42 AM
I'm not sure Ladd is even in the top 20 players in this league if you narrow it down to only the 27 captains in this league.
hes easily in the top 20...his team is sitting 12th overall , in a tough division...hes 26th in the league in points, and like Gold said, hes playing with a wicked edge to him the past few games...hitting everything and being jonny on the spot too....easily top 20
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 03:14:03 AM
hes easily in the top 20...his team is sitting 12th overall , in a tough division...hes 26th in the league in points, and like Gold said, hes playing with a wicked edge to him the past few games...hitting everything and being jonny on the spot too....easily top 20
Getzlaf
Chara
Giordano
Toews
Landeskog
Benn
Zetterberg
Brown
Koivu
Weber
Tavares
McDonagh
Karlsson
Giroux
Crosby
Backes
Stamkos
Sedin
Ovechkin
Are all better than Ladd. That's 19. The other 7 are Doan, Staal, Gionta, Ference, Mitchell, Salvador, Phaneuf. You can argue Ladd slides into the last spot of the top 20 but it's close.
Crazy game for the Panthers and Leafs. Luongo hurts his shoulder and comes out of game. Montoya comes in, later is hurt and comes out. Delay while players volunteer to play goal but Montoya then comes back but can hardly move. Goalie coach suits up but Montoya stays in before Luongo comes back in. Craziest part - Leafs won.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 03:33:06 AM
Getzlaf
Chara
Giordano
Toews
Landeskog
Benn
Zetterberg
Brown
Koivu
Weber
Tavares
McDonagh
Karlsson
Giroux
Crosby
Backes
Stamkos
Sedin
Ovechkin
Are all better than Ladd. That's 19. The other 7 are Doan, Staal, Gionta, Ference, Mitchell, Salvador, Phaneuf. You can argue Ladd slides into the last spot of the top 20 but it's close.
ah you're out to lunch! Considering the source I'm not surprised!😳
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 03:14:03 AM
hes easily in the top 20...his team is sitting 12th overall , in a tough division...hes 26th in the league in points, and like Gold said, hes playing with a wicked edge to him the past few games...hitting everything and being jonny on the spot too....easily top 20
I agree
Dustin Brown isn't a better player than Ladd. That's the only name on that list that is clearly wrong imo. I'd put him ahead of Koivu and even Chara now too, but I could understand the argument the other way as well. Chara is so slow now and not the player he used to be, though he's certainly not a bum.
I really like Ladd, but any argument that he's better than Toews is nonsense.
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 03, 2015, 10:20:48 PM
and Toews should go down in history as one of the very best....AHEAD of Crosby
This is also nonsense, but I'm sure you already know that.
Quote from: sweep the leg on March 04, 2015, 01:13:56 PM
This is also nonsense, but I'm sure you already know that.
Personal preference but if i were starting a team id take Toews over Crosby every time.
Quote from: sweep the leg on March 04, 2015, 01:04:35 PM
Dustin Brown isn't a better player than Ladd. That's the only name on that list that is clearly wrong imo. I'd put him ahead of Koivu and even Chara now too, but I could understand the argument the other way as well. Chara is so slow now and not the player he used to be, though he's certainly not a bum.
I really like Ladd, but any argument that he's better than Toews is nonsense.
Perhaps I overvalue Brown after watching my team play against him 13 times a year the last couple of years. Ladd is definitely a more offensive player nowadays but I like what Brown brings to his team more than Ladd.
Using Mud's line of thinking, I would take Ladd over Koivu and Chara as well. Ladd definitely has more upside left in his career and will be playing and is younger than either of them. At the same time though I wouldn't call Filip Forsberg a better player than Jaromir Jagr even though I'd clearly take Filip any day of the week.
Regardless, even with those Ladd is ~16th only counting captains which is the greater point I was trying to make.
YOu guys are just muddying up everything I'm trying to say.
I'm saying Ladd ahas been better than Toews in the last few games.
Toews is better than Ladd by a long shot overall but I'm talking lately.
Brown lately sucks.
;D
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2015, 01:48:09 PM
Personal preference but if i were starting a team id take Toews over Crosby every time.
I've heard a lot of people say this. I don't think there is anything wrong with this line of view but in terms of players going down in history I don't see Toews ahead of Crosby. Crosby will go into history books as a generational talent along the lines of Gretzky and Lemieux. He saved an NHL franchise, he won a cup, his trophy room is packed, he's posted insane numbers (1.37P per game) over the span of his career while dealing with concussion issues among other injuries. He scored the OT goal to capture Olympic Gold on home ice, nobody who watched that game is going to forget that goal.
Toews is incredible, he's accomplished a few of the things above, he's accomplished some things Crosby hasn't, but I don't see history remembering him in the realm of players like Gretzky and Lemieux.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 02:20:21 PM
YOu guys are just muddying up everything I'm trying to say.
I'm saying Ladd ahas been better than Toews in the last few games.
Toews is better than Ladd by a long shot overall but I'm talking lately.
Brown lately sucks.
;D
BG84 showed that even that is still wrong.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 02:21:41 PM
BG84 showed that even that is still wrong.
take those stats and shove it! Its about the play on the ice that counts. ;)
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 02:23:29 PM
take those stats and shove it! Its about the play on the ice that counts. ;)
Toews is better than Ladd on the ice.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 02:14:44 PM
Using Mud's line of thinking, I would take Ladd over Koivu and Chara as well. Ladd definitely has more upside left in his career and will be playing and is younger than either of them. At the same time though I wouldn't call Filip Forsberg a better player than Jaromir Jagr even though I'd clearly take Filip any day of the week.
Regardless, even with those Ladd is ~16th only counting captains which is the greater point I was trying to make.
I knew what your point was, and I more or less agree with it. I just wanted to add my $.02 to the listing.
You think Jagr has been better than Forsberg this season?
Quote from: sweep the leg on March 04, 2015, 02:26:21 PM
I knew what your point was, and I more or less agree with it. I just wanted to add my $.02 to the listing.
You think Jagr has been better than Forsberg this season?
no just no
Quote from: sweep the leg on March 04, 2015, 02:26:21 PM
I knew what your point was, and I more or less agree with it. I just wanted to add my $.02 to the listing.
You think Jagr has been better than Forsberg this season?
No, not at all.
Quote from: sweep the leg on March 04, 2015, 02:26:21 PM
I knew what your point was, and I more or less agree with it. I just wanted to add my $.02 to the listing.
You think Jagr has been better than Forsberg this season?
Which Forsberg? The one Jagr played against for years, or the rookie? Because, based on this year only, Jagr is better than one of those...
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 02:21:08 PM
I've heard a lot of people say this. I don't think there is anything wrong with this line of view but in terms of players going down in history I don't see Toews ahead of Crosby. Crosby will go into history books as a generational talent along the lines of Gretzky and Lemieux. He saved an NHL franchise, he won a cup, his trophy room is packed, he's posted insane numbers (1.37P per game) over the span of his career while dealing with concussion issues among other injuries. He scored the OT goal to capture Olympic Gold on home ice, nobody who watched that game is going to forget that goal.
Toews is incredible, he's accomplished a few of the things above, he's accomplished some things Crosby hasn't, but I don't see history remembering him in the realm of players like Gretzky and Lemieux.
Like i said its my personal pref.
You can talk numbers and all that its all fine, but if im starting a team and i need a leader i want Toews over Crosby every day.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 04, 2015, 02:36:52 PM
Like i said its my personal pref.
You can talk numbers and all that its all fine, but if im starting a team and i need a leader i want Toews over Crosby every day.
I know, I said that's a popular opinion. I don't disagree with it. I was just pointing out there is a difference between who you would want as a GM, and the distinction of what history will say about each of these players. They're too completely different topics.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 04, 2015, 02:33:14 PM
Which Forsberg? The one Jagr played against for years, or the rookie? Because, based on this year only, Jagr is better than one of those...
Anton.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/joffrey-lupul-get-familiar-with-no-comment-toronto-maple-leafs/
Eh they got familiar with you being hurt and not playing..... this should be easy.
Lupul is now trying to arrange fist fights with fans over Instagram.
https://twitter.com/opdogg1984/status/573072054993489920/photo/1
The fan he is responding to is also hilarious, The 1v1 CoD challenge has me cracking up.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 05:57:51 PM
Lupul is now trying to arrange fist fights with fans over Instagram.
https://twitter.com/opdogg1984/status/573072054993489920/photo/1
The fan he is responding to is also hilarious, The 1v1 CoD challenge has me cracking up.
The fan's first post is terrible, which negates any humour he may display later on. Lupul needs to be smart enough to not engage people like this.
Can you block people on instagram? That would be the smart move...
Quote from: sweep the leg on March 04, 2015, 06:06:27 PM
The fan's first post is terrible, which negates any humour he may display later on. Lupul needs to be smart enough to not engage people like this.
Can you block people on instagram? That would be the smart move...
The fans first comment I can see on here is humorous to me and responding to a high profile athlete threatening him with a lawsuit over something stupid written on the internet. Or are you talking about what spawned this conversation. I haven't seen that comment/message
Lupul should know better to get into pissing matches with people over social media. He sounds like a 12 year old kid.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 06:14:55 PM
The fans first comment I can see on here is humorous to me and responding to a high profile athlete threatening him with a lawsuit over something stupid written on the internet. Or are you talking about what spawned this conversation. I haven't seen that comment/message
Lupul should know better to get into pissing matches with people over social media. He sounds like a 12 year old kid.
Me thinks Lupul has lost his mind.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 06:14:55 PM
The fans first comment I can see on here is humorous to me and responding to a high profile athlete threatening him with a lawsuit over something stupid written on the internet. Or are you talking about what spawned this conversation. I haven't seen that comment/message
Lupul should know better to get into pissing matches with people over social media. He sounds like a 12 year old kid.
It must be what started the conversation. The comment I'm referring to was this guy talking about how Lupul and Avery "wrecked" Phaneuf's wife.
Quote from: sweep the leg on March 04, 2015, 06:37:22 PM
It must be what started the conversation. The comment I'm referring to was this guy talking about how Lupul and Avery "wrecked" Phaneuf's wife.
Hadn't seen that, just the responses from that image. Immature comments from an immature person no doubt. Still don't like Lupul's response to it either.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 02:21:08 PM
I've heard a lot of people say this. I don't think there is anything wrong with this line of view but in terms of players going down in history I don't see Toews ahead of Crosby. Crosby will go into history books as a generational talent along the lines of Gretzky and Lemieux. He saved an NHL franchise, he won a cup, his trophy room is packed, he's posted insane numbers (1.37P per game) over the span of his career while dealing with concussion issues among other injuries. He scored the OT goal to capture Olympic Gold on home ice, nobody who watched that game is going to forget that goal.
Toews is incredible, he's accomplished a few of the things above, he's accomplished some things Crosby hasn't, but I don't see history remembering him in the realm of players like Gretzky and Lemieux.
he'll go down that way becuase the hockey world shoves him down our throats every chance they get
This Cuthbert thing is awesome.
Screw TO "come play in Wpg we have a budding program of success!"
Maybe we can scoop Lupul ;D
Quote from: sweep the leg on March 04, 2015, 06:37:22 PM
It must be what started the conversation. The comment I'm referring to was this guy talking about how Lupul and Avery "wrecked" Phaneuf's wife.
sloppy seconds if you will. I think I quote Avery on that one, lol.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 07:00:52 PM
This Cuthbert thing is awesome.
Screw TO "come play in Wpg we have a budding program of success!"
Maybe we can scoop Lupul ;D
Ugh... No. Just no.
The Maple Leafs' season is just a nightmare.
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 06:59:38 PM
he'll go down that way becuase the hockey world shoves him down our throats every chance they get
Because he is the best player in the game, that's generally how most sports work.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 07:26:19 PM
Because he is the best player in the game, that's generally how most sports work.
in your opinion he is
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 06:57:44 PM
hmmmm NO not lately
Lately, last few years, entire careers, any time frame you want to use.
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 07:28:41 PM
in your opinion he is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Lindsay_Award
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 07:30:10 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Lindsay_Award
Do you think Crosby will win it this year?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 04, 2015, 07:42:07 PM
Do you think Crosby will win it this year?
I wouldn't think so, was just an easy response to a stupid statement.
More for AG, I just typed 'Best player in NHL' into Google. I'm just going to straight up copy and paste the lists that come up from that query without even checking if they say Crosby because I'm extremely confident that they will. If they don't list him someone can let me know but I don't expect that to happen.
http://www.tsn.ca/crosby-tops-tsn-hockey-s-top-50-nhl-players-1.94060
http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/top-50-players-in-the-nhl-1-10/
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/11909090/2014-15-nhl-season-john-buccigross-gives-us-thoughts-
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2217152-br-experts-ranking-of-the-top-100-nhl-players-in-2014-15
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/09/18/the-top-50-nhl-players-for-2014
https://www.easports.com/nhl/news/2014/nhl-15-player-ratings-top-50-overall
http://www.ibtimes.com/top-50-nhl-players-look-best-hockey-players-2013-2014-season-1560229
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/top-10-hockey-players-of-2014--puck-daddy-s-year-in-review-205823088.html
What stupid comment?
Those are all opinion based as well
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 09:13:49 PM
Those are all opinion based as well
Yes, when the vast majority of the fans, experts, players, coaches, GM's, etc... believe a certain player to be the best in the league, it's probably because he is.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 07:29:38 PM
Lately, last few years, entire careers, any time frame you want to use.
no Ladd has been better in the last few games
Obviously your a bigger Hawk fan to ;)
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 09:23:39 PM
no Ladd has been better in the last few games
Obviously your a bigger Hawk fan to ;)
Nah, it's definitely been Toews. ;)
Not a big fan of the Hawks... Still hurting from that sweep in 2010.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 09:26:52 PM
Nah, it's definitely been Toews. ;)
Not a big fan of the Hawks... Still hurting from that sweep in 2010.
nah Ladd better. Glad to hear your hurting :'(
Get over it man! it's a matter of opinion you're like a ---- of a wife here.
Got it poindexter
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 09:21:10 PM
Yes, when the vast majority of the fans, experts, players, coaches, GM's, etc... believe a certain player to be the best in the league, it's probably because he is.
we were talking about he will go down in history...not last years Hockey News Rankings
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 09:33:40 PM
nah Ladd better. Glad to hear your hurting :'(
Get over it man! it's a matter of opinion you're like a ---- of a wife here.
Got it poindexter
Were we actually arguing? I thought we were messing around. Must have misread that situation.
I don't see how something performance based can be a manner of opinion though. If one player is clearly performing at a much higher level than another player in a performance based league, that player is objectively a better player. If it's close, it becomes a little less objective but this isn't one of those cases.
Unless you think Ladd is a better player because he brings better storylines to the team... :P
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 09:38:15 PM
we were talking about he will go down in history...not last years Hockey News Rankings
Yes, and it's very clear that Crosby will go down in history as a better player than Toews. You started arguing it's because he's shoved down peoples throats and I told you it's because he is clearly seen as a better hockey player by the extremely vast majority of people who follow this sport, and even those who don't. If you go up to someone who knows nothing of hockey and ask them to name a current player the most frequent response you'll get is Crosby. It's the same as if you asked the best hockey player of all time to someone who doesn't know the sport. You're going to hear Gretzky incredibly frequently, and probably never hear the name Lemieux. History will/has show(n) Gretzky was the greatest to play the sport. There are people who will drill down deeper and get technical and make legitimate arguments that Lemieux is actually the best to play the game just like people can do for a Toews > Crosby argument but that's something completely different than who will go down in history as a better player.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 09:42:15 PM
Were we actually arguing? I thought we were messing around. Must have misread that situation.
I don't see how something performance based can be a manner of opinion though. If one player is clearly performing at a much higher level than another player in a performance based league, that player is objectively a better player. If it's close, it becomes a little less objective but this isn't one of those cases.
Unless you think Ladd is a better player because he brings better storylines to the team... :P
ok who's single? :D I joke around to. Don't forget yer pocket protector. :-[
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 04, 2015, 09:58:34 PM
ok who's single? :D I joke around to. Don't forget yer pocket protector. :-[
I'm more on the nerd/techy side ;) No pocket protectors but I have spent entire nights discussing video game lore and the like.
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 04, 2015, 09:38:15 PM
we were talking about he will go down in history...not last years Hockey News Rankings
He's a three-time Lester B. Pearson Award Winner, two-time MVP, five-time all star, two-time scoring leader, Rocket Richard trophy. And he's only 27.
I think he'll go down as one of the greats.
IMO, it's still way too early to know one way or the other who the "better" player will be. Both still have long careers ahead of them.
Quote from: Colton on March 04, 2015, 09:47:08 PM
Yes, and it's very clear that Crosby will go down in history as a better player than Toews. You started arguing it's because he's shoved down peoples throats and I told you it's because he is clearly seen as a better hockey player by the extremely vast majority of people who follow this sport, and even those who don't. If you go up to someone who knows nothing of hockey and ask them to name a current player the most frequent response you'll get is Crosby. It's the same as if you asked the best hockey player of all time to someone who doesn't know the sport. You're going to hear Gretzky incredibly frequently, and probably never hear the name Lemieux. History will/has show(n) Gretzky was the greatest to play the sport. There are people who will drill down deeper and get technical and make legitimate arguments that Lemieux is actually the best to play the game just like people can do for a Toews > Crosby argument but that's something completely different than who will go down in history as a better player.
Crosby is a great hockey player thats not in doubt i dont think.
Some people dont base their opinion on what everyone tells them and it might even not be based on stats or things they won.
You cant shoot down a persons opinion.... Unless that opinion is based on stats and what others tell you.
Id pick Toews to lead my team over Crosby every day.
Quote from: Jesse on March 05, 2015, 12:22:38 AM
He's a three-time Lester B. Pearson Award Winner, two-time MVP, five-time all star, two-time scoring leader, Rocket Richard trophy. And he's only 27.
I think he'll go down as one of the greats.
of course he will..im clearly not saying hes a bad player, i understand hes a great player...all im saying is that the hockey world tends to shove Crosby down our throats and i get tired of it
Toews has won just as much, besides the scoring titles, and you barely hear a peep...hell, even Doughty
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 05, 2015, 02:49:44 AM
of course he will..im clearly not saying hes a bad player, i understand hes a great player...all im saying is that the hockey world tends to shove Crosby down our throats and i get tired of it
Toews has won just as much, besides the scoring titles, and you barely hear a peep...hell, even Doughty
yes and no toews gets his love as well i think.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 05, 2015, 12:57:30 PM
yes and no toews gets his love as well i think.
well..i subscribe to the hockey news magazine...Crosby has been on the cover more times then i care to count...i cant even recall seeing Toews on the cover
before Crosby played an NHL game they compared him to Gretzky...stop the madness!!! :P
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 05, 2015, 09:33:04 PM
well..i subscribe to the hockey news magazine...Crosby has been on the cover more times then i care to count...i cant even recall seeing Toews on the cover
You must have a selective memory because Toews has been on the cover multiple times.
http://www.tsn.ca/crosby-tops-tsn-hockey-s-top-50-nhl-players-1.94060 (http://www.tsn.ca/crosby-tops-tsn-hockey-s-top-50-nhl-players-1.94060)
Stanley Cup wins?
Ovie only 12 lol
Is that list include this year?
Dude has almost 45 goals so far
What gives?
Towers number 2 :'(
whoa...how did this story get through???
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=756735&navid=DL|NHL|home
somebody let there Crosby radar down for 2 seconds
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on March 06, 2015, 12:06:07 AM
You must have a selective memory because Toews has been on the cover multiple times.
i just went through 70+ editions....Crosby 7 times...Toews 3...and they were both on 1 cover :D
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 06, 2015, 11:25:37 PM
i just went through 70+ editions....Crosby 7 times...Toews 3...and they were both on 1 cover :D
why just why? To prove pointless point!
Gotta love the NHL thread on a CFL forum err!
Detroit better beat those god dam Flamers 2-1 winged wheel in the second.
The Flames are just unreal in third periods.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 09, 2015, 12:12:52 PM
The Flames are just unreal in third periods.
so are the Sens UGH!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 07, 2015, 01:05:16 AM
why just why? To prove pointless point!
Gotta love the NHL thread on a CFL forum err!
i was bored...get off my case!!! :D
CFL offseason has to be the most boring thing in the world...at least to me :P
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 09, 2015, 09:19:36 PM
i was bored...get off my case!!! :D
CFL offseason has to be the most boring thing in the world...at least to me :P
ha almost as bad as a New Jersey Devils game! :D
Stephen Whyno ✔ @SWhyno
Evgeny Romasko tonight in Oilers-Red Wings becomes first Russian-born referee to work an NHL game.
From TSN.ca:
Toronto Maple Leafs President Brendan Shanahan held an impromptu meeting with the media on Wednesday to say forward Nazem Kadri will sit out the next two games. The announcement comes on the heels of Kadri sitting out Monday's game against the New York Islanders for oversleeping and missing a team meeting Sunday.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on March 11, 2015, 01:53:42 PM
From TSN.ca:
Toronto Maple Leafs President Brendan Shanahan held an impromptu meeting with the media on Wednesday to say forward Nazem Kadri will sit out the next two games. The announcement comes on the heels of Kadri sitting out Monday's game against the New York Islanders for oversleeping and missing a team meeting Sunday.
wow what a mess and what a doosh of a player! It's fun to watch though, it would a fantastic reality show!!
Maybe the worst season in Maple Leafs' history.
Shanahan's gotta be lovin' his gig with the organization... :D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 11, 2015, 02:17:11 PM
Maybe the worst season in Maple Leafs' history.
Shanahan's gotta be lovin' his gig with the organization... :D
true but I'm sure he's being paid handsomely.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 11, 2015, 06:59:02 PM
true but I'm sure he's being paid handsomely.
Is Shanahan just in it for the money, though...? I don't think so.
i would take Kadri...just get the good players away from that city already
most in Leaf land are banking on Babcock signing on this summer...like im sure thats just what he wants on his record
Sabers n Leafs tonight
Good grief... watching 2 teams trying to loose? They should play without goalies just to make it fun to watch.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 11, 2015, 09:56:59 PM
Sabers n Leafs tonight
Good grief... watching 2 teams trying to loose? They should play without goalies just to make it fun to watch.
ya garbage game.....Sabres have that last place pretty much locked up
How bad losers are they, neither can get away from this game without a point. They can't even lose right...
What gives? Calgary wipes Anaheim? Really, seriously. Playoffs are slipping away daily for the Jets.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 12, 2015, 12:56:40 PM
What gives? Calgary wipes Anaheim? Really, seriously. Playoffs are slipping away daily for the Jets.
Calgary was 18-6-1 against divisional opponents going into that game. They seem to have no issues with games that matter the most to them.
Quote from: Colton on March 12, 2015, 01:02:06 PM
Calgary was 18-6-1 against divisional opponents going into that game. They seem to have no issues with games that matter the most to them.
Crazy stat. The Flames are just finding ways to win.
Man we sure need the Cannucks to beats the Kings clean.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 13, 2015, 01:39:16 AM
Man we sure need the Cannucks to beats the Kings clean.
Not even close. :-[
Tough go for the jets
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 13, 2015, 01:39:16 AM
Man we sure need the Cannucks to beats the Kings clean.
Yes, but I can also still see the Canucks sputtering down the final stretch.
Atleast I hope so ;)
Quote from: Nic16 on March 13, 2015, 06:56:42 PM
Yes, but I can also still see the Canucks sputtering down the final stretch.
Atleast I hope so ;)
plus I know we play them twice.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/03/18/nail-yakupov-homeless-dinner-oilers_n_6895994.html
Anyone going to watch the Minny-Blues game?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 21, 2015, 04:58:48 PM
Anyone going to watch the Minny-Blues game?
Probably not watch it. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on the score.
Quote from: Jesse on March 21, 2015, 05:01:32 PM
Probably not watch it. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on the score.
Ya me too.
And they quickly go up 2-0.
Sigh.
3-0.
The Blues look like hot garbage today.
4-0. Elliott gets pulled. Brutal.
Well.. looks like we aint getting any help.
Jets need atleast 1 point tonight for sure.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 21, 2015, 06:10:41 PM
Well.. looks like we aint getting any help.
Jets need atleast 1 point tonight for sure.
Jets need two tonight. Gotta keep that winning streak going.
4-1 Wild. Tarasenko nets his 35th on the season.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 21, 2015, 06:20:48 PM
Jets need two tonight. Gotta keep that winning streak going.
4-1 Wild. Tarasenko nets his 35th on the season.
LOL true but ill take 1 and be happy.
This game is crap BTW
Calgary has it tied 1-1 with Columbus
Quote from: Jesse on March 21, 2015, 07:38:00 PM
Calgary has it tied 1-1 with Columbus
LOL See we get no help... nuffin.
Good grief
Quote from: Jesse on March 21, 2015, 07:38:00 PM
Calgary has it tied 1-1 with Columbus
Calgary lost in OT and Canucks beat the Kings.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on March 21, 2015, 10:28:12 PM
Calgary lost in OT and Canucks beat the Kings.
As long as one of them lost clean.
Quote from: Jesse on March 21, 2015, 10:29:26 PM
As long as one of them lost clean.
Yup, Kings lost 4-1.
Devils Vs. Kings tonight :o
Quote from: AngryGreg on March 23, 2015, 09:46:38 PM
Devils Vs. Kings tonight :o
Well crap. Think your boys are up to kinda helping us out a bit?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 23, 2015, 10:16:24 PM
Well crap. Think your boys are up to kinda helping us out a bit?
doubt it lol
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 23, 2015, 10:33:17 PM
Useless.... bloody useless :D
Just like the Leafs. Useless. ;D
No sell out at ACC, 16k fans, lowest attendance in ACC history... is management getting the message yet? Carlyle might get a write in vote or two for the Jack Adams Trophy.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 24, 2015, 01:15:55 PM
No sell out at ACC, 16k fans, lowest attendance in ACC history... is management getting the message yet? Carlyle might get a write in vote or two for the Jack Adams Trophy.
What message?
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-ilya-kovalchuk-eyeing-return-nhl/
LOL
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 24, 2015, 02:55:09 PM
What message?
The fanbase is finally fed up with the organization...? That's my guess, anyway.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 24, 2015, 03:34:27 PM
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-ilya-kovalchuk-eyeing-return-nhl/
LOL
This doesn't surprise me. The KHL is sinking like a stone.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2015, 05:59:25 PM
The fanbase is finally fed up with the organization...? That's my guess, anyway.
This doesn't surprise me. The KHL is sinking like a stone.
LOL Ok then.
I thought management already told their fan base that they were going to suck for the next 5 years.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2015, 05:59:25 PM
The fanbase is finally fed up with the organization...? That's my guess, anyway.
This doesn't surprise me. The KHL is sinking like a stone.
i heard to feeder junior system WILL go bankrupt and KHL sounds like it may follow.
Burmi will need to come play for the Jets :)
Having your salary cut by more than half (when converted to US$) make its a lot less attractive.
Even if the KHL survives, I can't see it being a shadow of its former self, maybe it merges with another league over there, but the NHL is back to being the only place for elite players.
Jeez, the Kings are hammerin' the Rangers.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 25, 2015, 12:12:24 AM
Jeez, the Kings are hammerin' the Rangers.
No kidding eh
Cmon Islanders.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 25, 2015, 12:55:14 AM
Well crap
Yeah, the Islanders took a big one in the shootout. >:(
Freaking kings keep winning to. Looks like our raid to playoffs will be beating Calgary most likely.
Man it sure would be great to see the Flames, Kings, Nuks lose tonight all have tougher opponents.
Flames gonna lose
The outta town scoreboard hasn't been helping at all.
It would sure be nice to see that change tonight.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 30, 2015, 05:32:51 PM
The outta town scoreboard hasn't been helping at all.
It would sure be nice to see that change tonight.
"dear Mr or Mrs Hockey god we been the best fans in the league since the return of our Jets and our boys have scraped and clawed there way all season long especially with multiple massive injury situations. Please help us in regards to the out of town score board the next few nights. Thank you!"
Definitely would rather see Cal + Van in the playoffs and the defending champs out. And, it would make it easier to cheer for that if the Jets can pick up 4 pts this week, and LA unexpectedly comes away with a donut vs Chi, Col & Edm this week...but I highly doubt that happens with the latter 2 games being played @ Staples Ctr.
Quote from: Nic16 on March 30, 2015, 05:57:51 PM
Definitely would rather see Cal + Van in the playoffs and the defending champs out. And, it would make it easier to cheer for that if the Jets can pick up 4 pts this week, and LA unexpectedly comes away with a donut vs Chi, Col & Edm this week...but I highly doubt that happens with the latter 2 games being played @ Staples Ctr.
err
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 30, 2015, 05:38:19 PM
"dear Mr or Mrs Hockey god we been the best fans in the league since the return of our Jets and our boys have scraped and clawed there way all season long especially with multiple massive injury situations. Please help us in regards to the out of town score board the next few nights. Thank you!"
It's not working! :-[
Well, it is in Chicago... ::)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 31, 2015, 02:12:58 AM
It's not working! :-[
Well, it is in Chicago... ::)
only 1/3rds worked dammit! :'(
Mike Kelly @MikeKellyNHL
Keith Yandle is the Arizona Coyotes leading scorer with 41 points. Keith Yandle was traded by the Coyotes a month ago.
And Buffalo will win the McDavid Cup... how sad is that?
Quote from: theaardvark on April 02, 2015, 04:57:59 PM
Mike Kelly @MikeKellyNHL
Keith Yandle is the Arizona Coyotes leading scorer with 41 points. Keith Yandle was traded by the Coyotes a month ago.
And Buffalo will win the McDavid Cup... how sad is that?
Why will Buffalo win it?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 02, 2015, 05:00:16 PM
Why will Buffalo win it?
x2. It could be either them or Arizona. They're only separated by 2 points and each has 5 games left.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 02, 2015, 04:57:59 PM
Mike Kelly @MikeKellyNHL
Keith Yandle is the Arizona Coyotes leading scorer with 41 points. Keith Yandle was traded by the Coyotes a month ago.
And Buffalo will win the McDavid Cup... how sad is that?
Please tell us what is sad about it.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 02, 2015, 07:49:44 PM
Please tell us what is sad about it.
I think he is just referring to the fact the Yotes have no scorers and Buff may still finish below them and get McDavid.
That said, Eichel is certainly a very sweet consolation prize.
Quote from: Nic16 on April 02, 2015, 08:40:59 PM
I think he is just referring to the fact the Yotes have no scorers and Buff may still finish below them and get McDavid.
That said, Eichel is certainly a very sweet consolation prize.
If anyone but 29 or 30 win the lottery (65% chance of that happening), then 29th gets to pick third overall... so ensuring Eichel/McDavid means finishing 30th clean. Otherwise, you have a 2 in 3 chance of not getting either.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 02, 2015, 08:49:13 PM
If anyone but 29 or 30 win the lottery (65% chance of that happening), then 29th gets to pick third overall... so ensuring Eichel/McDavid means finishing 30th clean. Otherwise, you have a 2 in 3 chance of not getting either.
I understand how the draft lottery works...I was just using an example IF it were to remain the same as it stands today.
Quote from: Nic16 on April 02, 2015, 09:23:16 PM
I understand how the draft lottery works...I was just using an example IF it were to remain the same as it stands today.
If it remains the same as it is today, Arizona only has a 35% chance of getting at least one of the two. Buffalo would have 100% chance of getting one of them.
Big games tonite...
Let's see a clean sweep of wins...St.L, Hawks, NYR, Avs, Sens & Wings!
Quote from: Nic16 on April 02, 2015, 10:52:38 PM
Big games tonite...
Let's see a clean sweep of wins...St.L, Hawks, NYR, Avs, Sens & Wings!
Yup
Quote from: Nic16 on April 02, 2015, 10:52:38 PM
Big games tonite...
Let's see a clean sweep of wins...St.L, Hawks, NYR, Avs, Sens & Wings!
not sure why I put the Avs down instead of the Oilers but it doesn't matter now as LA is on their way to a win.
However, all the other real important games for the Jets came in!!!
Cal now maxes out @ 99, but that's with wins over LA and the Jets. Clean wins by LA and the Jets would make the magic number 96.
Things just got a whole lot better for the Jets tonite!!
Quote from: Nic16 on April 03, 2015, 03:58:25 AM
not sure why I put the Avs down instead of the Oilers but it doesn't matter now as LA is on their way to a win.
However, all the other real important games for the Jets came in!!!
Cal now maxes out @ 99, but that's with wins over LA and the Jets. Clean wins by LA and the Jets would make the magic number 96.
Things just got a whole lot better for the Jets tonite!!
As long as we take care of our own business.
Gotta love the "news article" on Kane....
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/evander-kane-problem-child/
Great excerpt...
Kane has been called a lot of things. Cocky. Selfish. A jerk. In hockey circles, ?distraction? is the popular term. But that?s not how teammates characterize him. In December, Scheifele was delivering straight-faced hockey talk until the ?#pushups? photo came up. ?He got a little ribbing for it,? Scheifele said, grinning. Thorburn brought up the time Kane ?carved? the acronym for ?Young Money Cash Money Billionaires,? into his hair. (Thorburn thought it said ?YMCA? at first.) And the guys in the room had recently given Kane a new nickname: ?Cocktails,? the origins of which Kane called a ?long, long story.? Thorburn got into it: ?We?ll say, ?Let?s go for drinks or for a beer,? and he?ll always use the term ?cocktails.? ?Let?s go out for a cocktail.? And it?s just like??Thorburn paused to laugh??you only hear that in movies, you know? He?s trying to be fancy and play along with his persona. We shut that down pretty quickly.?
Just a normal guy...
Love Wozny's takes on twitter:
Adam Wazny @wazoowazny
Kane texts LOL and uses exclamation marks? NO WAY! He's just like real people!
"Kane will arrange his own interviews via text message (he?ll even write ?lol? and use exclamation marks)..."
Not sure what to make of that Evander Kane-endorsed PR piece on Evander Kane, other than Evander Kane said what Evander Kane wanted to say.
Hopefully we can get a Calgary loss tonight against the Yotes!
It would be nice to see the Sens get in.
#Leafs announce Nonis, Horachek, Spott, Dennis, St. Croix have been fired.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 12, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
#Leafs announce Nonis, Horachek, Spott, Dennis, St. Croix have been fired.
that Nonis guy shouldn't be in the league again. He seems to fail everywhere he goes.
Full house cleaning
To be expected there though.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on April 12, 2015, 04:30:50 PM
that Nonis guy shouldn't be in the league again. He seems to fail everywhere he goes.
Full house cleaning
To be expected there though.
Ya he sucks
tough market in Toronto...probably shouldn't have fired Carlyle. Can you imagine being the GM and coach of that team if they ever have some semblance of success? You would be king of the world - for a short time anyway.
At least they got it over with before the playoffs start...
So, how many seconds after Detroit finishes their season does Babcock get a $10mil/yr offer from Toronto?
Who do they tap for GM? Steal away a Holland, do they go after a Slats? They have to sign someone Big. Do they get Scotty Bowman to unretire?
carlo todaro @juventus777JETS
. The Leafs Brendan Shanahan just got offered a job to write for Game of Thrones , #TheBlueWedding #TMLtalk #LeafsNation #NHL
Quote from: theaardvark on April 12, 2015, 05:15:25 PM
So, how many seconds after Detroit finishes their season does Babcock get a $10mil/yr offer from Toronto?
Who do they tap for GM? Steal away a Holland, do they go after a Slats? They have to sign someone Big. Do they get Scotty Bowman to unretire?
Babcock wont go to the Leafs
Quote from: theaardvark on April 12, 2015, 05:15:25 PM
So, how many seconds after Detroit finishes their season does Babcock get a $10mil/yr offer from Toronto?
Who do they tap for GM? Steal away a Holland, do they go after a Slats? They have to sign someone Big. Do they get Scotty Bowman to unretire?
$10M/year for a head coach...? LOL :D
No way Holland and/or Babcock leave the stability and consistency of the Red Wings to go attempt to put out the dumpster fire in Toronto.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 13, 2015, 02:43:54 PM
$10M/year for a head coach...? LOL :D
No way Holland and/or Babcock leave the stability and consistency of the Red Wings to go attempt to put out the dumpster fire in Toronto.
Doesn't mean the Leafs won't make an offer though.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on April 13, 2015, 02:48:19 PM
Doesn't mean the Leafs won't make an offer though.
I'm sure they will. Babcock is an excellent coach. But not even the likes of he or Holland could get that organization on the right track any time soon. The Leafs are a mess.
No body in hockey is in it for an easy, cushy job. They just aren't built for that.
On the other hand, if a new GM and Coach comes into Toronto, and turns the dumpster fire around, can you imagine what they would garner in accolades?
Hiring a coach away from an established organization with a history of winning will be tough. Plan B, bring in a crew that did well, but suffered from off ice problems.
Pittsburgh, Boston, Buffalo all will be in a similar position to Toronto, either having already cleared or about to clear house. Maybe one of those crews can clean up the mess, or at least get it to the next stage, where you can actually see credibility from.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 13, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
No body in hockey is in it for an easy, cushy job. They just aren't built for that.
The same way nobody is in it to leave a successful and stable situation for the polar opposite.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 13, 2015, 03:41:16 PM
The same way nobody is in it to leave a successful and stable situation for the polar opposite.
Except if the money and challenge makes it impossible to say no...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 13, 2015, 03:51:26 PM
Except if the money and challenge makes it impossible to say no...
The Leafs are a tire fire that is going to take several years to put out. They need to win the McDavid lottery and few years of solid drafting to get them out of the mess they are in.
I can see Babcock remaining in Detroit until Shanny can prove that the fire in the big smoke is atleast getting under control.
The Leafs do have some players and prospects. They aren't an empty barrel. Had Carlyle been allowed to finish the year, things might have been a little different.
The big thing that is attractive about the Leafs is the budget. Here, we're up against a budget, not a cap. With playoff revenue now, those might be the same number, but there is always a concern, and with the UFA's coming in the next two years, budget is killer.
The Leafs will spend to the cap without concern. And having the ability to pick up dead contracts gives them added trade potential. This is a team that has all the tools a GM could want.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 13, 2015, 06:42:36 PM
The Leafs do have some players and prospects. They aren't an empty barrel. Had Carlyle been allowed to finish the year, things might have been a little different.
The big thing that is attractive about the Leafs is the budget. Here, we're up against a budget, not a cap. With playoff revenue now, those might be the same number, but there is always a concern, and with the UFA's coming in the next two years, budget is killer.
The Leafs will spend to the cap without concern. And having the ability to pick up dead contracts gives them added trade potential. This is a team that has all the tools a GM could want.
Not an empty barrel, but not brimming with talent, either current or potential. William Nylander is about the best prospect in that barrel.
I'm hesitant to say if there anything attractive about the Leafs organization right now. What's attractive about a raging dumpster fire?
"This is a team that has all the tools in place."
Yeah, to do a complete teardown and rebuild from the ground up, a process which could realistically take four or five years. Why would any GM or HC leave a successful organization to take on such a daunting task? Let's not forget this is Toronto, where fans and the media are about as rabid as you can find. A prospective GM or HC would take such a factor into consideration.
Of course it is a daunting 4 or 5 year task. And both the Leaf's owners and management have committed to that.
So, as a GM, you want a 5 year guaranteed deal.
Coach isn't as important as a GM now, getting a guy like Nolan might be a good stopgap.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 13, 2015, 08:31:04 PM
Of course it is a daunting 4 or 5 year task. And both the Leaf's owners and management have committed to that.
So, as a GM, you want a 5 year guaranteed deal.
Coach isn't as important as a GM now, getting a guy like Nolan might be a good stopgap.
Nonsense. By that logic, Murray wouldn't have fired Nolan in Buffalo. Coaching is just as important as management.
Look what a coaching change did for teams like the Predators, the Capitals, the Canucks, and the Jets.
I think he means that given the Leaf's situation, the best coach in the world couldn't make a winner with the crap they have. They need a GM to get good players in first before the coaching factor can make a big difference. The teams you listed are certainly good examples of where a coaching change was positive, but the rosters were better than the previous coaches were able to get outta them. A Nolan would definitely be a good start though I think, but they need to concentrate on bringing in the right guys into the rebuild first.
As GM in TO, not a task just anyone would take, but some good people out there enjoy the challenge (and pay cheque TO can offer). Still a tough sell and not just any great GM would jump at that opportunity lol.
I have a funny feeling TO will hire a up n coming GM. An Asst GM out of somewhere.
The Leafs have spent $ foolishly in FA, strapped themselves with some bad contracts that are difficult to move and drafted poorly for far too long. This is not an easy fix.
Quote from: Nic16 on April 13, 2015, 10:12:01 PM
The Leafs have spent $ foolishly in FA, strapped themselves with some bad contracts that are difficult to move and drafted poorly for far too long. This is not an easy fix.
Not easy, that's why they need a good GM. Contracts go away in time. Waiver wire is easier for crappy teams. And UFA/RFA offer sheets are a good tool, used wisely.
The Jets are a prime example of a team that has too much in the pantry. We have too many good prospects, and too many good players under contract. I'd be surprised to see any of our UFA's back next year. Toronto can cobble together a nice team from spare parts like that, and start the rebuild.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 13, 2015, 11:08:26 PM
Not easy, that's why they need a good GM. Contracts go away in time. Waiver wire is easier for crappy teams. And UFA/RFA offer sheets are a good tool, used wisely.
The Jets are a prime example of a team that has too much in the pantry. We have too many good prospects, and too many good players under contract. I'd be surprised to see any of our UFA's back next year. Toronto can cobble together a nice team from spare parts like that, and start the rebuild.
Guys on TSN were just saying its not likely they hire a big name GM. Shanny will be calling the shots to the rebuild. They dont want a guy to come in and start calling the shots.
Like i said before... they will bring in an Asst GM from another team to kinda groom him.
Wow, Dutch and Odog tjhink the Jets beat the Ducks, the panel had it as a pick 'em, and Dutch chimes in and breaks the tie backing the Jets...
Awesome...
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 13, 2015, 11:37:35 PM
Guys on TSN were just saying its not likely they hire a big name GM. Shanny will be calling the shots to the rebuild. They dont want a guy to come in and start calling the shots.
Like i said before... they will bring in an Asst GM from another team to kinda groom him.
That's probably the best decision. Shanny was brought in to evaluate and then design an action plan to right a ship that is/was horribly off course. The from the ground up rebuild officially began at the TD and it will take a few years before they start to see any measureable results.
The time to get a quality GM in there is *now*. Look what Chevy has done in the time he has been at the reins. Bring in another Nonis, and you'll end up with Edmonton, years of first overall picks, and still miss the playoffs. No playoffs since 2006, one 40 win season in that time. They cannot have a Tambellini rebuild.
They need a big gun GM. And they need him now.
Hopefully, Shanahan doesn't get a good GM and we get to revel in the Leaf's misery until 2067. They can celebrate the 100th anniversary of the last cup win by winning their next one...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 14, 2015, 04:55:11 AM
The time to get a quality GM in there is *now*. Look what Chevy has done in the time he has been at the reins. Bring in another Nonis, and you'll end up with Edmonton, years of first overall picks, and still miss the playoffs. No playoffs since 2006, one 40 win season in that time. They cannot have a Tambellini rebuild.
They need a big gun GM. And they need him now.
Hopefully, Shanahan doesn't get a good GM and we get to revel in the Leaf's misery until 2067. They can celebrate the 100th anniversary of the last cup win by winning their next one...
I doubt any big name GM will want to go there if Shanny and his 2 buddys are calling the shots.
And you can bet the farm Shanny will be calling the shots.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 13, 2015, 11:08:26 PM
Not easy, that's why they need a good GM. Contracts go away in time. Waiver wire is easier for crappy teams. And UFA/RFA offer sheets are a good tool, used wisely.
The Jets are a prime example of a team that has too much in the pantry. We have too many good prospects, and too many good players under contract. I'd be surprised to see any of our UFA's back next year. Toronto can cobble together a nice team from spare parts like that, and start the rebuild.
Maybe you should apply for the job. LOL :D
The Jets are a prime example of a team that has done things right. Your suggestion that too much in the pantry is a problem is absurd.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 14, 2015, 01:26:19 PM
Maybe you should apply for the job. LOL :D
The Jets are a prime example of a team that has done things right. Your suggestion that too much in the pantry is a problem is absurd.
Too much in the pantry is the best kind of problem you can have. It is a "problem" caused by our success in drafting and trading. Choosing which players to dispense of is a lot better position to be in than scraping the bottom of the other teams barrels to fill your roster. Its going to be a while before we have to look for a UFA that wasn't already playing here to fill a hole in the offseason.
If Shanahan is going to call the shots, he should take the position and hire an asst GM in training to do the scutwork. No GM worth his salt will come in if Shanny is going to meddle.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 14, 2015, 04:55:11 AM
The time to get a quality GM in there is *now*. Look what Chevy has done in the time he has been at the reins. Bring in another Nonis, and you'll end up with Edmonton, years of first overall picks, and still miss the playoffs. No playoffs since 2006, one 40 win season in that time. They cannot have a Tambellini rebuild.
They need a big gun GM. And they need him now.
Hopefully, Shanahan doesn't get a good GM and we get to revel in the Leaf's misery until 2067. They can celebrate the 100th anniversary of the last cup win by winning their next one...
So your response to two people who were discussing that they should bring in an assistant GM from a team and groom him, is that they shouldn't do that, they should hire a big name GM like Chevy?
When Chevy was brought in here his experience in the NHL was a total of 2 years as an assistant GM of the Hawks. The Jets did exactly what Mud and Nic were discussing.
Bringing a big name GM into the Leafs organization right now sounds like a horrible decision.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 14, 2015, 02:08:56 PM
Too much in the pantry is the best kind of problem you can have. It is a "problem" caused by our success in drafting and trading. Choosing which players to dispense of is a lot better position to be in than scraping the bottom of the other teams barrels to fill your roster. Its going to be a while before we have to look for a UFA that wasn't already playing here to fill a hole in the offseason.
If Shanahan is going to call the shots, he should take the position and hire an asst GM in training to do the scutwork. No GM worth his salt will come in if Shanny is going to meddle.
Except it isn't a problem. Having a solid roster and a healthy prospect pipeline gives the Jets a significant advantage. They can retain key pieces while shedding ineffective/aging pieces and replacing them with younger ones. Prospects who need time to develop can do so in the AHL. An embarrassment of riches is never a problem in today's NHL. Can this be said about the Maple Leafs right now? Hell no.
And it isn't about meddling. Shanahan was brought in to oversee the process. That doesn't mean he should appoint himself GM, though. Take a look at what Linden did in Vancouver. I think that's the kind of model Shanahan now hopes to emulate with the Maple Leafs. Hiring a big name GM and/or coach really goes against that.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 14, 2015, 04:53:55 PM
Except it isn't a problem. Having a solid roster and a healthy prospect pipeline gives the Jets a significant advantage. They can retain key pieces while shedding ineffective/aging pieces and replacing them with younger ones. Prospects who need time to develop can do so in the AHL. An embarrassment of riches is never a problem in today's NHL. Can this be said about the Maple Leafs right now? Hell no.
And it isn't about meddling. Shanahan was brought in to oversee the process. That doesn't mean he should appoint himself GM, though. Take a look at what Linden did in Vancouver. I think that's the kind of model Shanahan now hopes to emulate with the Maple Leafs. Hiring a big name GM and/or coach really goes against that.
No problem watching Zach Redmond toiling for the Av's, putting up 15 min a game, 20 points. And we got what for him? Zip?
That's my point. There are going to be a lot of players that will come through our development structure that we will not have room for, and will go on to have good NHL careers elsewhere.
Guy's that have come through our system, like Redmond, guys like Pardy, ODell, Cormier... all UFA, most won't be wearing Jets colours next year. Too many RFA's, too many prospects that need the chance to move up, for us to keep these guys. But they, like Redmond, are good enough to play somewhere.
A wonderful problem to have.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 14, 2015, 05:35:55 PM
No problem watching Zach Redmond toiling for the Av's, putting up 15 min a game, 20 points. And we got what for him? Zip?
That's my point. There are going to be a lot of players that will come through our development structure that we will not have room for, and will go on to have good NHL careers elsewhere.
Guy's that have come through our system, like Redmond, guys like Pardy, ODell, Cormier... all UFA, most won't be wearing Jets colours next year. Too many RFA's, too many prospects that need the chance to move up, for us to keep these guys. But they, like Redmond, are good enough to play somewhere.
A wonderful problem to have.
The Jets let him go. Are they missing him? Not really. Welcome to the NHL of today. You don't always get something in return. This happens to 29 other teams. Did the Avs get anything for Statsny?
Pardy isn't a necessity and didn't come through the Jets' system. O'Dell might have potential in the NHL but he isn't a necessity, either. Cormier looks like a career AHLer and again, isn't a necessity.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 14, 2015, 05:35:55 PM
No problem watching Zach Redmond toiling for the Av's, putting up 15 min a game, 20 points. And we got what for him? Zip?
That's my point. There are going to be a lot of players that will come through our development structure that we will not have room for, and will go on to have good NHL careers elsewhere.
Guy's that have come through our system, like Redmond, guys like Pardy, ODell, Cormier... all UFA, most won't be wearing Jets colours next year. Too many RFA's, too many prospects that need the chance to move up, for us to keep these guys. But they, like Redmond, are good enough to play somewhere.
A wonderful problem to have.
Redmond was a Thrashers DP that was 7-8th d-man coming off a horrific injury so getting anything in return for him was not going to be an easy task.
Pardy is a journeyman 6-8th D-man who will likely sign 1-2 yr low end contracts for the remainder of his career whether it be with the Jets or another team.
O'Dell is another Thrashers DP that at this stage can only hope that some team has room on their AHL club for him.
Cormier is quickly running out of time and will be in the same boat as O'Dell.
Losing players such as these guys is due to their perceived ceiling, and not because we have this huge influx of talent pushing them out the door. The re-building of the Jets roster is currently said to be ahead of schedule, however, the AHL roster is still a work in progress and will take a few more years.
Another thing that is looked at when we let guys go is do they fit into our system. We have 2 guys in Petan and Ehlers that are smaller guick guys. We dont want alot of guys like that on our roster. Look at Odell... Hes got alright size but is he fast enough and agressive enough to fit into our system? we have a number of guys that Maurice and staff will have to look at. They might be good players but they just dont fit.
Redmond was good but im not sure he had the agression we need and you can only have so many guys like that.
This is what GMs mean when they talk about good hockey moves that make sense to there teams.
We seem to be setting the tone we are going to be big fast and mean..... We cant have a bunch of Petans and Ehlers on the roster if thats our identity so we will have to pick n choose what smaller guys we want and what guys we let go.
Another thing for us anyway is we will want guys with leadership quality's. Maurice talks about this alot.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 14, 2015, 11:20:43 PM
Another thing that is looked at when we let guys go is do they fit into our system. We have 2 guys in Petan and Ehlers that are smaller guick guys. We dont want alot of guys like that on our roster. Look at Odell... Hes got alright size but is he fast enough and agressive enough to fit into our system? we have a number of guys that Maurice and staff will have to look at. They might be good players but they just dont fit.
Redmond was good but im not sure he had the agression we need and you can only have so many guys like that.
This is what GMs mean when they talk about good hockey moves that make sense to there teams.
We seem to be setting the tone we are going to be big fast and mean..... We cant have a bunch of Petans and Ehlers on the roster if thats our identity so we will have to pick n choose what smaller guys we want and what guys we let go.
Another thing for us anyway is we will want guys with leadership quality's. Maurice talks about this alot.
Enstrom and Perrault fit nice regardless size... like you said, there is a bigger picture. Most of the Jets DP's fit a certain style. Chevy has done pretty darned good.
You're not wrong Muddy but I do think/hope Chevy will find a place for both Ehlers and Petan. Heck, for all we know, maybe Chevy's plan all along has been to become competitive in the short term by being big and strong and fast, and then transitioning to a skillset-heavy roster down the line?
When you're deep and have a lot in the pipe it's open season for teams with big holes to fill and it may be possible for a Toronto to pick up a Petan for next to nothing, kinda like us picking up Perreault for free from a very loaded Ducks team.
Quote from: Nic16 on April 14, 2015, 09:12:02 PM
O'Dell is another Thrashers DP that at this stage can only hope that some team has room on their AHL club for him.
Cormier is quickly running out of time and will be in the same boat as O'Dell.
O'Dell was drafted by the Anaheim Ducks in 2008. Cormier was a NJ Devils draft pick that same year.
I took lightning including Bishop, and New York in the East. I went with Chicago, St. Louis, Winnipeg in the west. Go all those teams !!! Especially Winnipeg obviously :)
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 15, 2015, 04:01:03 PM
You're not wrong Muddy but I do think/hope Chevy will find a place for both Ehlers and Petan. Heck, for all we know, maybe Chevy's plan all along has been to become competitive in the short term by being big and strong and fast, and then transitioning to a skillset-heavy roster down the line?
When you're deep and have a lot in the pipe it's open season for teams with big holes to fill and it may be possible for a Toronto to pick up a Petan for next to nothing, kinda like us picking up Perreault for free from a very loaded Ducks team.
Oh we will forsure find sports for Petan and Ehlers. But you dont want a team full of them. And i dont think we will switch to a smaller skilled team. We will have them kinda players on our roster but we wont build a team like that. We will continue to build our team with bigger fast agressive guys like Ladd, Wheels, Schief, Lowry Trouba,Buff and Myers.
Playing in the West we will need to stay how we are. Just improve on it.
Another thing we have to remember is most of our DP are going to go more the route of a Shief and not so much Trouba. Once drafted they will need 2 or 3 years to add weight and hone their skills.
Next year i can see Ehlers, Petan and Morrissey making the big team. But then again maybe not LOL
Ehlers will make in foesure IMO hes got mad skill and we really dont have any option really. He cant play in the A and hes way to good to go back to junior.
Don't forget, we have guys like Armia and Lemieux that will be in TC next year as well... and Comrie and Hellbuyck too.
Nice win my the Hawks, Flames last night. Hamblurger couldn't stop nothing!
Listening to the third period Hawks-Preds ... Hawks are getting killed ... 6-2 right now ... Crawford having a miserable night in goal ... Hawks broadcasters taking him to task for a number of things ...
From TSN:
Los Angeles Kings centre Jarret Stoll was arrested Friday for suspected cocaine possession at the MGM Grand Hotel's Wet Republic pool complex.
Las Vegas police Lt. Michael Mauntel said Stoll is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.
The 32-year-old Stoll is an unrestricted free agent after struggling this season. He had six goals and 11 assists in 73 games, his seventh with Los Angeles after five with Edmonton.
The centre helped the Kings win Stanley Cup titles in 2012 and 2014. Los Angeles missed the playoffs this season.
http://www.tsn.ca/kings-stoll-arrested-in-las-vegas-1.260263 (http://www.tsn.ca/kings-stoll-arrested-in-las-vegas-1.260263)
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on April 18, 2015, 05:31:35 AM
From TSN:
Los Angeles Kings centre Jarret Stoll was arrested Friday for suspected cocaine possession at the MGM Grand Hotel's Wet Republic pool complex.
Las Vegas police Lt. Michael Mauntel said Stoll is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.
The 32-year-old Stoll is an unrestricted free agent after struggling this season. He had six goals and 11 assists in 73 games, his seventh with Los Angeles after five with Edmonton.
The centre helped the Kings win Stanley Cup titles in 2012 and 2014. Los Angeles missed the playoffs this season.
http://www.tsn.ca/kings-stoll-arrested-in-las-vegas-1.260263 (http://www.tsn.ca/kings-stoll-arrested-in-las-vegas-1.260263)
wow what a mess that guy might be. Dating actresses, living in Lala land for that long could due some damage to your habits.
I didn't see the Ellers hit that hurt him but he was being a chippy player out there and he might of had it coming. Look like he was trying to hard to get under others guys skins to me.
Preds thrash Hawks. I see that one going 7 now. Same with the Islanders V Caps series. That one has 7 written all over it as well.
Hate to say it but if the Sens get one win they'd be doing well.
Oilers? Sigh....
Any chance his parents can force them to trade him to Phily? Get Carl and Bonnie on the phone...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 19, 2015, 12:22:10 AM
Oilers? Sigh....
Any chance his parents can force them to trade him to Phily? Get Carl and Bonnie on the phone...
HUH?
Good one Ards ..... kind of feel bad for Eichel though.
Most likely he will get picked by the Sabres & the butt head Tim Murray. Talk about a GM that dumps on his future 2nd pick.
Said he is here for the 2nd year & again goes home feeling like a loser. Not verbatim but that was the gist.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 19, 2015, 12:31:18 AM
HUH?
Carl and Bonnie Lindross...
Quote from: Jockitch on April 19, 2015, 01:54:31 AM
Good one Ards ..... kind of feel bad for Eichel though.
Most likely he will get picked by the Sabres & the butt head Tim Murray. Talk about a GM that dumps on his future 2nd pick.
Said he is here for the 2nd year & again goes home feeling like a loser. Not verbatim but that was the gist.
Can't blame Sabres for being disappointed... but Eichel will be a very good player too.
Kinda karmic though, Buff, Ari and Tor all sold off players and "tanked" Edm played hard to the end.
Congrats to Edmonton let the trading begin starting with Eberle
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on April 19, 2015, 04:03:53 AM
Oilers won the draft lottery.
LOL ya i new that.
Was Aards attempt at a joke that makes absolutely zero sense at a all.
Maybe its just me.
It looks like Edmonton is the last place he wanted to go. Edmonton will do the same thing as this year, play all the draft choices , play a third string goalie , and go for another draft pick next year.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 19, 2015, 03:47:26 PM
LOL ya i new that.
Was Aards attempt at a joke that makes absolutely zero sense at a all.
Maybe its just me.
Made sense to anyone alive at the time that Eric Lindross was drafted by Quebec.
What would you trade for McDavid?
Edmonton has a lot of talent, they need a "heart" transplant.
Ladd, Buff, Morrissey our two first rounders this year, our first next year and cash? Would that be enough? ;D ;)
Quote from: theaardvark on April 19, 2015, 04:10:44 PM
Made sense to anyone alive at the time that Eric Lindross was drafted by Quebec.
What would you trade for McDavid?
Edmonton has a lot of talent, they need a "heart" transplant.
Ladd, Buff, Morrissey our two first rounders this year, our first next year and cash? Would that be enough? ;D ;)
LOL I was alive.... still a stupid joke.
2 worst places he could go.... Leafs and Oilers. Poor kid could help a bad team but he cant fix stupid.
And why even talk about trading? No way they trade that pick.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 19, 2015, 04:35:08 PM
LOL I was alive.... still a stupid joke.
2 worst places he could go.... Leafs and Oilers. Poor kid could help a bad team but he cant fix stupid.
And why even talk about trading? No way they trade that pick.
Their GM has already stated - without admitting to who they would draft - that there is a less than 0% chance they will trade the pick.
This is a generational player we are talking about. I see this in similar light as the Penguins getting Crosby. They already had a young Malkin. They did not have great goal tending.
With Connor...Eberle ... Hall.... I think they will do something in the next couple years...
Quote from: trapper on April 19, 2015, 08:00:34 PM
This is a generational player we are talking about. I see this in similar light as the Penguins getting Crosby. They already had a young Malkin. They did not have great goal tending.
With Connor...Eberle ... Hall.... I think they will do something in the next couple years...
The Pens had pretty good management and were smart enuff to build a good support system for Malkin and Sid.
The problem for the Oilers is going to be they will have to move atleast 2 guys to build that support system. The Oilers will have little chance of McDavid signing anything long term without him seeing that being built.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 19, 2015, 08:34:26 PM
The Pens had pretty good management and were smart enuff to build a good support system for Malkin and Sid.
The problem for the Oilers is going to be they will have to move atleast 2 guys to build that support system. The Oilers will have little chance of McDavid signing anything long term without him seeing that being built.
Thanks to the CBA, they have him for quite a while before they have to worry about losing him. If they build a competitive team, with him as the core, them why would he leave? Edm will always have an advantage in signing him, both in money and term.
They have a lot of the pieces, some improvement on D, better coaching and a goalie and they could have something special. They have the fanbase, they just need something for the fans to cheer.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 19, 2015, 09:05:33 PM
Thanks to the CBA, they have him for quite a while before they have to worry about losing him. If they build a competitive team, with him as the core, them why would he leave? Edm will always have an advantage in signing him, both in money and term.
They have a lot of the pieces, some improvement on D, better coaching and a goalie and they could have something special. They have the fanbase, they just need something for the fans to cheer.
He can ask to be moved if he dont like what he sees. Not saying he will but you can bet hes going to want to see a real commitment from them to build around him. I dont know what it is about the Oilers but they seem to suck the life outta players.
They will need to move some guys and get some D and some guys with some kinda leadership. Huge skill wasted there with no focus or leadership. Just a bunch of highly skilled guys running around trying to score 5 goals because you know your going to get 4 scored on you.
And for sure that can be a really good team.
Only in America,I'm watching the Senators-Canadiens playoff game being broadcast by NBC Sports Network,with the play-by-play announcing by Chris Cuthbert(that's how I know NBCSN is broadcasting the game,because besides calling CFL & NHL games for TSN,which you already know,he also calls NHL games for NBC/NBCSN here in the U.S.).
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 19, 2015, 03:47:26 PM
LOL ya i new that.
Was Aards attempt at a joke that makes absolutely zero sense at a all.
Maybe its just me.
It's not just you.
Quote from: royrdsjr on April 19, 2015, 11:21:02 PM
Only in America,I'm watching the Senators-Canadiens playoff game being broadcast by NBC Sports Network,with the play-by-play announcing by Chris Cuthbert(that's how I know NBCSN is broadcasting the game,because besides calling CFL & NHL games for TSN,which you already know,he also calls NHL games for NBC/NBCSN here in the U.S.).
Can we trade Dave Randorf for Chris Cuthbert? Please?
Quite the similarity, at least in my eyes. how the Sens game went & ended.
Awesome, truly great play from their goalie & the Sens take a 1 - 0 lead late into the third & then in O.T. stick side shot & goal for the Habs.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on April 18, 2015, 05:31:35 AM
From TSN:
Los Angeles Kings centre Jarret Stoll was arrested Friday for suspected cocaine possession at the MGM Grand Hotel's Wet Republic pool complex.
Las Vegas police Lt. Michael Mauntel said Stoll is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.
The 32-year-old Stoll is an unrestricted free agent after struggling this season. He had six goals and 11 assists in 73 games, his seventh with Los Angeles after five with Edmonton.
The centre helped the Kings win Stanley Cup titles in 2012 and 2014. Los Angeles missed the playoffs this season.
http://www.tsn.ca/kings-stoll-arrested-in-las-vegas-1.260263 (http://www.tsn.ca/kings-stoll-arrested-in-las-vegas-1.260263)
He must be pretty distraught about not making the playoffs. Poor guy.
Quote from: trapper on April 19, 2015, 08:00:34 PM
This is a generational player we are talking about. I see this in similar light as the Penguins getting Crosby. They already had a young Malkin. They did not have great goal tending.
With Connor...Eberle ... Hall.... I think they will do something in the next couple years...
Crosby alone didn't magically turn around the Penguins.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 19, 2015, 09:05:33 PM
Thanks to the CBA, they have him for quite a while before they have to worry about losing him. If they build a competitive team, with him as the core, them why would he leave? Edm will always have an advantage in signing him, both in money and term.
They have a lot of the pieces, some improvement on D, better coaching and a goalie and they could have something special. They have the fanbase, they just need something for the fans to cheer.
How do you figure? With players like Eberle, Hall, Nugent-Hopkins... They work with the same cap space as 29 other teams. McDavid won't magically fix what ails with the Oilers.
Quote from: galeforce on April 20, 2015, 02:46:02 AM
Can we trade Dave Randorf for Chris Cuthbert? Please?
Or anyone not employed by Sportsnet? Such arid coverage of hockey.
Nicholson takes job as ceo of oilers, coincides days later of Edmonton winning the lottery draft.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 20, 2015, 01:19:55 PM
Crosby alone didn't magically turn around the Penguins.
Never said nor implied that he did.
Quote from: Buckzumhoff on April 21, 2015, 12:09:32 AM
Nicholson takes job as ceo of oilers, coincides days later of Edmonton winning the lottery draft.
(http://forums.oce.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=1664)
Quote from: trapper on April 21, 2015, 03:02:04 PM
Never said nor implied that he did.
Then what are you trying to say? And the Penguins did have great goaltending when Crosby was drafted. He's the current starting goalie for the Penguins.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 21, 2015, 09:08:17 PM
Then what are you trying to say? And the Penguins did have great goaltending when Crosby was drafted. He's the current starting goalie for the Penguins.
I am saying a superstar was added to a roster that had other really good young players.
Great goaltending? Fleury? On what grounds could he be considered great? At best he's above average. You look at his gaa and his save % and he's pretty middle of the road. For the playoffs he's even worse than that.
Crosby turned the Penguins around almost single handedly. Take out Crosby and the Penguins wouldnt have made the playoffs .
Why didnt Nicholson go after a real challenge and look for a job with the Leafs. The Oilers? Anyone running that team as a CEO doesnt have to be a great hockey mind after 6 first round picks there waiting for them. Taking a CEO job with the Oilers is not much of a challenge in hockey.
Chiarelli in Edmonton to discuss a job...
They might be onto something there...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 22, 2015, 07:08:15 PM
Chiarelli in Edmonton to discuss a job...
They might be onto something there...
Chiarelli would be a smart hire. Experience with a winner, has connections and is well respected.
Quote from: Buckzumhoff on April 21, 2015, 12:09:32 AM
Nicholson takes job as ceo of oilers, coincides days later of Edmonton winning the lottery draft.
Nicholson was hired as Vice-Chairman of OEG last summer. He did an audit of the entire organization (including Hockey Operations) and was hired as CEO of Oilers shortly after he finished it.
It's official:
http://www.tsn.ca/chiarelli-the-new-man-in-charge-in-edmonton-1.265198 (http://www.tsn.ca/chiarelli-the-new-man-in-charge-in-edmonton-1.265198)
Peter Chiarelli was named president of hockey operations and general manager while Patrick LaForge stepped down as president and chief operating officer. In addition, Kevin Lowe will transition out of hockey operations but remain vice-chair of Oilers Entertainment Group while Craig MacTavish will move from GM to a role to be determined.
Big move by the Oilers.
No offence to anyone,but here is a Stanley Cup final I bet nobody wants to see,the Tampa Bay Lightning versus the Nashville Predators.
Quote from: royrdsjr on April 26, 2015, 12:52:24 AM
No offence to anyone,but here is a Stanley Cup final I bet nobody wants to see,the Tampa Bay Lightning versus the Nashville Predators.
lol I'll take that bet on a NAH!!! :D :-*
Wow. Canucks up 3-0 in the game and then lose it. They need major player changes on that team.
Quote from: royrdsjr on April 26, 2015, 12:52:24 AM
No offence to anyone,but here is a Stanley Cup final I bet nobody wants to see,the Tampa Bay Lightning versus the Nashville Predators.
Won't happen.
Blues out again in the first round. The San Jose Sharks of the Central Division.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 27, 2015, 01:19:11 PM
Blues out again in the first round. The San Jose Sharks of the Central Division.
They've been doing it since before we were even an idea for a franchise. If anything the Sharks are the Blues of the Pacific.
Quote from: Colton on April 27, 2015, 02:09:11 PM
They've been doing it since before we were even an idea for a franchise. If anything the Sharks are the Blues of the Pacific.
In any case, three straight years getting booted in the first round. Regular season juggernauts, but post-season weaklings. It's pretty weird.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 27, 2015, 04:20:39 PM
In any case, three straight years getting booted in the first round. Regular season juggernauts, but post-season weaklings. It's pretty weird.
I dunno. I look at their roster and coach and it seems pretty obvious to me.
Quote from: Colton on April 27, 2015, 04:28:08 PM
I dunno. I look at their roster and coach and it seems pretty obvious to me.
What do you mean? Is the players or the coach? Or both...?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 27, 2015, 04:36:22 PM
What do you mean? Is the players or the coach? Or both...?
Both
Quote from: Colton on April 27, 2015, 04:56:21 PM
Both
Seems spot on. I wonder if the Blues dismantle and start a rebuild.
Kronwall suspended for tonight's game 7.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 29, 2015, 01:11:11 PM
Kronwall suspended for tonight's game 7.
wow
I like the call
Zidlicky out with a concussion. Yikes.
Sorry Red Wings fans,but congrats to the Lightning. I think that the Canadiens will advance to the finals in the east,& I hope that the Blackhawks will advance in the West,but it probably will be the Anaheim Ducks.
Next season I'm pulling for a Nashville Predators-Carolina Hurricanes Stanley Cup finals.
Quote from: royrdsjr on April 30, 2015, 07:35:16 PM
Next season I'm pulling for a Nashville Predators-Carolina Hurricanes Stanley Cup finals.
I think you might be the only person that would watch that matchup in the finals.
Quote from: royrdsjr on April 30, 2015, 07:35:16 PM
Next season I'm pulling for a Nashville Predators-Carolina Hurricanes Stanley Cup finals.
LOL
Good luck with that.
Could you think of anything MORE unnatural than a Hurricanes-Predators Stanley Cup Finals? ;)
Meanwhile,back to the Ducks-Flames game,CRAP,the Ducks scored again. >:(
Are/were the Jets a more physical team than the Flames? The Flames are getting totally outclassed by the Ducks.
Quote from: royrdsjr on May 01, 2015, 03:19:23 AM
Are/were the Jets a more physical team than the Flames? The Flames are getting totally outclassed by the Ducks.
Absolutely. There was a lot of rah-rah when the Flames beat the Canucks but I didn't really think Vancouver was that tough compared the Anaheim. As we found out, the Ducks are in a class of their own and only Chicago can beat them IMO.
It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the series goes as the jets at least fought these Ducks game in game out. Flames just got out classed! Good luck with that flamers!
The Ducks put on a clinic last night. It's not much consolation, but at least the Jets never got blown out by the Ducks.
I really hope the Flames can turn things around on Sunday.
great year for our Jets & the upstart Flames, both whom, no doubt, will even be better next year. However the Ducks are deserved of going forward
I'm still pulling for the Chicago Blackhawks from the West & the Montreal Canadiens from the East to be in the Stanley Cup finals,but I think maybe the ironic outcome will be the Anaheim Ducks from the West & the Washington Capitals from the East. So far,the Washington Capitals are uncharacteristically NOT CHOKING.
IceCaps new name and logo will be unveiled on Monday:
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/ahl/stjohns/IceCaps-new-name-logo-to-be-unveiled-Monday-302225841.html?cx_navSource=d-tiles-2 (http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/ahl/stjohns/IceCaps-new-name-logo-to-be-unveiled-Monday-302225841.html?cx_navSource=d-tiles-2)
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 01, 2015, 09:37:06 PM
IceCaps new name and logo will be unveiled on Monday:
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/ahl/stjohns/IceCaps-new-name-logo-to-be-unveiled-Monday-302225841.html?cx_navSource=d-tiles-2 (http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/ahl/stjohns/IceCaps-new-name-logo-to-be-unveiled-Monday-302225841.html?cx_navSource=d-tiles-2)
Come on Canadiens & Rangers,because I AM JUST NOT FEELING a Tampa Bay Lightning-Washington Capitals NHL East Final.
***,the Blackhawks & Wild are tied??????
meh, anti climatic Hawks pull it out anyways.
Lightning could strangle hold montreal with another win in La Belle Province.
Someone please hear my humble plea,IF somehow the Tampa Bay Lightning do make it to the finals,PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE DO NOT let Brooke Hogan(Hulk Hogan's daughter) sing the national anthem again like she did the last time that they were in the finals.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 02, 2015, 09:57:20 AM
meh, anti climatic Hawks pull it out anyways.
Lightning could strangle hold montreal with another win in La Belle Province.
Anti-climactic? ???
The Habs and the Flames are done, IMO.
Not a flag waver in the playoffs, so I anticipate & cheer on the Ducks & Bolts
Quote from: Jockitch on May 04, 2015, 01:41:09 PM
Not a flag waver in the playoffs, so I anticipate & cheer on the Ducks & Bolts
ONLY if the Tampa Bay Lightning move to Orlando,then we can have the "Disney" series(Disneyland versus Disney World).
Quote from: royrdsjr on May 04, 2015, 06:34:32 PM
ONLY if the Tampa Bay Lightning move to Orlando,then we can have the "Disney" series(Disneyland versus Disney World).
ugh!
Quote from: royrdsjr on May 04, 2015, 06:34:32 PM
ONLY if the Tampa Bay Lightning move to Orlando,then we can have the "Disney" series(Disneyland versus Disney World).
One of the sunbelt teams actually doing well, IIRC. I'm sure you're being half serious but I doubt the Lightning would ever move.
Quote from: royrdsjr on May 04, 2015, 06:34:32 PM
ONLY if the Tampa Bay Lightning move to Orlando,then we can have the "Disney" series(Disneyland versus Disney World).
Pretty weird post. ???
Just being sarcastic about the Tampa Bay Lighting. Disneyworld is in Orlando,FL,& Disneyland is in Anaheim. That would no doubt be the ONLY thing interesting about a Ducks-Lightning Stanley Cup finals IF the Lightning where in Orlando instead of Tampa Bay. Anyway,I have succumbed to the "Magic Kingdom," Go Ducks!!!
The only original 6 team not disappointing me are the Blackhawks. I looked for yesterday's gametime between the New York Rangers & the Washington Capitals & my guide said "Rangers at Capitals," but my dylexia misinterpreted that as "Rangers at Capitalists." I went to sleep in the middle of the game,& when I woke up to see what the final score was,my only response to the final score was,"the Capitalists won."
Would it be safe to say that the Stanley Cup winner will come out of the Western conference?
Final statement for right now,if both the Canadiens & Rangers are eliminated,& the Ducks do make it to the finals,I want to see them match up against the Washington Capitals,because the Duck's head coach,Bruce Boudreau,was formerly the head coach of the Washington Capitals before the Caps fired him,& that would be sweet revenge if the Ducks defeat the Caps.
That was the worst call Ive seen in a long time. Maybe the worst call in judgement for no goal ever. No goal and the puck can be seen rebounded off the goalies pads a few inches past the line and they call no goal. That beats all .
Good on the Flames for the win - if that's not overcoming adversity, then I don't know what is.
Quote from: BomberPride on May 06, 2015, 11:53:31 AM
Good on the Flames for the win - if that's not overcoming adversity, then I don't know what is.
Less than 19 seconds to go and Johnny Hockey torches Andersen. That was a beauty of a goal to force OT.
Quote from: Buckzumhoff on May 06, 2015, 04:56:21 AM
That was the worst call Ive seen in a long time. Maybe the worst call in judgement for no goal ever. No goal and the puck can be seen rebounded off the goalies pads a few inches past the line and they call no goal. That beats all .
I didn't see the game but from all of the videos I have seen since, not a single one provides a conclusive angle. The puck appears to be in the air which can cause a goal to look like it's in even though it's not from the angles given (For example, Calgary in '04).
Chances are very good that this puck was actually in, but there is no video proving without a doubt that this was the case so there's not much that can be done.
What a finish in Tampa Bay last night. The Capitals have sure pushed the Rangers. Round 2 has been pretty exciting so far.
Jack Adams Coach of The Year nominations: Vigneault, Hartley and Laviolette.
http://www.tsn.ca/vigneault-hartley-laviolette-up-for-jack-adams-1.276851 (http://www.tsn.ca/vigneault-hartley-laviolette-up-for-jack-adams-1.276851)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 07, 2015, 01:50:22 PM
What a finish in Tampa Bay last night. The Capitals have sure pushed the Rangers. Round 2 has been pretty exciting so far.
Jack Adams Coach of The Year nominations: Vigneault, Hartley and Laviolette.
http://www.tsn.ca/vigneault-hartley-laviolette-up-for-jack-adams-1.276851 (http://www.tsn.ca/vigneault-hartley-laviolette-up-for-jack-adams-1.276851)
no PauMau boooo!
If that goal wasn't conclusive then maybe its time to get eyes checked or upgrade your tv.
Habs stay alive in pretty convincing fashion.
Quote from: Buckzumhoff on May 07, 2015, 10:51:32 PM
If that goal wasn't conclusive then maybe its time to get eyes checked or upgrade your tv.
Don't own a TV, it's 2015.
That goal wasn't conclusive, if it were, it would have been ruled a goal. Maybe you should research what perspective is.
Start with these photos:
http://i.imgur.com/O8I15M1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ehywB4y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TrT7z2N.jpg
Looks like the Wild aren't going to make a series out of this one.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 08, 2015, 04:08:43 AM
Looks like the Wild aren't going to make a series out of this one.
Didn't hold a lead for a second of that series. That must have been tough to watch for Wild fans.
Quote from: Colton on May 08, 2015, 04:21:42 AM
Didn't hold a lead for a second of that series. That must have been tough to watch for Wild fans.
Yeah, the Wild's magic seemed to have run out. Crazy finish tonight, though!
Your photos prove conclusively it was a goal. So you do need your eyes checked. Dont buy a television and in debt.
Quote from: Colton on May 08, 2015, 03:20:25 AM
Don't own a TV, it's 2015.
That goal wasn't conclusive, if it were, it would have been ruled a goal. Maybe you should research what perspective is.
Out of curiosity what were you watching the game on? Phone? Tablet? Streaming on computer?
Quote from: Buckzumhoff on May 09, 2015, 01:04:21 AM
Your photos prove conclusively it was a goal. So you do need your eyes checked. Dont buy a television and in debt.
You seriously don't understand the rules of this sport either, do you?
The puck has to completely cross the red line.
I'm not even sure what your last sentence is trying to convey.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on May 09, 2015, 01:38:58 AM
Out of curiosity what were you watching the game on? Phone? Tablet? Streaming on computer?
I stream games to my PC.
Looks like Cagary is dead in the water! And right before Giordano comes back as well :'(
Hate to say it but Flames get curb stomped tonight.
Caps close out Rangers as well.
I think the Habs capital me back to beat the Lightning to.
Rangers and Habs look poised to make come-from-behind series wins.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe the hawks are the only team to not give up 3rd period leads against the ducks?
Overtime loss... what a curbstomp.. ;)
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 10, 2015, 07:37:40 PM
Hate to say it but Flames get curb stomped tonight.
Caps close out Rangers as well.
LOL :D
That crystal ball of yours must be drunk.
Bryan Burns @BBurnsNHL
Ryan Callahan had an emergency appendectomy tonight at Tampa General and his return to the ice is undetermined at this point. #TBLightning
Habs are out. I guess the Price wasn't right and you need more than just goaltending.
I'm looking forward to seeing which team the Lightning will face.
rangers/caps could go either way.
Excited for the Ducks/hawks series.
Ovie shoots scores
RANGERS WIN the RANGERS WIN .................................... Excellant
There's a new drink Called the "Ovechkin"....a white russian, on ice - no cup.
According to The Score, it sounds like the Oilers are closing in on hiring Todd McLellan.
I dislike Lundqvist and the Rangers.
I'd like to se Chicago take it all down again if I had to pick a survivor.
Ottawa Senators owner Eugene Melnyk urgently needs a liver transplant and the NHL club has put out a call for potential "live donor." The team says Melnyk was admitted to hospital three weeks age due to "liver-related complications."
http://www.tsn.ca/sens-owner-melnyk-turns-to-public-for-liver-donor-1.283147 (http://www.tsn.ca/sens-owner-melnyk-turns-to-public-for-liver-donor-1.283147)
And speaking of Ovi... He has announced that he will be going to Prague to join Team Russia for the remainder of the WHC.
As far as the eastern conference goes,I can care less who wins & makes it to the finals,but I'm pulling for the Blackhawks in the western conference.
Triple OT to settle last night's WCF.
Check out the highlights and Shaw's headbutted (rightfully disallowed) goal, it was pretty sweet
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 20, 2015, 12:49:07 PM
Triple OT to settle last night's WCF.
Check out the highlights and Shaw's headbutted (rightfully disallowed) goal, it was pretty sweet.
What a game. Longest playoff game in Blackhawks' history.
Shaw gets an A for effort on that header. But that was an illegal goal through and through.
Mike Babcock to the Maple Leafs for 8 years at $50M... Crazy.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 20, 2015, 08:08:02 PM
Mike Babcock to the Maple Leafs for 8 years at $50M... Crazy.
I'm glad I wasn't browsing the internet the couple of hours beforehand because seeing that at one point it was down to Toronto, St. Louis, and San Jose with St. Louis looking unlikely would have drove me nuts.
Kessel will now learn to be a complete player or it will be hit the road time cause Babcock won't stand for it.
Last night's O.T by 3 was fantastic entertainment (well between yawns at least great) & the goalies were super.
Shaws header is something I will not soon forget ............. creative & looks real sweet in slo mo
Game tonight is worth watching
My 2 bits..
Babcock taking his money. Huge payday.
What he actually needs to produce in TO is very little. Hes the HC and he can only do whats given to him.
He took the money. TO will not be good in 3 years.
Maybe all that money and all that term will force Toronto to be patient and stick to a plan for once...maybe.
Leafs took a good step forward with getting Babcock. But holy cow - for $50 Million.
Remember, Toronto traded for Nathan Horton, a player they can eat millions of dollars of salary on because his contract is guaranteed and Hortion is on the IR and may never play again. This team has huge resources to eat non cap money all day long. $50 mil to get the guy regarded as the best free agent in this years market? Peanut money.
Not too bad of a read: http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/good-luck-with-the-maple-leafs-mike-babcock-you%e2%80%99re-going-to-need-it/ar-BBk1wj7?ocid=iehp (http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/good-luck-with-the-maple-leafs-mike-babcock-you%e2%80%99re-going-to-need-it/ar-BBk1wj7?ocid=iehp)
Former Detroit Red Wings star Slava Fetisov calls for ban on young Russians playing in NHL
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/nhl/former-detroit-red-wings-star-slava-fetisov-calls-for-ban-on-young-russians-playing-in-nhl-304706881.html (http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/nhl/former-detroit-red-wings-star-slava-fetisov-calls-for-ban-on-young-russians-playing-in-nhl-304706881.html)
MOSCOW - Former Detroit Red Wings star Slava Fetisov has called for Russia to reintroduce Soviet-style restrictions to prevent promising young hockey players from moving to the NHL.
Fetisov, who is now a senator in Russia, tells Russia's R-Sport news agency that federal law should be used to stop Russian players from moving to North America before they turn 28.
The aim is to keep "our most talented guys, the ones who the people come to see."
Fetisov was one of the first players to benefit from the relaxation of Soviet-era rules which prevented any hockey players from leaving. He moved to the NHL in 1989 with the New Jersey Devils when he was 31, and went on to win two Stanley Cups with the Red Wings.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 22, 2015, 03:54:24 PM
Former Detroit Red Wings star Slava Fetisov calls for ban on young Russians playing in NHL
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/nhl/former-detroit-red-wings-star-slava-fetisov-calls-for-ban-on-young-russians-playing-in-nhl-304706881.html (http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/nhl/former-detroit-red-wings-star-slava-fetisov-calls-for-ban-on-young-russians-playing-in-nhl-304706881.html)
MOSCOW - Former Detroit Red Wings star Slava Fetisov has called for Russia to reintroduce Soviet-style restrictions to prevent promising young hockey players from moving to the NHL.
Fetisov, who is now a senator in Russia, tells Russia's R-Sport news agency that federal law should be used to stop Russian players from moving to North America before they turn 28.
The aim is to keep "our most talented guys, the ones who the people come to see."
Fetisov was one of the first players to benefit from the relaxation of Soviet-era rules which prevented any hockey players from leaving. He moved to the NHL in 1989 with the New Jersey Devils when he was 31, and went on to win two Stanley Cups with the Red Wings.
Lol to that last line. Seriously Russians are really losing their minds over there. Politics creeping into sport is a sure sign of growing diplomatic tension. Not good at all.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 22, 2015, 05:19:47 PM
Lol to that last line. Seriously Russians are really losing their minds over there. Politics creeping into sport is a sure sign of growing diplomatic tension. Not good at all.
It's a last ditch effort to retain Russian players. They can't pay them, so might as well force them to say. What a disgrace. I expected better from Fetisov, to be honest.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 22, 2015, 06:31:01 PM
It's a last ditch effort to retain Russian players. They can't pay them, so might as well force them to say. What a disgrace. I expected better from Fetisov, to be honest.
I know this is a hockey discussion but we should all be taking note about what's going on in Russia right now. Things are trending in a scary direction.
Fetisov should worry more about what his country is doing to others and not worry about his hockey buddies. Now he is a senator? No wonder they all think like Putin .
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 22, 2015, 07:16:43 PM
I know this is a hockey discussion but we should all be taking note about what's going on in Russia right now. Things are trending in a scary direction.
Oh, I couldn't agree more. Russia seems to be adopting its Soviet strategy of isolation once again and it's sure making its close neighbours nervous.
Anyways, veering off-topic - especially into world politics - should be avoided here. I just found interesting someone like Fetisov, a Russian who got his chance to play hockey thanks to the NHL, is now seemingly so anti-NHL as the KHL continues to crumble.
I think that I'm starting to warm up to the potential of an Anaheim Ducks-Tampa Bay Lightning Stanley Cup finals(Ducks versus the Triplets). I also have to agree with the talking heads that there is no team in the east who can stand up to the Ducks physically.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 22, 2015, 07:16:43 PM
I know this is a hockey discussion but we should all be taking note about what's going on in Russia right now. Things are trending in a scary direction.
Jus gotta say... America has gone off and killed more people and caused more chaos and made the world much more scary then Russia ever has. ISIS is a pretty scary deal.
Anyway... I have zero issue with them wanting to keep their players. The NHL is a bit of a weird deal for sports. Its World wide and all hockey players want to play in it. Not sure i can think of another league in another sport like it.
Ducks take the cup Vs TB in 5
There I said it!!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 26, 2015, 09:05:30 PM
Ducks take the cup Vs TB in 5
There I said it!!
for awhile I was thinking the same thing. But now Rangers and Hawks have forced a game 7.
Would be nice to see another original 6 final...but the beach series could be a clear sweep for the ducks if that happens.
Someone on another board I visit believes that a Ducks-Lightning final is going to be a ratings killer,but I'm of the opinion that people watching the play-offs now aren't going to stop watching just because the Ducks & Lightning advance. Honestly they are stronger teams than the Blackhawks & Rangers,& they'll make a better series.
Quote from: royrdsjr on May 30, 2015, 02:43:28 AM
Honestly they are stronger teams than the Blackhawks & Rangers,& they'll make a better series.
That's simply your opinion. Any of the final four teams facing off in the SCF would make for a great series. Considering both conference finals went the distance to seven games, it's pretty nonsensical to suggest the Lightning and the Ducks are stronger teams than the Rangers and the Blackhawks.
The Lightning showed that they were stronger than the Rangers by defeating them & advancing to the finals,we'll see tonight concerning the Blachawks & the Ducks. My point is more so about people saying that a possible Ducks-Lightning Stanley Cup finals would be a tv ratings killer,& my point was that people watching the Stanley Cup now,won't stop watching because it COULD be the Ducks & Lightning in the finals. I admit,I wasn't keen on the idea,but both series going to 7 games changed my mind & I'm going to keep watching.
Quote from: royrdsjr on May 30, 2015, 09:09:54 PM
My point is more so about people saying that a possible Ducks-Lightning Stanley Cup finals would be a tv ratings killer,& my point was that people watching the Stanley Cup now,won't stop watching because it COULD be the Ducks & Lightning in the finals.
If your point was about TV ratings, why opine on the strength of a team? ::)
Wow... Those Ducks are clearly the stronger team. :D
Always have a back-up plan....& team.
One of the talking heads last night said that a Blackhawks-Lightning series would be Star Trek Warp Speed fast,who'll have home ice advantage betwen the two teams?
Quote from: royrdsjr on May 31, 2015, 02:54:13 AM
Always have a back-up plan....& team.
One of the talking heads last night said that a Blackhawks-Lightning series would be Star Trek Warp Speed fast,who'll have home ice advantage betwen the two teams?
Lightning get home ice advantage.
Hawks absolutely deserved the series win. What a grind.
Bolts Vs Haws... did ANYONE have this down as a series final?
Super happy for Toews
So apparently Tampa is allowing only Florida residents to buy tickets to the Lighting games.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/06/01/bernstein-tampa-bay-lightning-ticket-policy-is-pathetic/
Quote from: True Blue on June 02, 2015, 12:47:20 AM
So apparently Tampa is allowing only Florida residents to buy tickets to the Lighting games.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/06/01/bernstein-tampa-bay-lightning-ticket-policy-is-pathetic/
This has been ongoing the entire post-season since the first round against the Red Wings. It's beyond pathetic. Nashville did this, too.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 02, 2015, 01:35:54 AM
This has been ongoing the entire post-season since the first round against the Red Wings. It's beyond pathetic. Nashville did this, too.
this a thing??? I know there's a lot of clubs that try to boost promotion for their teams to try to get home crowd sell outs, as opposed to travelling fans...Wild come to mind to stop Jets fans from buying tickets... but none that I've seen to actually BAN outside fans from watching their visiting teams.
Quote from: BomberPride on June 02, 2015, 12:17:18 PM
this a thing??? I know there's a lot of clubs that try to boost promotion for their teams to try to get home crowd sell outs, as opposed to travelling fans...Wild come to mind to stop Jets fans from buying tickets... but none that I've seen to actually BAN outside fans from watching their visiting teams.
It's honestly ridiculous and just speaks to a serious lack of sportsmanship. If visiting fans want to fill empty seats and generate revenue, how is that a bad thing?
I didn't know the Wild were part of that group. Talk about classless.
Was reading through my twitter feed last night... apparently fans wearing Hawks jersey's were charged $79 for a beer. another young woman wearing a hawks jersey was handed call girl cards and basically verbally harrassed.
Don't know how much truth there is to this, especially with the beer pricing - but if the Lightening organization has any decency they're going to address this NOW.
I know there's idiots in every fan base (Jets fans have been the subject as well)...but I guess the ones wearing the red jerseys walked out of that arena with the smile on their face.
Quote from: BomberPride on June 04, 2015, 12:30:17 PM
Was reading through my twitter feed last night... apparently fans wearing Hawks jersey's were charged $79 for a beer. another young woman wearing a hawks jersey was handed call girl cards and basically verbally harrassed.
Don't know how much truth there is to this, especially with the beer pricing - but if the Lightening organization has any decency they're going to address this NOW.
I know there's idiots in every fan base (Jets fans have been the subject as well)...but I guess the ones wearing the red jerseys walked out of that arena with the smile on their face.
Canadiens and Rangers fans in the arena wearing jerseys for their team have been forced to lose the jersey or be ejected. Probably happened with Wings fans as well. As BG84 mentioned the Lightning organization has been pathetic throughout the postseason.
Quote from: Colton on June 04, 2015, 02:20:50 PM
Canadiens and Rangers fans in the arena wearing jerseys for their team have been forced to lose the jersey or be ejected. Probably happened with Wings fans as well. As BG84 mentioned the Lightning organization has been pathetic throughout the postseason.
It's beyond classless. This is a disgusting policy and the organization should be ashamed for this lack of sportsmanship.
Quite a snorefest of a game 1 last night. Apparently, the Lightning didn't watch the Jets' first round... You don't sit back and protect a one-goal lead in the playoffs.
Quote from: Colton on June 04, 2015, 02:20:50 PM
Canadiens and Rangers fans in the arena wearing jerseys for their team have been forced to lose the jersey or be ejected. Probably happened with Wings fans as well. As BG84 mentioned the Lightning organization has been pathetic throughout the postseason.
Pretty sure there are "Lightning only" sections of the arena, basically where the TV cameras pan. There are places to wear your opponents shirts.
It is a dick move, really. Restricting ticket sales, and apparel choices goes against what hockey and competition is all about. If anything, it creates a negative atmosphere, with home fans misbehaving towards the opposition.
Sell tickets to everyone, and enforce the ticket back restrictions on excessive alcohol consumption and abusive behaviour. Pretty simple, really.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 04, 2015, 05:08:52 PM
Pretty sure there are "Lightning only" sections of the arena, basically where the TV cameras pan. There are places to wear your opponents shirts.
It is a dick move, really. Restricting ticket sales, and apparel choices goes against what hockey and competition is all about. If anything, it creates a negative atmosphere, with home fans misbehaving towards the opposition.
Sell tickets to everyone, and enforce the ticket back restrictions on excessive alcohol consumption and abusive behaviour. Pretty simple, really.
They have claimed it is only in select areas(Club, Lounge, and one part of section 102 or something like that) but I have seen pictures of ushers/security making Ranger fans remove their jerseys/hats/etc in sections outside of those they claim are the only ones they will do this in (Not that it's even okay to do this in select areas).
From the sounds of it, it is definitely creating an atmosphere that encourages misbehaving towards opposing fans.
Quote from: Colton on June 04, 2015, 05:27:03 PM
From the sounds of it, it is definitely creating an atmosphere that encourages misbehaving towards opposing fans.
Precisely. This is a poor business practice and only fuels animosity.
I couldn't believe it when I heard it . How can they tell someone what they cant wear. Florida owners don't care how small of attendance they get through regular season because the teams are just a tax write off and they don't need to make a profit. Chicago fans should litter the ice and make them look bad wearing Tampa bay uniforms.
I thought this was a joke... But apparently, it isn't:
http://www.tampabay.com/projects/2015/sports/lightning/bandwagon/ (http://www.tampabay.com/projects/2015/sports/lightning/bandwagon/)
(http://lockerroom.johnlocke.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/picarddoublefacepalm.jpg)
And I used to think the Lightning fanbase was among the best of the sunbelt franchises... :-\
Another biting controversy... ::)
http://www.tsn.ca/shaw-doesn-t-deny-biting-hedman-1.300845 (http://www.tsn.ca/shaw-doesn-t-deny-biting-hedman-1.300845)
TAMPA, Fla. - Andrew Shaw didn't deny biting Victor Hedman in Game 1 of the Stanley Cup final. He just doesn't want to talk about it anymore.
"I mean it's a hockey game," Shaw said Friday. "He's one of the best players and he's a highly skilled, big, strong defenceman with a lot of speed and he went after one of our better players.
"It creates the scrums, and just battle out there. I expect battles with him at the front of the net the rest of the series, as well."
The Chicago Blackhawks forward said he wasn't "going to get into the details."
The Tampa Bay Lightning's top defenceman similarly didn't want to comment on the biggest controversy of Game 1.
"Things happen during games," Hedman said. "I'll leave it at that."
Hedman shoved Blackhawks star Patrick Kane into the boards after a whistle late in the first period, and Shaw went after him. Upon returning to the bench, Hedman lifted up his jersey and appeared to tell assistant athletic trainer Mike Poirier that Shaw bit him.
"Everyone who watched that could see what I said," Hedman said. "If you saw that, I don't have to say anymore."
Hedman brushed off Shaw not being disciplined by the NHL for biting, saying: "It's hockey."
The 23-year-old Shaw isn't concerned about retaliation from the Lightning.
"I expect they're going to come out and play hard," he said. "They're a great team with a lot of skill, a lot of speed. It's going to be a long series."
Gotta say I'm sick of hockey it just goes on to long!
It would be good if Chicago just comes out and wins 4-1 and puts a bloody end to it all!
That won't happen, seeing as how they're down 2-1.
Quote from: BomberPride on June 09, 2015, 12:26:03 PM
That won't happen, seeing as how they're down 2-1.
Another late-game collapse by the Hawks. On home ice, too.
Despite a brutal start, the Hawks find a way to finish. Series tied going back to TB.
In other hockey news, Glendale pulls a classy move:
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/glendale-votes-to-cancel-arena-deal-1.305250 (http://www.tsn.ca/talent/glendale-votes-to-cancel-arena-deal-1.305250)
During a special meeting convened Wednesday night that featured threats of a $200-million lawsuit and emotional fans wearing team jerseys, city councillors in Glendale, Arizona, voted to cancel the arena management contract that sees the city pay $15 million a year to the Arizona Coyotes.
What an absolute joke. Has that franchise even generated a penny in profit for the NHL since relocated from Winnipeg?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 11, 2015, 03:31:09 PM
Despite a brutal start, the Hawks find a way to finish. Series tied going back to TB.
In other hockey news, Glendale pulls a classy move:
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/glendale-votes-to-cancel-arena-deal-1.305250 (http://www.tsn.ca/talent/glendale-votes-to-cancel-arena-deal-1.305250)
During a special meeting convened Wednesday night that featured threats of a $200-million lawsuit and emotional fans wearing team jerseys, city councillors in Glendale, Arizona, voted to cancel the arena management contract that sees the city pay $15 million a year to the Arizona Coyotes.
What an absolute joke. Has that franchise even generated a penny in profit for the NHL since relocated from Winnipeg?
has got to be the hardest team ever in north america to be a fan of. Bettman is laughable when he says it'll work there still. It's bloody creepy how devoted he is to that loser location etc, etc?.it's like he could die if that teams leaves Zona!
am sure Scott Oake wanted to beat Bettman & his smug face, when basically shrugging off Oake's question as if it is not an issue.
Really wish that franchise would just relocate. I'm tired of hearing about how it isn't fair to the couple of thousand fans who actually care. The team being in Arizona isn't fair to a much much larger number of people in cities that the team could and should be in. If people in Arizona actually do care about hockey, put an AHL or ECHL team in there. It will be cheaper for them and the abysmal attendance and support won't hurt the league nearly as much as the Coyotes do to the NHL.
There can only be a set amount of NHL franchises. The fact that one of those is wasted on the Coyotes is a shame.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 11, 2015, 06:38:44 PM
has got to be the hardest team ever in north america to be a fan of. Bettman is laughable when he says it'll work there still. It's bloody creepy how devoted he is to that loser location etc, etc?.it's like he could die if that teams leaves Zona!
I think he doesn't want to admit failure.
Quote from: Colton on June 11, 2015, 07:54:43 PM
Really wish that franchise would just relocate. I'm tired of hearing about how it isn't fair to the couple of thousand fans who actually care. The team being in Arizona isn't fair to a much much larger number of people in cities that the team could and should be in. If people in Arizona actually do care about hockey, put an AHL or ECHL team in there. It will be cheaper for them and the abysmal attendance and support won't hurt the league nearly as much as the Coyotes do to the NHL.
There can only be a set amount of NHL franchises. The fact that one of those is wasted on the Coyotes is a shame.
I don't think people in Arizona care for the most part. Even when the Coyotes have been a good team, attendance was bad.
Relocate the Coyotes to Seattle (when it's feasible) and move the fan-less Panthers to Quebec City within the next two years.
What an absolute farce that organization has become. I feel bad for the fans.
Quote from: BomberPride on June 12, 2015, 12:21:39 PM
What an absolute farce that organization has become. I feel bad for the fans.
This latest crap makes the City of Glendale look like a farce (again), not the Coyotes.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on June 12, 2015, 03:01:00 PM
This latest crap makes the City of Glendale look like a farce (again), not the Coyotes.
Precisely. The franchise itself is not to blame at all. The City of Glendale's actions are disgraceful.
Arizona Coyotes seek restraining order against city of Glendale
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/arizona-coyotes-seek-restraining-order-against-city-of-glendale-201008932.html;_ylt=A0LEVzNNWX1VL.4AL2ZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyMjg0cXZqBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDQjAxNjJfMQRzZWMDc2M-
I'm trying to figure out just how successful the Hurricanes & the Predators are in their respective areas as far as fan support goes. I admit that the Lightning are successful,so are the California teams for the most part. The Stars are also successful in Texas. Would a more objective mind grade the NHL teams in non-traditional hockey cities,besides the Coyotes & Panthers,& whether they should stay where they're at or move to a more viable location,or maybe better yet,the NHL contract itself down to a more viable number of teams?
Successful how...?
Do they generate profit for the NHL? Cheap ticket prices and package deals seem to indicate otherwise.
When a sunbelt team is struggling on the ice, is the fan support there? Looking at Dallas and Carolina this past season. It seems like fans are quick to bail.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 14, 2015, 07:12:36 PM
Successful how...?
Do they generate profit for the NHL? Cheap ticket prices and package deals seem to indicate otherwise.
When a sunbelt team is struggling on the ice, is the fan support there? Looking at Dallas and Carolina this past season. It seems like fans are quick to bail.
The Predators do have a successful on ice product,& it helps that they are the only major sports team going on in Nashville during the winter season(& it was genius to trade for Carrie Underwood's husband when they did). They have no competition from the NBA or from college sports. The Hurricanes would have competition from the Duke Blue Devils,with the UNC Tar Heels going through a major scandal right now,that's one less thing to worry about. They do need to put a winning product on the ice though. The same would go with the Dallas Stars.
And the Chicago Blackhawks are the 2015 Stanley Cup Champions!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 16, 2015, 03:00:00 AM
And the Chicago Blackhawks are the 2015 Stanley Cup Champions!
With apologies to die hard NHL fans, count me as glad the season is finally over. Waaaayyyy too long! :D
Quote from: ModAdmin on June 16, 2015, 03:12:25 AM
With apologies to die hard NHL fans, count me as glad the season is finally over. Waaaayyyy too long! :D
Oh, I couldn't agree more. The NHL season should be done by the end of May at least the latest. This nonsense into mid-June is too much.
Although, I'm sure I'd be saying differently if it's the Jets hoisting the Stanley Cup. ;D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 16, 2015, 03:19:01 AM
Although, I'm sure I'd be saying differently if it's the Jets hoisting the Stanley Cup. ;D
You mean "when". ;D
lol yeah, I watch from beginning to end, but man the NHL season just goes on forever. I was thinking about it last night watching the Cup ceremony and remember watching a Jets preseason game during/after a Bomber game in September and remember how different my life was then and how much has changed just during one NHL season lol.
Toews now has three Cups. Unreal.
I agree the season is wicked to long. I really didn't watch the final just FF it taped delayed.
Toews is amazing. It'll be interesting what there team looks like next year!
Quote from: blue_or_die on June 16, 2015, 12:51:30 PM
lol yeah, I watch from beginning to end, but man the NHL season just goes on forever. I was thinking about it last night watching the Cup ceremony and remember watching a Jets preseason game during/after a Bomber game in September and remember how different my life was then and how much has changed just during one NHL season lol.
Toews now has three Cups. Unreal.
3 Cups, plus...
Winter Olympics
Gold medal ? first place 2014 Sochi
Gold medal ? first place 2010 Vancouver
World Championships
Silver medal ? second place 2008 Canada
Gold medal ? first place 2007 Russia
World Junior Championships
Gold medal ? first place 2007 Sweden
Gold medal ? first place 2006 Canada
World U-17 Hockey Challenge
Gold medal ? first place 2005 Alberta
That 2008 Silver Medal tarnishes everything (pardon the pun...)
Not bad for a guy that is 27...
ICYMI, Erik Johnson and Jordan Staal picked ahead of him in 2006.
Quote from: Stretch on June 16, 2015, 11:15:16 AM
You mean "when". ;D
Haha, right you are! ;)
I think Toews is the most complete player in the NHL.
Michael @Large_Soda
Waking up in a cold sweat, Mrs. McGuire trembles from the realization that the playoffs are over and now Pierre will be home for months.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 16, 2015, 05:28:51 PM
Haha, right you are! ;)
I think Toews is the most complete player in the NHL.
I agree easy.
a lot of Dynasty talk about Chicago, and already picked to be next season's champs.
Media is BSing us the hawk thing is a dynasty no doubt! 3 in 6 years certainly qualifies in my books any day.
Anyone who says nah it's not is just jealous.
I see a lot of critics saying there's no comparison to the dynastic teams of the 70s and 80s like the Canadiens, Oilers, and Islanders, but that was a totally different time. Of course there is no comparison. It's like comparing Lemieux to Crosby... It makes very little sense.
In today's NHL with the salary cap and unprecedented parity, I'd say the achievement of three championships in six years qualifies as a dynasty.
Definitely a dynasty in my mind. 3 in 6 years is something we very well could never see again barring any big changes to how to league functions.
Quote from: Colton on June 17, 2015, 11:07:24 PM
Definitely a dynasty in my mind. 3 in 6 years is something we very well could never see again barring any big changes to how to league functions.
This is true. And here's something to consider: the Blackhawks are the only franchise to have done this since the salary cap was introduced and only the second team to have done this since the 1994-95 lockout.
For the most difficult trophy to win in sports, doing so three times in twice as many years is impressive to say the least.
I agree. I don't know of another well rounded team in the NHL right now.
Yep. Dynasty no doubt
and now for the rest of the league...
there is no doubt in my mind that Kessel will be traded. Leaf's need some solid goal tending to stop spinning their tires, imo. Cam Talbot seems to be the name that floats around for goalies that can help a team. I see no reason to keep Reimer and Bernier... to me it seems the team seems to adopt the "it's better than nothing" with this tandem. After sinking 50 mil for a coach I wonder if they'll have the cash to upgrade that position.
Quote from: BomberPride on June 19, 2015, 02:32:02 PM
and now for the rest of the league...
there is no doubt in my mind that Kessel will be traded. Leaf's need some solid goal tending to stop spinning their tires, imo. Cam Talbot seems to be the name that floats around for goalies that can help a team. I see no reason to keep Reimer and Bernier... to me it seems the team seems to adopt the "it's better than nothing" with this tandem. After sinking 50 mil for a coach I wonder if they'll have the cash to upgrade that position.
To upgrade their goalie situation...? Well, that $50M for Babcock doesn't come out of the players' salary cap, so that shouldn't be an issue.
That being said, I don't think it matters what they do between the pipes until they fix what's wrong in front, namely on the blue line.
NHL, NHLPA announce salary cap increase:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-nhlpa-announce-cap-increase-1.315746 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-nhlpa-announce-cap-increase-1.315746)
The league and Players' Association announced Tuesday that the cap will be US$71.4 million for 2015-16.
That's a $2.1-million increase from this season's $69 million, more than expected a few months ago.
Bob McKenzie ✔ @TSNBobMcKenzie
Pending B of G approval, NHL will go to 3-on-3 overtime for 5 minutes in regular season games next season.
Boooooo ...... the wealthy hockey players do not want to play extra time .......... fans should be seeing some quick finishes
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on June 24, 2015, 12:14:03 AM
Bob McKenzie ✔ @TSNBobMcKenzie
Pending B of G approval, NHL will go to 3-on-3 overtime for 5 minutes in regular season games next season.
How ridiculous.
More fun than 3 on 3 overtime, they are talking a 3 on 3 tournament for the all star game. That would be hilarious, especially if they do it in half rink configuration.
not a big Oiler fan "yet" but I would suggest they might land a good to very good goalie in the Ranger's Talbot if they moved Draisaitl.
what's more important for the leafs right now... Draft or trade?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 24, 2015, 04:05:11 PM
How ridiculous.
If anything it should reduce the number of shoot-outs which should make some happy.
Quote from: Rhapsody in Blue on June 24, 2015, 08:22:27 PM
If anything it should reduce the number of shoot-outs which should make some happy.
That remains to be seen, IMO. 4-on-4 OT didn't solve much, so I remain skeptical getting rid of two more players on the ice will make a difference.
5 mins. of 4-on-4 and 5 mins. of 3-on-3. If the game ends with a tie, award each team a point and be done with it.
Personally, I think we should go back to the sudden death OT. I hate losing on shoot-outs.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 24, 2015, 08:37:23 PM
That remains to be seen, IMO. 4-on-4 OT didn't solve much, so I remain skeptical getting rid of two more players on the ice will make a difference.
5 mins. of 4-on-4 and 5 mins. of 3-on-3. If the game ends with a tie, award each team a point and be done with it.
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/nhlpa-earns-a-win-for-3-on-3-ot-change-1.316355 (http://www.tsn.ca/talent/nhlpa-earns-a-win-for-3-on-3-ot-change-1.316355)
Apparently they experimented with these new rules and it solved 75% of post-regulation vs. 35% using the traditional rules. If that translates to the NHL level, that's a dramatic improvement! Anything to eliminate shoot outs. They're fun to watch when you're on the winning side only!
I'm not sure I understand the logic of trying to eliminate a "gimmick" in the form of a shootout, by changing the five minutes before they get there into another gimmick.
I'll wait until I see it in action before I decide if I like the change or not though.
Report: Stoll's cocaine possession charge dismissed:
http://www.tsn.ca/report-stoll-s-cocaine-possession-charge-dismissed-1.317609 (http://www.tsn.ca/report-stoll-s-cocaine-possession-charge-dismissed-1.317609)
No surprises here. ::)
Quote from: Colton on June 25, 2015, 02:22:07 PM
I'm not sure I understand the logic of trying to eliminate a "gimmick" in the form of a shootout, by changing the five minutes before they get there into another gimmick.
I'll wait until I see it in action before I decide if I like the change or not though.
Well, at least 3-on-3 is still hockey. That must be the logic.
Quote from: blue_or_die on June 25, 2015, 06:13:44 PM
Well, at least 3-on-3 is still hockey. That must be the logic.
I have a hard time considered 3 on 3 legitimate hockey. The situations in which this occur in regulation are extremely few and far between. At the very least 4 on 4 and breakaways are routine situations in regulation.
Quote from: Colton on June 25, 2015, 06:29:41 PM
I have a hard time considered 3 on 3 legitimate hockey. The situations in which this occur in regulation are extremely few and far between. At the very least 4 on 4 and breakaways are routine situations in regulation.
lol ya it's definitely not legitimate, just more so than a skills competition. This is a "choosing the lesser of two evils" situation.
Quote from: Colton on June 25, 2015, 06:29:41 PM
I have a hard time considered 3 on 3 legitimate hockey. The situations in which this occur in regulation are extremely few and far between. At the very least 4 on 4 and breakaways are routine situations in regulation.
This. 3-on-3 hockey is strange to me. Sure, it opens up more ice but is it going be exciting to watch as a fan? I'm not so sure.
Quote from: blue_or_die on June 25, 2015, 08:37:59 PM
This is a "choosing the lesser of two evils" situation.
Seems to be the case. The fact there is still a shootout creams my corn, though.
Lehner traded to Buffalo for Legwand.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 25, 2015, 08:54:57 PM
This. 3-on-3 hockey is strange to me. Sure, it opens up more ice but is it going be exciting to watch as a fan? I'm not so sure.
With more open ice it makes room for breakaways and the skill players to do what they don't get to do as often when they're shut down. This should lead to quicker goals and therefore avoid the shootout. Remains to be seen if this will work but I think it will be fun to watch. Worked in the A.
Flames acquire D Dougie Hamilton:
http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-trade-d-hamilton-to-flames-1.318825 (http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-trade-d-hamilton-to-flames-1.318825)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2015, 07:26:35 PM
Flames acquire D Dougie Hamilton:
http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-trade-d-hamilton-to-flames-1.318825 (http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-trade-d-hamilton-to-flames-1.318825)
RIP Bruins fans.
Quote from: Colton on June 26, 2015, 08:27:44 PM
RIP Bruins fans.
Bahaha... And Lucic to the Kings for a pick and G Martin Jones.
http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-close-to-deal-lucic-to-kings-1.318890 (http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-close-to-deal-lucic-to-kings-1.318890)
Wow... Bruins are in full-on tank mode. LOL :D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2015, 09:08:19 PM
Bahaha... And Lucic to the Kings for a pick and G Martin Jones.
http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-close-to-deal-lucic-to-kings-1.318890 (http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-close-to-deal-lucic-to-kings-1.318890)
Wow... Bruins are in full-on tank mode. LOL :D
I hate Lucic and think trading him away is great, but for Martin Jones? What?
And to LA? Come on! Now I have to both see his disgusting face on my screen 6+ times a year and fear for the health of every member of the Sharks organization any time he steps on the ice.
Quote from: Colton on June 26, 2015, 09:13:19 PM
I hate Lucic and think trading him away is great, but for Martin Jones? What?
And to LA? Come on! Now I have to both see his disgusting face on my screen 6+ times a year and fear for the health of every member of the Sharks organization any time he steps on the ice.
Right...? LOL :D
I have a friend who says he'd take Lucic on the Jets. Blegh... No. Just no.
Bahahaha, Bruins retained close to half of Lucic's salary.
They are pushing waaay too hard for Hanafin when in all likelyhood, won't even be as good of a defenseman as Hamilton.
I swear, if the Sharks move their first for something that doesn't include a top 8 pick I'm going to be so pissed off.
Avalanche trade F Ryan O'Reilly and F Jamie McGinn to the Sabres.
F Mikhail Grigorenko, D Nikita Zadorov, F JT Compher, and the 31st overall pick going to the Avalanche.
Confirmed:
http://www.tsn.ca/avalanche-trade-o-reilly-to-sabres-1.318992 (http://www.tsn.ca/avalanche-trade-o-reilly-to-sabres-1.318992)
And McDavid goes first overall. No surprises there.
draft was boring until jets went twice
I thought the three picks in a row by the Bruins was fairly interesting. Never thought I'd see that outside a video game.
Les Habitants had 1, 2, 3 in 1968. A horrible draft year, by the looks of it, I don't recognize and of the names... Plasse played 32 games for montreal, picks 2 and 3, none...
1 Michel Plasse Goaltender Canada Montreal Canadiens Drummondville Rangers (QJHL)
2 Roger Belisle Centre Canada Montreal Canadiens Montreal North Beavers (LHIQ)
3 Jim Pritchard Defence Canada Montreal Canadiens Winnipeg Jets (WCHL)
4 Garry Swain Centre Canada Pittsburgh Penguins Niagara Falls Flyers (OHA)
5 Jim Benzelock Right Wing Canada Minnesota North Stars Winnipeg Jets (WCHL)
6 Gary Edwards Goaltender Canada St. Louis Blues Toronto Marlboros (OHA)
7 Jim McInally Defence Canada Los Angeles Kings Hamilton Red Wings (OHA)
8 Lew Morrison Right Wing Canada Philadelphia Flyers Flin Flon Bombers (WCHL)
9 John Marks Left Wing Canada Chicago Black Hawks North Dakota Fighting Sioux (NCAA)
10 Brad Selwood Defence Canada Toronto Maple Leafs Niagara Falls Flyers (OHA)
11 Steve Andrascik Right Wing Canada Detroit Red Wings Flin Flon Bombers (WCHL)
12 Danny Schock Left Wing Canada Boston Bruins Estevan Bruins (WCHL)
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/winners--losers-of-the-2015-nhl-draft-210315070.html (https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/winners--losers-of-the-2015-nhl-draft-210315070.html)
Lots of good stuff in this link. Check it out.
This is definitely neat:
WINNER: Andong Song
The 18-year old defenseman became the first player born in China to be drafted when he was taken No. 172 by the New York Islanders. His entire draft weekend was documented by Chinese TV station CCTV. After moving to Canada at age 10, he then went to New Jersey at 15 to play at the Lawrenceville School. With the Asian market one the NHL is hoping to crack, Song?s success in professional hockey on this side of the Pacific Ocean could do wonders to help grow the sport there.
I know hockey's popularity in Japan has increased a lot the last decade or so but this development could tap into a massive market on the Asian mainland.
I use The Hockey news Draft preview magazine to get psyched for the draft.
So Dallas (not a big fan of), in the 1st Round in the #12 spot, goes way off the board & picks #66 ranked winger Guryanov ........... I said ***
Then I remembered the shock, as a fan, for the Jets first historical Draft into their 1st year, 1979, into the NHL.
The Jets GM Smith picked Jimmy Mann as our 1st round selection ........ Jet fans were stunned as were the draft hosts & talent gurus.
Mann plays 293 games in the NHL with a total of 10 goals & 20 assists to show.
Same Draft, the Jets pick Dave Christian in the 2nd round who goes onto get 340 goals & 773 points in 1009 NHL games
In the 5th round we get Thomas Steen who collects 817 points in 950 games.
Guess my point is ..... the Draft can be a let down (i.e. Dallas fans) at first blush, but only time will tell at how many home runs are hit in the choices made.
Sweeney just gave up a 3rd round pick for Zac Rinaldo. Rinaldo is the type of player you need to trade packaged with a 3rd round pick for no return to get rid of.
It's starting to look like the Bruins got themselves a modern day Mike Milbury running the show.
2015 HHOF Inductees: Fedorov, Pronger, Lidstrom, Housley, and Ruggiero.
http://www.tsn.ca/fedorov-lidstrom-pronger-housley-in-2015-hhof-class-1.321225 (http://www.tsn.ca/fedorov-lidstrom-pronger-housley-in-2015-hhof-class-1.321225)
Nicklas Lidstrom, Sergei Fedorov, Chris Pronger, Phil Housley and Angela Ruggiero will be inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame as the Class of 2015.
Bill Hay and Peter Karmanos were also inducted as builders.In other news, the Kings terminate F Richards' contract:
http://www.tsn.ca/kings-opt-to-terminate-richards-contract-1.321200 (http://www.tsn.ca/kings-opt-to-terminate-richards-contract-1.321200)
Quote
"The Los Angeles Kings today have exercised the team?s right to terminate the contract of Mike Richards for a material breach of the requirements of his Standard Player?s Contract," the Kings said in a statement. "We are not prepared to provide any more detail or to discuss the underlying grounds for the contract termination at this time."
No details regarding the violation... Strange.
So does this make Richards an FA? Any guesses from folks who picks him up and how much money he makes?
IMO might be a good pickup for a contender looking to bust through. Would give some size to Montreal's so-so offense. Maybe NYR? I wonder what he's willing to play for, but then again there will be no shortage of teams interested, so the market will dictate that.
Quote from: blue_or_die on June 29, 2015, 08:34:03 PM
So does this make Richards an FA? Any guesses from folks who picks him up and how much money he makes?
IMO might be a good pickup for a contender looking to bust through. Would give some size to Montreal's so-so offense. Maybe NYR? I wonder what he's willing to play for, but then again there will be no shortage of teams interested, so the market will dictate that.
He's a free agent. I have no idea what happens to him now, though. I think any team interested knows the risks involved. And whatever happens, he'll be making peanuts compared to what he had been making.
Speaking of free agents, who else is stoked for July 1? Canada Day celebrations aside, it's always fun to see who ends up where.
http://www.tsn.ca/tsn-s-top-unrestricted-free-agents-1.316769 (http://www.tsn.ca/tsn-s-top-unrestricted-free-agents-1.316769)
Mike Reilly should be off the list. He signed with the Wild on the 26th, IIRC.
Pretty juicy list. Hard to think any of these would be interesting to Chevy (for the price most would cost), and if any would want to play here.
Quote from: blue_or_die on June 29, 2015, 08:46:21 PM
Pretty juicy list. Hard to think any of these would be interesting to Chevy (for the price most would cost), and if any would want to play here.
Frolik's been getting a lost of interest. I fail to see how the Jets keep him.
I would like to see Stafford return, though. As for the others, I haven't the slightest clue.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 29, 2015, 08:41:11 PM
He's a free agent. I have no idea what happens to him now, though. I think any team interested knows the risks involved. And whatever happens, he'll be making peanuts compared to what he had been making.
Speaking of free agents, who else is stoked for July 1? Canada Day celebrations aside, it's always fun to see who ends up where.
http://www.tsn.ca/tsn-s-top-unrestricted-free-agents-1.316769 (http://www.tsn.ca/tsn-s-top-unrestricted-free-agents-1.316769)
Mike Reilly should be off the list. He signed with the Wild on the 26th, IIRC.
I'm usually glued to a screen on July 1st, but I don't even think I'll be tuning in this year. Not many names I have even slight interest in.
Also, Eff Ribeiro, Can't believe he is listed as a top 5 free agent.
There are a few decent scorers on this list.
Hopefully the Jets had some salary cap room to sign a few.
The whole Richards thing is crazy. But I can understand it, a great use of "the rules".
Here's the question. They void his contract, and take 1.35mil/yr in cap hit. He sues in civil court, and wins (because they've set a precident with other teammates with criminal charges not being canned). He either settles for 1/2 up front, or gets a judgement for payment of his contract in full, LA appeals and settles out of court for 1/2.
Does that 1/2 become cap hit? Or do they sidestep the cap because it is a civil court payment?
If Richards takes this "buyout", does the NHLPA still launch a grievance? Can they without his participation? To protect the rest of their players?
SMS cap for haves and have nots makes this kinda thing a lawyers wet dream. Toronto eating Horton's non-SMS contract last year is opening up all kinds of creative SMS / budget possibilities between those flush with cash they can't spend on players, and those with hard budget concerns and SMS floor player budgets.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 30, 2015, 03:28:05 PM
The whole Richards thing is crazy. But I can understand it, a great use of "the rules".
Here's the question. They void his contract, and take 1.35mil/yr in cap hit. He sues in civil court, and wins (because they've set a precident with other teammates with criminal charges not being canned). He either settles for 1/2 up front, or gets a judgement for payment of his contract in full, LA appeals and settles out of court for 1/2.
Does that 1/2 become cap hit? Or do they sidestep the cap because it is a civil court payment?
If Richards takes this "buyout", does the NHLPA still launch a grievance? Can they without his participation? To protect the rest of their players?
SMS cap for haves and have nots makes this kinda thing a lawyers wet dream. Toronto eating Horton's non-SMS contract last year is opening up all kinds of creative SMS / budget possibilities between those flush with cash they can't spend on players, and those with hard budget concerns and SMS floor player budgets.
If it was considered to be wrongful termination I would expect the Kings to get hit with some cap circumvention penalties a la NJ with Kovalchuk.
Apparently, the rumour regarding an incident at a border crossing is pretty accurate. Pierre McGuire reported on this yesterday and CBC just released this:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/mike-richards-part-of-rcmp-investigation-report-1.3133350 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/mike-richards-part-of-rcmp-investigation-report-1.3133350)
This sounds pretty serious.
I hate being a Sharks fan so much right now.
Quote from: Colton on June 30, 2015, 05:05:16 PM
I hate being a Sharks fan so much right now.
Could be a Bruins fan. ;)
Jones goes from one coast to the other... And back to the other coast.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 30, 2015, 05:06:18 PM
Could be a Bruins fan. ;)
Jones goes from one coast to the other... And back to the other coast.
I'll take Don Sweeney right now, he just turned Wilson's absolute stupidity into Milan Lucic for 2 firsts.
Quote from: Colton on June 30, 2015, 05:09:16 PM
I'll take Don Sweeney right now, he just turned Wilson's absolute stupidity into Milan Lucic for 2 firsts.
Gotta love Carlo...
carlo todaro @juventus777JETS
Don Sweeney : " We are not trading Tukka Rask " Tukka Rask : FML #Bruins #NHL
carlo todaro @juventus777JETS
The #Raptors have traded Luke Ridnour to the Boston Bruins for Patrice Bergeron ! Sweeney : We needed some size #NHL #Bruins #Raptors
Quote from: Colton on June 30, 2015, 05:09:16 PM
I'll take Don Sweeney right now, he just turned Wilson's absolute stupidity into Milan Lucic for 2 firsts.
Yeah, that was pretty clever. I'm still not sure what to think of letting Hamilton go and picking up Rinaldo.
And how about Hextall getting rid of Pronger and Grossman for Gagner...? Crazy.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 30, 2015, 05:54:39 PM
Yeah, that was pretty clever. I'm still not sure what to think of letting Hamilton go and picking up Rinaldo.
And how about Hextall getting rid of Pronger and Grossman for Gagner...? Crazy.
Sweeney is still pretty bad, We just seem to have it worse at times and definitely got swindled by him here.
I'm not a big fan of the Coyotes acquiring Pronger's contract. I agree with the sentiment that it's borderline cap circumvention and definitely agree with the sentiment of Coyotes fans pissed off that the organization would rather do something like this just to save money than actually attempt to field a competitive hockey team.
QuoteThis kind of blatant cap floor circumvention is faaar more offensive to me than cap circumvention a la (kovalchuk) - I'd rather see a team push the rules to try and WIN than to try and lose.
Saad to the Blue Jackets:
http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-trade-saad-to-blue-jackets-1.322217 (http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-trade-saad-to-blue-jackets-1.322217)
The Chicago Blackhawks have traded left wing Brandon Saad along with Michael Paliotta and Alex Broadhurst to the Columbus Blue Jackets in exchange for forwards Artem Anisimov, Marko Dano, Jeremy Morin and Corey Tropp and a fourth-round selection in the 2016 NHL Draft.
Another Canuck goes to the Ducks:
http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-trade-bieksa-to-ducks-1.322286 (http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-trade-bieksa-to-ducks-1.322286)
The Vancouver Canucks have traded defenceman Kevin Bieksa to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for a 2016 second-round draft pick.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 30, 2015, 09:33:27 PM
Saad to the Blue Jackets:
http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-trade-saad-to-blue-jackets-1.322217 (http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-trade-saad-to-blue-jackets-1.322217)
The Chicago Blackhawks have traded left wing Brandon Saad along with Michael Paliotta and Alex Broadhurst to the Columbus Blue Jackets in exchange for forwards Artem Anisimov, Marko Dano, Jeremy Morin and Corey Tropp and a fourth-round selection in the 2016 NHL Draft.
Every Hawks fan on earth was adamant that this would not happen, kinda funny it did.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 30, 2015, 10:17:52 PM
Another Canuck goes to the Ducks:
http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-trade-bieksa-to-ducks-1.322286 (http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-trade-bieksa-to-ducks-1.322286)
The Vancouver Canucks have traded defenceman Kevin Bieksa to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for a 2016 second-round draft pick.
So we couldn't get the deal done with the Canucks who ended up wanting a 2nd, 3rd, and 7th for Beiksa and Lack, but we will give up a possible lottery 1st + prospect in the first year of a much more valued lottery pick for a goalie arguably no better than Lack...
Bieksa was house shopping in SJ, how did Wilson not make that trade happen...?
http://nypost.com/2015/06/30/arizona-coyotes-to-move-to-las-vegas-under-new-owner/
Did July 1 become another fools day? Or could this be real?
Sin City is getting hockey, two sources close to the situation told The Post.
The NHL is arranging the sale of the Arizona Coyotes to billionaire William Foley who will move the team to Las Vegas giving it its first major professional franchise, one source said.
?Las Vegas has reached 10,000 season ticket deposits,? enough to justify a franchise, the other source said.
Foley said in January that he needed 10,000 ticket deposits to get an NHL team.
Foley will move them for the 2016-17 season, the source said. The Post last year was the first to report Foley was backing a Vegas franchise.
MGM Resorts and arena operator AEG are building a 20,000 seat hockey-ready arena in Las Vegas that is slated to open in spring 2016.
A Coyotes spokesman said, ?The Coyotes are committed to playing in Arizona.? When asked for how long, the spokesman reiterated it was committed to playing in Arizona. ?Period.? Arizona last year ranked 28th in attendance.
Meanwhile, the City Council in Glendale, Ariz., last month voted to terminate its lease agreement that expires in 2028 that has the city paying the team $15 million a year for a share of revenue.
The NHL is also eyeing expansion franchises in the Toronto and Seattle areas for the 2017-18 season, a source said.
The NHL announced it was accepting applications for expansion franchises from July 6 until Aug. 10.
Former Bauer Hockey Chairman Graeme Roustan is the lead person putting together a Toronto-area expansion team bid.
The NHL denied the story.
Foley and Roustan did not return calls.
Quote from: Colton on June 30, 2015, 11:09:30 PM
So we couldn't get the deal done with the Canucks who ended up wanting a 2nd, 3rd, and 7th for Beiksa and Lack, but we will give up a possible lottery 1st + prospect in the first year of a much more valued lottery pick for a goalie arguably no better than Lack...
Bieksa was house shopping in SJ, how did Wilson not make that trade happen...?
Because lately Doug Wilson has been slightly incompetent. Aside from locking up Martin Jones. Sorry, Colton, I know you're a SJ fan/ ;D
Quote from: theaardvark on July 01, 2015, 02:30:58 AM
http://nypost.com/2015/06/30/arizona-coyotes-to-move-to-las-vegas-under-new-owner/
Did July 1 become another fools day? Or could this be real?
Sin City is getting hockey, two sources close to the situation told The Post.
The NHL is arranging the sale of the Arizona Coyotes to billionaire William Foley who will move the team to Las Vegas giving it its first major professional franchise, one source said.
?Las Vegas has reached 10,000 season ticket deposits,? enough to justify a franchise, the other source said.
Foley said in January that he needed 10,000 ticket deposits to get an NHL team.
Foley will move them for the 2016-17 season, the source said. The Post last year was the first to report Foley was backing a Vegas franchise.
MGM Resorts and arena operator AEG are building a 20,000 seat hockey-ready arena in Las Vegas that is slated to open in spring 2016.
A Coyotes spokesman said, ?The Coyotes are committed to playing in Arizona.? When asked for how long, the spokesman reiterated it was committed to playing in Arizona. ?Period.? Arizona last year ranked 28th in attendance.
Meanwhile, the City Council in Glendale, Ariz., last month voted to terminate its lease agreement that expires in 2028 that has the city paying the team $15 million a year for a share of revenue.
The NHL is also eyeing expansion franchises in the Toronto and Seattle areas for the 2017-18 season, a source said.
The NHL announced it was accepting applications for expansion franchises from July 6 until Aug. 10.
Former Bauer Hockey Chairman Graeme Roustan is the lead person putting together a Toronto-area expansion team bid.
The NHL denied the story.
Foley and Roustan did not return calls.
The league is full-on deny and damage control mode because of this rumour about the Coyotes getting moved.
I won't believe it until it happens but I wouldn't be surprised if it did.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 01, 2015, 02:30:58 AM
http://nypost.com/2015/06/30/arizona-coyotes-to-move-to-las-vegas-under-new-owner/
Did July 1 become another fools day? Or could this be real?
Sin City is getting hockey, two sources close to the situation told The Post.
The NHL is arranging the sale of the Arizona Coyotes to billionaire William Foley who will move the team to Las Vegas giving it its first major professional franchise, one source said.
?Las Vegas has reached 10,000 season ticket deposits,? enough to justify a franchise, the other source said.
Foley said in January that he needed 10,000 ticket deposits to get an NHL team.
Foley will move them for the 2016-17 season, the source said. The Post last year was the first to report Foley was backing a Vegas franchise.
MGM Resorts and arena operator AEG are building a 20,000 seat hockey-ready arena in Las Vegas that is slated to open in spring 2016.
A Coyotes spokesman said, ?The Coyotes are committed to playing in Arizona.? When asked for how long, the spokesman reiterated it was committed to playing in Arizona. ?Period.? Arizona last year ranked 28th in attendance.
Meanwhile, the City Council in Glendale, Ariz., last month voted to terminate its lease agreement that expires in 2028 that has the city paying the team $15 million a year for a share of revenue.
The NHL is also eyeing expansion franchises in the Toronto and Seattle areas for the 2017-18 season, a source said.
The NHL announced it was accepting applications for expansion franchises from July 6 until Aug. 10.
Former Bauer Hockey Chairman Graeme Roustan is the lead person putting together a Toronto-area expansion team bid.
The NHL denied the story.
Foley and Roustan did not return calls.
This sounds so made up lol.
I'd make a long weekend in Vegas to see a Jets game in winter though 8)
Sekera and Letestu sign with the Oilers.
Frolik rumoured to be close to signing with the Flames. :-[
Kessel to the Penguins. Details to be announced but it sounds like the Leafs will eat part of that contract.
Frolik to the Flames. 5 years, $21.5M...
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 01, 2015, 05:10:37 PM
Frolik to the Flames. 5 years, $21.5M...
Thats to much for to long for us.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on July 01, 2015, 05:16:20 PM
Thats to much for to long for us.
Well, yeah. I was just hoping he'd up on an eastern team.
Wanted him to go to the other Conference but .......... the Flames paid a few bucks for a decent player
What is a decent price now a days??
Kessel trade is a super dump for the Penguins........... his potential goal output just jumped significantly for Hockey Pools
The Leafs will be pushing for a high Draft choice position in next years draft, not getting to the playoffs any time soon...... YAY !!
Quote from: Jockitch on July 01, 2015, 05:36:19 PM
Wanted him to go to the other Conference but .......... the Flames paid a few bucks for a decent player
What is a decent price now a days??
The market is inflated this year because the FA pool is pretty shallow. I mean, the Avs paid $13.5M for Beauchemin...
O'Dell signs a one-year deal with his hometown club, the Ottawa Senators.
hope it works out for O'Dell
Mike Green signs with the Red Wings. And apparently Brad Richards, too.
Boston signs a 1 hit wonder ....... Beleskey gets a $3.8M per package for 5 years. Insane for a year well above his average.
Martin St. Louis retires:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=773696 (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=773696)
very good addition to the Caps lineup with TJ Oshie picked up in a trade
Blackhawks trade F Patrick Sharp and prospect D Steven Johns to the Dallas Stars for F Ryan Garbutt and D Trevor Daley.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 11, 2015, 01:10:44 AM
Blackhawks trade F Patrick Sharp and prospect D Steven Johns to the Dallas Stars for F Ryan Garbutt and D Trevor Daley.
god dam our division continues to load up! :-\
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 11, 2015, 04:33:11 PM
god dam our division continues to load up! :-\
Don't worry, Dallas doesn't have a defense and has over 10M tied up in two mediocre goalies.
Stars sign D Oduya:
http://www.tsn.ca/stars-sign-oduya-to-two-year-deal-1.331451 (http://www.tsn.ca/stars-sign-oduya-to-two-year-deal-1.331451)
Quote from: Colton on July 11, 2015, 06:42:22 PM
Don't worry, Dallas doesn't have a defense and has over 10M tied up in two mediocre goalies.
Except Lethonen is not really that mediocre.
Quote from: SaxonMiller11 on July 16, 2015, 04:15:01 PM
Except Lethonen is not really that mediocre.
He's been playing bad enough as of late to lose his status of primary starter.
Lou Lamoriello new GM of the Leafs?
What the fizzy?
Quote from: theaardvark on July 23, 2015, 02:20:14 PM
Lou Lamoriello new GM of the Leafs?
What the fizzy?
Must have gotten a
LOT on $$$$ to get moved from his comfy lazyboy in NJ. Interesting to see how all the brains will work under one roof.
Quote from: ty204 on July 23, 2015, 03:03:36 PM
Must have gotten a LOT on $$$$ to get moved from his comfy lazyboy in NJ. Interesting to see how all the brains will work under one roof.
Lou drafted Shanny... all these guys have a lot of history together, not sure there is any concern about them working together.
Odd that the youngest of them is the one in charge... that will be an interesting dynamic.
Penguins ship Sutter to Vancouver for Bonino, Clendening, and a second rounder in 2016:
http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-acquire-sutter-from-penguins-1.337295 (http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-acquire-sutter-from-penguins-1.337295)
Pens also sign Fehr to 3-year contract:
http://www.tsn.ca/penguins-ink-fehr-to-three-year-deal-1.337297 (http://www.tsn.ca/penguins-ink-fehr-to-three-year-deal-1.337297)
Quote from: ty204 on July 23, 2015, 03:03:36 PM
Must have gotten a LOT on $$$$ to get moved from his comfy lazyboy in NJ. Interesting to see how all the brains will work under one roof.
he lost that chair when Shero came in :P
Not exactly on-ice news but Patrick Kane reported to be under police investigation:
http://www.tsn.ca/report-blackhawks-kane-under-investigation-1.341595 (http://www.tsn.ca/report-blackhawks-kane-under-investigation-1.341595)
Chicago Blackhawks forward Patrick Kane is reportedly under a police investigation near his hometown of Buffalo.
The Buffalo News reports that police in Hamburg, New York are investigating an incident allegedly involving the 26-year-old.
So Vegas and Quebec City have moved onto the 2nd phase of expansion applications. Vegas name were thought out to be .. Which I think are all terrible names and logos.. The Bones, Falmingos, Outlaws, Nordiques (huh?), Rat Pack, Dealers, Sin and Strippers.. Here is the link to the logos and names and explantions.. Thoughts?
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/12551758/nhl-here-our-suggested-las-vegas-expansion-team-nicknames (http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/12551758/nhl-here-our-suggested-las-vegas-expansion-team-nicknames)
Quote from: bomber4life85 on August 09, 2015, 03:58:09 PM
So Vegas and Quebec City have moved onto the 2nd phase of expansion applications. Vegas name were thought out to be .. Which I think are all terrible names and logos.. The Bones, Falmingos, Outlaws, Nordiques (huh?), Rat Pack, Dealers, Sin and Strippers.. Here is the link to the logos and names and explantions.. Thoughts?
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/12551758/nhl-here-our-suggested-las-vegas-expansion-team-nicknames (http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/12551758/nhl-here-our-suggested-las-vegas-expansion-team-nicknames)
I'd take a hockey piece from ESPN with a grain of salt. Although, the Bandits logo and colours look pretty decent. FWIW, those names are just ideas put forth by the writers at ESPN.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 06, 2015, 03:48:53 PM
Not exactly on-ice news but Patrick Kane reported to be under police investigation:
http://www.tsn.ca/report-blackhawks-kane-under-investigation-1.341595 (http://www.tsn.ca/report-blackhawks-kane-under-investigation-1.341595)
Chicago Blackhawks forward Patrick Kane is reportedly under a police investigation near his hometown of Buffalo.
The Buffalo News reports that police in Hamburg, New York are investigating an incident allegedly involving the 26-year-old.
you just knew Patrick Kane would screw up yet again. He sure has wicked athletic ability but is obviously as dumb as a bag of nails.
John Toews must be impressed! >:(
This ain't going to work out good for Patrick Kane I can guarantee that.
He'll get whatever he deserves
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 09, 2015, 07:35:56 PM
you just knew Patrick Kane would screw up yet again. He sure has wicked athletic ability but is obviously as dumb as a bag of nails.
John Toews must be impressed! >:(
This ain't going to work out good for Patrick Kane I can guarantee that.
He'll get whatever he deserves
think the Blackhawks will terminate his contract? :D
Stoll signs one-year deal with the Rangers:
http://www.tsn.ca/rangers-sign-stoll-to-one-year-800k-deal-1.343451 (http://www.tsn.ca/rangers-sign-stoll-to-one-year-800k-deal-1.343451)
Blake Wheeler tweets about potential sponsorship ads on jerseys:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-jersey-ads-would-tarnish-experience-says-jets-wheeler-1.3196074 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-jersey-ads-would-tarnish-experience-says-jets-wheeler-1.3196074)
Blake Wheeler
✔ @BiggieFunke
An NHL uniform is a sacred thing and it's an honor to wear one. Putting corporate sponsors on the front would tarnish that. Don't do it
6:58 PM - 18 Aug 2015
I agree completely. Keep the ads on the boards, the jumbotron, seats, etc. but off the players.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 19, 2015, 05:17:47 PM
Blake Wheeler tweets about potential sponsorship ads on jerseys:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-jersey-ads-would-tarnish-experience-says-jets-wheeler-1.3196074 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-jersey-ads-would-tarnish-experience-says-jets-wheeler-1.3196074)
Blake Wheeler
✔ @BiggieFunke
An NHL uniform is a sacred thing and it's an honor to wear one. Putting corporate sponsors on the front would tarnish that. Don't do it
6:58 PM - 18 Aug 2015
I agree completely. Keep the ads on the boards, the jumbotron, seats, etc. but off the players.
Players are already walking billboards, I don't see what difference putting them on the jersey makes.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 19, 2015, 05:17:47 PM
Blake Wheeler tweets about potential sponsorship ads on jerseys:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-jersey-ads-would-tarnish-experience-says-jets-wheeler-1.3196074 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-jersey-ads-would-tarnish-experience-says-jets-wheeler-1.3196074)
Blake Wheeler
✔ @BiggieFunke
An NHL uniform is a sacred thing and it's an honor to wear one. Putting corporate sponsors on the front would tarnish that. Don't do it
6:58 PM - 18 Aug 2015
I agree completely. Keep the ads on the boards, the jumbotron, seats, etc. but off the players.
Can you see plastering car company logos on stickers on the fronts of their helmets? Great look.
On another front,
Evander Kane is fraught with first world problems..
Evander Kane @evanderkane_9 1
Love my Bentley but nothing beats my Ferrari. The only problem is my hockey bag takes up the passenger seat. https://instagram.com/p/6jc09RzNw2/(https://instagram.com/p/6jc09RzNw2/)
Quote from: theaardvark on August 19, 2015, 05:23:49 PM
Can you see plastering car company logos on stickers on the fronts of their helmets? Great look.
There are already logos on the fronts of every players helmet.
Quote from: Colton on August 19, 2015, 06:59:15 PM
There are already logos on the fronts of every players helmet.
Representing the brand of the helmet and the team they represent.
Seeing a helmet with a Ford logo and a hockey jersey with McDonalds on it would look stupid, IMO. The European/IIHF jerseys look like garbage with all those ads on them.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 19, 2015, 08:48:27 PM
Representing the brand of the helmet and the team they represent.
Seeing a helmet with a Ford logo and a hockey jersey with McDonalds on it would look stupid, IMO. The European/IIHF jerseys look like garbage with all those ads on them.
The players are still plastered with advertisements on every other piece of equipment they're paid to use, I'm not sure what makes Ford or McDonalds any worse than Nike/Reebok/Adidas/CCM/etc... Some could argue the latter are far worse than the former.
We're also posting on the board of a team who has advertisements on their jerseys. They are barely noticeable. I bet if you pulled aside random fans after a Bomber game and asked them what companies were featured on each teams jersey they wouldn't be able to even tell you.
Quote from: Colton on August 19, 2015, 09:00:20 PM
The players are still plastered with advertisements on every other piece of equipment they're paid to use, I'm not sure what makes Ford or McDonalds any worse than Nike/Reebok/Adidas/CCM/etc... Some could argue the latter are far worse than the former.
We're also posting on the board of a team who has advertisements on their jerseys. They are barely noticeable. I bet if you pulled aside random fans after a Bomber game and asked them what companies were featured on each teams jersey they wouldn't be able to even tell you.
How are the latter worse than the former? A player uses Reebok skates, Warrior gloves, and a CCM helmet. You or I could go to the store and buy the same gear for our own use and both versions have ads on them representing the manufacturer of that specific item. Similarly, a player's jersey has the Reebok insignia on it just like the jersey you or I could buy. How is that in any way similar to Ford or McDonald's slapping ad bars on that jersey?
And for the record, I despise the ads on CFL jerseys. Thankfully, they're small and somewhat easy to overlook, similar to what we saw on the Moose jerseys before the Jets returned. By contrast, what the NHL has purportedly put forward is a design similar to what we see in Europe, the KHL, and IIHF tournaments like the Spengler Cup. Most of those jerseys are hideous and the ads, IMO, take away from the appeal of the jersey. A similar approach to NHL jerseys would result in a similar reaction, at least from me.
I understand sponsorship and all that crap to make more money. But it doesn't appeal to me. Take NFL regular season jerseys, for example. Besides the Nike swoosh, numbers and a namebar, that's it. I'll take that any day. Just my two cents, though.
I'm perfectly fine with small ads on NHL jerseys similar to CFL jerseys. It's when they're plastered all over like KHL or European soccer. I think it's hideous.
I little Nike check mark is considerably different than one going over the entire sleeve.
D Christian Ehrhoff signs with the Kings:
http://www.tsn.ca/kings-sign-d-ehrhoff-to-one-year-1-5m-deal-1.349794 (http://www.tsn.ca/kings-sign-d-ehrhoff-to-one-year-1-5m-deal-1.349794)
As first reported by TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie, The Los Angeles Kings have signed veteran defenceman Christian Ehrhoff to a one-year deal. The deal is worth $1.5 million.
31 yr old C of Calgary Giordino signs 6 yr, 6.75 AAV extension that takes him to age 39.
Looks like that will be the min number for Buff, and maybe a little more $ or term for Ladd...
Quote from: theaardvark on August 25, 2015, 09:04:58 PM
31 yr old C of Calgary Giordino signs 6 yr, 6.75 AAV extension that takes him to age 39.
Looks like that will be the min number for Buff, and maybe a little more $ or term for Ladd...
Gio is a far superior defenseman than Byfuglien. That extension should set the max, although that would be an overpayment if he signed a similar deal.
Quote from: theaardvark on August 25, 2015, 09:04:58 PM
31 yr old C of Calgary Giordino signs 6 yr, 6.75 AAV extension that takes him to age 39.
Looks like that will be the min number for Buff, and maybe a little more $ or term for Ladd...
Math.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 25, 2015, 09:28:24 PM
Math.
Extension of current contract that still has time left on it...
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 25, 2015, 09:28:24 PM
Math.
The signing was an extension to his current contract. He'll be 33 when this contract begins.
Quote from: theaardvark on August 25, 2015, 09:43:53 PM
Extension of current contract that still has time left on it...
Ah okay. Makes sense thank you.
RCMP charge former LA King with possession of a controlled substance:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/mike-richards-nhl-free-agent-charged-for-drug-possession-when-crossing-border-1.3205598 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/mike-richards-nhl-free-agent-charged-for-drug-possession-when-crossing-border-1.3205598)
RCMP in Manitoba confirmed the controlled substance was drugs, but wouldn't give the type.
RCMP in Emerson have been investigating Richards, 30, since June 17, when they were notified that a controlled substance had been intercepted by the Canada Border Services Agency at the Manitoba town's port of entry.
2 Kings players charged within the last few months for drugs.
Drugs are bad, mmkay?
Quote from: BomberPride on August 27, 2015, 05:38:14 PM
2 Kings players charged within the last few months for drugs.
Drugs are bad, mmkay?
figures
Penguins ownership asking for $750M USD for franchise:
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/sources-penguins-owners-looking-for-record-750m-for-team-1.354678 (http://www.tsn.ca/talent/sources-penguins-owners-looking-for-record-750m-for-team-1.354678)
The owners of the Pittsburgh Penguins are asking $750 million (U.S.) for the team, but face long odds of finding a buyer who?s willing to pay that much because of the flagging North American economy and uncertainty over the future of the Canadian dollar, sports investment bankers say.
Forbes magazine reported last year that the Penguins were the 10th-most valuable NHL team, worth an estimated $565 million.
Steep and unrealistic asking price, IMO.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 02, 2015, 08:47:23 PM
Penguins ownership asking for $750M USD for franchise:
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/sources-penguins-owners-looking-for-record-750m-for-team-1.354678 (http://www.tsn.ca/talent/sources-penguins-owners-looking-for-record-750m-for-team-1.354678)
The owners of the Pittsburgh Penguins are asking $750 million (U.S.) for the team, but face long odds of finding a buyer who?s willing to pay that much because of the flagging North American economy and uncertainty over the future of the Canadian dollar, sports investment bankers say.
Forbes magazine reported last year that the Penguins were the 10th-most valuable NHL team, worth an estimated $565 million.
Steep and unrealistic asking price, IMO.
Wow. Didn't Chipman buy the thrashers for under 200 Million? I get the Thrashers aren't the Penguins but still...that's a massive difference.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 03, 2015, 12:04:18 AM
Wow. Didn't Chipman buy the thrashers for under 200 Million? I get the Thrashers aren't the Penguins but still...that's a massive difference.
TNSE paid $170M for the Thrashers franchise plus a $60M relocation fee to the NHL. That still comes in at less than 1/3 what Penguins ownership is asking.
Talk about arrogant.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 03, 2015, 03:21:33 AM
TNSE paid $170M for the Thrashers franchise plus a $60M relocation fee to the NHL. That still comes in at less than 1/3 what Penguins ownership is asking.
Talk about arrogant.
Plus they needed to show 11K season ticket holders cash. For 3 Years i think.
D Cody Franson signs with the Sabres:
http://www.tsn.ca/sabres-sign-franson-to-two-year-6-65m-deal-1.358197 (http://www.tsn.ca/sabres-sign-franson-to-two-year-6-65m-deal-1.358197)
Free-agent defenceman Cody Franson signed a two-year contract worth $6.65 million with the Buffalo Sabres on Thursday.
Franson split last season between the Toronto Maple Leafs and Nashville Predators, scoring seven goals and adding 29 assists in 78 games. He also appeared in five playoff games with the Predators and tallied two assists.
The 28-year-old was selected in the third round, 79th overall by the Predators in the 2005 NHL Entry Draft and spent parts of two seasons with them before being dealt to the Maple Leafs.
After parts of four seasons with the Leafs he was shipped back to Nashville where he appeared in 23 more games before becoming an unrestricted free-agent.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 10, 2015, 05:28:37 PM
D Cody Franson signs with the Sabres:
http://www.tsn.ca/sabres-sign-franson-to-two-year-6-65m-deal-1.358197 (http://www.tsn.ca/sabres-sign-franson-to-two-year-6-65m-deal-1.358197)
Free-agent defenceman Cody Franson signed a two-year contract worth $6.65 million with the Buffalo Sabres on Thursday.
Franson split last season between the Toronto Maple Leafs and Nashville Predators, scoring seven goals and adding 29 assists in 78 games. He also appeared in five playoff games with the Predators and tallied two assists.
The 28-year-old was selected in the third round, 79th overall by the Predators in the 2005 NHL Entry Draft and spent parts of two seasons with them before being dealt to the Maple Leafs.
After parts of four seasons with the Leafs he was shipped back to Nashville where he appeared in 23 more games before becoming an unrestricted free-agent.
Time to find a new agent.
Not hockey related but still a great story:
http://www.tsn.ca/subban-donating-10m-to-montreal-hospital-1.361204 (http://www.tsn.ca/subban-donating-10m-to-montreal-hospital-1.361204)
Montreal Canadiens defenceman P.K. Subban and his foundation have pledged at least $10 million to the Montreal Children's Hospital. The hospital is calling the money the largest philanthropic commitment ever made by a professional athlete in Canada.
The agreement will see Subban, 26, become a spokesperson for certain fundraising campaigns and flagship events organized by the Montreal Children's Hospital Foundation.
In recognition of the donation, the Children's officially inaugurated Wednesday the "P.K. Subban Atrium," a 486-square-metre, three-storey public space located at the heart of the hospital's new facilities.
"It is really an amazing feeling to be here," Subban said. "I am proud to walk in the footsteps of my idol Jean Beliveau by giving back to the community and feel privileged to be able to help transform the lives of sick children and their families."
That is awesome. :)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 16, 2015, 07:50:43 PM
Not hockey related but still a great story:
http://www.tsn.ca/subban-donating-10m-to-montreal-hospital-1.361204 (http://www.tsn.ca/subban-donating-10m-to-montreal-hospital-1.361204)
Montreal Canadiens defenceman P.K. Subban and his foundation have pledged at least $10 million to the Montreal Children's Hospital. The hospital is calling the money the largest philanthropic commitment ever made by a professional athlete in Canada.
The agreement will see Subban, 26, become a spokesperson for certain fundraising campaigns and flagship events organized by the Montreal Children's Hospital Foundation.
In recognition of the donation, the Children's officially inaugurated Wednesday the "P.K. Subban Atrium," a 486-square-metre, three-storey public space located at the heart of the hospital's new facilities.
"It is really an amazing feeling to be here," Subban said. "I am proud to walk in the footsteps of my idol Jean Beliveau by giving back to the community and feel privileged to be able to help transform the lives of sick children and their families."
That is awesome. :)
PK is an absolute beauty. Haven't seen or heard a single thing about him off the ice to convey he is anything but an all around amazing human.
Quote from: Colton on September 16, 2015, 08:01:33 PM
PK is an absolute beauty. Haven't seen or heard a single thing about him off the ice to convey he is anything but an all around amazing human.
Agreed. People can criticize how he plays the game but nobody can deny the quality of human being he is.
Devils sign Tlusty at a bargain and offer Stempniak a PTO
Quote from: AngryGreg on September 16, 2015, 11:53:08 PM
Devils sign Tlusty at a bargain and offer Stempniak a PTO
Shoulda been the other way around :-\
Leafs trade five to acquire F Michael Grabner from the Islanders:
http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-acquire-f-grabner-from-isles-for-five-players-1.362038 (http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-acquire-f-grabner-from-isles-for-five-players-1.362038)
...the Toronto Maple Leafs got faster and more flexible by trading five players to the New York Islanders for winger Michael Grabner.
The Leafs sent minor-league forwards Taylor Beck and Carter Verhaeghe, defencemen Matt Finn and Tom Nilsson and goaltender Christopher Gibson to the Islanders.
Quote from: Nic16 on September 17, 2015, 02:56:15 AM
Shoulda been the other way around :-\
Maybe Stempnik didn't want an $800k contract, hoping he can earn a bigger payday with the PTO...
I can't believe we didn't try to keep Stepniak. I thought he was good addition.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 17, 2015, 06:27:39 PM
Maybe Stempnik didn't want an $800k contract, hoping he can earn a bigger payday with the PTO...
So, instead of guaranteeing himself a job & $800k, Stempniak is going to gamble and "maybe" earn himself an extra $200k. :o ::)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 17, 2015, 05:24:34 PM
Leafs trade five to acquire F Michael Grabner from the Islanders:
http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-acquire-f-grabner-from-isles-for-five-players-1.362038 (http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-acquire-f-grabner-from-isles-for-five-players-1.362038)
...the Toronto Maple Leafs got faster and more flexible by trading five players to the New York Islanders for winger Michael Grabner.
The Leafs sent minor-league forwards Taylor Beck and Carter Verhaeghe, defencemen Matt Finn and Tom Nilsson and goaltender Christopher Gibson to the Islanders.
Lou is already trading away the Leafs future :P
Quote from: Nic16 on September 19, 2015, 03:50:53 PM
So, instead of guaranteeing himself a job & $800k, Stempniak is going to gamble and "maybe" earn himself an extra $200k. :o ::)
well..all of that is speculation..who said they offered him a contract yet?
Quote from: AngryGreg on September 20, 2015, 02:59:45 PM
well..all of that is speculation..who said they offered him a contract yet?
Nobody is saying Stemp got offered a contract. I suggest reading the trail of posts over that lead to my response.
Quote from: Nic16 on September 20, 2015, 03:20:12 PM
Nobody is saying Stemp got offered a contract. I suggest reading the trail of posts over that lead to my response.
i did read them..there right there :)
pre season starts in two hours 8)
Quote from: AngryGreg on September 20, 2015, 09:19:18 PM
pre season starts in two hours 8)
Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
This is some seriously crazy stuff in the last 48 hours or so:
http://www.tsn.ca/district-attorney-in-kane-case-to-address-tampering-allegations-1.366074 (http://www.tsn.ca/district-attorney-in-kane-case-to-address-tampering-allegations-1.366074)
The lawyer for the accuser in the alleged sexual assault investigation, Thomas Eoannou, announced on Thursday night that he is withdrawing as his client's representative on the case. Eoannou said that he's no longer comfortable representing the woman because of how her mother reported finding an evidence bag that once held the woman's rape kit.
That news comes on the heels of a Wednesday news conference where Eoannou said that evidence in the case has been tampered with, setting off a head-spinning day of developments and denials.
Eoannou said the bag once containing evidence from the rape kit performed on his client at Erie County Medical Center in early August was anonymously delivered to the doorstep of his client's mother.
And the crazy continues:
http://www.tsn.ca/prosecutor-kane-accuser-s-mom-lied-about-finding-evidence-bag-1.366435 (http://www.tsn.ca/prosecutor-kane-accuser-s-mom-lied-about-finding-evidence-bag-1.366435)
BUFFALO, N.Y. - The prosecutor overseeing the sexual assault investigation of Chicago Blackhawks star Patrick Kane says the accuser's mother lied about finding an evidence bag in her doorway.
Erie County District Attorney Frank Sedita said during a news conference Friday he's not sure yet how the two-day sideshow of how evidence was handled affects the main case. Sedita said all the evidence, including the rape kit used to examine the accuser, was handled properly and is still in custody of authorities.
Sedita said the mother was given the bag at a hospital when her daughter was examined, but it never contained a rape kit. The examining nurse gave the mother the bag after learning the accuser changed her top before going to the hospital, Sedita said. The mother was to put the top in the bag and turn it into authorities, but never did, Sedita said.
On Friday, when asked when a grand jury might hear the case, Sedita responded: "The question in my mind is not when this case will go to a grand jury, it's if it will go to a grand jury."
Kane's attorney, Paul Cambria, has said that none of Kane's DNA was found on the woman "from the waist down."
What a gong show.
Eberle out 4-6 weeks due to a whoulder injury suffered last night in their pre-season game vs. Arizona.
http://www.tsn.ca/oilers-f-eberle-out-4-6-weeks-1.369308
If you listen closely, you can hear Jersey swearing...
Sharks forward Torres could be facing yet another suspension:
http://www.tsn.ca/torres-ejected-for-hit-to-the-head-1.371405 (http://www.tsn.ca/torres-ejected-for-hit-to-the-head-1.371405)
San Jose Sharks forward Raffi Torres could be facing another suspension by the National Hockey League after receiving a match penalty for an illegal hit to the head of Anaheim Ducks forward Jakob Silfverberg.
Torres has been suspended four times in his NHL career, the most recent coming during the 2012-13 Stanley Cup playoffs. Torres was suspended for the remainder of the second round against the Los Angeles Kings for an illegal check to the head of Jarret Stoll.
Torres was handed a 25-game suspension in 2012 while playing for the Arizona Coyotes after landing a late hit on the Blackhawks' Marian Hossa. The 25 game suspension is the third-longest handed down by the league.
This guy never learns. Not sure how he still has a job in the NHL.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 04, 2015, 05:32:11 PM
Sharks forward Torres could be facing yet another suspension:
http://www.tsn.ca/torres-ejected-for-hit-to-the-head-1.371405 (http://www.tsn.ca/torres-ejected-for-hit-to-the-head-1.371405)
San Jose Sharks forward Raffi Torres could be facing another suspension by the National Hockey League after receiving a match penalty for an illegal hit to the head of Anaheim Ducks forward Jakob Silfverberg.
Torres has been suspended four times in his NHL career, the most recent coming during the 2012-13 Stanley Cup playoffs. Torres was suspended for the remainder of the second round against the Los Angeles Kings for an illegal check to the head of Jarret Stoll.
Torres was handed a 25-game suspension in 2012 while playing for the Arizona Coyotes after landing a late hit on the Blackhawks' Marian Hossa. The 25 game suspension is the third-longest handed down by the league.
This guy never learns. Not sure how he still has a job in the NHL.
We all waited two years for him to finally make a comeback and he head hunts a dude in the preseason.
It's a shame too, because he made a positive impact on the team when he actually stuck to playing hockey.
Quote from: Colton on October 04, 2015, 05:40:55 PM
We all waited two years for him to finally make a comeback and he head hunts a dude in the preseason.
It's a shame too, because he made a positive impact on the team when he actually stuck to playing hockey.
It is a shame because he's a pretty decent hockey player when he
actually plays hockey.
Torres suspended 41 games:
https://twitter.com/SportsCentre/status/651132770694000641 (https://twitter.com/SportsCentre/status/651132770694000641)
SportsCentre
@SportsCentre
JUST IN: Sharks F Raffi Torres suspended 41 games for hit to the head of Ducks F Jakob Silfverberg. #TSNHockey
Wow.
W O W .......... so many other players have thrown that similar check in previous years & got away with it.
Unbelieveable crackdown on Torres (good stuff) & others may need to check their temperament & quickly change some instincts.
Preseason, against a premium player, and he has history.
Good call, put everyone on notice.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 05, 2015, 08:37:11 PM
Torres suspended 41 games:
https://twitter.com/SportsCentre/status/651132770694000641 (https://twitter.com/SportsCentre/status/651132770694000641)
SportsCentre
@SportsCentre
JUST IN: Sharks F Raffi Torres suspended 41 games for hit to the head of Ducks F Jakob Silfverberg. #TSNHockey
Wow.
Love it.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
In much more positive news that I hope doesn't get overshadowed, Joe Pavelski was named captain of the Sharks. Wish I could find the full video, but this is a 1st intermission speech down 2-0 to the Coyotes, Joe comes out and scored a hat trick in the final two periods of a 4-2 victory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD1okbl0-RE
Edit: Full version of that scene can be seen here from 50:53 onwards: https://vid.me/Tqvn
Torres must have the brain the size of a pea.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 05, 2015, 11:05:10 PM
Torres must have the brain the size of a pea.
Shouldn't be allowed back in the league. Or any league at that.
Quote from: Colton on October 05, 2015, 09:56:43 PM
Love it.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
In much more positive news that I hope doesn't get overshadowed, Joe Pavelski was named captain of the Sharks. Wish I could find the full video, but this is a 1st intermission speech down 2-0 to the Coyotes, Joe comes out and scored a hat trick in the final two periods of a 4-2 victory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD1okbl0-RE
Edit: Full version of that scene can be seen here from 50:53 onwards: https://vid.me/Tqvn
Just nasty, nasty head-hunting by Torres. And to see people on social media defend the act or say it wasn't a dirty hit just boggles the mind. This is the kind of stuff the NHL is trying to get rid of in order to make the game safer.
Anyways, good for Pavelski. He's a good player and a leader. He'll wear the C well.
For fans of the Oil...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQtts1OUkAAwaoF.jpg:large)
Dustin Brown with another incredibly dirty play, as is tradition.
Link (https://twitter.com/myregularface/status/651964515324665860?s=09)
Cooch leveling Lucic coming out of the box, luring Lucic into a match penalty, and then giving him that bloody massive grin just made my night.
McJesus nets his first NHL goal last night. Good for him.
It's becoming extremely hard not to be more than just cautiously optimistic about the DeBoer Sharks + Jones.
Senior NHL lawyer advised league to 'leave dementia issues up to the NFL'
http://www.tsn.ca/senior-nhl-lawyer-advised-league-to-leave-dementia-issues-up-to-the-nfl-1.376753 (http://www.tsn.ca/senior-nhl-lawyer-advised-league-to-leave-dementia-issues-up-to-the-nfl-1.376753)
In an email to Bettman and NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly on Nov. 30, 2009, NHL deputy general counsel Julie Grand outlined four suggestions on "next possible steps" for the league's NHL-NHLPA Concussion Working Group (CWG).
Grand wrote she was least interested in studying retired players because they are "removed from the current issues we face? I'd rather focus on the here and now and leave the dementia issues up to the NFL!"
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 14, 2015, 07:53:50 PM
Senior NHL lawyer advised league to 'leave dementia issues up to the NFL'
http://www.tsn.ca/senior-nhl-lawyer-advised-league-to-leave-dementia-issues-up-to-the-nfl-1.376753 (http://www.tsn.ca/senior-nhl-lawyer-advised-league-to-leave-dementia-issues-up-to-the-nfl-1.376753)
In an email to Bettman and NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly on Nov. 30, 2009, NHL deputy general counsel Julie Grand outlined four suggestions on "next possible steps" for the league's NHL-NHLPA Concussion Working Group (CWG).
Grand wrote she was least interested in studying retired players because they are "removed from the current issues we face? I'd rather focus on the here and now and leave the dementia issues up to the NFL!"
Not surprising whatsoever, especially from an email back in 2009.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 07, 2015, 02:08:16 PM
For fans of the Oil...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQtts1OUkAAwaoF.jpg:large)
what a surprise oilers 0-3 what a shocker!!
Anybody see that goal Talbot let in? A shot from the corner goal line and he banked it in his own net, lol.
Earth to McDavid Earth to McDavid, anybody home Mcfly errr McDavid
I mean does the guy have a grain of emotion within him. Seems even more robot like than Sid back in the day.
I'd much rather have Eichel at this point.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 15, 2015, 05:05:03 PM
what a surprise oilers 0-3 what a shocker!!
Anybody see that goal Talbot let in? A shot from the corner goal line and he banked it in his own net, lol.
Earth to McDavid Earth to McDavid, anybody home Mcfly errr McDavid
I mean does the guy have a grain of emotion within him. Seems even more robot like than Sid back in the day.
I'd much rather have Eichel at this point.
That wasn't Talbot. Neilson?
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on October 15, 2015, 07:50:27 PM
That wasn't Talbot. Neilson?
was it? Who cares. oil sucks!
see tomorrow at the pony.
Just saw on FB Logan Couture broke his fibula at practice yesterday and will be out 4-6 weeks.
TSN confirms:
http://www.tsn.ca/sharks-couture-out-4-6-weeks-1.377772 (http://www.tsn.ca/sharks-couture-out-4-6-weeks-1.377772)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 16, 2015, 02:54:42 PM
Just saw on FB Logan Couture broke his fibula at practice yesterday and will be out 4-6 weeks.
TSN confirms:
http://www.tsn.ca/sharks-couture-out-4-6-weeks-1.377772 (http://www.tsn.ca/sharks-couture-out-4-6-weeks-1.377772)
Really sucks. Wouldn't mind seeing Goldobin get a chance but I doubt it happens right now.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 16, 2015, 02:54:42 PM
Just saw on FB Logan Couture broke his fibula at practice yesterday and will be out 4-6 weeks.
TSN confirms:
http://www.tsn.ca/sharks-couture-out-4-6-weeks-1.377772 (http://www.tsn.ca/sharks-couture-out-4-6-weeks-1.377772)
This hurts my fantasy team, which is the real tragedy here.
Quote from: sweep the leg on October 16, 2015, 03:59:04 PM
This hurts my fantasy team, which is the real tragedy here.
:'( lol
now that the preseason is over...fans of both the Oilers and the Sabres have come back to reality to realize there teams still suck ...the Oilers went 6-0 when there kids played against everyone elses kids, and finally just got there first win...and Kane is 5 games deep and no goals...shocked!
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 18, 2015, 10:06:08 PM
now that the preseason is over...fans of both the Oilers and the Sabres have come back to reality to realize there teams still suck ...the Oilers went 6-0 when there kids played against everyone elses kids, and finally just got there first win...and Kane is 5 games deep and no goals...shocked!
Oilers would be smart to make some move for some D imo.
They have enough talent that they could trade someone and make there team better i think.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on October 18, 2015, 11:10:35 PM
Oilers would be smart to make some move for some D imo.
They have enough talent that they could trade someone and make there team better i think.
they have stupid amounts of talent..Hall, Eberle, Nugent Hopkins, Yakapov, McDavid...its crazy when you actually see all these names together...I would trade some young Dmen for Yakapov...i have a feeling thats the only guy they would be willing to part with right now
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 18, 2015, 11:17:22 PM
they have stupid amounts of talent..Hall, Eberle, Nugent Hopkins, Yakapov, McDavid...its crazy when you actually see all these names together...I would trade some young Dmen for Yakapov...i have a feeling thats the only guy they would be willing to part with right now
If i were us i wouldnt trade for Yak... He dont fit here in anyway.
If anyone i might want Nugent Hopkins. Hall would fit here well but they would want to much
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on October 18, 2015, 11:30:16 PM
If i were us i wouldnt trade for Yak... He dont fit here in anyway.
If anyone i might want Nugent Hopkins. Hall would fit here well but they would want to much
i wouldnt really mess much with the Jets at this point..chemistry seems good and the guys are buying in to the system and it works well for them...the Devils need some speed and scoring up front...which is quite obvious lol
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 18, 2015, 11:32:20 PM
i wouldnt really mess much with the Jets at this point..chemistry seems good and the guys are buying in to the system and it works well for them...the Devils need some speed and scoring up front...which is quite obvious lol
Agree about the Jets
I havent watched the Devils yet... Follow them on my phone tho
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on October 18, 2015, 11:40:41 PM
Agree about the Jets
I havent watched the Devils yet... Follow them on my phone tho
still need skill up front lol...that being said this is year one of the rebuild :'(
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 18, 2015, 11:55:20 PM
still need skill up front lol...that being said this is year one of the rebuild :'(
4 more ta go
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on October 18, 2015, 11:58:24 PM
4 more ta go
im hoping for one more year next season if they can land a top 5 pick...then by 2017/2018 season be back in the mix ...defense and goalies are pretty solid, just need a bit more skill up front
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 18, 2015, 10:06:08 PM
now that the preseason is over...fans of both the Oilers and the Sabres have come back to reality to realize there teams still suck ...the Oilers went 6-0 when there kids played against everyone elses kids, and finally just got there first win...and Kane is 5 games deep and no goals...shocked!
Wow,you guys would make this statement lol esp. After 4 games. you might want to understand oilers have goaltending this year, a experienced coach, who said to give them ten games. We are flying and have 3rd best PK so far! Over 91%
3 straight wins, CYA!
Gosh that McJesus is a FLOP. Catch him on highlight reels ;)
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 15, 2015, 10:28:31 PM
was it? Who cares. oil sucks!
see tomorrow at the pony.
Bro,oops ? A lil fast on first 4 games :p
Are u watching our goaltending cuz it's pretty **** ******* greatness
Let's Go Oilers!!!
Quote from: Jersey on October 22, 2015, 03:13:29 PM
Wow,you guys would make this statement lol esp. After 4 games. you might want to understand oilers have goaltending this year, a experienced coach, who said to give them ten games. We are flying and have 3rd best PK so far! Over 91%
3 straight wins, CYA!
Gosh that McJesus is a FLOP. Catch him on highlight reels ;)
You have a terrible coach. Have fun being frustrated with that train wreck until someone figures out McLellan blows.
And Cam Talbot is having goaltending? Are you not a little gun shy yet after Scribbles?
lol Jesse, coming on here after your first three win streak since, like, Gretzky is just as bad as people writing off the Oilers after losing their first four!
Quote from: Jersey on October 22, 2015, 03:13:29 PM
Wow,you guys would make this statement lol esp. After 4 games. you might want to understand oilers have goaltending this year, a experienced coach, who said to give them ten games. We are flying and have 3rd best PK so far! Over 91%
3 straight wins, CYA!
Gosh that McJesus is a FLOP. Catch him on highlight reels ;)
I applaud your steadfastness... from this post, you'd think the team is leading the league, not still sub .500 3-4... but they are also tied for 3rd in a category... losses. ;)
In case you missed this stat, McDavid is -2... doesn't matter how many points you put up if the other team scores more when you are on the ice... but then again, only 4 Oil have a positive +/-
But good on ya. 3 wins in a row after 4 losses in a row... they have a potential 78 win season going...
Quote from: Colton on October 22, 2015, 03:37:31 PM
You have a terrible coach. Have fun being frustrated with that train wreck until someone figures out McLellan blows.
And Cam Talbot is having goaltending? Are you not a little gun shy yet after Scribbles?
huh? What the heck does Scrivens even have to do with anything, lol? Because he had ONE good game vs the sharks? Your a sharks fan of coarse you wanna tell me McL sucks. No coach has won it in SJ, so I wont knock him there. But he has won gold, divisions, most wins as a head coach since he became a HC. He def has a lot to offer the young Oilers. Sharks are ageing, not worried about that team. Way more worried baout Jets then Sharks, truth be told. Yes Talbot is good!
Blue or Die, I been on here since start of pre season and ppl were jabbing the Oilers. I didnt just "come on here after 3 game win streak" I've handled plenty of LOSING trust me ;)
Aard. Omg have you played top level once or anytime in your life? Plus minus is a LINE stat, you dont look at that stat and squarely look at the player. But since you wanna go that rope, whats McDavid's plus minus in last 4 games? Wow and thx for clearing up 3-4 for the Oilers, gosh i didnt know. Listen I know this is Jets country, so why would anyone ever want to say anything good about the Oilers? Its not worth getting into a battle. Oilers are gonna lose, gonna win, (aard we are not like you that think bombers are gonna win cup every single year and somehow win every game. We understand its steps...) one thing that is for certain, we are getting and going to be better. And aard before you look even stupider, check out McDavid's scoring against and for when on the ice. I love how you got a -2 and keep that as your safe. Is that all you could come up with?
I have a lot of respect for the Jets team, I envy how big and strong they are. I want a team like that again. Our GM PC said he wants to get heavier but it will take time to weed in and out players to get there. He wants the core together and add PF on each line.
Quote from: Jersey on October 22, 2015, 09:58:21 PM
huh? What the heck does Scrivens even have to do with anything, lol? Because he had ONE good game vs the sharks? Your a sharks fan of coarse you wanna tell me McL sucks. No coach has won it in SJ, so I wont knock him there. But he has won gold, divisions, most wins as a head coach since he became a HC. He def has a lot to offer the young Oilers. Sharks are ageing, not worried about that team. Way more worried baout Jets then Sharks, truth be told. Yes Talbot is good!
Blue or Die, I been on here since start of pre season and ppl were jabbing the Oilers. I didnt just "come on here after 3 game win streak" I've handled plenty of LOSING trust me ;)
Aard. Omg have you played top level once or anytime in your life? Plus minus is a LINE stat, you dont look at that stat and squarely look at the player. But since you wanna go that rope, whats McDavid's plus minus in last 4 games? Wow and thx for clearing up 3-4 for the Oilers, gosh i didnt know. Listen I know this is Jets country, so why would anyone ever want to say anything good about the Oilers? Its not worth getting into a battle. Oilers are gonna lose, gonna win, (aard we are not like you that think bombers are gonna win cup every single year and somehow win every game. We understand its steps...) one thing that is for certain, we are getting and going to be better. And aard before you look even stupider, check out McDavid's scoring against and for when on the ice. I love how you got a -2 and keep that as your safe. Is that all you could come up with?
I have a lot of respect for the Jets team, I envy how big and strong they are. I want a team like that again. Our GM PC said he wants to get heavier but it will take time to weed in and out players to get there. He wants the core together and add PF on each line.
I was just pointing out, there are always stats that can prove wither side of anything. But again, I applaud your stalwartness toa tem that has struggled. I feel your pain ;)
Quote from: Jersey on October 22, 2015, 09:58:21 PM
huh? What the heck does Scrivens even have to do with anything, lol? Because he had ONE good game vs the sharks? Your a sharks fan of coarse you wanna tell me McL sucks. No coach has won it in SJ, so I wont knock him there. But he has won gold, divisions, most wins as a head coach since he became a HC. He def has a lot to offer the young Oilers. Sharks are ageing, not worried about that team. Way more worried baout Jets then Sharks, truth be told. Yes Talbot is good!
Blue or Die, I been on here since start of pre season and ppl were jabbing the Oilers. I didnt just "come on here after 3 game win streak" I've handled plenty of LOSING trust me ;)
Aard. Omg have you played top level once or anytime in your life? Plus minus is a LINE stat, you dont look at that stat and squarely look at the player. But since you wanna go that rope, whats McDavid's plus minus in last 4 games? Wow and thx for clearing up 3-4 for the Oilers, gosh i didnt know. Listen I know this is Jets country, so why would anyone ever want to say anything good about the Oilers? Its not worth getting into a battle. Oilers are gonna lose, gonna win, (aard we are not like you that think bombers are gonna win cup every single year and somehow win every game. We understand its steps...) one thing that is for certain, we are getting and going to be better. And aard before you look even stupider, check out McDavid's scoring against and for when on the ice. I love how you got a -2 and keep that as your safe. Is that all you could come up with?
I have a lot of respect for the Jets team, I envy how big and strong they are. I want a team like that again. Our GM PC said he wants to get heavier but it will take time to weed in and out players to get there. He wants the core together and add PF on each line.
I'm just saying you seem quite high on Talbot after not really doing anything, and I thought you might have learned your lesson after I tried to warn you about Scrivens ;)
McLellan is a terrible coach, and is known for how terrible he is with young players. That and his absolute inability and refusal to make any sort of adjustment to his game plans, especially in the playoffs, are the staple of TMac hockey. I hope you enjoy watching complete duds with no skating or shooting ability to be found, that only exist in the league because they can fight, because Todd sure does.
Yea but we got some players though. He has generational player.
How can u say he can't coach players he won the worlds which had been tough to do lately for Canada and he coached ebs and hall on that team amongst other Young young kids.
I'd say I'm thrilled to have him. He can't be that bad his resume is pretty good. I'd look at marleau and Thornton come playoff time, they dont do much.
Talbot had strong case last year in nyr, he kept them in it when Lundquist went down. Talbot has been good all season so far, what's not to like ?
Time will tell but as long as the oilers stay .500 in first ten it's perfect, because we're out with eberle still.
Quote from: Jersey on October 23, 2015, 01:36:11 AM
Yea but we got some players though. He has generational player.
How can u say he can't coach players he won the worlds which had been tough to do lately for Canada and he coached ebs and hall on that team amongst other Young young kids.
I'd say I'm thrilled to have him. He can't be that bad his resume is pretty good. I'd look at marleau and Thornton come playoff time, they dont do much.
Talbot had strong case last year in nyr, he kept them in it when Lundquist went down. Talbot has been good all season so far, what's not to like ?
Time will tell but as long as the oilers stay .500 in first ten it's perfect, because we're out with eberle still.
One has 100 points in the playoffs, the other is tied for 9th all time in GWG in the playoffs. They do absolutely nothing ::)
How can I say that? Because I've watched almost every game he has coached for seven years. He made the playoffs 6 times and was eliminated in 4 straight games in 3 of those, one of which was a reverse sweep. Fun fact, they were almost (and probably should have been) reverse swept three years earlier too! Don't even get me started on all of the cancerous captaincy BS he pulled.
What do you know about TMac other than the positive news you read about him to make yourself feel good about the hiring?
I could tell you exactly what there isn't to like about Talbot, but you won't listen to any of it just like you didn't listen to the exact reasoning I gave to you about Scrivens.
http://puckernews.com/2015/10/19/report-evander-kane-misses-practice-with-severe-case-of-other-****-to-do/
Report: Evander Kane Misses Practice With Severe Case of ?Other **** To Do?
BUFFALO ? Multiple reporters have confirmed that Sabres newly acquired star, Evander Kane, was absent from practice Sunday morning. Sources say the team waited 25 minutes for Kane to arrive before they began running their routine drills. When asked about his absence, the star forward did not shy away from the media.
?Sunday morning is just such a bad time for me? says Evander. ?I had to go grocery shopping along with tons of other ****. Also, my girlfriend was being such a ***** that day so I had to go out and grab her a birthday present?.
So far Evander Kane has 2 points in his first 5 games with the struggling Buffalo Sabres. Despite the importance of practice for a team in the midst of a rebuild, Kane also stresses the importance of other ****. ?I don?t think people really understand my situation. It took me forever to find the aisle that sells cereal, and my girl locked my phone for 35 minutes trying to guess my password?.
There is no word from Sabres management on whether or not Kane will be in the lineup on Wednesday against Toronto. It does, however, seem unlikely considering Kane stated that his schedule this Wednesday is ?packed with ****?.
....good one?
Quote from: theaardvark on October 23, 2015, 03:39:25 AM
http://puckernews.com/2015/10/19/report-evander-kane-misses-practice-with-severe-case-of-other-****-to-do/
Report: Evander Kane Misses Practice With Severe Case of ?Other **** To Do?
BUFFALO ? Multiple reporters have confirmed that Sabres newly acquired star, Evander Kane, was absent from practice Sunday morning. Sources say the team waited 25 minutes for Kane to arrive before they began running their routine drills. When asked about his absence, the star forward did not shy away from the media.
?Sunday morning is just such a bad time for me? says Evander. ?I had to go grocery shopping along with tons of other ****. Also, my girlfriend was being such a ***** that day so I had to go out and grab her a birthday present?.
So far Evander Kane has 2 points in his first 5 games with the struggling Buffalo Sabres. Despite the importance of practice for a team in the midst of a rebuild, Kane also stresses the importance of other ****. ?I don?t think people really understand my situation. It took me forever to find the aisle that sells cereal, and my girl locked my phone for 35 minutes trying to guess my password?.
There is no word from Sabres management on whether or not Kane will be in the lineup on Wednesday against Toronto. It does, however, seem unlikely considering Kane stated that his schedule this Wednesday is ?packed with ****?.
This is a joke....
Quote from: Colton on October 23, 2015, 01:54:58 AM
One has 100 points in the playoffs, the other is tied for 9th all time in GWG in the playoffs. They do absolutely nothing ::)
How can I say that? Because I've watched almost every game he has coached for seven years. He made the playoffs 6 times and was eliminated in 4 straight games in 3 of those, one of which was a reverse sweep. Fun fact, they were almost (and probably should have been) reverse swept three years earlier too! Don't even get me started on all of the cancerous captaincy BS he pulled.
What do you know about TMac other than the positive news you read about him to make yourself feel good about the hiring?
I could tell you exactly what there isn't to like about Talbot, but you won't listen to any of it just like you didn't listen to the exact reasoning I gave to you about Scrivens.
Colton ur not gonna give anything good to say about oilers because ur old coach is there.
So what's the point LOL ? Yes it's all McL fault u guy's been eliminated, ok I understand.
I guess will see how he does in his first season. And ok...Talbot ain't that great, gotcha. Us Oilers fan's will also watch him play this year, so far he is doing exactly what he did with NYR. Talbot I'm sure will have bad goals let in,bad game here and there, like any goalie!
Sharks are #1 now that McL is out of there at least. Now they'll win divisions and win some cups at least, we did you a favor :)
Quote from: Jersey on October 23, 2015, 01:35:15 PM
Colton ur not gonna give anything good to say about oilers because ur old coach is there.
So what's the point LOL ? Yes it's all McL fault u guy's been eliminated, ok I understand.
I guess will see how he does in his first season. And ok...Talbot ain't that great, gotcha. Us Oilers fan's will also watch him play this year, so far he is doing exactly what he did with NYR. Talbot I'm sure will have bad goals let in,bad game here and there, like any goalie!
Sharks are #1 now that McL is out of there at least. Now they'll win divisions and win some cups at least, we did you a favor :)
I haven't said one word about the Oilers as a team, I've made comments about two people and those two people only.
Hey I'll step up to the plate! THE OILERS SUCK STILL!!
Ya they won 3 games in a row whoopie
Welcome to the "win a game or two in a row club!" LoL
They still will be a basement team and end up with a top 10 draft pick yet again.
As far as there coach hoes Colton seems to know this guys habits and they sure don't sound encouraging.
I for one am continuing to find there crappiness entertaining.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 23, 2015, 03:39:25 AM
http://puckernews.com/2015/10/19/report-evander-kane-misses-practice-with-severe-case-of-other-****-to-do/
Report: Evander Kane Misses Practice With Severe Case of ?Other **** To Do?
BUFFALO ? Multiple reporters have confirmed that Sabres newly acquired star, Evander Kane, was absent from practice Sunday morning. Sources say the team waited 25 minutes for Kane to arrive before they began running their routine drills. When asked about his absence, the star forward did not shy away from the media.
?Sunday morning is just such a bad time for me? says Evander. ?I had to go grocery shopping along with tons of other ****. Also, my girlfriend was being such a ***** that day so I had to go out and grab her a birthday present?.
So far Evander Kane has 2 points in his first 5 games with the struggling Buffalo Sabres. Despite the importance of practice for a team in the midst of a rebuild, Kane also stresses the importance of other ****. ?I don?t think people really understand my situation. It took me forever to find the aisle that sells cereal, and my girl locked my phone for 35 minutes trying to guess my password?.
There is no word from Sabres management on whether or not Kane will be in the lineup on Wednesday against Toronto. It does, however, seem unlikely considering Kane stated that his schedule this Wednesday is ?packed with ****?.
must be a joke...but i believed it for a second or two until i read the part about the cereal aisle lol
and its still early but man it looks like the Sabres got hosed on that Kane trade lol
Ok ok so it's not real.
Sure would have been golden had it been real.
Sounds like his life in a nut shell though.
Did he miss or late for practise though?
The fact that anyone would think it is real speaks volumes about the guy. Chevy absolutely robbed Buffalo, Myers, on a great contract, was more than enough for all we gave up. The rest is awesome sauce...
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 23, 2015, 10:42:02 PM
Ok ok so it's not real.
Sure would have been golden had it been real.
Sounds like his life in a nut shell though.
Did he miss or late for practise though?
dont think so..he put 18:00 minutes of ice time in tonight,,,in a 7-2 thrashing by the Canadians...Kane will be traded to the Kings before christmas
Quote from: theaardvark on October 23, 2015, 10:49:53 PM
The fact that anyone would think it is real speaks volumes about the guy. Chevy absolutely robbed Buffalo, Myers, on a great contract, was more than enough for all we gave up. The rest is awesome sauce...
Speaks volumes about the person reading it, nothing about Kane.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 23, 2015, 06:27:21 PM
Hey I'll step up to the plate! THE OILERS SUCK STILL!!
Ya they won 3 games in a row whoopie
Welcome to the "win a game or two in a row club!" LoL
They still will be a basement team and end up with a top 10 draft pick yet again.
As far as there coach hoes Colton seems to know this guys habits and they sure don't sound encouraging.
I for one am continuing to find there crappiness entertaining.
Well I don't find watching crapiness entertaining lol, although u like watching our Bombers ;)
If we had another top pick freaking FOLD OUR ORGANIZATION. We shouldn't have one for a loooooong time. That was crazy game yesterday...
i hope Buffalo is still hurting from that loss last night and the Devils can take advantage!! with my luck Ullmark will get his first career shut out in his first career NHL game and Kane will score a hattrick ::) :D
Quote from: theaardvark on October 23, 2015, 10:49:53 PM
The fact that anyone would think it is real speaks volumes about the guy. Chevy absolutely robbed Buffalo, Myers, on a great contract, was more than enough for all we gave up. The rest is awesome sauce...
Not really. It does, however, speak to gullibility of ignorant sports fans who quickly turn on a player when he's no longer wearing their team's colours.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 25, 2015, 11:04:43 PM
Not really. It does, however, speak to gullibility of ignorant sports fans who quickly turn on a player when he's no longer wearing their team's colours.
its come out that Kane did in fact ask for a trade every off season in Winnipeg....he?s a real team guy...couldnt be happier to have that cancer off our team and im sure the sabres are happy he wont be around the team for the next 4-6 months...watch them start winning games now that hes injured
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 26, 2015, 08:27:55 PM
its come out that Kane did in fact ask for a trade every off season in Winnipeg....he?s a real team guy...couldnt be happier to have that cancer off our team and im sure the sabres are happy he wont be around the team for the next 4-6 months...watch them start winning games now that hes injured
He's out for 4-6 weeks.
I don't blame Kane for wanting out of this city and away from the racist fan base.
Quote from: Colton on October 26, 2015, 08:31:23 PM
He's out for 4-6 weeks.
I don't blame Kane for wanting out of this city and away from the racist fan base.
sorry..i meant weeks.....ya...we are so racist :D
Quote from: Colton on October 26, 2015, 08:31:23 PM
He's out for 4-6 weeks.
I don't blame Kane for wanting out of this city and away from the racist fan base.
takes one to know one
Kane what a doosh
Rick Ralf sure hates his butt just bashing him on the radio
Kane's and joke and Chevy killed in in that trade Bogo hurt as well. Ouch!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 26, 2015, 09:01:58 PM
Rick Ralf sure hates his butt just bashing him on the radio
he must be racist then
Quote from: Colton on October 26, 2015, 08:31:23 PM
He's out for 4-6 weeks.
I don't blame Kane for wanting out of this city and away from the racist fan base.
You forgot the ;) after the racist comment... the hate for Kane had nothing to do with the colour of his skin, but his delta bravo persona. Moneyphone... yeesh.
If we were so racist, why is Buff so popular?
Quote from: theaardvark on October 26, 2015, 09:25:56 PM
You forgot the ;) after the racist comment... the hate for Kane had nothing to do with the colour of his skin, but his delta bravo persona. Moneyphone... yeesh.
If we were so racist, why is Buff so popular?
ya colty why?
Quote from: theaardvark on October 26, 2015, 09:25:56 PM
You forgot the ;) after the racist comment... the hate for Kane had nothing to do with the colour of his skin, but his delta bravo persona. Moneyphone... yeesh.
If we were so racist, why is Buff so popular?
All the people calling him a nigger for shaving ymcmb into his head aren't racist? Alright then.
Winnipeggers can tolerate black athletes playing for their teams, they flip their **** when said athlete doesn't "act white". See quite a few athletes on the 2011 Bomber squad.
You have made racist comments on this very forum that had to be removed. Or have you forgotten that?
Quote from: Colton on October 26, 2015, 10:01:02 PM
All the people calling him a nigger for shaving ymcmb into his head aren't racist? Alright then.
when was this?
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 26, 2015, 10:07:28 PM
when was this?
When he shaved YMCMB into his hair, when he posted photos of himself holding stacks of money, when his track suit debacle occurred, when he was traded, today, likely a lot of days in between that end in Y.
and i think claiming that the Winnipeg Jets fanbase is racist is a pretty strong charge to make....i would say, like in any other place in the entire world, there are racist people...but to call the entire fan base is absolutely ridiculous....ive seen plenty of Kane jerseys over the years...ive discussed the Kane subject with many fans over the years as well and have never heard one of them refer to his skin color...so it must be the cirlcles you hang with i guess 8)
Quote from: Colton on October 26, 2015, 10:09:19 PM
When he shaved YMCMB into his hair, when he posted photos of himself holding stacks of money, when his track suit debacle occurred, when he was traded, today, likely a lot of days in between that end in Y.
i never seen or heard anyone calling him that, not to say that a few idiots didnt use that term, but lets not make it out like majority of people in this city used that term
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 26, 2015, 10:10:58 PM
and i think claiming that the Winnipeg Jets fanbase is racist is a pretty strong charge to make....i would say, like in any other place in the entire world, there are racist people...but to call the entire fan base is absolutely ridiculous....ive seen plenty of Kane jerseys over the years...ive discussed the Kane subject with many fans over the years as well and have never heard one of them refer to his skin color...so it must be the cirlcles you hang with i guess 8)
That's a cop out. It's a serious issue in this city. There are other cities (Boston) that have a similar severity of the issue, does that excuse Winnipeg of it somehow?
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 26, 2015, 10:12:07 PM
i never seen or heard anyone calling him that, not to say that a few idiots didnt use that term, but lets not make it out like majority of people in this city used that term
It's not even just using the word, there is also just the assumptions made about him because of the harmless things he does. He's not allowed to associate with anything that makes Winnipeggers uncomfortable without being labeled this or that, despite showing absolutely no signs of actually being/acting what he gets accused of. That is racism.
Quote from: Colton on October 26, 2015, 10:16:59 PM
That's a cop out. It's a serious issue in this city. There are other cities (Boston) that have a similar severity of the issue, does that excuse Winnipeg of it somehow?
it isnt a cop out...im not denying it doesnt exist...but i dont believe white people chased Kane out of here wearing white sheets and torches
meh...people didnt like him because he was arrogant, with nothing to back it up....and your right, Winnipeggers dont like arrogant people, and I personally dont see anything wrong with that...but lets not turn it into a black/white thing.....people like Wheeler, Little, Ladd because they are quiet guys and let there play on the ice speak for them...not because there white lol
Quote from: AngryGreg on October 26, 2015, 10:37:48 PM
meh...people didnt like him because he was arrogant, with nothing to back it up....and your right, Winnipeggers dont like arrogant people, and I personally dont see anything wrong with that...but lets not turn it into a black/white thing.....people like Wheeler, Little, Ladd because they are quiet guys and let there play on the ice speak for them...not because there white lol
And a lot of the people who didn't like him for a lot of other ignorant reasons, but we just ignore those.
Posts discussing or accusing posters of racism have been removed. Please do not go there in future.
Quote from: Colton on October 26, 2015, 10:01:02 PM
All the people calling him a nigger for shaving ymcmb into his head aren't racist? Alright then.
Winnipeggers can tolerate black athletes playing for their teams, they flip their **** when said athlete doesn't "act white". See quite a few athletes on the 2011 Bomber squad.
You have made racist comments on this very forum that had to be removed. Or have you forgotten that?
you're completely out to lunch. Your reasoning has no proof or base.
Your posts are beyond ridiculous. And if you can't see that you're in the same boat as Kane himself.
Cheers!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2015, 08:23:55 PM
you're completely out to lunch. Your reasoning has no proof or base.
Kane himself made the claim, how is there no proof or base? Did you not even read the article?
Quote from: Colton on October 27, 2015, 08:26:51 PM
Kane himself made the claim, how is there no proof or base? Did you not even read the article?
lol taking his word for it? Really? Wow you put up a great argument considering the idiotic source!
Bravo :D
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2015, 08:34:37 PM
lol taking his word for it? Really? Wow you put up a great argument considering the idiotic source!
Bravo :D
I'm not taking his word for it, I've seen and heard it.
You told me I had no proof or base, I showed you that was an incorrect statement.
Quote from: Colton on October 27, 2015, 08:40:44 PM
I'm not taking his word for it, I've seen and heard it.
You told me I had no proof or base, I showed you that was an incorrect statement.
you're not worth the energy.
Just because he claimed something was said... yeesh. He also claimed that no one in the Jets locker room had his back, and that the coach did not appreciate him playing hurt. So, right there... you get where his head is at.
Just heard his latest gem... a leading question no doubt, but a telling answer. When asked "Who in teh NHL right now would yo most like to drop the gloves with", his response? "Andrew Ladd or Blake Wheeler". Funny he didn't mention Buff, who was the one who purportedly tossed his track suit in the shower. Who would wipe up the floor with him.
Does Peluso dress for the return of the Natural? I hope so...
so on an upcoming episode of Barstool Sports..they asked Kane who he would most like to "drop the gloves"...his response was Ladd or Wheeler....this guy continues to be a class act
that being said i only heard the one comment, so i have no idea if he followed it up with a joke or if he was serious
you owe me a beer Aards :D
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2015, 08:43:12 PM
you're not worth the energy.
You asked a question I give the answer and you get pissy about it. Go figure.
Quote from: Colton on October 27, 2015, 08:48:06 PM
You asked a question I give the answer and you get pissy about it. Go figure.
I am not mad at all I just don't think you are worth the discussion. Go figure
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2015, 08:57:11 PM
I am not mad at all I just don't think you are worth the discussion. Go figure
::)
Quote from: Colton on October 27, 2015, 08:48:06 PM
You asked a question I give the answer and you get pissy about it. Go figure.
your proof is from a truly pathetic source as Kane is not worth arguing with you about.
I think your pissy not me😎
Quote from: theaardvark on October 27, 2015, 08:46:18 PM
Just because he claimed something was said... yeesh. He also claimed that no one in the Jets locker room had his back, and that the coach did not appreciate him playing hurt. So, right there... you get where his head is at.
Just heard his latest gem... a leading question no doubt, but a telling answer. When asked "Who in teh NHL right now would yo most like to drop the gloves with", his response? "Andrew Ladd or Blake Wheeler". Funny he didn't mention Buff, who was the one who purportedly tossed his track suit in the shower. Who would wipe up the floor with him.
Does Peluso dress for the return of the Natural? I hope so...
bang on I agree with ards on a topic!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 27, 2015, 08:59:58 PM
your proof is from a truly pathetic source as Kane is not worth arguing with you about.
I think your pissy not me😎
You asked ::)
Enough already.
Devils win again...im liking this rebuilding year so far 8)
Devils are in the league still
Oops must have forgotten.
:D
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 03, 2015, 09:05:20 PM
Devils are in the league still
Oops must have forgotten.
:D
Mods!! Goldmember is being mean again!!!
Quote from: AngryGreg on November 03, 2015, 09:42:24 PM
Mods!! Goldmember is being mean again!!!
mean? I'm never mean!
Other than Schneider and Henrique I don't know who plays on the team . Kinda in the same boat as Columbus just a lot of no name players.
That's all
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 03, 2015, 10:30:58 PM
mean? I'm never mean!
Other than Schneider and Henrique I don't know who plays on the team . Kinda in the same boat as Columbus just a lot of no name players.
c'mon bro...look at my signature!! :D
shame for Edmonton
... and with the first overall pick in 2016, the Edmonton Oilers choose....
Quote from: theaardvark on November 05, 2015, 05:56:46 AM
... and with the first overall pick in 2016, the Edmonton Oilers choose....
thats totally reasonable of the question. Sad really and a bit of a failure in how they pick first overall picks. when you look at it. It's not really fare they way they have it.
meh...who cares about Edmonton, and who cares about McDavid
Lottery should preclude the previous year's number one from this years #1 pick. They should be restricted to #2 at best.
amazing how well the Sabres are playing recently with Kane away from the team
Hamonic expands list of trade destinations:
http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/rumor-roundup-travis-hamonic-expands-list-of-trade-destinations-to-wild-avalanche/ (http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/rumor-roundup-travis-hamonic-expands-list-of-trade-destinations-to-wild-avalanche/)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 23, 2015, 05:16:47 PM
Hamonic expands list of trade destinations:
http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/rumor-roundup-travis-hamonic-expands-list-of-trade-destinations-to-wild-avalanche/ (http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/rumor-roundup-travis-hamonic-expands-list-of-trade-destinations-to-wild-avalanche/)
Wasn't quite sure how Minnesota/Colorado/Chicago weren't on the list while a place like Vancouver was if the need is to be able to get to Winnipeg as fast as possible.
he will be an................Avalanche :P
Quote from: AngryGreg on November 23, 2015, 09:22:28 PM
he will be an................Avalanche :P
If Duchene is on the table I would listen to offers if I were NYI. I was hoping for a trade revolving around Duchene/Byfuglien.
Quote from: Colton on November 23, 2015, 09:48:53 PM
If Duchene is on the table I would listen to offers if I were NYI. I was hoping for a trade revolving around Duchene/Byfuglien.
ya...i just dont think Buff's trade value is very high at all right now...
Quote from: AngryGreg on November 24, 2015, 12:11:50 AM
ya...i just dont think Buff's trade value is very high at all right now...
?
High or low?
I'd say average
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 26, 2015, 01:30:36 AM
?
High or low?
I'd say average
id agree..id say it will be higher near the deadline..hes not moving anywhere until then
Buff was offered, Isles wain no...
http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2015/11/30/report-jets-offered-byfuglien-for-hamonic-isles-said-no/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
G-Force sighting
looks like Trouba is the magic ticket...do it Chevy...it will be worth it
Quote from: theaardvark on November 05, 2015, 05:56:46 AM
... and with the first overall pick in 2016, the Edmonton Oilers choose....
LOL Aardv you're so smart... I love when u type, nothing ever seems to come out right. Keep on hating baby.
"Who cares about oilers". Jets fan's , thats who. Lol. Only one's to always write about em . :)
Quote from: Jersey on December 10, 2015, 01:57:10 AM
LOL Aardv you're so smart... I love when u type, nothing ever seems to come out right. Keep on hating baby.
"Who cares about oilers". Jets fan's , thats who. Lol. Only one's to always write about em . :)
Wow... that's your response to a *joke* from over a month ago? It took you that long to put together that gem? Wow, I am sorely overmatched. You win the internet, sir.
No I just don't talk **** month into a season. Nor do I come on here daily as it's off season. Way to show ur smarts as usual tho
Quote from: Jersey on December 11, 2015, 12:59:30 AM
No I just don't talk **** month into a season. Nor do I come on here daily as it's off season. Way to show ur smarts as usual tho
To just be fair here..... If YOUR Oilers were doing good you would be talking crap. LOL
;)
We are doing good. (4 wins in a row, 6 straight wins at home, 3 losses in out last 10, 3 pts outta playoff spot. Hallsy top 5 point getter, Drai top 4 PPG. All this without our mcD, Yak, Pouliot. We played also over half year without mcd, Eberle and Schultz)
I don't ever talk smack in nhl season as it's long year but I'll be happy with win's and consistency. Who wouldn't? I sure don't need to out other teams down because really what's that doing for my team? Worry about ur own backyard before expressing other's. Plus we have no right to gloat when we have a lot of work to do and become a real identity in this league. Oilers fan's know, we ain't there yet. Eventually we need to get bigger and stronger.
I just dont understand Winnipeg obsession with hating Edmonton. It was loooong ago when they best jets every year. None of players play anymore. Winnipeg lost its team for years, rivalry is no longer anymore. Edmonton moved on I'd say in about year 1993.
Only Winnipeg holds on, lol. It's like oilers fans hating Dallas, we don't anymore not is it rivalry. Was amazing back in late 90's early 2000's but complete different era now, New blood in both rosters, just another game. It's not just this fan forum, it's many Winnipeg fan forums where I read such thing's.
Oilers will lose and have bad times again this year but it's how they react to losses. Are they gonna fold, or finally mature and learn to win together? It be nice NOT to finish at bottom of nhl and be laughing stock.
I don't think anyone in Winnipeg is particularly "obsessed" with hating the Oilers. You probably just think that because that's where you live. If you go anywhere else you'll hear the same thing- which is usually a real good chuckle.
Aardvark didn't make that comment because he has this obsession with the Oilers, it's because this is a general NHL forum. There have been tons of comments made about other teams but you took particular offense to one because it happens to be yours. The Oilers have been the NHL's whipping boy for a long time, have been rewarded with first overall picks, and still haven't improved in the long term, and so you might see a snarky comment about them from time to time. Get over it...
Quote from: Jersey on December 11, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
I just dont understand Winnipeg obsession with hating Edmonton.
This is just flat out wrong. Unless you have some actual evidence upon which to back your silly claim. I'd say 99% of Winnipeggers and probably 95% of the Jets fanbase don't give a rip about the FirstOveralls... I mean the Oilers. And I think 99% of Oilers fans don't care, either.
How about we keep this thread about NHL talk and not your insecurities...? ::)
The Canadiens are on a bit of a slide recently, having lost four straight.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 11, 2015, 01:54:34 PM
This is just flat out wrong. Unless you have some actual evidence upon which to back your silly claim. I'd say 99% of Winnipeggers and probably 95% of the Jets fanbase doesn't give a rip about the FirstOveralls... I mean the Oilers. And I think 99% of Oilers fans don't care, either.
How about we keep this thread about NHL talk and not your insecurities...? ::)
The Canadiens are on a bit of a slide recently, having lost four straight.
This
And jus to add .... The Oilers are to irrelevant to care about.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 11, 2015, 01:54:34 PM
This is just flat out wrong. Unless you have some actual evidence upon which to back your silly claim. I'd say 99% of Winnipeggers and probably 95% of the Jets fanbase don't give a rip about the FirstOveralls... I mean the Oilers. And I think 99% of Oilers fans don't care, either.
How about we keep this thread about NHL talk and not your insecurities...? ::)
The Canadiens are on a bit of a slide recently, having lost four straight.
Thx we enjoy our picks of who we wanted 1st over all! Enjoy your first round exits, I mean Jets. If anyone knows anything about losing its city of Winnipeg ;) :( Just saying...
Quote from: Jersey on December 11, 2015, 08:35:55 PM
Thx we enjoy our picks of who we wanted 1st over all! Enjoy your first round exits, I mean Jets. If anyone knows anything about losing its city of Winnipeg ;) :( Just saying...
And the best part is you're from Winnipeg and are not only a Bombers fan, but a part-time Jets fan... LOL :D
And at least the Jets can make the post-season and compete well during the season. Despite having a plethora of first rounders, the Oilers can't even put together a respectable regular season campaign. But keep partying like it's 1990. As a Bomber fan, I'm sure that comes easy for you.
The vast majority of people in Winnipeg don't care about the Oilers.
Quote from: Jersey on December 11, 2015, 08:35:55 PM
Thx we enjoy our picks of who we wanted 1st over all! Enjoy your first round exits, I mean Jets. If anyone knows anything about losing its city of Winnipeg ;) :( Just saying...
We certainly did. Not finishing dead last feels pretty good. Not that the Jets know what that feels like..
Quote from: Jersey on December 11, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
I just dont understand Winnipeg obsession with hating Edmonton. It was loooong ago when they best jets every year. None of players play anymore. Winnipeg lost its team for years, rivalry is no longer anymore. Edmonton moved on I'd say in about year 1993.
Only Winnipeg holds on, lol. It's like oilers fans hating Dallas, we don't anymore not is it rivalry. Was amazing back in late 90's early 2000's but complete different era now, New blood in both rosters, just another game. It's not just this fan forum, it's many Winnipeg fan forums where I read such thing's.
Oilers will lose and have bad times again this year but it's how they react to losses. Are they gonna fold, or finally mature and learn to win together? It be nice NOT to finish at bottom of nhl and be laughing stock.
You're too young to understand.
Meanwhile In Edmonton we have our ceremony tonight :)!!!!!!!!!! sather and all the greats!
Im not part time Jets fan, i dont hate the jets. Yes im bombers fan hence the sad face I put.
Mike you're around my age man... lol. I already posted about history. But there cant be anymore, its over looooooong time ago. Until we battle in playoffs and re make history ;)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 11, 2015, 08:56:44 PM
And the best part is you're from Winnipeg and are not only a Bombers fan, but a part-time Jets fan... LOL :D
And at least the Jets can make the post-season and compete well during the season. Despite having a plethora of first rounders, the Oilers can't even put together a respectable regular season campaign. But keep partying like it's 1990. As a Bomber fan, I'm sure that comes easy for you.
The vast majority of people in Winnipeg don't care about the Oilers.
Takes a shot at himself, LMAO!
btw man, at least Oilers fans know what it feels like ;) 2006 WE WERE ONE GAME AWAY FROM THE CUP! You can party like.. AHH, UM, 1996? 1993? 1992? 1990? 1988? Ah nm... ;) you woluldnt no.
I find it fun just getting heat about my team's. being the bad guy is way funner. Like going to enemy's territory cheering on your team :) except for when you lose, ok its lil embarrassing :@
But im all for it, we do it a lot. but I wont try it with Bombers again until were better, wow everytime we go on the road they get fing BLASTED.
Buck buck in net... 55 gets the first shift, deservedly.
Citing the fact the Penguins have "underachieved," and are equally as close to the bottom of the Metropolitan division as the top, GM Jim
Rutherford admitted he'd been pondering a coaching change since mid-November.
Rutherford pulled the trigger on Saturday, firing head coach Mike Johnston and promoting coach Mike Sullivan from the AHL. Sullivan is a former Boston Bruins head coach and long-time NHL assistant.
"We've underachieved," Rutherford told reporters. "This team has more to give."
http://www.tsn.ca/penguins-fire-head-coach-johnston-sullivan-named-replacement-1.408168
Quote from: Jersey on December 11, 2015, 10:39:56 PM
2006 WE WERE ONE GAME AWAY FROM THE CUP!
And the Oilers still lost in 2006. "We almost won!" You sound like a Canucks fan. ::)
Quote from: Jersey on December 11, 2015, 10:42:52 PM
I find it fun just getting heat about my team's. being the bad guy is way funner. Like going to enemy's territory cheering on your team :) except for when you lose, ok its lil embarrassing :@
But im all for it, we do it a lot. but I wont try it with Bombers again until were better, wow everytime we go on the road they get fing BLASTED.
You probably wouldn't lose so much if you had a competent goalie in net ;)
huh? 6 in a row I believe. Talbot wins vs Bruins tonight
Quote from: Colton on December 14, 2015, 09:19:49 PM
You probably wouldn't lose so much if you had a competent goalie in net ;)
ahh that goal tending beat ur sharks ;) 8-3-1 in last 12 and 6 in a row. and now in a playoff spot! Nilsson 2 weeks ago was nhl stars of week too ;)
With all injuries latest being Klefbom, we keep finding ways to win :) Its been a long time to be so excited in E town and we finally can start enjoying our team.
Quote from: bomber4life85 on December 15, 2015, 02:08:43 AM
huh? 6 in a row I believe. Talbot wins vs Bruins tonight
I was teasing that Talbot isn't any good whatsoever, there was some banter about him a month or two ago.
Kane's point streak ends at 26 games:
http://www.tsn.ca/kane-s-streak-ends-as-avs-blank-blackhawks-1.409942 (http://www.tsn.ca/kane-s-streak-ends-as-avs-blank-blackhawks-1.409942)
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Semyon Varlamov and the Colorado Avalanche found a perfect way to snap Blackhawks star Patrick Kane's franchise record points streak.
Varlamov stopped 29 shots for his first shutout of the season, leading the Colorado Avalanche to a 3-0 victory over Chicago on Tuesday night and ending Kane's streak at 26 games.
Against the Avs, no less. Well, they're not last in the Central anymore.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 16, 2015, 01:41:26 PM
Kane's point streak ends at 26 games:
http://www.tsn.ca/kane-s-streak-ends-as-avs-blank-blackhawks-1.409942 (http://www.tsn.ca/kane-s-streak-ends-as-avs-blank-blackhawks-1.409942)
Against the Avs, no less. Well, they're not last in the Central anymore.
must be nice to get the odd shutout!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on December 16, 2015, 04:47:40 PM
must be nice to get the odd shutout!
Or a win over a division rival... :-[
I saw this nonsense yesterday on my FB feed and thought I'd share:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/pk-subban-montreal-canadiens-pronounciation-1.3367573 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/pk-subban-montreal-canadiens-pronounciation-1.3367573)
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A Quebec language group is raising a stink over how to pronounce the name of Montreal Canadiens star defenceman P.K. Subban, arguing French broadcasters should say it the French way.
L'Association pour l'usage et le soutien de la langue francaise argues French-language broadcasters should use the French pronunciation of his abbreviated first name, "Pay-Ka," rather than the English, "Pea-Kay."
Robert Auclair, founder of the group, said the name should be pronounced in the language of the intended audience.
In a statement obtained by Montreal's La Presse, Auclair said the suggestion should be viewed as "constructive" criticism rather than an admonishment.
Auclair points out that, in the past, English broadcasters referred to former Hab Jean-Claude Tremblay by the English "Jay-See" rather than the French "Gee-Say."
Pretty ridiculous.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 17, 2015, 01:46:07 PM
I saw this nonsense yesterday on my FB feed and thought I'd share:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/pk-subban-montreal-canadiens-pronounciation-1.3367573 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/pk-subban-montreal-canadiens-pronounciation-1.3367573)
Pretty ridiculous.
those francophones are nuts!! Completely insecure and nuts!
Congrats to Calgary for great win streak. I really respect that organization. There young guns are awesome to watch. Pure respect.
Edmonton, um man.... You guys been really close last 2 games. Way they playing, jets will run right thru Edmonton. Just out hit **** outta oilers. They better figure out life, quick. Or Jets will eat us for din din.
Edmonton is really going down tonight!
Jets need to pound them HARD!
http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/police-courts/sources-evander-kane-is-subject-of-sex-offense-investigation-20151227
Worked to get the other Kane producing... is he trying to follow suit?
Quote from: theaardvark on December 27, 2015, 09:50:11 PM
http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/police-courts/sources-evander-kane-is-subject-of-sex-offense-investigation-20151227
Worked to get the other Kane producing... is he trying to follow suit?
LOL
Evander Kane under investigation for sexual assault allegations.
Brilliant and I would say the timing is just about right!!
Quote from: theaardvark on December 27, 2015, 09:50:11 PM
http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/police-courts/sources-evander-kane-is-subject-of-sex-offense-investigation-20151227
Worked to get the other Kane producing... is he trying to follow suit?
Because Patrick Kane was so unproductive before this season, right...? ???
Must be something in that Buffalo water.
http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2015/12/28/evander-kane-denies-any-wrongdoing-in-encounter-with-20-year-old-woman/
Although Kane did not provide any further details during his brief statement, sources familiar with the case said he has told people that he had consensual sex with the young woman after meeting her in a downtown bar and taking her to his room in the Buffalo Marriott HarborCenter early Sunday morning.
Authorities said Buffalo Police responded to a 911 call from a hospital about 7:40 a.m. Sunday after the woman went there for treatment of an injury.
The woman?s statement to police prompted an investigation by the Sex Offense Squad to determine if she had been sexually assaulted, sources said. Authorities said the woman told police she has ?no recollection? of what actually happened between her and Kane.
The woman was examined for signs of sexual assault in a local hospital, and signs of trauma were found on her body, authorities said.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 29, 2015, 05:40:38 AM
http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2015/12/28/evander-kane-denies-any-wrongdoing-in-encounter-with-20-year-old-woman/
Although Kane did not provide any further details during his brief statement, sources familiar with the case said he has told people that he had consensual sex with the young woman after meeting her in a downtown bar and taking her to his room in the Buffalo Marriott HarborCenter early Sunday morning.
Authorities said Buffalo Police responded to a 911 call from a hospital about 7:40 a.m. Sunday after the woman went there for treatment of an injury.
The woman?s statement to police prompted an investigation by the Sex Offense Squad to determine if she had been sexually assaulted, sources said. Authorities said the cwoman told police she has ?no recollection? of what actually happened between her and Kane.
The woman was examined for signs of sexual assault in a local hospital, and signs of trauma were found on her body, authorities said.
not to bright a girl to mess around with that dude.
It is going to be interesting to see what the hotel tapes reveal... consent requires the parties to not be impaired, if she can't remember anything, it might be a case of Kane thinking "She didn't say No" was consent.
Did anyone think that, nearing the halfway point in the season, Ryan Getzlaf would only have 2 more goals than Chris Getzlaf?
Brad Marchand still up to his greaseball antics... I really hope the NHL throws the book at that dirty goof and he misses a few games. For such a skilled player, he's sure stupid.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 30, 2015, 02:15:40 PM
Brad Marchand still up to his greaseball antics... I really hope the NHL throws the book at that dirty goof and he misses a few games. For such a skilled player, he's sure stupid.
Sadly, I doubt it. A suspension takes him out of the Winter Classic. Watch him get the max possible fine.
Quote from: Colton on December 30, 2015, 03:38:47 PM
Sadly, I doubt it. A suspension takes him out of the Winter Classic. Watch him get the max possible fine.
Sounds like it's a phone hearing. I doubt he misses the WC. :-\
What a cheap, practised, move by Marchand. He has done this deliberate low to the knees motion before & it is just so unnecessary.
May get 2 games & a fine but IMO, just would not be enough for this repeat offender, of cheap shots.
BTW: late in game a replay shows him spearing an Ottawa player.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 30, 2015, 06:18:58 AM
It is going to be interesting to see what the hotel tapes reveal... consent requires the parties to not be impaired, if she can't remember anything, it might be a case of Kane thinking "She didn't say No" was consent.
It will be....
Terrific trade for both Nashville & Columbus ...... both teams are winners now in this great Hockey trade
Johannson gets lucky to be out of Torterella's claws & gets on a playoff bound team. Seth Jones gets to excell as a top pair Dman now, as he was behind Josi & Weber before.
Exciting to see action by GM's ..... hint to Chevy
Some big trades today. The Jones/Johansen swap should help both teams, I'm not sure what to make of the Kings acquiring Lecavalier and L. Schenn but considering the Flyers retained portions of both contracts, I'm guessing it's for veteran depth.
Also interesting to see Mike Richards sign with the Capitals. And for a friendly amount.
Read that Tampa's little rebel, J. Drouin, has been suspended indefinitely, without pay, for failing to report to play in tonight's Syracuse game.
His agent said that he & Jonathon, based on their agreement with Tampa on his conditioning stint, in preparation for his being traded ......... asked Tampa to now allow him to sit out further games, in order to keep him healthy. Tampa refused the request, so after playing one more game, Drouin now said I won't show up, trade me.
Crazy, privileged in hi own mind, man child, may now, IMO, slow down the process. Also, Yzerman may have to accept less for this talented head case
Look forward to hearing more
Yzerman has lost any advantage in this.
Any goal of moving this player for something has failed on him. He now gets nothing. He will now have to take less just to keep face.
Islanders may finfd them self in this same position.
Id trade them Postma and Chiarot for Ham.
I don't see the Islanders trading any of their defensemen considering the injuries they have.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 21, 2016, 01:35:57 AM
Yzerman has lost any advantage in this.
Any goal of moving this player for something has failed on him. He now gets nothing. He will now have to take less just to keep face.
Islanders may finfd them self in this same position.
Id trade them Postma and Chiarot for Ham.
Yzerman didn't have any advantage in the St. Louis trade and still fleeced NY in that deal. He's done nothing wrong in this situation either. He has no obligation to trade Drouin whatsoever.
Maybe he'll ship him over to Colorado so MacKinnon can fool everyone into thinking he is a competent hockey player for a second time.
Quote from: True Blue on January 21, 2016, 02:12:11 AM
I don't see the Islanders trading any of their defensemen considering the injuries they have.
Yes, Hamonic is day to day with back issues. Think he has missed about 4 games now & Boychuk much longer.
Postma & Chiarot may not be dangled by Chevy but maybe they would bite on a Postma, Peluso & Petan offering.
Quote from: Colton on January 21, 2016, 03:13:51 AM
Yzerman didn't have any advantage in the St. Louis trade and still fleeced NY in that deal. He's done nothing wrong in this situation either. He has no obligation to trade Drouin whatsoever.
Maybe he'll ship him over to Colorado so MacKinnon can fool everyone into thinking he is a competent hockey player for a second time.
no kidding McKinnon, all the hype, and for what? An average point getter in the league. Kinda sucks!
Does Drouin have the same agent as Lindross? ;D ::)
Quote from: Colton on January 21, 2016, 03:13:51 AM
Yzerman didn't have any advantage in the St. Louis trade and still fleeced NY in that deal. He's done nothing wrong in this situation either. He has no obligation to trade Drouin whatsoever.
This. Yzerman and the Lightning aren't at fault for any of this, IMO.
Drouin seems to have somewhat of a prima donna attitude and his jerk store of an agent is only throwing fuel on the fire with this public statements calling out the Lightning. This is a lose-lose for Drouin.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 21, 2016, 06:11:16 PM
This. Yzerman and the Lightning aren't at fault for any of this, IMO.
Drouin seems to have somewhat of a prima donna attitude and his jerk store of an agent is only throwing fuel on the fire with this public statements calling out the Lightning. This is a lose-lose for Drouin.
i can't see him being a Bonifide NHLer now!
But he has a case when a guy like Stamkos won't resign.... Yet. Something weird is happening with Stevie Y and the bolts???
Quote from: Colton on January 21, 2016, 03:13:51 AM
Yzerman didn't have any advantage in the St. Louis trade and still fleeced NY in that deal. He's done nothing wrong in this situation either. He has no obligation to trade Drouin whatsoever.
Maybe he'll ship him over to Colorado so MacKinnon can fool everyone into thinking he is a competent hockey player for a second time.
Somewhat agree.
Its become a cluster ... now.
I still think if Yzerman pulled the trigger and got it done at first hed have got more then he will now.
Drouin has sabotaged any deal in all ways. He looks bad now and team may not want him.
Hes still a young good player. His potential is big.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 22, 2016, 01:06:56 AM
Somewhat agree.
Its become a cluster ... now.
I still think if Yzerman pulled the trigger and got it done at first hed have got more then he will now.
Drouin has sabotaged any deal in all ways. He looks bad now and team may not want him.
Hes still a young good player. His potential is big.
It's been a cluster for about a year now, it's just far more public than it had been in the past. Many people have been privy to Drouin's terrible attitude since his time in Halifax, for sure all 30 GM's have known about it too.
If anything this whole thing helps Yzerman. The more Drouin plays at a professional level the more his stock is going to drop. He is absurdly overvalued right now. His potential was big about 3 years ago, I think most have discovered that all it was, was potential. Most teams gunning for him appear to be doing so with an attitude that they can fix him more so than they are getting anything of quality right now.
Quote from: Colton on January 22, 2016, 02:09:55 AM
It's been a cluster for about a year now, it's just far more public than it had been in the past. Many people have been privy to Drouin's terrible attitude since his time in Halifax, for sure all 30 GM's have known about it too.
If anything this whole thing helps Yzerman. The more Drouin plays at a professional level the more his stock is going to drop. He is absurdly overvalued right now. His potential was big about 3 years ago, I think most have discovered that all it was, was potential. Most teams gunning for him appear to be doing so with an attitude that they can fix him more so than they are getting anything of quality right now.
His worth to Yzerman was better before then it is now.
Its what i said to begin with.
Who cares screw Droin!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 21, 2016, 09:55:30 PM
i can't see him being a Bonifide NHLer now!
But he has a case when a guy like Stamkos won't resign.... Yet. Something weird is happening with Stevie Y and the bolts???
Not necessarily. Stamkos is a franchise player who wants a big payday. Yzerman can't just give him whatever he wants and risk handcuffing the organization, especially with other key players needing contracts in the near future. It's no different than Cheveldayoff's negotiations with Ladd and Byfuglien.
Drouin got a taste of the pros and now seems to think he is entitled to play at that level regardless of how he performs. That's a bad attitude for a professional athlete to have.
Sounds like buff is close heard zip on Ladd. Trade him and someone else for Hamonic!
http://www.tsn.ca/ducks-f-horcoff-suspended-20-games-for-peds-1.428881 (http://www.tsn.ca/ducks-f-horcoff-suspended-20-games-for-peds-1.428881)
Yikes. Must've been pretty low quality PEDs. :D
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 23, 2016, 03:10:59 PM
Sounds like buff is close heard zip on Ladd. Trade him and someone else for Hamonic!
Id trade Ladd n Pav for Ham in a sec.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on January 27, 2016, 12:12:36 AM
Id trade Ladd n Pav for Ham in a sec.
The Islanders don't want either of them.
Wideman? Accident, or on purpose.
Looking at the short gif's, immediately say "20 games".
Looking at the longer tapes, including the hit on him and him wobbling back to the bench, I'm thinking he's been knocked loopy, and is heading instinctively to the bench, doesn't see the linesman skating into his path until its too late, and bring up his stick to protect himself.
Some people are suggesting if it had been a red sweater, he'd hug instead of hit the guy, and that might be true. But we don't know that. If it had been an opponent, blocking his way to the bench, no issue.
Here is my concern. In the wild, Zebras are striped as camoflage, and I'm wondering if he was discombobulated enough that the optical centres of his brain couldn't resolve the black/white linesman from the boards/ice. That combo blends in nicely to the background and if his vision was fuzzy at all, that backwards skating lineman could have been a blur that suddenly resolved into an object a split second before the collision, and instinctively Wideman defends himself.
If this was a goon, or someone famous for stickwork, or taking cheap shots, I have no issue with throwing the book at him. But Wideman is not that player.
I think the bigger problem is being missed here. The fact that both he and the lineman continued without undergoing concussion protocols is disconcerting. People are claiming that because Wideman didn't go to the quiet room after his hit, it proves he knew what he was doing. I don't see that. I see that a player wasn't protected by the system and sent off. Then, things escalate, because the linesman ends up spending until 5am in the hospital going through the protocols. Should he not have done that at the time of the hit?
In my eyes, this was an unfortunate accident, and both player and linesman are victims of not being protected after the incident. Wideman will get 10-20 games, for sure, but I don't think he deserves that.
Flames' D Wideman suspended indefinitely:
http://www.tsn.ca/flames-wideman-suspended-indefinitely-1.430044 (http://www.tsn.ca/flames-wideman-suspended-indefinitely-1.430044)
What the hell was he thinking? I've watched the replay more than a dozen times and it sure doesn't seem accidental, as he seems to shove the linesman.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2016, 03:16:48 PM
Flames' D Wideman suspended indefinitely:
http://www.tsn.ca/flames-wideman-suspended-indefinitely-1.430044 (http://www.tsn.ca/flames-wideman-suspended-indefinitely-1.430044)
What the hell was he thinking? I've watched the replay more than a dozen times and it sure doesn't seem accidental, as he seems to shove the linesman.
Did you watch the whole replay including the hit on Wideman and him getting up and heading to the bench? Listen to the commentators...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOx0Cwi6wR0
If you just watch the gif's a completely different look...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiZEjWLgpMY
Quote from: theaardvark on January 29, 2016, 03:44:29 PM
Did you watch the whole replay including the hit on Wideman and him getting up and heading to the bench? Listen to the commentators...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOx0Cwi6wR0
If you just watch the gif's a completely different look...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiZEjWLgpMY
That's the exact replay I've watched and what's been shown on TV and online. What exactly am I listening to from the commentators?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2016, 03:16:48 PM
Flames' D Wideman suspended indefinitely:
http://www.tsn.ca/flames-wideman-suspended-indefinitely-1.430044 (http://www.tsn.ca/flames-wideman-suspended-indefinitely-1.430044)
What the hell was he thinking? I've watched the replay more than a dozen times and it sure doesn't seem accidental, as he seems to shove the linesman.
Such a dick move. If that's an accident he stops and makes sure he is alright. Who "accidentally" bulldozes a defenseless linesman and doesn't even stop to check if the guy was hurt or apologize? I was absolutely baffled when I saw how many people immediately jumped to defend this as an accident.
Quote from: Colton on January 29, 2016, 04:32:57 PM
Such a dick move. If that's an accident he stops and makes sure he is alright. Who "accidentally" bulldozes a defenseless linesman and doesn't even stop to check if the guy was hurt or apologize? I was absolutely baffled when I saw how many people immediately jumped to defend this as an accident.
My thoughts exactly. You stop, apologize, and make sure he's okay. Right then and there. Wideman waited until his next shift to go and say sorry. That seems pretty odd.
How anybody could reasonably defend what he did is beyond me.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2016, 04:03:31 PM
That's the exact replay I've watched and what's been shown on TV and online. What exactly am I listening to from the commentators?
Their first reaction was that he didn't see the linesman.
Quote from: Colton on January 29, 2016, 04:32:57 PM
Such a dick move. If that's an accident he stops and makes sure he is alright. Who "accidentally" bulldozes a defenseless linesman and doesn't even stop to check if the guy was hurt or apologize? I was absolutely baffled when I saw how many people immediately jumped to defend this as an accident.
Wideman had to get to the bench and sit down before he fell down. He was not in his right mind, and should have been sent to the quiet room. You can see how dazed he was on the bench. By the time he got his faculties back, he was back out on the ice, and apologized. I really think he should have been sent for protocol, but no hockey player would ever volunteer for that, teams and the league have to be a lot more proactive in sending these guys off.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2016, 04:42:48 PM
My thoughts exactly. You stop, apologize, and make sure he's okay. Right then and there. Wideman waited until his next shift to go and say sorry. That seems pretty odd.
How anybody could reasonably defend what he did is beyond me.
Not defending the action or outcome, just explaining that it wasn't a blatant attack on an official. He didn't skate up to an unsuspecting ref and whack him. He was heading to his safe place in a diminished capacity after whacking his head off the glass, and as a well camouflaged linesman skated into his path he brought his arms up (still holding his stick) to protect himself.
Was it intentional? Was it an attack on an official? Is he known for this kind of behaviour? Not at all.
Is it an offence deserving suspension? Yes. He will get 10 games minimum. Just like a player gets a penalty when his stick hits someone inadvertently, or gets his stick caught between another players legs. Not intentional, but actionable.
I just think he's getting a bad rap for what is obviously an accident, and that the league should have stepped in and put both Wideman and the linesman through the protocol. That's what its for. And its up to the league to make it happen, hockey players and refs are "too tough" to voluntarily subject themselves to protocol.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 29, 2016, 05:14:54 PM
Their first reaction was that he didn't see the linesman.
Wideman had to get to the bench and sit down before he fell down. He was not in his right mind, and should have been sent to the quiet room. You can see how dazed he was on the bench. By the time he got his faculties back, he was back out on the ice, and apologized. I really think he should have been sent for protocol, but no hockey player would ever volunteer for that, teams and the league have to be a lot more proactive in sending these guys off.
Not defending the action or outcome, just explaining that it wasn't a blatant attack on an official. He didn't skate up to an unsuspecting ref and whack him. He was heading to his safe place in a diminished capacity after whacking his head off the glass, and as a well camouflaged linesman skated into his path he brought his arms up (still holding his stick) to protect himself.
Was it intentional? Was it an attack on an official? Is he known for this kind of behaviour? Not at all.
Is it an offence deserving suspension? Yes. He will get 10 games minimum. Just like a player gets a penalty when his stick hits someone inadvertently, or gets his stick caught between another players legs. Not intentional, but actionable.
I just think he's getting a bad rap for what is obviously an accident, and that the league should have stepped in and put both Wideman and the linesman through the protocol. That's what its for. And its up to the league to make it happen, hockey players and refs are "too tough" to voluntarily subject themselves to protocol.
Who cares? How is that is any way relevant to what actually happened?
And you have no idea what he was feeling. So, don't try and tell anyone how you claim to know. The fact is he shoved a linesman after skating in a straight line from the top of the face-off circle with his head up and after slamming his stick on the ice in what appears to be frustration. And it isn't like he just skated into Henderson. He shoved him. He made the deliberate act of shoving him.
And he should be getting a bad rap for what he did. Watching the entirety of the replay shows it looks like anything but an accident. I don't see how there is a valid argument otherwise.
Glad he's suspended indefinitely. The dick head
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2016, 05:26:19 PM
Who cares? How is that is any way relevant to what actually happened?
And you have no idea what he was feeling. So, don't try and tell anyone how you claim to know. The fact is he shoved a linesman after skating in a straight line from the top of the face-off circle with his head up and after slamming his stick on the ice in what appears to be frustration. And it isn't like he just skated into Henderson. He shoved him. He made the deliberate act of shoving him.
And he should be getting a bad rap for what he did. Watching the entirety of the replay shows it looks like anything but an accident. I don't see how there is a valid argument otherwise.
And neither do you. What possible reason would he have for attacking a linesman?
Quote from: theaardvark on January 29, 2016, 11:56:15 PM
And neither do you. What possible reason would he have for attacking a linesman?
Anger over a non-call definitely seems plausible. :-\
Quote from: Nic16 on January 30, 2016, 12:46:10 AM
Anger over a non-call definitely seems plausible. :-\
Well, then he must have been concussed, because linesmen can call penalties...
Quote from: theaardvark on January 29, 2016, 11:56:15 PM
And neither do you. What possible reason would he have for attacking a linesman?
I never claimed I did, did I? You did.
I watched the replay and gave my opinion based on it. He appears to shove the linesman for no particular reason. It looks intentional to me. I don't know what motivated him and I never opined on that at all.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 30, 2016, 02:01:14 AM
Well, then he must have been concussed, because linesmen can call penalties...
That isn't quite accurate, actually.
Linesmen can call to many men at least.
I dunno but McJesus put on a show
Quote from: Jersey on February 03, 2016, 02:23:04 PM
I dunno but McJesus put on a show
He might end up costing the Oilers their first overall draft pick.
Wideman suspended 20 games.
Glad to see the NHL got it right!
Quote from: Nic16 on February 03, 2016, 05:56:56 PM
Wideman suspended 20 games.
Glad to see the NHL got it right!
No surprise there. Intentional or not (it's really not relevant), he shoved a linesman. That'll always end badly for the player.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 03, 2016, 08:26:52 PM
No surprise there. Intentional or not (it's really not relevant), he shoved a linesman. That'll always end badly for the player.
An appeal is expected so it's very likely the NHL started high knowing there is a possibility of having to shave off 5 games.
Quote from: Nic16 on February 03, 2016, 09:55:45 PM
An appeal is expected so it's very likely the NHL started high knowing there is a possibility of having to shave off 5 games.
Quote40.2 Automatic Suspension
Category I
Any player who deliberately strikes an official and causes injury or who deliberately applies physical force in any manner against an official with intent to injure, or who in any manner attempts to injure an official shall be automatically suspended for not less than twenty (20) games. (For the purpose ofthe rule, ?intent to injure? shall mean any physical force which a player knew or should have known could reasonably be expected to cause injury.
Good luck with that.
Quote from: Colton on February 03, 2016, 10:04:17 PM
Good luck with that.
I agree he is up against it, and I think it was "deliberate"...however, that could still be argued to an appeal board.
Lots of $$ at play here, and Wideman does have a few things on his side, so he would be foolish not to give an appeal a shot.
NHLPA is filing an appeal...
http://www.matchsticksandgasoline.com/2016/2/3/10910620/breaking-nhlpa-to-appeal-dennis-widemans-suspension (http://www.matchsticksandgasoline.com/2016/2/3/10910620/breaking-nhlpa-to-appeal-dennis-widemans-suspension)
Quote from: Nic16 on February 04, 2016, 02:21:20 AM
NHLPA is filing an appeal...
http://www.matchsticksandgasoline.com/2016/2/3/10910620/breaking-nhlpa-to-appeal-dennis-widemans-suspension (http://www.matchsticksandgasoline.com/2016/2/3/10910620/breaking-nhlpa-to-appeal-dennis-widemans-suspension)
Interesting (but not surprising) that the union disagrees "with the League's decision to suspend" and not the length of the suspension. I realize that it's their job to defend their guy, but let's be realistic here.
Quote from: Stretch on February 03, 2016, 04:52:00 PM
He might end up costing the Oilers their first overall draft pick.
Firstly we are after a playoff birth.
Don't worry he will help Jets EARN a first overall pick ;)
Quote from: Jersey on February 05, 2016, 03:53:51 PM
Firstly we are after a playoff birth.
Don't worry he will help Jets EARN a first overall pick ;)
oilers will have better odds though!😉
Ah we will WIN the draft even being in playoffs spot ;)
2 outta 4 years we won 1st overall :not even needing to be last ;)
Quote from: Jersey on February 05, 2016, 03:53:51 PM
Firstly we are after a playoff birth.
Don't worry he will help Jets EARN a first overall pick ;)
I can't see the Oilers finishing better than last in the Pacific. They'll be getting another top end draft pick this summer, hopefully along with the Jets.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 08, 2016, 01:27:28 PM
I can't see the Oilers finishing better than last in the Pacific. They'll be getting another top end draft pick this summer, hopefully along with the Jets.
you know what? Its fing embarrassing already! How cna you look so strong and then killed so strong. #OnlyOilersHockey
Better win some games very soon! I want Thachuk!!! But I know Jets fans want him too.
Quote from: Jersey on February 09, 2016, 09:04:10 PM
you know what? Its fing embarrassing already! How cna you look so strong and then killed so strong. #OnlyOilersHockey
Better win some games very soon! I want Thachuk!!! But I know Jets fans want him too.
Tkachuk? Theres 4, arguably 5 players available this year better than Tkachuk. If I'm in the basement of the league over halfway through the season Tkachuk isn't who I want.
what a wacky trade between Senators & the Leafs ........ happy for Dion P., in getting out of Leaf land ........... he may desire to be back there in maybe 3 years.
Expect us to land out of the Top 5 unless Chevy moves up or the Jets really tank (which I do not expect)....... so Tkachuk will probably not be available IMO.
Quote from: Colton on February 09, 2016, 09:07:34 PM
Tkachuk? Theres 4, arguably 5 players available this year better than Tkachuk. If I'm in the basement of the league over halfway through the season Tkachuk isn't who I want.
Tkachuk is ranked 4th over all what are you talking about.
Quote from: Jersey on February 09, 2016, 10:16:29 PM
Tkachuk is ranked 4th over all what are you talking about.
So was Raffi Torres.
Matthews, Puljujarvi, Laine, Chychrun, Nylander are all better choices than Tkachuk. If my team was drafting and Tkachuk was the BPA I'd trade down.
Quote from: Colton on February 09, 2016, 11:47:26 PM
So was Raffi Torres.
Matthews, Puljujarvi, Laine, Chychrun, Nylander are all better choices than Tkachuk. If my team was drafting and Tkachuk was the BPA I'd trade down.
But if the Jets get the fifth overall pick, I don't think anyone would be upset about Tkachuk getting taken. Same goes for the Oilers or whatever team were to draft him.
Colton ........ any strong reasons you have, that would enlighten us, why you feel Tkachuk would be a bad choice
personally I am not on top of what makes Nylander a better choice, as an example
Agreed Nylander no thx. Rather have north American power forward.
Colton maybe you would choose others, fine. But that doesn't mean you're right either.
Nazem Kadri in hot water again:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-reviewing-kadri-s-throat-slashing-gesture-to-giordano-1.435889 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-reviewing-kadri-s-throat-slashing-gesture-to-giordano-1.435889)
This kid is a loser.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 10, 2016, 03:18:48 PM
Nazem Kadri in hot water again:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-reviewing-kadri-s-throat-slashing-gesture-to-giordano-1.435889 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-reviewing-kadri-s-throat-slashing-gesture-to-giordano-1.435889)
This kid is a loser.
And the kid Toronto is building around... lovely.
Quote from: Jersey on February 10, 2016, 12:19:53 PM
Agreed Nylander no thx. Rather have north American power forward.
Colton maybe you would choose others, fine. But that doesn't mean you're right either.
Lol, I bet you would have taken Virtanen over Ehlers/Nylander as well.
I'm honestly all for North American over euros OFFENSIVELY anywho
Quote from: Jersey on February 10, 2016, 06:26:51 PM
I'm honestly all for North American over euros OFFENSIVELY anywho
That's pretty short-sighted.
Quote from: Jersey on February 10, 2016, 06:26:51 PM
I'm honestly all for North American over euros OFFENSIVELY anywho
A reading from the Book of Cherry. ;)
Quote from: Jersey on February 10, 2016, 06:26:51 PM
I'm honestly all for North American over euros OFFENSIVELY anywho
For what reason? Half of the top scorers in the league (2 of Top 5, 4 of Top 10, 9 of Top 20) are not North American.
A breakdown from 2011/2012 showed 54.286% of players were Canadian, while 20.952% were American. If over 75% of the players in the league are North American and almost 50% of the top scorers are not, statistically, you're more likely to find a top scorer going with a non-North American player (Ignoring a million other factors, point is that kind of viewpoint seems absurd).
Quote from: Colton on February 10, 2016, 08:38:21 PM
For what reason? Half of the top scorers in the league (2 of Top 5, 4 of Top 10, 9 of Top 20) are not North American.
A breakdown from 2011/2012 showed 54.286% of players were Canadian, while 20.952% were American. If over 75% of the players in the league are North American and almost 50% of the top scorers are not, statistically, you're more likely to find a top scorer going with a non-North American player (Ignoring a million other factors, point is that kind of viewpoint seems absurd).
It's absolutely ridiculous.
Ovechkin, Tarasenko, Malkin, Kuznetsov, Panarin, Kopitar, Voracek. That's some serious offensive skill coming out of Europe.
Kadri fined $5K for dirtbag gesture:
http://www.tsn.ca/maple-leafs-kadri-fined-5k-for-gesture-1.436546 (http://www.tsn.ca/maple-leafs-kadri-fined-5k-for-gesture-1.436546)
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The National Hockey League has fined Toronto Maple Leafs forward Nazem Kadri $5,000 for a throat-slashing gesture towards Calgary Flames defenceman Mark Giordano.
Best of all? It was a hard, clean hit. Kadri just got upset because he was on the receiving end and couldn't handle it.
randy turner @randyturner15 now48 seconds ago
BREAKING: Scientists discover gravitational waves based on collision between 2 black holes. In related story, the Leafs play Oilers tonite.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 11, 2016, 05:44:25 PM
Kadri fined $5K for dirtbag gesture:
http://www.tsn.ca/maple-leafs-kadri-fined-5k-for-gesture-1.436546 (http://www.tsn.ca/maple-leafs-kadri-fined-5k-for-gesture-1.436546)
Best of all? It was a hard, clean hit. Kadri just got upset because he was on the receiving end and couldn't handle it.
Best of all? It lead to these hilarious attempts at revenge
https://gfycat.com/EntireTediousHarborporpoise
https://gfycat.com/ShyDangerousIchneumonfly
good find Colton ........ Giordano schooled Kadri
Quote from: Colton on February 10, 2016, 08:38:21 PM
For what reason? Half of the top scorers in the league (2 of Top 5, 4 of Top 10, 9 of Top 20) are not North American.
A breakdown from 2011/2012 showed 54.286% of players were Canadian, while 20.952% were American. If over 75% of the players in the league are North American and almost 50% of the top scorers are not, statistically, you're more likely to find a top scorer going with a non-North American player (Ignoring a million other factors, point is that kind of viewpoint seems absurd).
Some of my FAVORITE all time players are euros
Pavel Bure and Teemu Selanne
I said I'D rather take a north American player. I'm talking for thy oilers they need a power forward type. A physical presence. Very few euros are physical presence.
Yakupov is biggest buse in a long time. Anybody want him we just want 1 pylon in return
Quote from: Colton on February 11, 2016, 09:14:27 PM
Best of all? It lead to these hilarious attempts at revenge
https://gfycat.com/EntireTediousHarborporpoise
https://gfycat.com/ShyDangerousIchneumonfly
The kid's garbage. And I'm baffled he didn't get a game.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 12, 2016, 04:24:43 PM
The kid's garbage. And I'm baffled he didn't get a game.
meh, it was just a gesture. I don't like the guy as much as you all. But it's really not that big a deal, it's more the society we live in today. 10 years ago he would have got nothing for the throat slashing.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 12, 2016, 04:58:35 PM
meh, it was just a gesture. I don't like the guy as much as you all. But it's really not that big a deal, it's more the society we live in today. 10 years ago he would have got nothing for the throat slashing.
For me, it was the fact he made the gesture and then said "you're dead" repeatedly. It's classless and immature, IMO, and there's no need for that kind of behaviour in pro sports. Especially over a nice, clean hit.
He did the same thing in 2010 while part of Team Canada at the World Juniors.
Quote from: Jersey on February 12, 2016, 11:30:07 AM
Some of my FAVORITE all time players are euros
Pavel Bure and Teemu Selanne
I said I'D rather take a north American player. I'm talking for thy oilers they need a power forward type. A physical presence. Very few euros are physical presence.
Plenty of All-Star Europeans are a physical presence, let alone any European skater. What are you talking about?
lol.
again I never said there is none, but there is not a lot out there throwing body around or being a power forward. I know you like to be right 100% of the time and you will argue it until the other person gives up and trust me I give up. LOL.
My 2 cents...
I see what Jersey is saying. You need to mix it up.
Both sides bring skill IMO. I dont think one side is better then the other.
That said... i bet growing up playing hockey on this side of the pond is a tougher style game.
Quote from: Jersey on February 12, 2016, 09:26:02 PM
lol.
again I never said there is none, but there is not a lot out there throwing body around or being a power forward. I know you like to be right 100% of the time and you will argue it until the other person gives up and trust me I give up. LOL.
Man don't say something incredibly stupid and then try to back off of it.
Wild fire Yeo, 1-11-2 in the last 14...
Winnipeg to host outdoor NHL game at IGF
The wait for the Winnipeg Jets to host an NHL game outdoors is over, according to a report issued Saturday evening.
Sportsnet?s John Shannon first spilled the news over Twitter, announcing a game between the Jets and Edmonton Oilers to be played at Investors Group Field sometime in October of next season.
Outdoor game in Winnipeg will take place in late October. Looking like Oilers vs Jets.
? John Shannon (@JSportsnet) February 13, 2016
The idea of hosting an outdoor game in the prairie province isn?t a new one; the NHL and the Jets had been in talks with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, the city?s CFL team and residents of the stadium, about plans to have the game this season but were stalled for a number of reasons, including the fact Winnipeg was hosting the Grey Cup.
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman has not been shy about the idea, publicly admitting he felt the NHL owed Winnipeg an outdoor game, and Jets co-owner Mark Chipman hinted last month at a local sports dinner that an announcement of an outdoor game would be coming soon.
An official date has yet to be determined.
I hope it's Oilers. Everyone been texting me. Us Oil fan's will be there! Already oilers msg board has ppl saying road trip. This will be huuuuge game n money maker for Winnipeg.
I'll be cheering Jets alumni though. Those are my Jets. Seeing selanne Tkachuk essensa Khabibulin zhamnov Steen howerchuk etc... wouldn't that be pretty cool
Quote from: Jersey on February 14, 2016, 12:09:35 AM
I hope it's Oilers. Everyone been texting me. Us Oil fan's will be there! Already oilers msg board has ppl saying road trip. This will be huuuuge game n money maker for Winnipeg.
I'll be cheering Jets alumni though. Those are my Jets. Seeing selanne Tkachuk essensa Khabibulin zhamnov Steen howerchuk etc... wouldn't that be pretty cool
ya it'll be good to see McDavid outdoors at IGF
Quote from: theaardvark on February 13, 2016, 11:45:19 PM
Wild fire Yeo, 1-11-2 in the last 14...
Something had to be done. The Wild have won all of three games since the new year and have accumulated just 9 points.
I think Fletcher should go with Yeo.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 14, 2016, 01:43:40 AM
Something had to be done. The Wild have won all of three games since the new year and have accumulated just 9 points.
I think Fletcher should go with Yeo.
I agree
From what ive heard they have nothing in their system either. Thats not good when you suck and you got nothing coming up.
Fletcher sould go to.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 15, 2016, 04:53:16 AM
I agree
From what ive heard they have nothing in their system either. Thats not good when you suck and you got nothing coming up.
Fletcher sould go to.
Mathew Dumba was their last solid draft pick of not. Nearly four years ago. :-\
Mike Harrington@BNHarrington
Kane out for Ottawa. Broke team rule and missed practice. Bylsma clearly annoyed. #Sabres
At least he didn't show up in a tracksuit....
Quote from: theaardvark on February 15, 2016, 04:46:40 PM
Mike Harrington@BNHarrington
Kane out for Ottawa. Broke team rule and missed practice. Bylsma clearly annoyed. #Sabres
At least he didn't show up in a tracksuit....
I'm still so, so glad the Jets were able to get rid of this kid.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 15, 2016, 04:46:40 PM
Mike Harrington@BNHarrington
Kane out for Ottawa. Broke team rule and missed practice. Bylsma clearly annoyed. #Sabres
At least he didn't show up in a tracksuit....
LOL would really like to know what he did now?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 15, 2016, 05:42:53 PM
LOL would really like to know what he did now?
He went to the NBA allstar game.
Guys a complete moron.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 15, 2016, 05:42:53 PM
LOL would really like to know what he did now?
Apparently, he got absolutely smashed and partied like a maniac. And posted it on social media (it's been since removed).
The best part is seeing Sabres fanboys run to his defense and then proceed to take shots at Myers, Stafford, and the Jets.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 15, 2016, 06:10:21 PM
Apparently, he got absolutely smashed and partied like a maniac. And posted it on social media (it's been since removed).
The best part is seeing Sabres fanboys run to his defense and then proceed to take shots at Myers, Stafford, and the Jets.
Beauty of the internet, it never gets deleted...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbRiMRjUUAAIjQh.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbRiMRhUEAAFoY3.jpg)
Yikes. :-\
Anyway, back to hockey:
http://www.tsn.ca/lightning-won-t-trade-stamkos-this-season-1.438299 (http://www.tsn.ca/lightning-won-t-trade-stamkos-this-season-1.438299)
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Steven Stamkos isn't going anywhere.
At least not until July 1, anyway.
Tampa Bay Lightning general manager Steve Yzerman issued a strong statement on Monday saying that his captain will not be traded in the next two weeks, squashing any chatter or rumour to the contrary.
"As February 29th approaches, I am stating today that Steven Stamkos will not be traded before the NHL's trade deadline," Yzerman said via press release. "I have said repeatedly that it is our hope to reach an agreement with Steven on a new contract at some point, and with 27 games remaining in the season, our entire organization, Steven included, wants to focus on making the playoffs. I will keep the negotiating process strictly between the involved parties and have no further comment on the state of those negotiations."
This should be interesting. Watch Stamkos walk on July 1. :D
Kane admitted for responsibility. Lol
Good Job Evander good job.
On to the next F up
He's like a tamer version of Johnny Manziel. Or is he?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 15, 2016, 07:35:17 PM
Yikes. :-\
Anyway, back to hockey:
http://www.tsn.ca/lightning-won-t-trade-stamkos-this-season-1.438299 (http://www.tsn.ca/lightning-won-t-trade-stamkos-this-season-1.438299)
This should be interesting. Watch Stamkos walk on July 1. :D
Empty statement for Yzerman to make. If the right deal comes along the Lightning will trade him. Letting him go as UFA in July? Can't imagine it. Have too believe Stevie Y. is smarter than that ???
Quote from: JMT21 on February 17, 2016, 02:39:32 PM
Empty statement for Yzerman to make. If the right deal comes along the Lightning will trade him. Letting him go as UFA in July? Can't imagine it. Have too believe Stevie Y. is smarter than that ???
or is he?
Flame G Ramo done for season:
http://www.tsn.ca/flames-g-ramo-tears-acl-ending-season-1.439284 (http://www.tsn.ca/flames-g-ramo-tears-acl-ending-season-1.439284)
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Karri Ramo's season is over due to a torn ACL.
The Calgary Flames announced the injury to their starting goaltender on Wednesday. He was injured in the third period of the Flames' 6-5 win over the San Jose Sharks on Feb. 11.
Chevy ..... trade Pav to the Flames
TSN announced that Bettman upheld the 20 game suspension of Wideman
I'm wondering is it coincidence that Stevie has these issues with Stamkos and Drouin at the same time? Kinda fishy there.
Quote from: Jockitch on February 17, 2016, 08:52:16 PM
Chevy ..... trade Pav to the Flames
there get it done!!
NHL upholds Wideman's 20-game suspension:
http://www.tsn.ca/bettman-upholds-wideman-s-suspension-1.439445 (http://www.tsn.ca/bettman-upholds-wideman-s-suspension-1.439445)
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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman upheld a 20-game suspension to Calgary Flames defenceman Dennis Wideman for physical abuse of an official in a detailed, 23-page decision released on Wednesday.
The NHLPA announced Wednesday evening that Wideman will appeal Bettman?s decision to a neutral arbitrator, an avenue that has never been broached under the three-year-old CBA.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 18, 2016, 04:23:27 PM
NHL upholds Wideman's 20-game suspension:
http://www.tsn.ca/bettman-upholds-wideman-s-suspension-1.439445 (http://www.tsn.ca/bettman-upholds-wideman-s-suspension-1.439445)
he should have got more than 20 games! Inexcusable. And his text to a teammate afterwards shows how much of a twit this guy really is.
The texts show his frustration at being persecuted relentlessly for something he considers an accident. Its not like he went out, got drunk, and killed someone with his car. He got concussed, and skating back to the bench ran into a linesman. The fact that he was not sent to the quiet room afterwards and allowed to return to the ice is on the NHL, does not suggest that he was not suffering concussion symptoms, only that he is a hockey player who wants to play, and unless you tie him to the bench or he has a broken limb, he goes over when his name is called.
I'd be frustrated too.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 18, 2016, 07:00:16 PM
The texts show his frustration at being persecuted relentlessly for something he considers an accident. Its not like he went out, got drunk, and killed someone with his car. He got concussed, and skating back to the bench ran into a linesman. The fact that he was not sent to the quiet room afterwards and allowed to return to the ice is on the NHL, does not suggest that he was not suffering concussion symptoms, only that he is a hockey player who wants to play, and unless you tie him to the bench or he has a broken limb, he goes over when his name is called.
I'd be frustrated too.
Even though it didn't look like an accident at all. ::)
Watch the replay. He intentionally shoves the linesman while skating back to the bench. His being sent to the quiet room has no significance at that point. And that isn't on the NHL, anyway. It's on his team and his head coach who decided not to send him there after he made his way to the bench.
As for the text shown in the article:
"(T)he only problem and the only reason I'm here is cause the stupid refs and stupid media."What a childish thing to say. He's a professional athlete and instead of taking responsibility for his actions, he whines to a teammate about his persecution complex.
And if you don't see the danger in what he did, I really question your understanding of hockey. Of course it's not the same as killing someone while drunk driving (quite an extreme stretch for a comparison, BTW), but shoving anyone from behind near the boards is stupid, disrespectful, and irresponsible. And it's a good thing the linesman didn't sustain serious injuries as it could've been much worse.
Why you continue to make excuses for Wideman and jump to his defense is quite baffling.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 18, 2016, 07:00:16 PM
The texts show his frustration at being persecuted relentlessly for something he considers an accident. Its not like he went out, got drunk, and killed someone with his car. He got concussed, and skating back to the bench ran into a linesman. The fact that he was not sent to the quiet room afterwards and allowed to return to the ice is on the NHL, does not suggest that he was not suffering concussion symptoms, only that he is a hockey player who wants to play, and unless you tie him to the bench or he has a broken limb, he goes over when his name is called.
I'd be frustrated too.
now you know how most of us feel about you when discussing bombers, lol. "I was concussed officer!"
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 18, 2016, 07:33:12 PM
now you know how most of us feel about you when discussing bombers, lol. "I was concussed officer!"
LOL
Thats funny man.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 18, 2016, 07:33:12 PM
now you know how most of us feel about you when discussing bombers, lol. "I was concussed officer!"
LOL :D
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/757/858/8f5.jpg)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 18, 2016, 07:19:10 PM
Even though it didn't look like an accident at all. ::)
Watch the replay. He intentionally shoves the linesman while skating back to the bench. His being sent to the quiet room has no significance at that point. And that isn't on the NHL, anyway. It's on his team and his head coach who decided not to send him there after he made his way to the bench.
As for the text shown in the article: "(T)he only problem and the only reason I'm here is cause the stupid refs and stupid media."
What a childish thing to say. He's a professional athlete and instead of taking responsibility for his actions, he whines to a teammate about his persecution complex.
And if you don't see the danger in what he did, I really question your understanding of hockey. Of course it's not the same as killing someone while drunk driving (quite an extreme stretch for a comparison, BTW), but shoving anyone from behind near the boards is stupid, disrespectful, and irresponsible. And it's a good thing the linesman didn't sustain serious injuries as it could've been much worse.
Why you continue to make excuses for Wideman and jump to his defense is quite baffling.
He looked very concussed to me, he seemed caught off guard by the linesman backing into his line to the bench, last second raised his arms to fend off the encroaching body. The linesman ran into him as much as he ran into the linesman. And, if this were an MPI claim, the linesman gets assessed 100% responsibility. Why wasn't he watching where he was going? Wideman had an established lane to the bench.
And yes, the NHL is supposed to have concussion spotters that call for a quiet room visit. When told to do so, I'm not sure if a conscious NHL player would willingly go.
I grant the 10 game might be warranted, no intent. But I can understand Wideman and the NHLPA's contention that this was an accident, warranting no disciplinary action. Which is why they did not appeal for a reduction in the number of games, but the action in its entirety.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 18, 2016, 07:55:35 PM
He looked very concussed to me, he seemed caught off guard by the linesman backing into his line to the bench, last second raised his arms to fend off the encroaching body. The linesman ran into him as much as he ran into the linesman. And, if this were an MPI claim, the linesman gets assessed 100% responsibility. Why wasn't he watching where he was going? Wideman had an established lane to the bench.
And yes, the NHL is supposed to have concussion spotters that call for a quiet room visit. When told to do so, I'm not sure if a conscious NHL player would willingly go.
I grant the 10 game might be warranted, no intent. But I can understand Wideman and the NHLPA's contention that this was an accident, warranting no disciplinary action. Which is why they did not appeal for a reduction in the number of games, but the action in its entirety.
LOL :D
Wow, Aardsy. Wow. :D
I'll be sure to ignore anything you have to say on the subject of hockey anymore. That bolded portion is hands down one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 18, 2016, 08:01:53 PM
LOL :D
Wow, Aardsy. Wow. :D
I'll be sure to ignore anything you have to say on the subject of hockey anymore. That bolded portion is hands down one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
What are you laughing at. MPI would agree with Wideman.
MPI!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 18, 2016, 08:01:53 PM
LOL :D
Wow, Aardsy. Wow. :D
I'll be sure to ignore anything you have to say on the subject of hockey anymore. That bolded portion is hands down one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
Gotta say im thinking the same thing.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 18, 2016, 07:55:35 PM
He looked very concussed to me, he seemed caught off guard by the linesman backing into his line to the bench, last second raised his arms to fend off the encroaching body. The linesman ran into him as much as he ran into the linesman. And, if this were an MPI claim, the linesman gets assessed 100% responsibility. Why wasn't he watching where he was going? Wideman had an established lane to the bench.
And yes, the NHL is supposed to have concussion spotters that call for a quiet room visit. When told to do so, I'm not sure if a conscious NHL player would willingly go.
I grant the 10 game might be warranted, no intent. But I can understand Wideman and the NHLPA's contention that this was an accident, warranting no disciplinary action. Which is why they did not appeal for a reduction in the number of games, but the action in its entirety.
Holy Moly... The play is still going. Why wasent the ref watching where he was going? Really? Hes skating backwards in his lane doing his job watching the play. The second the player raised his stick to signal hes coming off its his job to get off the ice and avoid the play.
The player at no point has or is any position to " established a lane ". He at no time trys to avoid the play. He actually steps aside and levels the ref.
It is a bit of a freak play because hes got nowhere to go at that time but i will say he seen the play changing direction and coming back at him but he does nothing to avoid it. Now if he didnt raise his stick to signal hes coming off and just made a B line for the bench i might have a different view of the situation. But it looks pretty clear he new what he was doing. He skated right into it and i agree with blue_gold_84.... Hes lucky that ref wasent hurt.
I think its a good 20 games.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 18, 2016, 07:55:35 PM
He looked very concussed to me, he seemed caught off guard by the linesman backing into his line to the bench, last second raised his arms to fend off the encroaching body. The linesman ran into him as much as he ran into the linesman. And, if this were an MPI claim, the linesman gets assessed 100% responsibility. Why wasn't he watching where he was going? Wideman had an established lane to the bench.
And yes, the NHL is supposed to have concussion spotters that call for a quiet room visit. When told to do so, I'm not sure if a conscious NHL player would willingly go.
I grant the 10 game might be warranted, no intent. But I can understand Wideman and the NHLPA's contention that this was an accident, warranting no disciplinary action. Which is why they did not appeal for a reduction in the number of games, but the action in its entirety.
sorry dude there is seriously something wrong with you. You just don't seem to have a grasp on reality.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 18, 2016, 09:29:32 PM
Holy Moly... The play is still going. Why wasent the ref watching where he was going? Really? Hes skating backwards in his lane doing his job watching the play. The second the player raised his stick to signal hes coming off its his job to get off the ice and avoid the play.
The player at no point has or is any position to " established a lane ". He at no time trys to avoid the play. He actually steps aside and levels the ref.
It is a bit of a freak play because hes got nowhere to go at that time but i will say he seen the play changing direction and coming back at him but he does nothing to avoid it. Now if he didnt raise his stick to signal hes coming off and just made a B line for the bench i might have a different view of the situation. But it looks pretty clear he new what he was doing. He skated right into it and i agree with blue_gold_84.... Hes lucky that ref wasent hurt.
I think its a good 20 games.
He was injured. He suffered a concussion and hasn't worked since the incident.
I believe Wideman was concussed as well but he never brings that up as a reason for why he made that cross check.
And apparently the NHLPA wanted there to be NO suspension and nothing on his record. Wow.
Quote from: Colton on February 19, 2016, 03:22:01 AM
He was injured. He suffered a concussion and hasn't worked since the incident.
That sucks.
Wish him well
I watched this one over and over. I usually never agree with much that Bettman purports, however this one is clearcut. The player is guilty. Brutal behaviour and EXTRA stupid. These shenanigans are exactly why the NHL will never, ever hit the popularity enjoyed by the NBA and NFL with our neighbours to the south. My 0.02.
The Jets should send a tape on the hit on Little against Tampa. The league spends millions and millions on lawyers fighting concussion issues and they don't even give a penalty for a player in a vulnerable position and the Tampa Player goes for a head shot on Little. The refs don't have a clue and there is 4 of them on the ice..
Little was off balance, had his head down, then was clobbered by Stralman. The ref's (Joe Cooper's) response was that "Stralhman's not a dirty player." Which has nothing to do with the incident, and in fact reveals his prejudgement of the situation.
This is an incompetent ref.
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Knee on knee on Ehlers, and then decapitation on Little, and no penalty. If he gets a pass as it being accidental because he's not a dirty player, that just confirms that the league has an officiating problem and double standards.
Both tapes should go in, as well as the tape of the laughing zebra. o way he should stare down Maurice, skate away. This isn't baseball. And you, sir, just endorsed the injury of two Jets with your non call. You should have been embarrassed to face Maurice. You can bet the refs saw the replays between periods, he should have gone over to Maurice and said, "Hey, sorry, I missed that one". Instead, he arrogantly baited Maurice. This game is not about the refs, its about the game.
The Islanders' relationship with Barclays Center has been on such thin ice during the club's first season in Brooklyn that both sides are secretly exploring ways to cut ties or modify the existing terms of their lease, The Post has learned.
The Islanders were losing roughly $20 million annually playing at the antiquated Nassau Coliseum - their home for 43 years - when owner Charles Wang in 2012 cut a 25-year lease deal with Barclays Center to have the team move there beginning this season. The lease includes a little-known out clause that kicks in after the fourth season that both sides could take advantage of, sources said.
http://nypost.com/2016/02/19/islanders-barclays-eye-escape-clause-to-get-team-out-of-brooklyn/
What a debacle for the Brooklyn Islanders.
Islanders just are a debacle franchise. Really no one really wants them. New York really only needs 2 teams. Not 3 for crying out loud.
They have been losing money along time. the attendance at most teams in the states look way down. There must have been only a few thousand at the Carolina game. More empty seats , usually the cameras don't show the upper decks where there is nobody but when the lower bowls are empty. :'for some reason fans aren't showing up .
Quote from: Buckzumhoff on February 20, 2016, 05:07:36 PM
They have been losing money along time. the attendance at most teams in the states look way down. There must have been only a few thousand at the Carolina game. More empty seats , usually the cameras don't show the upper decks where there is nobody but when the lower bowls are empty. :'for some reason fans aren't showing up .
I don't get how so many of these teams survive. Let's play a game and list these teams off Panthers, Lightning, Hurricanes, Devils, Islanders, Coyotes, Ducks, Avalanche, Blue Jackets, Stars (does anyone go to Star games?), Sharks. Am I missing any?
Guess these rich owners need great write offs for there massive incomes is the only reason I can think of.
It's seriously such a shame to see teams like the Panthers and Stars enjoy considerable success this season, and fans there can't even show up to sell out games.
Last night was particularly absurd. Jagr sets a league record in a pitifully empty arena... Just sad.
islanders Rangers Philadelphia all get big tv market money and they don't need people in the stands. Islanders make enough on tv to run the team. They don't lose money the NHL looks after the U.S. teams, thinking a lot of people are at home watching when hockey ranks 40th in sports in the states behind bowling. That's why Rogers took over and now rates have gone up , less hockey on tv but the tv bill went up.
I'm pretty sure Rogers got the current contract for Canadian broadcasting in Canada because it outbid TSN. That has nothing to do with viewership or attendance figures in the US.
And how is there less hockey on TV in Canada now?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 21, 2016, 09:48:49 PM
I'm pretty sure Rogers got the current contract for Canadian broadcasting in Canada because it outbid TSN. That has nothing to do with viewership or attendance figured in the US.
And how is there less hockey on TV in Canada now?
Correct
Stephen Whyno @SWhyno
#Blackhawks announce Marcus Kruger will change number from 16 to 22 to allow newcomer Andrew Ladd to wear 16.
I guess this belongs here, now that he's no longer a Jet for the season...
Quote from: theaardvark on February 26, 2016, 09:14:08 PM
Stephen Whyno @SWhyno
#Blackhawks announce Marcus Kruger will change number from 16 to 22 to allow newcomer Andrew Ladd to wear 16.
I guess this belongs here, now that he's no longer a Jet for the season...
correct
From the TSN website:
The Montreal Canadiens have traded forwards Dale Weise and Tomas Fleischmann to the Chicago Blackhawks for forward Phillip Danault and a second-round pick in 2018. According to TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie, the Canadiens retained 30 per cent of Weise and Fleischmann's salaries.
Blackhawks grabbed another good forward in Weise. Chicago is loaded for bear!
Also from TSN:
The Los Angeles Kings have traded defenceman Christian Ehrhoff to the Chicago Blackhawks for defenceman Rob Scuderi. Ehrhoff appeared in 40 games this season for the Kings, while Scuderi played 17 games with the Blackhawks.
Some shrewd moves by Bowman. All 3 pickups are UFA's, so no additions to the cap next fall.
Ladd will provide some key goals riding shotgun to Toews and Hossa.
Weise will supply some grit and chip in offensively from a bottom 6 spot.
Fleischman will likely spend more time watching than playing come playoff time, but he is a nice fill-in on the top 9 if an injury hits.
Chicago is sick.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 27, 2016, 01:38:19 PM
Chicago is sick.
Stacked the gills and ready for a serious playoff run.
Reimer & Morin sent from the Leafs to the Sharks ........ combined with the announcement that they will sit out Lupul & JVR for the year & also other earlier trades .....
...... the Leafs have set the Blue print for years to come, in how to dump an NHL lineup for the chase for the Best Draft position odds
Quote from: Nic16 on February 27, 2016, 04:41:10 AM
Some shrewd moves by Bowman. All 3 pickups are UFA's, so no additions to the cap next fall.
Ladd will provide some key goals riding shotgun to Toews and Hossa.
Weise will supply some grit and chip in offensively from a bottom 6 spot.
Fleischman will likely spend more time watching than playing come playoff time, but he is a nice fill-in on the top 9 if an injury hits.
sounds like the riders ala Taman's play. GoHawks Go!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 27, 2016, 11:05:41 PM
sounds like the riders ala Taman's play. GoHawks Go!
Hawks took out the Caps this afternoon 3 - 2. Ladd made his typical clearing pass backwards from the goalmouth, robbing the goalie of a chance to stop the play: which eventually wound up on Toews stick and its in. Ladds first point as a Hawk.
The functionality of that line is through the roof.
And so on.
If this has been said in an earlier post .... it than bares repeating
The Ducks are known to have depth in their Dmen. Boston meanwhile may not be signing Lou Erickson.
Anaheim could use LE's skills ...... therefore send a Sam Vatanen to Boston
Most boring trade deadline day ever... the guys on trade centre are bored to death... Prime Minister races, tshirt cannons.... yikes, this is sports programming?
Quote from: theaardvark on February 29, 2016, 05:21:22 PM
Most boring trade deadline day ever... the guys on trade centre are bored to death... Prime Minister races, tshirt cannons.... yikes, this is sports programming?
Agreed! The whole TRADE CENTRE thing has become a joke. Hyped up to nth degree season after season. The whole show should last 90 minutes - 2 hours max.
When did they start today? 7:00 am??? ::)
It's been like this for quite some time. And it isn't like TSN has much else to broadcast on a Monday, anyway.
randy turner @randyturner
At this point the insiders are just playing Clash of Clans on their phones. #TradeCentre
Trade Center! What a joke.
Last bunch of years things became different in the NHL and the way GMs do things. Chevy and a ton of GMs the last while have been saying they wont make trades just to trade ... it has to be a good hockey trade.
It seems we dont see many teams just swap players kinda thing. Most moves are done before the deadline and GMs are pretty set on prices for who ever before hand.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 29, 2016, 10:27:14 PM
Last bunch of years things became different in the NHL and the way GMs do things. Chevy and a ton of GMs the last while have been saying they wont make trades just to trade ... it has to be a good hockey trade.It seems we dont see many teams just swap players kinda thing. Most moves are done before the deadline and GMs are pretty set on prices for who ever before hand.
And.... rental player deals are suddenly labelled and spun as BLOCKBUSTER events, when in fact they are not. Not even a little. No real surprises.
Edit: I note that Stempniak went to Boston from NJ for a 2nd and a 4th... I like this player. He's getting "long in the tooth" at 33, and since 2001 has only played two full seasons - and when he did that showed that he could score ~ 24 goals or more.
Calgary picked up Niklas Backstrom and a 6th rounder for David Jones to Minnesota.
The Stempniak trade brought up an interesting point... the signing of a vet player to a one year deal can pay off more than just having him on the team...
Quote from: JMT21 on February 29, 2016, 05:25:30 PM
Agreed! The whole TRADE CENTRE thing has become a joke. Hyped up to nth degree season after season. The whole show should last 90 minutes - 2 hours max.
When did they start today? 7:00 am??? ::)
hahahaha this one time like 9 years ago i called in sick to work to watch "Trade Centre"......fell asleep quickly woke up around 11:30 am and there was only like 2 or 3 trades that i missed and no one good was traded. I vowed that I would never do that again. I fully agree that it should only be a 90 min- 2 hrs max....Like the final 2 hours of deadline day.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 02, 2016, 12:32:10 AM
The Stempniak trade brought up an interesting point... the signing of a vet player to a one year deal can pay off more than just having him on the team...
And he'll fit well on a team like the Bruins at this point in the season, much like he did last season on the Jets.
Over the past two seasons I feel like Stempniak deserves a shake at being a regular player on a team where he fits rather than just being a rental. Solid contributor with vet presence. In that sense he reminds me of Frolik. He would do well for a team that was in its developing stages and could being in a 3rd line roll, leading young players and offering some consistent scoring (no I do not mean the Jets lol).
Really liked having Lee for a few months last year and he has continued to be solid for NJ and is definitely good in for a playoff run with the Bruins.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 02, 2016, 03:58:40 PM
Over the past two seasons I feel like Stempniak deserves a shake at being a regular player on a team where he fits rather than just being a rental. Solid contributor with vet presence. In that sense he reminds me of Frolik. He would do well for a team that was in its developing stages and could being in a 3rd line roll, leading young players and offering some consistent scoring (no I do not mean the Jets lol).
Really liked having Lee for a few months last year and he has continued to be solid for NJ and is definitely good in for a playoff run with the Bruins.
i agree should have signed him this year for sure for a number of reasons. I sure would rather have him in the line up than Peluso!
Subban sure likes his spin-job escape moves. He really walks the line between absolutely-brilliant-le-premiere-etoile and goat-man-dans-le-trou.
Quote from: Old Rusty on March 06, 2016, 04:56:40 AM
Subban sure likes his spin-job escape moves. He really walks the line between absolutely-brilliant-le-premiere-etoile and goat-man-dans-le-trou.
glad he's not on our team. You'll never wins cup with a guy like that playing 30mins a game for ya.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 06, 2016, 02:23:43 PM
glad he's not on our team. You'll never wins cup with a guy like that playing 30mins a game for ya.
The crazy thing is that if he could control his play - bring out that cannon of a shot when needed - forget the dipsy doodling and just go back to basics while still using his incredible skating ability - the guy would be a Norris shoo-in almost every year.
Quote from: Old Rusty on March 08, 2016, 03:57:58 PM
The crazy thing is that if he could control his play - bring out that cannon of a shot when needed - forget the dipsy doodling and just go back to basics while still using his incredible skating ability - the guy would be a Norris shoo-in almost every year.
Saw Buff do the spinarama that Suban got burned on last game and held my breath...
Quote from: theaardvark on March 08, 2016, 04:16:35 PM
Saw Buff do the spinarama that Suban got burned on last game and held my breath...
;D Buff used to cough those up too, not so much this season.
Wideman's appeal successful, suspension reduced to ten games:
http://www.tsn.ca/wideman-s-suspension-reduced-to-10-games-1.451884 (http://www.tsn.ca/wideman-s-suspension-reduced-to-10-games-1.451884)
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Dennis Wideman's 20-game suspension was reduced to 10 games by neutral discipline arbitrator James C. Oldham Friday. Wideman has already served 19 games of the suspension.
While the Flames defenceman can't get back the nine extra games he's missed, he will get back half of the $564,516 he was slated to lose.
Oldham: "Wideman did not, in my opinion, 'deliberately strike' Henderson." Reasoning: Absent intent, allowed for 10-game ban under Rule 40.3
- Frank Seravalli (@frank_seravalli) March 11, 2016
The league released a statement shortly after saying they disagreed with the decision.
"We strenuously disagree with the Arbitrator's ruling and are reviewing the Opinion in detail to determine what next steps may be appropriate."
Wideman was suspended in early February for conduct violative of Rule 40 (Physical Abuse of Officials). Wideman skated into a referee and knocked him down while making his way back to the bench in a game January 27.
The NHLPA filed an appeal on Wideman's behalf after that ruling, claiming the veteran defenceman was unintentional and accidental.
So, after serving 19 games, he gets it reduced to 10... does that mean the Flames have to pay him for those 9 games? I guess it goes back to him instead of the benevolent fund, the fFlames were still paying it out.
Does he get to bank the "time served"? Just in case he gets suspended again?
"Hey, I'm owed 9 games..."
From what I had heard weeks ago .......... any reduction from 20 games gives him $$ back for those games, as if he played.
This is a joke of a decision. As a former hockey official myself and the blatantly obvious evidence regardless of the "grade" of his concussion this decision continues the slippery slope the NHL is headed in.
Wideman deserved every bit of those 19 games he served. I as well am very curious to see what happens now that he has served 19 games and charged with only 10?
I guess if he nails another official after being concussed he'll only get an 11 game suspension more or less.
And now we get to listen to Brian Burke go on another one of his mad Irishman rants with his stupid slicked hair and raunchy purposeful undone tie. Lame to say the least!
NHL got this one right arbitrator is an idiot.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 11, 2016, 10:15:37 PM
This is a joke of a decision. As a former hockey official myself and the blatantly obvious evidence regardless of the "grade" of his concussion this decision continues the slippery slope the NHL continues to head in.
Wideman deserved very bit of those 19 games he served. I as well am very curious to see what happens now that he has served 19 games and charged with only 10?
I guess if he nails another official after being concussed he'll only get an 11 game suspension more or less.
And now we get to listen to Brian Burke go on another one of his mad Irishman rants with his stupid slicked hair and raunchy purposeful undone tie. Lame to say the least!
NHL got this one right arbitrator is an idiot.
Yup.... I agree with this guy ^^^^
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on March 12, 2016, 12:59:32 AM
Yup.... I agree with this guy ^^^^
we tend to most times don't we!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 12, 2016, 09:56:12 AM
we tend to most times don't we!
Great minds my brotha ;D
What I can't figure out is how this decision fell on the shoulders of a single individual. Why not a panel of 4 or 5 arbitrators who each give their feedback on what happened?
Oh, and the linesman he bulldozed will miss the remainder of the season with post-concussion symptoms:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/don-henderson-nhl-concussion-wideman-1.3488697 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/don-henderson-nhl-concussion-wideman-1.3488697)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 12, 2016, 05:23:52 PM
Oh, and the linesman he bulldozed will miss the remainder of the season with post-concussion symptoms:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/don-henderson-nhl-concussion-wideman-1.3488697 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/don-henderson-nhl-concussion-wideman-1.3488697)
WOW what a joke. Feel for the guy.
SAN JOSE, Calif. - This was the walls crumbling. This was feeling the foundation shake. This was the Rangers no longer being able to pretend things are all right.
This was goalie Henrik Lundqvist again storming off to the locker room at SAP Center before the game was over, his team having hung him out to dry as they gave up three goals in a span of 3:20 in the third period en route to a disheartening 4-1 loss to the Sharks on Saturday afternoon.
....
Things started falling apart early in the third period, first when Tomas Hertl skated up the right wing and around Dan Girardi like he was standing still. Lundqvist was able to stop Hertl's attempt, but Joe Thornton easily cleaned it up into the open net for a 2-1 lead at 5:45. Less than two minutes later, Kevin Hayes turned it over at his offensive blue line and then hardly moved as the Sharks started up the ice on a three-on-two. Joel Ward brought it to the right dot and fired one through Lundqvist's legs, where it trickled over the goal line for a 3-1 lead.
When Joe Pavelski finished another odd-man rush off the leg of a sprawled out Lundqvist at 9:05, that made it 4-1, and Vigneault called for Raanta out of the bullpen. Lundqvist went storming off to the locker room in complete anger.
http://nypost.com/2016/03/19/henrik-lundqvist-storms-off-as-rangers-suddenly-getting-ugly/
Quote from: galeforce on March 20, 2016, 12:00:21 AM
SAN JOSE, Calif. - This was the walls crumbling. This was feeling the foundation shake. This was the Rangers no longer being able to pretend things are all right.
This was goalie Henrik Lundqvist again storming off to the locker room at SAP Center before the game was over, his team having hung him out to dry as they gave up three goals in a span of 3:20 in the third period en route to a disheartening 4-1 loss to the Sharks on Saturday afternoon.
....
Things started falling apart early in the third period, first when Tomas Hertl skated up the right wing and around Dan Girardi like he was standing still. Lundqvist was able to stop Hertl's attempt, but Joe Thornton easily cleaned it up into the open net for a 2-1 lead at 5:45. Less than two minutes later, Kevin Hayes turned it over at his offensive blue line and then hardly moved as the Sharks started up the ice on a three-on-two. Joel Ward brought it to the right dot and fired one through Lundqvist's legs, where it trickled over the goal line for a 3-1 lead.
When Joe Pavelski finished another odd-man rush off the leg of a sprawled out Lundqvist at 9:05, that made it 4-1, and Vigneault called for Raanta out of the bullpen. Lundqvist went storming off to the locker room in complete anger.
http://nypost.com/2016/03/19/henrik-lundqvist-storms-off-as-rangers-suddenly-getting-ugly/
:'(
Watch Lundqvist request a trade. :D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 21, 2016, 06:00:19 PM
Watch Lundqvist request a trade. :D
We don't want him. Damaged goods.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 21, 2016, 06:56:42 PM
We don't want him. Damaged goods.
I never said the Jets did. ???
And to suggest he's damaged goods is absurd. Unless you think a 2.42GAA and .922SV% qualify as damaged goods... My post implied he's probably had enough and would rather play on a team that can defend well consistently. Have you seen how much he's been hung out to dry recently?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 21, 2016, 07:23:16 PM
I never said the Jets did. ???
And to suggest he's damaged goods is absurd. Unless you think a 2.42GAA and .922SV% qualify as damaged goods... My post implied he's probably had enough and would rather play on a team that can defend well consistently. Have you seen how much he's been hung out to dry recently?
meh maybe
No I haven't bothered to watch but seems like a head case lately.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 21, 2016, 07:53:13 PM
No I haven't bothered to watch but seems like a head case lately.
Maybe do more than just watch highlights on TSN.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 21, 2016, 07:54:30 PM
Maybe do more than just watch highlights on TSN.
lifes to busy to watch the rangers game in game out.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 22, 2016, 08:24:52 PM
lifes to busy to watch the rangers game in game out.
Is it? You find no trouble posting your "opinions" on here constantly. :D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 22, 2016, 11:05:29 PM
Is it? You find no trouble posting your "opinions" on here constantly. :D
what who me? Absolutely! Fun fun
I still think he's damaged goods
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 22, 2016, 11:09:30 PM
what who me? Absolutely! Fun fun
I still think he's damaged goods
Any goalie would on a good team that absolutely brain farts some games lately. In post game, he keeps it neutral with saying that he needs to make more saves.
What is it with this team playing bad teams with hot goalies?
Quote from: True Blue on March 23, 2016, 12:10:20 AM
What is it with this team playing bad teams with hot goalies?
not hot enough
Duncan Keith should be nailed with at least 8 games for the intention behind his stick swing & contact with Coyle's face.
Suspension for the Hawk's final 5 & the 1st 3 games of the playoffs ...... this would be a good message sent by Player Safety.
Message to me, is of course for the assault plus that being a Star does not absolve you nor the fact that Coyle got lucky with minimal damage
Keith should miss a couple playoff games but I think that won't happen. Not in this league!
Patrick Roy is a horrible head coach.
Roy is very much an emotional guy - just as he was when he was a player.
Roy's should have kept it in the room the Duchene's celebration was idiotic in a 4-0 game with little time on the clock.
Datsyuk is leaning towards retiring/returning to Russia ........... still a real decent player but not above average as before, IMO.
http://www.tsn.ca/wings-datsyuk-plans-to-retire-after-playoffs-1.468029
Despite if he leaves, by choice ....... the Wings still get his substantial Cap Hit in the upcoming season ....... that rule surprised me.
Coyotes fire GM Maloney:
http://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-fire-general-manager-maloney-after-nine-seasons-1.469445 (http://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-fire-general-manager-maloney-after-nine-seasons-1.469445)
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A source tells TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger that the club has fired general manager Don Maloney.
The Coyotes missed the playoffs for a fourth consecutive season, going 35-39-8 and finishing fourth in the Pacific Division.
Maloney, 57, had served as the team?s general manager for the past nine seasons, making the playoffs on three occasions. The team reached the 2012 Western Conference finals before losing to the eventual Stanley Cup champion Los Angeles Kings in five games.
The future of head coach Dave Tippett remains unclear.
Balony malony
Senators fire HC Cameron:
http://www.tsn.ca/senators-fire-head-coach-cameron-1.470233 (http://www.tsn.ca/senators-fire-head-coach-cameron-1.470233)
Not surprised at all by this move.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 12, 2016, 03:49:25 PM
Senators fire HC Cameron:
http://www.tsn.ca/senators-fire-head-coach-cameron-1.470233 (http://www.tsn.ca/senators-fire-head-coach-cameron-1.470233)
Not surprised at all by this move.
Same
Leafs lock up Rielly and Kadri:
http://www.tsn.ca/maple-leafs-lock-up-rielly-kadri-to-six-year-deals-1.470894 (http://www.tsn.ca/maple-leafs-lock-up-rielly-kadri-to-six-year-deals-1.470894)
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Rielly signed a six-year, $5 million contract and Kadri inked a six-year, $4.5 million deal with the club.
Rielly was expected but Kadri...? Surprsing. I don't think he's worth that.
Hahahaha Kadri come on wow
Quote from: Mike on April 13, 2016, 03:59:05 PM
Hahahaha Kadri come on wow
I guess the Leafs value diving, throat slashing gestures, and overall immaturity over skill. :D
Yeah I do not Kadri but I can see where they're coming from in trying to get core that is at least partly developed. 4.5 isn't bad, either. The Leafs clearly value him more than fans of other teams and must see something in him.
Glad he isn't a Jet though lol.
Good to see hawks lose at home. If Hawks don't win cup, Yes I know, jets don't get 3rounder next year but if hawks lose in the first round jets get a higher first rounder this year. So we don't want hawks to make semi's or finals then lose, because jets get then and even crappier first rounder, which could easily happen do to the amount of hockey there core players played over the last few years
Bob McKenzie Retweeted
Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli 14m14 minutes ago
#Coyotes have purchased AHL's Springfield Falcons, plans to move them to Tucson, Ariz., for next season pending AHL board approval.
Ducks fire Boudreau:
http://www.tsn.ca/ducks-fire-head-coach-boudreau-after-another-playoff-exit-1.480657 (http://www.tsn.ca/ducks-fire-head-coach-boudreau-after-another-playoff-exit-1.480657)
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The Anaheim Ducks fired head coach Bruce Boudreau, the man with the best points percentage among active coaches, on Friday two days after the team was eliminated in Game 7 of their first-round playoff series by the Nashville Predators.
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#NHLDucks have relieved Head Coach Bruce Boudreau of his duties, Executive Vice President/GM Bob Murray announced. pic.twitter.com/aFAH2XhR9x
- Anaheim Ducks (@AnaheimDucks) April 29, 2016
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 08, 2016, 02:22:21 PM
SJ V Nash
Sabres end it next game
NYI V TB
Isles win next games
Isles win game 7
Sabres...? And the Bolts clinched today. LOL :D
I wonder if Capuano's job is safe with the Islanders after his team got manhandled today.
In other news, Boudreau hired by the Wild:
http://www.tsn.ca/wild-agree-to-terms-with-coach-boudreau-1.485762 (http://www.tsn.ca/wild-agree-to-terms-with-coach-boudreau-1.485762)
Boucher hired by the Senators:
http://www.tsn.ca/senators-name-boucher-head-coach-1.485958 (http://www.tsn.ca/senators-name-boucher-head-coach-1.485958)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 09, 2016, 12:18:51 AM
Sabres...? And the Bolts clinched today. LOL :D
I wonder if Capuano's job is safe with the Islanders after his team got manhandled today.
In other news, Boudreau hired by the Wild:
http://www.tsn.ca/wild-agree-to-terms-with-coach-boudreau-1.485762 (http://www.tsn.ca/wild-agree-to-terms-with-coach-boudreau-1.485762)
Boucher hired by the Senators:
http://www.tsn.ca/senators-name-boucher-head-coach-1.485958 (http://www.tsn.ca/senators-name-boucher-head-coach-1.485958)
Sens went young for a HC. Bit surprising to me.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 08, 2016, 02:22:21 PM
Pens V Caps is gone go 7
Then Caps choke again
Blues V Stars
Blues end it in there next game
SJ V Nash
Sabres end it next game
NYI V TB
Isles win next games
Isles win game 7
Not even the right thread :D
In my defence the spell check got me on the sabres thing and I was wrong regarding the Islanders series
Others were just wrong redictions.
Freakin relax people
:D
"spell check"
Quote from: Mike on May 10, 2016, 06:08:12 PM
"spell check"
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Do the Caps survive tonight?
I say YES!
Preds finish off Sharks I hate to say
Stars beat Blues I also hate to say
If that happens that happens the western final is a complete dud for me.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 10, 2016, 09:31:47 PM
Do the Caps survive tonight?
I say YES!
Yeah, no. They were lousy for long stretches last night and if not for some serious goaltending by Holtby, that game likely ends at the end of the third period. The better team won the series.
Poor Ovi...
Gotta feel for Ovechkin in what might have been his best opportunity so far to win a championship. And Holtby, who's been a stud in net.
Austonmania Haver@50_MissionCap
Weird fact: Carl Hagelin has played for the team that's eliminated the Capitals every season of his career the Caps have made the playoffs.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 11, 2016, 07:12:37 PM
Gotta feel for Ovechkin in what might have been his best opportunity so far to win a championship. And Holtby, who's been a stud in net.
I dont feel for Ovi ... I like him and all but hes never had enough to get over the hump. Hes krazy good but he just dont have that thing to to put a team on his shoulders and take them with him.
Ill bet that the only way Ovi gets a Cup is if one day hes traded at the dead line to a team on the run.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 12, 2016, 12:14:17 AM
Austonmania Haver@50_MissionCap
Weird fact: Carl Hagelin has played for the team that's eliminated the Capitals every season of his career the Caps have made the playoffs.
Crazy. Maybe the Capitals need to sign him. ;D
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 12, 2016, 01:30:34 AM
I dont feel for Ovi ... I like him and all but hes never had enough to get over the hump. Hes krazy good but he just dont have that thing to to put a team on his shoulders and take them with him.
Ill bet that the only way Ovi gets a Cup is if one day hes traded at the dead line to a team on the run.
I couldn't disagree more. One player doesn't make a team and since Trotz took over as HC, Ovechkin has been a much more selfless player and I would argue a better leader. He put up more points in the second round than Crosby and Malkin combined, BTW. IMO, he did more than enough to give his team a chance, but players like Kuznetsov and Burakovsky were no-shows in the post-season. The Capitals' depth which had been important in their regular season campaign disappeared in the playoffs.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 12, 2016, 01:31:01 PM
Crazy. Maybe the Capitals need to sign him. ;D
They'd probably missed the playoffs, effectively making the run continue, because Wask would have put themselves out of the playoffs...
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 12, 2016, 01:31:01 PM
Crazy. Maybe the Capitals need to sign him. ;D
I couldn't disagree more. One player doesn't make a team and since Trotz took over as HC, Ovechkin has been a much more selfless player and I would argue a better leader. He put up more points in the second round than Crosby and Malkin combined, BTW. IMO, he did more than enough to give his team a chance, but players like Kuznetsov and Burakovsky were no-shows in the post-season. The Capitals' depth which had been important in their regular season campaign disappeared in the playoffs.
Read my post again. You just said the same as me.
Scoring points is all good but if you cant carry your team and make them all play better all the points mean nothing.
Leaders lead and make the players around you better.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 12, 2016, 03:19:24 PM
Read my post again. You just said the same as me.
Scoring points is all good but if you cant carry your team and make them all play better all the points mean nothing.
Leaders lead and make the players around you better.
One player shouldn't be expected to carry a team, though. Look at Price and the Habs this past season. And in the post-season, that's magnified (see Lundqvist with the Rangers in the first round). You need depth to win.
Ovechkin did lead. The depth players on the Capitals didn't do their jobs. You can't blame him for that.
Hopefully sharks win tonight
Nashville is a blah team to me.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 12, 2016, 04:35:19 PM
One player shouldn't be expected to carry a team, though. Look at Price and the Habs this past season. And in the post-season, that's magnified (see Lundqvist with the Rangers in the first round). You need depth to win.
Ovechkin did lead. The depth players on the Capitals didn't do their jobs. You can't blame him for that.
Dude some players just have that lil extra to make the players around him better when its needed. Toews, Sid, They have it.
They dont need to score the most goals or assts.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 12, 2016, 07:22:21 PM
Dude some players just have that lil extra to make the players around him better when its needed. Toews, Sid, They have it.
They dont need to score the most goals or assts.
Actually, the Blackhawks have had depth, perhaps the best depth of any franchise in the NHL the past 7-8 seasons. That's been the case for the Penguins this post-season, getting significantly better play from all four forward lines, namely players like Bonino, Kessel, and Hornqvist. If not for them, do you honestly see the Penguins making it to the ECF? I sure don't, especially when Crosby and Malkin - two cornerstones for that franchise - went unnoticeable for lengthy stretches vs. the Capitals. In previous seasons, the Penguins were a regular season powerhouse but came up short more often than because of a lack of depth. Despite Crosby's leadership.
And then there is the other team in the ECF: the Lightning. Stamkos hasn't played in ages but the team's depth has shone and they've gone 8-2 so far in the playoffs. A successful playoff campaign in today's NHL relies heavily on good depth, not on intangibles of the player wearing the C on his jersey. One player can't and doesn't carry a team. Look at the Stars last night: game 7 on home ice and they get slaughtered by a team with superior depth.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 12, 2016, 08:28:13 PM
Actually, the Blackhawks have had depth, perhaps the best depth of any franchise in the NHL the past 7-8 seasons. That's been the case for the Penguins this post-season, getting significantly better play from all four forward lines, namely players like Bonino, Kessel, and Hornqvist. If not for them, do you honestly see the Penguins making it to the ECF? I sure don't, especially when Crosby and Malkin - two cornerstones for that franchise - went unnoticeable for lengthy stretches vs. the Capitals. In previous seasons, the Penguins were a regular season powerhouse but came up short more often than because of a lack of depth. Despite Crosby's leadership.
And then there is the other team in the ECF: the Lightning. Stamkos hasn't played in ages but the team's depth has shone and they've gone 8-2 so far in the playoffs. A successful playoff campaign in today's NHL relies heavily on good depth, not on intangibles of the player wearing the C on his jersey. One player can't and doesn't carry a team. Look at the Stars last night: game 7 on home ice and they get slaughtered by a team with superior depth.
And this is our whole plan
Chevy came from the Hawks.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 12, 2016, 08:28:13 PM
Actually, the Blackhawks have had depth, perhaps the best depth of any franchise in the NHL the past 7-8 seasons. That's been the case for the Penguins this post-season, getting significantly better play from all four forward lines, namely players like Bonino, Kessel, and Hornqvist. If not for them, do you honestly see the Penguins making it to the ECF? I sure don't, especially when Crosby and Malkin - two cornerstones for that franchise - went unnoticeable for lengthy stretches vs. the Capitals. In previous seasons, the Penguins were a regular season powerhouse but came up short more often than because of a lack of depth. Despite Crosby's leadership.
And then there is the other team in the ECF: the Lightning. Stamkos hasn't played in ages but the team's depth has shone and they've gone 8-2 so far in the playoffs. A successful playoff campaign in today's NHL relies heavily on good depth, not on intangibles of the player wearing the C on his jersey. One player can't and doesn't carry a team. Look at the Stars last night: game 7 on home ice and they get slaughtered by a team with superior depth.
I agree with muddy on this one as well. Actually I think we all kinda agree. It s all about depth and the Jets are headed there for sure.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 12, 2016, 11:41:20 PM
I agree with muddy on this one as well. Actually I think we all kinda agree. It s all about depth and the Jets are headed there for sure.
Yup. seems so
Wow Preds suck
They had what all of 10 shots
Losers
I will enjoy the blues vs sharks
Only team I don't care for is TBay
Blues Vs Pens would be a fun series
Sharks vs Pens would be my second fav pick final
Here those Pens
Kessel looks awesome!
Bolts are going down
Shark pens final pens win
I hate to say it but the Pittsburgh Penguins just might be done.
No Daly, ?'s about goaltending, Crosby invisible, etc..
On the other hand the Lightning are darn impressive. Kudos to Stevie Y!!
Though I think both series will go seven games.
thought there was a trade freeze till after the playoffs .......... me so wrong
Canucks sent forward Jared McCann & their 2nd & 4th round picks to the Panthers for Dman, Erik Gudbranson & a 5th round spot.
Blackhawks trade Bickell, Teravainen to Hurricanes:
http://www.tsn.ca/hawks-trade-bickell-teravainen-to-canes-1.508157 (http://www.tsn.ca/hawks-trade-bickell-teravainen-to-canes-1.508157)
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The Chicago Blackhawks traded forwards Bryan Bickell and Teuvo Teravainen to the Carolina Hurricanes on Wednesday in exchange for a second-round pick (50th overall acquired from the New York Rangers) in the 2016 NHL Draft and a third-round pick in 2017.
Red Wings re-sign Sheahan:
http://www.tsn.ca/red-wings-sign-sheahan-to-two-year-deal-1.508074 (http://www.tsn.ca/red-wings-sign-sheahan-to-two-year-deal-1.508074)
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The Detroit Red Wings have signed centre Riley Sheahan to a two-year contract worth $2.075 million per season.
Was the Chicago move a cap move? Seems the trade favours Car.
Quote from: blue_or_die on June 15, 2016, 06:12:56 PM
Was the Chicago move a cap move? Seems the trade favours Car.
It's absolutely a cap shedding move by the Hawks. Great acquisition for the Hurricanes, too.
Blackhawks re-sign Panik:
http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-re-sign-panik-to-one-year-deal-1.508337 (http://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-re-sign-panik-to-one-year-deal-1.508337)
Leafs place Cowen on waivers:
http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-place-cowen-on-waivers-for-buyout-1.508244 (http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-place-cowen-on-waivers-for-buyout-1.508244)
Hurricanes re-sign Ward:
http://www.tsn.ca/canes-sign-ward-to-two-year-6-6m-deal-1.508843 (http://www.tsn.ca/canes-sign-ward-to-two-year-6-6m-deal-1.508843)
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The Carolina Hurricanes have signed goaltender Cam Ward to a two-year, $6.6 million contract extension.
The team announced the deal Thursday. Ward will be paid $3.5 million next season and $3.1 million in 2017-18, keeping the 32-year-old netminder with the team that selected him in the first round of the 2002 draft.
And the Kings name Kopitar captain:
http://www.tsn.ca/kings-name-kopitar-team-captain-1.508952 (http://www.tsn.ca/kings-name-kopitar-team-captain-1.508952)
Flames name their HC:
http://www.tsn.ca/flames-name-gulutzan-head-coach-1.509551 (http://www.tsn.ca/flames-name-gulutzan-head-coach-1.509551)
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Glen Gulutzan is the new head coach of the Calgary Flames.
The 44-year-old from Hudson Bay, Sask., was a Vancouver Canucks assistant coach for the last three seasons.
felt it was a good move by Leafs to get the Ducks goalie F. Anderson for this years #30 Draft spot ..... no doubt he will sign
Hobey Baker Award winner (beat Connor in the voting) Vesey had his rights picked up by the Sabres ....... great if they can sign him
Yandle's rights have now gone to the Panthers for a draft spot, not yet announced & a conditional pick, if the Panthers sign him
Quote from: Jockitch on June 20, 2016, 11:55:22 PM
felt it was a good move by Leafs to get the Ducks goalie F. Anderson for this years #30 Draft spot ..... no doubt he will sign
Hobey Baker Award winner (beat Connor in the voting) Vesey had his rights picked up by the Sabres ....... great if they can sign him
Yandle's rights have now gone to the Panthers for a draft spot, not yet announced & a conditional pick, if the Panthers sign him
sabres could be dangerous minus Kane
NHL Awards went pretty much as expected last night. Kane sure cleaned up after his career season.
In other NHL news, the Panthers sign Yandle to a huge 7-year, $44.45M deal:
http://www.tsn.ca/panthers-yandle-agree-on-seven-year-deal-1.513788 (http://www.tsn.ca/panthers-yandle-agree-on-seven-year-deal-1.513788)
Webber for Subban
Hall for Larrson.
Stamkos stays.
Trouba offered 7 for 7 by the bruins.
Which one of these would you have thought this morning would be the least likely to happen?
Quote from: theaardvark on June 29, 2016, 08:22:37 PM
Webber for Subban
Hall for Larrson.
Stamkos stays.
Trouba offered 7 for 7 by the bruins.
Which one of these would you have thought this morning would be the least likely to happen?
where does it legit say that re: Trouba?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 30, 2016, 01:47:06 AM
where does it legit say that re: Trouba?
Winnipeg Sun.... ::)
for sure ........ there is No offer published by late afternoon & let's agree ........ Boston would not be silly enough to give a $7 for 7 year offer sheet
If it did occur ....... believe Chevy would be ridden out on the rails if he matched it.
On H & L show they had a fella on, who had his own sport radio show in Montreal, say some amazing negative things about Subban.
He apparently has been hinting, for several months, to his listeners, that the Subban "good team man" persona is full of troubling ego & young rebel issues.
He exampled; broken curfews, late for team meetings, showed his aggravation with not being team Captain, his peers chose Pacioretty as their rep for the King Clancy Award ....... for exemplifying leadership qualities on & off the ice, & who made significant humanitarian contributions in the community ...... despite PK's major 10 year $$ donation.
He was somewhat adamant (sorry no quotes) that PK liked being a rock star in Montreal vs being a good team man.
However, as far as a trade ....... both teams won on the ice.
I don't think in the end either team will be "winners". We here best days are behind him and PK is PK he will for ever be a high risk player. Not a winning formula. Preds are a weird team now.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 30, 2016, 01:47:06 AM
where does it legit say that re: Trouba?
No where... its the one thing that DIDN'T happen... yet. But comparing it to the others... I don't think it would have been the one chosen as least likely...
Russian Alex Radulov comes back from the KHL, where he was a star, returns now to the NHL & signs with the Canadians ..... for 1 year - $5.75 million -- WOW !!
TSN @TSN_Sports
John Scott: "Hopefully someone makes a mistake and signs me!" VIDEO: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/scott-hopefully-someone-makes-a-mistake-and-signs-me~903130
LOL... good one...
saw him say it ...... he is so casually funny every time I've seen him interviewed ...... CBC should find a spot for this guy
Oilers getting Lucic is a nice move for them. Lucia to me is a funny player he is either hot hot scoring or goes on these horrendous scoring draughts. He'll fit in nicely with that forward group though. Good for them!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 01, 2016, 10:01:48 PM
Oilers getting Lucic is a nice move for them. Lucia to me is a funny player he is either hot hot scoring or goes on these horrendous scoring draughts. He'll fit in nicely with that forward group though. Good for them!
I agree... But they still have zero D.
If they stay the same they will still need to score 5 a game to just win.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on July 01, 2016, 10:43:42 PM
I agree... But they still have zero D.
If they stay the same they will still need to score 5 a game to just win.
hey..they got Larsson!!! and we got Hall!!! 8)
Congrats AngryGreg ........ Hall is a superb player in my eyes with a great continued career ahead.
Quote from: AngryGreg on July 02, 2016, 06:36:59 PM
hey..they got Larsson!!! and we got Hall!!! 8)
Jersy stole that.
Quote from: Jockitch on July 03, 2016, 12:55:26 AM
Congrats AngryGreg ........ Hall is a superb player in my eyes with a great continued career ahead.
cheers!
George McPhee named first GM of the Las Vegas franchise:
http://www.tsn.ca/mcphee-named-gm-of-las-vegas-nhl-team-1.526219 (http://www.tsn.ca/mcphee-named-gm-of-las-vegas-nhl-team-1.526219)
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As general manager of the NHL's expansion Las Vegas franchise, George McPhee wants to build a team that will entertain fans in a unique market and bring hockey's hallowed trophy to the desert sooner rather than later.
Named the first GM in franchise history Wednesday, the seasoned McPhee had the deep resume to convince owner Bill Foley to choose him from among seven candidates. Now it's up to him to build Las Vegas from scratch to begin play in 2017-18, a task he knows won't be easy.
"Our mission here is clear: We're going to build an organization and a team that people in Nevada and Las Vegas will be proud of, and we're going to do it quickly and we're aiming at the Stanley Cup," McPhee said. "It's that simple."
McPhee most recently served as special adviser to New York Islanders GM Garth Snow and before that spent 16 seasons as GM of the Washington Capitals.
The lack of name for the Las Vegas franchise is costing them big time in merch sales and establishing a brand.
The rumoured Knights name seems to have a hiccup in the London Knights already using the name.
Simple solution. Buy the London Knights and make them a farm team.
Make Dale Hunter your first HC.
Problem solved, and away we go.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 18, 2016, 05:45:34 PM
The lack of name for the Las Vegas franchise is costing them big time in merch sales and establishing a brand.
The rumoured Knights name seems to have a hiccup in the London Knights already using the name.
Simple solution. Buy the London Knights and make them a farm team.
Make Dale Hunter your first HC.
Problem solved, and away we go.
Great suggestion, I'm sure reclassifying an OHL team and turning it into a minor league pro team, all the while needing to displace the current junior roster, fill an entirely new roster of professionals and entering into what is quite probably the least convenient travel arrangement between a main and farm club in all of pro hockey is exactly what comes to mind for most when they think "simple solution"
Quote from: Mike on July 18, 2016, 06:14:10 PM
Great suggestion, I'm sure reclassifying an OHL team and turning it into a minor league pro team, all the while needing to displace the current junior roster, fill an entirely new roster of professionals and entering into what is quite probably the least convenient travel arrangement between a main and farm club in all of pro hockey is exactly what comes to mind for most when they think "simple solution"
Jee-zus. :D
Quote from: Mike on July 18, 2016, 06:14:10 PM
Great suggestion, I'm sure reclassifying an OHL team and turning it into a minor league pro team, all the while needing to displace the current junior roster, fill an entirely new roster of professionals and entering into what is quite probably the least convenient travel arrangement between a main and farm club in all of pro hockey is exactly what comes to mind for most when they think "simple solution"
I guess I didn't make my point properly. Keep the London Knights as they are, in London. As a Junior affiliate. But use the name in Vegas as well. London referred to affectionately a the Baby Knights.
Or give Hunter a couple mil for the rights... make that back in a few months of merch sales they are missing out from snowbirds visiting Vegas now...
Quote from: theaardvark on July 19, 2016, 02:43:52 PM
I guess I didn't make my point properly. Keep the London Knights as they are, in London. As a Junior affiliate. But use the name in Vegas as well. London referred to affectionately a the Baby Knights.
Or give Hunter a couple mil for the rights... make that back in a few months of merch sales they are missing out from snowbirds visiting Vegas now...
Nah, that never happens.
Seriously, what you're suggesting is pure silliness. The Las Vegas NHL franchise will choose a team name in due time.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 19, 2016, 02:43:52 PM
I guess I didn't make my point properly. Keep the London Knights as they are, in London. As a Junior affiliate. But use the name in Vegas as well. London referred to affectionately a the Baby Knights.
Or give Hunter a couple mil for the rights... make that back in a few months of merch sales they are missing out from snowbirds visiting Vegas now...
Teams don't have "junior affiliates".
Quote from: Mike on July 19, 2016, 03:06:02 PM
Teams don't have "junior affiliates".
I guess our "affiliation" with Barrie is unique.... regardless, if the London Knights are what is standing in the way of the Las Vegas franchise having the most appropriate name for the squad "Las Vegas Knights" then get 'er done...
I can't think of a better name for them... its a perfect fit, really.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 19, 2016, 04:57:21 PM
I guess our "affiliation" with Barrie is unique....
Well, it really isn't one.
https://twitter.com/AaronBesecker/status/756509264827576320 (https://twitter.com/AaronBesecker/status/756509264827576320)
The picture is pretty good on many levels...
Quelle surprise...
http://www.tsn.ca/kane-arrested-by-buffalo-police-1.531000 (http://www.tsn.ca/kane-arrested-by-buffalo-police-1.531000)
"He'll be better in Buffalo because it's not small like Winnipeg," Sabres fans said.
"Winnipeg fans vilified him, so he caused trouble there," they said.
"Tim Murray made a good trade and Kane will thrive," they said.
Evander Kane is a train wreck.
Best. Trade. Everrrrr.
So, now its Stafford, Myers, Armia, Lemeiux, and Roslovic for Bogo and Kasdorf.
Hmmm... nice trade.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 22, 2016, 07:19:18 PM
So, now its Stafford, Myers, Armia, Lemeiux, and Roslovic for Bogo and Kasdorf. And one of hockey's biggest ego headcases.
Hmmm... nice trade.
Fixed it. ;D
Oh evander you make me laugh!! :D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 22, 2016, 08:25:02 PM
Fixed it. ;D
He's probably going to get traded, and Buffalo will have to eat a chunk of his salary. Unless he's cut outright for morals / conduct breech of contract. Either way, he goes from being an asset to being either nothing or a liability.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 23, 2016, 01:28:03 PM
He's probably going to get traded, and Buffalo will have to eat a chunk of his salary. Unless he's cut outright for morals / conduct breech of contract. Either way, he goes from being an asset to being either nothing or a liability.
I think he's very close to being out of the league. I could see him in the KHL in the next couple years. Apparently they pay you with bags of money there? He'd like that!
Quote from: theaardvark on July 23, 2016, 01:28:03 PM
He's probably going to get traded, and Buffalo will have to eat a chunk of his salary. Unless he's cut outright for morals / conduct breech of contract. Either way, he goes from being an asset to being either nothing or a liability.
Or he gets left unprotected and goes to Vegas.
Quote from: SaxonMiller11 on July 23, 2016, 06:05:02 PM
Or he gets left unprotected and goes to Vegas.
oh ya Kane in Vegas!!!! Wow that would be a treat to watch on....lol
Very real possibility that he gets cut on morals clauses and doesn't have a job. Hope banked some and wasn't counting on the "guaranteed" contract..
Quote from: theaardvark on July 23, 2016, 08:33:59 PM
Very real possibility that he gets cut on morals clauses and doesn't have a job. Hope banked some and wasn't counting on the "guaranteed" contract..
I pity the guy at all. He dig his own hole! He's getting everything he asked for.
I use to like Kane..... But hes become a complete idiot and glad hes gone.
at this point I'm sure buffalo wants Kane gone....he contributes very little on ice, and is nothing but a distraction off the ice..ive said it for years..Kane loves Kane..he is the Donald Trump of the NHL
When he was here, he had his flashes but was never consistent enough. For the first 2-3 years it was always "we need a good centre for Kane". In the end he couldn't fit on a line with Scheifele and Wheeler, a line that would make any player with untapped potential look good
What a great way to flush a career. Chevy is looking like a genius on that one.
If Armia and Lemieux blossom into bonfide front line players or better than it has to go down as one of the most brilliantly and well timed trades in NHL history.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 25, 2016, 07:59:33 PM
If Armia and Lemieux blossom into bonfide front line players or better than it has to go down as one of the most brilliantly and well timed trades in NHL history.
If they flame out completely, this is still one of the best trades ever... Myers, Stafford and Roslovic... for the oft injured Bogo, #9 and goalie no one will ever see at the NHL level...
Quote from: theaardvark on July 25, 2016, 10:05:54 PM
If they flame out completely, this is still one of the best trades ever... Myers, Stafford and Roslovic... for the oft injured Bogo, #9 and goalie no one will ever see at the NHL level...
no it's a great trade not best ever..... yet!
Quote from: theaardvark on July 25, 2016, 10:05:54 PM
...and goalie no one will ever see at the NHL level...
I wouldn't write off Kasdorf just yet. No question the Jets won this trade, though.
Red Wings sign DeKeyser to 6-year, $30M contract:
http://www.tsn.ca/red-wings-sign-dekeyser-to-six-year-deal-1.532798 (http://www.tsn.ca/red-wings-sign-dekeyser-to-six-year-deal-1.532798)
Well, there's some leverage for Trouba's camp.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 26, 2016, 02:48:03 PM
Red Wings sign DeKeyser to 6-year, $30M contract:
http://www.tsn.ca/red-wings-sign-dekeyser-to-six-year-deal-1.532798 (http://www.tsn.ca/red-wings-sign-dekeyser-to-six-year-deal-1.532798)
Well, there's some leverage for Trouba's camp.
DeK - 234 games, 14G, 61A, 75Pts.
Trouba - 211 games, 23g, 49A, 72 pts.
Pretty similar numbers... $5mil/yr for 6 years. Might be more ammo for Chevy than Trouba...
Quote from: theaardvark on July 26, 2016, 07:32:52 PM
DeK - 234 games, 14G, 61A, 75Pts.
Trouba - 211 games, 23g, 49A, 72 pts.
Pretty similar numbers... $5mil/yr for 6 years. Might be more ammo for Chevy than Trouba...
If all you're comparing is point totals of
defensemen, you really don't have clue. Stick to football, Aardsy.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 26, 2016, 08:14:26 PM
If all you're comparing is point totals of defensemen, you really don't have clue. Stick to football, Aardsy.
come on give the guy at least a small break! Similar numbers point wise is a measuring stick D man or not!!
Since your the expert, please why don't you educate us...
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 26, 2016, 10:53:39 PM
come on give the guy at least a small break! Similar numbers point wise is a measuring stick D man or not!!
Since your the expert, please why don't you educate us...
No, it isn't. A defenseman's job isn't just to generate offense. Looking at the advanced stats (a much better measuring stick than simply point totals alone), you'll see Trouba is considerably better, especially in his own end. Bearing in mind the contract given to DeKeyser, this gives Trouba's camp leverage simply because he is a better defenseman both in terms of defensive skill and potential.
At no point have I ever claimed to be an expert, either. ::)
Senators sign Hoffman to 4-year, $20.75M contract:
http://www.tsn.ca/sens-sign-hoffman-to-four-year-20-75m-deal-1.533553 (http://www.tsn.ca/sens-sign-hoffman-to-four-year-20-75m-deal-1.533553)
Really nice contract for a productive top-6 forward.
Red Wings and Mrazek avoid arbitration, agree to 2-year contract (no mention of money):
http://www.tsn.ca/red-wings-mrazek-reach-two-year-deal-1.533623 (http://www.tsn.ca/red-wings-mrazek-reach-two-year-deal-1.533623)
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The Detroit Red Wings have signed goaltender Petr Mrazek to a two-year contract.
Mrazek was the only player taken to club-elected arbitration this season, but the two sides settled ahead of Wednesday's meeting.
The 24-year-old goaltender posted a 27-16-6 record with the Red Wings last season and started three of the team's five playoff games. Despite his 1-2 record in the postseason, Mrazek posted a .945 save percentage and a goals against average of 1.36 with a shutout to boot.
In the regular season, Mrazek posted a 2.33 goals against average and a save percentage of .921 while starting a career-high 49 games.
Wow... damning new reports out on the Kane "incident"... I don't think he's going to skate from this one...
https://cdn.streamable.com/video/mp4-mobile/utnl.mp4
http://deadspin.com/court-documents-evander-kane-grabbed-womens-necks-at-b-1784395383?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Quote from: theaardvark on July 27, 2016, 04:57:37 PM
Wow... damning new reports out on the Kane "incident"... I don't think he's going to skate from this one...
https://cdn.streamable.com/video/mp4-mobile/utnl.mp4
http://deadspin.com/court-documents-evander-kane-grabbed-womens-necks-at-b-1784395383?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Yikes. He is hooped.
With the new scrutiny on violence against women, this is not going to go over well with the NHL, or the Sabres... abuse, strangling and death threats? Sabres just opened up some SMS room, and space for a young player to help Eichel...
The Evander Kane follies continue. 21 year old woman suing him for assault.
Excerpt from today's FREEP
Documents filed July 1 in Erie County State Supreme on behalf of Rachel Kuechle Court say Kane met her in a bar, invited her to what he said was a party and then attacked her, causing cuts and bleeding that required multiple surgeries.
Terrible news for Sabre land, cuz I sure don't see him donning their jersey anytime soon ........... but more importantly though, that justice gets meted out correctly.
Patrick Roy steps down as HC and VP of the Avalanche:
http://www.tsn.ca/roy-resigns-from-avalanche-organization-1.544058 (http://www.tsn.ca/roy-resigns-from-avalanche-organization-1.544058)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 11, 2016, 06:15:18 PM
Patrick Roy steps down as HC and VP of the Avalanche:
http://www.tsn.ca/roy-resigns-from-avalanche-organization-1.544058 (http://www.tsn.ca/roy-resigns-from-avalanche-organization-1.544058)
he'll be missed! Loved those explosions
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 12, 2016, 01:17:30 AM
he'll be missed! Loved those explosions
Thats what I was thinking too. Roy was never one to calmly sit around and assess.
Quote from: Old Rusty on August 12, 2016, 06:20:46 PM
Thats what I was thinking too. Roy was never one to calmly sit around and assess.
gotta love that firey Quebec passion!!!
Quite the read, so I thought I'd share:
http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/devin-setoguchi-rises-from-rock-bottom-to-earn-another-shot-at-the-nhl (http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/devin-setoguchi-rises-from-rock-bottom-to-earn-another-shot-at-the-nhl)
A very interesting read and I'm glad he's turned things around. Hearing his story makes me wonder about Kane and if he's on a similar path.
Hopefully he is on the right path and anyone still struggling with similar issues gets the help they need. Lots of rumors around other jets (some gone some still here) using cocaine - hopefully they have gotten or will get that help too.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 07, 2016, 10:59:47 PM
Quite the read, so I thought I'd share:
http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/devin-setoguchi-rises-from-rock-bottom-to-earn-another-shot-at-the-nhl (http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/devin-setoguchi-rises-from-rock-bottom-to-earn-another-shot-at-the-nhl)
Loved Seto as a Shark, always seemed to come through in the clutch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93UvCilwXH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x97TtZoOIEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekoNd1PJkxs
Gotta love the Umbrella trick as well - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRE1Gdbob5s
and then of course he was a part of one of the most important moves the franchise has made getting Burns to SJ. Hope he can make it work in LA.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on September 08, 2016, 02:10:06 AM
A very interesting read and I'm glad he's turned things around. Hearing his story makes me wonder about Kane and if he's on a similar path.
Hmmmmm
Devin Setoguchi tells @hustlerlawless #nhljets teammate Evander Kane came to his house, poured out all his booze in attempt to help him
Quote from: The Zipp on September 08, 2016, 09:22:48 PM
Hmmmmm
Devin Setoguchi tells @hustlerlawless #nhljets teammate Evander Kane came to his house, poured out all his booze in attempt to help him
That's interesting, especially since Kane seems to be a huge partier and an aggressive drunk (referring to the assault allegations) Nice that he tried to help....
I heard it wasn't Kane the real party animal, he was busy chasing his model girlfriend. The guilty participants were a guy whose nick name rhymes with Logo and another who's name almost sounds like tuba.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 08, 2016, 09:22:48 PM
Hmmmmm
Devin Setoguchi tells @hustlerlawless #nhljets teammate Evander Kane came to his house, poured out all his booze in attempt to help him
You know you have serious problems when Evander Kane is concerned about how much you party/drink.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 09, 2016, 12:10:25 AM
I heard it wasn't Kane the real party animal, he was busy chasing his model girlfriend. The guilty participants were a guy whose nick name rhymes with Logo and another who's name almost sounds like tuba.
That certainly is the rumour.
That Tuba guy is playing for the USA and i hope him playing with these high end players and the best in the World sees what it takes to make high end cash.
Then again he could play lights out and demand high coin or he can play avg and get avg cash and still have to earn the big money.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on September 10, 2016, 01:18:58 AM
That Tuba guy is playing for the USA and i hope him playing with these high end players and the best in the World sees what it takes to make high end cash.
Then again he could play lights out and demand high coin or he can play avg and get avg cash and still have to earn the big money.
If this story about this Tuba guy is true, maybe we should deal him. Last thing we need is another Kane / Bogo type in the lockerroom. I don't care how good he is, that's just a time bomb waiting to blow up... and the last thing this team needs is a $6,000,000 problem
Quote from: Colton on September 08, 2016, 03:59:38 AM
Loved Seto as a Shark, always seemed to come through in the clutch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93UvCilwXH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x97TtZoOIEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekoNd1PJkxs
Gotta love the Umbrella trick as well - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRE1Gdbob5s
and then of course he was a part of one of the most important moves the franchise has made getting Burns to SJ. Hope he can make it work in LA.
When his story broke, it clicked for me. When they picked him up I thought he'd be terrific. As we all know he was a massive dud with the Jets.
Brad Marchand gets paid:
http://www.tsn.ca/marchand-signs-eight-year-49-million-extension-with-bruins-1.573902 (http://www.tsn.ca/marchand-signs-eight-year-49-million-extension-with-bruins-1.573902)
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Brad Marchand has signed an eight-year, $49 million contract extension with the Boston Bruins.
Marchand was in the last year of a four-year, $18 million deal with the Bruins.
The 28-year-old winger is coming off a career season, registering 37 goals and 60 points in 77 games for the Bruins.
Same contract as Scheifele. Good for him. He's a good player.
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Dan Saraceni @cultureoflosing
Anybody made the joke yet about the Oilers mascot being a Lynx because they're usually the first team to hit them?
Quote from: theaardvark on September 26, 2016, 06:56:26 PM
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Dan Saraceni @cultureoflosing
Anybody made the joke yet about the Oilers mascot being a Lynx because they're usually the first team to hit them?
AAAAAAAHH!!
Man that cat is scary
I looooove it. Haha. Lynx is one of the most popular wildlife in Alberta.
Some headlines on the opening day of the 2016-17 NHL season:
Eichel left practice today with high ankle sprain, out for at least the remainder of October:
http://www.tsn.ca/sabres-eichel-suffers-high-ankle-sprain-1.583779 (http://www.tsn.ca/sabres-eichel-suffers-high-ankle-sprain-1.583779)
Gretzky re-joins Oilers organization as partner and vice-chair:
http://www.tsn.ca/gretzky-returning-to-oilers-in-working-role-1.583911 (http://www.tsn.ca/gretzky-returning-to-oilers-in-working-role-1.583911)
Price sidelined with flu, will not play in Buffalo tomorrow:
http://www.tsn.ca/price-still-sidelined-with-illness-1.583723 (http://www.tsn.ca/price-still-sidelined-with-illness-1.583723)
Mathews scores on only his 3rd shift.
Very nice
Should motivate Liane
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 12, 2016, 11:36:49 PM
Mathews scores on only his 3rd shift.
Very nice
Should motivate Liane
And now has two goals. Wow! :o
3
I think his first goal was the first of the season.
3 goals on 3 shots
Unreal. Just unreal.
Impressive to say the least. Got him your hockey pool?
Liane better light it up tomorrow!!!
I'll be there anyone else going?
4
Holy ****
And another goal for Matthews. Holy crap!
How does that even happen??
...and Janet jackson is pregnant...
That is basically my twitter timeline
Quote from: The Zipp on October 13, 2016, 01:02:59 AM
How does that even happen??
...and Janet jackson is pregnant...
That is basically my twitter timeline
At 50... That is messed up.
Unlike Matthews' historic NHL debut tonight. ;D
4 goals absolutely unreal!!!!
I'm jealous
Bravo bravo Mathews
Typical Leaf story...
Mathews scores 4 in debut, Leafs still find a way to lose...
Quote from: theaardvark on October 13, 2016, 06:02:06 AM
Typical Leaf story...
Mathews scores 4 in debut, Leafs still find a way to lose...
Laughed pretty hard when I heard about the Matthews goals, then looked at my phone when I woke up this morning expecting them to have routed the Sens, naturally. Nope lmao.
Based on watching TSN... they'll be retiring Matthews jersey number by the end of October. :P
Excited about the Sharks this season. Lost noone of actual value, added Boedker on Couture's line, Marleau doesn't looks like he has lost his first few strides, Jones has some experience under his belt as a #1, and Timo should be ready by November. Stay healthy and they've got a real shot I would think.
Quote from: Colton on October 13, 2016, 03:06:04 PM
Excited about the Sharks this season. Lost noone of actual value, added Boedker on Couture's line, Marleau doesn't looks like he has lost his first few strides, Jones has some experience under his belt as a #1, and Timo should be ready by November. Stay healthy and they've got a real shot I would think.
Boedker is a really nice pickup for the Sharks.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 13, 2016, 06:02:06 AM
Typical Leaf story...
Mathews scores 4 in debut, Leafs still find a way to lose...
Winnipeg Jets @NHLJets
"It would be great to score the first goal, but two points for the team is more important to me." @PatrikLaine29 on his NHL debut.Wow... is that a Finnish burn I see? Well played sir, well played...
Quote from: theaardvark on October 13, 2016, 05:21:15 PM
Winnipeg Jets @NHLJets
"It would be great to score the first goal, but two points for the team is more important to me." @PatrikLaine29 on his NHL debut.
Wow... is that a Finnish burn I see? Well played sir, well played...
No, that's just
your typical over-read/misinterpretation. He's simply saying getting the win is more valuable - which it is.
Not dissimilar to what Matthews said in his post-game interview last night: he'd have preferred getting the win despite his historic first NHL game.
Quote from: blue_or_die on October 13, 2016, 12:56:37 PM
Laughed pretty hard when I heard about the Matthews goals, then looked at my phone when I woke up this morning expecting them to have routed the Sens, naturally. Nope lmao.
The weird thing is the Toronto media doesn't seem to care much! :D
*It is* pretty exciting to see what Matthews did.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 13, 2016, 05:21:15 PM
Winnipeg Jets @NHLJets
"It would be great to score the first goal, but two points for the team is more important to me." @PatrikLaine29 on his NHL debut.
Wow... is that a Finnish burn I see? Well played sir, well played...
::) Why so you have to always do that?
Quote from: Old Rusty on October 13, 2016, 06:18:21 PM
The weird thing is the Toronto media doesn't seem to care much! :D
*It is* pretty exciting to see what Matthews did.
I wouldn't care at all if I were a Leafs fan. The young talent on that team (Matthews, Nylander, Marner in particular) is very impressive. Pair it with the best coach in the league, and that team is poised to do some damage in the coming years. The Leafs might be the only team I'd be jealous of prospect wise as a Jets fan. I think the Jets are a little more well-rounded though.
The TO loss was typical! Mathews maybe a beast.
I hope Crosby comes back soon! Love that Sid. 8)
Quote from: Colton on October 13, 2016, 09:12:31 PM
I wouldn't care at all if I were a Leafs fan. The young talent on that team (Matthews, Nylander, Marner in particular) is very impressive. Pair it with the best coach in the league, and that team is poised to do some damage in the coming years. The Leafs might be the only team I'd be jealous of prospect wise as a Jets fan. I think the Jets are a little more well-rounded though.
Huh? Oilers, Hurricanes, Florida etc... All have a lot to say before u only list one team that gets coverage here and leafs from TSN. There is alot of greats prospects from other teams forming. How u came up with only those two.. Lol.
Quote from: Jersey on October 22, 2016, 03:46:35 AM
Huh? Oilers, Hurricanes, Florida etc... All have a lot to say before u only list one team that gets coverage here and leafs from TSN. There is alot of greats prospects from other teams forming. How u came up with only those two.. Lol.
What are you talking about? I'm saying the Leafs are #1, the Jets are #2. I'm not talking about any other team.
Quote from: Colton on October 24, 2016, 02:41:15 AM
What are you talking about? I'm saying the Leafs are #1, the Jets are #2. I'm not talking about any other team.
dont worry about it Jerseys just stick in his own little strange world again. I've lost respect for him.
He's in a same category as Ards now to me.
Quote from: Colton on October 24, 2016, 02:41:15 AM
What are you talking about? I'm saying the Leafs are #1, the Jets are #2. I'm not talking about any other team.
How do u gather #1 and 2 though... That's what I'm asking?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 24, 2016, 03:19:57 AM
dont worry about it Jerseys just stick in his own little strange world again. I've lost respect for him.
He's in a same category as Ards now to me.
How so? Can you not talk sports without needing bias. I think there are great young team's probably ahead of Oilers, Jets and leafs for Prospects alone. Oil r not deep in prospects..and I don't see it in Wpg either. Now we can all draw up our own conclusion, but it fact is there are team's right now using there prospects who have done well. It's a good thing, but if I don't just say how great jets r you are now upset. Don't be like that, enjoy the game. Trust me, as u guys love to say Oil sucked forever, made fun of em... I still loved talking nhl, watch all youngsters. That's what it's about watching growth of ur team, every organization will hit a hault, it happens in almost every sport. Win or lose Ur team is urs, but I choose to try and be realistic too. It's 6 games in, there is a entire season to play
Quote from: Jersey on October 24, 2016, 01:15:11 PM
How do u gather #1 and 2 though... That's what I'm asking?
Well, if you look into what most hockey experts and analysts say, that seems like the logic being applied.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 24, 2016, 01:42:03 PM
Well, if you look into what most hockey experts and analysts say, that seems like the logic being applied.
That was my thing, I don't put a lot into everything they say. It's TV. Or its to sell. Look how wrong they are on a lot.
I see Laine is the new Hull type of guy. Not flashy, not greatest of skaters, but get him into the slot or open room and watch him do damage. He's got a shot! I actually like Connor Halle as ur future tender. He needs a better D core, it's just not up to par, I'd know lol. Think of my team for all year's. Morrissey has been pretty good, it's long year but good start nonetheless. But Kyle Connor to thin, not ready, looks invisible. Armia I'm. Not sure I see much bit a 2 way 3rd liner, now you need those! Lowry for me is being wasted 4th line. He's not body that needs to be up there and help create room for younger kids on team. But other then guys I mentioned its very thin for my liking.
When you look around Florida, Carolina even Buffalo, some of their prospects are firing on all cylinders and look **** good. Yes leafs too and my Oil with Drai, McD, Nurse, Klefbom, Pitlick, benning next year will def be on this D, Davidson, Cagguila had great start but injured etc.. There is a lot out there and youth movement us coming and we are seeing the real benefit to certain team's, of course mixed with solid vets.
Quote from: Jersey on October 24, 2016, 02:04:53 PM
That was my thing, I don't put a lot into everything they say. It's TV. Or its to sell. Look how wrong they are on a lot.
I see Laine is the new Hull type of guy. Not flashy, not greatest of skaters, but get him into the slot or open room and watch him do damage. He's got a shot! I actually like Connor Halle as Ur future tender. He needs a better D core, it's just not up to par, I'd know lol. Think of my team for all year's. Morrissey has been pretty good, it's long yesr nut good start nonetheless. But Kyle Connor to thin, not ready, looks invisible. Armia I'm. Not sure I see much bit a 2 way 3rd liner, now you need those! Lowry for me is being wasted 4th line. He's not body that needs to be up there and help create room for younger kids on team. But other then guys I mentioned urs very thin
Uh, the Hockey News isn't TV. And it employs some of the best minds in the hockey world.
But the argument is prospect depth and talent. The Jets have that in spades but it takes time to develop it. It's not like these young players just enter the league all the same and immediately have a significant impact.
The biggest issues with the Jets through five games are defensive play and inconsistent play, and they are things which have affected the team negatively for the better part of the last five seasons. These are magnified when inexperience is added to the equation.
Definitely defense is a issue. But I don't see all these players in spades I truly don't. Now do you have some? FOR SURE imo. But it lacks imo for first line second line type.
Inexperience is definitely a factor, it has to be. Doesn't matter who ur 'expert' is... They did call for 2019 Stanley cup winner. Trust me they do type of things all time. It's just an opinion like urs or mine.
TSN had jets to be 3rd In wild card, Oilers 3rd last, CGY to make playoffs etc... Watch how these play out. It's always fun. You take it with grain of salt. Ex. In cfl, Look what idiot in ssk thought riders would be...2nd lol. it's platform they get donest mean they're right. I say you judge and watch these nhl team's your opinion would differ. I just think a lot of ppl don't watch other teams, so its more of unknown for them. Just my 2 cents. But enjoy, looooong year ahead. No one is in or out. So Dallas is next for ya. Go get em! For us its Washington. Oooh **** lol. Bit I like taking on good team's let's you know where u are.
Quote from: Jersey on October 24, 2016, 02:37:45 PM
Definitely defense is a issue. But I don't see all these players in spades I truly don't. Now do you have some? FOR SURE imo. But it lacks imo for first line second line type.
Inexperience is definitely a factor, it has to be. Doesn't matter who ur 'expert' is... They did call for 2019 Stanley cup winner. Trust me they do type of things all time. It's just an opinion like urs or mine.
TSN had jets to be 3rd In wild card, Oilers 3rd last, CGY to make playoffs etc... Watch how these play out. It's always fun. You take it with grain of salt. Ex. In cfl, Look what idiot in ssk thought riders would be...2nd lol. it's platform they get donest mean they're right. I say you judge and watch these nhl team's your opinion would differ. I just think a lot of ppl don't watch other teams, so its more of unknown for them. Just my 2 cents. But enjoy, looooong year ahead. No one is in or out. So Dallas is next for ya. Go get em! For us its Washington. Oooh **** lol. Bit I like taking on good team's let's you know where u are.
Its kinda funny you say this now about The Jets yet years past YOUR Oilers were horrible at D and in NET but you said nothing.
As to your opinion of The Jets kids and whats coming up is all fine... Its your opinion. If you don't think its any good that's kool. But as its been said and pointed out is actually people that work in the Hockey World that have been saying and pointing out that we have some really good all around talent.
My OPINION is we arnt so stupid to throw picks out into the fire to just fail and look stupid.
Oilers cant say that
Cheers
lol^^
I have said NUMEROUS times Oil didnt have the goaltender nor D, but last two years Oil have there tender. PC also just got here last year and has improved the team with strength, size and more over all balance. Oilers are now a team playing gap control on D and useing there sticks in lanes of shooting, its by far a huge over haul from what we seen. Playing more a 2-1-2 approach.
Yes the Oilers got 1st overall picks, and?? I don't understand your obsession about it? But truth be told I wouldn't talk to much because Jets could be in same boat for next cpl years. BTW, Oil where not supposed to even get 2 of those first over all picks but the ball came out on Oilers. So what do you want them to do? You know kinda like Laine... it's just the luck of the ball! Why don't you look at players like, Nurse, Draistial, Klefbom, Davidson, Pitlick, Cagguilea, Eberle, benning (up and comer for next year on D) etc.. these guys are all other picks and signs and they are OUR'S and even being the 1st over all's, they're still OUR's nobody else's. We didn't go out buying them. Now 2 first over all's are shipped out and Oilers have 2 left.
I just can't fathom what you think is so bad? Oilers like Pitts (Cros, malkin, Letang, fleury) had to be bad to get those players. Blackhawks, Seabrook, Towes, Kane. Now maybe they got out of it faster then Oilers, but every organization comes to a halt at some point. They will get better eventually. Jets made playoffs (once) and thought they had a team for future and had to scrap that with in ONE year! So, would you like to figure that out? Throwing stones at a organization when your's is no better makes no sense to me. You're the one that painted a picture of all these young kids in the other Jets thread and said how good everyone will be. I just tried to tell you when you're young you dont know what you got, proof is in the pudding you gotta wait and find out. NHL is different then ahl, whl or men's pro hockey and or over sea's. Ex. everyone jumped gun on Laine cuz he got a hatty vs terrible leafs. Let me put it this way. Sam Gagner scored record tying 8 points in a game vs the tough Blackhawks and you know what? It was just one game. He could never duplicate HALF that nor 25% of what he did that night on a regular basis. Players take time, but you need more then one game to define.
So instead of worrying so much about Oilers and there 4 first over all's they had, but only 2 remain...I'd worry about your own team. Trust me it's a loooong year. Oilers have a huge hill to climb and will have to prove to be a better team. Oilers are young and for me it was a "battle for a playoff spot year". Oil was not a team expected to make it by "experts" but if only that's what mattered. I don't go by all these experts. I watch hockey I understand the game. I played top level, Best Friend was a NHL'er (Joe Barnes) I played with top wpg boys of my age who are in the nhl (I was retired due to vision). I talk with my knowledge. Take it or leave it kinda approach, up to you. But i'm just giving you my honest opinion but go ahead throw stones at Oilers...if that's what makes you feel better. :) No matter what, for me....Let's Go Oilers (for most of you its GO JETS GO, no prob. Hope best for them, no hate towards them)! Oil are on the rise. Oh we will lose but then again that's just normal. You can cheer against Oilers tonight on sportsnet at 8:30pm :) Capitals @ Oilers, it'll be a great measuring stick for us.
Quote from: Jersey on October 26, 2016, 09:40:23 PM
lol^^
I have said NUMEROUS times Oil didnt have the goaltender nor D, but last two years Oil have there tender. PC also just got here last year and has improved the team with strength, size and more over all balance. Oilers are now a team playing gap control on D and useing there sticks in lanes of shooting, its by far a huge over haul from what we seen. Playing more a 2-1-2 approach.
Yes the Oilers got 1st overall picks, and?? I don't understand your obsession about it? But truth be told I wouldn't talk to much because Jets could be in same boat for next cpl years. BTW, Oil where not supposed to even get 2 of those first over all picks but the ball came out on Oilers. So what do you want them to do? You know kinda like Laine... it's just the luck of the ball! Why don't you look at players like, Nurse, Draistial, Klefbom, Davidson, Pitlick, Cagguilea, Eberle, benning (up and comer for next year on D) etc.. these guys are all other picks and signs and they are OUR'S and even being the 1st over all's, they're still OUR's nobody else's. We didn't go out buying them. Now 2 first over all's are shipped out and Oilers have 2 left.
I just can't fathom what you think is so bad? Oilers like Pitts (Cros, malkin, Letang, fleury) had to be bad to get those players. Blackhawks, Seabrook, Towes, Kane. Now maybe they got out of it faster then Oilers, but every organization comes to a halt at some point. They will get better eventually. Jets made playoffs (once) and thought they had a team for future and had to scrap that with in ONE year! So, would you like to figure that out? Throwing stones at a organization when your's is no better makes no sense to me. You're the one that painted a picture of all these young kids in the other Jets thread and said how good everyone will be. I just tried to tell you when you're young you dont know what you got, proof is in the pudding you gotta wait and find out. NHL is different then ahl, whl or men's pro hockey and or over sea's. Ex. everyone jumped gun on Laine cuz he got a hatty vs terrible leafs. Let me put it this way. Sam Gagner scored record tying 8 points in a game vs the tough Blackhawks and you know what? It was just one game. He could never duplicate HALF that nor 25% of what he did that night on a regular basis. Players take time, but you need more then one game to define.
So instead of worrying so much about Oilers and there 4 first over all's they had, but only 2 remain...I'd worry about your own team. Trust me it's a loooong year. Oilers have a huge hill to climb and will have to prove to be a better team. Oilers are young and for me it was a "battle for a playoff spot year". Oil was not a team expected to make it by "experts" but if only that's what mattered. I don't go by all these experts. I watch hockey I understand the game. I played top level, Best Friend was a NHL'er (Joe Barnes) I played with top wpg boys of my age who are in the nhl (I was retired due to vision). I talk with my knowledge. Take it or leave it kinda approach, up to you. But i'm just giving you my honest opinion but go ahead throw stones at Oilers...if that's what makes you feel better. :) No matter what, for me....Let's Go Oilers (for most of you its GO JETS GO, no prob. Hope best for them, no hate towards them)! Oil are on the rise. Oh we will lose but then again that's just normal. You can cheer against Oilers tonight on sportsnet at 8:30pm :) Capitals @ Oilers, it'll be a great measuring stick for us.
This is what you don't seem to understand. Your completely wrong here.
Nobody said THAT was the team that was going to go on and bring us a Cup.... Not anyone. Nor was that team scrapped. Its being built. Its called draft and develop an entire team.
Your Oilers didn't do that.... They sucked and drafted #1 forwards and thru them together hoping they'd do something good.
They sucked really bad till someone with a brain was hired and started trading some of them for D and goalies. Actually started building a team.
Ive not ever said any of our kids can just come in and play other then Liane. Its the Oilers if anything have learned the hard way that kids don't always turn out.
JM is a perfect example of what the Jets are trying to build.
And I don't care about your hockey knowledge because you played the game to a level.... I talk to guys all the time that have played above you that tell me .... They really have no clue about how things work out and or how players will work or develop. They just are worried about their own game.
I'm interested in what you say... But your no expert in teams depth anymore then any of us.
Linholm signs with Ducks. 6 years 5.25M AAV. This puts the Ducks 1.4M over the salary cap.
Quote from: JMT21 on October 27, 2016, 03:29:26 PM
Linholm signs with Ducks. 6 years 5.25M AAV. This puts the Ducks 1.4M over the salary cap.
They should be fine at the moment with their current injuries.
Quote from: JMT21 on October 27, 2016, 03:29:26 PM
Linholm signs with Ducks. 6 years 5.25M AAV. This puts the Ducks 1.4M over the salary cap.
Nice deal for both sides, IMO.
Is Trouba now the only remaining holdout?http://www.tsn.ca/ducks-sign-d-lindholm-to-six-year-deal-1.593569 (http://www.tsn.ca/ducks-sign-d-lindholm-to-six-year-deal-1.593569)
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Winnipeg Jets defenceman Jacob Trouba is now the only remaining unsigned restricted free-agent.
Nice steal for the Ducks ........ would be a quality signing if Trouba accepts that, or maybe up to $5.5M, from the Jets.
Stamkos could miss 4-6 months with knee injury:
http://www.tsn.ca/stamkos-could-miss-4-6-months-with-knee-injury-1.609795 (http://www.tsn.ca/stamkos-could-miss-4-6-months-with-knee-injury-1.609795)
Man, he's had a rough go the last few seasons.
Lots of big names out around the league through roughly 1/4 of the season... Yikes.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 17, 2016, 03:53:00 PM
Stamkos could miss 4-6 months with knee injury:
http://www.tsn.ca/stamkos-could-miss-4-6-months-with-knee-injury-1.609795 (http://www.tsn.ca/stamkos-could-miss-4-6-months-with-knee-injury-1.609795)
Man, he's had a rough go the last few seasons.
Lots of big names out around the league through roughly 1/4 of the season... Yikes.
Ya its been a crazy year. I think with Stamkos out for that long its really going to hurt Tampa. Cal could also be in trouble.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on November 17, 2016, 04:44:02 PM
Ya its been a crazy year. I think with Stamkos out for that long its really going to hurt Tampa. Cal could also be in trouble.
I'd agree but the Bolts have been here before (2013-14) and are a better team this season. I doubt they miss a beat this season even in his absence.
The Flames are off to a terrible start.
Either Stammer is made if glass or he over trains. Either way he gets these big leg injuries to often.
Brent Burns gets paid:
http://www.tsn.ca/burns-sharks-agree-to-eight-year-deal-1.614211 (http://www.tsn.ca/burns-sharks-agree-to-eight-year-deal-1.614211)
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Sharks have agreed to eight year deal with Brent Burns believe to be worth around $8 M a year on average
? Pierre LeBrun (@Real_ESPNLeBrun) November 22, 2016
That's a lotta scratch!
Don't care at all about the later years of this deal. Seeing Burns play for any other team in the next 5 years was my absolute worst nightmare.
Quote from: Colton on November 22, 2016, 08:56:01 PM
Don't care at all about the later years of this deal. Seeing Burns play for any other team in the next 5 years was my absolute worst nightmare.
It's quite a top-heavy contract according to LeBrun who was on H&L this afternoon: $40M for the first four seasons, $14M for seasons 5 & 6, and $5M per for the final two.
This is a great signing for both parties and having him on the Sharks blueline for the remainder of his career is huge.
Pretty lacklustre introduction of the 31st franchise: the Vegan Golden Knights.
http://www.tsn.ca/vegas-golden-knights-introduced-as-nhl-s-31st-franchise-1.614604 (http://www.tsn.ca/vegas-golden-knights-introduced-as-nhl-s-31st-franchise-1.614604)
(http://l.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/IFa7lqpuVvGTAjg1HG1PNw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NzQ0O2g9NDc2/http://media.zenfs.com/en/homerun/feed_manager_auto_publish_494/d645dea36e23f093cd5e6f61c55eb87c)
The name is underwhelming, IMO, but the main logo is clean and sharp. Not sure what to make of the star/sword logo, though. I'm interested to see what the jerseys will look like.
The logo is fine, if unoriginal.
The name seems a bit encumbered.
Quote from: Jesse on November 23, 2016, 05:06:44 PM
The logo is fine, if unoriginal.
The name seems a bit encumbered.
You're being too nice
I like it. Looks good!
A pretty interesting read regarding the Golden Knights and the expansion draft:
http://www.tsn.ca/vegas-isn-t-getting-a-lot-for-500m-1.615117 (http://www.tsn.ca/vegas-isn-t-getting-a-lot-for-500m-1.615117)
Seems to be a contrast between Foley and McPhee in terms of their views and what it'll take to build a solid franchise. I think the latter has a better handle on it, to be honest.
Quote from: Jesse on November 23, 2016, 05:06:44 PM
The logo is fine, if unoriginal.
The name seems a bit encumbered.
Kinda think its kool.
Its awesome how they made the helmet have a V in it and it looks like a Knights helmet.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on November 24, 2016, 12:01:17 AM
Kinda think its kool.
Its awesome how they made the helmet have a V in it and it looks like a Knights helmet.
It is cool, which is why it's been done a butt load of times before.
The "Vegas Knights" will not be an "encumbered" name.
Remember the "Anaheim Mighty Ducks" with their stupid logo and silly name? Now the Anaheim Ducks...
or the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim?
Vegas Knights will be a very good name, and the logos are clean and sharp. And the promotional tie ins are excellent...
Knight Life in Vegas? Come for the Knights? Parading the players out as the "Hot Knights in Vegas"...
And can you imagine the mascot / promo items? Big foam swords, foam helmets...
Absolutely makes sense, and the "golden" is just there to assuage the London Knights....
Mighty Ducks > Ducks (almost as lame as the New Orleans Pelicans)
And that Mighty Ducks logo was original and fun, even more so when you compare it to the ugly, boring D logo the team uses now.
With regard to the teams with knights in their name, London Knights have the better logo:
(http://chl-wordpress-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/app/uploads/londonknights/londonknights.png)
By faaaar better logo
Great race in our division. Colt I hope u guys win today. F the ducks lol.
Columbus young guns are just sic. That team is so awesome to watch, I'm rooting for them in East. Fast pace, exciting team. They have perfect breakouts
Quote from: Jersey on November 26, 2016, 03:11:36 PM
Great race in our division. Colt I hope u guys win today. F the ducks lol.
Columbus young guns are just sic. That team is so awesome to watch, I'm rooting for them in East. Fast pace, exciting team. They have perfect breakouts
Werenski is top end talent. Despite winning both matchups, I'm glad we don't have Columbus on the schedule for the rest of the season.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/army-reviewing-vegas-golden-knights-name-233841897.html (https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/army-reviewing-vegas-golden-knights-name-233841897.html)
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...the Vegas Golden Knights name has caught the attention of the United States military because a parachute team goes by the same name."
Alison Bettencourt, a spokeswoman for the Army Marketing and Research Group in Arlington, Virginia was quoted in the story as saying, "We're reviewing the situation and figuring out what the way ahead would be."
The Golden Knights are based in Fort Bragg and have used this name since the 1960s.
"We understand that one of the Las Vegas team owners (Bill Foley) has Army connections, and will likely understand our interest in this announcement is meant to protect the proud history of the Army's Golden Knights and their vital role in telling the Army story and connecting America with their Army," said Bettencourt, who noted the group learned of the Golden Knights through media accounts last Wednesday.
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What could this mean? Well they could dispute the trademark arguing that the similar name, color scheme and that both logos use a knights helmet might cause some to believe the two are associated. If you believe a reasonable person could mistake one Golden Knights with another then that?d be enough grounds for a decent legal challenge.
If the team were forced to change their name, it?d likely be as simple as just changing the "Golden" for "Desert" or "Silver" as their logo would just as well for either.
Interesting development.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 29, 2016, 02:38:28 PM
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/army-reviewing-vegas-golden-knights-name-233841897.html (https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/army-reviewing-vegas-golden-knights-name-233841897.html)
Interesting development.
Becasue there is a lot for the Vegas Golden Knights to gain from the implied association with a parachute team. That's like me opening McDonalds Nail Salon to take advantage of the golden arches...
I can't see any court in the land deciding in the parachute teams favour. There just isn't any logical connection.
But I can see the Vegas franchise offering some cross promotion opportunities, and some additional support of the military, which would be mutually beneficial.
Quote from: theaardvark on November 29, 2016, 04:02:50 PM
Becasue there is a lot for the Vegas Golden Knights to gain from the implied association with a parachute team. That's like me opening McDonalds Nail Salon to take advantage of the golden arches...
I can't see any court in the land deciding in the parachute teams favour. There just isn't any logical connection.
But I can see the Vegas franchise offering some cross promotion opportunities, and some additional support of the military, which would be mutually beneficial.
Keep in mind it's Murica. People down there take legal action on all sorts of things as though it were a bodily function. And also remember the status of the military there, too. Your comparison is a silly one with no parallel whatsoever.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 29, 2016, 05:12:34 PM
Keep in mind it's Murica. People down there take legal action on all sorts of things as though it were a bodily function. And also remember the status of the military there, too. Your comparison is a silly one with no parallel whatsoever.
There is no connection between Pro Hockey and a military drill team. Like there is no connection between a restaurant and a nail salon.
Yes, people take legal action over nothing. But we're talking military vs. private sector. A little different situation. And I can see a little cross promotion (having the Golden Knights parachute team drop in on a Vegas home game) being all that it will take to make this go away...
Quote from: theaardvark on November 29, 2016, 05:22:45 PM
There is no connection between Pro Hockey and a military drill team. Like there is no connection between a restaurant and a nail salon.
Yes, people take legal action over nothing. But we're talking military vs. private sector. A little different situation. And I can see a little cross promotion (having the Golden Knights parachute team drop in on a Vegas home game) being all that it will take to make this go away...
You think cross promotion is the answer when the whole issue is that the military does not want people making the leap that the two entities are associated?
... okay then.
Quote from: theaardvark on November 29, 2016, 05:22:45 PM
There is no connection between Pro Hockey and a military drill team. Like there is no connection between a restaurant and a nail salon.
Yes, people take legal action over nothing. But we're talking military vs. private sector. A little different situation. And I can see a little cross promotion (having the Golden Knights parachute team drop in on a Vegas home game) being all that it will take to make this go away...
I guess you didn't bother to read the article.
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Foley had previously said that he was initially partial to Black Knights based on his military heritage as a West Point graduate, but got "pushback" from the Army and immediately moved on. Also, Foley noted that Black Knights wasn't exactly the first choice of the team?s prospective fans. Foley had registered Desert Knights and Silver Knights along with Golden Knights as possible team names.
Maybe read this after reading the previous article I posted: http://www.fayobserver.com/military/army-officials-to-review-hockey-team-s-use-of-golden/article_7aa74a76-40cb-5c02-9a8e-886468bd743f.html (http://www.fayobserver.com/military/army-officials-to-review-hockey-team-s-use-of-golden/article_7aa74a76-40cb-5c02-9a8e-886468bd743f.html)
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"We understand that one of the Las Vegas team owners has Army connections, and will likely understand our interest in this announcement is meant to protect the proud history of the Army's Golden Knights and their vital role in telling the Army story and connecting America with their Army," Bettencourt said.
Military vs. private sector has absolutely nothing to do with it, either.
Quote from: theaardvark on November 29, 2016, 05:22:45 PM
There is no connection between Pro Hockey and a military drill team. Like there is no connection between a restaurant and a nail salon.
Yes, people take legal action over nothing. But we're talking military vs. private sector. A little different situation. And I can see a little cross promotion (having the Golden Knights parachute team drop in on a Vegas home game) being all that it will take to make this go away...
You do know Hockeys played indoors right?
Good read:
http://www.tsn.ca/holland-on-increasing-offence-and-expanding-playoff-races-1.624232 (http://www.tsn.ca/holland-on-increasing-offence-and-expanding-playoff-races-1.624232)
More scoring is always more entertaining than not, IMO.
Taylor Hall drops a heck of a hit to Larson. Check was clean, however the behaviour and absolute mindlessness reaction of both teams disgusts me. Watching Larson get kicked in the head, skate blades millimetres from his exposed neck/face was sickening to watch. Thankfully a teammate finally woke up and tried to shield Larkin's body from the scrum.
Quote from: BomberPride on December 07, 2016, 02:00:37 PM
Taylor Hall drops a heck of a hit to Larson. Check was clean, however the behaviour and absolute mindlessness reaction of both teams disgusts me. Watching Larson get kicked in the head, skate blades millimetres from his exposed neck/face was sickening to watch. Thankfully a teammate finally woke up and tried to shield Larkin's body from the scrum.
Very Scott Stevens like... and Larsen had his "head down". I wonder if Don Cherry will have this front and centre this week, or if they will ask him not to...
Listening to 1290 this morning, and the whole fighting vs. jobs debate was silly. There are the same number of jobs with or without fighting. Its just that we end up with a developing skill player getting a roster spot rather than a guy who is borderline NHL calibre but can drop the gloves (Thorburn, Peluso).
Sure, players feel more secure when you have a nuclear option waiting to go off, but take away all nuclear weapons and make an even playing field, and everyone is safer.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 24, 2016, 02:30:53 PM
Mighty Ducks > Ducks (almost as lame as the New Orleans Pelicans)
And that Mighty Ducks logo was original and fun, even more so when you compare it to the ugly, boring D logo the team uses now.
With regard to the teams with knights in their name, London Knights have the better logo:
(http://chl-wordpress-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/app/uploads/londonknights/londonknights.png)
My 0.02, the London Knights logo is an order of magnitude cooler - if "cool" could be quantified.
Oh my.......
http://www.tsn.ca/vegas-golden-knights-trademark-denied-by-u-s-government-1.626523
Quote from: ModAdmin on December 08, 2016, 05:17:25 AM
Oh my.......
http://www.tsn.ca/vegas-golden-knights-trademark-denied-by-u-s-government-1.626523
Pretty sure this means nothing.
Common name! Perhaps Vegas could tweak the moniker... silver knights, portly knights, platinum knights, molybdenum knights, black knights (its just a flesh wound), chartreuse knights ;D
Quote from: Old Rusty on December 08, 2016, 12:45:04 PM
Common name! Perhaps Vegas could tweak the moniker... silver knights, portly knights, platinum knights, molybdenum knights, black knights (its just a flesh wound), chartreuse knights ;D
Dark Knights? Could use the bat signal as their logo, and shine it into the Vegas sky after a win. No trademark issue there!
Should've just gone with Aces.
If you read the article, it says they do not anticipate it to be an issue... there are a number of pro sport and college teams with identical names, and no "confusion".
The main point of the issue is that the new use of a logo/trademark would be taking advantage of the previous user's investment in the branding. Not sure an NCAA div II school can argue that idea about a pro sports franchise...
It is not a simple thing to be successful on a trademark application when another business or organization in the same category has a history of using a name or mark. The college may come to some sort of an agreement with the Vegas team but when they do that, they weaken their position on future applications. I've been involved is such issues.
Big City Knights? That distinguishes them from sleepy London. Although they may have legal issues with the Klaus Meine and the Scorpions. :)
With his two goals in the Centennial Classic yesterday, Matthews now leads the NHL in rookie scoring.
The race for the Calder has sure heated up recently.
Laine was really heating up before the Buffalo game. More to the point, the ESL line was heating up.
Looking forward to a speedy recovery for Laine.
2017 All-Star Game selections:
https://www.nhl.com/news/sergei-bobrovsky-auston-matthews-among-nhlcoms-all-star-picks/c-285464570?tid=277549086 (https://www.nhl.com/news/sergei-bobrovsky-auston-matthews-among-nhlcoms-all-star-picks/c-285464570?tid=277549086)
Quote from: Old Rusty on January 10, 2017, 03:38:51 PM
Laine was really heating up before the Buffalo game. More to the point, the ESL line was heating up.
Looking forward to a speedy recovery for Laine.
ESL? SEL? LES?
Scheifele is American, so ESL really doesn't fit him, although it does for the other two ;)
SEL? If they were a little more Salty, sure...
LES? If LES is MORE, then sure...
THis line will be here for a while, we need to come up with a catchy name for them. ESL isn't it...
Quote from: theaardvark on January 10, 2017, 05:31:02 PM
ESL? SEL? LES?
Scheifele is American, so ESL really doesn't fit him, although it does for the other two ;)
SEL? If they were a little more Salty, sure...
LES? If LES is MORE, then sure...
THis line will be here for a while, we need to come up with a catchy name for them. ESL isn't it...
Not sure what the hell I just read but you think Scheifele is American...? Since when is Kitchener,
ONTARIO part of another country? ???
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2017, 06:08:38 PM
Not sure what the hell I just read but you think Scheifele is American...? Since when is Kitchener, ONTARIO part of another country? ???
North American... ;)
Keep getting confused on nationalities, so many of our new recruits are American. Sorry MS, thanks for being a good Canadian...
Quote from: theaardvark on January 10, 2017, 06:12:53 PM
North American... ;)
Keep getting confused on nationalities, so many of our new recruits are American. Sorry MS, thanks for being a good Canadian...
That's a pretty feeble excuse - especially when you actually look at the roster(s). How hard is it to do a Google search? ::)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2017, 06:25:02 PM
That's a pretty feeble excuse - especially when you actually look at the roster(s). How hard is it to do a Google search? ::)
Wow... if you want to go that deep into it... the point had nothing to do with his actual nationality, instead to do with his mother tongue. ESL (English as a Second Language) does not apply to him, being from a country that has English as a native tongue. And we have a large number of Americans on our roster, so many that I made a mistake on Mr 55's nationality in my posting. It was not a point that required a roster scan or google search, just a reference to his mother tongue.
I have apologized to Mr 55 for calling him American, lets move along.
Good read on Ovechkin, who surpassed the man whose trophy he's won a record six times:
http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-ovechkin-an-all-time-sniper-1.647349 (http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-ovechkin-an-all-time-sniper-1.647349)
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Washington Capitals sniper Alex Ovechkin scored a goal and added two assists in a 4-1 win at Montreal. The goal was Ovechkin?s 544th of his career, tying him with Habs legend Maurice Richard for 29th all-time.
Ovechkin is just 31-years-old, though, so his goal production isn?t done, and he?s been scoring like this in an era of far fewer goals per game.
But, using adjusted goal totals, Ovechkin already ranks 11th while playing 878 games.
On an adjusted goals per game basis, Ovechkin holds the lead among all scorers that have at least 500 adjusted goals.
Impressive.
Report regarding the transition from Reebok to Adidas for next season:
http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/report-no-alternate-jerseys-next-season-as-adidas-takes-over-nhl-uniforms (http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/report-no-alternate-jerseys-next-season-as-adidas-takes-over-nhl-uniforms)
It's being discussed in the Jets thread but it's a topic which affects the entire league, so it seemed practical to post in this thread.
Pacific division is toughest in West by Loooong shot. Can team's start losing, I want a bigger gap
Quote from: Jersey on January 15, 2017, 01:20:46 PM
Pacific division is toughest in West by Loooong shot. Can team's start losing, I want a bigger gap
How do you figure that? ???
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 15, 2017, 05:22:29 PM
How do you figure that? ???
Ahh take a good look at statistics. Pacific is beating central no problem. They own 5 playoff spots. And it's a freaking nightmare when a team loses.
Quote from: Jersey on January 16, 2017, 10:49:48 PM
Ahh take a good look at statistics. Pacific is beating central no problem. They own 5 playoff spots. And it's a freaking nightmare when a team loses.
I did. I still don't get your logic, much less the claim it's the Pacific by a long shot. :-\
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 16, 2017, 10:57:11 PM
I did. I still don't get your logic, much less the claim it's the Pacific by a long shot. :-\
The Pacific playoff teams are far more competitive and sustainable than the Central teams. Anaheim, San Jose, Edmonton, LA are teams with a legit shot in the West, whereas outside of Chicago in the Central you have the unsustainable Wild and a Blues team that's never going to accomplish anything with their core of players.
In the Pacific the only true garbage team is Arizona with Vancouver on the brink of garbage, whereas in the Central Colorado, Winnipeg, Dallas, and Nashville are all hopeless.
Quote from: Colton on January 16, 2017, 11:45:43 PM
The Pacific playoff teams are far more competitive and sustainable than the Central teams. Anaheim, San Jose, Edmonton, LA are teams with a legit shot in the West, whereas outside of Chicago in the Central you have the unsustainable Wild and a Blues team that's never going to accomplish anything with their core of players.
In the Pacific the only true garbage team is Arizona with Vancouver on the brink of garbage, whereas in the Central Colorado, Winnipeg, Dallas, and Nashville are all hopeless.
In what way are they more competitive and/or sustainable? I don't see how the Wild or the Blues are unsustainable. Both teams have demonstrated consistency this season and are competing for a playoff spot. The Wild are one of the hottest teams in the league the last 20 games or so. Not sure how Nashville is somehow more hopeless than Vancouver, either. Nashville's a point out of a wildcard spot with games in hand on both Calgary and LA.
Are there some advanced statistics to suggest the Pacific is more competitive by - and I quote - a "long shot"...?
If you hadn't notice Pacific team's have beat up on central a lot more. Out of top 10 spots Pacific controls 8 spots. I just see Pacific being faster and tougher team's to boot.
Colton can you guys stop winning, gosh!! It's rude lol. What oilers are doing is fun. I'd love 3rd in division, i still stick with sj or ANA is getting top 2. But being 3rd youngest team in NHL at 25.8 years old and to be hanging in there has been nothing but joyable. Clb, 25. 2 youngest in NHL. Amazing what they're doing, great for them! Toronto at 25.7. Carolina 25.9 4th oldest with Buffalo rounding out top 5 at 26.2. All those teams are on the rise and being top 5 youngest In nhl. Pretty remarkable.
Islanders fire Capuano, Weight takes over in interim:
http://www.tsn.ca/islanders-fire-capuano-weight-named-interim-head-coach-1.652257 (http://www.tsn.ca/islanders-fire-capuano-weight-named-interim-head-coach-1.652257)
Not a surprising move considering how poor the team has played this season.
Quote from: Jersey on January 17, 2017, 02:17:37 PM
If you hadn't notice Pacific team's have beat up on central a lot more. Out of top 10 spots Pacific controls 8 spots. I just see Pacific being faster and tougher team's to boot.
Colton can you guys stop winning, gosh!! It's rude lol. What oilers are doing is fun. I'd love 3rd in division, i still stick with sj or ANA is getting top 2. But being 3rd youngest team in NHL at 25.8 years old and to be hanging in there has been nothing but joyable. Clb, 25. 2 youngest in NHL. Amazing what they're doing, great for them! Toronto at 25.7. Carolina 25.9 4th oldest with Buffalo rounding out top 5 at 26.2. All those teams are on the rise and being top 5 youngest In nhl. Pretty remarkable.
Currently the youngest team is the Jets. Followed up by Buff, Canes, Tor, CBJ and then Oilers.
And Imo, I don't think there is much difference between the top 3 teams in both divisions. Then you have LA who are slightly better than the "currently" struggling Preds & Stars. Then the Flames, Canucks & Jets in the next group, with the Jets having the most potential going forward. And then you have the Avs & Ariz involved in a re-build.
If I had to pick the 8 playoff teams right now I'd go with...
Minn - Chi - St.L
Ana - SJ - LA
WC - Edm - Nash
Conf Final - Chicago v Anaheim
*IF the Jets get Laine & Myers back right after the ASB, I think they'll end up finishing 9th in the conference just ahead of Dallas & Calgary.
With regards to sustainability - its anyone's guess although I do like the chances of the Jets & the Oilers becoming the big dogs in the conference in a few yrs.
Quote from: Nic16 on January 17, 2017, 10:17:13 PM
Currently the youngest team is the Jets. Followed up by Buff, Canes, Tor, CBJ and then Oilers.
And Imo, I don't think there is much difference between the top 3 teams in both divisions. Then you have LA who are slightly better than the "currently" struggling Preds & Stars. Then the Flames, Canucks & Jets in the next group, with the Jets having the most potential going forward. And then you have the Avs & Ariz involved in a re-build.
If I had to pick the 8 playoff teams right now I'd go with...
Minn - Chi - St.L
Ana - SJ - LA
WC - Edm - Nash
Conf Final - Chicago v Anaheim
*IF the Jets get Laine & Myers back right after the ASB, I think they'll end up finishing 9th in the conference just ahead of Dallas & Calgary.
With regards to sustainability - its anyone's guess although I do like the chances of the Jets & the Oilers becoming the big dogs in the conference in a few yrs.
where do you see your avg age stats? because i just gave the actual avg. age by TEAM'S. Jets are not youngest!
Quote from: Jersey on January 18, 2017, 12:01:43 AM
where do you see your avg age stats? because i just gave the actual avg. age by TEAM'S. Jets are not youngest!
"Current" being the key word...
http://www.quanthockey.com/TS/TS_AverageAge.php (http://www.quanthockey.com/TS/TS_AverageAge.php)
Quote from: Nic16 on January 18, 2017, 01:12:35 AM
"Current" being the key word...
http://www.quanthockey.com/TS/TS_AverageAge.php (http://www.quanthockey.com/TS/TS_AverageAge.php)
That's a solid resource. Thanks for sharing!
Quote from: Nic16 on January 18, 2017, 01:12:35 AM
"Current" being the key word...
http://www.quanthockey.com/TS/TS_AverageAge.php (http://www.quanthockey.com/TS/TS_AverageAge.php)
That's not current. Oilers avg. Is 25.8 as previously mentioned with few youngins brought up slepyshev at 22, Davidson 25, khaira 22, brossoit 23. Oilers would be younger if Pitlick and nurse did not get hurt. Altho Nurse should be back before playoffs and he's only 21.
There is a much better current site then one u posted. Unless it's just slow on updates... It's also been reported on TSN only week ago CBJackets are THY youngest in NHL.
Quote from: Jersey on January 18, 2017, 02:57:55 PM
That's not current. Oilers avg. Is 25.8 as previously mentioned with few youngins brought up slepyshev at 22, Davidson 25, khaira 22, brossoit 23. Oilers would be younger if Pitlick and nurse did not get hurt. Altho Nurse should be back before playoffs and he's only 21.
There is a much better current site then one u posted. Unless it's just slow on updates... It's also been reported on TSN only week ago CBJackets are THY youngest in NHL.
There is a "much" better current site, but yet you didn't post it...???
Bottom line is the age of a team fluctuates thru-out the year and the actual differences between the younger teams in the NHL is nothing worth quibbling about. Besides, I've seen your many lengthy debates on fan noise comparisons, so I'm putting the cell down. lol
Go Jets Go!
Quote from: Nic16 on January 18, 2017, 03:59:14 PM
There is a "much" better current site, but yet you didn't post it...???
Bottom line is the age of a team fluctuates thru-out the year and the actual differences between the younger teams in the NHL is nothing worth quibbling about. Besides, I've seen your many lengthy debates on fan noise comparisons, so I'm putting the cell down. lol
Go Jets Go!
True it is very close in age for sure! Yes, MTScenter is library these days ;) Rogers Place Loud n' proud wait till playoffs babyyyyyyyyyyyyy
LMAO :D
Quote from: Jersey on January 18, 2017, 06:10:35 PM
True it is very close in age for sure! Yes, MTScenter is library these days ;) Rogers Place Loud n' proud wait till playoffs babyyyyyyyyyyyyy
LMFAO :D
you are correct about the MTS centre these days. Knowing cares about the Rogers whatever in Edmonton.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 18, 2017, 11:40:43 PM
you are correct about the MTS centre these days. Knowing cares about the Rogers whatever in Edmonton.
But I do!! Oh I count! :P
Quote from: Jersey on January 18, 2017, 06:10:35 PM
True it is very close in age for sure! Yes, MTScenter is library these days ;) Rogers Place Loud n' proud wait till playoffs babyyyyyyyyyyyyy
LMAO :D
Ten years of last place, I'd hope people would be a bit excited.
MTS Centre was pretty loud last night.
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 19, 2017, 12:29:07 PM
Ten years of last place, I'd hope people would be a bit excited.
Jets fans are slowly learning what it's like to miss playoffs almost on yearly basis themselves. Not fun.
But a change at top had righted the ship right thru to the roster. It's finally fun again to be oil Country. Rogers Place is really electric as of late. It's been quite until NYEve game all of a sudden atmosphere has picked up. Oil fans have always been one of loudest playoff crowds Rival wpg or old chi stadium. It'll be interesting to see how Rogers Place is come playoffs, sounding good right now!!
#SurgeOfOrange
Coyotes send F Duclair to AHL:
http://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-assign-struggling-f-duclair-to-ahl-1.654314 (http://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-assign-struggling-f-duclair-to-ahl-1.654314)
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In an attempt to spark struggling forward Anthony Duclair, the Arizona Coyotes have assigned the 21-year-old to the AHL's Tucson Roadrunners.
Duclair scored 20 goals and added 24 assists in the 81 games last season, his first with the Coyotes.
However, the Pointe-Claire, QC. native has struggled in 41 games this season, scoring just three goals and a total of nine points. His shooting percentage has dropped from 19 per cent to five per cent.
F MacArthur ruled out for balance of regular season:
http://www.tsn.ca/sens-rule-out-macarthur-for-season-1.654322 (http://www.tsn.ca/sens-rule-out-macarthur-for-season-1.654322)
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Clarke MacArthur will not play again this season, the Ottawa Senators announced Friday.
MacArthur, 31, has not played this season due to post-concussion syndrome.
MacArthur suffered a fourth concussion in 18 months during training camp this season. He last played a game on Oct. 14, 2015, when he suffered a concussion against the Columbus Blue Jackets.
Really unfortunate news. His career could very well be over.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 20, 2017, 01:30:07 PM
F MacArthur ruled out for balance of regular season:
http://www.tsn.ca/sens-rule-out-macarthur-for-season-1.654322 (http://www.tsn.ca/sens-rule-out-macarthur-for-season-1.654322)
Really unfortunate news. His career could very well be over.
Ugh it's terrible. I had one it lasted 6 Months and I have side effects for ever now. I hate hearing that word for anyone now. It can be very dark times. Prayers to him
Henrik Sedin reaches 1,000 career points:
http://www.tsn.ca/henrik-sedin-records-1-000th-point-as-canucks-down-panthers-1.655033 (http://www.tsn.ca/henrik-sedin-records-1-000th-point-as-canucks-down-panthers-1.655033)
Oilers have improved to 17-5-6 🆚 west this season. 😎 second most goals in west behind Minnie!
But SJSharks and Ducks still class of Pacific for us. They're going to get 1 and 2 spots but we are definitely on our way to challenging them. It's great battle!!
Rogers Place soon to be loudest unique atmosphere in the NHL. With the Resurrection of the team, Oilers fan base has now set a chant page up and are bringing European type chants to the game. This fan group has been all over radio and tv for the new atmosphere they are slowly creating in time for the playoffs! Nickname EO7 Edmonton Oilers 7 (meaning 7th man on ice) They will bring player chants, team chants etc... After being lousy for years and crowd not being able to cheer, new generation and era has begun! They had thousands chanting in cgy at saddledome after another sweep of a west team.
Senators acquire F Wingels from Sharks:
http://www.tsn.ca/senators-acquire-wingels-from-sharks-1.657131 (http://www.tsn.ca/senators-acquire-wingels-from-sharks-1.657131)
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The Ottawa Senators have acquired forward Tommy Wingels from the San Jose Sharks in exchange for Buddy Robinson, Zack Stortini, and a seventh-round pick in 2017.
As part of the trade, the Sharks will retain 30 percent of Wingels' 2016-17 salary.
Sucks, but Labanc and Timo are too important to send down. Alright player but more importantly a grade A human. Hope he can find his way on to a team with more promise sooner or later.
OK Colton
Oilers VS Sharks tonight. I'm worried lol.
Game is so laaaaate how do u stay up?
I wonder how many games Marchand will get for his slewfoot on Kronwall the other night.
Seemed like he had turned a corner as a player.
Quote from: Jersey on January 26, 2017, 01:29:26 PM
OK Colton
Oilers VS Sharks tonight. I'm worried lol.
Game is so laaaaate how do u stay up?
It's routine by now. I'm also typically up until 3-4 most nights anyways so it's never been an issue for me.
Quote from: Colton on January 26, 2017, 03:04:39 PM
It's routine by now. I'm also typically up until 3-4 most nights anyways so it's never been an issue for me.
Oh wow! I don't mind being up 9 but ugh I feels like forever start
Can u believe Vancouver!? I gotta think LA is gonna take 8th but maybe not Canucks are doing wonders with what they got. Sheesh
Avalanche shut down G Varlamov for season:
http://www.tsn.ca/avs-shut-down-varlamov-for-rest-of-season-1.658466 (http://www.tsn.ca/avs-shut-down-varlamov-for-rest-of-season-1.658466)
That team needs a complete teardown.
Quote from: Jersey on January 26, 2017, 03:17:35 PM
Oh wow! I don't mind being up 9 but ugh I feels like forever start
Can u believe Vancouver!? I gotta think LA is gonna take 8th but maybe not Canucks are doing wonders with what they got. Sheesh
Tanev is a top tier defensive defenseman. Someone compiled some stats with Tanev in and out of the lineup this year (At the time, I believe it was an even 24/24 game split) and the numbers were drastically different. Obviously not the only factor but he has a huge impact.
Wow. Yeah that team proves even u don't got all skill they have a hard system defensively. They're playing so good in their own end. And Vancouver always plays oilers tough. Greeeeat. Hah. Markstrom tho 👍
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 26, 2017, 02:15:18 PM
I wonder how many games Marchand will get for his slewfoot on Kronwall the other night.
Seemed like he had turned a corner as a player.
And nothing but a lame fine:
http://www.tsn.ca/marchand-fined-10k-for-trip-on-kronwall-1.658614 (http://www.tsn.ca/marchand-fined-10k-for-trip-on-kronwall-1.658614)
Very poor decision to give Marchand a paltry fine .......... chump change (cliche but appropriate)
Canadiens acquire D Nesterov:
http://www.tsn.ca/canadiens-acquire-d-nesterov-from-lightning-1.658900 (http://www.tsn.ca/canadiens-acquire-d-nesterov-from-lightning-1.658900)
Nice depth piece for the Habs.
In other news, it doesn't sound like the NHL is going to budge on the 2018 Winter Olympics:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-owners-remain-cool-on-olympic-participation-1.658828 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-owners-remain-cool-on-olympic-participation-1.658828)
Money talks, especially in pro sports.
Brent Burns 51 points as a Defensemen. Unbelievable!!!!!! 4th in points. He can do it all.
Quote from: Jersey on January 29, 2017, 02:06:02 PM
Brent Burns 51 points as a Defensemen. Unbelievable!!!!!! 4th in points. He can do it all.
terrific results
Quote from: Jersey on January 29, 2017, 02:06:02 PM
Brent Burns 51 points as a Defensemen. Unbelievable!!!!!! 4th in points. He can do it all.
I've already said it in this very thread but Burns is an absolute beauty on and off the ice. I'm so happy we signed him to max years. I don't care whatsoever if he becomes an anchor in the last few years of that deal, it's absolutely worth it to have him signed here for the next 3-5. He'll easily be my favourite NHLer once Jumbo and Patty retire.
You're not kidding. See to me he is what I call a true offensive D-man. He is the coffey of our generation. Guy free wheels can pass, shoot, score and SKATE!! I wish we can have a D like him someday, half of what he can produce.
Oilers need a winger for Pouilot. If not this year for TDDay that'll hurt us, next year forsure I can see them looking. He's got tone of heat on him. That position has to be fixed.
Davidson is good stop gap for injury but overall not good enough.. Nurse should be back Marchish but he's young, he'll be exposed playoffs. Will just have to let him grow. He's taken big step this year from last but injury for months could hamper ho's game :( hope not.
And back up goalie. Yikes. We are the weakest In this area for any playoff team.
Rumor was keep a eye on sharp to Oilers. i wish cuz od write off pouilot then haha
Islanders re-sign G Greiss to three-year, $10M extension:
http://www.tsn.ca/isles-sign-greiss-to-three-year-extension-1.661167 (http://www.tsn.ca/isles-sign-greiss-to-three-year-extension-1.661167)
And the Rangers have reportedly given HC Vigneault an extension:
http://www.tsn.ca/report-rangers-sign-vigneault-to-two-year-extension-1.661244 (http://www.tsn.ca/report-rangers-sign-vigneault-to-two-year-extension-1.661244)
A number of players recently have spoken out regarding the 2018 Olympics and believe they should be able to participate. I really hope we get to see Canada's best represent the nation next year.
14 games tonight. Very busy day. Finally fun to watch games and scoreboard watch!!! Should be some great game today.
Quote from: Jersey on January 30, 2017, 02:44:26 PM
Oilers need a winger for Pouilot. If not this year for TDDay that'll hurt us, next year forsure I can see them looking. He's got tone of heat on him. That position has to be fixed.
Davidson is good stop gap for injury but overall not good enough.. Nurse should be back Marchish but he's young, he'll be exposed playoffs. Will just have to let him grow. He's taken big step this year from last but injury for months could hamper ho's game :( hope not.
And back up goalie. Yikes. We are the weakest In this area for any playoff team.
Rumor was keep a eye on sharp to Oilers. i wish cuz od write off pouilot then haha
The Oilers are simply lucky you have a guy in McDavid that looks like he can carry a team on his back. All the other #1s they had couldnt.
:D
we dont need the other #1's its why we traded them for a DEFENSE! reason Oilers are 7th in nhl for GAA. well and having Talby!! But Yes, McJesus is amazing.
Quote from: Jersey on February 01, 2017, 12:55:31 AM
:D
we dont need the other #1's its why we traded them for a DEFENSE! reason Oilers are 7th in nhl for GAA. well and having Talby!! But Yes, McJesus is amazing.
Wait..... What?
Of course you needed them.
Sry but i really dont think you have any idea from what you post dude
How could you trade them if you didnt have them?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 01, 2017, 12:44:53 AM
The Oilers are simply lucky you have a guy in McDavid that looks like he can carry a team on his back. All the other #1s they had couldnt.
hes right on that one!!!
Pure luck and suck!! Or the other way round! Lol
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 01, 2017, 01:28:38 AM
Wait..... What?
Of course you needed them.
Absolutely. It was just piss-poor drafting by the Old Boys Club there.
2011: Larsson, Hamilton, Brodin, and Murphy were available. Instead, they took Nugent-Hopkins. (traded away their 2010 first overall pick in Hall for Larsson, though)
2012: Murray, Reinhart, Rielly, Lindholm, Dumba, and Trouba were all available. Instead, they draft Yakupov
Fortunately, Chiarelli has been able to make some moves and strengthen the back end. That's why the Oilers are an improved team this season. Having the offensive firepower up front means little when you can't get sound defensive zone play.
And the Blues fire Hitchcock:
http://www.tsn.ca/blues-fire-head-coach-hitchcock-yeo-takes-over-1.662228 (http://www.tsn.ca/blues-fire-head-coach-hitchcock-yeo-takes-over-1.662228)
Yeo takes over in the interim.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 01, 2017, 01:51:22 PM
And the Blues fire Hitchcock:
http://www.tsn.ca/blues-fire-head-coach-hitchcock-yeo-takes-over-1.662228 (http://www.tsn.ca/blues-fire-head-coach-hitchcock-yeo-takes-over-1.662228)
Yeo takes over in the interim.
YO
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 01, 2017, 01:51:22 PM
And the Blues fire Hitchcock:
http://www.tsn.ca/blues-fire-head-coach-hitchcock-yeo-takes-over-1.662228 (http://www.tsn.ca/blues-fire-head-coach-hitchcock-yeo-takes-over-1.662228)
Yeo takes over in the interim.
"Interim"? I thought Yeo was supposed to be the next coach because Hitch was retiring. Hanging an "interim" tag on him is kinda silly, really.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 03, 2017, 03:13:42 PM
"Interim"? I thought Yeo was supposed to be the next coach because Hitch was retiring. Hanging an "interim" tag on him is kinda silly, really.
It may have something to do with the way his contract was structured when first joining the Blues.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 03, 2017, 03:13:42 PM
"Interim"? I thought Yeo was supposed to be the next coach because Hitch was retiring. Hanging an "interim" tag on him is kinda silly, really.
It's been reported since last June Yeo would've taken over as HC in 2017-18. As of now, he's the interim HC for the balance of the current season and my guess is he'll be offered a contract extension in the near future or the off-season depending on how things go from this point on for the Blues.
Not sure what compelled you to point out something so inconsequential.
Two days later. ???
Anyway, Predators place F Ribeiro on waivers:
http://www.tsn.ca/ribeiro-requests-trade-after-being-waived-1.663950 (http://www.tsn.ca/ribeiro-requests-trade-after-being-waived-1.663950)
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 01, 2017, 01:28:38 AM
Wait..... What?
Of course you needed them.
Sry but i really dont think you have any idea from what you post dude
How could you trade them if you didnt have them?
Right. You don't need to be #1 to trade. The Oilers traded yakupov for nothing! So, what about trading all these #1 for something 😂? You act as if we got these players from big trades. Larrson is only player we got in trade for #1. We traded nothing to land Maroon. We traded hardly anything to get Talbot!
We drafted, Draisaitl, Eberle, Pitlick, Slepyshev etc nicely slotting in. McD and Nuge are #1
Now here is some education. Oil drafted, Nurse D. Klefbom, D. Signed Benning college D. Osterle, D. Davidson, D. Sure don't look to be #1 or all forwards. Eh. So mud what about forwards and #1 again? U need a map becuz u my friend are lost.
Oilers took longer to develop back there becuz the D was so young and it takes longer to develop. Aswell, no goalie besides last 2 year's...oh and the old boys club thought they knew how to GM and coach. Yikes. Was long journey but how could it not be worth it with beaut arena along with biggest sports district in north America coming in 2019 and McDavid, Talbot waiting in wings. To be competitive again with specs all around is sure to be happy about.
So we're lucky we got McDavid... And?? So was Detroit getting Yzerman, Lidstrom, Fedorov. So was Pittsburgh getting Lemieux, Jager or nowadays Crosby, Malkin, Letang Fleury. Chicago, Towes, Kane etc... Every team flonders at some point and just sometimes gets generational players. Then they add pieces and draft.
Ur point is moot when team has gotten better in points last 3 years. Literally moot. Flip it your way, tell me jets last 3 years, you'll see what I'm talking about.
Oilers are about making steps and this year is all about getting to post season and letting young kids see what it takes. Becuz personally just to be in the race is exciting and fun again to be in Oilers Country. It was long road but then again... Mud you team's also know how it feels don't ya?
#DontThrowStones
Quote from: Jersey on February 07, 2017, 01:36:26 PM
Now here is some education.
#DontThrowStones
hahahahahahah
It'd be nice if some posters knew when to move on from pointless arguments, instead of whining ad nauseam days after a response.
In other actual news, the Bruins have fired HC Claude Julien, with Providence HC Bruce Cassidy taking over in the interim:
http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-fire-head-coach-julien-cassidy-will-assume-interim-role-1.666146 (http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-fire-head-coach-julien-cassidy-will-assume-interim-role-1.666146)
I'm sure Vegas will be eyeing Julien.
I hope the Jets are eyeing Julien.
He's miles better than useless Paul Maurice.
Definitely a choice but I'm not sure True North will fire Maurice until end of the year. Atleast jets are close to playoff spot so you might aswell wait it out and see what happens. Then re assess
Quote from: Mike on February 07, 2017, 01:54:01 PM
I hope the Jets are eyeing Julien.
He's miles better than useless Paul Maurice.
Julien still has another year on his contract at $3M, so I can't see the blindly loyal folks at TNSE even showing remote interest based simply on that factor.
I'm all for showing loyalty but not when it comes at the cost of success.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 07, 2017, 04:27:25 PM
Julien still has another year on his contract at $3M, so I can't see the blindly loyal folks at TNSE even showing remote interest based simply on that factor.
I'm all for showing loyalty but not when it comes at the cost of success.
I'd take Hitchcock or Julien at this point. Maurice is pitiful.
Quote from: Mike on February 07, 2017, 04:28:20 PM
I'd take Hitchcock or Julien at this point. Maurice is pitiful.
Both are obviously an upgrade, so I agree. I don't know if I'd qualify Maurice as pitiful, but he's definitely showing how bloody mediocre his coaching mantra is.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 07, 2017, 04:29:46 PM
Both are obviously an upgrade, so I agree. I don't know if I'd qualify Maurice as pitiful, but he's definitely showing how bloody mediocre his coaching mantra is.
Exaggeration born from frustration, but I do not think he's any good at all. :P
Quote from: Mike on February 07, 2017, 04:40:45 PM
Exaggeration born from frustration, but I do not think he's any good at all. :P
I hear ya, Mike. The team should be better than it is at this point, and that loss on Saturday just grossed me out something fierce.
A quality HC can do wonders. Look at the Leafs... Well, despite their recent struggles, obviously. :D
heard on the Sports Central at Noon radio show ....... panel felt Julien is to expensive for Vegas for a couple reasons
1. the $$'s he makes puts him at a high echelon & team does not need that yet
2. team is not worried about winning at all cost as the Draft placement in next 3 years is quite important.
As for the Jets ........ my guess is a nope, as a fit, if PM is tanked, (which I don't guess is happening yet)
More drama in the desert:
http://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-arena-viewing-rumours-are-false-1.667816 (http://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-arena-viewing-rumours-are-false-1.667816)
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The Coyotes released a statement on Thursday to reaffirm their commitment to the state of Arizona.
The statement comes on the heels of a Glendale Star report that the team's ownership visited arenas in Seattle and Portland over the past three months. Coyotes president and CEO Anthony LeBlanc said recent reports from the Star are "completely false."
"Recent reports by the Glendale Star that the Coyotes ownership group has explored arena options outside the Arizona market are completely false," LeBlanc said in a statement. "The Star referenced an anonymous arena source and an anonymous Coyotes source, and these are a fabrication.
"The Coyotes are focused on creating one of the most taxpayer friendly facilities in the country here in the Valley. This new arena will pay for itself, create jobs and generate millions of dollars of revenue for the state, county and municipality where it's built.
"We are fully committed to Arizona."
The Coyotes plan to build a new arena in Tempe, Arizona was shut down when Arizona State University pulled out of the joint arena plan last week.
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/oilers-seem-comfortable-chasing-the-game-1.667731
Pretty remarkable. Oilers 2nd best team in league when trailing. 5 freaking days off feels like a month :@
Quote from: Jersey on February 09, 2017, 08:00:10 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/oilers-seem-comfortable-chasing-the-game-1.667731
Pretty remarkable. Oilers 2nd best team in league when trailing. 5 freaking days off feels like a month :@
whooopieee.
I feel even if Burns doesn't win scoring race he will be close and how can he not be considered for the hart trophy. what a gem, this guy scores anyway he feels like it!!
SjSharks looking good!
Quote from: Jersey on February 13, 2017, 07:09:45 PM
I feel even if Burns doesn't win scoring race he will be close and how can he not be considered for the hart trophy. what a gem, this guy scores anyway he feels like it!!
SjSharks looking good!
i agree it's piety insane numbers for a D man. He gets the Hart on my books thus far.
Nyquist, during the Wild vs Wing game, was showing intent, IMO, with the awful use of his stick on Spurgeon of the Wild.
Truly hope Nyquist gets a 20 game suspension ........ reality is probably 8 - 10.
I will bet on 20 for Nyquist.
Quote from: Old Rusty on February 14, 2017, 03:22:34 AM
I will bet on 20 for Nyquist.
Should be interesting to see what he gets. That was a dangerous retaliatory move. I'm thinking 7-10 but who knows with the NHL.
H&L had a Detroit sports writer on yesterday and the guy was a complete homer about it. ::)
6 games for Nyquist.
Vermette also automatically suspended for 10 games for tapping an official with his stick in response to a puck drop last night.
Waaaaaaaay too light with Nyquist.
Flames acquire D Stone from Coyotes:
http://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-send-d-stone-to-flames-for-picks-1.676644 (http://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-send-d-stone-to-flames-for-picks-1.676644)
Nice trade. And the Flames gave up very little... Ahem, Chevaldayoff.
Great pickup for Calgary.
I didn't know that Stone was a Winnipegger.
also feel it is a very good addition to the Flames in adding Stoner ....... where were you Chevy on this one ??
Kadri launched himself at Chiarot's head during the TO tilt this evening.
Another clear head shot. No penalty on the play.
Will it be reviewed?
Quote from: Old Rusty on February 22, 2017, 04:42:44 AM
Kadri launched himself at Chiarot's head during the TO tilt this evening.
Another clear head shot. No penalty on the play.
Will it be reviewed?
"Of course it will, because the Dept. of Player Safety is consistent and reasonable in its duties," said nobody ever.
Face to face is apparently OK, sideswiping isn't...
D Hainsey traded to the Penguins:
http://www.tsn.ca/injury-riddled-penguins-acquire-d-hainsey-from-hurricanes-1.679191 (http://www.tsn.ca/injury-riddled-penguins-acquire-d-hainsey-from-hurricanes-1.679191)
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Ron Hainsey appears to finally be playoff bound.
The Carolina Hurricanes have traded the defenceman to the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for AHL forward Danny Kristo and a 2017 second-round pick.
Good for Hainsey, he might get a crack at the cup. Heck - he'll be in the playoffs!! :o
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 23, 2017, 02:23:38 PM
"Of course it will, because the Dept. of Player Safety is consistent and reasonable in its duties," said nobody ever.
>:( That is so bush league. Button just covered the hit. Usually I have respect for his stuff. In this case I totally disagree with the spin. Kadri left his feet!! He also hit Chiarot's head full blast. Stopping the camera just at the right point does not provide the whole truth.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/was-kadri-s-hit-on-chiarot-legal%7E1063113
Quote from: Old Rusty on February 23, 2017, 06:26:33 PM
>:( That is so bush league. Button just covered the hit. Usually I have respect for his stuff. In this case I totally disagree with the spin. Kadri left his feet!! He also hit Chiarot's head full blast. Stopping the camera just at the right point does not provide the whole truth.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/was-kadri-s-hit-on-chiarot-legal%7E1063113
I've given up on the DOPS. Kadri is a pile of turds and two things he did on Tuesday should've been reviewed for disciplinary action: that hit and his slewfoot on Byfuglien.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 23, 2017, 06:51:00 PM
I've given up on the DOPS. Kadri is a pile of turds and two things he did on Tuesday should've been reviewed for disciplinary action: that hit and his slewfoot on Byfuglien.
Bang on again. The Toronto media heads didn't even mention the little weasels slew foot on Buff. And that's exactly why Buff had enough of the weasels BS antics at the end of the 2nd. It was a good thing for the weasel that Babcock's spidey senses were tingling and he threw Martin on his wing for that final shift of the period.
Blues re-sign F Berglund for five years:
http://www.tsn.ca/berglund-blues-agree-to-five-year-contract-1.680432 (http://www.tsn.ca/berglund-blues-agree-to-five-year-contract-1.680432)
A couple of big moves yesterday:
http://www.tsn.ca/wild-go-all-in-kings-double-down-in-net-as-tradecentre-heats-up-1.681819 (http://www.tsn.ca/wild-go-all-in-kings-double-down-in-net-as-tradecentre-heats-up-1.681819)
The Wild appear to be loading up for a deep run. It'll be interesting to see how the Boudreau Playoff Effect works this time around.
Great time to be a Wild fan .......... they are always a big test for the Jets.
Leafs acquire F Boyle from the Bolts:
http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-acquire-boyle-from-lightning-for-froese-conditional-pick-1.682479 (http://www.tsn.ca/leafs-acquire-boyle-from-lightning-for-froese-conditional-pick-1.682479)
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The Toronto Maple Leafs added depth and experience Monday afternoon, acquiring veteran centre Brian Boyle from the Tampa Bay Lightning for forward Byron Froese and a second-round draft pick in 2017.
Habs acquire D Benn from the Stars:
http://www.tsn.ca/canadiens-get-benn-from-stars-for-pateryn-pick-1.682547 (http://www.tsn.ca/canadiens-get-benn-from-stars-for-pateryn-pick-1.682547)
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The Montreal Canadiens have acquired defenceman Jordie Benn from the Dallas Stars in exchange for defenceman Greg Pateryn and a fourth-round pick in 2017.
Senators acquire F Burrows from the Canucks:
http://www.tsn.ca/sens-acquire-burrows-from-canucks-1.682530 (http://www.tsn.ca/sens-acquire-burrows-from-canucks-1.682530)
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The Ottawa Senators are gearing up for a post-season push, acquiring veteran forward Alexandre Burrows from the Vancouver Canucks in exchange for prospect Jonathan Dahlen on Monday.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 27, 2017, 10:51:47 PM
Senators acquire D Burrows from the Canucks:
http://www.tsn.ca/sens-acquire-burrows-from-canucks-1.682530 (http://www.tsn.ca/sens-acquire-burrows-from-canucks-1.682530)
So, did Forward Alex Burrows change his name or position?
Quote from: theaardvark on February 27, 2017, 11:22:33 PM
So, did Forward Alex Burrows change his name or position?
Take a look at a keyboard and you'll see it was a pretty innocent mistake. You have nothing better to do with your time than nitpick...? Pretty sad, Aardsy. Always stellar contributions to the discussion, though. Like the time you thought Scheifele was American or Brain Strait was a young defenseman.
Anyway, Capitals acquire D Shatternkirk:
http://www.tsn.ca/capitals-in-final-stages-of-acquiring-shattenkirk-1.682855 (http://www.tsn.ca/capitals-in-final-stages-of-acquiring-shattenkirk-1.682855)
Good trade for the Capitals, who also appear to be all in.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 28, 2017, 03:10:52 AM
Take a look at a keyboard and you'll see it was a pretty innocent mistake. You have nothing better to do with your time than nitpick...? Pretty sad, Aardsy. Always stellar contributions to the discussion, though. Like the team you thought Scheifele was American or Brain Strait was a young defenseman.
Anyway, Blues acquire D Shatternkirk:
http://www.tsn.ca/capitals-in-final-stages-of-acquiring-shattenkirk-1.682855 (http://www.tsn.ca/capitals-in-final-stages-of-acquiring-shattenkirk-1.682855)
Good trade for the Capitals, who also appear to be all in.
Like the
"time" you thought.....
Anyway,
"Capitals" acquire D Shattenkirk
Now THAT's nitpicking. :D
Sorry... I may have been channeling Aardsy ;)
Quote from: JMT21 on February 28, 2017, 12:36:03 PM
Like the "time" you thought.....
Anyway, "Capitals" acquire D Shattenkirk
Now THAT's nitpicking. :D
Sorry... I may have been channeling Aardsy ;)
Definite case of the Mondays yesterday. :P
Looks like the Senators also inked Burrows to a 2-year extension worth $5M:
http://www.tsn.ca/sens-sign-burrows-to-two-year-extension-1.683382 (http://www.tsn.ca/sens-sign-burrows-to-two-year-extension-1.683382)
And the Rangers acquired D Smith from the Red Wings:
http://www.tsn.ca/rangers-acquire-smith-from-wings-for-picks-1.683423 (http://www.tsn.ca/rangers-acquire-smith-from-wings-for-picks-1.683423)
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The New York Rangers have acquired defenceman Brendan Smith from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2018 second-round pick and a 2017 third-round pick, according to TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie.
Teams are definitely not feeling this years draft class.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 28, 2017, 03:10:52 AM
Take a look at a keyboard and you'll see it was a pretty innocent mistake. You have nothing better to do with your time than nitpick...? Pretty sad, Aardsy. Always stellar contributions to the discussion, though. Like the team you thought Scheifele was American or Brain Strait was a young defenseman.
Anyway, Capitals acquire D Shatternkirk:
http://www.tsn.ca/capitals-in-final-stages-of-acquiring-shattenkirk-1.682855 (http://www.tsn.ca/capitals-in-final-stages-of-acquiring-shattenkirk-1.682855)
Good trade for the Capitals, who also appear to be all in.
Not so sure about that..... gave up alot for a rental player it seems
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 28, 2017, 07:40:41 PM
Not so sure about that..... gave up alot for a rental player it seems
Yeah, because the Capitals are all in, as I said. That's why it's a good trade for them.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 28, 2017, 07:46:26 PM
Yeah, because the Capitals are all in, as I said. That's why it's a good trade for them.
I guess if the win it all then ya its a good deal.... but if they dont im not so sure it is.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 28, 2017, 11:11:23 PM
I guess if the win it all then ya its a good deal.... but if they dont im not so sure it is.
That's the risk involved. It helps bolster their blue line, which should help their chances at a deep run.
Anyway, it isn't like the draft is deep this year.
Just watch the Caps and Wild both not make the finals LOL
A few moves last night on the eve of the trade deadline:
D Oduya returns to Blackhawks: http://www.tsn.ca/tradecentre/article/blackhawks-acquire-d-oduya-from-stars-1.683920 (http://www.tsn.ca/tradecentre/article/blackhawks-acquire-d-oduya-from-stars-1.683920)
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Oduya was traded by the Dallas Stars to the Blackhawks on Tuesday night in exchange for young forward Mark McNeill and a conditional fourth-round pick in the 2018 NHL draft.
Oilers acquire F Desharnais: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/article/canadiens-trade-f-desharnais-to-oilers-1.683950 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/article/canadiens-trade-f-desharnais-to-oilers-1.683950)
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The Montreal Canadiens have traded forward David Desharnais to the Edmonton Oilers for defenceman Brandon Davidson.
Canucks trade F Hansen to Sharks: http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-trade-veteran-f-hansen-to-sharks-1.684091 (http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-trade-veteran-f-hansen-to-sharks-1.684091)
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The Vancouver Canucks made another move on Tuesday to acquire young talent, getting forward Nikolay Goldobin from the San Jose Sharks in exchange for veteran forward Jannik Hansen.
Habs acquire F Ott from Red Wings: http://www.tsn.ca/canadiens-acquire-f-ott-from-red-wings-1.684099 (http://www.tsn.ca/canadiens-acquire-f-ott-from-red-wings-1.684099)
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The Detroit Red Wings have traded forward Steve Ott to the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for a sixth-round draft pick in 2018.
Kucharov... criminal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz2E9XulR6s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz2E9XulR6s)
And then there were 31... Vegas signs its first player:
http://www.tsn.ca/golden-knights-sign-duke-in-first-transaction-1.689002 (http://www.tsn.ca/golden-knights-sign-duke-in-first-transaction-1.689002)
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Six days after receiving the green light from the NHL, the Vegas Golden Knights signed free-agent forward Reid Duke to a three-year entry level contract on Monday, marking the first player transaction in team history.
Duke, 21, has racked up 35 goals and 67 points in 54 games as an overage centre with the WHL?s Brandon Wheat Kings this season. The 6-foot, 190-pound Calgary native was originally drafted by the Minnesota Wild in the sixth round, 169th overall, of the 2014 NHL draft.
The Wheat Kings are owned by Vegas assistant general manager Kelly McCrimmon. Duke would also be familiar with current teammate and June?s potential No. 1 pick, Nolan Patrick.
Interesting read regarding the violence aspect of the NHL:
http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/sestito-embodies-nhl-s-never-ending-culture-of-violence-and-revenge (http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/sestito-embodies-nhl-s-never-ending-culture-of-violence-and-revenge)
Looks like Rutherford's a bit of a flip-flopper.
Another NHLer expresses his frustration regarding the NHL and the Olympics:
http://www.tsn.ca/voracek-sounds-off-on-nhl-s-olympics-indecision-1.693050 (http://www.tsn.ca/voracek-sounds-off-on-nhl-s-olympics-indecision-1.693050)
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Philadelphia Flyers forward Jakub Voracek pulled no punches when it came to the increasing likelihood that National League Hockey players won't be taking part in next year's Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang, South Korea.
"Absolutely ridiculous," Voracek told CSN Philly's Tim Panaccio on Thursday of the situation.
"We have it once every four years," Voracek said. "I read something that Bill Daly said we're not going. Nobody wants you to go. The players want to go. Why you're saying you're not going? You're not part of the players association. ... Nobody wants you there. They want the players."
"The players want to go, I guarantee you that," Voracek said. "I want to see how you are going to hold Ovechkin back. The Russian players. Tell them they can't go."
"It's the Olympics," Voracek said. "It's not just about business. You want to be part of the Olympics. And trust me, players want to go. And the players who don't go get a week off to recharge their batteries. If you have bumps and bruises, you can heal and recover."
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 10, 2017, 05:08:38 PM
Another NHLer expresses his frustration regarding the NHL and the Olympics:
http://www.tsn.ca/voracek-sounds-off-on-nhl-s-olympics-indecision-1.693050 (http://www.tsn.ca/voracek-sounds-off-on-nhl-s-olympics-indecision-1.693050)
Good for him.
Pittsburgh and \Lemieux usually deliver a message about safety after they have some of their dirtiest players get suspended. Theyre " worried" other teams might take a shot at |Crosby or Malkin..They have been a cheap shot team for a few years with |Lemieux running that team.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 10, 2017, 05:08:38 PM
Another NHLer expresses his frustration regarding the NHL and the Olympics:
http://www.tsn.ca/voracek-sounds-off-on-nhl-s-olympics-indecision-1.693050 (http://www.tsn.ca/voracek-sounds-off-on-nhl-s-olympics-indecision-1.693050)
Wow, nailed it!!! Glad that someone has the wherewithal to speak out against the NHL business brass - who speak only for themselves.
Quote from: Old Rusty on March 13, 2017, 01:48:37 PM
Wow, nailed it!!! Glad that someone has the wherewithal to speak out against the NHL business brass - who speak only for themselves their bank accounts.
;)
Profit/greed shouldn't take precedence over the game itself. Sadly, that's the way the sports world is.
http://www.tsn.ca/bettman-assume-nhl-not-going-to-olympics-1.702460 (http://www.tsn.ca/bettman-assume-nhl-not-going-to-olympics-1.702460)
I'd say there's a snowball's chance in hell this changes. :-[
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 22, 2017, 02:52:24 AM
http://www.tsn.ca/bettman-assume-nhl-not-going-to-olympics-1.702460 (http://www.tsn.ca/bettman-assume-nhl-not-going-to-olympics-1.702460)
I'd say there's a snowball's chance in hell this changes. :-[
And Fasel's retort further muddies the waters: http://www.tsn.ca/fasel-nhl-can-t-skip-korea-and-just-go-to-china-1.703134 (http://www.tsn.ca/fasel-nhl-can-t-skip-korea-and-just-go-to-china-1.703134)
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"If the NHL doesn't come to Korea, they can't just go to China," Fasel told Russian journalist Igor Eronko. "Negotiations will be much different."
Oh, boy.
I thought the Olympics were supposed to be for amateur athletes, not professionals, when did they change the rules so NHL and NBA players can participate ??
Also, will be interesting if the NHL decides not to go, but Ovechin and others go anyways ---could get ugly...
Sad to see another weak decision ........ just a 2 game suspension for Tkachuk for flipping such a blatant, intentional elbow to Doughty's face.
Quite a few decades ago ....... ugly, high elbow cheap shots were just part of the so called hockey norm., played in a game. Fans expected to see this crap at most games.
Retaliation was cheered & teams with bullies intimidated others. The refs allowed flagrant use of sticks & free wielding elbows & fists while teams took care of on ice justice.
Today this garbage, when it takes place, should be dealt with more severely. Tkachuk should easily have gotten 5 games or more.
Quote from: dd on March 22, 2017, 09:56:19 PM
I thought the Olympics were supposed to be for amateur athletes, not professionals, when did they change the rules so NHL and NBA players can participate ??
Also, will be interesting if the NHL decides not to go, but Ovechin and others go anyways ---could get ugly...
Solely amateurs participating in the Olympics ended decades and decades ago. The Soviet National Hockey team portrayed themselves as amateurs yet all belonged to the military as part of a special regiment who did nothing but train and play hockey 12 months a year. The Olympics started allowing NBA and NHL players to boost TV ratings. Oddly enough the highest rated Winter Olympic event in the U.S. is always women's figure skating.
Some teams will likely not try to stop it's player's from going to the Olympics, but I did read it the NHL would consider that a contract violation. This being said, if #8 wants to go to the Olympics... nothing will stop him.
The number pf players lost to each team is fairly small when they shut down the entire league. Most players get a vacation. If you take away paychecks and let them participate on their own during the season, some will go. Without insurance, etc, a lot will decide not to.
If the NHL teams allowed AHL players to participate, made a window for them, that would showcase up and coming NHL talent without affecting the season/players at the NHL level.
Maybe they could allow each country a max of 1 or 2 NHL "stars", limiting how many from each NHL team could go (based on seniority or some criteria), I'm sure there wouldn't be a big effect on the NHL product. There could even be an IIHF "draft", how exciting would that be? ;)
Quote from: theaardvark on March 23, 2017, 12:38:47 PM
The number pf players lost to each team is fairly small when they shut down the entire league. Most players get a vacation. If you take away paychecks and let them participate on their own during the season, some will go. Without insurance, etc, a lot will decide not to.
If the NHL teams allowed AHL players to participate, made a window for them, that would showcase up and coming NHL talent without affecting the season/players at the NHL level.
Maybe they could allow each country a max of 1 or 2 NHL "stars", limiting how many from each NHL team could go (based on seniority or some criteria), I'm sure there wouldn't be a big effect on the NHL product. There could even be an IIHF "draft", how exciting would that be? ;)
It wouldn't be.
It's the Olympics. Not a gimmick. Get a grip.
Quote from: Mike on March 23, 2017, 12:40:29 PM
It wouldn't be.
It's the Olympics. Not a gimmick. Get a grip.
I thought that the NHL wasn't interested because there wasn't anything in it for them. Create some hype, some interest, while minimizing the damage to the product, and its a win/win...
And yes, it is a gimmick. but that's money.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 23, 2017, 02:33:51 PM
I thought that the NHL wasn't interested because there wasn't anything in it for them. Create some hype, some interest, while minimizing the damage to the product, and its a win/win...
And yes, it is a gimmick. but that's money.
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/489/nick-young-confused-face-300x256_nqlyaa.png)
I think Betman is posturing for the NHL for the money that's involved , while the players are going for patriot reasons. If Ovechin is going , others will go and I wonder if the league has the stones to take legal recourse against players not abiding by the league to which they are employed by
Quote from: dd on March 23, 2017, 04:31:05 PM
I think Betman is posturing for the NHL for the money that's involved , while the players are going for patriot reasons. If Ovechin is going , others will go and I wonder if the league has the stones to take legal recourse against players not abiding by the league to which they are employed by
The players aren't employed by the league, they're employed by their teams.
Who are governed by the league
Quote from: dd on March 23, 2017, 09:36:16 PM
Who are governed by the league
Players cannot be punished by the league for failing to attend games during the Olympic break, only by their individual teams.
Eugene Melnyk is whining again:
http://www.tsn.ca/senators-owner-melnyk-irate-over-crosby-s-slash-on-methot-1.705254 (http://www.tsn.ca/senators-owner-melnyk-irate-over-crosby-s-slash-on-methot-1.705254)
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"You do anything that's almost a certain injury and I think the only way to do it is you wipe the guy off the map," Melnyk told TSN 1200. "Not one or two games, (but) 10. How about a season for a few of these guys' He takes my guy, I take your guy. That's my attitude."
I get that he's frustrated and it's unfortunate to lose an important piece of the back end (Jets fans are very familiar with that), but what a ridiculous overreaction. This is the same thing he did when Cooke severed Karlsson's achilles tendon a few seasons ago: loses his mind and cries to the media about it.
It's unfortunate Methot had to suffer a pretty ugly injury as a result of what's pretty common in the NHL.
Too Common. that's half the game you see now. Not fast enough to catch up to the player with the puck and check properly so now its a two handed slash to the wrist or forearm. You see it every shift. Any injury should be 5 games or the same amount as the player injured misses. But because its Crosby he will get a warning . Seems a lot of Penguin players get warnings not suspensions.
Quote from: Buckzumhoff on March 24, 2017, 05:31:22 PM
Too Common. that's half the game you see now. Not fast enough to catch up to the player with the puck and check properly so now its a two handed slash to the wrist or forearm. You see it every shift. Any injury should be 5 games or the same amount as the player injured misses. But because its Crosby he will get a warning . Seems a lot of Penguin players get warnings not suspensions.
Just because it's Crosby? Could you please name the last player to receive a fine/suspension for a slash?
Question.
If MA Fleury has a no trade clause, he must be protected by Pittsburg, right? Unless he waives it? Is there something different between a No Move clause, and No Trade clause and a modified no trade clause?
It just seems to me that if Pittsburgh goes into the draft with their roster as it sits, they have to leave Murray unprotected. Which makes the Fleury for Hutch trade workable.
Protected Lists
* Clubs will have two options for players they wish to protect in the Expansion Draft:
a) Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender
b) Eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender
* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).
* All first- and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).
Player Exposure Requirements
* All Clubs must meet the following minimum requirements regarding players exposed for selection in the Expansion Draft:
i) One defenseman who is a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.
ii) Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.
iii) One goaltender who is under contract in 2017-18 or will be a restricted free agent at the expiration of his current contract immediately prior to 2017-18. If the club elects to make a restricted free agent goaltender available in order to meet this requirement, that goaltender must have received his qualifying offer prior to the submission of the club's protected list.
* Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games (or who otherwise have been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury) may not be used to satisfy a club's player exposure requirements, unless approval is received from the NHL. Such players also may be deemed exempt from selection by the League.
Regulations Relating to Expansion Franchise
* The Las Vegas franchise must select one player from each presently existing club for a total of 30 players (not including additional players who may be acquired as the result of violations of the Expansion Draft rules).
* The Las Vegas franchise must select the following number of players at each position: 14 forwards, nine defensemen and three goaltenders.
* The Las Vegas franchise must select a minimum of 20 players who are under contract for the 2017-18 season.
* The Las Vegas franchise must select players with an aggregate Expansion Draft value that is between 60-100% of the prior season's upper limit for the salary cap.
* The Las Vegas franchise may not buy out any of the players selected in the Expansion Draft earlier than the summer following its first season.
The 30 NHL Clubs must submit their Protection List by 5:00 P.M. ET on Saturday, June 17, 2017. The Las Vegas team must submit their Expansion Draft Selections by 5:00 P.M. ET on June 20 and the announcement of their selections will be released on made on June 21.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 25, 2017, 05:55:28 AM
It just seems to me that if Pittsburgh goes into the draft with their roster as it sits, they have to leave Murray unprotected. Which makes the Fleury for Hutch trade workable.
No, it doesn't.
And yes, there are differences between clauses.
Guarantee you, whomever Las Vagas drafts for their goalies are better than our current 2
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 25, 2017, 02:10:39 PM
No, it doesn't.
And yes, there are differences between clauses.
I understand there are differences, but do those differences matter when it comes to the expansion draft? A no trade means just that, a no move means no trade and no waivers. Regardless, Fleury has a No Movement clause (12 team no trade list).
* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).Rule does not discern a difference between limited No Move and No Move. Fleury has a no movement clause (12 team list). If he chooses not to waive it, they have to protect him. And you can only protect one goaltender. Vegas takes Murray.
So Pittsburg
has to move Fleury before the draft.
If you could post a source for your information, maybe you'd have a point.
Furthermore, it still doesn't make a one for one trade like you've suggested "workable... ::)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 29, 2017, 03:47:41 AM
If you could post a source for your information, maybe you'd have a point.
Furthermore, it still doesn't make a one for one trade like you've suggested "workable... ::)
Pitts needs someone to expose - Hutch. Trading Fleury away clears cap space, no one wants to pay a backup goalie over $5 mil... there could be other pieces in the deal depending on how good Chevy sells it...
NHL announces pre-season games in China:
http://www.tsn.ca/kings-canucks-to-play-games-in-china-1.710032 (http://www.tsn.ca/kings-canucks-to-play-games-in-china-1.710032)
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BEIJING ? The NHL will play its first games in China this fall when the Los Angeles Kings and Vancouver Canucks meet in Beijing and Shanghai.
The preseason games will take place Sept. 21 in Shanghai and Sept. 23 in Beijing.
Thx you finally jets for helping a win when Oilers needed it.
Magical season continues.
McDavid will win art ross and Hart winner. He's just to good
Well, it's official:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/winter/nhl-ioc-olympics-1.4053479 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/winter/nhl-ioc-olympics-1.4053479)
What an absolute travesty.
I think its fine, send the AHL stars... young guns tournament. Juniors plus, as it were. And aging vets might get a sniff...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 03, 2017, 08:33:43 PM
I think its fine, send the AHL stars... young guns tournament. Juniors plus, as it were. And aging vets might get a sniff...
In other words, mediocre to lame hockey. Pass.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 03, 2017, 08:34:44 PM
In other words, mediocre to lame hockey. Pass.
I agree... Horrible idea. I wont be watching it.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 03, 2017, 08:34:44 PM
In other words, mediocre to lame hockey. Pass.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 03, 2017, 10:01:05 PM
I agree... Horrible idea. I wont be watching it.
Or any of the other Olympic events... except maybe Curling, eh?
People watch the juniors... mediocre hockey compared to NHL level play. And the womens. This will be better than junior, and for the country, with all countries suffering the same handicap.
I wonder if Ovi will still want to go, if he's playing against lesser competition...
Ovi said he's going and he ll go if for no other reason to piss Betman off, and if Ovi goes for Russia, others will follow. I hope all the players go and puts Betman in his place
Quote from: theaardvark on April 04, 2017, 03:16:46 AM
Or any of the other Olympic events... except maybe Curling, eh?
People watch the juniors... mediocre hockey compared to NHL level play. And the womens. This will be better than junior, and for the country, with all countries suffering the same handicap.
I wonder if Ovi will still want to go, if he's playing against lesser competition...
Uh, no. The best athletes in their respective sport participate in the Olympics, both Summer and Winter.
The juniors are mediocre compared to the NHL...? Wow. Well, we know who doesn't watch the juniors. :D
And what makes you think AHL players can just up and go to replace their NHL counterparts? AHL players are still under contract of their respective NHL organizations, which means it'll be up to that respective organization on what's allowed.
If things stay as they are at present, men's hockey at the 2018 Winter Olympics will be on par with the Spengler Cup in terms of talent.
Well done demonstrating your ignorance yet again.
Quote from: dd on April 04, 2017, 04:33:19 AM
Ovi said he's going and he ll go if for no other reason to piss Betman off, and if Ovi goes for Russia, others will follow. I hope all the players go and puts Betman in his place
It isn't just Bettman who shoulders the blame. And players being allowed to go will be dependent on what a specific team allows. In Ovechkin's case, Capitals owner Ted Leonsis has already stated he'll let his team's player go if they wish.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 04, 2017, 03:16:46 AM
Or any of the other Olympic events... except maybe Curling, eh?
People watch the juniors... mediocre hockey compared to NHL level play. And the womens. This will be better than junior, and for the country, with all countries suffering the same handicap.
I wonder if Ovi will still want to go, if he's playing against lesser competition...
LOL Holy hell man
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 04, 2017, 05:48:43 AM
Uh, no. The best athletes in their respective sport participate in the Olympics, both Summer and Winter.
The juniors are mediocre compared to the NHL...? Wow. Well, we know who doesn't watch the juniors. :D
And what makes you think AHL players can just up and go to replace their NHL counterparts? AHL players are still under contract of their respective NHL organizations, which means it'll be up to that respective organization on what's allowed.
If things stay as they are at present, men's hockey at the 2018 Winter Olympics will be on par with the Spengler Cup in terms of talent.
Well done demonstrating your ignorance yet again.
It isn't just Bettman who shoulders the blame. And players being allowed to go will be dependent on what a specific team allows. In Ovechkin's case, Capitals owner Ted Leonsis has already stated he'll let his team's player go if they wish.
Yes, I have watched the juniors. Its an even playing field with all countries having a max age limit, but it is far from NHL speed and quality.
If anything, olympic hockey with dream team players is less of an even playing field. The powerhouses are always there. A handful of favourites. Without, it would be like the juniors, and anyone can win, with coaching and an emerging star...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 04, 2017, 02:45:22 PM
Yes, I have watched the juniors. Its an even playing field with all countries having a max age limit, but it is far from NHL speed and quality.
If anything, olympic hockey with dream team players is less of an even playing field. The powerhouses are always there. A handful of favourites. Without, it would be like the juniors, and anyone can win, with coaching and an emerging star...
Nobody said it had NHL speed or quality. It's not an apples to apples comparison, anyway. But you said the juniors are mediocre. You're entitled to your opinion, but pure hockey fans would disagree with you. Raw emotion and youthful exuberance are what make the juniors so entertaining. And because it only happens for a couple weeks, it makes for an intense and high calibre product. That's how it's markedly different in its quality from the NHL. How is it an even playing field, though? The top teams tend to be the same ones every year: Canada, USA, Russia, Sweden, Finland. How is it an even playing field for Switzerland, Denmark, Germany, Latvia, or Belarus?
And you may want to fact check next time you make erroneous statements. The last time NHL players did not participate in the Winter Olympics was 1994. Sweden won gold, Canada won silver, and Finland beat Russia for the bronze. Four powerhouse hockey nations without NHL players.
Swing and a miss, Aardsy. :D
Ovechkin said "owner Ted Leonsis understands" ...... seems a far cry from the owner saying ..... go with a few others & leave our team short for 4 - 7 NHL games
The 4 - 7 was a reach as I have no idea what the schedule would say over the time period that Ovechkin would be away
........ but I'm sure you get my drift how difficult it would be for owners to just turn their backs on the NHL games for the sake of some egos/nat. pride
Alex Ovechkin, summing up his thoughts on the Olympics: "Somebody going to tell me don?t go, I don?t care, I just go.?
11:56 AM - 4 Apr 2017
Quote from: Jockitch on April 04, 2017, 05:44:19 PM
Ovechkin said "owner Ted Leonsis understands" ...... seems a far cry from the owner saying ..... go with a few others & leave our team short for 4 - 7 NHL games
The 4 - 7 was a reach as I have no idea what the schedule would say over the time period that Ovechkin would be away
........ but I'm sure you get my drift how difficult it would be for owners to just turn their backs on the NHL games for the sake of some egos/nat. pride
No, he said Leonsis will allow him to go: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/winter/alex-ovechkin-says-he-will-play-at-olympics-1.4054823 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/winter/alex-ovechkin-says-he-will-play-at-olympics-1.4054823)
Leonsis has also said he supports Ovechkin's decision as recently as December.
And participating in the Olympics is about more than ego. Meanwhile, this whole dilemma has stemmed from greed on the part of the NHL and its egotistical owners. Bottom line: 31 owners get no financial benefit from the Winter Olympics.
Read your link & Leonsis comment ...... I got mine off the short TSN blurb.
No doubt we as fans would scream at the non pros participation in the Olys. There is time however for a different resolve........ fingers crossed.
Ovi is Ovi, if he says he's going, he's going and nobody is going to tell him different. And rest assured, if he goes, other Europeans will surely follow, which will out the pressure on the North American players to go. This is going to be great!!!
Quote from: Jockitch on April 04, 2017, 06:12:00 PM
Read your link & Leonsis comment ...... I got mine off the short TSN blurb.
No doubt we as fans would scream at the non pros participation in the Olys. There is time however for a different resolve........ fingers crossed.
Taken from the CBC link:
Quote
Capitals owner Ted Leonsis has said he would support Ovechkin's desire to play in the Olympics, something the player greatly appreciates.
"Our owner understands my view, [fellow Russian Evgeny] Kuznetsov's view, [Sweden's Nicklas] Backstrom's view, [Marcus] Johannson's view and the same with [Canadian goalie Braden] Holtby," Ovechkin said.
Quote from: dd on April 04, 2017, 06:51:39 PM
Ovi is Ovi, if he says he's going, he's going and nobody is going to tell him different. And rest assured, if he goes, other Europeans will surely follow, which will out the pressure on the North American players to go. This is going to be great!!!
Agreed. Hopefully, there will be a backlash in the coming months and the league and its money-hungry owners will be stuck in damage control mode.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 04, 2017, 07:02:02 PM
Taken from the CBC link:
Agreed. Hopefully, there will be a backlash in the coming months and the league and its money-hungry owners will be stuck in damage control mode.
The NHL brass with their usual histrionics are turning my stomach. How visionless, gauche, brutal?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 04, 2017, 02:18:05 PM
LOL Holy hell man
Oh man... this tickled me. ;D Still laughing. :)
Quote from: Old Rusty on April 04, 2017, 08:50:36 PM
The NHL brass with their usual histrionics are turning my stomach. How visionless, gauche, brutal?
If I could like a post on this forum, this one would be the first.
Histrionics... Ah, le mot juste! ;D
Just an embarrassing display, to be sure. But this tactic has become typical of the NHL under Bettman. I don't blame him, per se. He's just a puppet for the owners and as long as he does their bidding and their trough remains full and unthreatened, they're happy as pigs in crap. Sadly, letting the leagues best players showcase their talents to the world doesn't benefit them or the league in any
financial way, so of course it's a no.
Honestly, this whole debacle reminds me of the lockouts and how the league and the owners comport themselves. It's sickening.
Hopefully, Ovechkin's on to something and the league is bluffing. The IIHF seems to think something can still be done to save the Olympics:
http://www.tsn.ca/iihf-trying-to-find-olympic-deal-with-nhl-1.715054 (http://www.tsn.ca/iihf-trying-to-find-olympic-deal-with-nhl-1.715054)
And the plot thickens:
http://www.tsn.ca/how-the-nhl-can-prevent-players-from-going-to-olympics-1.715216 (http://www.tsn.ca/how-the-nhl-can-prevent-players-from-going-to-olympics-1.715216)
Definitely worth a read as it discusses not only what may happen regarding individual player participation at the 2018 Olympics, but also the ramifications and potential fallout after the fact.
This has the potential to get seriously ugly.
Yes, it could. The league can fine the owners all they want, take away draft picks etc--what do the players care?? Most are URFA anyways and will bolt from their current team if the league penalizes the team too much.
I think this is all a negotiation tactic by Betman but he'd better be careful as the players will go over regardless of what he says and in some cases, in spite of what he says
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 04, 2017, 09:05:22 PM
Honestly, this whole debacle reminds me of the lockouts and how the league and the owners comport themselves. It's sickening.
Hopefully, Ovechkin's on to something and the league is bluffing. The IIHF seems to think something can still be done to save the Olympics:
http://www.tsn.ca/iihf-trying-to-find-olympic-deal-with-nhl-1.715054 (http://www.tsn.ca/iihf-trying-to-find-olympic-deal-with-nhl-1.715054)
Yes, Ovechkin's tack is interesting and raises questions about the magnitude of the owners' posturing. I hope the Caps owner is the first to show some willingness to allow the players to go. I can see Chipman doing the same, as he was all about pure competition, the Olympics and hockey with participation at the highest possible level. He is "into it, I believe. At worst, he may passively allow players to hit the road during the winter games.
With respect to players' stance....
I like Zetterberg's quote even more than Ovechkin's:
"I haven't really seen the statement yet, but I'm not real surprised,' said Zetterberg, believing it was a negotiating ploy to win a concession out of the Players Association. 'They probably want something from us, as always.'
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nhl/2017/04/03/nhl-wont-participate-2018-winter-olympics/99993636/
A wise player, Zetterberg is.
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Marchand to have a hearing for his spear in last night's game:
http://www.tsn.ca/marchand-to-have-hearing-for-spear-1.715397 (http://www.tsn.ca/marchand-to-have-hearing-for-spear-1.715397)
For a guy who's really excelled this season and shown his pure hockey skill, he's still prone to dumb moves like this.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 04, 2017, 02:45:22 PM
Yes, I have watched the juniors.
but it is far from NHL speed
Proving you've never seen a WJHC game in your life.
Best for the game of NHL hockey & it's seemingly desired direction ........... Marchand gets suspended at least 3 games into the playoffs.
Mad Marchand gets 2 games & forfeits $$ .......... very disappointed in the decision but not surprised.
This guy is a repeat offender of a variety of "errors in judgement of fair play" ....... what are the decision makers thinking.
...... so my Q. is ........ if a non past offender, such as Morrissey, does the same, does he get ZERO for punishment ??
The playoffs are upon us:
https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-playoffs-round-1-schedule/c-280159064 (https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-playoffs-round-1-schedule/c-280159064)
Connor McDavid also cracked 100 points this season:
http://www.tsn.ca/mcdavid-reaches-100-points-oilers-beat-canucks-to-end-regular-season-1.720024 (http://www.tsn.ca/mcdavid-reaches-100-points-oilers-beat-canucks-to-end-regular-season-1.720024)
Incredible!
We did it. Finally!!!!! For Oilers they met my expectations as making playoffs was something that was on horizon even though many doubted.
This year is great learning curve for us. Playoffs is bonus and no matter how we do
we can be proud and take much needed experience into next season for a true cup run.
Anything can happen but I don't see a cup in our future this year as we have over half our roster never in playoffs...5th youngest in nhl. Just go out and play your best and let's see what happens :) go oil go. Cheering em as far as they can go. Surge Of Orange is coming. Oilers are wearing orange and so are fans for playoffs. Seriously can't wait for loudest fans in playoffs back!!! Last time we made playoffs we broke DB records and media from everywhere calling it louder then anything heard in Chicago stadium. I'll be in Edmonton this week for first round. Eeeek
Edmonton will have new look next year orange jerseys as home. They want new era with new arena and McDavid.
Good luck to everyone's team in playoffs. This is fun part of the year
Quote from: Jersey on April 10, 2017, 12:19:32 PM
We did it. Finally!!!!! For Oilers they met my expectations as making playoffs was something that was on horizon even though many doubted.
This year is great learning curve for us. Playoffs is bonus and no matter how we do
we can be proud and take much needed experience into next season for a true cup run.
Anything can happen but I don't see a cup in our future this year as we have over half our roster never in playoffs...5th youngest in nhl. Just go out and play your best and let's see what happens :) go oil go. Cheering em as far as they can go. Surge Of Orange is coming. Oilers are wearing orange and so are fans for playoffs. Seriously can't wait for loudest fans in playoffs back!!! Last time we made playoffs we broke DB records and media from everywhere calling it louder then anything heard in Chicago stadium. I'll be in Edmonton this week for first round. Eeeek
Edmonton will have new look next year orange jerseys as home. They want new era with new arena and McDavid.
Good luck to everyone's team in playoffs. This is fun part of the year
Good luck Jersey should be a blast in Edmonton! I think they have a good shot to beat SJ, I hope they do well. I heard the ticket prices were absurd in EDM any truth to that?
Quote from: Jersey on April 10, 2017, 12:19:32 PM
We did it. Finally!!!!! For Oilers they met my expectations as making playoffs was something that was on horizon even though many doubted.
This year is great learning curve for us. Playoffs is bonus and no matter how we do
we can be proud and take much needed experience into next season for a true cup run.
Anything can happen but I don't see a cup in our future this year as we have over half our roster never in playoffs...5th youngest in nhl. Just go out and play your best and let's see what happens :) go oil go. Cheering em as far as they can go. Surge Of Orange is coming. Oilers are wearing orange and so are fans for playoffs. Seriously can't wait for loudest fans in playoffs back!!! Last time we made playoffs we broke DB records and media from everywhere calling it louder then anything heard in Chicago stadium. I'll be in Edmonton this week for first round. Eeeek
Edmonton will have new look next year orange jerseys as home. They want new era with new arena and McDavid.
Good luck to everyone's team in playoffs. This is fun part of the year
Good luck. Wish we had been able to hit the playoffs on a stronger note, but nothing can be done about that now. We were a 3rd seed last year and it worked out alright. Just hope everyone is ready to go for game 1. Make sure to cheer extra loud for all of Burnsies goals for me. ;)
Canucks fire Desjardins: http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-fire-head-coach-desjardins-1.720400 (http://www.tsn.ca/canucks-fire-head-coach-desjardins-1.720400)
Panthers rename Tallon as GM, Rowe moved to advisory role: http://www.tsn.ca/panthers-name-tallon-gm-rowe-re-assigned-1.720253 (http://www.tsn.ca/panthers-name-tallon-gm-rowe-re-assigned-1.720253)
Just a gong show in Sunrise.
Canucks led the league in Man games Lost ......... Desjardins had a very unenviable position & yet I thought they won a fair share.
Team started the year from a minimal strong position ......... Linden & especially their GM, Benning are the underachievers IMO.
Oilers have a very good chance vs the extremely rudderless, in the recent 15 or so games, Sharks. Maroon & Draisaitl need to keep achieving.
Desjardins paid the price for some really questionable management. Can't see the Canuck improving dramatically next year either. They are pretty much committed (or should be) to a complete rebuild.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on April 10, 2017, 01:40:22 PM
Good luck Jersey should be a blast in Edmonton! I think they have a good shot to beat SJ, I hope they do well. I heard the ticket prices were absurd in EDM any truth to that?
I think Edmonton will take down SJ. Good luck to them!
And, good luck to Washington, Montreal, Calgary (I predict this series will be chock full of fights), and Ottawa.
La fires Sutter and Lombardi...
Lombardi, Sutter out; Blake and Robitaille promoted: http://www.tsn.ca/kings-fire-sutter-lombardi-promote-robitaille-blake-1.721029 (http://www.tsn.ca/kings-fire-sutter-lombardi-promote-robitaille-blake-1.721029)
It'll be interesting to see who they look at to replace Sutter, not to mention where he ends up next.
Ruff also gone in Dallas (his contract was not renewed): https://www.nhl.com/news/lindy-ruff-out-as-dallas-stars-coach/c-288607106 (https://www.nhl.com/news/lindy-ruff-out-as-dallas-stars-coach/c-288607106)
I can't imagine he'll be unemployed for long.
And Button has Nolan Patrick going first overall in the draft: http://www.tsn.ca/patrick-goes-no-1-in-tsn-s-post-season-mock-draft-1.720569 (http://www.tsn.ca/patrick-goes-no-1-in-tsn-s-post-season-mock-draft-1.720569)
Quote from: Colton on April 10, 2017, 04:19:19 PM
Good luck. Wish we had been able to hit the playoffs on a stronger note, but nothing can be done about that now. We were a 3rd seed last year and it worked out alright. Just hope everyone is ready to go for game 1. Make sure to cheer extra loud for all of Burnsies goals for me. ;)
Lmao. Nooooo haha. I think we have a good chance to make a good run. Then I hate thinking that because we lack in experience.
I have Oil to win in 5 VS SJ.
Colton what do you got SJ to win in? Let's be real we ain't going against our team's. Lol. Have fun VS McD and Drai eh 😉. Will have fun VS Burns 😡 he's so good. It'll be interesting to see if sj or any team for that matter gives McDavid lil shots here n there. That's only way to try n get him off his game because I don't see anybody slowing him down. He does everything in top flight. But it's also his first go. So this is gonna be interesting. Good Luck today but not tmrw.
Oilers tickets.
Oh don't even get me started. First off tixs where gone for all 4 games first rnd in 5 mins. Only 400 tixs went on sale for each game. So lost out on that. Secondary is only way to go
Some Oil fans where mad. Tixs where from $99 to 460.00. So now on secondary sites You can't sit anywhere near front row for less then $900.00 up to 2,200.00 Hold on, let me take out a loan 😂
To sit upper deck most tixs going from 500 to 600. There is few ticks you can find at 400 each for row 12 upper deck. I'm In. Lol.
Excitement.
The city is paying extra $60,000 dollars for police for after games to make sure parties are safe on streets. Watch we get swept eh. No parties, lol. It can't go down like that though 😡 Downtown and whyte ave are the two destinations. They figure downtown because of ice district although nothing will be ready until 2019 opening. But lots of bars near Rogers Place these days!
'Orange Crush' is slogan for playoffs as Oilers asking fans to wear orange and 'Get Loud'. If you never seen a Oilers home game in playoffs. Well fans chant a lot. Axe goalie with there arms in motion back and fourth while chanting goalie name, started that VS stars in 2000. Jets fans did it Rolston if u remember. Oilers fans hit 124 decibels last playoff run. More fans bigger arena, I guess will see. It's going to be wild that's forsure.
One Day away!!!!!
Enjoy.
Quote from: Jersey on April 11, 2017, 12:22:33 PM
Lmao. Nooooo haha. I think we have a good chance to make a good run. Then I hate thinking that because we lack in experience.
I have Oil to win in 5 VS SJ.
Colton what do you got SJ to win in? Let's be real we ain't going against our team's. Lol. Have fun VS McD and Drai eh 😉. Will have fun VS Burns 😡 he's so good. It'll be interesting to see if sj or any team for that matter gives McDavid lil shots here n there. That's only way to try n get him off his game because I don't see anybody slowing him down. He does everything in top flight. But it's also his first go. So this is gonna be interesting. Good Luck today but not tmrw.
Oilers tickets.
Oh don't even get me started. First off tixs where gone for all 4 games first rnd in 5 mins. Only 400 tixs went on sale for each game. So lost out on that. Secondary is only way to go
Some Oil fans where mad. Tixs where from $99 to 460.00. So now on secondary sites You can't sit anywhere near front row for less then $900.00 up to 2,200.00 Hold on, let me take out a loan 😂
To sit upper deck most tixs going from 500 to 600. There is few ticks you can find at 400 each for row 12 upper deck. I'm In. Lol.
Excitement.
The city is paying extra $60,000 dollars for police for after games to make sure parties are safe on streets. Watch we get swept eh. No parties, lol. It can't go down like that though 😡 Downtown and whyte ave are the two destinations. They figure downtown because of ice district although nothing will be ready until 2019 opening. But lots of bars near Rogers Place these days!
'Orange Crush' is slogan for playoffs as Oilers asking fans to wear orange and 'Get Loud'. If you never seen a Oilers home game in playoffs. Well fans chant a lot. Axe goalie with there arms in motion back and fourth while chanting goalie name, started that VS stars in 2000. Jets fans did it Rolston if u remember. Oilers fans hit 124 decibels last playoff run. More fans bigger arena, I guess will see. It's going to be wild that's forsure.
One Day away!!!!!
Enjoy.
Are you an Ollers fan? ;D
Easy boy, down I say. :)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 11, 2017, 02:32:35 AM
Lombardi, Sutter out; Blake and Robitaille promoted: http://www.tsn.ca/kings-fire-sutter-lombardi-promote-robitaille-blake-1.721029 (http://www.tsn.ca/kings-fire-sutter-lombardi-promote-robitaille-blake-1.721029)
It'll be interesting to see who they look at to replace Sutter, not to mention where he ends up next.
Ruff also gone in Dallas (his contract was not renewed): https://www.nhl.com/news/lindy-ruff-out-as-dallas-stars-coach/c-288607106 (https://www.nhl.com/news/lindy-ruff-out-as-dallas-stars-coach/c-288607106)
I can't imagine he'll be unemployed for long.
And Button has Nolan Patrick going first overall in the draft: http://www.tsn.ca/patrick-goes-no-1-in-tsn-s-post-season-mock-draft-1.720569 (http://www.tsn.ca/patrick-goes-no-1-in-tsn-s-post-season-mock-draft-1.720569)
Lots of folks are hoping Sutter will come to Winnipeg, but I think if he's up here, he would rather go back to his cattle farm in Alberta.
Quote from: Jersey on April 11, 2017, 12:22:33 PM
Lmao. Nooooo haha. I think we have a good chance to make a good run. Then I hate thinking that because we lack in experience.
I have Oil to win in 5 VS SJ.
Colton what do you got SJ to win in? Let's be real we ain't going against our team's. Lol. Have fun VS McD and Drai eh 😉. Will have fun VS Burns 😡 he's so good. It'll be interesting to see if sj or any team for that matter gives McDavid lil shots here n there. That's only way to try n get him off his game because I don't see anybody slowing him down. He does everything in top flight. But it's also his first go. So this is gonna be interesting. Good Luck today but not tmrw.
Oilers tickets.
Oh don't even get me started. First off tixs where gone for all 4 games first rnd in 5 mins. Only 400 tixs went on sale for each game. So lost out on that. Secondary is only way to go
Some Oil fans where mad. Tixs where from $99 to 460.00. So now on secondary sites You can't sit anywhere near front row for less then $900.00 up to 2,200.00 Hold on, let me take out a loan 😂
To sit upper deck most tixs going from 500 to 600. There is few ticks you can find at 400 each for row 12 upper deck. I'm In. Lol.
Excitement.
The city is paying extra $60,000 dollars for police for after games to make sure parties are safe on streets. Watch we get swept eh. No parties, lol. It can't go down like that though 😡 Downtown and whyte ave are the two destinations. They figure downtown because of ice district although nothing will be ready until 2019 opening. But lots of bars near Rogers Place these days!
'Orange Crush' is slogan for playoffs as Oilers asking fans to wear orange and 'Get Loud'. If you never seen a Oilers home game in playoffs. Well fans chant a lot. Axe goalie with there arms in motion back and fourth while chanting goalie name, started that VS stars in 2000. Jets fans did it Rolston if u remember. Oilers fans hit 124 decibels last playoff run. More fans bigger arena, I guess will see. It's going to be wild that's forsure.
One Day away!!!!!
Enjoy.
If SJ wins it will need to be in 7 I think. Edmonton is going to win some games without doubt. From a realistic standpoint I don't see the Sharks getting out of the first round this year with how they have been playing as of late, but as soon as the puck drops tomorrow I know that mindset will fade and I'll be in a "Sharks in 3" mindset. If anyone on the team is going to start hacking at McDavid I'd expect it to be Thornton. He's pretty shameless in the playoffs and will take on the pest role, which he isn't too bad at. At least from a "Getting away with it" standpoint.
Quote from: Old Rusty on April 11, 2017, 12:47:51 PM
Lots of folks are hoping Sutter will come to Winnipeg, but I think if he's up here, he would rather go back to his cattle farm in Alberta.
Well, TNSE is busy working on an undeserved contract extension for Maurice, so I hope those folks aren't holding their breath.
Sutter will get calls. There's Florida, Dallas, Vancouver...
Man, I really can't stand the media/social media right now with regard to the playoffs. I cannot understand the insecurity complex that exists when Canadian teams don't make the playoffs to when they do. It's baffling.
Quote from: Jersey on April 11, 2017, 12:22:33 PM
Lmao. Nooooo haha. I think we have a good chance to make a good run. Then I hate thinking that because we lack in experience.
I have Oil to win in 5 VS SJ.
Axe goalie with there arms in motion back and fourth while chanting goalie name, started that VS stars in 2000.
I can't see the Sharks only winning 1 game.
Pretty sure the axe the goalie thing started in the 80s when they were playing Philly and Ron "Hack-stall".
I am taking in the FIRST Rd. Hawks over Preds ......Wild over Blues ...... Ducks over Flames ........ & the Oilers over Sharks.
All series I will guess go 6 games
Also Rangers over Mtl. & Sens over Bruins ..... both in 6. Then Caps beat Leafs & Pens over Jackets ...... in 5 games.
In the end ..... I'm guessing the Wild meet the Caps in the Final ....... with the Caps winning it all.
Hitchcock back to Dallas...?
http://www.tsn.ca/hitchcock-to-be-named-coach-of-stars-1.722454 (http://www.tsn.ca/hitchcock-to-be-named-coach-of-stars-1.722454)
Didn't see that coming, but good for him.
I knew he wouldn't last long on the sidelines, I wish we could have got him here, he's a top knotch, winning coach
Gerard Gallant named Golden Knights first coach
Will lead Vegas during inaugural NHL season
https://www.nhl.com/news/gerard-gallant-named-vegas-first-coach/c-288744036
Quote from: ModAdmin on April 13, 2017, 03:22:27 PM
Gerard Gallant named Golden Knights first coach
Will lead Vegas during inaugural NHL season
https://www.nhl.com/news/gerard-gallant-named-vegas-first-coach/c-288744036
Nice choice for Vegas.
Quick stop in. Gonna be gone for a while. In E town.
City is buzzing and it was electric yesterday full congrats to San jose down 2 zip and there experience really showed. Young Oilers looked fazed. But hopefully now they know wut to expect from atmosphere here, they can feed off it. It's almost must win. Oilers where out played after 1st. But just to be back in the playoffs after life time ago it seems is amazing feeling and scene.
Good luck Colton on your quest for the cup aswell. You deserved that game 1.
Quote from: Jersey on April 14, 2017, 12:00:46 AM
Quick stop in. Gonna be gone for a while. In E town.
City is buzzing and it was electric yesterday full congrats to San jose down 2 zip and there experience really showed. Young Oilers looked fazed. But hopefully now they know wut to expect from atmosphere here, they can feed off it. It's almost must win. Oilers where out played after 1st. But just to be back in the playoffs after life time ago it seems is amazing feeling and scene.
Good luck Colton on your quest for the cup aswell. You deserved that game 1.
Have fun at the game, but I hope you go home disappointed :P
Some really good hockey so far in this year's post-season.
Wild game in the nation's capital today. Huge win for the Senators.
The Capitals really seem to be playing with fire in the first round.
And Nashville is putting the fear of God into the Blackhawks, 5-0!!!!, and they ll go back to Nashville down 2-0 in games . Who da thought that!?!? The Hawks can't buy a goal and every shot seems to go in for the Preds.
The Predators are on fire. I can't believe how poorly the Blackhawks have played so far.
The Blues are playing really well. I'm shocked at how bad the Wild are playing, but I'm okay with it. ;D
I can't believe the intensity and nastiness in every shift of every game. Last team standing wins!!
The Blackhawks finally score a couple, but lose in OT... Really surprised they're on the brink. The Ducks are doing to the Flames what they did to the Jets two years ago. Kudos to the Leafs for taking the series lead over the Capitals, who seem to be doing their bed-crapping in the first round this year. And a crazy game in Boston with the Senators taking the series lead.
An excellent first round so far.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 18, 2017, 06:28:49 AM
The Blackhawks finally score a couple, but lose in OT... Really surprised they're on the brink. The Ducks are doing to the Flames what they did to the Jets two years ago. Kudos to the Leafs for taking the series lead over the Capitals, who seem to be doing their bed-crapping in the first round this year. And a crazy game in Boston with the Senators taking the series lead.
An excellent first round so far.
Agreed. I haven't watched as much as I'd like but what I have seen has been great.
Am I a bad person for wanting Anaheim to sweep Calgary just because it happened to us, and because I'm jealous they made it in and we didn't?
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 18, 2017, 05:31:44 PM
Agreed. I haven't watched as much as I'd like but what I have seen has been great.
Am I a bad person for wanting Anaheim to sweep Calgary just because it happened to us, and because I'm jealous they made it in and we didn't?
Nah, I don't think so. I remember Flames fans not feeling too bad for us back then. ;)
I have to say I'm pretty envious of Leafs fans at the moment. Look what solid veteran netminding does for a team, not to mention having the best coach in the business on the bench. The Leafs are gaining some very valuable experience in this post-season.
I'm no Blues fan but I really hope they sweep the Wild tonight.
Agreed on all accounts there as well.
I work with a Leafs fan and even though he's cloudy on reality (par for the course for Leafs fans), he gets that Babcock is the #1 reason for success. He really got those kids to play at 100%.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 18, 2017, 05:54:47 PM
Nah, I don't think so. I remember Flames fans not feeling too bad for us back then. ;)
I have to say I'm pretty envious of Leafs fans at the moment. Look what solid veteran netminding does for a team, not to mention having the best coach in the business on the bench. The Leafs are gaining some very valuable experience in this post-season.
I'm no Blues fan but I really hope they sweep the Wild tonight.
I agree re: Blues I don't like Bougreau!
I feel not for the Flames as well for same reasons.
Leafs situation I find entertaining though I hope Caps pull through, pool related.
I like how the Sens are playing. Karlsson is awesome!!! He's amazing!! Wicked plays!
Go Oil Go again pool related!!
Rangers played a solid game to tie up the series going back to Montreal. The Jackets stay alive in a nailbiter.
And the Sharks get a huge win. I did not see that coming. Lopsided would be an understatement.
The Sharks played great, the Oilers, not so much.
I can't believe the Ducks. How is it that they take down a solid team like Calgary so consistently?
And while I despise the Leafs, who couldn't love dart guy?
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Quote from: Old Rusty on April 19, 2017, 12:25:44 PM
I can't believe the Ducks. How is it that they take down a solid team like Calgary so consistently?
Are the Flames really that solid of a team, though?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 19, 2017, 04:06:54 PM
Are the Flames really that solid of a team, though?
Just about to say this. I realize they went on a tear, but other than that they were/are a fringe playoff team. Not on the same planet as the Ducks. Just like when we had to play them.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 19, 2017, 05:51:36 PM
Just about to say this. I realize they went on a tear, but other than that they were/are a fringe playoff team. Not on the same planet as the Ducks. Just like when we had to play them.
Agreed. Similar to what the Flyers did earlier in the season by winning ten in a row, IMO.
Moreover, the Ducks have had the Flames' number for a while now. Especially in Anaheim.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 19, 2017, 04:06:54 PM
Are the Flames really that solid of a team, though?
I don't think they are at all, give us their goalie and we're in the playoffs and they aren't!!!
Quote from: dd on April 20, 2017, 12:32:29 AM
I don't think they are at all, give us their goalie and we're in the playoffs and they aren't!!!
Yeah, it's not even close to being that trivial at all.
Not tonight it isn't, their goalies stink!! And they are going to be eliminated tonight
Calgary isn't skating. They have to play full out take chances.
At the start of the second period - Calgary appears to be a beaten team. :-X
Quote from: Old Rusty on April 19, 2017, 12:25:44 PM
And while I despise the Leafs, who couldn't love dart guy?
He must have attended Dartmouth.
.......I'll see myself out
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Quote from: Old Rusty on April 20, 2017, 03:15:18 AM
At the start of the second period - Calgary appears to be a beaten team. :-X
They made it interesting but the Ducks are simply a superior team. Just like we saw with the Jets two years ago.
This series reminded me of one thing: man, I dislike the Anaheim Ducks. ;D
I don't imagine Elliott or Johnson get re-upped in Cowtown, either.
Anaheim is a superior team, but then again, the Caps are far superior t the Leafs... and look how that series is going.
The Ducks seem to find ways to win. Our series against them is case in point, we led most of the series, and got swept. That stat was insane. That said, I'd hate to face the Ducks in the first round... ever.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 20, 2017, 03:42:12 PM
I don't imagine Elliott or Johnson get re-upped in Cowtown, either.
Hearing certain people go on and on and on about bringing Elliott in to the Jets this season made this whole series absolutely hilarious to me. Another case of someone hearing a name on the radio and attaching themselves to that idea with a death grip without ever actually watching that player play.
Quote from: Colton on April 20, 2017, 03:52:36 PM
Hearing certain people go on and on and on about bringing Elliott in to the Jets this season made this whole series absolutely hilarious to me. Another case of someone hearing a name on the radio and attaching themselves to that idea with a death grip without ever actually watching that player play.
Replace his name with Fleury, Bishop, etc. It's comical. :D
Fans back home have to be some of those most delusional when it comes to goalies. Disregard the other glaring issues and simply plug and play another goalie named ________ and they're a playoff team. Absolutely absurd.
A veteran goalie would help but it's not that simple. Look what just happened to the Flames. ;)
Anaheim skates and they play together with good coaching. . Anaheim has 2 or 3 good lines . And the coaches care about wins not whether they are improving .
What's hilarious is people dumping on Elliot, who is a decent goalie and I hope Calgary doesn't extend him as I bet Chevy is interested and even suggested that (acquiring a veteran goaltender) at his year end conference e.
And while we re trashing Elliot, add Crawford to the pile of useless goalies who can't win a game all by themselves. He s junk, Chicago should just out and out release him
What's truly hilarious is how folks defend the inconsistent and sub par netminding we got this year and then trash other netminders who had a far better year this year at stopping a wrist shot from the blue line, far, far better
Not to worry about our current goaltending situation , guarantee you Chevy dips into the FA market and brings in a more consistent performer for next year, bet on it.
Quote from: dd on April 21, 2017, 01:26:43 AM
What's hilarious is people dumping on Elliot, who is a decent goalie and I hope Calgary doesn't extend him as I bet Chevy is interested and even suggested that (acquiring a veteran goaltender) at his year end conference e.
And while we re trashing Elliot, add Crawford to the pile of useless goalies who can't win a game all by themselves. He s junk, Chicago should just out and out release him
What's truly hilarious is how folks defend the inconsistent and sub par netminding we got this year and then trash other netminders who had a far better year this year at stopping a wrist shot from the blue line, far, far better
Not to worry about our current goaltending situation , guarantee you Chevy dips into the FA market and brings in a more consistent performer for next year, bet on it.
Could you even name the teams Elliott played for before this season without looking it up beforehand? You sure as hell don't even know how to spell his name correctly.
Quote from: Colton on April 21, 2017, 06:48:22 AM
Could you even name the teams Elliott played for before this season without looking it up beforehand? You sure as hell don't even know how to spell his name correctly.
And then dumps on Crawford, a two-time Stanley Cup Champion, because his team couldn't score a goal to save its life. :D
Elliott is a streaky goaltender. That's not an insult. It's valid and factual criticism.
I totally forgot to mention the big news out Buffalo yesterday with Murray and Bylsma getting booted from the Sabres, which I imagine stemmed from the report Eichel wouldn't renegotiate if the latter remained head coach. Supposedly, a number of players were fed up with him and his coaching style.
That organization is a mess.
Would suggest that Crawford is definitely not "junk"
Buffalo compounded their bad situation by also releasing their complete Scouting crew.
Quote from: Jockitch on April 21, 2017, 09:08:33 PM
Would suggest that Crawford is definitely not "junk"
Buffalo compounded their bad situation by also releasing their complete Scouting crew.
Jee-zus... Why would the do that? ???
Senators cough up the dreaded two goal lead and the Bruins appear to be have life going into the final frame. The Leafs are keeping pace with the Capitals, who continue to find ways to shoot themselves in the foot.
Hell of a dive by Kadri in the second period, too. What a clown.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 21, 2017, 03:58:21 PM
And then dumps on Crawford, a two-time Stanley Cup Champion, because his team couldn't score a goal to save its life. :D
Elliott is a streaky goaltender. That's not an insult. It's valid and factual criticism.
I totally forgot to mention the big news out Buffalo yesterday with Murray and Bylsma getting booted from the Sabres, which I imagine stemmed from the report Eichel wouldn't renegotiate if the latter remained head coach. Supposedly, a number of players were fed up with him and his coaching style.
That organization is a mess.
My comment on Crawford was EXTREME SARCASM lost on you guys. The point was, we're dumping on Elliott (2 T's!!!), for loosing in the playoffs, so all of a sudden the great year he had in goal doesn't count for nothing, he's a looser according to other posters here, not me, so if you (not me) are going to bash a good goaltender for loosing in the playoffs, then why not bash Crawford while you're at it...what's that, Crawford isn't a bad goalie, well hell, he lost, 4 straight just like Elliott, so if you're saying Elliott is a bad goalie, then so is Crawford.
Fact is NEITHER is a bad goalie, and BOTH are far better than anything that has ever strapped the pads on in a Jets uniform, especially this year.
Quote from: dd on April 22, 2017, 02:54:02 AM
My comment on Crawford was EXTREME SARCASM lost on you guys. The point was, we're dumping on Elliott (2 T's!!!), for loosing in the playoffs, so all of a sudden the great year he had in goal doesn't count for nothing, he's a looser according to other posters here, not me, so if you (not me) are going to bash a good goaltender for loosing in the playoffs, then why not bash Crawford while you're at it...what's that, Crawford isn't a bad goalie, well hell, he lost, 4 straight just like Elliott, so if you're saying Elliott is a bad goalie, then so is Crawford.
Fact is NEITHER is a bad goalie, and BOTH are far better than anything that has ever strapped the pads on in a Jets uniform, especially this year.
It'd be great if you learned to relax before logging on and replying. Oh, and to learn how to properly convey sarcasm. :-\
Again: I didn't bash Elliott. I criticized his play and explained why. And yeah, Crawford had a terrible first round, too. However, the Blackhawks were terrible as a whole, which I don't think can be said for the Flames, at least not in relative terms. They were able to score goals and didn't lose any lopsided games, much less get shut out in consecutive games on home ice. You can't just look at the two goalies and say they both were bad because their teams got swept, anyway. That's flawed reasoning and simply not a logical way of looking at it.
Crawford's stats in the first round: .902 SV%, 2.83 GAA
Elliott's stats in the first round: .880 SV%, 3.89GAASo, it's easy to see who was worse. And FWIW, Crawford's career playoff numbers are better, too. In about double the amount of games played.
Both are good goalies and nobody is denying that. Your assertion having Elliott would've led to the Jets being a playoff team is what's being contested, though. That's oversimplification.
Quote from: dd on April 22, 2017, 02:54:02 AM
My comment on Crawford was EXTREME SARCASM lost on you guys. The point was, we're dumping on Elliott (2 T's!!!), for loosing in the playoffs, so all of a sudden the great year he had in goal doesn't count for nothing, he's a looser according to other posters here, not me, so if you (not me) are going to bash a good goaltender for loosing in the playoffs, then why not bash Crawford while you're at it...what's that, Crawford isn't a bad goalie, well hell, he lost, 4 straight just like Elliott, so if you're saying Elliott is a bad goalie, then so is Crawford.
Fact is NEITHER is a bad goalie, and BOTH are far better than anything that has ever strapped the pads on in a Jets uniform, especially this year.
Neither guy came out of the gates as a super star goalie.
Your coment about a goalie winning games himself is just nuts..... A goalie that can win games himself is a goalie that plays with a team thats usually consistent in their play. And when a game goes south for the others a goalie can play great n keep them in the game or win it for them.
Our inconsistant play and our D without Myers all year pretty much is what caused us to miss.
If we had.... Buff, Morrissey, Trouba, Myers on D all year we get in.
4 solid guys that can play big min. And still have Toby in the mix.
Going out n spending on a vet goalie last year would be so stupid.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 22, 2017, 03:46:02 AM
It'd be great if you learned to relax before logging on and replying. Oh, and to learn how to properly convey sarcasm. :-\
Again: I didn't bash Elliott. I criticized his play and explained why. And yeah, Crawford had a terrible first round, too. However, the Blackhawks were terrible as a whole, which I don't think can be said for the Flames, at least not in relative terms. They were able to score goals and didn't lose any lopsided games, much less get shut out in consecutive games on home ice. You can't just look at the two goalies and say they both were bad because their teams got swept, anyway. That's flawed reasoning and simply not a logical way of looking at it.
Crawford's stats in the first round: .902 SV%, 2.83 GAA
Elliott's stats in the first round: .880 SV%, 3.89GAA
So, it's easy to see who was worse. And FWIW, Crawford's career playoff numbers are better, too. In about double the amount of games played.
Both are good goalies and nobody is denying that. Your assertion having Elliott would've led to the Jets being a playoff team is what's being contested, though. That's oversimplification.
Its not an oversimplification-I saw way, way, way too many soft blunderous goals go in our net his year , that took the wind out of our sails as a team , that a quality NHL netminder would have had, that would hVe made a difference between winning and loosing in at least a half dozen games I watched, that's 12 points and we re in the playoffs
Quote from: dd on April 22, 2017, 12:59:15 PM
Its not an oversimplification-I saw way, way, way too many soft blunderous goals go in our net his year , that took the wind out of our sails as a team , that a quality NHL netminder would have had, that would hVe made a difference between winning and loosing in at least a half dozen games I watched, that's 12 points and we re in the playoffs
Yeah, it is.
Extrapolation of your anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything. :D
Your claim the Jets were only a "quality NHL netminder" away from making the playoffs demonstrates ignorance on your part. The goaltending wasn't the only issue that took the wind out of the Jets' sails, anyway.
The Toronto/Caps series is pretty tight.
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Kadri seems to be pulling his weight.
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;D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 22, 2017, 04:22:05 PM
Yeah, it is.
Extrapolation of your anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything. :D
Your claim the Jets were only a "quality NHL netminder" away from making the playoffs demonstrates ignorance on your part. The goaltending wasn't the only issue that took the wind out of the Jets' sails, anyway.
If you think Helly or Hutch are the answer, you sir, are the ignorant one. The Jets had a number of issues this year- injuries, poor defensive system, power special teams, undisciplined/ too many chintzy penalties, and poor goaltending.
Guarantee you, Chevy addresses this issue this off season and we'll have a new starting netminder to start next season.
I also think there will be some changes in the coaching ranks to address our special teams, and overall team D play.
Quote from: Old Rusty on April 22, 2017, 07:08:39 PM
The Toronto/Caps series is pretty tight.
(http://i.imgur.com/P3V0lAB.gif)
Kadri seems to be pulling his weight.
(https://i.imgur.com/u16LChc.gif)
;D
Awesome .gifs! LOL :D
The Leafs have played really well in the first round, but I'm not surprised at how underwhelming the Capitals have played for considerable stretches.
Quote from: dd on April 22, 2017, 09:02:00 PM
If you think Helly or Hutch are the answer, you sir, are the ignorant one. The Jets had a number of issues this year- injuries, poor defensive system, power special teams, undisciplined/ too many chintzy penalties, and poor goaltending.
Guarantee you, Chevy addresses this issue this off season and we'll have a new starting netminder to start next season.
I also think there will be some changes in the coaching ranks to address our special teams, and overall team D play.
Please show me where I said that.
I don't think it's reasonable to write off Hellebuyck at such a young age, I've expressed as much, and most seem to agree. But I've already stated in the Jets thread Hutchinson isn't a good goalie at the NHL level. You'd know that if you bothered to take a look in that thread.
And Cheveldayoff has said he plans to address the goaltending situation in the off-season. That'll obviously help but the team needs to address more than just that in order to fight for a playoff berth next season.
But thanks for proving my point. A goalie like Elliott alone wouldn't have automatically made the Jets a playoff team.
Anyway, enough Jets. Statsny just gave the Blues a 3-1 on a huge goal in the third. Here's hoping the Wild get booted from the playoffs today.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 22, 2017, 09:32:13 PM
Statsny just gave the Blues a 3-1 on a huge goal in the third. Here's hoping the Wild get booted from the playoffs today.
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Canadian teams' playoff status: Two out, two advancing, one hanging on.
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Some great games yesterday.
Nobody is beating the Ducks in the West, though.
:) Amazing feeling!! What an electric feeling in Edmonton and atmosphere at home games is not even comparable else where. You watch these games most fan bases are quiet during game play. In Edmonton there is CHANTS and CHEERING every 2 minutes. Though I knew to expect this as we are every playoffs we make. Its been to loooong to feel this way! You drive to the game and every single car has car flags and huge 3x5 flags waving from there car, decels etc.. its seriously unreal feeling. Going back for rnd 2. I have to!! There is another 2,000 ppl just in lobby of the arena who pay 80.00 to watch game on screen. There si a dj after game and ppl dance and party all night in the arena. God im need to work the corner to pay for this playoff run :o :D
Respect to San Jose and especially Martin Jones. He really has changed my mind on how good he is. Five hole is his weak point other then that its all up hill battle vs him. We had to earn our respect from Sharks from adversity, grit, getting into those puck battles and best of all winning! To beat last year west champs seems surreal from a team who is 5th youngest in nhl and had 33 point difference with over half a roster not ever making the playoffs. It's been a successful year just making the playoffs. Everything was a bonus for me in playoffs to win a series, is just incredible feeling.
Ducks wont challenge us defensively or goal tending as much as SJ did. This will be a more high scoring series. Talbot will have to be huge for us. He has to be difference maker. I think we stack up vs Ducks greatly. Ducks wont be scoring those type of half board goal line goals as they did vs Cgy's terrible Elliot. But Ducks give us a tougher challenge vs there Offense then SJ did. So this should be a gooder! Both team's have a legit chance to win this one. Oilers took season series 3-2. I went to bed smiling and woke up same way!! ;D This is super exciting for a change haha.
OrangeCrush Lets Go Oilers
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 23, 2017, 03:02:08 PM
Some great games yesterday.
Nobody is beating the Ducks in the West, though.
I don't care what anyone says, Carlyle can coach playoffs!
Quote from: Old Rusty on April 23, 2017, 12:30:22 PM
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This is the greatest thing I've ever seen. :D
And the Bruins are out, too. Big win for the Senators. Unfortunately, I think it negatively affects the draft pick the Jets got for Stafford.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 23, 2017, 03:02:08 PM
Some great games yesterday.
Nobody is beating the Ducks in the West, though.
I agree, but I think the Oilers will give them a hell of a fight. That could mean one hell of a WCF.
Quote from: Jersey on April 23, 2017, 03:10:54 PM
:) Amazing feeling!! What an electric feeling in Edmonton and atmosphere at home games is not even comparable else where. You watch these games most fan bases are quiet during game play. In Edmonton there is CHANTS and CHEERING every 2 minutes. Though I knew to expect this as we are every playoffs we make. Its been to loooong to feel this way! You drive to the game and every single car has car flags and huge 3x5 flags waving from there car, decels etc.. its seriously unreal feeling. Going back for rnd 2. I have to!! There is another 2,000 ppl just in lobby of the arena who pay 80.00 to watch game on screen. There si a dj after game and ppl dance and party all night in the arena. God im need to work the corner to pay for this playoff run :o :D
Respect to San Jose and especially Martin Jones. He really has changed my mind on how good he is. Five hole is his weak point other then that its all up hill battle vs him. We had to earn our respect from Sharks from adversity, grit, getting into those puck battles and best of all winning! To beat last year west champs seems surreal from a team who is 5th youngest in nhl and had 33 point difference with over half a roster not ever making the playoffs. It's been a successful year just making the playoffs. Everything was a bonus for me in playoffs to win a series, is just incredible feeling.
Ducks wont challenge us defensively or goal tending as much as SJ did. This will be a more high scoring series. Talbot will have to be huge for us. He has to be difference maker. I think we stack up vs Ducks greatly. Ducks wont be scoring those type of half board goal line goals as they did vs Cgy's terrible Elliot. But Ducks give us a tougher challenge vs there Offense then SJ did. So this should be a gooder! Both team's have a legit chance to win this one. Oilers took season series 3-2. I went to bed smiling and woke up same way!! ;D This is super exciting for a change haha.
OrangeCrush Lets Go Oilers
yada yada yada BS greatest home this BS ducks gonna get dominated. Get real!
Believe I'm even cheering for the Oilers because of my hockey pool picks. Talbot has been a stud for me. You gotta calm down with some of these crazy comments though. Guess you weren't at either Jet home playoff game.
Quote from: Old Rusty on April 22, 2017, 07:08:39 PM
The Toronto/Caps series is pretty tight.
(http://i.imgur.com/P3V0lAB.gif)
Kadri seems to be pulling his weight.
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;D
LOL awesome Kardri what an ******* lol
Ah, the Bruins.
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And then there were eight.
Great first round. Should be an even better second round coming up!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 24, 2017, 03:00:34 AM
And then there were eight.
Great first round. Should be an even better second round coming up!
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Yep - EDM/DUCKS should be a war.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on April 23, 2017, 11:50:45 PM
yada yada yada BS greatest home this BS ducks gonna get dominated. Get real!
Believe I'm even cheering for the Oilers because of my hockey pool picks. Talbot has been a stud for me. You gotta calm down with some of these crazy comments though. Guess you weren't at either Jet home playoff game.
Wow.. Calm down about what? BTW, where did I say Oilers will dominate ducks? I gave different aspects of ducks game respect and challenge to young oilers and said both teams have a shot. Ducks play 2 1 2 system defensively and play loose for the fact of there strong transition game. But it bolds well for Oilers to take advantage of that with puck control and positioning.
This is not Jets thread, so I'm talk Oilers here loud n proud if I like. You can disagree like all year but it really don't matter.
Oilers atmosphere is getting alot of attention just like whiteout did. But this city didn't have party like atmosphere in arena' after game in a winter garden or 2000 ppl watching for 80.00 to be in the arena simply becuz mts doesn't have one, that's all. So I'm just commenting about my experience. Sheesh. Aswell jets fans did not have car flags hanging off there cars like in Edmonton. I'm telling you from experience in BOTH cities. You can ignore it if you like. Just talking about the vibe. One thing I love about Rogers place we get to watch post game coaches conferencet through glass. If you notice why u hear oilers fans in background in post game sportsnet.
Yes I went to game 4 of Jets VS ducks series upper deck row 9!
I never mentioned jets because they're not in playoffs. If you would ask me what I think of Wpg atmosphere... .I'd rate Jets fans loudest fans in regular season, I been to many nhl arena's. Playoffs jets fans can rival Oilers atmosphere, forsure. I'm not bias, I'll state truth whether ppl get mad or hate it.
You seem butt hurt if I say anything about Oilers but im simply just stating obvious. It's by far loudest NHL arena from start to finish in playoffs. Orange Crush had really caught on.
Glad you caught on to picking Oilers. 😂 😉 just teasing don't get upset. P. S. Like the caps VS pens series. That'll be gold.
Save the bickering, fellas. Let's focus on the hockey still being played.
Besides, anecdotal evidence isn't proof of anything, anyway.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 24, 2017, 05:38:11 AM
Save the bickering, fellas. Let's focus on the hockey still being played.
Besides, anecdotal evidence isn't proof of anything, anyway.
Nope now that you said that we are louder then Winnipeg 😉
Seriously tho. Who is everyone picking?
ANA VS Edm
StL VS Nash
Wash VS Pitts
OTT VS NYR
I'm cheering Ottawa in east since start
I'll take Edmonton, Nashville, Pittsburgh (I wanna be wrong), NYRangers
Kovalchuk eyeing return to the NHL, but it's a bit of a complicated situation:
http://www.tsn.ca/the-issues-at-play-in-kovalchuk-s-potential-nhl-return-1.732604 (http://www.tsn.ca/the-issues-at-play-in-kovalchuk-s-potential-nhl-return-1.732604)
Kinda surprised he wants to return at the age of 34.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 24, 2017, 04:25:14 PM
Kovalchuk eyeing return to the NHL, but it's a bit of a complicated situation:
http://www.tsn.ca/the-issues-at-play-in-kovalchuk-s-potential-nhl-return-1.732604 (http://www.tsn.ca/the-issues-at-play-in-kovalchuk-s-potential-nhl-return-1.732604)
Kinda surprised he wants to return at the age of 34.
Isn't NJ dealing with his cap hit still? That report says he had 12 years and $77 mil remaining on his 15 year deal signed in 2010. NJ has his rights, what would they be required to pay him? League min? What his old deal was for? It sounds like he has no bargaining rights...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 24, 2017, 05:04:09 PM
Isn't NJ dealing with his cap hit still? That report says he had 12 years and $77 mil remaining on his 15 year deal signed in 2010. NJ has his rights, what would they be required to pay him? League min? What his old deal was for? It sounds like he has no bargaining rights...
He basically doesn't. His status is technically retired, so he'd have to return to the Devils in order to play in the NHL again. From there, the Devils would have to be willing to negotiate with another team to make a trade.
Quote from: Jersey on April 24, 2017, 01:29:57 PM
Nope now that you said that we are louder then Winnipeg 😉
Seriously tho. Who is everyone picking?
ANA VS Edm
StL VS Nash
Wash VS Pitts
OTT VS NYR
I'm cheering Ottawa in east since start
I'll take Edmonton, Nashville, Pittsburgh (I wanna be wrong), NYRangers
ANA, NSH, PIT, NYR
Quote from: Jersey on April 24, 2017, 01:29:57 PM
Seriously tho.
ANA VS Edm
StL VS Nash
Wash VS Pitts
OTT VS NYR
I'm cheering Ottawa in east since start
I'll take Edmonton, Nashville, Pittsburgh (I wanna be wrong), NYRangers
To respond:
1. Would like to see Edmonton take the Ducks. Anyone, really. I just hate Cory and the Ducks. (Thinking Elton John)
The Ducks are super strong, brain says: DUX
2. Predators should take this, even if Jake Allan is at .956 (how????). Brain says: PREDS
3. Heart: Washington. PLEASE take down the Penguins.
Brain says: PENGUINS
4. The Sens are juiced and in a groove. So are the Rangers. Loving Zucharello, the dude is pure money. But the heart wants our former Moose coach to give 'er, go for a rip on the Sens.
But the heart also wants the Sens to become much more than expected by our beloved yet witless TSN.ca overlords.
Brain: NEW YORK
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 24, 2017, 05:14:09 PM
He basically doesn't. His status is technically retired, so he'd have to return to the Devils in order to play in the NHL again. From there, the Devils would have to be willing to negotiate with another team to make a trade.
But what pay will he be entitled to? A negotiated deal, no doubt, but NJ holds all the cards now, right? They could, effectively, pay him league min, right? What contract length to they retain his rights for? Does anything from his former contract hold through his retirement? Or is it all back on the table? Can they sign him to a one year, league min deal and force that on him? And then trade him to another team? Or, by having to eat the cap hit from his contract for the last few years, do they have any term rights?
Has anyone laid out the full scenario for his return?
Quote from: theaardvark on April 24, 2017, 07:19:10 PM
But what pay will he be entitled to? A negotiated deal, no doubt, but NJ holds all the cards now, right? They could, effectively, pay him league min, right? What contract length to they retain his rights for? Does anything from his former contract hold through his retirement? Or is it all back on the table? Can they sign him to a one year, league min deal and force that on him? And then trade him to another team? Or, by having to eat the cap hit from his contract for the last few years, do they have any term rights?
Has anyone laid out the full scenario for his return?
Read the link I posted. McKenzie outlines a number of outcomes via Twitter and those are included in the link.
It seems to be a pretty complicated situation, which is summed up in the last paragraph of the article:
"As long as Kovalchuk remains on the VRL, his rights cannot be traded. In order for a trade to occur, he'd have to be activated from the VRL by signing, so in order for a trade to be facilitated, Kovalchuk must ink a new deal with the Devils first."
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 24, 2017, 07:59:51 PM
Read the link I posted. McKenzie outlines a number of outcomes via Twitter and those are included in the link.
It seems to be a pretty complicated situation, which is summed up in the last paragraph of the article: "As long as Kovalchuk remains on the VRL, his rights cannot be traded. In order for a trade to occur, he'd have to be activated from the VRL by signing, so in order for a trade to be facilitated, Kovalchuk must ink a new deal with the Devils first."
I did read it. Nowhere does it mention how much term a team has on a VRL player's rights, or if there is any required qualifying salary that must be offered. I assume its like an RFA, where if the team does not tender the player a contract, he becomes a FA. What is that minimum qualifying offer? $ and term? I can't see them wanting him back, I assume that he will be signed and traded, the key is how little they can sign him for, and how long, that would make him attractive in a trade. Does he have any rights to ask for a no move / no trade?
Quote from: theaardvark on April 24, 2017, 09:26:47 PM
I did read it. Nowhere does it mention how much term a team has on a VRL player's rights, or if there is any required qualifying salary that must be offered. I assume its like an RFA, where if the team does not tender the player a contract, he becomes a FA. What is that minimum qualifying offer? $ and term? I can't see them wanting him back, I assume that he will be signed and traded, the key is how little they can sign him for, and how long, that would make him attractive in a trade. Does he have any rights to ask for a no move / no trade?
McKenzie listed all the possible scenarios based on this particular set of circumstances, which differs from a player currently under contract in the NHL.
Kovalchuk's not a free agent in standard terms because he "retired" from the NHL while still under contract. While the contract was terminated, he remains property of the Devils, so they hold most - if not all - of the cards in terms of his NHL future.
And he wouldn't be subject to a minimum qualifying offer, anyway. Only RFAs are eligible for that.
The NHL minimum salary is a one-year contract @ $650K for the upcoming 2017-18 season (http://www.colliganhockey.com/nhl-cba-minimum-nhl-salary/ (http://www.colliganhockey.com/nhl-cba-minimum-nhl-salary/)). I imagine he and his agent would ask for considerably more and I can't see the Devils lowballing him.
It'll be something worth watching unfold in the off-season.
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OIL in 7
PREDS in 7
CAPS in 7
OTT in 6
Ducks in 6 Preds in 6 Rangers in 7 the Caps in 5
Man, I hope McLellan wins this one: http://www.tsn.ca/babcock-mclellan-tortorella-voted-jack-adams-finalists-1.735767 (http://www.tsn.ca/babcock-mclellan-tortorella-voted-jack-adams-finalists-1.735767)
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Toronto Maple Leafs head coach Mike Babcock and Edmonton Oilers head coach Todd McLellan have been voted finalists for the Jack Adams Award, along with John Tortorella of the Columbus Blue Jackets.
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Man, I hope McLellan wins this one: http://www.tsn.ca/babcock-mclellan-tortorella-voted-jack-adams-finalists-1.735767 (http://www.tsn.ca/babcock-mclellan-tortorella-voted-jack-adams-finalists-1.735767)
C'mon McLellan!
Quote from: Old Rusty on April 27, 2017, 12:09:44 PM
C'mon McLellan!
Then he can give the trophy to McDavid as a thank-you :P
Two really good games to open up the second round last night. The Predators are playing well but one thing with the Blues: is it just me or does that team look like it's skating through mud? Both the Wild and the Predators seem considerably faster.
Huge win for the Oilers. As soon as the Ducks came back after being down 3-1 I expected them to take over the game, but the Oilers prevailed. Loved seeing Kesler cower in fear after hacking at Kassian. He's such a turd.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 27, 2017, 12:56:32 PM
Then he can give the trophy to McDavid a a thank-you :P
Wow you really don't watch much hockey but Jets do you? Sj shut McDavid out for most part, the entire team stepped up. They won last night same way. Connor will be huge in this series tho they can't contain him like SJ did. Like any team with superstar you're bound to do good things but there is more then just Connor to oilers.
Our goalie... Like all year Talbot has been so good. Draisital was also 8th in nhl scoring. We had 5, 20 plus goal scorers. 5th most physical team in NHL. A top end PP and a team that improved defensively by landslide. Todd had coached this team in new system in his second year as coach we had 33 point differential, 2nd in our division, 103 points. Every coach needs good players to execute.... But he is all about DEFENSE first. He preaches it.
I know you think ducks will best everyone and it hurts you Oilers doing well 😉 but let's atleast try and be honest. We stack up very well VS Ducks for reasons I said prior. We already accomplished so much this year can only hope it continues. Hurry up Sunday it's gonna be nuts
ORANGE Crush.
Quote from: Jersey on April 27, 2017, 03:57:37 PM
Wow you really don't watch much hockey but Jets do you? Sj shut McDavid out for most part, the entire team stepped up. They won last night same way. Connor will be huge in this series tho they can't contain him like SJ did. Like any team with superstar you're bound to do good things but there is more then just Connor to oilers.
Our goalie... Like all year Talbot has been so good. Draisital was also 8th in nhl scoring. We had 5, 20 plus goal scorers. 5th most physical team in NHL. A top end PP and a team that improved defensively by landslide. Todd had coached this team in new system in his second year as coach we had 33 point differential, 2nd in our division, 103 points. Every coach needs good players to execute.... But he is all about DEFENSE first. He preaches it.
I know you think ducks will best everyone and it hurts you Oilers doing well 😉 but let's atleast try and be honest. We stack up very well VS Ducks for reasons I said prior. We already accomplished so much this year can only hope it continues. Hurry up Sunday it's gonna be nuts
ORANGE Crush.
#triggered
A just so you know, blue_or_die was joking. Good rant, though. :D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 27, 2017, 04:00:14 PM
#triggered
A just so you know, blue_or_die was joking. Good rant, though. :D
Nah I've noticed what he's wrote all year :) But I just like to bring in honesty of convo. I loooove it. He's right in sense McDavid is just GREATNESS tho 😉 haha
Game 2 will be our most difficult. They can't lose and they'll be ready and willing. It'll be interesting to see how Oilers match what ducks bring.
Quote from: Jersey on April 27, 2017, 03:57:37 PM
Wow you really don't watch much hockey but Jets do you? Sj shut McDavid out for most part, the entire team stepped up. They won last night same way. Connor will be huge in this series tho they can't contain him like SJ did. Like any team with superstar you're bound to do good things but there is more then just Connor to oilers.
Our goalie... Like all year Talbot has been so good. Draisital was also 8th in nhl scoring. We had 5, 20 plus goal scorers. 5th most physical team in NHL. A top end PP and a team that improved defensively by landslide. Todd had coached this team in new system in his second year as coach we had 33 point differential, 2nd in our division, 103 points. Every coach needs good players to execute.... But he is all about DEFENSE first. He preaches it.
I know you think ducks will best everyone and it hurts you Oilers doing well 😉 but let's atleast try and be honest. We stack up very well VS Ducks for reasons I said prior. We already accomplished so much this year can only hope it continues. Hurry up Sunday it's gonna be nuts
ORANGE Crush.
Hahahahahahahaha
I wasn't even trying to troll you but hey, if I get a response like that every time... ;)
Anyway, even though my comment was tongue-in-cheek, the awards are based on regular season play, and McD made all the difference in getting Ed in a playoff spot, so how he fared against the Sharks is irrelevant. I watched a handful of Oiler games and watched him carry your team. He was certainly an incredible gift to the franchise.
Also, pretty sure you're confusing me with someone else, as I've never made this conjecture before. Others have, though. Probably because it's obvious...
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Some great games yesterday.
Nobody is beating the Ducks in the West, though.
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You wrote that 😉 hehe. You couldn't troll me due to I'm feeling on cloud 9. It's magical I just like to always give helping hand when I see ridiculous comments :)
Yes I'm aware it doesn't count but in playoffs again it shows oilers are winning without McD needing to be the man.
Oilers also won many games from Talbot and a 💯 over haul defensively.
Again you seem to think it's all McD. Every coach needs good players. You seem to discredit that, like other jack Adams coaches didn't benefit from superstars 😂
Regardless I think Torts is winning it period he deserves it.
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Some great games yesterday.
Nobody is beating the Ducks in the West, though.
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You wrote that 😉 hehe. You couldn't troll me due to I'm feeling on cloud 9. It's magical I just like to always give helping hand when I see ridiculous comments :)
Yes I'm aware it doesn't count but in playoffs again it shows oilers are winning without McD needing to be the man.
Oilers also won many games from Talbot and a 💯 over haul defensively.
Again you seem to think it's all McD. Every coach needs good players. You seem to discredit that, like other jack Adams coaches didn't benefit from superstars 😂
Regardless I think Torts is winning it period he deserves it.
? Yes I know I said that, but that wasn't dissing the Oilers, that was a statement that Anaheim is the best team left in the whole west, including St Louis and Nashville.
You sure you're not trigged/trolled? lol. I don't actually think the team and coach are "all McD". I said McDavid once, as a joke, to provoke a reaction. Worked. lmao.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 27, 2017, 07:26:50 PM
? Yes I know I said that, but that wasn't dissing the Oilers, that was a statement that Anaheim is the best team left in the whole west, including St Louis and Nashville.
You sure you're not trigged/trolled? lol. I don't actually think the team and coach are "all McD". I said McDavid once, as a joke, to provoke a reaction. Worked. lmao.
No. I'm not triggered, how could I be? :) Dont get it twisted because I typed a lot, you should know I like to talk in person too :D Im a talker.
Orange Crush!! I just truly know how you feel (felt) and what u said from prior posts in reg season :) So I wanted to help you. I think its clear you look at Ducks record and thought they're best in west (No i dont think edm is, not yet...they have to prove there worth). So I wrote about what Ducks did vs Cgy doesn't excite me. They're not ready yet as defense and tending is there issue all year (Cgy). We cake walked them all year long to boot. Gudereau has not been good enough for them either.
I personally think Preds are team to beat in west! There defensive structure and goal tending is top notch. They worry me if we are to advance and be grateful to play them. But you gotta respect EVERYONE in playoffs. Teams are on same travel schedule, sleeping patterns, equal games vs each other. Back to Preds they wait for there chance and they got a few great young kids who can snipe. Avardson, Forsberg, Johansson (meh) vet in Fisher and Neal (Offense). But my beloved Oilers are in 2nd round. That's what truly matters, its been long time coming and we are gonna be excited, happy maybe to some come across braggish... but excuse us, its been 10 years! We're having our moment...like Jets did for a week in playoffs. Im enjoying every day :) Sunday cant come fast enough!!
Im excited and very interested to see how Capitals play Penguins. Can Ovie and caps lift some demons. I have them to win cup for pete sakes. lol.
The Predators were probably the hottest team going into round 2 after absolutely dominating the top seed in the Western Conference. The Blues did give them a run for their money last night and if not for a botched poke check by Allen, OT could've made it anyone's game to win. Game 2 should be interesting.
The Ducks are arguably the top team remaining in the West at this stage, at least when you look at the overall makeup of the team. Talent, depth, veteran experience... I mean, five straight Pacific Division titles alone speaks to their consistency and success. The Oilers stole a huge win last night in Anaheim, so the Ducks will be smartin' tomorrow and if last night's shenanigans late in the game are any indication, they're going to do all they can to get under the visiting team's skin early and often.
It's really hard to gauge a series after one game.
Ottawa tough sell in playoffs. Yikes.
This article let's you know where playoff fever is. I hope that win puts butt's in seats. Go Sens in east!
Im actually going to be in the game 3 concourse pass. We are in huge winter garden which is part of the arena you walk into before you enter rink concourse. DJ plays music before, intermission, after game and turns into huge dance party with drinks and food! $85.00 a ticket just to smell the arena ice and hear atmosphere. It's pretty electric though with 2,000 others.
Oilers have sold out there 3rd straight watch away party at Rogers Place in 30 minutes.18,000 plus. But I won't make that on time..nor did I get tix 😡 Can't waaaaait to arrive later tonight.
But 2,000 empty seats for a second-round playoff matchup against an Original Six opponent? That almost seems sacrilegious in Canada.
This feels especially true when you contrast the scene in Ottawa on Thursday night with the situation involving the other Canadian team still alive in the playoffs. In Edmonton, fans are paying $85 for something called a ?Concourse Pass? at Rogers Place - which allows you nothing but access to the arena and offers no view of the ice surface.
For roughly the same price, Ottawa fans turned down the opportunity that would have given them an actual seat inside the venue.
The Oilers also sold out a viewing party inside their arena for a road playoff game in 30 minutes. The Senators could not sell out a home playoff game with about 72 hours? notice.
While they?ve caught playoff fever in Edmonton, it appears as though the fans in Ottawa are suffering through a condition known as Senators malaise.
Brutal situation in Ottawa. How you can't sell out a second round home playoff game is ridiculous.
What's equally ridiculous is the Pegulas in Buffalo. Denied permission to speak to Coyotes' GM John Chayka on Wednesday. Denied permission to speak to Rangers' AGM Chris Drury. Plenty of solid options out there but you opt to try poaching...? The Sabres are a dumpster fire right now.
Ducks' D Bieksa out for game 2: http://www.tsn.ca/ducks-bieksa-out-for-game-2-1.737695 (http://www.tsn.ca/ducks-bieksa-out-for-game-2-1.737695)
Pretty significant loss to their back end.
Oilers take a 2-0 series lead back to Edmonton. Huge win tonight! :o
The Avalanche and the Canucks get absolutely hosed in the draft lottery. :D
http://www.tsn.ca/devils-win-lottery-will-pick-first-overall-in-2017-nhl-draft-1.738716 (http://www.tsn.ca/devils-win-lottery-will-pick-first-overall-in-2017-nhl-draft-1.738716)
2017 NHL Draft Lottery
1 - New Jersey Devils
2 - Philadelphia Flyers
3 - Dallas Stars
4 - Colorado Avalanche
5 - Vancouver Canucks
6 - Las Vegas Golden Knights
7 - Arizona Coyotes
8 - Buffalo Sabres
9 - Detroit Red Wings
10 - Florida Panthers
11 - Los Angeles Kings
12 - Carolina Hurricanes
13 - Winnipeg Jets
14 - Tampa Bay Lightning
15 - New York Islanders
Jets actually went up. Zero luck in Wpg. Philly just rolls to #2. ****... That was impressive.
Taylor Hall effect is live and well in jersey.
Canucks get screwed 😂 love it.
Quote from: Jersey on April 30, 2017, 12:42:37 AM
Jets actually went up. Zero luck in Wpg. Philly just rolls to #2. ****... That was impressive.
Taylor Hall effect is live and well in jersey.
Canucks get screwed 😂 love it.
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Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 30, 2017, 12:55:22 AM
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Just weird the luck they'd move up. Philly moves all way to #2. Ugh
Joicey going to love Patrick. Kid is gifted. I skate with him in summer with wpg boys. At ol highlander (we still call it that). Hall will be excited
Quote from: Jersey on April 30, 2017, 01:00:30 AM
Just weird the luck they'd move up. Philly moves all way to #2. Ugh
They had a 2.7% chance and moved down a position to 13th overall. That's how a lottery works. What's weird about it?
Besides, the Jets got their luck last year.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 30, 2017, 01:02:44 AM
They had a 2.7% chance and moved down a position to 13th overall. That's how a lottery works. What's weird about it?
Besides, the Jets got their luck last year.
Just sucks Atleast stay at there position lol. But yup it's way of luck
Not a deep draft this year though.
Quote from: Jersey on April 30, 2017, 01:05:28 AM
Just sucks Atleast stay at there position lol. But yup it's way of luck
Not a deep draft this year though.
Moving down one position isn't a huge loss. It's not a deep draft, like you said. ;)
Crazy fortunes for the Devils and the Flyers today.
Quote from: Jersey on April 30, 2017, 01:02:29 AM
Joicey going to love Patrick. Kid is gifted. I skate with him in summer with wpg boys. At ol highlander (we still call it that). Hall will be excited
Not sure if Patrick goes #1 anymore. Hard to maintain the position missing most of the season.
He's #1 forsure. And he's still at top. His ppg are top notch and scouts have him rated #1 again. 👍. He's so talented. And honestly such a nice person on top of that.
TSN's most recent rankings still have Patrick going first overall:
http://www.tsn.ca/patrick-goes-no-1-in-tsn-s-post-season-mock-draft-1.720569 (http://www.tsn.ca/patrick-goes-no-1-in-tsn-s-post-season-mock-draft-1.720569)
Sportsnet has Patrick going first overall, too:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/sportsnets-top-10-nhl-draft-prospect-rankings-april/ (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/sportsnets-top-10-nhl-draft-prospect-rankings-april/)
What an atmosphere. But ****... That loss stung. Coming back to tie it and Talby had bad game. 19 sog 5 went passed him. Gibson was stellar. Gotta give credit. My head is aching from the noise. Sleep time
Jersey you can thank me for this later...
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Jersey you can thank me for this later...
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Legendary. :D
Subban always puts on a good show.
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The ghost of Milbury's shoe, mixed in with a little Guardians OTG:
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Typical choke job by the Capitals... Momentum is all Penguins now. I wonder if PPG Paints Arena has a no re-entry policy.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on May 01, 2017, 06:29:52 PM
Jersey you can thank me for this later...
https://www.mcjesus.ca/
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I've seen that. Haha. But ugh those are ugly shirts for my liking. The church goers in Edmonton get very upset with ppl wearing McJesus or using that name etc... I don't take it serious, it's total play of the name ppl having fun with it. But man it starts big arguments lol.
Crosby diagnosed with a concussion, will miss game 4:
http://www.tsn.ca/penguins-crosby-to-miss-game-4-with-concussion-1.740667 (http://www.tsn.ca/penguins-crosby-to-miss-game-4-with-concussion-1.740667)
Niskanen will not face further discipline for cross-check:
http://www.tsn.ca/niskanen-won-t-face-discipline-for-crosby-hit-1.740480 (http://www.tsn.ca/niskanen-won-t-face-discipline-for-crosby-hit-1.740480)
Crappy sequence last night and it's really changed the complexion of this series. I have a feeling game 4 could get messy. :-\
It should get messy. The game looses its leading scorer and arguably best player due to a head shot and no further discipline taken?!? Complete and total joke. Who's next McDavid??
I m not a big Crosby fan, I think he whines too much, but even a blind man can see that the game can't loose its stars due to head shots. Football has taken steps in changing its rules on this regard, but hockey continues to drag it's pitiful, sorry *ss on it!!
I hope the Penguins dress Sostito and he does a number on the Capitals--old time hockey, if the league can't deal with it, then the players will!!
It didn't look like a dirty hit.. Crosby was skating by the net and certainly wasn't the defensemans fault.
Quote from: dd on May 03, 2017, 04:34:26 AM
It should get messy. The game looses its leading scorer and arguably best player due to a head shot and no further discipline taken?!? Complete and total joke. Who's next McDavid??
I m not a big Crosby fan, I think he whines too much, but even a blind man can see that the game can't loose its stars due to head shots. Football has taken steps in changing its rules on this regard, but hockey continues to drag it's pitiful, sorry *ss on it!!
I hope the Penguins dress Sostito and he does a number on the Capitals--old time hockey, if the league can't deal with it, then the players will!!
It wasn't a head shot. It was a sequence that led to an unfortunate result.
And why would the Penguins call up Sestito? He's a plug and calling him up only further weakens their roster. Remember what happened the last time he was called up? Enstrom's season ended.
Another typical, emotion-fuelled rant devoid of reason. :D
This is after parties in and out of the arena after Oilers wins. It was truly electric https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO6ornC1pDY
🤔 controversial goals all night.. But for me goaltender interference as stated in rule book. Skate on skate is no goal outside paint. Well.... I'm left confused.. So was sportsnet panel. Ron McLean etc.
Nothing we could do about offside goal, no challenge left.
And OT goal. Why did they wave off icing? Mam very weird officiating yesterday. I never blame refs and I won't but strange reviews and no calls didn't help. But Larson should not have given up on ice..
Fleury was a machine again last night. His value has sure climbed since the playoffs began.
Smart not trading Fluery early, that move is paying off now. And his value is increasing.
Question, is it that you have to expose one goalie, or that you can only protect one goalie? Two completely different scenarios exist based on that.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 04, 2017, 03:46:36 PM
Smart not trading Fluery early, that move is paying off now. And his value is increasing.
Question, is it that you have to expose one goalie, or that you can only protect one goalie? Two completely different scenarios exist based on that.
You can only protect one goalie.
Watched the third period of the Sens-Rangers game last night. Hockey was so-so compared to the other series', but man the hatred between the two teams was fun to watch! Couldn't keep 'em off each other. I had zero interest in the series before yesterday but I'm definitely gonna crack a beer and watch game 5 tomorrow afternoon!
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 05, 2017, 12:48:42 PM
Watched the third period of the Sens-Rangers game last night. Hockey was so-so compared to the other series', but man the hatred between the two teams was fun to watch! Couldn't keep 'em off each other. I had zero interest in the series before yesterday but I'm definitely gonna crack a beer and watch game 5 tomorrow afternoon!
That game got greasy last night. The Senators' bench near the end of the third was hilarious. Looked like a beer league team. :D
Oh boy...you OK Jersey?
That's gotta hurt...
The oil is a joke!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 06, 2017, 02:50:14 PM
The oil is a joke!
That was a brutal choke job last night.
Quote from: The Zipp on May 06, 2017, 01:14:57 PM
Oh boy...you OK Jersey?
That's gotta hurt...
Absolute Heart breaker :(
The reviews against us on clear cut goalie interference don't help. Like fighting two thing's haha. But regardless you gotta win those games, there is 60 minutes, plus we also had OT to try and snipe and recover. I dropped to floor in dis belief.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 06, 2017, 02:50:14 PM
The oil is a joke!
Funny if I said "Jets are a joke" exact words you'd all be butt hurt ;) crying, whining and getting mad at me. This isn't a OILERS BOOOARD WAHHH.
But regardless so proud of my Oilers. Great season no matter what. :) Hate is good, it just mean's we have gained success.
Quote from: Jersey on May 07, 2017, 02:54:53 PM
Absolute Heart breaker :(
The reviews against us on clear cut goalie interference don't help. Like fighting two thing's haha. But regardless you gotta win those games, there is 60 minutes, plus we also had OT to try and snipe and recover. I dropped to floor in dis belief.
Seriously when I saw they lost the first thing I thought of was "poor Jesse"...you are right gotta play the 60 minutes
Quote from: The Zipp on May 07, 2017, 05:02:16 PM
Seriously when I saw they lost the first thing I thought of was "poor Jesse"...you are right gotta play the 60 minutes
Haha. Oh I know my dad called me next day. When they tied it at 3. He's like I thought Jesse must be crying. Lol. I was like pretty close. All my friends texting me Jesse are u ok? 😂 . Like no, not really. But hopefully they can do something great for us Oil fans
The coach should have called a timeout. Forwards couldn't get he puck out of their zone. Anaheim got away with a lot of calls . Anaheim has to be the dirtiest team in the playoffs
Still 24 minutes left and the oilers got me 13 points in one game alone so far for my pool... yeah!
LOL Ducks... :D
To think the Oilers could've closed out the series tonight.
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Capitals force game 7. In pretty dominant and convincing fashion.
The Penguins looked horrible tonight.
How did Crosby not get pulled from the game? Are they going to let him turn his brain to mush?
Possibly. Let the boys play. ::) :'(
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Well, it's official: http://www.tsn.ca/kovalchuk-wants-to-return-devils-open-to-sign-and-trade-1.746744 (http://www.tsn.ca/kovalchuk-wants-to-return-devils-open-to-sign-and-trade-1.746744)
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The Ilya Kovalchuk sweepstakes are on.
TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun reports Kovalchuk definitely wants to return to the NHL next season, and the New Jersey Devils are willing to facilitate a trade to make it happen.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 09, 2017, 06:14:56 AM
How did Crosby not get pulled from the game? Are they going to let him turn his brain to mush?
Quite the head scratcher, eh? According to Bill Daly, flying head first into the boards doesn't qualify: http://www.tsn.ca/concussion-spotters-didn-t-have-authority-to-remove-crosby-1.746710 (http://www.tsn.ca/concussion-spotters-didn-t-have-authority-to-remove-crosby-1.746710)
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"Depending on the mechanism of injury, 'slow to get up' does not trigger mandatory removal," NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told Kevin Allen of USA TODAY Sports. "The protocol has to be interpreted literally to mandate a removal. 'Ice' as compared to 'boards' is in there for a reason. It's the result of a study on our actual experiences over a number of years. 'Ice' has been found to be a predictor of concussions -- 'boards' has not been."
Seems strange to think boards aren't included. It's equally as strange to not take into account a player's concussion history.
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According to NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly, the league's concussion spotter determined the incident didn't match the criteria necessary to pull a player from the game. He added, however, that Crosby was checked for a concussion despite head coach Mike Sullivan saying otherwise.
???
Stars acquire Bishop's rights from Kings: http://www.tsn.ca/stars-acquire-pending-ufa-g-bishop-from-kings-1.747186 (http://www.tsn.ca/stars-acquire-pending-ufa-g-bishop-from-kings-1.747186)
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The Dallas Stars acquired the rights to pending unrestricted free-agent goalie Ben Bishop from the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for a fourth-round pick in the 2017 NHL Draft on Tuesday.
And the Capitals crap the bed again. This time at home. :D
Ducks hang on to take game 7. I guess sixth time's the charm.
Should be an exciting third round!
Ducks deserved that Game 7 win.
I know we gotta learn to lose before winning in playoffs, but it hurts all same right now. Im proud of a exciting run! Love u my Oil!!!
McDavid held to just 9 points in the 2 rounds. However, at just 20 yrs. old & along with Draisaitl, the Oilers certainly have the Malkin & Crosby duo in Oiler colors going forward
Ducks wore the Oilers down with savvy play & if not for Talbot, the series may not have gone 7.
Corsi numbers, apparently said ..... the only period in the 7 gm. series where the Penguins held 50% or better possession, was in last nights final period -- WOW !!
Ovechkin disappears in the 7th & a few other games ....... can anyone take this guy off the Caps hands
Losing game 5 completely lost us series. Those are lessons we have to learn
Not necessarily NHL related but Tyson Barrie is out of the IIHF WC. Apparently, he got hurt wrestling at the hotel. :-\
EDIT: link added (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/barrie-out-for-tournament-1.4109956 (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/barrie-out-for-tournament-1.4109956))
Quote from: Jockitch on May 11, 2017, 03:23:38 PM
McDavid held to just 9 points in the 2 rounds. However, at just 20 yrs. old & along with Draisaitl, the Oilers certainly have the Malkin & Crosby duo in Oiler colors going forward
Ducks wore the Oilers down with savvy play & if not for Talbot, the series may not have gone 7.
Corsi numbers, apparently said ..... the only period in the 7 gm. series where the Penguins held 50% or better possession, was in last nights final period -- WOW !!
Ovechkin disappears in the 7th & a few other games ....... can anyone take this guy off the Caps hands
INteresting note from this mornings "Big Show", Vegas has the cap space to take Ovi... perfect fit, really... and can you imagine the marketing Vegas can do in Russia? Maybe Trump can get in on it with his connections and make a Vegas casino that can make money... ;)
Ovi & Vegas ....... not likely, though I agree with the marketing aspect.
Ovi has a base salary of $10.M, computes to a Cap Hit of a tad over $9.5.M, thru the 2020-2021 season ---- OUCH !!!
As the fellas on the 1290 Big Show discussed ........ the Caps don't want a putt load of future Draft Picks stretched over time ----- they would want a player(s) now.
Mind ya ..... if the Knights due grab an appealing player or 2 in the dispersal draft ......................... NAH !!
The Caps are extremely good & should contend for the Cup again next year & may finally win with a few tweeks & a lot of luck.
However ....... if Gretzky can be traded, then Ovi could be. Maybe Detroit, Buffalo or Arizona (definately a contender).
Quote from: Jockitch on May 11, 2017, 03:23:38 PM
Ovechkin disappears in the 7th & a few other games ....... can anyone take this guy off the Caps hands
::)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 11, 2017, 02:42:04 AM
And the Capitals crap the bed again. This time at home. :D
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Sabres hire new GM: http://www.tsn.ca/sabres-name-botterill-general-manager-1.748921 (http://www.tsn.ca/sabres-name-botterill-general-manager-1.748921)
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BUFFALO, N.Y. - The Buffalo Sabres hired Pittsburgh Penguins associate general manager Jason Botterill on Thursday to oversee a franchise that owner Terry Pegula criticized for lacking structure and discipline.
Great stuff OLD RUSTY ........ last one is like a drop the mic moment pic.
Scheif gets his 1st goal in the last game of the 7 preliminary matches ....... but his intense nature on the ice sure makes me smile a JET fan smile
NHL playoffs has seen the Pens a bit depleted .......... both Sens & Pens getting great goaltending
Kessler is so edgy & I'm at times shocked at what the refs are letting happen ........ however I am enjoying the non calls vs the reg. season frustrating officiating
Would enjoy seeing the Preds in the final
If the Penguins manage to repeat, Fleury for Conn Smythe. He's been phenomenal.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 17, 2017, 08:06:00 PM
If the Penguins manage to repeat, Fleury for Conn Smythe. He's been phenomenal.
Until he wasn't...
Quote from: theaardvark on May 18, 2017, 12:38:23 PM
Until he wasn't...
::)
I take you didn't watch that game last night. He was hardly the reason why the Penguins lost again.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 18, 2017, 03:52:08 PM
::)
I take you didn't watch that game last night. He was hardly the reason why the Penguins lost again.
he. Etta only played a role in sucking as a team. The wrap around goal was weak!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 18, 2017, 03:52:08 PM
::)
I take you didn't watch that game last night. He was hardly the reason why the Penguins lost again.
By the time I tuned in, it was 4-0... so, no, I didn't get to see much of MAF. I'm happy, though, because that may have dropped his asking price a bit ;)
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 18, 2017, 04:59:30 PM
The wrap around goal was weak!
That I did see on the replays, and I agree...
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 18, 2017, 04:59:30 PM
The wrap around goal was weak!
Watch how it happened. Fleury got zero support last night.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 18, 2017, 08:54:09 PM
Watch how it happened. Fleury got zero support last night.
Fleury was also letting in some weak goals. 1st goal was rebound off boards he was not even at his post and boom banked in off him and in. 4th goal, Fluery was not even in the game, seemed rattled and just messed that time right up. The entire team was ****, Fluery had his role. 4 Goals on 9 shots... eek.
poor ottawa not selling there home games out but still well over 18,500 for the games! Its big attendance for small market city. Besides one playoff game of 16,000 plus...they've been well over 18,000. Sens ahve played well on home ice they need to take care of it vs Pens.
Ott beat pens 2 outta 3 times this year!
Getzlaf got fined $10,000 for saying something--what the heck did he say??
Quote from: dd on May 21, 2017, 07:20:25 PM
Getzlaf got fined $10,000 for saying something--what the heck did he say??
something about his mother
I doubt that. I can't believe players can't even swear anymore in the heat of the battle in professional sports. I ve played and heard all sorts of language , it s the way it's been forever. Colin Campbell is a hypocrite for administering this fine as he had a trash mouth just like everyone else in his playing days.
Pretty sure it was a homophobic slur...
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/05/ryan-getzlaf-apology-homophobic-slur-not-nearly-enough
I don't know what he said but I don't see why the over reaction over this . I ve played in sponge hockey games where the language is pretty blue --this is the NHL!!!--sometimes things get heated and things are said, big deal. It's a hockey game not the opera!!
....and there are some things that shouldn't be said...even in the heat of the moment.
Quote from: dd on May 21, 2017, 11:39:34 PM
I don't know what he said but I don't see why the over reaction over this . I ve played in sponge hockey games where the language is pretty blue --this is the NHL!!!--sometimes things get heated and things are said, big deal. It's a hockey game not the opera!!
Exactly, it's
the NHL, a professional league. Players are expected act in a professional manner.
Quote from: dd on May 21, 2017, 11:39:34 PM
I don't know what he said but I don't see why the over reaction over this . I ve played in sponge hockey games where the language is pretty blue --this is the NHL!!!--sometimes things get heated and things are said, big deal. It's a hockey game not the opera!!
Getzlaf gets paid to play, this is not beer league or spongee. He makes more in a game than most people make in a year. And he has a responsibility (and probably moral clauses) that govern his behaviour.
There are plenty of expletives you can use to beak off to an opponent or a ref. Racial or sexists slurs are not on that list.
You can see what type of person Getzlaff is on the ice and bench . When they were down 3-1 , with a few seconds to go, they tried to start a fight 3 players on their team against one. A real captain. Too bad he just doesn't play the game , he might get his team playing hockey.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 22, 2017, 05:34:45 AM
Getzlaf gets paid to play, this is not beer league or spongee. He makes more in a game than most people make in a year. And he has a responsibility (and probably moral clauses) that govern his behaviour.
There are plenty of expletives you can use to beak off to an opponent or a ref. Racial or sexists slurs are not on that list.
Let's not confuse being a professional athlete with conducting yourself professionally with a code of ethics like a doctor, lawyer, engineer etc. They are paid to play a sport, hence the term professional athlete, but they are far from professional in their conduct. Between the NFL, NBA, NHL and MLA we have fine examples of racists, wife beaters, drug dealers, convicted dog fighters, guys caught punching their girlfriends in the face knocking them out, guys associated with organized crime/games etc etc and the list goes on. To suggest they act more respectful than beer leaguers is a joke--they are the poster child for what goes wrong when someone gets too much money and fame for playing a stupid game.
I don't condone what Getzlaf said--I still don't know what he said, but the fact that he was fined and then came out later to apologize for being out of line was great. He said a few bad words, big deal--get over it. He didn't rape, assault, kill, deal drugs or partake in any federal offenses, which are crimes fellow 'professional athletes' do so often we ve become callous to it
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EDIT - none of these are my own - I'm just a messenger for this board, pulling them off the web. There are some incredibly talented and imaginative people out there!
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Last night's game provides a clear example of how important good goaltending is in the playoffs.
Bernier was awful, Rinne was a beast.
Quote from: Old Rusty on May 23, 2017, 12:38:49 PM
Last night's game provides a clear example of how important good goaltending is in the playoffs.
Bernier was awful, Rinne was a beast.
And I've seen fans on social media suggest the Jets should pursue Bernier in the off-season. He's a lousy goaltender.
Rinne has been marvelous this post-season.
....Sign Rinne!!!
Further reinforces the 3 most key positions on any hockey team are--goalie, goalie and goalie!! If we had that type of goaltending it would be a different story here as well
Yeah, Nashville's mobile, gritty, and healthy blue line sure has nothing to do with the Predators' success... ::)
And the Senators force game 7. Did not see that coming.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 24, 2017, 02:13:52 AM
Yeah, Nashville's mobile, gritty, and healthy blue line sure has nothing to do with the Predators' success... ::)
That mobile, gritty and healthy blue line was grotesquely outshot last night, sorry, but the reason they won was the difference in goaltending, hands down
Quote from: dd on May 24, 2017, 03:36:20 AM
That mobile, gritty and healthy blue line was grotesquely outshot last night, sorry, for the reason they won was the difference in goaltending, hands down
One game does not a series make in the NHL playoffs. Try again. #cherrypicking
Losing 7-0 and then winning a one goal game, cherrypicking for sure...
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Personally I like the second last one. It looks like its carrying some chili.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 24, 2017, 03:30:43 PM
One game does not a series make in the NHL playoffs. Try again. #cherrypicking
What planet have you been on this season??? Rinne has been a driving force behind nashvilles success this season. Swap Bernier for Rinne, Nashville gets bounced last round
Quote from: dd on May 25, 2017, 01:33:02 AM
What planet have you been on this season??? Rinne has been a driving force behind nashvilles success this season. Swap Bernier for Rinne, Nashville gets bounced last round
Playing behind a good D could make any goalie look better. The whole team D is what counts... if there is breakdowns you gett killed by 7 no matter what goalie. Jus look at Sens.
There were breakdowns in their D, their team got badly outshot, yet won the game because of the netminder. Why can you guys just not five rinse his just due, the dude played outstanding, not good, not great, outstanding and that wins key games despite being outshot by a landslide
Quote from: dd on May 25, 2017, 01:33:02 AM
What planet have you been on this season??? Rinne has been a driving force behind nashvilles success this season. Swap Bernier for Rinne, Nashville gets bounced last round
I live on a planet where people understand hockey is a team game. Oh, and the same planet where people understand what driving force actually means.
Rinne posted a .918 SV% and 2.42 GAA in the regular season, so I'm not sure how that made him a "driving force" during that time. Typically, a player who is a driving force during the regular season gets a nomination for an individual award, such as the Vezina. All three final nominees for the Vezina posted better numbers than Rinne.
Nobody is saying strong goaltending isn't important, particularly in the playoffs. But you make comments like this:
Quote from: dd on May 24, 2017, 01:49:23 AM
Further reinforces the 3 most key positions on any hockey team are--goalie, goalie and goalie!! If we had that type of goaltending it would be a different story here as well
And all you've done is reinforce your ignorance and trivialize the realities of the sport of hockey. You then cherry pick the results of one game to further make your point... If you've even made a point at all. If all it took was a goalie to win, the Canadiens would still be in the playoffs. Same with Capitals and the Blue Jackets. Or even the Wild.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 25, 2017, 04:28:14 AM
I live on a planet where people understand hockey is a team game. Oh, and the same planet where people understand what driving force actually means.
Rinne posted a .918 SV% and 2.42 GAA in the regular season, so I'm not sure how that made him a "driving force" during that time. Typically, a player who is a driving force during the regular season gets a nomination for an individual award, such as the Vezina. All three final nominees for the Vezina posted better numbers than Rinne.
Nobody is saying strong goaltending isn't important, particularly in the playoffs. But you make comments like this:
And all you've done is reinforce your ignorance and trivialize the realities of the sport of hockey. You then cherry pick the results of one game to further make your point... If you've even made a point at all. If all it took was a goalie to win, the Canadiens would still be in the playoffs. Same with Capitals and the Blue Jackets. Or even the Wild.
look
Who's whining now
Lets go Ottawa! :o
Geez that sort of feels weird. :D
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 25, 2017, 08:25:07 PM
look
Who's whining now
Not sure what in that post you quoted constitutes as whining. ???
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, though.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 25, 2017, 08:41:28 PM
Not sure what in that post you quoted constitutes as whining. ???
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, though.
i won't stoop to your level thank you very much!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 26, 2017, 01:39:50 AM
i won't stoop to your level thank you very much!
More incoherent babble. :D
Anyway, Penguins take game 7 it 2OT... Should be an interesting SCF.
Go Preds!
Do i need to write LETS GO OILERS for you too to get along again ;)
Jk. But we get to be on same side now, Bombers time!!! I like being the villian tho :P
Pitt in 7
What a weird game 1.
Feel so bad for the Preds, horrible penalties and misses penalties, bad bounces... great fight, dare I say a "morale victory"? To hold the pens to a record low shots, 37 minutes without a SOG in their own building is amazing...
Quote from: theaardvark on May 30, 2017, 01:12:59 PM
Feel so bad for the Preds, horrible penalties and misses penalties, bad bounces... great fight, dare I say a "morale victory"? To hold the pens to a record low shots, 37 minutes without a SOG in their own building is amazing...
I can't imagine a moral victory means much in the SCF, but I get what you're saying. A few minutes of disarray after that 5-on-3 did the Preds in last night. They absolutely dominated outside of that, which no doubt works in their favour going forward. Should be a good game tomorrow night.
The disallowed goal in game one was deflating. Hoping for some positive Preds action for game 2. Sorry but I am so sick of the freaking Penguins.
And now, for something completely different:
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In a first, I'm streaming tonight's Predators-Penguins game on my cellphone while posting on my desktop. I'm disappointed that the second half of my dream Stanley Cup Finals match-up didn't come to pass, that being the Carolina Hurricanes didn't make it to the playoffs to (hopefully) face the Predators in the Finals.
Quote from: Old Rusty on May 31, 2017, 08:37:20 PM
The disallowed goal in game one was deflating. Hoping for some positive Preds action for game 2. Sorry but I am so sick of the freaking Penguins.
And now, for something completely different:
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so Ronnie is screwed up Tiger? That makes zero sense and cheese attempt at being funny.
http://www.tsn.ca/report-leafs-express-interest-in-kovalchuk-1.770303 (http://www.tsn.ca/report-leafs-express-interest-in-kovalchuk-1.770303)
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...Toronto Maple Leafs, New York Rangers, St. Louis Blues and San Jose Sharks are among the teams who are interested in Kovalchuk.
Soooooooo shocked that the Preds were able to win the back to back games .......... this Cup final may show how the last seed can grow & win.
Quote from: Jockitch on June 06, 2017, 03:40:54 AM
Soooooooo shocked that the Preds were able to win the back to back games .......... this Cup final may show how the last seed can grow & win.
Without Johansen...
I think they used the 7th man very effectively. If they can ride this high into Pittsburgh and steal a game, all bets are off..
Quote from: theaardvark on June 06, 2017, 02:10:50 PM
Without Johansen...
I think they used the 7th man very effectively. If they can ride this high into Pittsburgh and steal a game, all bets are off..
If the Predators win game 5, I think it ends in 6 in Nashville. Hell, if not for Rinne's shaky netminding in game 1, this series could have been over tomorrow.
Some interesting news out of Seattle today: http://www.king5.com/news/local/arena/oak-view-group-selected-seattle-keyarena-renovation/446404255?C=N (http://www.king5.com/news/local/arena/oak-view-group-selected-seattle-keyarena-renovation/446404255?C=N)
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Seattle Mayor Ed Murray will announce Wednesday that he has selected the Oak View Group to redevelop KeyArena.
The group, led by Tim Leiweke and Irving Azoff, will spearhead a $564 million gut remodel of the facility on the Seattle Center campus. They are also bringing some blockbuster power with them ? two prospective NHL owners.
A source close to the project says Leiweke will announce that his Seattle effort will be joined by Boston Celtics Minority Owner David Bonderman, a billionaire and University of Washington grad, and Jerry Bruckheimer, the Hollywood action movie mogul...
Nashville got POUNDED.
Finally got to watch a game this series (I know, I know) and I watched that garbage? Man..
Hoping for a rebound in Nash and to go to 7 for us fans.
Greasy game winner...yawn pens win again...
Quote from: The Zipp on June 12, 2017, 02:57:18 AM
Greasy game winner...yawn pens win again...
X2 playoffs are just way to long!!!
Crosby wins again! They had no D. Coaching must have been top notch. Take note Jets!!!
http://www.tsn.ca/fleury-waives-nmc-will-be-exposed-to-vegas-barring-trade-1.776982 (http://www.tsn.ca/fleury-waives-nmc-will-be-exposed-to-vegas-barring-trade-1.776982)
Waived it in February, apparently. Gonna be really interesting to see where he ends up.
MAF is going to get traded or drafted/traded... I really hope that Chevy is in on this one.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 12, 2017, 08:44:51 PM
MAF is going to get traded or drafted/traded... I really hope that Chevy is in on this one.
who?
So, who does LV go with as a goalkeeper?
I am hoping that the Jets land MAF and we can finally move to the next level of competing.
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Complete Hockey News @CompleteHkyNews 2h
According to Ray Ferraro, the Vegas Golden Knights plan to keep Marc-Andr? Fleury next season rather than flip him.
Not sure if this has been confirmed but Ferraro seems to know his stuff.
Drouin traded to the Habs for Sergachev. I think Tampa Bay wins this one.
Quote from: gbill2004 on June 15, 2017, 09:43:45 PM
Drouin traded to the Habs for Sergachev. I think Tampa Bay wins this one.
And then the Habs re-signed Drouin to a pretty massive multi-year deal: http://www.tsn.ca/canadiens-acquire-drouin-from-lightning-for-sergachev-1.780437 (http://www.tsn.ca/canadiens-acquire-drouin-from-lightning-for-sergachev-1.780437)
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...signed Drouin to a six-year, $33-million contract extension.
Not sure if I agree with moving a defensive prospect, but the Habs really needed an offensive upgrade. The Bolts basically just added more power to their back end, which was already solid as hell to begin with.
Tons of pressure on Drouin now, though. Gonna be interesting to watch who benefits most down the road from this trade.
6 years $5.5 per to play at home... nice. That's like $100 mil $CAN... ;)
Same deal as Ladd... pretty good value if Drouin can handle the pressure of playing in Mtl
Quote from: theaardvark on June 15, 2017, 10:18:44 PM
6 years $5.5 per to play at home... nice. That's like $100 mil $CAN... ;)
Same deal as Ladd... pretty good value if Drouin can handle the pressure of playing in Mtl
Same AAV, but a year less. Ladd's deal with the Islanders last year was 7 years for $38.5M.
In any case, that's a nice payday for a 22-year old.
Great addition to the Bolts with Sergachev ....... the kid performed real well in the games I watched during his teams road to the Memorial win.
Would love to have seen this young, potential, future star in a Jets uni.
Agree about the pressure on Drouin now ....... on paper that is a real good addition to the Habs top 6.
Mike Smith to the Flames: http://www.tsn.ca/flames-agree-to-terms-with-coyotes-to-acquire-g-smith-1.781917 (http://www.tsn.ca/flames-agree-to-terms-with-coyotes-to-acquire-g-smith-1.781917)
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The Calgary Flames have agreed to acquire veteran goalie Mike Smith from the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for prospect Brandon Hickey, goalie Chad Johnson and a conditional third-round pick...
What's the depth for Arizona in goal ?
Quote from: Jockitch on June 17, 2017, 06:57:08 PM
What's the depth for Arizona in goal ?
the Willey 🐕
LV will have to take 30 players in the expansion draft. They have already drafted players, and have signed FA's, and will be drafting this season as well.
My question is, what is the team maximum for contracts on the books? Dropping 30 contracts onto the team, I don;t think there is any problem avoiding the cap, might be an issue with the floor, but keeping the flexibility of contracts, how close are they are to the max there, are there going to be limits on the "take this guy and we'll give you this guy as well" deals?
Quote from: theaardvark on June 19, 2017, 05:49:48 PM
LV will have to take 30 players in the expansion draft. They have already drafted players, and have signed FA's, and will be drafting this season as well.
My question is, what is the team maximum for contracts on the books? Dropping 30 contracts onto the team, I don;t think there is any problem avoiding the cap, might be an issue with the floor, but keeping the flexibility of contracts, how close are they are to the max there, are there going to be limits on the "take this guy and we'll give you this guy as well" deals?
they haven't drafted a soul yet.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 19, 2017, 07:42:43 PM
they haven't drafted a soul yet.
My bad, confused with the Ottawa expansion when the RB's could draft a year early... but they have signed some, right?
Quote from: theaardvark on June 19, 2017, 08:47:45 PM
My bad, confused with the Ottawa expansion when the RB's could draft a year early... but they have signed some, right?
They've signed like one player.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 19, 2017, 08:47:45 PM
My bad, confused with the Ottawa expansion when the RB's could draft a year early... but they have signed some, right?
you get the Jets and bombers confused sometimes right?
Quote from: gbill2004 on June 20, 2017, 11:14:50 AM
They've signed like one player.
Correct. Reid Duke was the first player to be signed by Vegas, back on Mar. 6th.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 20, 2017, 04:56:41 PM
Correct. Reid Duke was the first player to be signed by Vegas, back on Mar. 6th.
Didn't they sign a Russian?
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/golden-knights-sign-vadim-shipachyov-1.4100661
Quote from: gbill2004 on June 20, 2017, 11:14:50 AM
They've signed like one player.
Better Czech your facts...
http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2017/06/02/czech-f-tomas-hyka-is-3rd-player-signed-by-golden-knights/
Hardly newsworthy signings but okay, two more players... ::)
Good on ya for digging through the interwebs, Aardsy.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 20, 2017, 05:30:44 PM
Hardly newsworthy signings but okay, two more players... ::)
Good on ya for digging through the interwebs, Aardsy.
I never enjoy defending Aardvark but Shipachyov is very much a newsworthy signing. He's a first/second line caliber center.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCzXVeYUwAAsWZL.jpg)
McDavid OWNED NHL Awards :)
I have to say Burns deserved that NHL top D award! He is one hell of a talent
Just curious, did any other UFA's get picked?
Quite the induction class for 2017: http://www.tsn.ca/selanne-kariya-head-hockey-hall-of-fame-s-class-of-2017-1.789412 (http://www.tsn.ca/selanne-kariya-head-hockey-hall-of-fame-s-class-of-2017-1.789412)
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Teemu Selanne and Paul Kariya are together again, at long last.
There was no doubt the Finnish Flash would be among the Hockey Hall of Fame's Class of 2017, the only question was who would join him. Turns out, the five-year wait for Selanne's long-time teammate and close friend is over.
Kariya was announced as one of the Hockey Hall of Fame's newest inductees on Monday afternoon, joining Selanne, Dave Andreychuk, Mark Recchi, as well as Team Canada women's star Danielle Goyette, and builders Clare Drake and Jeremy Jacobs.
Great news for Selanne & others
McDavid 8 years 13.5 mil per? Yikes... and some are questioning why he'd take 8 years (he'll be 29? when its done). 8 years guaranteed? In a heartbeat. And after 8 years, he can get his big contract ;)
And that is still under the maximum contract of $15mil/year under the current CBA/cap. (max contract 20% of current cap). 20%? Wow.. having 20% of your cap in one player... he'd better be worth it.
Scheifele's deal is looking better and better...
Quote from: theaardvark on June 28, 2017, 05:21:07 PM
McDavid 8 years 13.5 mil per? Yikes... and some are questioning why he'd take 8 years (he'll be 29? when its done). 8 years guaranteed? In a heartbeat. And after 8 years, he can get his big contract ;)
And that is still under the maximum contract of $15mil/year under the current CBA/cap. (max contract 20% of current cap). 20%? Wow.. having 20% of your cap in one player... he'd better be worth it.
It was no different with the Penguins when Crosby signed his first standard contract. Similar percentage of the cap back then for a generational talent.
Of course McDavid will be worth it. He cleaned up the NHL Awards after just coming off an incredible sophomore season, and would've probably won the Calder the year before had be not been injured. He's pretty much the face of the league going forward and an immensely talented piece around which the Oilers can build a contender. I'm interested to see what Draisatl ends up getting now.
It would've been funny to see McDavid take a $9.7M/year contract, but an additional ~$4M is hard to turn down. :D
No disputing that McDavid is all the wonderful things said by all our posters ........... but at 18% of the Cap of $75M ....... good luck to the Oilers for depth players.
Chevy will absolutely cringe, as we all will, when Laine, if at his expected progress, is due a raise.
Quote from: Jockitch on June 29, 2017, 12:54:54 AM
No disputing that McDavid is all the wonderful things said by all our posters ........... but at 18% of the Cap of $75M ....... good luck to the Oilers for depth players.
Chevy will absolutely cringe, as we all will, when Laine, if at his expected progress, is due a raise.
Its doable as the cap will keep rising and with some good GMing will be able to build a team around him.
From a TSN article:
Alex Ovechkin?s Washington extension was 19 per cent of the cap when he signed it. Crosby?s second contract was 17.3 per cent while Evgeni Malkin?s was 15.3. McDavid is at 17.6, but that?s assuming zero growth. Going into next year, it will be 12.7 per cent for Ovechkin and 11.6 for Crosby.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 28, 2017, 05:21:07 PM
McDavid 8 years 13.5 mil per? Yikes... and some are questioning why he'd take 8 years (he'll be 29? when its done). 8 years guaranteed? In a heartbeat. And after 8 years, he can get his big contract ;)
And that is still under the maximum contract of $15mil/year under the current CBA/cap. (max contract 20% of current cap). 20%? Wow.. having 20% of your cap in one player... he'd better be worth it.
Scheifele's deal is looking better and better...
wow you're are clueless in world of hockey :D
Oilers will have 3 million more with Pou on waivers for buyout (Just happened today). A long with Oilers made up for Eberle 6 million to Strome 2.5. Oilers also got extra 2 mill from cap. As well Nuge wont be staying here with 6 million dollars so that will go down by end of this year as he wont be a Oilers to much longer, unless he works out that contract. Oilers have room and Drai and McDavid 2 contracts will be likely around same as Pitts, Chi one two punches. theyre around 21 mill. When you have two great players you gotta pay up. Both where top 10 In nhl scoring.
PC has literally ripped old boys club apart and brought in all his own roster, signings and trades! What a roster its been!
Quote from: Jersey on June 29, 2017, 05:24:20 PM
wow you're are clueless in world of hockey :D
Oilers will have 3 million more with Pou on waivers for buyout (Just happened today). A long with Oilers made up for Eberle 6 million to Strome 2.5. Oilers also got extra 2 mill from cap. As well Nuge wont be staying here with 6 million dollars so that will go down by end of this year as he wont be a Oilers to much longer, unless he works out that contract. Oilers have room and Drai and McDavid 2 contracts will be likely around same as Pitts, Chi one two punches. theyre around 21 mill. When you have two great players you gotta pay up. Both where top 10 In nhl scoring.
PC has literally ripped old boys club apart and brought in all his own roster, signings and trades! What a roster its been!
Yes, you needed to do what you had to to keep CM in an Oiler jersey. But you can't pretend that this isn't going to hurt the rest of the roster.
Quote from: Jesse on July 03, 2017, 06:42:41 PM
Yes, you needed to do what you had to to keep CM in an Oiler jersey. But you can't pretend that this isn't going to hurt the rest of the roster.
The GM is just going to have to work harder and smarter to stretch their money and obtain players to build around McDavid. Obviously some fat will have to be cut sooner than later (RNH, Lucic).
We really lucked out that Mark did not blossom early and we were able to get a ridiculously good value at 6.1 AAV. Imagine if we had to resign him after he just hit 80+ points lol. His comparable would be kuznetsov who just landed a 7.8 AAV for 8 years after coming off a 59 pt campaign :o If I was mark I would be choked seeing a lesser player make 10+ million on paper (obviously not after taxes) more than you a year later.
Wow
Connor McDavid signs eight-year, $100 million extension with Oilers
Contract for 20-year-old center will have average annual value of $12.5 million, highest salary cap charge in League
Quote from: The Zipp on July 05, 2017, 07:17:18 PM
Wow
Connor McDavid signs eight-year, $100 million extension with Oilers
Contract for 20-year-old center will have average annual value of $12.5 million, highest salary cap charge in League
man what the heck is Liane gonna want? Yikes.
Quote from: The Zipp on July 05, 2017, 07:17:18 PM
Wow
Connor McDavid signs eight-year, $100 million extension with Oilers
Contract for 20-year-old center will have average annual value of $12.5 million, highest salary cap charge in League
Rumors were $13.25 million so that's $1.5 lower than the max he could have gotten under the CBA.
Quote from: gbill2004 on July 05, 2017, 07:38:31 PM
Rumors were $13.25 million so that's $1.5 lower than the max he could have gotten under the CBA.
Definitely took a discount.
Quote from: Colton on July 05, 2017, 08:39:50 PM
Definitely took a discount.
Nominate him for sainthood....
Quote from: The Zipp on July 05, 2017, 09:29:28 PM
Nominate him for sainthood....
I'm sure Oilers fans want to right about now
We have the tools to beat McJesus in the future!!
You have to wonder, looking at the long view, paying him 12.5 mil when he is still an RFA and only eligible for a fraction of that that you control, you are overpaying him for a handful of years. I'm sure he signs an 8 year deal in 4 years, where they could have paid him $40 mil less until then... I can't see the cap rising enough to give back that value on the back end of the deal...
I'd rather have Scheifele at $6 million per season vs McDavid at $12 million.
I think the Oil will get every dime of that back in play from CM. He's the real deal, and I hate to say it.
Lucky.
Quote from: blue_or_die on July 06, 2017, 12:37:27 PM
I think the Oil will get every dime of that back in play from CM. He's the real deal, and I hate to say it.
Lucky.
exacltlg if McJesus were a Jet and locked up I'd be celebrating with stiff drink!
Quote from: gbill2004 on July 05, 2017, 11:52:10 PM
I'd rather have Scheifele at $6 million per season vs McDavid at $12 million.
that is a whole different situation though. We were very fortunate that he has been a slow progressing player that has landed at elite status last season.
Mark signed with us after a 60 pt season at the age of 23. Mcdavid just came of a 100 pt season at 20 and won the hart, ross and Lindsay. If his negotiations were this year we would of been screwed. His best comparable in skill and age would be Kuznetsov (winger) who peaked at 77 pts last year and hit 59 pts this season. he scored 7.8 mill per year for 8 seasons.
I couldn't imagine how much we would have to pay mark if his negotiations were this season...8-9 per if we wanted him long term for sure.
that being said. I would take McJesus over Mark all day. taking the homer goggles off he is just a phenomenal player.
The negotiation of Ehlers contract next season is going to be very interesting if he exceeds his previous season of 64 pts and 7th in the NHL in 5v5 production.
wonder what we do with Trouba this year as well? I hope he agrees to resign.
Quote from: Ziggy66 on July 08, 2017, 03:33:36 PM
that is a whole different situation though. We were very fortunate that he has been a slow progressing player that has landed at elite status last season.
Mark signed with us after a 60 pt season at the age of 23. Mcdavid just came of a 100 pt season at 20 and won the hart, ross and Lindsay. If his negotiations were this year we would of been screwed. His best comparable in skill and age would be Kuznetsov (winger) who peaked at 77 pts last year and hit 59 pts this season. he scored 7.8 mill per year for 8 seasons.
I couldn't imagine how much we would have to pay mark if his negotiations were this season...8-9 per if we wanted him long term for sure.
that being said. I would take McJesus over Mark all day. taking the homer goggles off he is just a phenomenal player.
The negotiation of Ehlers contract next season is going to be very interesting if he exceeds his previous season of 64 pts and 7th in the NHL in 5v5 production.
wonder what we do with Trouba this year as well? I hope he agrees to resign.
We were lucky with Mark. That said, the Oilers better hope they have some success this season while CM is still on his rookie deal or they're going to have a whole lot of seasons where McDavid drags the team into the play offs, but they can't go all the way because they have **** for depth behind him.
Quote from: Jesse on July 08, 2017, 03:43:00 PM
We were lucky with Mark. That said, the Oilers better hope they have some success this season while CM is still on his rookie deal or they're going to have a whole lot of seasons where McDavid drags the team into the play offs, but they can't go all the way because they have **** for depth behind him.
His cap hit % is in the realm of the ovi/Crosby signings when they were young so I don't think they will screwed for depth but a lot of that will be on the shoulders of their GM in the aspect of good drafting, trading and UFA signings. Watching the Penguins this season and last have shown the hockey world that you can win with very little depth, two top Centers and good goaltending (better defence in their last cup win though). So I think anything can be possible. If he is able to drag them to the playoffs 8 of 8 seasons then that is still a win as they have a 1/16 shot of possibly winning a cup.
we are very fortunate in how Mark turned out and our fantastic rate! best contract negotiation ever, based on how his ppg was trending at the end of that season when he got to play first line minutes I thought he might garner a bit more.
Quote from: Ziggy66 on July 08, 2017, 03:52:39 PM
His cap hit % is in the realm of the ovi/Crosby signings when they were young so I don't think they will screwed for depth but a lot of that will be on the shoulders of their GM in the aspect of good drafting, trading and UFA signings. Watching the Penguins this season and last have shown the hockey world that you can win with very little depth, two top Centers and good goaltending (better defence in their last cup win though). So I think anything can be possible. If he is able to drag them to the playoffs 8 of 8 seasons then that is still a win as they have a 1/16 shot of possibly winning a cup.
we are very fortunate in how Mark turned out and our fantastic rate! best contract negotiation ever, based on how his ppg was trending at the end of that season when he got to play first line minutes I thought he might garner a bit more.
You ever notice the dip in the Pittsburgh Penguin play off success between 2009-2014 exactly coincides with Crosby's 2nd contract?
Quote from: Jesse on July 08, 2017, 04:13:27 PM
You ever notice the dip in the Pittsburgh Penguin play off success between 2009-2014 exactly coincides with Crosby's 2nd contract?
it also coincides with their coaching according to some pitts fans that I know. Mike Sullivan has been a very good change for them and no doubt at all that the cap rising has helped them as well.
I am a believer that if you make the playoffs at all you are doing something right and you have a 1/16 shot at winning the cup. They did stumble with one Conference final, three first round exits and two 2nd round exits but even with a large % of the cap space they were still were actively competing in the playoffs and being a very competitive team.
Will be interesting to see if McDavid can bring the same success to the Oilers.
Quote from: Jesse on July 08, 2017, 04:13:27 PM
You ever notice the dip in the Pittsburgh Penguin play off success between 2009-2014 exactly coincides with Crosby's 2nd contract?
Uh, the Penguins were still one of the top teams in the league during those years. Under Byslma, their style of play didn't work well in the post-season (save the '09 run). And then with Johnston, his style just stifled their offensive ability. Sullivan found a way to strike a balance and it's resulted in back to back championships.
What does that have to do with Crosby signing a contract? It isn't like their roster wasn't balanced because of it.
Jesse, Jesse. Where do i begin, **** am I talking to myself? lol
First off, WHL defense-men of the year in the waiting. We just got new Johnny Hockey type where he absolutely ripped the league last year Kail Yamamoto. Jesse Puljuj?rvi as well. Our rookies last year, Benning, Cagguila, Khaira, Slepyshev all just got big exposure to NHL. Players Drai, McD, Klef, Larson, Nurse, Strome, are all 23 and under. Nuge 24 Years old. That's 11 starters all very young. Oilers dont just have two young studs with all these old vets, lol. We have a stud in goal tending as well, which helps our future. We brought in Jussi Jokinen who just scored 60 points with Florida 2 years ago etc... I truly dont understand your philosophy in Oilers and McDavid contract. Salary cap will probably be getting a good bumped in few years with new american nhl tv deal. Oilers had over 19 million this year. Ok so Drai and McDavid will eat that but I dont see Nuge 6 million staying here to much longer. As well, cap will go up soon anywho as it went up 2m anyways this year.
Crosby just won 3 Stanley Cups and you choose to pick those years when they dont win? huh?? I'm sorry but that's absolute terrible analysts. Pittsburgh always been a good team, Crosby always been elite and he always was pure success. They made playoffs consistently, he had concussion issues. This guy contract has zero to do with them losing. You cant win every year but he sure has won 3 times since 2009. Where is the issue with them? Gosh your trying to reflect that to the Oilers? wow thx you. I'd love 3 cups in 9 years! Its ok to HATE Oilers, say you want them to not succeed or whatever...or maybe brag about Jets, sure. I get it. But come on this is not even accurate what you're saying.
Every single GM would have locked up McDavid just as Oilers did OR Crosby. McDavid you would not be signing him up for less then 12.5M. McDavid at 20 has already have an amazing start to his career. You have to remember each city is different then an other for player taxes as well. Edmonton is 7th lowest in NHL, McDavid only clears just over 6 million a year from 12.5M. Winnipeg is one of highest he woulda been taxed 50.21% This one of the bigger issues why Players go to certain markets. Toronto is 53% they would have taken, its CRAZY. But he wants to take some money home too.
Quote from: Colton on July 05, 2017, 09:37:36 PM
I'm sure Oilers fans want to right about now
:D ;)
BTW Coltan what did you think about Marleau leaving, that kinda sucked. Been a shark forever, gonna be weird seeing him in leafs. Whats your feelings? He is getting older but did score 27...
Quote from: Jersey on July 10, 2017, 02:18:06 PM
:D ;)
BTW Coltan what did you think about Marleau leaving, that kinda sucked. Been a shark forever, gonna be weird seeing him in leafs. Whats your feelings? He is getting older but did score 27...
I can't blame him. The offer he received was miles better than what he was being offered here. I also think he rightfully may have loved playing for the San Jose Sharks, but hated playing for the San Jose Sharks management.
I wish he had done it a day earlier so we had a little more flexibility on how to replace his production.
To your second point, I thought this past season was his best in a few years. The overall points total was down but that kind of rang true for the whole team (And our PP blew, which doesn't help those numbers) He looked much more dangerous on his own this past season and looked a lot quicker than the previous two. Three years of this past year Marleau is a good deal for Toronto. Three years of previous year Marleau would be a bit of a disaster. I don't know which they'll get.
The LA Kings name their new offensive coordinator: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/article/kings-name-turgeon-offensive-coordinator-1.801111 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/article/kings-name-turgeon-offensive-coordinator-1.801111)
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The Los Angeles Kings announced they have added former NHLer Pierre Turgeon to their coaching staff specifically in the role of "Offensive Coordinator".
For the first time in LA Kings history, there will be one coach dedicated to an "Offensive Coordinator" role.https://t.co/6CUVkWAI4w
? #LAKings (@LAKings) July 10, 2017
"We are thrilled to bring Pierre Turgeon aboard to join John Stevens and our coaching staff. For the first time in LA Kings history we will have one coach strictly dedicated to an 'Offensive Coordinator' role," Kings President Luc Robitaille said in a statement released by the Kings.
Quote from: Jesse on July 08, 2017, 04:13:27 PM
You ever notice the dip in the Pittsburgh Penguin play off success between 2009-2014 exactly coincides with Crosby's 2nd contract?
It coincides with Crosby's concussion problems and a couple years of coming unglued against the Flyers in the playoffs.
Quote from: Colton on July 10, 2017, 03:45:14 PM
I can't blame him. The offer he received was miles better than what he was being offered here. I also think he rightfully may have loved playing for the San Jose Sharks, but hated playing for the San Jose Sharks management.
I wish he had done it a day earlier so we had a little more flexibility on how to replace his production.
To your second point, I thought this past season was his best in a few years. The overall points total was down but that kind of rang true for the whole team (And our PP blew, which doesn't help those numbers) He looked much more dangerous on his own this past season and looked a lot quicker than the previous two. Three years of this past year Marleau is a good deal for Toronto. Three years of previous year Marleau would be a bit of a disaster. I don't know which they'll get.
Totally. To score 27 in this league is no slouch. I still respected him as a player, dangerous even at 37 years old. But leafs over paid. They clearly threw money and hoped he'd go there. Did they say what sharks offered?
Always tough to see a guy who's played his *** off for you to leave. But it's part of sports sharks will move on and have to find someone to fill that position in future. He's been there since I been a kid, foreveeeeer.
Quote from: sweep the leg on July 11, 2017, 03:05:30 AM
It coincides with Crosby's concussion problems and a couple years of coming unglued against the Flyers in the playoffs.
That only happened once, in the 2012 post-season.
Quote from: Jersey on July 11, 2017, 11:55:17 AM
Totally. To score 27 in this league is no slouch. I still respected him as a player, dangerous even at 37 years old. But leafs over paid. They clearly threw money and hoped he'd go there. Did they say what sharks offered?
Always tough to see a guy who's played his *** off for you to leave. But it's part of sports sharks will move on and have to find someone to fill that position in future. He's been there since I been a kid, foreveeeeer.
I can't remember the source so I don't remember if it was speculation or actual insider information, but I believe the offer to Marleau was 2 years - 5 or 5.5M per year.
I have no memory of watching a single Sharks game without Marleau in the lineup. I don't even mean just him being with the organization, I know I would have watched a couple of the games they played when he was injured for a game or two way back when, but I don't remember them well/at all.
The Sharks have played 1524 regular season games since Marleau was drafted, and he played in 1493 of them. If we include playoffs into that number, he's played 1670 of 1710.
Haha. Exactly. See I think sharks gave a way more logical offer. 2 years anything over 5M is good!
Leafs overspent but I guess they got the room, so why not. Hey if he can land them 25 maybe help out some of young guns, it's worth it.
I think a good move by the Leafs. They get another goal scorer.
Deal to sell Carolina Hurricanes close, per reports: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-13/greenberg-is-said-to-near-500-million-deal-for-nhl-s-hurricanes (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-13/greenberg-is-said-to-near-500-million-deal-for-nhl-s-hurricanes)
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Chuck Greenberg, once part-owner and CEO of the Texas Rangers, is close to completing an agreement to buy the National Hockey League's Carolina Hurricanes for about $500 million, according to people familiar with the deal.
The team will stay in North Carolina. Greenberg will seek to add local investors to the ownership group and plans to split his time between Raleigh and Dallas, said the people, who asked for anonymity because the negotiations are private.
http://www.tsn.ca/report-hurricanes-attendance-down-32-per-cent-over-10-years-1.808287 (http://www.tsn.ca/report-hurricanes-attendance-down-32-per-cent-over-10-years-1.808287)
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Report: Hurricanes attendance down 32 per cent over 10 years
According to the financial news website 24/7 Wall St., the Carolina Hurricanes have suffered the second largest attendance drop in major league sports over the past 10 years.
The outlet reviewed the 10-year average home attendance of franchises in the MLB, NBA, NFL and NHL to see which teams were losing the most fans.
The Hurricanes, who have reached the playoffs just once since winning the Stanley Cup in 2006, have seen their attendance dip 32.3 per cent from their roughly 17,000 average attendance 10 years ago to their average of 11,776 this year. The team's average fill capacity sat at 63 per cent this season - the worst among NHL teams.
The Colorado Avalanche, who finished the 2016-17 last in the NHL, were the only other NHL team make the top 10, seeing a 15.8 per cent drop in average attendance from 2006. The Pepsi Centre was, on average, 82.4 per cent filled for Avalanche games last season.
The Ottawa Senators were the only Canadian team to make the list, seeing an attendance drop of 13.6 per cent since the season following their lone Stanley Cup Final appearance. The Senators averaged 87.4 per cent of capacity at the Canadian Tire Centre last season.
Oilers went way up in attendance due to new arena and are the 4th most profitable gate revenue in NHL in 2017. TSN's Dregger says Oilers will profit 4th most financially in NHL once the biggest sports district in north america 'ice district' is open in 2 years! Few things are open but phase 2 is being put together right now. "It's a city in a city" Oilers will finish top 3 or 4 in gate revenue every year as long as they keep selling out which looks to be for a while as there season ticket holders jumped to 16,000 (from 15,000 from old rexall) There ticket average went up too (comes with a new arena) 1,200 mini packs holders and Mini packs are so popular they have priority draws, your name has to be picked just to get a chance at mini packs. My police buddy from Winnipeg is a Oilers fan he got picked last year and sold 2 games and kept his other 2 games to attend in Edmonton. He's been picked twice in 4 years, good luck!! Its good to be in Oilers Country these days! sure exciting.
Quote from: Jersey on July 20, 2017, 10:18:36 PM
Oilers went way up in attendance due to new arena and are the 4th most profitable gate revenue in NHL in 2017. TSN's Dregger says Oilers will profit 4th most financially in NHL once the biggest sports district in north america 'ice district' is open in 2 years! Few things are open but phase 2 is being put together right now. "It's a city in a city" Oilers will finish top 3 or 4 in gate revenue every year as long as they keep selling out which looks to be for a while as there season ticket holders jumped to 16,000 (from 15,000 from old rexall) There ticket average went up too (comes with a new arena) 1,200 mini packs holders and Mini packs are so popular they have priority draws, your name has to be picked just to get a chance at mini packs. My police buddy from Winnipeg is a Oilers fan he got picked last year and sold 2 games and kept his other 2 games to attend in Edmonton. He's been picked twice in 4 years, good luck!! Its good to be in Oilers Country these days! sure exciting.
so what!
Jets are gonna be good to.
Still #1 most "no move clause to" city in the league. Yes I know Winnipeg is #2.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 21, 2017, 01:26:36 AM
so what!
Jets are gonna be good to.
Still #1 most "no move clause to" city in the league. Yes I know Winnipeg is #2.
What?
Anyways I wasn't directing it at Winnipeg. Yes Winnipeg will be fine 👍 but theyre not top 10 in gate revenue or total profit organization. It's small market here. I hope nothing but best for Jets tho as my friends would be happy. But I will not give bias, that usually lands me in trouble here lol. I wanna see jets VS Oilers series 👍
But for a team that was so bad for 8 years and still sold out consistently not many cities could do that. Now rewarded with a nhl gem of a new arena and biggest sports district erecting its great for us Oilers fan's becuz that means we can compete VS anybody. We could never say that before. Having Drai McD, Klef and talby helps at important positions.
Quote from: Jersey on July 21, 2017, 10:46:06 AM
What?
Anyways I wasn't directing it at Winnipeg. Yes Winnipeg will be fine 👍 but theyre not top 10 in gate revenue or total profit organization. It's small market here. I hope nothing but best for Jets tho as my friends would be happy. But I will not give bias, that usually lands me in trouble here lol. I wanna see jets VS Oilers series 👍
But for a team that was so bad for 8 years and still sold out consistently not many cities could do that. Now rewarded with a nhl gem of a new arena and biggest sports district erecting its great for us Oilers fan's becuz that means we can compete VS anybody. We could never say that before. Having Drai McD, Klef and talby helps at important positions.
just your long winded ness is tiresome. Save it hfboards Oilers. We know your a big oiler fan and we don't care, get over it.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 21, 2017, 01:29:30 PM
just your long winded ness is tiresome. Save it hfboards Oilers. We know your a big oiler fan and we don't care, get over it.
Get off the soapbox. This is the
NHL Discussion thread, which means all teams can be discussed here.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 21, 2017, 01:29:30 PM
just your long winded ness is tiresome. Save it hfboards Oilers. We know your a big oiler fan and we don't care, get over it.
Get over what? I'm just discussing. Gosh if I don't praise your team I'm bad guy. Sheesh. As I said, it's ok u hate Oilers. But don't have to be so upset with me cuz I love another team. Who cares who I like or what I say. Just pass on so u don't continue the discussion.
Question how do u post pictures on here?
Quote from: Jersey on July 21, 2017, 03:46:18 PM
Get over what? I'm just discussing. Gosh if I don't praise your team I'm bad guy. Sheesh. As I said, it's ok u hate Oilers. But don't have to be so upset with me cuz I love another team. Who cares who I like or what I say. Just pass on so u don't continue the discussion.
Question how do u post pictures on here?
Easiest method is:
[img]http://urlForImage.com[/img]Alternatively you can upload a file as an attachment if you go into the full text editor for a message
Quote from: Jersey on July 21, 2017, 03:46:18 PM
Get over what? I'm just discussing. Gosh if I don't praise your team I'm bad guy. Sheesh. As I said, it's ok u hate Oilers. But don't have to be so upset with me cuz I love another team. Who cares who I like or what I say. Just pass on so u don't continue the discussion.
Question how do u post pictures on here?
in fact I don't hate the oilers at all. I dislike your constant rants about them.
Quote from: Colton on July 21, 2017, 07:13:46 PM
Easiest method is:
[img]http://urlForImage.com[/img]
Alternatively you can upload a file as an attachment if you go into the full text editor for a message
Oh lord Colton I don't get it lmao. It said my file is to large.
Quote from: Jersey on July 22, 2017, 12:57:23 AM
Og lord Colton I don't get it lmao. It said my file is to large.
Lol, easiest method might be to upload it to a site like imgur.com and then paste the link it gives you
You know me. Easiest method always over my head 😂 embarrassing moments lol
29 DR. DRAI Signed. 8 year's at 8.5m
We now are on par with duos of Wsh, chi, Pitt. 20.5m for McJesus and Drai. Oilers are set!! Thx God no bridge.
Nuge 6m contract won't last long... As he can't produce at that price. B
http://www.tsn.ca/kansas-city-on-nhl-expansion-radar-1.831403 (http://www.tsn.ca/kansas-city-on-nhl-expansion-radar-1.831403)
Seems reasonable when you consider the Central Division is the only remaining division without eight teams.
Quote from: Jersey on August 16, 2017, 06:16:39 PM
29 DR. DRAI Signed. 8 year's at 8.5m
We now are on par with duos of Wsh, chi, Pitt. 20.5m for McJesus and Drai. Oilers are set!! Thx God no bridge.
Nuge 6m contract won't last long... As he can't produce at that price. B
whos that?
Quote from: Jersey on August 17, 2017, 06:31:53 PM
some other superstar we got :D ;)
superstar did he even make the all star team?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 17, 2017, 06:37:49 PM
superstar did he even make the all star team?
No but he had a hatty in playoffs 16 pts in 13 games! top 8 in NHL goal scoring! ;)
Quote from: Jersey on August 18, 2017, 04:25:01 PM
No but he had a hatty in playoffs 16 pts in 13 games! top 8 in NHL goal scoring! ;)
Your team has been complete **** for many years. You have only became good because of it.
This is not a team put together by a good GM..... this is a team put together because it was ****.. It had the number 1 picks for years.
We are building with 8th or 9th picks.
Quote from: Jersey on August 18, 2017, 04:25:01 PM
No but he had a hatty in playoffs 16 pts in 13 games! top 8 in NHL goal scoring! ;)
wow ::)
Your not acccurate
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on August 19, 2017, 12:22:33 AM
Your team has been complete **** for many years. You have only became good because of it.
This is not a team put together by a good GM..... this is a team put together because it was ****.. It had the number 1 picks for years.
We are building with 8th or 9th picks.
AH :D? PC has brought in
Maroon in a trade for nothing. He signed Drake Cagguila. Traded for Larson. Signed Lucic. Traded for Talbot for nothing. Signed Benning a young college D. Signed Russel. Slepyshev, Traded for Strome, Signed Sekera, traded for Kassian. Drafted McDavid (Was not supposed to land him, you know kinda like Laine situation ;) ) signed Jokinen etc.. stop me anytime Mud...you need to brush up on your Hockey! He has clear out MADE this team in 2 years and to playoffs in that short.
Oilers been so bad for years , ok and...? How has the Jets been btw? Talk about NOW, you wanna talk past because it's easier but unfortunately you gotta deal with this era of Oilers. Have Fun!
Shane Doan calls it a career: http://www.tsn.ca/doan-retires-after-21-nhl-seasons-1.842839 (http://www.tsn.ca/doan-retires-after-21-nhl-seasons-1.842839)
Doaner had fantastic career! Good for him. Phoenix will def be raising his banner!
side note. i bought my 3 Oilers games tickets. Dec.31 vs Jets. Jan.2 vs LAK and Jan.4 vs Ducks. Super excited!!!!!!! Love doing xmas in Edm for myself and family and to see friends there!! $1,249.00 costed me for 3 games. The tix prices are absolute crazy there. BTW im in upper deck every game. Near blue line and towards behind net! Its only re sale left for games. But even so prices went up this year and its just to expensive in lower bowl if I wanna go to 3 games. $495.00 for lower bowl vs Montreal ( I wanted to go to that game and thats not re sale price) like how can ppl afford that? But whatever the countdown is on!
So, where do the Flames end up? And what does that do to the Stamps?
Quote from: theaardvark on September 13, 2017, 05:25:16 AM
So, where do the Flames end up? And what does that do to the Stamps?
The Flames will remain at the Saddledome. The Stampeders will remain at McMahon Stadium.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 13, 2017, 05:25:16 AM
So, where do the Flames end up? And what does that do to the Stamps?
seattle
Bruins sign RW Pastrnak to 6-year, $40M contract: http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-sign-rfa-pastrnak-to-six-year-40m-deal-1.856342 (http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-sign-rfa-pastrnak-to-six-year-40m-deal-1.856342)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 14, 2017, 02:53:23 PM
Bruins sign RW Pastrnak to 6-year, $40M contract: http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-sign-rfa-pastrnak-to-six-year-40m-deal-1.856342 (http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-sign-rfa-pastrnak-to-six-year-40m-deal-1.856342)
Not a bad deal for the Bruins. Seems reasonable.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 13, 2017, 06:10:24 PM
Seattle Stampeders... I like it...
Calgary is never leaving
Oilers win young stars tourney again. 4 straight years. Swept everyone 2 years in a row.
Caleb Jones and WHL defensemen of the year, Ethan Bear absolute studs for us on D line in coming years.
Hockey is back!!! First game today. Canucks vs la kings
https://www.nhl.com/news/new-jersey-devils-brian-boyle-has-leukemia/c-291181794 (https://www.nhl.com/news/new-jersey-devils-brian-boyle-has-leukemia/c-291181794)
That is horrible news. Just horrible. :-[
Anyone see the guy with custom Manitoba plates that says "MCJESUS" driving around yet? Jersey is that you? :D
I can see someone being offended by that, suprised they issued it to him.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on September 20, 2017, 02:14:48 PM
Anyone see the guy with custom Manitoba plates that says "MCJESUS" driving around yet? Jersey is that you? :D
I can see someone being offended by that, suprised they issued it to him.
Lmao. No, not me. I just have a huge Oilers decel on my side of the door (passenger) and Bombers logo on other drivers side door. And we have bombers licence plates. Then back window has our team's. It's all sportsified.
I know church goes get all mad about it. I say McJesus all time. I pray...pray to him 😂
http://www.tsn.ca/report-hudler-accused-of-outburst-on-plane-1.875321 (http://www.tsn.ca/report-hudler-accused-of-outburst-on-plane-1.875321)
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on September 20, 2017, 02:14:48 PM
Anyone see the guy with custom Manitoba plates that says "MCJESUS" driving around yet? Jersey is that you? :D
I can see someone being offended by that, suprised they issued it to him.
likely approved taken out of context!
So the guy lives by my buddy actually. Small world.
McWow tonight. This guy is simply jaw dropping to watch. 40.9km h and last year was 37kmh. What a blessing to have. Nobody better individually.
Connor McDavid is going to destroy the NHL this season. That breakaway last night was absolutely incredible.
Quote from: Jersey on October 05, 2017, 05:35:46 AM
Nobody better individually.
I suppose if you exclude Crosby that may be true.
Quote from: Colton on October 05, 2017, 02:44:38 PM
I suppose if you exclude Crosby that may be true.
Hey I'm willing to stand by that in year 2 vs Crosby. Connor career just getting started. But Crosby achievements of winning I only can hope McDavid follows. It's not easy. But watch this kid 97 play he is a piece of work.
December can't come fast enough for my trip to Edmonton for 3 games. NYE vs Jets, jan 2 vs la and jan 4 vs ANA. Eeeek
Did not expect the Blackhawks to put up 10 on the defending champs last night. :o
In other news, TSN's Dreger thinks the Senators move Turris at some point this season: http://www.tsn.ca/dreger-seems-likely-sens-trade-turris-this-season-1.877386 (http://www.tsn.ca/dreger-seems-likely-sens-trade-turris-this-season-1.877386)
Quote from: Jersey on September 21, 2017, 01:34:50 PM
Lmao. No, not me. I just have a huge Oilers decel on my side of the door (passenger) and Bombers logo on other drivers side door. And we have bombers licence plates. Then back window has our team's. It's all sportsified.
I know church goes get all mad about it. I say McJesus all time. I pray...pray to him 😂
Haha! Then I saw you driving down Lagimodiere in early October. White SUV? Saw the 3 team logos and figured it was you. Nice vehicle ruined by butt ugly flags and decals... :D
Real classy 👌. Secondly... they're my team's. If it hurts you... why dont you go and support ur team's? Unless it was weekend or after 6pm, that wasn't me in car. Lot Q will be tailgating Saturday. Come tell us how crappy it looks... will be reppin all afternoon.
Beautiful teams🚨
Quote from: Jersey on October 11, 2017, 02:04:28 PM
Real classy 👌. Secondly... they're my team's. If it hurts you... why dont you go and support ur team's? Unless it was weekend or after 6pm, that wasn't me in car. Lot Q will be tailgating Saturday. Come tell us how crappy it looks... will be reppin all afternoon.
Beautiful teams🚨
Ummmm.....what? I support my teams thanks. I don't have to decorate my vehicle to the extreme to show support. A bit sensitive are we? Lol
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on October 12, 2017, 01:20:48 AM
Ummmm.....what? I support my teams thanks. I don't have to decorate my vehicle to the extreme to show support. A bit sensitive are we? Lol
dont be rude for no reason and you wont get a response that way!
Quote from: Jersey on October 12, 2017, 03:26:08 AM
dont be rude for no reason and you wont get a response that way!
Lol! Knocking a team's colours and logos is rude? Okay then. ::)
boy do they suck!
huge fan, super fan but boy is it bad
Lol where Jersey
Off the bandwagon?
Lol
Cry me a river. Jets sign Mason and he has allowed 16 goals in 3 games so far (all 3 losses). Hellebyuck has allowed 7 goals in 3 games (all 3 wins) - looks like a wasted signing on Mason already. >:( >:( ::) ::)
why do the Oilers rank their own thread?? pop it in the NHL discussion...
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 18, 2017, 03:55:01 AM
Lol where Jersey
Off the bandwagon?
Lol
Jersey only talks about sports if the team is winning, or if their fans are the loudest.
Quote from: Chris1982 on October 18, 2017, 10:58:34 AM
Cry me a river. Jets sign Mason and he has allowed 16 goals in 3 games so far (all 3 losses). Hellebyuck has allowed 7 goals in 3 games (all 3 wins) - looks like a wasted signing on Mason already. >:( >:( ::) ::)
There's an overly simplistic and ignorant way of looking at it. Mason has been shaky but in the three games the Jets have won, they were much better as a whole than in their three lopsided losses. You can't fault just the goalie.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 18, 2017, 02:18:56 PM
There's an overly simplistic and ignorant way of looking at it. Mason has been shaky but in the three games the Jets have won, they were much better as a whole than in their three lopsided losses. You can't fault just the goalie.
Ya fault the loser Coach. 7 loses away from being the all time NHL leader in HC loses.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 18, 2017, 07:04:13 PM
Ya fault the loser Coach. 7 loses away from being the all time NHL leader in HC loses.
6 after last night's bed-pooping at BellMTS Place. :-\
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 18, 2017, 08:51:12 PM
6 after last night's bed-pooping at BellMTS Place. :-\
right!
Holy cow Wpg. It's like 5 games into the Oilers season...relax. no wonder this city doesn't support their teams well. You're excited all October, putting down leafs, oilers etc... and then it usually evens out. Obviously your pride is hurt. It makes me smile seeing so many ppl worry about Oilers record yaaaas❤ p.s. I've hardly been on here since end of September. So girls calm down. Stop fighting for me. Honestly, its over whelming
Jayrock, I always talk esp to you even when bombers sucked. Jayrock, my buddy...where you been all last year in the hockey talk? Right, sit down. You're outta your league, hiding during Oilers run. I get it :D
Goldmember. Youre the guy on jets thread that hates and fires everyone after a loss. Bandwagon...check yourself. You're the worst type of fan. I been through the worst of Oilers had to give and 6 games in, I sure ain't going be affected becuz I know how long season is. I seen your comments just now after ur first two Jets losses and then after a win. Brilliant. Haha. Worry less about my team and figure out what and who you like on your team. Again 6 games in and you think standings are settled. Cute.
For the record. I don't think Oilers can be SC team with this roster. Playoffs of coarse. But it would be tough as hell with this roster. I wanna trade Nuge for a RWinger so bad
Quote from: Jersey on October 20, 2017, 02:15:05 PM
Holy cow Wpg. It's like 5 games into the Oilers season...relax. no wonder this city doesn't support their teams well. You're excited all October, putting down leafs, oilers etc... and then it usually evens out. Obviously your pride is hurt. It makes me smile seeing so many ppl worry about Oilers record yaaaas❤ p.s. I've hardly been on here since end of September. So girls calm down. Stop fighting for me. Honestly, its over whelming
Jayrock, I always talk esp to you even when bombers sucked. Jayrock, my buddy...where you been all last year in the hockey talk? Right, sit down. You're outta your league, hiding during Oilers run. I get it :D
Goldmember. Youre the guy on jets thread that hates and fires everyone after a loss. Bandwagon...check yourself. You're the worst type of fan. I been through the worst of Oilers had to give and 6 games in, I sure ain't going be affected becuz I know how long season is. I seen your comments just now after ur first two Jets losses and then after a win. Brilliant. Haha. Worry less about my team and figure out what and who you like on your team. Again 6 games in and you think standings are settled. Cute.
For the record. I don't think Oilers can be SC team with this roster. Playoffs of coarse. But it would be tough as hell with this roster. I wanna trade Nuge for a RWinger so bad
Yay I?m a bandwagon Jet fan. Whats your point? At least I don?t hide the fact.
Quote from: Jersey on October 20, 2017, 02:15:05 PM
Holy cow Wpg. It's like 5 games into the Oilers season...relax. no wonder this city doesn't support their teams well. You're excited all October, putting down leafs, oilers etc... and then it usually evens out. Obviously your pride is hurt. It makes me smile seeing so many ppl worry about Oilers record yaaaas❤ p.s. I've hardly been on here since end of September. So girls calm down. Stop fighting for me. Honestly, its over whelming
Jayrock, I always talk esp to you even when bombers sucked. Jayrock, my buddy...where you been all last year in the hockey talk? Right, sit down. You're outta your league, hiding during Oilers run. I get it :D
Goldmember. Youre the guy on jets thread that hates and fires everyone after a loss. Bandwagon...check yourself. You're the worst type of fan. I been through the worst of Oilers had to give and 6 games in, I sure ain't going be affected becuz I know how long season is. I seen your comments just now after ur first two Jets losses and then after a win. Brilliant. Haha. Worry less about my team and figure out what and who you like on your team. Again 6 games in and you think standings are settled. Cute.
For the record. I don't think Oilers can be SC team with this roster. Playoffs of coarse. But it would be tough as hell with this roster. I wanna trade Nuge for a RWinger so bad
Holy moly!
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/v8mZc0w2CQ4/hqdefault.jpg)
On another note, leaf fans are awfully quiet at my workplace this week...
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 23, 2017, 07:48:26 PM
Holy moly!
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/v8mZc0w2CQ4/hqdefault.jpg)
LMAO
Not mad at all.
Huge trade involving three teams, Duchene, and Turris: http://www.tsn.ca/senators-acquire-duchene-in-three-team-deal-1.906441 (http://www.tsn.ca/senators-acquire-duchene-in-three-team-deal-1.906441)
Now I'm a solid Sens fans ........ not counting the Jets of course ........... Great get for the Sens, as Duchesne, in my eyes, is a super player.
Turris also being solid has just made the Preds even much better
The Avs got some serious good potential & are winner's here.
#SurgeofOrange
lmao.
Forbes has released its annual valuations of all 31 NHL franchises: https://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/list/ (https://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/list/)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 05, 2017, 08:03:43 PM
Forbes has released its annual valuations of all 31 NHL franchises: https://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/list/ (https://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/list/)
I call BS
the sens are in financial turmoil with a empty rink in a crappy location
Weird proposal I came up with. Would love to hear input on this and have a discussion.
With talk of Seattle coming in (obviously nowhere near fruition yet), we would have even teams (32) and a potential 16 vs. 16 in the east and west, and 8 teams in each division. For this, some realignment is in order. The NHL said the last time they realigned a few years ago, a lot of it was weighted toward common time zone, which makes total sense. I kept that in mind as a number one priority, with (potential) rivalry being second.
Pacific: Central:
VAN EDM
SEA CGY
SJ WPG
LA MIN
ANA CHI
LV STL
AZ NSH
COL DAL
Metro and Atl stay the same, as they already had 8 in each division, and are all on EST time.
Biggest challenge is what to do with the 3 teams on mountain time (COL, EDM, CGY). I thought it would be interesting to add Colorado to their neighbours in the southwest, as they probably relate to people there more compared to those in the Midwest as they have it now in the Central. Edmonton and Calgary continue their rivalry with each other, and add Winnipeg to that list for more games against each other.
Move Florida to Quebec City, keeping the Lightning as "Florida's team" (Can even rename to "Florida Lightning" and play out of TB), and even down the line consider moving Carolina to Southern Ontario (Hamilton, London, whatever).
Thoughts?
Would it make ANY sense at all to share the Senators between Ottawa and Quebec City? Even have a few nights a year where they play home games in Quebec (games that Ottawa is actually going to lose money on due to an empty building)
Quote from: theaardvark on December 15, 2017, 03:14:43 PM
Would it make ANY sense at all to share the Senators between Ottawa and Quebec City? Even have a few nights a year where they play home games in Quebec (games that Ottawa is actually going to lose money on due to an empty building)
Not the worst idea. Of course by "sharing", keeping it exactly as the Ottawa Senators brand but playing maybe 5 games per year there. Would probably make good coin compared to how the Ottawa arena will look by year's end.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 14, 2017, 08:09:48 PM
Weird proposal I came up with. Would love to hear input on this and have a discussion.
With talk of Seattle coming in (obviously nowhere near fruition yet), we would have even teams (32) and a potential 16 vs. 16 in the east and west, and 8 teams in each division. For this, some realignment is in order. The NHL said the last time they realigned a few years ago, a lot of it was weighted toward common time zone, which makes total sense. I kept that in mind as a number one priority, with (potential) rivalry being second.
Pacific: Central:
VAN EDM
SEA CGY
SJ WPG
LA MIN
ANA CHI
LV STL
AZ NSH
COL DAL
Metro and Atl stay the same, as they already had 8 in each division, and are all on EST time.
Biggest challenge is what to do with the 3 teams on mountain time (COL, EDM, CGY). I thought it would be interesting to add Colorado to their neighbours in the southwest, as they probably relate to people there more compared to those in the Midwest as they have it now in the Central. Edmonton and Calgary continue their rivalry with each other, and add Winnipeg to that list for more games against each other.
Move Florida to Quebec City, keeping the Lightning as "Florida's team" (Can even rename to "Florida Lightning" and play out of TB), and even down the line consider moving Carolina to Southern Ontario (Hamilton, London, whatever).
Thoughts?
The only one that seems out of place is to me is Colorado. So, if they?re realigning, that?s probably as close as you can make it.
I would love more games against the Oilers and Flames.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 16, 2017, 06:51:43 PM
Not the worst idea. Of course by "sharing", keeping it exactly as the Ottawa Senators brand but playing maybe 5 games per year there. Would probably make good coin compared to how the Ottawa arena will look by year's end.
Since my post, Melnyk has shot himself in the foot, talking about moving the franchise. I guess that he thinks that will spark some sort of loyalty push to put butts in the seats to show him they should stay.
Unfortunately, I think it will have the opposite effect. No one is feeling sorry for him having to pay out money on the teams financial woes. If he's just going to move the team as soon as he can, lets not give him any more of our hard earned cash.
Watch that arena empty... sad really, when the Red Blacks have done so well. Its not the market, and certainly not the team, (other than recent struggles).
Maybe moving the team to Quebec full time is the answer, for both parties. Quebec City is only 2/3s the size of Ottawa, almost exactly the same size as Winnipeg, but probably a lot more passionate about hockey than Ottawa.
Giving Quebec City a team through expansion is impossible (too expensive), and moving an American team here would be harder than sliding Ottawa a little further east...
Quote from: Jesse on December 17, 2017, 01:48:15 PM
The only one that seems out of place is to me is Colorado. So, if they?re realigning, that?s probably as close as you can make it.
I would love more games against the Oilers and Flames.
Yeah, it's tough to deal with the Oilers, Flames, and Avs because they are the only 3 on mountain time so they don't really fit anywhere. Thought it made sense to give them the rivalry with the Southwest mountain-y teams (Vegas, AZ), and keep the Oiler/Flames rivalry alive by keeping them together. Probably have more in common with teams in the Central anyway, since they actually have winter unlike the California teams. I realize the logic is kinda petty but just trying to be as accurate as possible.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 17, 2017, 02:28:41 PM
Watch that arena empty... sad really, when the Red Blacks have done so well. Its not the market, and certainly not the team, (other than recent struggles).
Maybe moving the team to Quebec full time is the answer, for both parties. Quebec City is only 2/3s the size of Ottawa, almost exactly the same size as Winnipeg, but probably a lot more passionate about hockey than Ottawa.
Giving Quebec City a team through expansion is impossible (too expensive), and moving an American team here would be harder than sliding Ottawa a little further east...
The RedBlacks' success has nothing to do with the Senators, so why even bring them up? The Senators were a game away from being Eastern Conference Championships barely six months ago, anyway.
How is relocating the team to Quebec City the answer? And how are fans there "probably a lot more passionate" than fans in Ottawa? It isn't like Scotiabank Centre is empty - it's averaging over 16,400 fans per game, which translates to over 93% capacity so far this season. Just so you know, that's roughly the same as Vancouver this season.
Another gem of a post. :D
The Ottawa Senators aren't going anywhere. Unless it's to a new and better located home venue.
Quote from: Jersey on October 05, 2017, 02:56:31 PM
Hey I'm willing to stand by that in year 2 vs Crosby. Connor career just getting started. But Crosby achievements of winning I only can hope McDavid follows. It's not easy. But watch this kid 97 play he is a piece of work.
December can't come fast enough for my trip to Edmonton for 3 games. NYE vs Jets, jan 2 vs la and jan 4 vs ANA. Eeeek
;D
The oilers sure looked lost tonight and that is always awesome! The Jets just continue to amaze me. Our player depth is definitely showing in spades right now. Love it!
Just guessing .......... Oiler's coach gone, if results are poor in the next 10 games of 2018.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on January 01, 2018, 01:35:24 AM
;D
The oilers sure looked lost tonight and that is always awesome! The Jets just continue to amaze me. Our player depth is definitely showing in spades right now. Love it!
:D
And now McDavid is getting upset: https://www.tsn.ca/mcdavid-nhl-should-lose-offside-challenges-1.964019 (https://www.tsn.ca/mcdavid-nhl-should-lose-offside-challenges-1.964019)
While I can appreciate his frustration, offside is offside.
Speaking of McDavid where the heck is Jersey lately?
Busy crying in his Oiler Wheaties I guess, lol.
No he's not a bandwagon Oiler fan, no no. ;D
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 10, 2018, 05:34:34 PM
Speaking of McDavid where the heck is Jersey lately?
Busy crying in his Oiler Wheaties I guess, lol.
No he's not a bandwagon Oiler fan, no no. ;D
How about his buddy that went on and on about:
-How bad the Jets were and how they had no depth
-How bad the Moose were
-How thin the prospect pool was
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on January 10, 2018, 05:42:13 PM
How about his buddy that went on and on about:
-How bad the Jets were and how they had no depth
-How bad the Moose were
-How thin the prospect pool was
Those two have completely vanished. :D
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Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2018, 05:54:07 PM
Those two have completely vanished. :D
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Delightful. It's only fair you get to unearth that after he did it last year.
#progress
Going from game 7 in the second round and talking about how far they will go next year, to not making the post season the next. That's gotta smart!!
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 10, 2018, 06:50:16 PM
Delightful. It's only fair you get to unearth that after he did it last year.
#progress
Going from game 7 in the second round and talking about how far they will go next year, to not making the post season the next. That's gotta smart!!
Choking on crow can't be fun. ;D
In other news, the Blackhawks and the Coyotes have made a trade: https://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-acquire-duclair-in-four-player-deal-1.964611 (https://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-acquire-duclair-in-four-player-deal-1.964611)
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The Arizona Coyotes have traded forward Anthony Duclair and defenceman Adam Clendening to the Chicago Blackhawks in exchange for forwards Richard Panik and Laurent Dauphin.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2018, 11:02:22 PM
Choking on crow can't be fun. ;D
In other news, the Blackhawks and the Coyotes have made a trade: https://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-acquire-duclair-in-four-player-deal-1.964611 (https://www.tsn.ca/blackhawks-acquire-duclair-in-four-player-deal-1.964611)
JERSEY! EARTH TO THE OILER SUPER FAN! A GEEEZ THINK MCFLY THINK!
DuClair for Panik seems like a cap move as it saves the Hawks about 1.25 in cap space. They lost again yesterday to the Wild. I don?t see this move as a an upgrade to Chi town.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2018, 05:54:07 PM
Those two have completely vanished. :D
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That is nothing....compared to these:
Quote from: bomber4life85 on August 16, 2017, 05:39:06 AM
My post was stating that the Jets prospects aren't any good and they showed it. Did they come close to playoffs? No. And you claim I don't know what a prospect is. I never stated I didn't know. With their lack of signings and improvements this year it's going to be another loooong year. 5th in division is generous, they may take 6th infront of Colorado
Quote from: bomber4life85 on August 16, 2017, 06:24:48 AM
Colton I said the prospects suck because the AHL team sucks. Not because they didn't make the playoffs. I stated they didn't make the playoffs. I'm not dumb. I know what prospects are. Someone mentioned prospect pool. I said what prospect pool. Our prospects have been prospects since 2011. Nothing's amounted to anything. The young stars tourney of Jets prospects were absolutly terrible. Winnipegs AHL team was near bottom of the league.. again..so where's all these prospects?? Let me clarify my point again. The jets aren't going anywhere. They will be near bottom of division again. Their goaltending sucks, their D sucks and their prospects aren't amounting to anything. There's no arguing that because the proof is in the stats. They fluked playoffs one year because Pavelec decided to stun the league with amazing goaltending. I just don't see anyone stepping up on D or goaltending to make a difference this year. The few prospects that have done very well for Winnipeg and are still year don't have a team built around them. Bad trades, cheap out signings are a huge part of the problem. Who's stepping up on D this year? Who's stepping up in goal? I don't see anyone. They took a step forward when they made the playoffs.. it's been a step back every year since then.
Quote from: bomber4life85 on August 16, 2017, 06:20:16 PM
Who said I was an Oilers fan I just tell it like it is. You can keep saying Jets had wins against string opponents etc. I never said they wouldn't win a game. Some people can't handle the truth about Jets poor management and it's the reason why they will miss the playoffs again. Like I said last year. I tell it like it is. Not bias. If the Jets were capable of a playoff push and had a chance, I'd have no issue saying it. Anyways that's all I'm saying in the Jets part of this forum until they're out agsin in feb . ;)
Quote from: bomber4life85 on August 21, 2017, 11:04:57 PM
Uhh he's been hardcore oil fan since I can remember even when they sucked. Oilers are a team to talk about now. They'll likely be next cdn team to win cup. Jersey always is on hockey forums talking bout Oilers last 10 years. He's literally Winnipeg s biggest oil fan since like 2002
Evander Kane tops TSN's Top 20 Trade Bait list: https://www.tsn.ca/evander-kane-tops-tsn-trade-bait-board-1.965103 (https://www.tsn.ca/evander-kane-tops-tsn-trade-bait-board-1.965103)
1. Evander Kane, BUF
2. Mike Green, DET
3. Patrick Maroon, EDM
4. Mike Hoffman, OTT
5. Max Pacioretty, MTL
6. Tomas Vanek, VAN
7. Alex Galchenyuk, MTL
8. Erik Gudbranson, VAN
9. Zack Smith, OTT
10. James Neal, VGK
11. David Perron, VGK
12. Ian Cole, PIT
13. Andrew Shaw, MTL
14. Mark Letestu, EDM
15. Rick Nash, NYR
16. Cody Franson, CHI
17. Robin Lehner, BUF
18. Dion Phaneuf, OTT
19. Petr Mrazek, DET
20. Tyson Barrie, COL
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 11, 2018, 07:14:56 PM
Evander Kane tops TSN's Top 20 Trade Bait list: https://www.tsn.ca/evander-kane-tops-tsn-trade-bait-board-1.965103 (https://www.tsn.ca/evander-kane-tops-tsn-trade-bait-board-1.965103)
1. Evander Kane, BUF
2. Mike Green, DET
3. Patrick Maroon, EDM
4. Mike Hoffman, OTT
5. Max Pacioretty, MTL
6. Tomas Vanek, VAN
7. Alex Galchenyuk, MTL
8. Erik Gudbranson, VAN
9. Zack Smith, OTT
10. James Neal, VGK
11. David Perron, VGK
12. Ian Cole, PIT
13. Andrew Shaw, MTL
14. Mark Letestu, EDM
15. Rick Nash, NYR
16. Cody Franson, CHI
17. Robin Lehner, BUF
18. Dion Phaneuf, OTT
19. Petr Mrazek, DET
20. Tyson Barrie, COL
To be honest none of those guys do anything for me. I think the Jets are awesome way they are. I think no moves are the best moves for this group! The depth is awesome at all positions.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 11, 2018, 08:59:51 PM
To be honest none of those guys do anything for me. I think the Jets are awesome way they are. I think no moves are the best moves for this group! The depth is awesome at all positions.
I don't see the Jets going after any of these players. But other teams will show interest.
Tough game for the Bolts last night. Lost 5-1 to the Flames and Hedman went down with what looks like a pretty brutal knee injury: https://www.tsn.ca/hedman-leaves-lightning-game-with-lbi-1.965874 (https://www.tsn.ca/hedman-leaves-lightning-game-with-lbi-1.965874)
Mind blowing stat of the day...Goal differential by division:
Pacific: -49
Atlantic: -44
Metropolitan: -7
Central: +100
Also the Avs have already matched their win total from last year 🤯
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on January 12, 2018, 05:39:04 PM
Mind blowing stat of the day...Goal differential by division:
Pacific: -49
Atlantic: -44
Metropolitan: -7
Central: +100
Also the Avs have already matched their win total from last year 🤯
(https://i.imgur.com/MEmmreB.jpg)
Seriously, though... that is unbelievable.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on January 12, 2018, 05:39:04 PM
Mind blowing stat of the day...Goal differential by division:
Pacific: -49
Atlantic: -44
Metropolitan: -7
Central: +100
Also the Avs have already matched their win total from last year 🤯
That explains a bit of the Vegas success.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on January 12, 2018, 05:39:04 PM
Mind blowing stat of the day...Goal differential by division:
Pacific: -49
Atlantic: -44
Metropolitan: -7
Central: +100
Also the Avs have already matched their win total from last year 🤯
slow day at the office?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 12, 2018, 01:24:24 PM
I don't see the Jets going after any of these players. But other teams will show interest.
Tough game for the Bolts last night. Lost 5-1 to the Flames and Hedman went down with what looks like a pretty brutal knee injury: https://www.tsn.ca/hedman-leaves-lightning-game-with-lbi-1.965874 (https://www.tsn.ca/hedman-leaves-lightning-game-with-lbi-1.965874)
Hedman is out 3-6 weeks.
McJesus is 21 tomorrow he can drink anywhere now!🍺🍸🍾
Will jersey even show up here for that or is he in a shrink session?😭
Time will tell.....🤔
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 12, 2018, 07:25:41 PM
slow day at the office?
At Bardown HQ, sure.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on January 12, 2018, 08:23:45 PM
That's not so bad.
Bolts have a top defensive corps but losing a Norris frontrunner for close to a month is pretty tough.
https://www.tsn.ca/jagr-clears-waivers-likely-heading-to-europe-1.981564 (https://www.tsn.ca/jagr-clears-waivers-likely-heading-to-europe-1.981564)
That's probably it for Jagr in the NHL.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2018, 04:24:46 PM
https://www.tsn.ca/jagr-clears-waivers-likely-heading-to-europe-1.981564 (https://www.tsn.ca/jagr-clears-waivers-likely-heading-to-europe-1.981564)
That's probably it for Jagr in the NHL.
can he play D the Jets should sign him now that Trouba is down.
interesting...
Big news out of NSH with the Predators set to announce Mike Fisher @mikefisher1212 is coming out of retirement to return as an active player. Not sure anyone saw this coming, perhaps including Fisher himself.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 31, 2018, 03:53:44 PM
interesting...
Big news out of NSH with the Predators set to announce Mike Fisher @mikefisher1212 is coming out of retirement to return as an active player. Not sure anyone saw this coming, perhaps including Fisher himself.
I didn't even know he retired ???
Quote from: gbill2004 on January 31, 2018, 03:57:49 PM
I didn't even know he retired ???
Honestly I didn't either :)
Quote from: The Zipp on January 31, 2018, 03:53:44 PM
interesting...
Big news out of NSH with the Predators set to announce Mike Fisher @mikefisher1212 is coming out of retirement to return as an active player. Not sure anyone saw this coming, perhaps including Fisher himself.
Kinda strange. I wonder what his contract will be.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 31, 2018, 04:11:40 PM
Kinda strange. I wonder what his contract will be.
they just want Carrie Underwood to sing the anthem at the playoff games.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 31, 2018, 04:16:32 PM
they just want Carrie Underwood to sing the anthem at the playoff games.
LOL that?s what a I thought
He?s problably rotting at home while Carrie is a busy beaver.
Avalanche F Nathan MacKinnon out 2-4 weeks with an upper body injury. That's a tough loss for the Avs.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 01, 2018, 07:30:37 PM
Avalanche F Nathan MacKinnon out 2-4 weeks with an upper body injury. That's a tough loss for the Avs.
he was on fire for sure...Jets play them twice in a 2 week period so unless he has a quick recovery he won't be in the lineup for either game.
Pittsburgh gave Marc Andre Fleury a pretty nice salute last night. Gave him a standing ovation and a big video tribute thanking him for his years with the Pens.... it was a pretty classy showing.
Burrows gets ten games for being a dummy: https://www.tsn.ca/sens-burrows-suspended-10-games-1.991518 (https://www.tsn.ca/sens-burrows-suspended-10-games-1.991518)
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Ottawa Senators forward Alexandre Burrows has been suspended 10 games for serving as an aggressor and kneeing New Jersey's Taylor Hall, NHL Player Safety announced Wednesday night.
During Tuesday's game against the Devils, Burrows took a big hit from Hall. During a stoppage in play, Burrows wrestled Hall to the ice and appeared to knee him twice in the head while positioned on top of him.
???
TSN's updated Trade Bait Top 40 list: https://www.tsn.ca/jeff-skinner-joins-tsn-s-trade-bait-board-1.992343 (https://www.tsn.ca/jeff-skinner-joins-tsn-s-trade-bait-board-1.992343)
Quite a number of big names on there.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 08, 2018, 08:28:19 PM
TSN's updated Trade Bait Top 40 list: https://www.tsn.ca/jeff-skinner-joins-tsn-s-trade-bait-board-1.992343 (https://www.tsn.ca/jeff-skinner-joins-tsn-s-trade-bait-board-1.992343)
Quite a number of big names on there.
Jets might be in the market for a goaltender with both Mason and Hutch suffering concussions.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 08, 2018, 09:22:37 PM
Jets might be in the market for a goaltender with both Mason and Hutch suffering concussions.
Yeah, I agree. The team can't afford to run Hellebuyck into the ground.
:D
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2018/02/sidney-crosby-never-let-children-play-hockey-risk-getting-drafted-edmonton-high/
Go Habs Go
Beat those Golden Showers!
Terrible anthem singer my ears were bleeding
The New York Rangers have traded forward Michael Grabner to the New Jersey Devils for a second round pick and a prospect (Rykov)
Quote from: The Zipp on February 23, 2018, 02:37:17 AM
The New York Rangers have traded forward Michael Grabner to the New Jersey Devils for a second round pick and a prospect (Rykov)
I read Grabner has 7 empty net goals this season so his stats are inflated. That?s a lot of empty net goals.
Lot of empty net goals ..... agree ...... but he is being used on the ice to protect the score near the end of regulation & somehow can get it down the ice.
Still is a fast skating player with a knack to score (minimal assists though) good, cheap price for Grabner
Quote from: The Zipp on February 23, 2018, 02:37:17 AM
The New York Rangers have traded forward Michael Grabner to the New Jersey Devils for a second round pick and a prospect (Rykov)
Really good trade for the Devils, IMO. They didn't give up all that much and gained a pretty good player for their playoff push.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 23, 2018, 03:47:49 PM
Really good trade for the Devils, IMO. They didn't give up all that much and gained a pretty good player for their playoff push.
Former Moose that IMO would have fit nicely on the 4th line, PK and for locking down wins when the opposition net is empty. A relatively cheap offer, and a possible inexpensive signing for 2018.
Wonder if Chevy was even interested??
Penguins acquire Senators forward Brassard for a first round pick and defenseman Cole.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 23, 2018, 07:39:57 PM
Penguins acquire Senators forward Brassard for a first round pick and defenseman Cole.
He should fit in real nice behind Sid & Geno, and make the PP even deadlier.
I like their chances of a 3peat.
Quote from: Nic16 on February 23, 2018, 08:31:14 PM
He should fit in real nice behind Sid & Geno, and make the PP even deadlier.
I like their chances of a 3peat.
Hey!!! What about our chances of a 1peat?! Traitor.
Quote from: Nic16 on February 23, 2018, 08:31:14 PM
He should fit in real nice behind Sid & Geno, and make the PP even deadlier.
I like their chances of a 3peat.
I'm surprised they gave up depth on their blue line. Cole's been pretty solid for them.
Deal has been turfed by the NHL.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 23, 2018, 11:08:17 PM
Deal has been turfed by the NHL.
Looks like it's gotta be changed due to cap complications: https://www.tsn.ca/pens-vgk-and-sens-working-on-brassard-trade-1.1008739 (https://www.tsn.ca/pens-vgk-and-sens-working-on-brassard-trade-1.1008739)
Bob McKenzie: I am told the NHL has approved the Derick Brassard trade to PIT. Details to follow.
Now it's official: https://www.tsn.ca/brassard-traded-to-penguins-in-three-team-deal-1.1008739 (https://www.tsn.ca/brassard-traded-to-penguins-in-three-team-deal-1.1008739)
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The Pittsburgh Penguins have officially acquired Derick Brassard in a three-way trade with the Senators and Golden Knights. Pittsburgh also gets forward Vincent Dunn from the Senators plus Ottawa's 2018 third-round pick, and they get forward Tobias Lindberg from Vegas.
The Senators get defenceman Ian Coles, goalie Filip Gustavsson, a 2018 first-round pick and a 2019 third-round pick from the Penguins.
The Golden Knights get forward Ryan Reaves and a 2018 fourth-round draft pick (originally acquired from Vancouver) from Pittsburgh. As part of the deal, Vegas is retaining 40% of Brassard's salary this season.
Not complicated at all. :D
Just saw on Twitter that Brassard was about to be heading to the Jets when Vegas got wind of it and helped to keep him in the east. Smart move but seriously what jerks!
From John Shannon:
So my question...why would Vegas take money on Brassard and help Pittsburgh? It appears otherwise, Brassard was heading to a western team, VGK got involved to keep him in the east. As I was told ?Better to face him in round 4 than 2.?
Am told that western team was Winnipeg
So, VGK "bought" a Winnipeg boy for $2 mil, instead of letting Winnipeg get Brassard?
And the league actually had to step in because the original deal was too sketchy?
Vegas is a real bad influence on the game of hockey ;)
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on February 24, 2018, 02:24:36 AM
Just saw on Twitter that Brassard was about to be heading to the Jets when Vegas got wind of it and helped to keep him in the east. Smart move but seriously what jerks!
From John Shannon:
So my question...why would Vegas take money on Brassard and help Pittsburgh? It appears otherwise, Brassard was heading to a western team, VGK got involved to keep him in the east. As I was told ?Better to face him in round 4 than 2.?
Am told that western team was Winnipeg
LOL the Golden Showers are scared of the Jets AWESOME!
Is it April yet?
Brassard is a big miss by the Jets ....... would also have liked Cole, as an upgrade over Enstrom.
Quote from: Jockitch on February 24, 2018, 10:54:38 PM
Brassard is a big miss by the Jets ....... would also have liked Cole, as an upgrade over Enstrom.
Sounds like Vegas helped Pittsburgh facilitate the Brassard trade to prevent the Jets from acquiring him.
Nash deal is done - seems like lots to give up but honestly don?t know much about these other guys
Rick Nash was traded to the Boston Bruins by the New York Rangers for forwards Ryan Spooner and Matt Beleskey, defenseman Ryan Lindgren, Boston's first-round pick in the 2018 NHL Draft and its seventh-round pick in 2018 on Sunday.
The 33-year-old forward is in the final season of an eight-year contract and can become an unrestricted free agent July 1. He has 28 points (18 goals, 10 assists) in 60 games this season. He has 799 points (434 goals, 365 assists) in 1,049 games during 15 NHL seasons with the Rangers and Columbus Blue Jackets, who traded him to New York on July 23, 2012.
Selected by the Blue Jackets with the No. 1 pick in the 2002 NHL Draft, Nash has 41 points (15 goals, 26 assists) in 77 Stanley Cup Playoff games.
The Rangers (27-30-5, 59 points) are last in the Metropolitan Division, and eight points behind the Blue Jackets for the second wild card into the Stanley Cup Playoffs from the Eastern Conference, entering their game against the Detroit Red Wings at Madison Square Garden on Sunday (7:30 p.m. ET; NHLN, MSG, FS-D, NHL.TV).
The Bruins (37-14-8, 82 points) are one point behind the Toronto Maple Leafs for second in the Atlantic Division and five behind the first-place Tampa Bay Lightning. They play the Carolina Hurricanes at TD Garden on Tuesday.
Defenseman Nick Holden was traded to Boston by New York for defenseman Rob O'Gara and a third-round pick in the 2018 draft on Feb. 20.
Sounding like Brassard used a NMC to nix the Winnipeg deal. If so, I'm hoping he is golfing sooner than later... still going to be annoyed at VGK for the assist on the trade, though.
Plekanec? Not seeing the fit so much... especially his age and speed... Copp is doing a fine job, and Lowry is coming back...
I'm not at all for acquiring a rental, but if we were interested in Nash, I'm glad we didn't pay what Boston had to pay!
Quote from: blue_or_die on February 25, 2018, 03:00:18 PM
I'm not at all for acquiring a rental, but if we were interested in Nash, I'm glad we didn't pay what Boston had to pay!
I agree
Copp just checks, though I cheer for his dogged energy, & has limited offensive talent ........ not a big asset for offensive cowboys like Ehlers & Laine.
St. Louis is on a mini slide ...out of the wildcard spot - preds destroyed them earlier today 4-0
Quote from: blue_or_die on February 25, 2018, 03:00:18 PM
I'm not at all for acquiring a rental, but if we were interested in Nash, I'm glad we didn't pay what Boston had to pay!
Ditto. That was a lot for a rental.
Quote from: Jockitch on February 25, 2018, 04:47:14 PM
Copp just checks, though I cheer for his dogged energy, & has limited offensive talent ........ not a big asset for offensive cowboys like Ehlers & Laine.
I wonder if Anisimov would be worth a look at 3C.
Saw more than one reference to this on my timeline...
Conor McKenna @mckennaconor
After adding Rick Nash and Brian Gionta, the Bruins are ready to win the 2009 Stanley Cup.
Quote from: The Zipp on February 25, 2018, 07:26:57 PM
St. Louis is on a mini slide ...out of the wildcard spot - preds destroyed them earlier today 4-0
Heard Stastny might be available. He'd sure look great as our 3C.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 26, 2018, 01:16:55 PM
Heard Stastny might be available. He'd sure look great as our 3C.
pass he?s finished
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 26, 2018, 01:05:09 PM
Ditto. That was a lot for a rental.
I wonder if Anisimov would be worth a look at 3C.
I'm definitely interested in Anisimov. We cannot be starting Hendricks in the playoffs....he needs to be in the press box for the playoffs.
Quote from: gbill2004 on February 26, 2018, 01:17:51 PM
I'm definitely interested in Anisimov. We cannot be starting Hendricks in the playoffs....he needs to be in the press box for the playoffs.
I wouldn't be opposed to Hendricks being 4C for the post-season, but I'd much rather have Lowry there instead with a player like Anisimov at 3C.
In other NHL news, Kovalchuk will apparently be a UFA on July 1: https://www.tsn.ca/kovalchuk-can-return-to-nhl-as-ufa-on-july-1st-1.1010718 (https://www.tsn.ca/kovalchuk-can-return-to-nhl-as-ufa-on-july-1st-1.1010718)
Ian Cole to Columbus for a 3rd. Jets were interested...
Cole would have slid in nicely, sorry Chiarot.
Statsny, having a decent year, is in final year of a big $$ contract but as a rental, to possibly center Ehlers & Laine ..... go for it Chevy
Anisimov has 3 more years left at over $4.5M ....... please no.
Oduya claimed off waivers by the Flyers, Stewart claimed off waivers by the Flames... Blackhawks trade Hartman to the Predators.
Chevy went for it ....... Statsny is a Jet
Quote from: Jockitch on February 26, 2018, 04:20:01 PM
Chevy went for it ....... Statsny is a Jet
This crow sure is tasty! Nom nom
Evander Kane going to San Jose.
good rental for the Sharks
Quote from: Jockitch on February 26, 2018, 06:58:06 PM
good rental for the Sharks
LOL
He will likely single handily divide Big Joe and little Joe and cause locker room slime!
Quote from: The Zipp on February 25, 2018, 07:26:57 PM
St. Louis is on a mini slide ...out of the wildcard spot - preds destroyed them earlier today 4-0
That mini slide is a full scale slump for the blues ..they are getting destroyed 8-3 by Minnesota
No wonder stastny wanted out
Quote from: The Zipp on February 28, 2018, 02:30:34 AM
That mini slide is a full scale slump for the blues ..they are getting destroyed 8-3 by Minnesota
No wonder stastny wanted out
Blues are actually yesterday?s news
http://3downnation.com/2018/03/04/nhl-considering-mosaic-stadium-for-outdoor-game/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/03/04/nhl-considering-mosaic-stadium-for-outdoor-game/)
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/regina-considered-nhl-possible-outdoor-game/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/regina-considered-nhl-possible-outdoor-game/)
???
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 05, 2018, 02:07:39 AM
http://3downnation.com/2018/03/04/nhl-considering-mosaic-stadium-for-outdoor-game/ (http://3downnation.com/2018/03/04/nhl-considering-mosaic-stadium-for-outdoor-game/)
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/regina-considered-nhl-possible-outdoor-game/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/regina-considered-nhl-possible-outdoor-game/)
???
A little weird to host an NHL outdoor game in a place with no NHL team, but if they put the right teams in, it could be very cool. Really nice stadium in a hockey-loving place. If they did a Jets vs Flames game, I would be interested for sure, and it would sell well between locals and fans of both teams flanking The Rectangle. Instead of an alumni game on the Saturday, they could maybe do a Blades vs. Pats game to showcase the WHL, and maybe Hitmen vs. Wheaties, too!
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 06, 2018, 02:09:49 PM
A little weird to host an NHL outdoor game in a place with no NHL team, but if they put the right teams in, it could be very cool. Really nice stadium in a hockey-loving place. If they did a Jets vs Flames game, I would be interested for sure, and it would sell well between locals and fans of both teams flanking The Rectangle. Instead of an alumni game on the Saturday, they could maybe do a Blades vs. Pats game to showcase the WHL, and maybe Hitmen vs. Wheaties, too!
For sure. I just can't see how any team would be willing to give up a home game to host it in another city. Unless there was a massive royalty involved.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 06, 2018, 02:36:41 PM
For sure. I just can't see how any team would be willing to give up a home game to host it in another city. Unless there was a massive royalty involved.
Tons of reasons. Expand team influence and marketability to other regions. Merchandise opportunities. Extra revenue from ticket sales. Offloads some of the ticket sales burden on other markets (Average ticket price in Winnipeg is $118.46. Capacity is 15,294. Crude and probably not totally accurate math ((118.46*15,294) = $1,811,727.24 per game. That's a lot of dough for our market and if you can pull that out of places like Finland or Regina that's not unhelpful to a season ticket base who mostly shares seats and packages anyway.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 06, 2018, 02:09:49 PM
A little weird to host an NHL outdoor game in a place with no NHL team, but if they put the right teams in, it could be very cool. Really nice stadium in a hockey-loving place. If they did a Jets vs Flames game, I would be interested for sure, and it would sell well between locals and fans of both teams flanking The Rectangle. Instead of an alumni game on the Saturday, they could maybe do a Blades vs. Pats game to showcase the WHL, and maybe Hitmen vs. Wheaties, too!
Have you seen the SSK presence in PHX? Phoenix would LOVE to play a "home" game in SSK at the Toilet Seat. They would make HUGE money on the gate, and build their branding as well. Getting 33k+ tickets sales compared to well less than half that, and a single game merch sell that would probably rival their best month of sales in Glendale, no brainer.
Not sure if they'd realize they were cheering for Winnipeg's old team, but hey, they're flatbillies, they won't care.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on March 06, 2018, 03:43:24 PM
Tons of reasons. Expand team influence and marketability to other regions. Merchandise opportunities. Extra revenue from ticket sales. Offloads some of the ticket sales burden on other markets (Average ticket price in Winnipeg is $118.46. Capacity is 15,294. Crude and probably not totally accurate math ((118.46*15,294) = $1,811,727.24 per game. That's a lot of dough for our market and if you can pull that out of places like Finland or Regina that's not unhelpful to a season ticket base who mostly shares seats and packages anyway.
An outdoor game is a considerable boon for the host city. I can't see TNSE going to another city to have its NHL team host an outdoor game, especially after how successful the 2016 Heritage Classic was. TNSE is as homegrown and pro-Winnipeg as an organization comes, so going to another city to host an outdoor game just doesn't fit with the way TNSE operates, IMO.
Expanding team influence and marketability is hardly an issue for the Jets, either. And those two reasons don't outweigh the economic gains of hosting an outdoor game within its own city unless there were significant royalties involved to do so in another location. If anything, TNSE would probably host another outdoor game at IGF.
The only realistic option to me would be two sunbelt teams playing at Mosaic 2.0 with considerable money being spent by the City of Regina and the Province of Saskatchewan to incentivize the event for those two organizations. Perhaps a game between the Coyotes and the Golden Knights is viable.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 06, 2018, 05:53:57 PM
An outdoor game is a considerable boon for the host city. I can't see TNSE going to another city to have its NHL team host an outdoor game, especially after how successful the 2016 Heritage Classic was. TNSE is as homegrown and pro-Winnipeg as an organization comes, so going to another city to host an outdoor game just doesn't fit with the way TNSE operates, IMO.
Expanding team influence and marketability is hardly an issue for the Jets, either. And those two reasons don't outweigh the economic gains of hosting an outdoor game within its own city unless there were significant royalties involved to do so in another location. If anything, TNSE would probably host another outdoor game at IGF.
The only realistic option to me would be two sunbelt teams playing at Mosaic 2.0 with considerable money being spent by the City of Regina and the Province of Saskatchewan to incentivize the event for those two organizations. Perhaps a game between the Coyotes and the Golden Knights is viable.
The NHL isn't going to let you host an outdoor game over and over in your own city unless you're Chicago. Hosting a game in Regina may be a way to get some of that revenue again where you might not have that chance otherwise.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 06, 2018, 05:53:57 PM
An outdoor game is a considerable boon for the host city. I can't see TNSE going to another city to have its NHL team host an outdoor game, especially after how successful the 2016 Heritage Classic was. TNSE is as homegrown and pro-Winnipeg as an organization comes, so going to another city to host an outdoor game just doesn't fit with the way TNSE operates, IMO.
Expanding team influence and marketability is hardly an issue for the Jets, either. And those two reasons don't outweigh the economic gains of hosting an outdoor game within its own city unless there were significant royalties involved to do so in another location. If anything, TNSE would probably host another outdoor game at IGF.
The only realistic option to me would be two sunbelt teams playing at Mosaic 2.0 with considerable money being spent by the City of Regina and the Province of Saskatchewan to incentivize the event for those two organizations. Perhaps a game between the Coyotes and the Golden Knights is viable.
They're going halfway around the world to play games in Finland and by all accounts, they were big proponents of it. There is a limit to the amount of revenue they can pull out of the Winnipeg market. What is the difference between regular season indoor games in Finland and a regular-season outdoor game in Regina? The business case is probably stronger for playing an outdoor game in Regina. Outdoor games are basically regional affairs for the most part so what possible 'significant boon' did Winnipeg get for hosting the Heritage Classic? The Olympics and Superbowl can try to claim that because of the volume of tourism an event like that generates, I'm sure the outdoor game was mostly attended by those in Winnipeg and the surrounding areas.
Quote from: Colton on March 06, 2018, 06:00:55 PM
The NHL isn't going to let you host an outdoor game over and over in your own city unless you're Chicago. Hosting a game in Regina may be a way to get some of that revenue again where you might not have that chance otherwise.
Chicago has hosted two (same as Boston, Buffalo, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and Washington) and will be hosting a third next season along with Philadelphia. What's with the "over and over" comment? ???
Why would the NHL get in the way of Winnipeg hosting another outdoor game?
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on March 06, 2018, 06:37:41 PM
They're going halfway around the world to play games in Finland and by all accounts, they were big proponents of it. There is a limit to the amount of revenue they can pull out of the Winnipeg market. What is the difference between regular season indoor games in Finland and a regular-season outdoor game in Regina? The business case is probably stronger for playing an outdoor game in Regina. Outdoor games are basically regional affairs for the most part so what possible 'significant boon' did Winnipeg get for hosting the Heritage Classic? The Olympics and Superbowl can try to claim that because of the volume of tourism an event like that generates, I'm sure the outdoor game was mostly attended by those in Winnipeg and the surrounding areas.
I don't see a parallel between an outdoor game and the NHL Global Series. The latter is in place to promote the league and participating teams on the international stage and showcase players from overseas (Finland in this case). Of course TNSE would be on board with expanding its brand beyond North America. And in that particular case, each team loses a home game. How is that similar to hosting one outdoor game in Regina?
I hadn't thought of the tourism angle and I'm not sure if that plays a role. I was referring to the revenue generated locally by fans spending money at the games and nearby events, the increased price of tickets to attend it, as well as the sponsorship and marketing angles. That all amounts to an economic benefit for the host city. I have to think profit was generated as a result of the 2016 Heritage Classic. As I said previously, with TNSE being a prominent local entity, hosting an event in another city doesn't seem to fit into its framework as an organization.
I say that all strictly from an outside perspective, so this is just me speculating. I'm not sure how much stock can be put into what Friedman said the other night, anyway.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 06, 2018, 08:22:54 PM
Chicago has hosted two (same as Boston, Buffalo, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and Washington) and will be hosting a third next season along with Philadelphia. What's with the "over and over" comment? ???
Why would the NHL get in the way of Winnipeg hosting another outdoor game?
I don't see a parallel between an outdoor game and the NHL Global Series. The latter is in place to promote the league and participating teams on the international stage and showcase players from overseas (Finland in this case). Of course TNSE would be on board with expanding its brand beyond North America. And in that particular case, each team loses a home game. How is that similar to hosting one outdoor game in Regina?
I hadn't thought of the tourism angle and I'm not sure if that plays a role. I was referring to the revenue generated locally by fans spending money at the games and nearby events, the increased price of tickets to attend it, as well as the sponsorship and marketing angles. That all amounts to an economic benefit for the host city. I have to think profit was generated as a result of the 2016 Heritage Classic. As I said previously, with TNSE being a prominent local entity, hosting an event in another city doesn't seem to fit into its framework as an organization.
I say that all strictly from an outside perspective, so this is just me speculating. I'm not sure how much stock can be put into what Friedman said the other night, anyway.
That's sort of dubious and not really the way it works. Most of the ways these sporting events make a case for themselves having a positive economic impact is to highlight new wealth being brought in for the event (ie. tourism). If it's mainly a regional affair, then it's mostly Winnipeggers spending their discretionary and entertainment dollars and they would do that anyway - if not on an outdoor hockey game, then on something else (or somethings else). The ticket revenue isn't being reinvested back in the community (since it went to the league) so you can't count that. It didn't create many local jobs outside of perhaps temporary game day help/security (and the league brought in all their own people). Restaurants and bars probably saw a boost in revenue that day, but that's not really enough to move the needle in most cases, and they likely would have seen a boost of some kind if they were playing the game elsewhere because either way, the game is on TV.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on March 07, 2018, 03:54:53 PM
That's sort of dubious and not really the way it works. Most of the ways these sporting events make a case for themselves having a positive economic impact is to highlight new wealth being brought in for the event (ie. tourism). If it's mainly a regional affair, then it's mostly Winnipeggers spending their discretionary and entertainment dollars and they would do that anyway - if not on an outdoor hockey game, then on something else (or somethings else). The ticket revenue isn't being reinvested back in the community (since it went to the league) so you can't count that. It didn't create many local jobs outside of perhaps temporary game day help/security (and the league brought in all their own people). Restaurants and bars probably saw a boost in revenue that day, but that's not really enough to move the needle in most cases, and they likely would have seen a boost of some kind if they were playing the game elsewhere because either way, the game is on TV.
Outdoor games in US markets generate revenue.
The 2014 Winter Classic reportedly netted $20M: https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2014/01/13/Events-and-Attractions/Winter-Classic.aspx (https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2014/01/13/Events-and-Attractions/Winter-Classic.aspx)
The 2017 Winter Classic was projected to generate around $18M: http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2016/12/28/winter-classic-could-generate-more-than-18m-for-st-louis/ (http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2016/12/28/winter-classic-could-generate-more-than-18m-for-st-louis/)
I doubt the Canadian ones are an exception and the four Heritage Classic games have generated revenue, albeit on a lesser scale. I'm unable to find any figures online, though.
The 2011 Heritage Classic in Calgary set a sponsorship record at the time: http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/heritage-classic-sponsorship-trumps-winter-classic-surprises-nhl (http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/heritage-classic-sponsorship-trumps-winter-classic-surprises-nhl)
I'm sure local companies got on board as sponsors in Vancouver and Winnipeg for the Heritage Classic games in 2014 and 2016, respectively. Marquee events such as these are a good stage in that regard.
These outdoor games are meant to create revenue, so it seems reasonable to think through direct and indirect spending, revenue is generated for both the league and the host city. I don't see what's dubious about that.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 07, 2018, 05:15:40 PM
Outdoor games in US markets generate revenue.
The 2014 Winter Classic reportedly netted $20M: https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2014/01/13/Events-and-Attractions/Winter-Classic.aspx (https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2014/01/13/Events-and-Attractions/Winter-Classic.aspx)
The 2017 Winter Classic was projected to generate around $18M: http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2016/12/28/winter-classic-could-generate-more-than-18m-for-st-louis/ (http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2016/12/28/winter-classic-could-generate-more-than-18m-for-st-louis/)
I doubt the Canadian ones are an exception and the four Heritage Classic games have generated revenue, albeit on a lesser scale. I'm unable to find any figures online, though.
The 2011 Heritage Classic in Calgary set a sponsorship record at the time: http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/heritage-classic-sponsorship-trumps-winter-classic-surprises-nhl (http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/heritage-classic-sponsorship-trumps-winter-classic-surprises-nhl)
I'm sure local companies got on board as sponsors in Vancouver and Winnipeg for the Heritage Classic games in 2014 and 2016, respectively. Marquee events such as these are a good stage in that regard.
These outdoor games are meant to create revenue, so it seems reasonable to think through direct and indirect spending, revenue is generated for both the league and the host city. I don't see what's dubious about that.
You are misunderstanding the article (or me). Here's a quote from the first link:
QuoteAccording to an NHL source, the Jan. 1 game at Michigan Stadium posted more than $30 million in revenue against costs of $10 million.
This is saying the game was profitable for the league. The league made 20 million dollars. This does not mean that the city of Ann Arbor received that much in economic benefit. In fact, the opposite is more likely. The league pulled 30 million dollars from that market. That's a lot of money that won't be reinvested in the economy had all those people bought local products or services.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on March 07, 2018, 06:55:22 PM
You are misunderstanding the article (or me). Here's a quote from the first link:
This is saying the game was profitable for the league. The league made 20 million dollars. This does not mean that the city of Ann Arbor received that much in economic benefit. In fact, the opposite is more likely. The league pulled 30 million dollars from that market. That's a lot of money that won't be reinvested in the economy had all those people bought local products or services.
And you're calling my claims dubious...?
From the article regarding the 2014 Winter Classic: "...$3 million was paid to the University of Michigan to rent Michigan Stadium for four weeks."
And here's another link for that game: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2013/12/30/winter-classic-michigan-stadium-comerica-park-economic-impact/4258241/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2013/12/30/winter-classic-michigan-stadium-comerica-park-economic-impact/4258241/)
"No one can be sure what the economic impact will be for the area, but the Detroit Metro Convention and Visitors Bureau estimates the Comerica events will generate roughly $50 million to $60 million for the Detroit area, plus another $15 million going to Ann Arbor."
The link to the 2017 Winter Classic has some interesting information: "There are at least 18.5 million reasons why St. Louis scored big when it landed this major NHL event, according to economist Ruth Sergenian with St. Louis Regional Chamber.
That's the amount of impact - in dollars - that she expects the game itself and all of the events surrounding it will have here.
She says visitor spending and operations at Busch Stadium is expected to equal $9.6 million, while an additional $8.9 million will ripple through the local economy in the form of indirect spending."
Here's another article with figures showing what these outdoor games are worth: https://www.citylab.com/design/2012/01/what-hockey-game-worth/846/ (https://www.citylab.com/design/2012/01/what-hockey-game-worth/846/)
If these outdoor games were an economic drain on their host cities and the NHL just took its money and ran off, why would any of them be remotely interested in hosting one game, much less multiple ones?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 08, 2018, 01:53:00 AM
And you're calling my claims dubious...?
From the article regarding the 2014 Winter Classic: "...$3 million was paid to the University of Michigan to rent Michigan Stadium for four weeks."
And here's another link for that game: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2013/12/30/winter-classic-michigan-stadium-comerica-park-economic-impact/4258241/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2013/12/30/winter-classic-michigan-stadium-comerica-park-economic-impact/4258241/)
"No one can be sure what the economic impact will be for the area, but the Detroit Metro Convention and Visitors Bureau estimates the Comerica events will generate roughly $50 million to $60 million for the Detroit area, plus another $15 million going to Ann Arbor."
The link to the 2017 Winter Classic has some interesting information: "There are at least 18.5 million reasons why St. Louis scored big when it landed this major NHL event, according to economist Ruth Sergenian with St. Louis Regional Chamber.
That's the amount of impact - in dollars - that she expects the game itself and all of the events surrounding it will have here.
She says visitor spending and operations at Busch Stadium is expected to equal $9.6 million, while an additional $8.9 million will ripple through the local economy in the form of indirect spending."
Here's another article with figures showing what these outdoor games are worth: https://www.citylab.com/design/2012/01/what-hockey-game-worth/846/ (https://www.citylab.com/design/2012/01/what-hockey-game-worth/846/)
If these outdoor games were an economic drain on their host cities and the NHL just took its money and ran off, why would any of them be remotely interested in hosting one game, much less multiple ones?
Because cities don't 'bid' for them nor do they have much of a say in whether they get played. Also, I don't think there's anything wrong with the fact that these games get played. I went, I had a good time. I just don't believe your earlier claim that they are much of an 'economic benefit' to the host city. I'm not trying to be rude, but your first bit of proof was just an article about the revenue vs expenses of putting the game on. That sort of leads me to believe you are sort of confused about what I'm suggesting. In this most recent article, it's again mostly talking about revenues (I'm not disputing it's not a revenue generator for the league, and possibly teams depending on the deal between league and team).
You will note in this more recent article (quoted below) that they are suggesting that local fans who attend these events spend less on game-related expenses which is the only place you can argue there's an economic benefit from. They also don't stay in hotels and are more likely to eat at home. Souvenir sales are nice for the league and possibly team, if they get a cut, but are not an economic benefit for the host city. Not to mention, money is finite. If local people spend their entertainment and discretionary dollars on this game, they are spending less on going out for dinner, movies, plays, etc, in the future.
The theory of economic benefit for sporting events (or any large event) should be evaluated by new money being spent in our economy. If the game attracts hockey fans from all over the country, the hotels are booked, and everyone goes out to eat and have a good time, there's real benefit tangible benefit. If the NHL puts on an outdoor game and Winnipegger's all spend $400 dollars to go, there really isn't an economic benefit there. It's a fun thing for our city, but don't pretend (or believe) it's generating wealth for the city of Winnipeg. It absolutely is not.
QuoteLast year?s game, held at Heinz Park in Pittsburgh, wasn?t quite that lucrative. Revenues there were about $22 million, even 68,111 fans attended, says Craig Davis, vice president of sales and marketing for Visit Pittsburgh, the city?s tourism agency. The lower tally was due to the fact that about half the spectators were from the Pittsburgh area and spent only $34 a day on game-related expenses, or about $6.1 million. Out of town fans, however, spent $93 a day, or about $16 million, on everything from parking to hotel rooms and restaurant meals, he says. Souvenir sales were especially brisk.
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1495655
The worst contract of every team in the NHL.
It's apparently Kulikov for the Jets. I don't mind his deal one bit but the Jets don't really have a lot of bad ones to choose from.
Ladd has it for the NYI.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on March 09, 2018, 05:50:20 PM
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1495655
The worst contract of every team in the NHL.
It's apparently Kulikov for the Jets. I don't mind his deal one bit but the Jets don't really have a lot of bad ones to choose from.
Ladd has it for the NYI.
I'm perfectly fine with Kulikov's contract if that's consider the worst one on the Jets. AAV might be a little high, but at only 3 years and a position of need, its a good contract in my opinion. Kulikov has been solid this year.
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 09, 2018, 05:57:00 PM
I'm perfectly fine with Kulikov's contract if that's consider the worst one on the Jets. AAV might be a little high, but at only 3 years and a position of need, its a good contract in my opinion. Kulikov has been solid this year.
Yeah, if that's the worst contract the Jets currently own, fantastic. Kulikov has been a very pleasant surprise this season and easily one of the best FA moves Cheveldayoff has made.
Sad news out of Ottawa. Erik Karlsson and his wife lost their baby boy due to be born next month. I can?t imagine how heartbroken they must be. He was so excited in their gender reveal video.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 20, 2018, 11:10:30 PM
Sad news out of Ottawa. Erik Karlsson and his wife lost their baby boy due to be born next month. I can?t imagine how heartbroken they must be. He was so excited in their gender reveal video.
Sad.
Cam Ward...wow
Don?t see that every day...in fact I have never before...
Quote from: The Zipp on March 23, 2018, 12:42:38 AM
Cam Ward...wow
Don?t see that every day...in fact I have never before...
Care to explain what you?re talking about ???
Quote from: gbill2004 on March 23, 2018, 12:57:24 AM
Care to explain what you?re talking about ???
Just give it a search on twitter. Or the internet...If I explain it the wonder will be diminished. It?s all over the place.
I don?t know if he is to blame or not...just watch
Puck caught in the skate while he was behind the net, he went back to his goal, and his skate went in over the line, goal.
With their OT loss to the Sharks last night, the Golden Knights are the first team in NHL history to reach 100 points in the inaugural season.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 23, 2018, 12:36:18 PM
With their OT loss to the Sharks last night, the Golden Knights are the first team in NHL history to reach 100 points in the inaugural season.
Wow, what a run.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 23, 2018, 02:48:25 AM
Puck caught in the skate while he was behind the net, he went back to his goal, and his skate went in over the line, goal.
Oh now that is awesome/hilarious!
Sedines retired :o
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 02, 2018, 04:49:19 PM
Sedines retired :o
It's about time. They both played out their contracts, so that will open up a ton of cap space for the Canucks.
Really good news for the Canucks organization.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 02, 2018, 05:21:11 PM
Really good news for the Canucks organization.
Yup. They can just focus on total rebuild rather than trying to appease their two stars.
So hard dealing with players like that. You want to treat them right, but at a certain point they just become a drain on your resources.
Quote from: Jesse on April 02, 2018, 05:24:52 PM
Yup. They can just focus on total rebuild rather than trying to appease their two stars.
So hard dealing with players like that. You want to treat them right, but at a certain point they just become a drain on your resources.
Prime example where loyalty can really cripple a franchise. This is where I get afraid of the Little extension, and possible Wheeler extension.
Agreed. For a couple of seasons, all we had was Little and Wheeler, then on comes the young guns, first it's Shieff, then Liane, now Kyle Connor. Our overall team speed and puck quickness has went up exponentially with the youth movement.
I d like to see us extend both Little and Wheeler, they still are very productive, provide much needed leadership and have been here through the lean years, time for some cup runs!!
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 02, 2018, 05:27:16 PM
Prime example where loyalty can really cripple a franchise. This is where I get afraid of the Little extension, and possible Wheeler extension.
Our cup hit now is about 55mil. It could go as high as 80mil next year.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 05, 2018, 05:35:13 AM
Our cup hit now is about 55mil. It could go as high as 80mil next year.
We are much closer to the $75 mil max cap right now... we are a cap team.
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/jets
WINNIPEG JETS
PROJECTED CAP HIT Tooltip : $69,925,779
PROJECTED LTIR USED Tooltip : $0
PROJECTED CAP SPACE Tooltip : $5,074,221
CURRENT CAP SPACE Tooltip : $471,902,553
TODAYS CAP HIT Tooltip : $74,300,832
ROSTER SIZE: 29
CONTRACTS: 45/50
RESERVE LIST: 63/90
2017-2018 Cap Totals
http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/winnipeg-jets/cap/
Salary cap totals including salaries, buyout figures, and projected floor & cap space.
Cap Type Cap Total
2017-2018 Salary Cap Max $75,000,000
2017-2018 Salary Cap Floor $55,400,000
Overage/Adjustment $0
Winnipeg's Adjusted Salary Cap $75,000,000
Cap Type Base Salary Signing Bonus Perf. Bonus Total Salary Cap Total Adjusted Cap Total
Active Contracts $76,420,833 $712,500 $5,502,500 $70,039,871 $76,396,666 $70,975,103
Buried $4,882,500 $155,000 $200,000 $5,070,000 $2,274,051 $2,274,051
Buyout Money $1,750,000 - - $1,750,000 $1,458,333 $1,458,333
Total Cap Allocations $83,053,333 $867,500 $5,702,500 - $80,129,050 $74,707,487
Cap Space $292,513
https://www.nhlnumbers.com/team-salaries/2018/winnipeg-jets-salary-cap
Total Cap Hit Bonus Cushion LTIR Replacement Cap Space Avg Age
$74,116,147 $5,625,000 $0 $6,508,853 26
Quote from: dd on April 05, 2018, 03:42:28 AM
Agreed. For a couple of seasons, all we had was Little and Wheeler, then on comes the young guns, first it's Shieff, then Liane, now Kyle Connor. Our overall team speed and puck quickness has went up exponentially with the youth movement.
I d like to see us extend both Little and Wheeler, they still are very productive, provide much needed leadership and have been here through the lean years, time for some cup runs!!
Little was already extended for 6 years, which concerns me.
This is how Little's contract breaks down:
Starting in 2018-19:
$6.50M
$6.50M
$4.25M
$6.00M
$4.75M
$3.75M
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 05, 2018, 01:20:11 PM
This is how Little's contract breaks down:
Starting in 2018-19:
$6.50M
$6.50M
$4.25M
$6.00M
$4.75M
$3.75M
Same cap hit every year though at about $5.2 mill. What makes me feel better is that he can be traded after year 2 of the contract.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 05, 2018, 01:26:34 PM
Same cap hit every year though at about $5.2 mill. What makes me feel better is that he can be traded after year 2 of the contract.
The fact he played 80+ games for the first time since 2013-14 this year is a good thing too for his trade appeal. Hopefully he can stay healthy down the line.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 05, 2018, 01:35:10 PM
The fact he played 80+ games for the first time since 2013-14 this year is a good thing too for his trade appeal. Hopefully he can stay healthy down the line.
Healthy and perform. His production was down this season and that concerns me for a 30+ year old player. He is on the downswing of his career. We should be investing in the young guys, not the aging veterans who are a declining asset. Little has been a loyal soldier, but you need to separate loyalty from the decision making process. A couple bad contracts can cripple a team. But I trust Chevy so assume he has a plan in place. I just hope signing Little doesn't result in the inability to sign guys like Connor, or Roslovic down the road.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 05, 2018, 01:20:11 PM
This is how Little's contract breaks down:
Starting in 2018-19:
$6.50M
$6.50M
$4.25M
$6.00M
$4.75M
$3.75M
He needs to bounce back next season; no doubt about it.
I understand his production has decreased this season but some of the criticism directed at Little is over the top, IMO. We learned a while back he's been battling through some injuries. He's still the team's best player on face-offs and his defensive zone play has been solid more often than not.
If we're going to talk about concerning contracts, I'd put Perreault's at the top of my list.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 05, 2018, 01:41:49 PM
He needs to bounce back next season; no doubt about it.
I understand his production has decreased this season but some of the criticism directed at Little is over the top, IMO. We learned a while back he's been battling through some injuries. He's still the team's best player on face-offs and his defensive zone play has been solid more often than not.
If we're going to talk about concerning contracts, I'd put Perreault's at the top of my list.
Perreault only has 3 years left (at slightly over $4 mill cap hit), versus 6 years with Little. Plus Perreault can be traded at any time, where Little has a NMC for the first 2 years of his contract. I see Perreault's as less concerning, but agree his production this season has been a concern.
Anyone remember who Little had on his line for the majority of the 2015-16 and 2016-17 seasons?
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 05, 2018, 01:48:59 PM
Anyone remember who Little had on his line for the majority of the 2015-16 and 2016-17 seasons?
Would 15-16 be the famous Ladd Little, Wheeler?
And I don't think that makes a big difference...Little was paired with Laine and Ehlers at times this season and still couldn't produce :o
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 05, 2018, 01:48:59 PM
Anyone remember who Little had on his line for the majority of the 2015-16 and 2016-17 seasons?
15-16: Wheeler and Ladd
(http://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/fLines/1516/WPG/)
16-17: Ehlers and Laine
(http://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/fLines/1617/WPG/)
Also, this is probably irrelevant, but anyone have stats on his average TOI for the past 3 seasons?
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 05, 2018, 02:00:09 PM
Also, this is probably irrelevant, but anyone have stats on his average TOI for the past 3 seasons?
Just answered my own question.
He averaged 19:55 in 2016, 17:33 last year and 17:02 this year.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 05, 2018, 02:00:09 PM
Also, this is probably irrelevant, but anyone have stats on his average TOI for the past 3 seasons?
Last 3 years:
15-16: 19:36
16-17: 17:33
17-18: 17:02
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 05, 2018, 02:05:12 PM
Last 3 years:
15-16: 19:36
16-17: 17:33
17-18: 17:02
Yes.... 19:55 in 14-15.
That is quite a significant drop in the past 3 seasons.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 05, 2018, 02:02:46 PM
Just answered my own question.
He averaged 19:55 in 2016, 17:33 last year and 17:02 this year.
The 19:55 was 4 years ago in 14-15. In 15-16 it was 19:33.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 05, 2018, 02:06:37 PM
The 19:55 was 4 years ago in 14-15. In 15-16 it was 19:33.
Yup.... corrected myself in the post before this.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 05, 2018, 02:05:53 PM
Yes.... 19:55 in 14-15.
That is quite a significant drop in the past 3 seasons.
Yep, about 2 minutes less. My concern is that even looking at the 2 minutes, giving a 6 year contract to a guy who will be 31 years old when the contract kicks in is a bad decision. But if Chevy plans on trading him half way through, then it's not as bad.
Also, the NMC in the first 2 years of Little's contract means he must be protected in an upcoming Seattle expansion draft.
There is always the opportunity for either a buyout or getting a player to waive a NMC...
We are going to lose a very good player to Seattle, we're not going to get them to take a pending UFA like we did Vegas... might be a good reason to resign Trouba, to leave him exposed. No way they could turn down that opportunity... although we might have an issue with losing Comrie instead...
Believe Mason (though just 1 yr left) & Perrault need to be traded. Little may be our anchor to bare & will cause much angst.
Quote from: Jockitch on April 06, 2018, 01:03:45 AM
Believe Mason (though just 1 yr left) & Perrault need to be traded. Little may be our anchor to bare & will cause much angst.
Perrault will stay. Hes not a guy that wants payed more then hes worth.
We are into the Cap 55mil now for next year. The caps going to 80mill.
Conner and Laine dont need to be signed this year.
I bet guys like Wheeler and Stash sign deals to keep Cups close.
Quote from: Jockitch on April 06, 2018, 01:03:45 AM
Believe Mason (though just 1 yr left) & Perrault need to be traded. Little may be our anchor to bare & will cause much angst.
I'm on the fence with Perreault but why Mason? And who would back up Hellebuyck?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 06, 2018, 12:56:49 PM
I'm on the fence with Perreault but why Mason? And who would back up Hellebuyck?
Get some scrub and pay him $1 million a year to play 15 games. We don't need to be paying our backup goalie $4.2 million per year. There's lots of backups available who will gladly play for $1 million or less per season.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 06, 2018, 01:42:27 AM
Perrault will stay. Hes not a guy that wants payed more then hes worth.
It's more a matter of his current cap hit for another three years. That money could be spent elsewhere on another forward.
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I bet guys like Wheeler and Stash sign deals to keep Cups close.
Stastny? Yeah, I don't see him re-signing with the Jets.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 06, 2018, 01:26:03 PM
Get some scrub and pay him $1 million a year to play 15 games. We don't need to be paying our backup goalie $4.2 million per year. There's lots of backups available who will gladly play for $1 million or less per season.
While I agree on the bolded part, the entire premise hinges on the Jets being able to trade Mason. Is that realistic?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 06, 2018, 01:49:22 PM
It's more a matter of his current cap hit for another three years. That money could be spent elsewhere on another forward.
Stastny? Yeah, I don't see him re-signing with the Jets.
While I agree on the bolded part, the entire premise hinges on the Jets being able to trade Mason. Is that realistic?
Depends on the goaltender market this offseason and whether the Jets are willing to retain some of his salary.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 06, 2018, 01:52:11 PM
Depends on the goaltender market this offseason and whether the Jets are willing to retain some of his salary.
If you are going to retain salary, why not retain the player? If you trade him and retain salary, you end up with a $1mil goalie that you are paying $1mil plus whatever you retain, and you are getting a $1mil goalie. Keep him and you have Mason...
The only caveat would be is if that $1mil goalie was Comrie... but he seems to need another year in the A...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 06, 2018, 02:32:01 PM
If you are going to retain salary, why not retain the player? If you trade him and retain salary, you end up with a $1mil goalie that you are paying $1mil plus whatever you retain, and you are getting a $1mil goalie. Keep him and you have Mason...
The only caveat would be is if that $1mil goalie was Comrie... but he seems to need another year in the A...
Ya it depends on how much we'd need to retain. If we are only retaining $1 million of Mason's salary in a trade, and we find a backup and pay him $1 million, we are then saving $2 million overall.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 06, 2018, 02:39:11 PM
Ya it depends on how much we'd need to retain. If we are only retaining $1 million of Mason's salary in a trade, and we find a backup and pay him $1 million, we are then saving $2 million overall.
Which brings us back to the point of how much is Mason worth? Does anyone else think he's a starting goalie right now? Is there a team that will take a chance on him to start? That team would take his contract, sure, without any money retained by the Jets. But if they are trading for a vet backup, then they won;t be wanting to take him with us only retaining $1mil. They'd want to pay him backup salary, which means we will have to eat at least $2mil.
If it means going our and signing someone, lie a Hutch, for $1 mil, that means we are paying Hutch $3mil effectively, and would you rather have Hutch at an effective salary of $3mil or Mason at $4.2 mil...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 06, 2018, 03:37:51 PM
Which brings us back to the point of how much is Mason worth? Does anyone else think he's a starting goalie right now? Is there a team that will take a chance on him to start? That team would take his contract, sure, without any money retained by the Jets. But if they are trading for a vet backup, then they won;t be wanting to take him with us only retaining $1mil. They'd want to pay him backup salary, which means we will have to eat at least $2mil.
If it means going our and signing someone, lie a Hutch, for $1 mil, that means we are paying Hutch $3mil effectively, and would you rather have Hutch at an effective salary of $3mil or Mason at $4.2 mil...
All depends on the market this summer and whether there is a team willing to look at Mason as a potential starter. It wouldn't be shocking to see a team willing to give him $3 million for one year.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 06, 2018, 03:44:28 PM
All depends on the market this summer and whether there is a team willing to look at Mason as a potential starter. It wouldn't be shocking to see a team willing to give him $3 million for one year.
Many factors to consider. If salary is retained to move Mason, I can't see it being as low as 25%.
Here's a look at the FA market: https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2019/Sv/all/goalies (https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2019/Sv/all/goalies)
I can't see any of those UFAs signing for $1M this off-season, especially with the cap rumoured to rise to $80M.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 06, 2018, 04:23:42 PM
Many factors to consider. If salary is retained to move Mason, I can't see it being as low as 25%.
Here's a look at the FA market: https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2019/Sv/all/goalies (https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2019/Sv/all/goalies)
I can't see any of those UFAs signing for $1M this off-season, especially with the cap rumoured to rise to $80M.
I guess we have differences of opinion. I think several of those guys would be lucky to get ~$1 million.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 06, 2018, 04:32:36 PM
I guess we have differences of opinion. I think several of those guys would be lucky to get ~$1 million.
There are at least 10 that could be signed for <$1mil... whether they are worth it, remains to be seen.
I have no issues with keeping Mason if we're going to have to eat salary. Unless it is a sweet deal otherwise, or we can unload a contract (Perreault, Little) along with him...
You have to love Perreault and Little and what they've given to this team. But with the influx of young talent, and the need to sign them, the Business of Hockey may demand that they be traded / bought out.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 06, 2018, 04:41:09 PM
There are at least 10 that could be signed for <$1mil... whether they are worth it, remains to be seen.
I have no issues with keeping Mason if we're going to have to eat salary. Unless it is a sweet deal otherwise, or we can unload a contract (Perreault, Little) along with him...
You have to love Perreault and Little and what they've given to this team. But with the influx of young talent, and the need to sign them, the Business of Hockey may demand that they be traded / bought out.
Next year I think we are okay. It's the 2019-20 season where salaries will start to become a problem and where I think we will see guys like Buff, Perreault get traded, if we want to keep the young guys.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 06, 2018, 05:04:13 PM
Next year I think we are okay. It's the 2019-20 season where salaries will start to become a problem and where I think we will see guys like Buff, Perreault get traded, if we want to keep the young guys.
We will be in the territory of locking up guys long term like we did Ehlers this year, and signing them early is going to mean we need cap room...
Liane would be a huge early signing... and Connor, and Morissey...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 06, 2018, 05:37:13 PM
We will be in the territory of locking up guys long term like we did Ehlers this year, and signing them early is going to mean we need cap room...
Liane would be a huge early signing... and Connor, and Morissey...
I would sign Laine and Helle long term. Connor and Morrissey might be bridge deals. Trouba will also need a long term deal since he's already been bridged.
Coyotes sign G Raanta to 3-year extension worth $12.75 ($4.25M AAV): https://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-g-raanta-reach-3-year-extension-1.1048995 (https://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-g-raanta-reach-3-year-extension-1.1048995)
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 06, 2018, 05:55:50 PM
I would sign Laine and Helle long term. Connor and Morrissey might be bridge deals. Trouba will also need a long term deal since he's already been bridged.
you have very lil idea how this works
In your world tell me how all these other teams can pay core guys and why we cant?
Do you think True North is stupid? Dont you think they have gone over this a million times? Good grief man. Think they went over this as they built it?
Do you really think they got to a point that they have no idea how to keep guys?
This is not something slapped together. This is a team thats been built. Its been done over years. Contracts done to offset others.....
We have 55 mil cost.... We can go to 80.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 07, 2018, 04:39:39 AM
you have very lil idea how this works
In your world tell me how all these other teams can pay core guys and why we cant?
Do you think True North is stupid? Dont you think they have gone over this a million times? Good grief man. Think they went over this as they built it?
Do you really think they got to a point that they have no idea how to keep guys?
This is not something slapped together. This is a team thats been built. Its been done over years. Contracts done to offset others.....
We have 55 mil cost.... We can go to 80.
You have ill idea how this works. Of course they?ll keep the core guys they want to keep, but that means some guys will need to go. Guys like Perreault, Myers, Kulikov, Mason, Enstrom and maybe even Buff and Little. Can?t keep everyone, and of course I think Chevy has a plan.
Here?s how I see the guys we want to keep on non-bridge deals:
Laine: $10 million
Ehlers: $6 million (already signed and comes into effect next season)
Trouba: $6 million
Morrissey: $6 million
Connor: $6 million
Wheeler: $7.5 million (approx $2 mill raise from current deal)
Hellebuyck: $6 million
I?m not even factoring in eventual raises here for guys like Lowry, Roslovic, Copp, Armia, Poolman etc. It?s a simple fact we can?t keep everyone. The reason we have this window now is because we have so many talented guys who are producing at a high level on entry level contracts; Morrissey, Connor, Laine, Ehlers, Helle, are all playing for peanuts. Once that window closes in a couple years, some of the vets will need to go.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 07, 2018, 04:39:39 AM
you have very lil idea how this works
In your world tell me how all these other teams can pay core guys and why we cant?
Do you think True North is stupid? Dont you think they have gone over this a million times? Good grief man. Think they went over this as they built it?
Do you really think they got to a point that they have no idea how to keep guys?
This is not something slapped together. This is a team thats been built. Its been done over years. Contracts done to offset others.....
We have 55 mil cost.... We can go to 80.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=WIN
You are bout $15-20 mil shy on your current cap... depending on whose numbers you go by, we are at $70-75mil on our cap... and the cap is $75mil for this year.
For next year, we are at $54million. For the 14 players we have under current contract (plus 600k for Stewart).
Scheiffele - 6.125
Wheeler 5.6
Little 5.3
Perreault 4.125
Ehlers 6
Roslovic .9
Copp - 1
Connor .925
Laine .925
Buff 7.6
Myers 5.5
Kulikov 4.33
Chiarot 1.4
Mason 4.1
Which means we have $21 million to pay:
Stasny (or replacement)
Matthias (or replacement)
Armia
Dano
Petan
Tanev
Enstrom (or replacement)
Trouba
Poolman
Morrissey
Hellebuyck
Stasny, Mathias, Enstrom will probably be replaced by Appleton. Lemieux and Niku at about $1 mil each, so that leaves 18 mil for the rest...
Armia, Dano, Petan, Tanev, Poolman are all in the $1mil range as well. That leaves $14 mil for:
Trouba $6mil
Morissey $4mil
Hellebuyck $6mil
And that puts us $2 mil over the cap, assuming we can get all them at those numbers. Cap might go up $2mil, so we might be safe...
Not sure where your figures are coming from, but I think they may be passing hemorrhoids on their way...
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 07, 2018, 04:39:39 AM
you have very lil idea how this works
In your world tell me how all these other teams can pay core guys and why we cant?
Do you think True North is stupid? Dont you think they have gone over this a million times? Good grief man. Think they went over this as they built it?
Do you really think they got to a point that they have no idea how to keep guys?
This is not something slapped together. This is a team thats been built. Its been done over years. Contracts done to offset others.....
We have 55 mil cost.... We can go to 80.
Good teams lose good players to cap space issues, it isn't always a result of mismanagement and it's not the end of the world. Chicago lost guys like Ladd and Byfuglien among others and continued to dominate.
Quote from: Colton on April 08, 2018, 02:01:41 AM
Good teams lose good players to cap space issues, it isn't always a result of mismanagement and it's not the end of the world. Chicago lost guys like Ladd and Byfuglien among others and continued to dominate.
Well said.
Figured id post this here.......
https://www.bardown.com/a-new-movement-to-honour-the-humboldt-broncos-emerged-overnight-1.1050946
Quote from: theaardvark on April 07, 2018, 03:52:09 PM
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=WIN
You are bout $15-20 mil shy on your current cap... depending on whose numbers you go by, we are at $70-75mil on our cap... and the cap is $75mil for this year.
For next year, we are at $54million. For the 14 players we have under current contract (plus 600k for Stewart).
Scheiffele - 6.125
Wheeler 5.6
Little 5.3
Perreault 4.125
Ehlers 6
Roslovic .9
Copp - 1
Connor .925
Laine .925
Buff 7.6
Myers 5.5
Kulikov 4.33
Chiarot 1.4
Mason 4.1
Which means we have $21 million to pay:
Stasny (or replacement)
Matthias (or replacement)
Armia
Dano
Petan
Tanev
Enstrom (or replacement)
Trouba
Poolman
Morrissey
Hellebuyck
Stasny, Mathias, Enstrom will probably be replaced by Appleton. Lemieux and Niku at about $1 mil each, so that leaves 18 mil for the rest...
Armia, Dano, Petan, Tanev, Poolman are all in the $1mil range as well. That leaves $14 mil for:
Trouba $6mil
Morissey $4mil
Hellebuyck $6mil
And that puts us $2 mil over the cap, assuming we can get all them at those numbers. Cap might go up $2mil, so we might be safe...
Not sure where your figures are coming from, but I think they may be passing hemorrhoids on their way...
I said at cost meaning next year. Why would i care about now?
I said next year we are at around 55mil. Depending where u look we can go to 80. Our numbers are close.
I never said we will keep everyone. I said we will and can keep the core. One bad contract as some have said will make us lose a better long term player. Or a leader. Gbill said we might lose Wheeler.
Wont happen. We can buy it out if need be and not effect others.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 09, 2018, 10:42:04 PM
I said at cost meaning next year. Why would i care about now?
I said next year we are at around 55mil. Depending where u look we can go to 80. Our numbers are close.
I never said we will keep everyone. I said we will and can keep the core. One bad contract as some have said will make us lose a better long term player. Or a leader. Gbill said we might lose Wheeler.
Wont happen. We can buy it out if need be and not effect others.
Buyouts you still need to pay 2/3 of the contract over twice the remaining length...it's not free cap space.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 09, 2018, 10:50:20 PM
Buyouts you still need to pay 2/3 of the contract over twice the remaining length...it's not free cap space.
We wont lose Wheeler because of one bad contract.
I have no doubt we will lose some. Its not what im saying. Im not even worried about it.
A guy like Stash might be more intrested in a Cup then money. Guys have signed up long. He may want to stick around and see
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 09, 2018, 10:42:04 PM
I said at cost meaning next year. Why would i care about now?
I said next year we are at around 55mil. Depending where u look we can go to 80. Our numbers are close.
I never said we will keep everyone. I said we will and can keep the core. One bad contract as some have said will make us lose a better long term player. Or a leader. Gbill said we might lose Wheeler.
Wont happen. We can buy it out if need be and not effect others.
The big issue is that Laine is going to be needing a new contract before we lose any big deals off the roster. Myers, Mason and Wheeler are signed through 2019, Kulikov 2020, Perreault and Buff 2021. Not a lot of space coming available. Its a given we walk from Stasny, Enstrom and Mathias, but that just barely pays for Morrissey and Hellebuyck, and there is Trouba to sign. I still think that Trouba is going to be allowed to sign an offer sheet, if it is small enough, we'll match and maybe trade, big enough and we'll take the picks. He is a far more disposable piece than Morrissey...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 10, 2018, 04:09:44 AM
The big issue is that Laine is going to be needing a new contract before we lose any big deals off the roster. Myers, Mason and Wheeler are signed through 2019, Kulikov 2020, Perreault and Buff 2021. Not a lot of space coming available. Its a given we walk from Stasny, Enstrom and Mathias, but that just barely pays for Morrissey and Hellebuyck, and there is Trouba to sign. I still think that Trouba is going to be allowed to sign an offer sheet, if it is small enough, we'll match and maybe trade, big enough and we'll take the picks. He is a far more disposable piece than Morrissey...
Im not or never said wed not lose players.... we will. lm saying we will work in the people we need to.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 09, 2018, 11:11:57 PM
We wont lose Wheeler because of one bad contract.
I have no doubt we will lose some. Its not what im saying. Im not even worried about it.
A guy like Stash might be more intrested in a Cup then money. Guys have signed up long. He may want to stick around and see
No way we can afford Stasny. St. Louis will take him back at $6 mil+, we just don't have that in the coffers next year.
Its going to be hard enough to afford Morrissey and Hellebuyck, let alone Lowry and Trouba. A discounted Stasny would still be $5mil, and that would not be do-able, 44 and 37 are far more important.
@TSNRyanRishaug: SJHL will have conference call tomorrow, 12 community owned teams will be represented by 12 appointed Governors. A vote will be held on what to do with remainder of playoffs, majority rules. All options open for discussion by the group I'm told.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 10, 2018, 06:10:45 AM
No way we can afford Stasny. St. Louis will take him back at $6 mil+, we just don't have that in the coffers next year.
Its going to be hard enough to afford Morrissey and Hellebuyck, let alone Lowry and Trouba. A discounted Stasny would still be $5mil, and that would not be do-able, 44 and 37 are far more important.
I guess we will see.
Does Chevy have a ton of work to do?.... Yup
Will we lose a guy or 2? Yup.
But i read on here we could lose Wheeler because of Littles contract
Thats not going to happen.
Does Stash want a last huge contract? I have no clue.... non of us do.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 09, 2018, 08:12:57 PM
Figured id post this here.......
https://www.bardown.com/a-new-movement-to-honour-the-humboldt-broncos-emerged-overnight-1.1050946
Bombers to light stadium green & yellow for Humboldt BroncosWINNIPEG, MB., April 10, 2018 - The Winnipeg Blue Bombers will be lighting Investors Group Field green and yellow Thursday night to honour the members of the Humboldt Broncos junior hockey team that were involved in a tragic bus accident last Friday.
From players to coaches, staff and fans, the hearts of the entire Blue Bombers organization are with the community of Humboldt, Saskatchewan during this difficult time. The stadium will be lit in Broncos team colours from 8:30-9:30 p.m. Thursday evening in tribute to the players, staff and families affected.
"In light of this unimaginable tragedy, no words seem to suffice to clearly express our anguish and heartbreak for the community of Humboldt," said President & CEO, Wade Miller. "We stand in compassion with all those affected and wish them strength and comfort as they begin the healing process."
A large banner will also be in the Bomber Store from Thursday to Sunday for fans wishing to write a message to the community of Humboldt, and will be sent to the Broncos organization next week.
As always Pens are looking very good in the playoffs. As usual, they play just above average in the regular season and come alive in the playoffs. Crosby being his typical self last night with 3 goals. They could be SC favourites again.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 12, 2018, 02:32:23 PM
As always Pens are looking very good in the playoffs. As usual, they play just above average in the regular season and come alive in the playoffs. Crosby being his typical self last night with 3 goals. They could be SC favourites again.
Crosby is an insane talent...hard to dislike him. The Pens will likely go far - Philly will do better next game though.
I think last night was a demonstration of the situation of the east, which is a few elite teams vs a bunch of jabronis who made the playoffs because there needs to be 16 teams in.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 12, 2018, 04:34:54 PM
I think last night was a demonstration of the situation of the east, which is a few elite teams vs a bunch of jabronis who made the playoffs because there needs to be 16 teams in.
There was just 1 game in the East last night so not much to go off. I agree that Columbus, Jersey and Flyers probably wont do much, but Pittsburgh, TB, Capitals, Toronto and Boston are all legit contenders.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 12, 2018, 04:45:32 PM
There was just 1 game in the East last night so not much to go off. I agree that Columbus, Jersey and Flyers probably wont do much, but Pittsburgh, TB, Capitals, Toronto and Boston are all legit contenders.
Basically what I said.
I agree with your assessment, except I expect Boston to make Toronto look like they didn't deserve to make the playoffs at all.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 12, 2018, 06:55:47 PM
Basically what I said.
I agree with your assessment, except I expect Boston to make Toronto look like they didn't deserve to make the playoffs at all.
Ya, Toronto just isn't a top calibre team right now.
Marchand is a weirdo...
Quote from: The Zipp on April 13, 2018, 01:10:49 AM
Marchand is a weirdo...
Haha yeah.... trying to kiss Komarov! :D :D By far the Bruins MVP this year though.
So, spitting on a player is a suspension in most leagues, what does direct contact spitting call for?
Quote from: theaardvark on April 13, 2018, 03:46:41 PM
So, spitting on a player is a suspension in most leagues, what does direct contact spitting call for?
He licked him...I don't think he spit.
Quote from: theaardvark on April 13, 2018, 03:46:41 PM
So, spitting on a player is a suspension in most leagues, what does direct contact spitting call for?
He didnt spit
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 12, 2018, 07:09:21 PM
Ya, Toronto just isn't a top calibre team right now.
The Loafs are highly over rated, and if that team was in Calgary or Vancouver, nobody would be talking about them. They are over hyped by the HNIC media.
Classy move by Kadris too!! Then he tries to defend it. Brutal.
League got it right ...... Kadri deserved 3 games.
Certain players we can dislike, Kadri & his cheap shots over the years, has made him quite disliked by me. However he is important to the Leafs, so I say YAY.
Quote from: Jockitch on April 14, 2018, 07:07:28 PM
League got it right ...... Kadri deserved 3 games.
Certain players we can dislike, Kadri & his cheap shots over the years, has made him quite disliked by me. However he is important to the Leafs, so I say YAY.
Rogers won?t like this.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 13, 2018, 03:56:24 PM
He didnt spit
No, he applied the spit directly, instead of utilizing it as a projectile.
Always nice to see Anaheim getting a beat down! 8-1 loss to SJS. I?ve got to say, the Sharks are surprising me.
Preds lost last night, which is good. I was hoping the Leafs would get swept, but they won too.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 17, 2018, 11:35:08 AM
Always nice to see Anaheim getting a beat down! 8-1 loss to SJS. I?ve got to say, the Sharks are surprising me.
Ever since the trade deadline, they've been excellent. And honestly, piss on the Ducks. ;D
Exciting games last night. Loved seeing the Bolts and Predators lose.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 17, 2018, 11:35:08 AM
Always nice to see Anaheim getting a beat down! 8-1 loss to SJS. I?ve got to say, the Sharks are surprising me.
I guess Kane hasn't had a chance to infect the locker room yet, I guess... or maybe, just maybe, he's turned things around. I haven't heard any "moneyphone" incidents since he was traded, or any tantrums or dress code violations. Not sure it because there haven't been any, or that he just isn't relevant enough anymore to have them reported.
Anyway, the wife is going to wear her new "Copp" jersey today, still need a namebar for it though ;) . Anyone have a Chicago 88 jersey that needs a namebar?
Kings are out. Ducks are out. I did not expect a sweep in either series. Sharks will face the Knights in round 2. Should be a gooder!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 19, 2018, 02:03:48 PM
Kings are out. Ducks are out. I did not expect a sweep in either series. Sharks will face the Knights in round 2. Should be a gooder!
Shucks. I wanted us to sweep the Ducks in Round 3.
If San Jose and Winnipeg win the next series... it'd be a heck of a Story for the West Side of the league...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 19, 2018, 09:10:13 PM
If San Jose and Winnipeg win the next series... it'd be a heck of a Story for the West Side of the league...
Lol.....some people getting ahead pretty quick eh
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 19, 2018, 10:00:44 PM
Lol.....some people getting ahead pretty quick eh
(https://wondersinthedark.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/west-side-story-jets-vs-sharks.jpg)
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 19, 2018, 10:00:44 PM
Lol.....some people getting ahead pretty quick eh
Yeah, lets not get ahead of ourselves too fast. Beating the Wild were by no means a good measuring stick to judge how good we are in the playoffs. Wild were not a good team, and they were out 2 of their top players for a large part of the series.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 21, 2018, 02:26:45 PM
Yeah, lets not get ahead of ourselves too fast. Beating the Wild were by no means a good measuring stick to judge how good we are in the playoffs. Wild were not a good team, and they were out 2 of their top players for a large part of the series.
Not a good team? Im not so sure.
I think its more of how we played with so many young guys.
How many of our starters did we have out? Im pretty sure over the 5 games we had more starters out then they did.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 21, 2018, 02:56:59 PM
Not a good team? Im not so sure.
I think its more of how we played with so many young guys.
How many of our starters did we have out? Im pretty sure over the 5 games we had more starters out then they did.
I agree with you on that, my only point was, I do not think the Wild are a true testament to how well we are going to do the rest of the playoffs. If we play the Preds next, it is highly unlikely we can get 2 shutouts in a row, or win any games 5-0 like we did against the Wild.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 21, 2018, 03:36:42 PM
I agree with you on that, my only point was, I do not think the Wild are a true testament to how well we are going to do the rest of the playoffs. If we play the Preds next, it is highly unlikely we can get 2 shutouts in a row, or win any games 5-0 like we did against the Wild.
Oh for sure i agree.
The Preds are a different animal. Wont be easy.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 21, 2018, 03:43:21 PM
Oh for sure i agree.
The Preds are a different animal. Wont be easy.
Preds haven't won yet... but I'm not sure I'd want to face an Avalanche squad coming off a big win over the Preds over facing the Preds after they grind out a 7 game series win against Col...
Regardless, lets hope they go 7 tough, grueling games with a game 7 quintuple overtime...
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 21, 2018, 03:43:21 PM
Oh for sure i agree.
The Preds are a different animal. Wont be easy.
I almost see the Preds as our Stanley Cup. If we can beat the Preds, there isn't any other team that scares me in a 7 game series.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 21, 2018, 04:08:43 PM
I almost see the Preds as our Stanley Cup. If we can beat the Preds, there isn't any other team that scares me in a 7 game series.
I agree.
I think we can beat them. Even if i take off my Jet glasses and look at both teams fair. I still see the Jets as the more all around better team.
The leafs took out Boston during the season but are now getting their butts handed to them. Its a new thing when you have to play the same team night in n night out.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 21, 2018, 04:18:43 PM
I agree.
I think we can beat them. Even if i take off my Jet glasses and look at both teams fair. I still see the Jets as the more all around better team.
The leafs took out Boston during the season but are now getting their butts handed to them. Its a new thing when you have to play the same team night in n night out.
As always, the Penguins would scare me. Say what you want about them - they always deliver late in the playoffs.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 21, 2018, 04:33:44 PM
As always, the Penguins would scare me. Say what you want about them - they always deliver late in the playoffs.
Penguins Jets would make for a nice Stanley Cup Final.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 21, 2018, 04:35:51 PM
Penguins Jets would make for a nice Stanley Cup Final.
Yup
Round 2 in the West is set!
Now to see if the Capitals and Bruins can close out their respective series tonight.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 23, 2018, 01:49:05 PM
Round 2 in the West is set!
Now to see if the Capitals and Bruins can close out their respective series tonight.
Just some quick stats this year vs. Predators:
-Preds won season series 3-2
-Preds scored 22, Jets 19 in regulation
-Jets won 1 on the road and 1 at home. Preds won 2 at home and 1 on the road
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 23, 2018, 02:00:43 PM
Just some quick stats this year vs. Predators:
-Preds won season series 3-2
-Preds scored 22, Jets 19 in regulation
-Jets won 1 on the road and 1 at home. Preds won 2 at home and 1 on the road
And the Jets win at home was not against Rinne, it was against their backup goaltender.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 23, 2018, 02:34:03 PM
And the Jets win at home was not against Rinne, it was against their backup goaltender.
A positive side note as well, is that our win on the road was against Rinne, and we won 6-4 (scored 5 on Rinne) in that game.
Chuck Fletcher out as GM of the Wild: https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/minnesota-wild-will-not-renew-contract-gm-chuck-fletcher/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/minnesota-wild-will-not-renew-contract-gm-chuck-fletcher/)
Flames hire former Hurricanes' HC Bill Peters: https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/flames-hire-bill-peters-new-head-coach/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/flames-hire-bill-peters-new-head-coach/)
Leafs are about to force game 7. Bruins must be getting nervous.
Would be nice to have 2 Canadian teams advance.
Quote from: Chris1982 on April 24, 2018, 02:20:25 AM
Would be nice to have 2 Canadian teams advance.
I?d normally agree, but I really, really dislike the Leafs.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 24, 2018, 08:45:25 AM
I?d normally agree, but I really, really dislike the Leafs.
I wouldn't mind.
It's all about the Cup, and Boston is a tougher opponent than the Leafs. Knock 'em off early, I say.
Quote from: gbill2004 on April 24, 2018, 08:45:25 AM
I?d normally agree, but I really, really dislike the Leafs.
Agreed. Don?t like Boston sports teams either. Looks like Jets will be the lone canadian team. This is why game 7?s are nerve racking - one bad 5 hole goal and your season is done
I hate both .... But to end all the Leaf everything makes me happy.
Up 4-3 going into the third... Only to blow it and give up 4. Not as bad as 2013 but still pretty craptacular.
The Bruins look off. I can't see them doing much against a pretty stacked Lightning team.
Pens n Caps is a good game
Ugh Caps choking again blow a 2 goal lead in the 3rd!
Sickening
I have caps in my pool
*** Vegas..
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on April 27, 2018, 01:41:09 AM
Ugh Caps choking again blow a 2 goal lead in the 3rd!
Sickening
I have caps in my pool
Again i hate both so i dont care. I have a side bet with a Pens Fan.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 27, 2018, 01:10:36 AM
Pens n Caps is a good game
Same old same. Capitals go up 2-0 and then lose 3-2. :D
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 27, 2018, 02:40:49 AM
*** Vegas..
Absolute domination last night. :o
Any room on the Vegas bandwagon......my real jet team never even made the playoffs so now it's time to pick who to cheer for ...I'm thinking I'm gonna go with the Vegas knights, it would be cool to see an expansion team win it all in their first season, plus it's Vegas everyone likes Vegas.......other than that I want the penguins out, Crosby is a suck, I would like to see Ovechkin actually get further for once too. And If Boston did okay that wouldn't be bad as it's always nice to see an original 6 team doing well. But yeh, GO KNIGHTS !
Quote from: NorthernSkunk on April 29, 2018, 01:16:51 AM
Any room on the Vegas bandwagon......my real jet team never even made the playoffs so now it's time to pick who to cheer for ...I'm thinking I'm gonna go with the Vegas knights, it would be cool to see an expansion team win it all in their first season, plus it's Vegas everyone likes Vegas.......other than that I want the penguins out, Crosby is a suck, I would like to see Ovechkin actually get further for once too. And If Boston did okay that wouldn't be bad as it's always nice to see an original 6 team doing well. But yeh, GO KNIGHTS !
Your antagonistic posts sicken me. We have a real Jets team, they're up 1-0 in their series. Choose to cheer for whatever team your bent mind desires, but enough of slagging the local teams, either support them or zip it.
Quote from: dd on April 29, 2018, 01:51:33 AM
Your antagonistic posts sicken me. We have a real Jets team, they're up 1-0 in their series. Choose to cheer for whatever team your bent mind desires, but enough of slagging the local teams, either support them or zip it.
You are definitly not the boss of me lol.....and I am sure I did not miss anywhere in the rules that says you MUST support the Winnipeg teams. Choose to ignore me if you must, I don't care.
Why does Don Cherry still have a job ?
Officiating ruins another great game.
Both games yesterday were pretty good.
Yes they were. Some people just choose to whine over everything even though there is no basis to do so.
Quote from: dd on April 29, 2018, 04:45:35 PM
Yes they were. Some people just choose to whine over everything even though there is no basis to do so.
Yup. Kinda sad. Oh well.
I missed Cheery so im not sure what hes talking about.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 29, 2018, 03:25:19 PM
Both games yesterday were pretty good.
Agreed. The Bolts looked slow and sloppy and a feisty Bruins team took advantage. The Knights-Sharks game was crazy good, too.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on April 29, 2018, 04:50:43 PM
Yup. Kinda sad. Oh well.
I missed Cheery so im not sure what hes talking about.
Cherry is generally incoherent. I?m also not sure why he?s still on tv.
Lamoriello won't return as Leafs GM: https://www.tsn.ca/lamoriello-will-not-return-as-leafs-gm-1.1072178 (https://www.tsn.ca/lamoriello-will-not-return-as-leafs-gm-1.1072178)
Capitals' F Wilson suspended three games: https://www.tsn.ca/wilson-suspended-three-games-for-hit-on-aston-reese-1.1073930 (https://www.tsn.ca/wilson-suspended-three-games-for-hit-on-aston-reese-1.1073930)
Stars appear to have found replacement for Hitchcock: https://www.tsn.ca/stars-to-hire-montgomery-as-head-coach-1.1074304 (https://www.tsn.ca/stars-to-hire-montgomery-as-head-coach-1.1074304)
Kane, reportedly 7 yrs at 7Mil per... thanks San Jose for throwing a wrench in everyone's cap...
GM's will be using the term "outlier" a lot in reference to Kane...
Quote from: dd on May 23, 2018, 04:59:36 AM
OMG, seriously?!?
The GM should be admitted into a substance abuse program immediately, this is serious!!!
The Sharks need scoring, Kane played very well for us before his injury, and barring a Tavares signing they have a lot of cap space. I've got no problem locking down Kane at 7M.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 23, 2018, 04:19:31 AM
Kane, reportedly 7 yrs at 7Mil per... thanks San Jose for throwing a wrench in everyone's cap...
GM's will be using the term "outlier" a lot in reference to Kane...
Seems high for Kane.
Here are some random Jets AAV comparables: Schiefele is $6.125M. Ehlers is $6M. Wheeler is $5.6M
Some others: Stamkos is $8.5M, Marchessault is $5M, Tarasenko is $7.5M
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 23, 2018, 02:54:44 PM
Seems high for Kane.
Here are some random Jets AAV comparables: Schiefele is $6.125M. Ehlers is $6M. Wheeler is $5.6M
Some others: Stamkos is $8.5M, Marchessault is $5M, Tarasenko is $7.5M
Those aren't really the most fair comparables. Scheifele, Ehlers, Wheeler, and Tarasenko were all RFA's that had been playing in their cities for years (3 of the 4 drafted by the club they resigned with). Stamkos definitely took a discount to resign with the team that drafted him as well in order to keep the team competitive.
Marchessault had a season and a half under his belt as an established NHLer when he signed his deal. He signed it midway through this current season, and his previous stat totals were:
30G/21A=51P in 75G
7G/11A=18P in 45G
1G/0A=1P in 2G
0G/0A=0P in 2G
Kane was on pace with the Sharks to score about the same amount of goals in an 82 game season as Marchessault had career goals scored at the time of his 5M contract signing.
Kane has 26 games under his belt as a Shark. There was no loyalty at play there that would lead to any kind of discount and the cap is going to increase significantly. The fair comparables are the contracts you are going to see signed in July.
Regardless, for 7M, I would ask who else is available that the Sharks could acquire to fill the offensive role Kane is going fill.
Of current contracts, Bobby Ryan or Ryan Kesler would be closer to fair comparisons in my own opinion. Even then those were signed under a smaller cap though
Quote from: Colton on May 23, 2018, 04:11:00 PM
Those aren't really the most fair comparables. Scheifele, Ehlers, Wheeler, and Tarasenko were all RFA's that had been playing in their cities for years (3 of the 4 drafted by the club they resigned with). Stamkos definitely took a discount to resign with the team that drafted him as well in order to keep the team competitive.
Marchessault had a season and a half under his belt as an established NHLer when he signed his deal. He signed it midway through this current season, and his previous stat totals were:
30G/21A=51P in 75G
7G/11A=18P in 45G
1G/0A=1P in 2G
0G/0A=0P in 2G
Kane was on pace with the Sharks to score about the same amount of goals in an 82 game season as Marchessault had career goals scored at the time of his 5M contract signing.
Kane has 26 games under his belt as a Shark. There was no loyalty at play there that would lead to any kind of discount and the cap is going to increase significantly. The fair comparables are the contracts you are going to see signed in July.
Regardless, for 7M, I would ask who else is available that the Sharks could acquire to fill the offensive role Kane is going fill.
Good analysis. Plus the FA market for top wingers this off season is limited. Plus Kane is only 26 years old so the risk level is lower compared to guys last year like Ladd and Backes etc.
Quote from: Colton on May 23, 2018, 04:11:00 PM
Those aren't really the most fair comparables. Scheifele, Ehlers, Wheeler, and Tarasenko were all RFA's that had been playing in their cities for years (3 of the 4 drafted by the club they resigned with). Stamkos definitely took a discount to resign with the team that drafted him as well in order to keep the team competitive.
Marchessault had a season and a half under his belt as an established NHLer when he signed his deal. He signed it midway through this current season, and his previous stat totals were:
30G/21A=51P in 75G
7G/11A=18P in 45G
1G/0A=1P in 2G
0G/0A=0P in 2G
Kane was on pace with the Sharks to score about the same amount of goals in an 82 game season as Marchessault had career goals scored at the time of his 5M contract signing.
Kane has 26 games under his belt as a Shark. There was no loyalty at play there that would lead to any kind of discount and the cap is going to increase significantly. The fair comparables are the contracts you are going to see signed in July.
Regardless, for 7M, I would ask who else is available that the Sharks could acquire to fill the offensive role Kane is going fill.
Of current contracts, Bobby Ryan or Ryan Kesler would be closer to fair comparisons in my own opinion. Even then those were signed under a smaller cap though
Sure -- but the sample size is really low and Kane hasn't been a good fit in Winnipeg or Buffalo. It should be noted that it started off fine in both places. You're right that maybe my examples weren't the exact same situation however they do give you a sense of what you can get for that type of money in the NHL. Kane has only been above 50 points once ((in 11-12) which would have put him 82 in the NHL tied with Kyle Conner, Seth Jones and Thomas Vanek this year) and he's only played more than 70 games in a season twice (73 and 74 in 2010-11, 2011-12). You're probably right that he's one of the best option available and that 7M was going to be what it took, but I wouldn't be enthused. He'll be 27 in two months so that takes him to 34. If the Sharks were my team, I'd be pretty nervous about that deal.
I know the sample size with the Sharks was small, but his possession metrics (corsi and fenwick) were career highs, his PDO tied his second best career mark, as well as his GPG and PPG averages being career highs.
Evander Kane never got off to a start with either the Thrashers, the Jets, or the Sabres like he did with the Sharks at the trade deadline.
The cap hit, while high, is the cost of doing business. The Sharks need a winger of his calibre.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 23, 2018, 06:35:10 PM
Sure -- but the sample size is really low and Kane hasn't been a good fit in Winnipeg or Buffalo. It should be noted that it started off fine in both places. You're right that maybe my examples weren't the exact same situation however they do give you a sense of what you can get for that type of money in the NHL. Kane has only been above 50 points once ((in 11-12) which would have put him 82 in the NHL tied with Kyle Conner, Seth Jones and Thomas Vanek this year) and he's only played more than 70 games in a season twice (73 and 74 in 2010-11, 2011-12). You're probably right that he's one of the best option available and that 7M was going to be what it took, but I wouldn't be enthused. He'll be 27 in two months so that takes him to 34. If the Sharks were my team, I'd be pretty nervous about that deal.
I wasn't really trying to predict him to play that way over the course of a season, more so just trying to illustrate that Marchessault is a bit of an outlier to be compared to. It's not often a player goes from a $750,000 non entry level contract, to a $5,000,000 one.
I'm thinking Kane at $5mil is overpaying... based on his previous performance. If you are basing on potential, maybe... but the comparables just don't come close... he is so far behind any other $7mil player, never mind 7 years... will the cap go up so much that he ends up being good value at the end of it? Not likely... he probably won't play to the end of the deal.
8% of a teams total cap space tied up in Kane just does not make sense...
Quote from: Colton on May 23, 2018, 08:19:10 PM
I wasn't really trying to predict him to play that way over the course of a season, more so just trying to illustrate that Marchessault is a bit of an outlier to be compared to. It's not often a player goes from a $750,000 non entry level contract, to a $5,000,000 one.
Ya, that's fair for sure. Good point.
OVI!!!!
OVI!!!!
All in on ovi hoisting the cup!!
Two impressive games by the Capitals to win the ECF and make their first SCF appearance in 20 years. Outshot the Bolts 7-0 in games 6 and 7... Crazy.
Did anyone predict this SCF matchup back in early October? LOL :D
I'm excited for Ovi
I?d like to see Ovie win but the Knights will be fully rested, again!
Knights in 6
But I hope not.
Kane's new contract with SJ is official: https://www.tsn.ca/kane-signs-7-year-49m-deal-with-sharks-1.1093949 (https://www.tsn.ca/kane-signs-7-year-49m-deal-with-sharks-1.1093949)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 24, 2018, 08:31:16 PM
Kane's new contract with SJ is official: https://www.tsn.ca/kane-signs-7-year-49m-deal-with-sharks-1.1093949 (https://www.tsn.ca/kane-signs-7-year-49m-deal-with-sharks-1.1093949)
Sick or sickening not quite sure.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 24, 2018, 08:45:24 PM
Sick or sickening not quite sure.
Like most salaries paid to play the game.
I wonder what the end numbers were. I've heard a sliding scale starting at 9mil first year, and descending from then... and also a $12mil up front with a weird array of numbers for the rest of the term, including $3mil for the CBA /lockout year.
Regardless, it is $7mil AAV for the cap. Good luck SJ in fleshing out a team around that... with every player signing using Kane's $7mil AAV as a benchmark...
Quote from: theaardvark on May 25, 2018, 03:22:15 PM
I wonder what the end numbers were. I've heard a sliding scale starting at 9mil first year, and descending from then... and also a $12mil up front with a weird array of numbers for the rest of the term, including $3mil for the CBA /lockout year.
Regardless, it is $7mil AAV for the cap. Good luck SJ in fleshing out a team around that... with every player signing using Kane's $7mil AAV as a benchmark...
Kane might be a dick but hes also a really good Hockey player.
He played pretty good in SJ and might be worth it to them.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on May 26, 2018, 03:47:17 AM
Kane might be a dick but hes also a really good Hockey player.
He played pretty good in SJ and might be worth it to them.
it might be 1-1.5 mil high per year but that club needs with a capital N scoring.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 26, 2018, 07:37:17 PM
it might be 1-1.5 mil high per year but that club needs with a capital N scoring.
scoriNg? I don't get it...
Quote from: theaardvark on May 27, 2018, 01:44:36 AM
scoriNg? I don't get it...
Good it?s not intended for you to get.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 25, 2018, 03:22:15 PM
I wonder what the end numbers were. I've heard a sliding scale starting at 9mil first year, and descending from then... and also a $12mil up front with a weird array of numbers for the rest of the term, including $3mil for the CBA /lockout year.
Regardless, it is $7mil AAV for the cap. Good luck SJ in fleshing out a team around that... with every player signing using Kane's $7mil AAV as a benchmark...
Funny that a fan of a team that is almost assuredly going to lose a good player due to the cap is questioning the cap situation of a team that is making a heavy play for Tavares
More fuel on the tire fire in Ottawa: http://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ottawa-senators/former-senators-captain-daniel-alfredsson-we-hope-to-get-a-new-owner (http://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ottawa-senators/former-senators-captain-daniel-alfredsson-we-hope-to-get-a-new-owner)
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Former Ottawa Senators captain Daniel Alfredsson opened up a can of worms with Ottawa Senators owner Eugene Melnyk while helping kick off Mayor Jim Watson's re-election campaign
"We hope to get a new owner," Alfredsson said...
Alfredsson's words are shared by countless Senators fans, who have become increasingly frustrated by Melnyk's management policies, including a shrinking front-office and the fact that a string of star players - including Alfredsson - have left the organization in the past few years under tense circumstances.
anyone else here the blurb this morn on 1290 Radio that there are rumours about P.K. Subban's days in Nashville being numbered.
Something about his "act" has run it's course with Poile & the teammates.
Quote from: Jockitch on May 29, 2018, 12:39:25 AM
anyone else here the blurb this morn on 1290 Radio that there are rumours about P.K. Subban's days in Nashville being numbered.
Something about his "act" has run it's course with Poile & the teammates.
I didn?t hear it, but if it was Westwood, I wouldn?t put much stock in it. He really has it in for Subban.
Success story in Vegas should boost salary cap for next season: https://www.tsn.ca/golden-knights-success-to-help-push-salary-cap-to-78-82m-next-season-1.1097245 (https://www.tsn.ca/golden-knights-success-to-help-push-salary-cap-to-78-82m-next-season-1.1097245)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 29, 2018, 04:46:52 PM
Success story in Vegas should boost salary cap for next season: https://www.tsn.ca/golden-knights-success-to-help-push-salary-cap-to-78-82m-next-season-1.1097245 (https://www.tsn.ca/golden-knights-success-to-help-push-salary-cap-to-78-82m-next-season-1.1097245)
Can players include bonuses in their contracts based on how much the cap increases? Like a COLA raise?
Or are they locked in regardless what the cap is? Because a $4 mil hike might be just what we need to squeeze as many players as we can under the cap, unless that increase is already partially spent...
Quote from: Jesse on May 29, 2018, 01:40:46 AM
I didn?t hear it, but if it was Westwood, I wouldn?t put much stock in it. He really has it in for Subban.
I've heard the same rumour from Friedman. Apparently his teammates are getting sick and tired of his act, and it causes problems in the locker room. He's worn out his welcome, and the talent isn't worth it.
Subban paid too much . He hasn?t helped them get anywhere. I think they realize 8 million might be too much but I think they are stuck with his contract.
Quote from: buckzumhoff on June 01, 2018, 02:29:44 AM
Subban paid too much . He hasn?t helped them get anywhere. I think they realize 8 million might be too much but I think they are stuck with his contract.
First time to the finals last year. I know we eliminated them this year but getting the presidents trophy isn't something to shake your stick at either.
Kovalchuk says winning is the top priority in returning to the NHL: https://www.tsn.ca/talent/dreger-report-kovalchuk-says-winning-the-priority-in-nhl-return-1.1100940 (https://www.tsn.ca/talent/dreger-report-kovalchuk-says-winning-the-priority-in-nhl-return-1.1100940)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 01, 2018, 06:02:08 PM
Kovalchuk says winning is the top priority in returning to the NHL: https://www.tsn.ca/talent/dreger-report-kovalchuk-says-winning-the-priority-in-nhl-return-1.1100940 (https://www.tsn.ca/talent/dreger-report-kovalchuk-says-winning-the-priority-in-nhl-return-1.1100940)
Maybe he signs in Vegas. Most contending teams don't have a lot of cap space.
Kovalchuk and winning is his priority? Next one will be datsyuk . They can?t win when the other countries have their best players. They left and were poor sports . Let them stay where they are.
Quote from: buckzumhoff on June 01, 2018, 09:37:04 PM
Kovalchuk and winning is his priority? Next one will be datsyuk . They can?t win when the other countries have their best players. They left and were poor sports . Let them stay where they are.
LOL :D
Datsuyk isn't coming back to the NHL. He'll be 40 years old next month. And the fact you're lumping him in with Kovalchuk really shows your ignorance.
Coyotes and D Ekman-Larsson verbally agree to 8-year, $64M extension: https://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-oel-agree-verbally-on-extension-1.1110201 (https://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-oel-agree-verbally-on-extension-1.1110201)
Quote from: buckzumhoff on June 01, 2018, 09:37:04 PM
Kovalchuk and winning is his priority? Next one will be datsyuk . They can?t win when the other countries have their best players. They left and were poor sports . Let them stay where they are.
Apparently he can't skate well anymore. Button hates him.
He has not been in the league for 6 years. Whom ever signs him is not making the playoffs.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 12, 2018, 05:23:44 PM
Coyotes and D Ekman-Larsson verbally agree to 8-year, $64M extension: https://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-oel-agree-verbally-on-extension-1.1110201 (https://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-oel-agree-verbally-on-extension-1.1110201)
Ugh does effect Trouba's potential deal?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 12, 2018, 05:26:13 PM
Ugh does effect Trouba's potential deal?
Hard to say. I can't imagine Trouba signing for that term or money, though.
Just read on TSN page ........ Senator"s E. Karlsson/wife filed an order of protection siting harassment from teammate Hoffman's GF
https://www.tsn.ca/karlsson-s-wife-alleges-hoffman-s-fiancee-conducted-campaign-of-harassment-1.1110744
Guessing someone's going to be traded
Quote from: Jockitch on June 12, 2018, 09:22:13 PM
Just read on TSN page ........ Senator"s E. Karlsson/wife filed an order of protection siting harassment from teammate Hoffman's GF
https://www.tsn.ca/karlsson-s-wife-alleges-hoffman-s-fiancee-conducted-campaign-of-harassment-1.1110744
Guessing someone's going to be traded
That whole situation is messed up! Some of the other wives have tweeted support for Karlsson?s wife and seem to confirm that this happened. If confirmed to be true, Hoffman?s girlfriend is scarily nuts.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on June 13, 2018, 03:49:21 AM
That whole situation is messed up! Some of the other wives have tweeted support for Karlsson?s wife and seem to confirm that this happened. If confirmed to be true, Hoffman?s girlfriend is scarily nuts.
Online harassment via burner accounts. Definitely batcrap crazy.
The Ottawa Senators are a mess.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 13, 2018, 01:43:21 PM
Online harassment via burner accounts. Definitely batcrap crazy.
The Ottawa Senators are a mess.
Hoffman might want to re-consider proceeding with that marriage :o
Quote from: gbill2004 on June 13, 2018, 04:42:40 PM
Hoffman might want to re-consider proceeding with that marriage :o
Agreed. He should know his fianc? well enough by now. But he stated yesterday the claims by the Karlssons are "150% false," so who knows. Love is blind. Then again, so is stupidity and Hoffman doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed.
IIRC, it was he who made the comment back in February about nobody wanting to play in Winnipeg (when the Jets were trying to acquire Brassard). He sounds like a bit of a mouthy jerk himself, so perhaps he and his fianc? are made for each other.
So Ottawa gets rid of a true sniper in Hoffman (we all have heard the sad story he's presently linked to) to San Jose for a minor deal.
The Sharks are able to get rid of a horrible contract, 4.M thru 2019-20, and the under producing Mikkel Boedker.
Then ...... the Sharks are able to flip him & a draft slot to the Panthers for a 4th & 5th Rd slot in this years draft & a 2nd pick in the following season.
Well done Sharks ...... crossing fingers that Hoffman (not proven guilty by association yet) can produce for the Panthers.
Austin Watson charged with domestic assault and released after posting bail.
Wonder if Cherry still loves this guy so much?
Lol, Jeff Hamilton the only reporter to have his award voting nullified due to incompetence
Quote from: Colton on June 21, 2018, 06:21:27 PM
Lol, Jeff Hamilton the only reporter to have his award voting nullified due to incompetence
Says he submitted an "ineligible trophy vote".
Crazy few days in the NHL. Hoffman gets traded and traded again, Trotz resigns and joins the Islanders, Canes and Flames swap players, Kovalchuk signs in LA... And July 1 is a week out!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 24, 2018, 04:19:05 PM
Crazy few days in the NHL. Hoffman gets traded and traded again, Trotz resigns and joins the Islanders, Canes and Flames swap players, Kovalchuk signs in LA... And July 1 is a week out!
JT in TO if you have not heard, lol.
How do teams have multiple players making over $10 mil?
It is crazy that we are having cap issues when Buff is our highest paid player...
Looks like we are going to end up as a team of a lot of guys making around $6mil a year, all contributing, instead of a couple guys making $10mil+, and ductaping the rest together...
Still lots of signing to do, Helle, Troiuba, Liane, Morrissey, Wheeler, Connor.. so happy to have Ehlers and Scheifele signed long term.
James Neal signs with Calgary 5 years I believe.
Fitting.
Hockey Central @HockeyCentraI
NHL Shop throwing shade 🤔😂
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randy turner @randyturner15
Ppl criticizing Phoenix for taking on the contracts of Marian Hossa, Chris Pronger and Pavel Datsyuk are going to look pretty stupid when the Coyotes win the 2008 Stanley Cup.
2008 Stanley ........pfft on Turner
Habs sign Armia to 1-year, $1.85M deal: https://www.tsn.ca/armia-signs-one-year-deal-with-canadiens-1.1138340 (https://www.tsn.ca/armia-signs-one-year-deal-with-canadiens-1.1138340)
Nice contract.
Golden Knights have reportedly re-signed G Fleury to a 3-year deal worth $21M.
Updated with link: https://www.tsn.ca/golden-knights-sign-g-fleury-to-three-year-extension-1.1138400 (https://www.tsn.ca/golden-knights-sign-g-fleury-to-three-year-extension-1.1138400)
good for Armia
Ray Emery found dead today after drowning in Hamilton.
RIP
accident ?? Unfortunate, regardless of why he drowned. RIP
Quote from: Jockitch on July 16, 2018, 03:29:42 AM
accident ?? Unfortunate, regardless of why he drowned. RIP
Yes, police are calling it a case of "misadventure".
Very sad news, I will always remember him for the Sens cup run in 2007 and his epic goalie fights.
Wild re-sign D Dumba to 5-year, $30M contract: https://www.tsn.ca/wild-sign-dumba-to-five-year-contract-1.1144648 (https://www.tsn.ca/wild-sign-dumba-to-five-year-contract-1.1144648)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 21, 2018, 03:37:52 PM
Wild re-sign D Dumba to 5-year, $30M contract: https://www.tsn.ca/wild-sign-dumba-to-five-year-contract-1.1144648 (https://www.tsn.ca/wild-sign-dumba-to-five-year-contract-1.1144648)
Why can?t Trouba sign a deal like That?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 21, 2018, 05:03:24 PM
Why can?t Trouba sign a deal like That?
He either thinks he's worth more or his agent is feeding him horse turds about his value... Or both.
Whatever the case, this is looking worse and worse with each passing day.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 21, 2018, 06:07:37 PM
He either think he's worth more or his agent is feeding him horse turds about his value... Or both.
no doubt
I would say he is worth 5 - 6 million is what he is worth. If he what's anymore then that trade him.
Apparently Chevy offered Trouba $6.25 million AAV over a long term deal.
Pacioretty to the Knights: https://www.tsn.ca/canadiens-trade-pacioretty-to-golden-knights-1.1170348 (https://www.tsn.ca/canadiens-trade-pacioretty-to-golden-knights-1.1170348)
Quote
The Vegas Golden Knights acquired the All-Star forward from the Montreal Canadiens on Sunday night for Tomas Tatar, prospect Nick Suzuki and the Columbus Blue Jackets' 2019 second-round pick.
The Canadiens retained 10 per cent of Pacioretty's $4.5 million cap hit for this season in the deal, while the Golden Knights retained 9.43 per cent of Tatar's $5.3 million salary through 2020-21.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 10, 2018, 01:59:12 PM
Pacioretty to the Knights: https://www.tsn.ca/canadiens-trade-pacioretty-to-golden-knights-1.1170348 (https://www.tsn.ca/canadiens-trade-pacioretty-to-golden-knights-1.1170348)
That's a pretty bad trading on Vegas part if you factor in what they gave up for Tatar to begin with lol
Yzerman steps down as Bolts' GM: https://www.tsn.ca/yzerman-steps-down-as-bolts-gm-brisebois-takes-over-1.1171171 (https://www.tsn.ca/yzerman-steps-down-as-bolts-gm-brisebois-takes-over-1.1171171)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 11, 2018, 06:20:57 PM
Yzerman steps down as Bolts' GM: https://www.tsn.ca/yzerman-steps-down-as-bolts-gm-brisebois-takes-over-1.1171171 (https://www.tsn.ca/yzerman-steps-down-as-bolts-gm-brisebois-takes-over-1.1171171)
strange
Strange indeed .......... meanwhile his beloved Detroit is a mess & needs guidance & apparently his upbringing ties in with the Sens area ........ stay tuned.
Quote from: Jockitch on September 12, 2018, 02:04:51 AM
Strange indeed .......... meanwhile his beloved Detroit is a mess & needs guidance & apparently his upbringing ties in with the Sens area ........ stay tuned.
my gutt tells me he is done.
I love you Doug Wilson
randy turner@randyturner15
Trade analysis: The Sharks got a two-time Norris winner. The Senators got a guy named Norris. That's about all you need to know.
Quote from: Colton on September 13, 2018, 06:47:33 PM
I love you Doug Wilson
Amazing acquisition for the Sharks.
Sharks definitely climbed up the preseason NHL Power Rankings
Nightmare warning...
Google "Gritty Flyers new mascot" or click here...
you were warned
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2018/09/24/nhl-flyers-gritty-new-mascot.html (https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2018/09/24/nhl-flyers-gritty-new-mascot.html)
Quote from: The Zipp on September 24, 2018, 03:58:17 PM
Nightmare warning...
Google "Gritty Flyers new mascot" or click here...
you were warned
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2018/09/24/nhl-flyers-gritty-new-mascot.html (https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2018/09/24/nhl-flyers-gritty-new-mascot.html)
Makes total sense: the Flyers have a scary reputation, so their mascot might as well scare children.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 24, 2018, 03:58:17 PM
Nightmare warning...
Google "Gritty Flyers new mascot" or click here...
you were warned
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2018/09/24/nhl-flyers-gritty-new-mascot.html (https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2018/09/24/nhl-flyers-gritty-new-mascot.html)
LOL gritty! What a name. If I were 7 I wold be scared of that thing. Giant hairy Muppet. Animals older brother?
Someone's gonna get canned over that monstrosity.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 24, 2018, 11:01:39 PM
Someone's gonna get canned over that monstrosity.
Pretty sure it being a monstrosity is the entire point. With the amount of publicity it's gotten, someone is probably getting a raise.
Quote from: Colton on September 25, 2018, 08:12:03 AM
Pretty sure it being a monstrosity is the entire point. With the amount of publicity it's gotten, someone is probably getting a raise.
I guess if bad publicity is good, sure. It's a horrifying mascot.
It?s an awesome mascot. Wish the Jets would do something like that. Mick E Moose is lame.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 25, 2018, 08:59:41 PM
It?s an awesome mascot. Wish the Jets would do something like that. Mick E Moose is lame.
Yeah i'm not a fan of the Moose, I liked Benny back in the day was fun to see the old costume back out for a few games the last couple years.
Making a hideous mascot on purpose that goes viral is brilliant. Making one that is hideous unintentionally is a cannable offence. Not pointing fingers, Bella...
2018-19 predictions via Money Puck: http://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm (http://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm)
Carolina won the jersey war
https://twitter.com/NHLCanes/status/1045372518960427008
What a fantastic move! Just a gorgeous jersey and a wonderful nod to the franchise's history.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 27, 2018, 07:59:17 PM
What a fantastic move! Just a gorgeous jersey and a wonderful nod to the franchise's history.
lol yeah it almost makes me want to cheer for the canes
Haha - green whalers jersey. There's going to a lot of confused Hurricane fans. Or maybe not, but you know, the fans that they do have will probably be confused.
They look like the Riders booo lol
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 27, 2018, 07:59:17 PM
What a fantastic move! Just a gorgeous jersey and a wonderful nod to the franchise's history.
Lol This good and The Jets new is bad?
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on September 29, 2018, 07:51:59 AM
Lol This good and The Jets new is bad?
Yup, the Hartford Whalers jersey is really nice.
The Jets Aviator jersey doesn't do it for me. The word crest is the only thing I like. Had TNSE gone with a 90s retro design, I'd have been on board.
Uh, what?
https://twitter.com/WatchStadium/status/1049827604478361600 (https://twitter.com/WatchStadium/status/1049827604478361600)
LOL
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 10, 2018, 02:10:27 AM
Uh, what?
https://twitter.com/WatchStadium/status/1049827604478361600 (https://twitter.com/WatchStadium/status/1049827604478361600)
LOL
didnt the knights win the west?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 10, 2018, 03:40:12 AM
didnt the knights win the west?
Nah preds fished 1st in the west (actually first in the league) after the regular season which their banner indicates. I just don't know how often teams actually raise a banner for that tho lol. If anything they should be raising a banner for winning the presidents trophy, but nobody really cares if you lost in the second round of the playoffs.
Quote from: bluengold204 on October 10, 2018, 01:57:03 PM
Nah preds fished 1st in the west (actually first in the league) after the regular season which their banner indicates. I just don't know how often teams actually raise a banner for that tho lol. If anything they should be raising a banner for winning the presidents trophy, but nobody really cares if you lost in the second round of the playoffs.
I dunno, I?d say that?s a big accomplishment. Dying for the Jets 2.0 to get a banner in the rafters.
Quote from: bluengold204 on October 10, 2018, 01:57:03 PM
Nah preds fished 1st in the west (actually first in the league) after the regular season which their banner indicates. I just don't know how often teams actually raise a banner for that tho lol. If anything they should be raising a banner for winning the presidents trophy, but nobody really cares if you lost in the second round of the playoffs.
Apparently, a number of teams have raised Regular Season Conference Champions banners. That seems corny to me, though.
The Predators raised two other banners last night: division champs, Presidents Trophy.
A lot of fanfare for getting bounced in the second round, only to get shut out by the Flames. :D
Quote from: blue_or_die on October 10, 2018, 02:04:25 PM
I dunno, I?d say that?s a big accomplishment. Dying for the Jets 2.0 to get a banner in the rafters.
Same here. Just not one that says "Regular Season Western Conference Champions" on it. ;)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 10, 2018, 06:04:26 PM
Same here. Just not one that says "Regular Season Western Conference Champions" on it. ;)
Lol, not a championship banner but hey, I?d take a Prez trophy banner. Guess I have the classic Winnipeg sports fan mentality lol. ?Good enough!?
Quote from: blue_or_die on October 11, 2018, 12:04:58 AM
Lol, not a championship banner but hey, I?d take a Prez trophy banner. Guess I have the classic Winnipeg sports fan mentality lol. ?Good enough!?
A Presidents Trophy banner is worth raising, IMO. But without the fanfare.
Unless it's a Stanley Cup banner, don't drag it out. Just my two pennies, anyway.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 11, 2018, 03:42:53 AM
A Presidents Trophy banner is worth raising, IMO. But without the fanfare.
Unless it's a Stanley Cup banner, don't drag it out. Just my two pennies, anyway.
I misunderstood. I now see that the OP meant ?banner raising? as in a ceremonious fashion whereas my comment was said under the impression that it was literally raising a banner to the rafters.
So yes, a ceremonious raising of a Presidents Trophy banner is over the top, but actually hanging it in the rafters is not. LOL.
Interesting read...
TORONTO, ON ? Despite winning 7 out of 10 games so far this hockey season, Toronto Maple Leafs Head Coach Mike Babcock reassured fans that the team?s impressive performance will not impact their ability to lose the playoffs.
?Obviously no one was as surprised as me when we hit that five game winning streak,? said Babcock at a press conference. ?And this was while the other teams were trying to win, which is usually our kryptonite. But you have my word that we will lose spectacularly the moment these games start to matter.?
Babcock went on to clarify his unique responsibilities as the coach of the most disappointing team in hockey. ?The Leafs have a proud tradition of letting down their loyal fans, and I take that legacy seriously. For many years we were second only to the Chicago Cubs in terms of teams that draw tantalizingly close to any sort of meaningful achievement, then **** it up. And now that they?ve won the World Series, it?s down to us.?
?I won?t let 50 years of tradition go up in smoke over something so arbitrary as a dedicated, talented team,? he added.
Local Leafs fan Jim Becker was relieved to hear that the Leafs are committed to a lacklustre season, pointing out that he uses the team?s early and brutal elimination from playoffs as an excuse to have a good cry. ?As an emotionally-repressed man, I count on the boys choking to trigger a masculine cathartic release,? said Jones. ?I?ve come to welcome, and even rely on that man cave sobbing sesh.?
Maple Leafs commentator Jay Williams was also pleased, pointing out that he routinely books vacations that begin the day after regular season play ends. ?I?ll lose my down payment if they advance. And I?m a Leafs commentator, so you know my wallet feels it.?
Babcock closed the conference by complimenting sister teams the Toronto Blue Jays and Raptors for their underwhelming performances this season, adding, ?If just one Toronto team looks good, we all look good. And I can?t have that.?
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2018/10/toronto-maple-leafs-promise-strong-start-to-hockey-season-will-not-affect-ability-to-lose-playoffs/
Blackhawks fire HC Joel Quenneville.
Wow!
Hawks GM, Bowman, was the goof ball that tied the anchor to his teams progress with some large $$ contracts & then hoped JQ could continue to spin the magic.
For me, this is the same scenario in Edmonton with bad signings
The Ducks extended big time to a few which hobbles the team when Perry & Getzlaf don't perform or can't stay healthy.
Chevy has some similar moves & a few more decisions to make to keep our talent in Jet unis.
Reports out of Sportsnet and local Regina media is that the NHL is looking at possibly holding an outdoor game at Mosaic. Just wondering, if the Jets were involved, would Winnipeggers go?
Quote from: upp on November 20, 2018, 02:59:14 AM
Reports out of Sportsnet and local Regina media is that the NHL is looking at possibly holding an outdoor game at Mosaic. Just wondering, if the Jets were involved, would Winnipeggers go?
It wouldn't be the Jets. Unless TNSE expects to get a serious cut of the profits.
IIRC, this was discussed on SN back in January and then the rumour fizzled out shortly thereafter. What's changed since then?
Mike Yeo fired in St. Louis after losing to the Kings tonight.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 20, 2018, 04:13:27 AM
Mike Yeo fired in St. Louis after losing to the Kings tonight.
And today Todd McLellan got the boot in Edmonton, replaced by Ken Hitchcock. Bad month for NHL coaches.
Quote from: Stretch on November 20, 2018, 04:23:15 PM
And today Todd McLellan got the boot in Edmonton, replaced by Ken Hitchcock. Bad month for NHL coaches.
No surprise with McLellan but he only had so much with which to work. Chiarelli's only deflecting blame from his mismanagement of that roster. He's on thin ice, too.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 20, 2018, 04:46:37 PM
No surprise with McLellan but he only had so much Connor McDavid with which to work.
Fixed. ;)
Quote from: Stretch on November 20, 2018, 05:23:49 PM
Fixed. ;)
I agree that Chia made the job much harder on him than it should have been, but he also wasn't pointing a gun to McLellan's head forcing him to play Lucic with McDavid on the PP or in late game must score situations either. As a fan of a Pacific division rival, I'm sad to see McLellan go.
Quote from: Colton on November 20, 2018, 06:39:31 PM
I agree that Chia made the job much harder on him than it should have been, but he also wasn't pointing a gun to McLellan's head forcing him to play Lucic with McDavid on the PP or in late game must score situations either. As a fan of a Pacific division rival, I'm sad to see McLellan go.
And as someone with much disdain for the Oilers, I concur.
He was the perfect candidate to steer the Edmonton ship.
Hitchcock is not the answer Chia will be fired soon.
Edmonton should have canned their GM, Chiarelli, before this season started.
Quote from: Jockitch on November 21, 2018, 12:42:52 AM
Edmonton should have canned their GM, Chiarelli, before this season started.
Everytime I see Chia think think one word. Bum!
Yes, Chiarelli is a poor GM. And he doesn't appear to be any smarter after canning his coach.
Pierre LeBrun@PierreVLeBrun
Darling is in second season of a four-year, $16.6-million contract. If he clears waivers tomorrow, will report to AHL.
Dodged a bullet there...
Quote from: theaardvark on November 29, 2018, 05:40:08 PM
Pierre LeBrun@PierreVLeBrun
Darling is in second season of a four-year, $16.6-million contract. If he clears waivers tomorrow, will report to AHL.
Dodged a bullet there...
What bullet is that?
Seattle officially getting a team in 2021.
https://www.tsn.ca/seattle-officially-approved-as-the-nhl-s-32nd-franchise-1.1220648
Quote from: bluengold204 on December 04, 2018, 06:24:55 PM
Seattle officially getting a team in 2021.
https://www.tsn.ca/seattle-officially-approved-as-the-nhl-s-32nd-franchise-1.1220648
i think it will do fine there...lots of $$$ floating around, big city, no BB franchise to compete at the moment
Gotta feel for Quebec City though - maybe one of the failing franchises will eventually move there. Bring back the Nordiques!!
Quote from: The Zipp on December 04, 2018, 06:29:00 PM
i think it will do fine there...lots of $$$ floating around, big city, no BB franchise to compete at the moment
Gotta feel for Quebec City though - maybe one of the failing franchises will eventually move there. Bring back the Nordiques!!
Florida or Carolina in 5 years.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 04, 2018, 07:41:36 PM
Florida or Carolina in 5 years.
Agreed. It'll be one of those two. That's the only way QC gets a franchise: relocation.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on December 04, 2018, 05:10:19 PM
What bullet is that?
He was an early contender in the goalie sweepstakes that landed us on Mason. So, we dodged a bullet, but ended up eating the gun... ;)
Hutch traded to Toronto for a fifth rounder...
Wild trade RW Nino Niederreiter to the Hurricanes in exchange for C Victor Rask. Odd trade.
Two games for Johansen: https://www.tsn.ca/johansen-gets-2-game-ban-for-high-stick-on-scheifele-1.1243693 (https://www.tsn.ca/johansen-gets-2-game-ban-for-high-stick-on-scheifele-1.1243693)
Good.
How does Dubas sign Matthews for over $11 mil a year, and only get him on a 5 year deal? They get what, 1 year of UFA in exchange for giving him full UFA salary for 4 years while he would be an RFA?
Quite shocked, really. Dubas is supposed to be a wunderkind, but how do you not lock up Matthews to an 8 year deal?
Plus, the deal is lockoutproof! For the player!
I really hope that this doesn't give Laine's agent any leverage to get a similar deal. Whatever happened to a "bridge" deal.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 06, 2019, 09:03:29 PM
How does Dubas sign Matthews for over $11 mil a year, and only get him on a 5 year deal? They get what, 1 year of UFA in exchange for giving him full UFA salary for 4 years while he would be an RFA?
Quite shocked, really. Dubas is supposed to be a wunderkind, but how do you not lock up Matthews to an 8 year deal?
Plus, the deal is lockoutproof! For the player!
I really hope that this doesn't give Laine's agent any leverage to get a similar deal. Whatever happened to a "bridge" deal.
He won't get a similar deal but it probably does get Laine some extra leverage, even if they aren't very comparable players.
It is odd they didn't go max term but Matthews probably refused or priced the contract so high it was untenable. Mathews is a first line centre and the face of the Toronto Maple Leafs. He can pretty much do what he wants -- certainly has a tremendous amount of bargaining power. The Leafs could have strung him along and tried to do the hardball RFA thing but that would have left them open for a souring of the relationship. You can do that with Jacob Trouba. You can't do that with the biggest reason for your franchise's change of fortunes.
I don't know what the appetite for a traditional bridge deal would have been, but for a guy like Mathews that it would have only increased the price after its conclusion. Now the Leafs have cost certainty when negotitating the rest of their young core. The landscape of the NHL is always changing. This might be one of those watershed moments.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 07, 2019, 08:02:03 PM
He won't get a similar deal but it probably does get Laine some extra leverage, even if they aren't very comparable players.
It is odd they didn't go max term but Matthews probably refused or priced the contract so high it was untenable. Mathews is a first line centre and the face of the Toronto Maple Leafs. He can pretty much do what he wants -- certainly has a tremendous amount of bargaining power. The Leafs could have strung him along and tried to do the hardball RFA thing but that would have left them open for a souring of the relationship. You can do that with Jacob Trouba. You can't do that with the biggest reason for your franchise's change of fortunes.
I don't know what the appetite for a traditional bridge deal would have been, but for a guy like Mathews that it would have only increased the price after its conclusion. Now the Leafs have cost certainty when negotitating the rest of their young core. The landscape of the NHL is always changing. This might be one of those watershed moments.
I'm not sure how much more than $11million he would have gotten after a bridge... Bridge him for 3 at $5.5 mil, and you save 18million. Then you can offer him 8 at $13, and be getting him for the same as $11mil now, and have him for 11 years. No one can match 8 at $13... they can only give 7.
Now, after 5, he is UFA so he gets max $ now, and full freedom at his prime.
Dubas screwed the pooch on this one IMHO... he really got bent over.
I wonder if Matthews has aspirations to play at home for the Coyotes. By then AZ will be in the central so I wouldn?t look forward to playing them 5 times a year, but he could do wonders for getting butts in the seats in that sanitarium in the desert.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 07, 2019, 09:48:08 PM
I'm not sure how much more than $11million he would have gotten after a bridge... Bridge him for 3 at $5.5 mil, and you save 18million. Then you can offer him 8 at $13, and be getting him for the same as $11mil now, and have him for 11 years. No one can match 8 at $13... they can only give 7.
Now, after 5, he is UFA so he gets max $ now, and full freedom at his prime.
Dubas screwed the pooch on this one IMHO... he really got bent over.
I don?t completely understand the whole process, but Toronto can just tell Auston Matthews, the face of their organization, that he gets to play for 5.5 per year?
That?s doesn?t make much sense to me.
Quote from: Jesse on February 08, 2019, 01:13:36 AM
I don?t completely understand the whole process, but Toronto can just tell Auston Matthews, the face of their organization, that he gets to play for 5.5 per year?
That?s doesn?t make much sense to me.
As far as I understand, taking a substantially less dollar figure for a short deal is how a bridge works. For Matthews, a more reasonable bridge deal would be more than 5.5M and for less than 3 years (2 absolute max IMO).
Otherwise I do kind of agree with aardvark that the signing structure is a bit underwhelming for the Leafs but like I said in my subsequent post, I have a hunch that was done by design.
Quote from: Jesse on February 08, 2019, 01:13:36 AM
I don?t completely understand the whole process, but Toronto can just tell Auston Matthews, the face of their organization, that he gets to play for 5.5 per year?
That?s doesn?t make much sense to me.
No, they can't.
It's not nearly as bad as a contract for the Leafs as Aardvark thinks it is. The Leafs would not be able to fit everyone they want on the team under the cap with the cap hit Matthews would have received over 8 years. This was a concession they needed to make to keep everyone together for the next 5 years.
Quote from: Colton on February 08, 2019, 05:43:27 AM
No, they can't.
It's not nearly as bad as a contract for the Leafs as Aardvark thinks it is. The Leafs would not be able to fit everyone they want on the team under the cap with the cap hit Matthews would have received over 8 years. This was a concession they needed to make to keep everyone together for the next 5 years.
That's absolutely how I understood this contract.
How does giving him more money while he is still a RFA slave "keep the team together"? As to can they force him to play for less, ask Jacob Trouba about that.
If 5 years is the max this group can stay together, I guess maxing each of them now does that, but you better get all the cups you can in that span. Because you are in a world of hurt after.
An interesting point brought up about AZ... most players (like Taveres) would dream of playing for the Leafs, especially a competitive Leafs team. Matthews is a part of the new generation, who's home is in the desert, and by 4 years from now, Matthews could be a rental player pickup that turns into the 'yotes franchise player... and actually like it.
Matthews isn't giving Toronto any love by taking max money on a 5 year term... but it just might be the only way to give Dubas 5 years to win a cup...
Quote from: theaardvark on February 08, 2019, 09:02:49 PM
How does giving him more money while he is still a RFA slave "keep the team together"? As to can they force him to play for less, ask Jacob Trouba about that.
If 5 years is the max this group can stay together, I guess maxing each of them now does that, but you better get all the cups you can in that span. Because you are in a world of hurt after.
An interesting point brought up about AZ... most players (like Taveres) would dream of playing for the Leafs, especially a competitive Leafs team. Matthews is a part of the new generation, who's home is in the desert, and by 4 years from now, Matthews could be a rental player pickup that turns into the 'yotes franchise player... and actually like it.
Matthews isn't giving Toronto any love by taking max money on a 5 year term... but it just might be the only way to give Dubas 5 years to win a cup...
Matthews was not an RFA slave, he held an incredible amount of leverage in his situation due to the way the Leafs are currently structured. They absolutely could not afford to have him hold out next season. The bump in his year 1 cap hit after a hold out would have crippled the teams cap.
Quote from: Colton on February 08, 2019, 09:30:06 PM
Matthews was not an RFA slave, he held an incredible amount of leverage in his situation due to the way the Leafs are currently structured. They absolutely could not afford to have him hold out next season. The bump in his year 1 cap hit after a hold out would have crippled the teams cap.
When would Matthews have become a UFA. Usually, a player with RFA years left who gets a market value contract gives back UFA years. Trouba got a 2yr, $6mil bridge deal, leaving him an RFA at the end, and then a $5.5 one year deal and is still an RFA at the end of that. The team holds the cards while the player is RFA.
Giving a player market value while an RFA has to benefit the team backm which is why you can re-sign a playert for an 8 year term, but only sign a player for 7. Give the team that drafted and developed the player an advantage in an extra year of UFA. The Matthews deal costs the Leafs a huge amount of money, and they get 1 year of UFA with a no move clause in it, so if they thnik he is going to walk at the end, they can't even get anything for him.
Other than locking him up for 5 years, which they already had 4 years of RFA anyways, I see absolutely nothing in this deal for the Leafs. Dubas gave away the farm, and is potentially ending up with a handfull of beans...
When would
Quote from: theaardvark on February 09, 2019, 02:47:18 PM
When would Matthews have become a UFA. Usually, a player with RFA years left who gets a market value contract gives back UFA years. Trouba got a 2yr, $6mil bridge deal, leaving him an RFA at the end, and then a $5.5 one year deal and is still an RFA at the end of that. The team holds the cards while the player is RFA.
Giving a player market value while an RFA has to benefit the team backm which is why you can re-sign a playert for an 8 year term, but only sign a player for 7. Give the team that drafted and developed the player an advantage in an extra year of UFA. The Matthews deal costs the Leafs a huge amount of money, and they get 1 year of UFA with a no move clause in it, so if they thnik he is going to walk at the end, they can't even get anything for him.
Other than locking him up for 5 years, which they already had 4 years of RFA anyways, I see absolutely nothing in this deal for the Leafs. Dubas gave away the farm, and is potentially ending up with a handfull of beans...
When would
RFA doesn't equate to being able to treat the player however the team wants and strong arm him into playing him less. Yes, you're going to be able to retain the player, but you still need to pay him what he's worth.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 11, 2019, 01:27:32 PM
RFA doesn't equate to being able to treat the player however the team wants and strong arm him into playing him less. Yes, you're going to be able to retain the player, but you still need to pay him what he's worth.
As Jacob Trouba about RFA and getting paid "what you are worth"
Quote from: theaardvark on February 11, 2019, 02:19:07 PM
As Jacob Trouba about RFA and getting paid "what you are worth"
Do you advocate the Leafs should have played hardball and taken Mathews to arbitration, as the Jets did with Trouba?
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 11, 2019, 04:18:30 PM
Do you advocate the Leafs should have played hardball and taken Mathews to arbitration, as the Jets did with Trouba?
No, the contract before, the bridge deal...
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/cap-comparables-jacob-troubas-bridge-deal-stacks/
Dubas has now created the standard for his GM tenure. ELC and then Mega deal for 1 year FA protection. If you are giving up the value years that the CBA gives you with the whole RFA / RFA with Arbitration, you'd better get back some UFA years in the deal. Again, its why you can sign your guys for 8 years. Overpay the RFA years, get some value on teh back end, or at least keep the player.
Dubas did neither. He gave up probably $20mil in salary overpay for the RFA years, and got back 1 year of UFA, and will have to pay full market in 5 years, if he retains Matthews at all. In the meantime, he's in tough trying to fit everyone else under the cap. 25% eaten up in Matthews and Tavares... he is going to have a pretty tough time re-signing any other players going forward.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 11, 2019, 04:26:33 PM
Dubas did neither. He gave up probably $20mil in salary overpay for the RFA years
lmfao
Quote from: theaardvark on February 11, 2019, 04:26:33 PM
No, the contract before, the bridge deal...
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/cap-comparables-jacob-troubas-bridge-deal-stacks/
Dubas has now created the standard for his GM tenure. ELC and then Mega deal for 1 year FA protection. If you are giving up the value years that the CBA gives you with the whole RFA / RFA with Arbitration, you'd better get back some UFA years in the deal. Again, its why you can sign your guys for 8 years. Overpay the RFA years, get some value on teh back end, or at least keep the player.
Dubas did neither. He gave up probably $20mil in salary overpay for the RFA years, and got back 1 year of UFA, and will have to pay full market in 5 years, if he retains Matthews at all. In the meantime, he's in tough trying to fit everyone else under the cap. 25% eaten up in Matthews and Tavares... he is going to have a pretty tough time re-signing any other players going forward.
Every GM always pays "full market value" for pending UFAs. I would think he has a lot better chance to retain Matthews having signed him to landmark contract, rather than trying to force a bridge deal or gone down the RFA strongarm path. Aardvark, I don't disagree it's not a big contract or even a deviation from the norm. Typically, guys sign for 6-8. But it's not near as bad as you are making it sound. They needed Matthews. They needed cost certainty past two years. Matthews is worth the money for the Leafs.
I'm saying, bridge him for 2 at $5 or 6 mil, and then sign him for 5 or more...
Alternately, sign him for 8 at 12 mil... and get 3 extra UFA years locked in.
The current contract is 100% for the player, and while the loyalty factor is up-played with this deal, if AZ comes along with a matching deal in 5 years, you know where he will sign, right? Just like Taveres, he will show loyalty to his home, for sure, and AZ will be a different team then, and the Leafs might be in cap trouble by then, with all the other guys they need to lock up and already have signed, and have to let the one player go (Matthews) go to keep the rest of the team intact...
Just saying Dubas signed a deal with the absolute minimum benefit for his team, with the hopes it will retain him down the line. If he would have offered a deal exactly like the one Taveres got, except with the added year...that would have made sense to me.
And with it 93% being bonuses... no IR cap relief if he gets injured...
Matthews agent took Dubas out behind the woodshed and whupped him good...
Quote from: theaardvark on February 11, 2019, 07:23:28 PM
I'm saying, bridge him for 2 at $5 or 6 mil, and then sign him for 5 or more...
Alternately, sign him for 8 at 12 mil... and get 3 extra UFA years locked in.
The current contract is 100% for the player, and while the loyalty factor is up-played with this deal, if AZ comes along with a matching deal in 5 years, you know where he will sign, right? Just like Taveres, he will show loyalty to his home, for sure, and AZ will be a different team then, and the Leafs might be in cap trouble by then, with all the other guys they need to lock up and already have signed, and have to let the one player go (Matthews) go to keep the rest of the team intact...
Just saying Dubas signed a deal with the absolute minimum benefit for his team, with the hopes it will retain him down the line. If he would have offered a deal exactly like the one Taveres got, except with the added year...that would have made sense to me.
And with it 93% being bonuses... no IR cap relief if he gets injured...
Matthews agent took Dubas out behind the woodshed and whupped him good...
What if his representation said, "Mr. Aardvark GM - we will not sign a bridge deal. Zero interest." Then what would you do? There is no rule that says players have to sign a bridge deal. There is also no rule that they sign for 8 years.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 11, 2019, 07:39:14 PM
What if his representation said, "Mr. Aardvark GM - we will not sign a bridge deal. Zero interest." Then what would you do? There is no rule that says players have to sign a bridge deal. There is also no rule that they sign for 8 years.
You don't want a bridge deal? Ok, then here's the league min offer that you HAVE to sign as an RFA. We OWN you for 7 years, bub. The last year, we'll let an arbiter decide, but until then, here's your qualifying offer. Want to sit out? Go ahead, we still own you until your RFA status mandated age/years of play are reached...
Why have RFA status if you don't use it at all?
As for signing 8 year deals, no, they don't have to. But it is your job as a GM to get them to, by offering a contract that it makes sense to sign.
Dubas gave him everything, term, $, structure and got nothing back....
Quote from: theaardvark on February 11, 2019, 07:48:38 PM
You don't want a bridge deal? Ok, then here's the league min offer that you HAVE to sign as an RFA. We OWN you for 7 years, bub. The last year, we'll let an arbiter decide, but until then, here's your qualifying offer. Want to sit out? Go ahead, we still own you until your RFA status mandated age/years of play are reached...
Why have RFA status if you don't use it at all?
As for signing 8 year deals, no, they don't have to. But it is your job as a GM to get them to, by offering a contract that it makes sense to sign.
Dubas gave him everything, term, $, structure and got nothing back....
He's allowed to sign a contract with another team as an RFA. You don't understand how any of this works. The situation you're describing helps Toronto in absolutely no way. The contract they signed Matthews to maximizes the window they can keep the roster they want together, and you're going to be seeing a lot more of it so you better get used to it.
Quote from: Colton on February 11, 2019, 07:56:57 PM
He's allowed to sign a contract with another team as an RFA. You don't understand how any of this works. The situation you're describing helps Toronto in absolutely no way. The contract they signed Matthews to maximizes the window they can keep the roster they want together, and you're going to be seeing a lot more of it so you better get used to it.
They have 5 years. Maybe. Because for those years, they have $24mil tied up in Tavares / Matthews.
Yes, they can sign an offer sheet. And that is why bridge deals exist, because teams don't want to poach players with offer sheets, and teams don't want to give other teams that opportunity.
When was the last offer sheet offered? And guess what? If someone signed Matthews to an $8 mil plus offer sheet, it would cost the 4 first rounders. No player would want to go to a team that just gave up its future for him, right?
Bridge deals get signed because the CBA makes it work. And if you don't bridge, you give up UFA term for RFA dollars...
Dubas did none of these things. And gave him all signing bonuses, making it IR AND lockout proof...
Quote from: theaardvark on February 11, 2019, 07:23:28 PM
And with it 93% being bonuses... no IR cap relief if he gets injured...
https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq
Senators trade Duchene to the Blue Jackets, per Darren Dreger.
that's a super grab for the Blue Jackets & the Sens did not get returns of big substance IMO. Duchene will be their #1 center with Panarin ------ SCARY
TSN James Duthie @tsnjamesduhtie
Replying to @TSNHockey @tsnjamesduthie and
DONE DEAL! #Canucks acquire F Mark Stone, F Alex Formenton, G Graig Anderson and a 2020 4th round pick from #Sens in exchange for G Tkacher Demko, D Olli Juolevi and a 2019 1st & 2nd round picks. Canucks going all in. I'm told they are not done yet. #NHL
7:48 AM - 23 Feb 2019
Looks legit... ;)
Zuccarello plays one game, gets a goal, an assist and a 4-6 week injury...
Quote from: theaardvark on February 24, 2019, 03:40:53 PM
TSN James Duthie @tsnjamesduhtie
Replying to @TSNHockey @tsnjamesduthie and
DONE DEAL! #Canucks acquire F Mark Stone, F Alex Formenton, G Graig Anderson and a 2020 4th round pick from #Sens in exchange for G Tkacher Demko, D Olli Juolevi and a 2019 1st & 2nd round picks. Canucks going all in. I'm told they are not done yet. #NHL
7:48 AM - 23 Feb 2019
Mark Stone is still a Senator by all reports and the Canucks are said not to be giving up any draft picks in a trade with other teams.
Looks legit... ;)
Quote from: theaardvark on February 24, 2019, 03:40:53 PM
TSN James Duthie @tsnjamesduhtie
Replying to @TSNHockey @tsnjamesduthie and
DONE DEAL! #Canucks acquire F Mark Stone, F Alex Formenton, G Graig Anderson and a 2020 4th round pick from #Sens in exchange for G Tkacher Demko, D Olli Juolevi and a 2019 1st & 2nd round picks. Canucks going all in. I'm told they are not done yet. #NHL
7:48 AM - 23 Feb 2019
Looks legit... ;)
Quote from: ModAdmin on February 25, 2019, 04:53:26 AM
Mark Stone is still a Senator by all reports and the Canucks are said not to be giving up any draft picks in a trade with other teams.
I know... it was a joke.... ;)
Granlund and Fiala swap jerseys.
Stone to Vegas.
Some nice movement today.
I liked it better when Vegas was not in the NHL. They definitely have an advantage over other teams like Winnipeg in being able to attract players. Winnipeg, in my opinion, can?t afford to trade away top prospects since our main way of building a contending team is to draft and develop. Vegas can easily attract free agents rather than depending mostly on drafting.
And now Nashville signs Simmonds... sigh. Jets need to up their game big time!
I'd like the blender to shoot out -
Connor/Scheifele/Wheeler
Laine/Hayes/Ehlers
Tanev/Lowry/Copp
Roslovic/Little/Perreault
Philadelphia won that trade with Nashville. But they got a big name player, that's what they are going for in Nashville.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on February 25, 2019, 07:09:52 PM
I liked it better when Vegas was not in the NHL. They definitely have an advantage over other teams like Winnipeg in being able to attract players. Winnipeg, in my opinion, can?t afford to trade away top prospects since our main way of building a contending team is to draft and develop. Vegas can easily attract free agents rather than depending mostly on drafting.
And now Nashville signs Simmonds... sigh. Jets need to up their game big time!
The same can be said for several other teams, especially on the other side of the 49th parallel.
I think one needs to remember building through free agency is not sustainable, either. In today's NHL, draft and develop is a necessity for long-term, sustained success. If anything, the Knights' biggest advantage over any other team right now is its new franchise smell. That'll wear off sooner than later, though.
Their projected cap space for next season is under $7M. Karlsson needs a new contract and Stone's extension, which will reportedly kick in on Friday, means McPhee will have some major shuffling to do. (https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/goldenknights (https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/goldenknights))
It is too bad that players can't be paid out of a central fund based in one of the non state tax states. FLA, TB and LV have distinct advantages in that they have no state tax (not sure which other states do as well), so they can sign players for less and have the player actually make more... completely unfair advantage.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 27, 2019, 03:33:22 PM
It is too bad that players can't be paid out of a central fund based in one of the non state tax states. FLA, TB and LV have distinct advantages in that they have no state tax (not sure which other states do as well), so they can sign players for less and have the player actually make more... completely unfair advantage.
Any team is able to do this via signing bonuses if they want to.
Quote from: Colton on February 27, 2019, 05:04:28 PM
Any team is able to do this via signing bonuses if they want to.
Signing bonuses are still state taxed, pretty sure the 15% reduced rate is for federal... I don't think states have a reduced tax for bonuses, but I could be wrong...
Quote from: theaardvark on February 27, 2019, 08:35:12 PM
Signing bonuses are still state taxed, pretty sure the 15% reduced rate is for federal... I don't think states have a reduced tax for bonuses, but I could be wrong...
There are different rules for different places and circumstances. It's not as simple as saying "signing bonuses" are the way to circumvent income tax, like Colton said. Americans working in Canada get taxed at a far lower rate on lump sum signing bonuses (look up the Austin Matthews deal), but the same deal wouldn't have sheltered money for a Canadian NHL player. Also, not every team can or will have the resources to structure contracts that way. Toronto can, Winnipeg or Phoenix likely cannot. So while any team can technically structure contracts to include large signing bonuses, not every team has the ability to do so, and in doing so, not every contract would put the player on par with 0% state income tax (in fact many would not).
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 27, 2019, 09:26:20 PM
but the same deal wouldn't have sheltered money for a Canadian NHL player.
Look up the John Tavares deal
Quote from: Colton on February 28, 2019, 05:00:29 PM
Look up the John Tavares deal
Like I said, it is specific to the individual circumstance. "Signing bonuses" is not a correct blanket statement. For this to work, Tavaras has to live the US in the off-season and the % of money he saves is dependent on whether he makes his off-season home in New York or Florida, for example. He could also remain in Canada and still pay less tax than if he were to live in New York, but not Florida, if he were to contribute a certain amount to a Retirement Compensation Agreement. There are many other options besides.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/seanpackard/2018/07/06/john-tavares-could-save-nearly-12-million-in-taxes-on-his-new-contract
Boucher out as HC of the Senators, Crawford takes over in the interim.
Makes a lot of sense, Boucher wasn't being brought back, and Crawford is lauded for his work with young players, which is what the Sens will 100% be next year... they may have issues hitting the cap floor....
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 28, 2019, 05:57:27 PM
Like I said, it is specific to the individual circumstance. "Signing bonuses" is not a correct blanket statement. For this to work, Tavaras has to live the US in the off-season and the % of money he saves is dependent on whether he makes his off-season home in New York or Florida, for example. He could also remain in Canada and still pay less tax than if he were to live in New York, but not Florida, if he were to contribute a certain amount to a Retirement Compensation Agreement. There are many other options besides.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/seanpackard/2018/07/06/john-tavares-could-save-nearly-12-million-in-taxes-on-his-new-contract
Excellent read.
Game clocks in boards at all NHL rinks.
https://www.tsn.ca/gms-reject-one-minute-ot-penalty-proposal-1.1268070
Mark Stone gets paid: https://www.tsn.ca/golden-knights-sign-stone-to-8-year-deal-1.1270108 (https://www.tsn.ca/golden-knights-sign-stone-to-8-year-deal-1.1270108)
$76M total contract ($9.5AAV). That's a lotta scratch!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 08, 2019, 09:21:04 PM
Mark Stone gets paid: https://www.tsn.ca/golden-knights-sign-stone-to-8-year-deal-1.1270108 (https://www.tsn.ca/golden-knights-sign-stone-to-8-year-deal-1.1270108)
$76M total contract ($9.5AAV). That's a lotta scratch!
Which is why he was never coming here... plus, Nevada has no state tax....
Quote from: theaardvark on March 08, 2019, 09:22:00 PM
Which is why he was never coming here... plus, Nevada has no state tax....
For sure. But there were a number reasons why he wasn't ever coming here.
Stone vs. Wheeler, which would you rather have?
https://www.tsn.ca/rieder-offended-by-nicholson-s-comments-1.1277900 (https://www.tsn.ca/rieder-offended-by-nicholson-s-comments-1.1277900)
Bob Nicholson is either stupid or senile... or both.
And he seems to wonder why his organization is such a mess...? Take a look in the mirror, Bob.
Bob for sure ...... plus those idiots like Lowe & McTavish, who helped turn it into an embarrassment back over a decade ago.
It's official, the Jets, Flames, and Leafs are Canada's hope to bring the Cup back home.
Appears the Flames are the team to put the $$ on. Am a big Jet fan/critic so I will be nail biting, swearing & cheering throughout the ups & downs
Quote from: Jockitch on April 06, 2019, 02:05:11 PM
Appears the Flames are the team to put the $$ on. Am a big Jet fan/critic so I will be nail biting, swearing & cheering throughout the ups & downs
I would agree...Toronto has the bruins and the Lightning are going to be the favs to win it all based on just how good they are.
Jets well - I don't even know what to predict...probably disappointment?
Huh, our resident Oilers fans have sure been quiet the past year or so... Glad they didn?t win the draft lottery again! Avs dropped from first to fourth again, lol! Love it!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 10, 2019, 03:35:43 AM
Huh, our resident Oilers fans have sure been quiet the past year or so... Glad they didn?t win the draft lottery again! Avs dropped from first to fourth again, lol! Love it!
I was just thinking about those two. That sure is fun to look back on. Lots of chirping about a team that had one (mediocre) playoff run in 13 years, yet have the best player in the world and 455 first overall picks.
But I digress :)
Poor Sakic looked so sick when he dropped to 4th ....... still not a bad position ...... Ottawa fans, those few who care, must have felt soooooo relieved in a sense.
If Hughes lands in Jersey, Taylor Hall isn't a bad player to be teamed with, on occasion, to learn how to play both ends of the rink.
Was really happy for the Rangers, cuz I've always loved their uni colors, to break their bad tradition of no top picks for a gazillion years.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 10, 2019, 01:52:56 PM
I was just thinking about those two. That sure is fun to look back on. Lots of chirping about a team that had one (mediocre) playoff run in 13 years, yet have the best player in the world and 455 first overall picks.
But I digress :)
Honestly, it brings me pure joy to dig through those old conversations and see the nonsense that was spewed by those two.
It also brings me pure joy the playoffs start tonight!!
With apologies to Jets & their fans, I'm REALLY pulling for a Carolina Hurricanes - Nashville Predators Stanley Cup Finals. That would be so funny.
Quote from: royrdsjr on April 12, 2019, 02:05:18 AM
With apologies to Jets & their fans, I'm REALLY pulling for a Carolina Hurricanes - Nashville Predators Stanley Cup Finals. That would be so funny.
You're dead to us.
Quote from: royrdsjr on April 12, 2019, 02:05:18 AM
With apologies to Jets & their fans, I'm REALLY pulling for a Carolina Hurricanes - Nashville Predators Stanley Cup Finals. That would be so funny.
That would cause Gary Bettman to give all his critics the middle finger.
Tampa bay down 3-0 to CBJ
Tampa can win 4 straight at any time BUT this is surprising...
A first round loss would be a huge choke!!
Quote from: The Zipp on April 13, 2019, 12:39:20 AM
Tampa bay down 3-0 to CBJ
Tampa can win 4 straight at any time BUT this is surprising...
A first round loss would be a huge choke!!
3-1 now...not over
Torts has his playoff face on, his team is challenging the Bolts & Vasilevskiy's magic is no place to be found.
Sharks & Vegas are flying & pounding each other. In 2 games the Sharks have laid out 88 hits & Vegas 72. WOW !!
Also, in a take no prisoners battle, Islanders have out hit the Pens by a close 83-79
Meanwhile the Jets are outhitting the Blues 66-47
Tort - a - rell - a
Tampa is down 3-0
Unbelievable
Just about everyone had Tampa winning it all. But rarely does the President's trophy winner win the cup. And getting pwned by Torts? COuld this be a time where the president's trophy winning coach gets canned? Is John Cooper the next Dwayne Casey?
No way Cooper gets axed. He just got extended at the end of March.
Holy crow Ovi just destroyed a dude (can spell his name) in a fight - knocked him out cold with a punch...
Like freakin' Ivan Drago our there
Quote from: The Zipp on April 15, 2019, 11:58:37 PM
Holy crow Ovi just destroyed a dude (can spell his name) in a fight - knocked him out cold with a punch...
Like freakin' Ivan Drago our there
That guy is a beast.
Quote from: Jesse on April 16, 2019, 12:00:22 PM
That guy is a beast.
He's a lot bigger than some people realize.
Thorton gets a game for head hunting? Egregious.
And then dismisses the hit saying his kid hits him harder multiple times a day... well, if that's true it explains a lot...
One game usually means the offender was at least remorseful of his actions, not sure that comment says anything of the sort.
Biggest choke ever?? I think the TBL take that award along with their Presidents trophy...
62 wins in the regular season
0 in the post season
Craziest thing I've seen in the NHL. Bolts were absolutely brutal in this series.
Penguins get swept, too.
I am stunned by Tampa getting swept! My playoff bracket just went poof!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 17, 2019, 05:18:42 AM
I am stunned by Tampa getting swept! My playoff bracket just went poof!
You and a lot of other people (myself included :'().
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 17, 2019, 02:13:26 AM
Craziest thing I've seen in the NHL. Bolts were absolutely brutal in this series.
Penguins get swept, too.
Anybody watch all four games of the series???
Tort's used a 1-2-2 trap in New York, I'm guessing he did that with Columbus and the Tampa players refused to play a hard dump and chase game.
Very disappointed with the Pens, that's two years in a row that Barry Trotz beat them with the 1-1-3 neutral zone trap
Nathan McKinnon is fun to watch...
Dallas taking it to the Preds
Well if you weren't watching this game 7 between the sharks and knights you are missing something crazy...
Not sure about the major penalty call...but sitting here waiting for OT to start around midnight I am calling Vegas to win...
Quote from: The Zipp on April 24, 2019, 04:41:26 AM
Well if you weren't watching this game 7 between the sharks and knights you are missing something crazy...
Not sure about the major penalty call...but sitting here waiting for OT to start around midnight I am calling Vegas to win...
What a game!! Dont really love or hate either team so it was just fun to watch the ebb and flow of this game.
Knights, Preds and Leafs all knocked out in round one makes me very happy! I officially don?t care who wins the cup now as my most hated teams are all out. Loved seeing the Leafs lose AGAIN to Boston and Vegas fans finally get a taste of the lows of being an NHL fan.
The only 2 teams I would prefer to not win the cup are Boston and Washington...cause the city of Boston just has too many winners and Washington won last year...
lots of interesting combinations available.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 24, 2019, 11:59:52 AM
Knights, Preds and Leafs all knocked out in round one makes me very happy! I officially don?t care who wins the cup now as my most hated teams are all out. Loved seeing the Leafs lose AGAIN to Boston and Vegas fans finally get a taste of the lows of being an NHL fan.
Agree 100% on this.
Now for Carolina to beat Washington tonight and we can add to what must be officially the most backward playoffs in recent memory. That would mean all 4 wild card teams survived round 1, knocking out the top seeds in every division!
This is a very small feeling of "it ain't so bad" after the Jets' early exit. At least we don't have to put up with gloat from Leafs fans.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 24, 2019, 11:59:52 AM
Knights, Preds and Leafs all knocked out in round one makes me very happy! I officially don?t care who wins the cup now as my most hated teams are all out. Loved seeing the Leafs lose AGAIN to Boston and Vegas fans finally get a taste of the lows of being an NHL fan.
Also agree 100%. I'm kind of disappointed that no one has updated the Leafs Wikipedia page yet to say that they're owned by the Boston Bruins. ;D
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on April 24, 2019, 11:59:52 AM
Knights, Preds and Leafs all knocked out in round one makes me very happy! I officially don?t care who wins the cup now as my most hated teams are all out. Loved seeing the Leafs lose AGAIN to Boston and Vegas fans finally get a taste of the lows of being an NHL fan.
Agree with all of this too.
It's nice to see the Leafs fans getting a taste of their own medicine as I recall a lot of gloating and smugness when the Leafs would bounce the Sens from the playoffs every year in the early 2000's.
Craziest first round in recent memory. That VGK/SJS game last night was something else.
Just watched the highlights, that 5 mins for cross checking... i dunno about that lol
Was thrilled that the Sharks got by Vegas in an exciting game. The Major Penalty became a once in a lifetime scene of pumping in goals
The call on Eakin was downright awful bordering on one of the worst reactionary calls after the fact ....... believe it was called by the linesman who can call a major.
Regardless ....... the Leafs got bounced & Babcock, he's sooooo overrated, will be questioned on how he rolled his 4 lines instead of shortening the bench
Stars now take on the Blues ...... I'll cheer for the Stars but thinking the Blues will win in 6. Want the Avs over the Sharks which might go the 7 games.
The 5 minute penalty that the Knights received in the 3rd period ranks right up there with the worst calls in sports history.
Cody should received a 2 minute cross checking penalty. Stastny another 2 minutes for interference. Stastny skate accidentally clips the players ear who on the ice as he is jumping over him and it's 5 minutes and the game is over.
Terrible.
One of those worst calls in sports? Nah. That's an overdramatic response. It happened very quickly and the official called it as he saw it. To suggest Stastny skated into Pavelski "by accident" is spurious at best. Eakin delivered a cross-check and it led to Pavelski losing his balance, and then Stastny interfered with him and he fell to the ice, drawing blood. In real time, it looks like a much more severe incident than it was, but that's neither here nor there as the official based his decision off his perception. That happens often, especially in a sport as fast as hockey.
Had this been a regular season game, no way does this get the attention it does.
Furthermore, the Golden Knights could've actually killed the penalty and not allowed four goals. Let's also not forget they tied up the game late and forced OT. They had plenty of opportunity to win that game. And let's not forget they blew a 3-1 series lead.
I agree that Babcock is overrated, however he does score goals or stop goals from entering the leafs net. Like Wheeler said it's on the players.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 24, 2019, 06:52:14 PM
The 5 minute penalty that the Knights received in the 3rd period ranks right up there with the worst calls in sports history.
Cody should received a 2 minute cross checking penalty. Stastny another 2 minutes for interference. Stastny skate accidentally clips the players ear who on the ice as he is jumping over him and it's 5 minutes and the game is over.
Terrible.
I thought it might have been Stastny's skate clipping his ear as well when I saw the replay I assume you saw, but there is a high res photo of Pavelski lying on the ice and the blood is pouring out of the top of his helmet.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 24, 2019, 07:22:24 PM
One of those worst calls in sports? Nah. That's an overdramatic response. It happened very quickly and the official called it as he saw it. To suggest Stastny skated into Pavelski "by accident" is spurious at best. Eakin delivered a cross-check and it led to Pavelski losing his balance, and then Stastny interfered with him and he fell to the ice, drawing blood. In real time, it looks like a much more severe incident than it was, but that's neither here nor there as the official based his decision off his perception. That happens often, especially in a sport as fast as hockey.
Had this been a regular season game, no way does this get the attention it does.
Furthermore, the Golden Knights could've actually killed the penalty and not allowed four goals. Let's also not forget they tied up the game late and forced OT. They had plenty of opportunity to win that game. And let's not forget they blew a 3-1 series lead.
X2, it was an epic meltdown by the Golden Knights that let the Sharks back in the game.
The Leafs are a messed up team, they haven't even won one playoff round yet they have two players (Tavares $11 million, Matthews $11.6 million) making double digit salaries. And Marner might make it three.
As for the Eakin penalty, definitely a two minute but when I looked in the rulebook I agree with the referees assessment of a five minute major. The NHL rulebook reads: Rule 59, which governs cross-checking, "A major penalty, at the discretion of the referee based on the severity of the contact, shall be imposed on a player who cross-checks an opponent."
If Eakin doesn't cross-check Pavelski, then Pavelski doesn't rebound off Stastny and hit the ice and start bleeding from his head.
Quote from: Fire101 on April 24, 2019, 10:32:22 PM
The Leafs are a messed up team, they haven't even won one playoff round yet they have two players (Tavares $11 million, Matthews $11.6 million) making double digit salaries. And Marner might make it three.
As for the Eakin penalty, definitely a two minute but when I looked in the rulebook I agree with the referees assessment of a five minute major. The NHL rulebook reads: Rule 59, which governs cross-checking, "A major penalty, at the discretion of the referee based on the severity of the contact, shall be imposed on a player who cross-checks an opponent."
If Eakin doesn't cross-check Pavelski, then Pavelski doesn't rebound off Stastny and hit the ice and start bleeding from his head.
Imo this will change.
Like McDavid said.... when he got hurt... they pay him 100 mil. Well it jus shows that paying one guy that much screws ur team. In this day n age you need a solid team not jus one or 2 guys. That one guy even as good as he is wont win u anything.
Like i said i think we have guys that sighned for less money then they could for the better of the team .... i think that will continue through the room.
Guys will go.... but i think we keep and have our core for years
Well Thank god we don't have to watch OV party with the cup for another 2 months this year.
Well who wins the cup. The Blues in 7.
The Bruins really took over the game in the 2nd & the Blues were lucky to be close with a couple minutes left ....... Chara I think broke a bone above his wrist.
Karlsson to Montreal??
Cheering for the Bruins YAY ......... but in a way I kinda wish the Blues had finished it up tonight
Gads ........ Bloody Marchand is a dirty player The finale is down to the 7th ..... WOW !!
Yes he is dirty, but every team in the NHL would take him.
Congrats to the Blues ........ certainly overcame long odds to get into the playoffs & finish with Lord Stanley's revered Cup on their mantel
Unreal season by the Blues?who saw this coming at Xmas, they were brutal then boom they turned it around big time. Really happy for Berube, a long time enforcer turned coach, he?s paid his dues, did a great job and got his cup. Well done
Does ex-Jet Chris Thorburn get his name on the Stanley Cup, since he only played one game for ths Blues this season ?
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?filter=Y&pid=50179
San Jose sure opened the bank for Eric Karlsson @ a hefty $11,500,000. for 8 years. This leaves just approx. 12.5M cap room on a projected $83M ceiling.
They only have 16 under contract so far towards what is a usual 23 roster ceiling in the Cap world.
Pavelski, Donskoi, Nyquist, Labanc, Timo Meier & the "old" guy, Thornton all need contracts .......... guessing Meier, Donskoi & Labanc only get resigned.
If the Cap gets set, at say, only $81M ....... extra, extra, major scrambling exists for most GM's.
For a guy that could hardly skate at the end of the playoffs. Load management for the up coming year??
From Bob McKenzie:
PHI and pending UFA Kevin Hayes are closing in on a multi-year contract with an AAV of around $7M. Term expected to be at least six years, perhaps seven. Prepare to take another UFA off the board.
Wow. That is a massive overpay!
7 years, 50 million... More than Scheifele
Scheif's deal has turned into a Dream deal for Chevy & the organization Lucky for Hayes.
Vancouver signed Edler 6 million per. 2 year deal.
PK off to New Jersey!!
What was Montreal thinking. 5-6, 160lb. forward as there first pick. Montreal already has some of the smallest forwards in the game.
They obviously didn?t watch the blues big bodies bang and bash their way to a cup!! 5 ft 6, yikes but I guess, Theo fleury had a decent career and the game was a lot tougher back then
You don't find Theo's everyday.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 24, 2019, 04:51:32 AM
What was Montreal thinking. 5-6, 160lb. forward as there first pick. Montreal already has some of the smallest forwards in the game.
I dunno he's small but he's projected to be an elite scorer, a mini ovechkin they are calling him. I don't think it was a bad pick at all
Time will only tell. Montreal has made some bad moves over the last few of years.
Strombone retires... can't wait to see him behind a mike instead of a mask...
His retirement will cost Vancouver 3 mil cap hit for the next three years. The Panthers will take a cap hit 1.1 mil for the next three years also.
81.5Mil cap... and so many teams already set for $83 mil... cutting 1.5 mil isn't really hard, but sighing a FA for $1.5 mil less might be... do the FA's now get a haircut off the 11 or 12 mil contracts they were expecting?
Trouba going fir arbitration. Lol . not happy with 5.5
Quote from: buckzumhoff on July 06, 2019, 03:23:44 AM
Trouba going fir arbitration. Lol . not happy with 5.5
lol what twit! Not jets problem anymore, horah!
Quote from: buckzumhoff on July 06, 2019, 03:23:44 AM
Trouba going fir arbitration. Lol . not happy with 5.5
Glad we got rid of him.
How would you compare Trouba to Meyers? I would says Trouba is a little better. Meyers just got paid $6 mil per. I think I would file also.
Talk about a home town discount .... Kevin Labanc, an RFA, re-signs a 1 year with San Jose for a mere $1.M. Kid had 17 goals & 56 points as a Rookie.
Guess he's helping the club & then banking on a bigger payday next year.
NHLPA announces salary arbitration dates
https://www.tsn.ca/nhlpa-announces-salary-arbitration-dates-for-jordan-binnington-others-1.1335128
Winnipeg Jets: July 21- Andrew Copp
July 24 - Neil Pionk
Quote from: Jockitch on July 09, 2019, 03:58:46 PM
Talk about a home town discount .... Kevin Labanc, an RFA, re-signs a 1 year with San Jose for a mere $1.M. Kid had 17 goals & 56 points as a Rookie.
Guess he's helping the club & then banking on a bigger payday next year.
Blatant cap avoidance, there is a signed contract for next year in the drawer for the real amount. Although there aren't any big contracts coming off the books after next year, so I don't see how this helps much...
Quote from: theaardvark on July 12, 2019, 02:36:16 PM
Blatant cap avoidance, there is a signed contract for next year in the drawer for the real amount. Although there aren't any big contracts coming off the books after next year, so I don't see how this helps much...
Lol he wasn't getting anything significant this year until he proves his January->May wasn't just a fluke or product of playing with Thornton. He'll have the chance to play on the top line this season and if he shows he has the skill, shows he can play responsible defensively, and shows he's able to restrain from taking boneheaded penalties at inopportune times, he'll get a contract next year for a higher AAV than he would have gotten total salary over two full years had he signed a multi-year deal this season. The max he's losing this season is 2M, and he's doing that to try to improve the team for this season to help his chance of getting paid next season. Literally nothing about the deal is cap avoidance.
Quote from: Colton on July 12, 2019, 02:54:21 PM
Lol he wasn't getting anything significant this year until he proves his January->May wasn't just a fluke or product of playing with Thornton. He'll have the chance to play on the top line this season and if he shows he has the skill, shows he can play responsible defensively, and shows he's able to restrain from taking boneheaded penalties at inopportune times, he'll get a contract next year for a higher AAV than he would have gotten total salary over two full years had he signed a multi-year deal this season. The max he's losing this season is 2M, and he's doing that to try to improve the team for this season to help his chance of getting paid next season. Literally nothing about the deal is cap avoidance.
Have you seen what other RFA's have signed for? Guys with half the points, regardless who they played with? There is something fishy going on here, and both GM's and agents shold be concerned...
Quote from: theaardvark on July 12, 2019, 04:12:05 PM
Have you seen what other RFA's have signed for? Guys with half the points, regardless who they played with? There is something fishy going on here, and both GM's and agents shold be concerned...
If Colton's assertion is correct, then perhaps Leblanc is simply one of the few players that can see the forest for the trees in his situation. Often we see players taking as much up front, guaranteed as possible. Leblanc probably really believes he's nowhere near his ceiling and is worth way more but is willing to risk it to prove himself. I admire that and would be happy to see him kill it out there while only pulling in 1M, and then score a ******* contract. Would be a cool story.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 12, 2019, 04:12:05 PM
Have you seen what other RFA's have signed for? Guys with half the points, regardless who they played with? There is something fishy going on here, and both GM's and agents shold be concerned...
Have you seen Kevin Labanc play hockey? He was another horrible defensive play or untimely penalty away from being off the team in late December.
Have you seen how much cap space the Sharks had before they signed Labanc to a deal? He knows he can be a solid top 6 forward and there wasn't money available to make with the Sharks this season. There will be next year. He's sacrificing $1-2M this year for the betterment of his team in order to sign a deal closer to what Timo Meier just signed when that money is available.
Joel Armia gets 2.4 Mil per in arbitration. Copp will probably get the same.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 18, 2019, 07:20:44 PM
Joel Armia gets 2.4 Mil per in arbitration. Copp will probably get the same.
I'm not sure where you read that, but arbitration doesn't start until this weekend. Armia signed a deal with the Canadians for $2.6M last week.
Yes, Armia and Lehkonen signed new contracts on July 11, which was the day of there arbitration hearing, Armia 2.6, and Lehkonen 2.4.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 18, 2019, 09:08:34 PM
Yes, Armia and Lehkonen signed new contracts on July 11, which was the day of there arbitration hearing, Armia 2.6, and Lehkonen 2.4.
The two players signed their new deals and avoided arbitration.
https://www.tsn.ca/montreal-canadiens-and-joel-armia-reach-two-year-deal-to-avoid-arbitration-1.1336024 (https://www.tsn.ca/montreal-canadiens-and-joel-armia-reach-two-year-deal-to-avoid-arbitration-1.1336024)
This news is a week old. And I doubt it'll play much of a factor into what Copp gets, who appears to be sticking with the arbitration route.
Well let just wait and see? I think it will.
Trouba got his money, reported that the Rangers gave him a seven-year $56 million dollar contract.
https://www.tsn.ca/new-york-rangers-defenceman-jacob-trouba-agree-to-terms-on-contract-1.1339617
Great contract for Trouba.
And the Flames get Lucic from the Oilers...? For Neal...? What a weird trade. (https://www.tsn.ca/edmonton-oilers-deal-forward-milan-lucic-to-calgary-flames-1.1339604 (https://www.tsn.ca/edmonton-oilers-deal-forward-milan-lucic-to-calgary-flames-1.1339604))
Neal with McD, could be the guy to get him scoring.
Also heard that Neal had & is training with McDavid daily ....... perhaps McD used some influence to get this done.
Is going back to Finland a good move for Puljujarvi?
Per Twitter: The NHLPA announced today that the Executive Board has declined to reopen the CBA with the NHL following the 2019-20 season. The current CBA remains in effect through the 2021-22 season. The NHLPA advised the League of its decision earlier today.
https://twitter.com/NHLPA/status/1173669215888429056 (https://twitter.com/NHLPA/status/1173669215888429056)
Looks like Rantanen will join his fellow countryman in Bern as contract talks continue: https://twitter.com/CompleteHkyNews/status/1174016556906569728 (https://twitter.com/CompleteHkyNews/status/1174016556906569728)
Point signs for 3 years at $6.75M.
The Carolina Hurricanes have traded Justin Faulk and a fifth-round pick to the St. Louis Blues for defenceman Joel Edmundson, prospect Dominik Bokk and a seventh-round pick in the 2021 NHL Draft. As part of the deal, the Blues signed Faulk to a seven-year, $45.5 million contract extension.
Blues getting better or at least treading water...Where you at Chevy??
Dang... Nice trade for the Blues.
Austin Matthews is facing charges in Arizona- Disorderly Conduct-Disruptive Behaviour or Fighting from an incident in May. Love that leaf fans will have something to gnash their teeth about over their golden boy!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on September 25, 2019, 12:21:50 AM
Austin Matthews is facing charges in Arizona- Disorderly Conduct-Disruptive Behaviour or Fighting from an incident in May. Love that leaf fans will have something to gnash their teeth about over their golden boy!
not sure if it's true but I have been seeing was caught mooning a lady...which is actually kind of funny - dumb but a bit funny...
https://deadspin.com/maple-leafs-auston-matthews-charged-with-disorderly-con-1838423668 (https://deadspin.com/maple-leafs-auston-matthews-charged-with-disorderly-con-1838423668)
Just a stupid move by Auston. Everything is on camera now. He had to know he made a stupid mistake 2 minutes after he did it.
Quote from: Pigskin on September 25, 2019, 04:10:48 AM
Just a stupid move by Auston. Everything is on camera now. He had to know he made a stupid mistake 2 minutes after he did it.
Probably less than that - depends on how drunk he was I guess
He will apologize - do something nice for the security guard and community and move on to the season
Flames re-sign Tkachuk to 3-year bridge, $7M AAV.
With Point and Tkachuk now signed at or around the $7mil mark, Connor should be pretty close to signing. At less I hope.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 25, 2019, 01:26:35 AM
not sure if it's true but I have been seeing was caught mooning a lady...which is actually kind of funny - dumb but a bit funny...
https://deadspin.com/maple-leafs-auston-matthews-charged-with-disorderly-con-1838423668 (https://deadspin.com/maple-leafs-auston-matthews-charged-with-disorderly-con-1838423668)
Yeah, it?s not actually funny if you are the woman who has PTSD and a group of men are trying to open the door to her vehicle while she is alone...at 2 am. And then one pulls his pants down. This could have gone really ugly and dangerous for her very quickly. On another note, Kyle Dubas and the team found out about the incident on Twitter when the news was broken. Ouch! The golden boy is not so golden anymore.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on September 26, 2019, 11:56:31 AM
Yeah, it?s not actually funny if you are the woman who has PTSD and a group of men are trying to open the door to her vehicle while she is alone...at 2 am. And then one pulls his pants down. This could have gone really ugly and dangerous for her very quickly. On another note, Kyle Dubas and the team found out about the incident on Twitter when the news was broken. Ouch! The golden boy is not so golden anymore.
Definitely true - the entering the car is far more serious than the showing the underwear. Had he just walked by with his pants down likely a non event. Still think it will result in minimal impact to him and the team.
I would say, he will not be the Captain of the leafs.
Evander Kane likely facing a suspension after being ejected from last night?s game vs Vegas for abuse of an official... No word from player safety yet though, so maybe they considered the ejection enough?
3 game suspension for Kane. The guy just can?t seem to grow up and lose the hotheadedness. I really thought going to SJ would help him with that.
But seriously, what an intense rivalry between San Jose and Vegas. Could probably sell out the arena to watch Reaves and Kane go at it...
John T. captain of the Leafs. I like it.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 03, 2019, 01:08:14 AM
John T. captain of the Leafs. I like it.
I hate the Leafs with a passion but I love Tavares.
I can't believe there was talk of anyone but him for the C. The guy is a veteran, one of the best players in the league, a hometown kid who wanted to come home and be 'the guy' there, and is just a super human being.
If I were a Leafs fan, he would be my jersey. Not anyone from the Bratty Bunch.
Habs come back and beat the leafs. Nice win for Montreal.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 06, 2019, 07:52:04 AM
Habs come back and beat the leafs. Nice win for Montreal.
I despise both of those teams but if I had to choose one team to win it?s the Habs. Losses look great on the leafs fans!
Loved Price in the SO.
James Neal, could have an amazing year playing with McDavid.
Ben Chiarot scores for the Habs. He looks good playing with Petry.
The Blues have taken a major hit to their lineup
Tarasenko is having shoulder surgery & he will be updated in 5 months ? WOW
Preds re-sign D Josi to 8-year, $72.47M contract: https://www.tsn.ca/nashville-predators-extend-roman-josi-on-eight-year-deal-1.1389106 (https://www.tsn.ca/nashville-predators-extend-roman-josi-on-eight-year-deal-1.1389106)
Per Pierre LeBrun on Twitter: Year-by-year breakdown of Roman Josi's extension: 2020-21, $11M signing bonus, $750k salary; 2021-22, $10M SB, $750k salary; 2022-23, $8.75M SB, $1M salary; 2023-24, $4M SB, $5M salary; 2024-25, $9M salary; 2025-26, $8M salary; 2026-27, $7.222M salary; 2027-28, $7M salary.
Sid and Nate. Ask the Timbits, is just to funny.
Babcock out in Toronto: https://www.tsn.ca/toronto-maple-leafs-fire-mike-babcock-1.1400977 (https://www.tsn.ca/toronto-maple-leafs-fire-mike-babcock-1.1400977)
Sheldon Keefe takes over in the interim.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 20, 2019, 08:43:29 PM
Babcock out in Toronto: https://www.tsn.ca/toronto-maple-leafs-fire-mike-babcock-1.1400977 (https://www.tsn.ca/toronto-maple-leafs-fire-mike-babcock-1.1400977)
Sheldon Keefe takes over in the interim.
That team is a hot steaming pile of crap
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on November 20, 2019, 09:44:48 PM
That team is a hot steaming pile of crap
Bada bah bah bah...I'm lovin' it!
coach for the Dallas Stars, Montgomery, was fired today ....... not on ice related
Taylor Hall goes to the Coyotes for what will end up being, potentially, 5 players (2 draft choice spots involved) ........ Devils may come out of it in fine shape years later.
............ was sad to see him land in the Jets Conference cuz he will add value & no doubt a few points towards some extra wins
Heard on Tim & Sid
....... that a Leaf fan suggested ....... he may be used later on by the Coyotes, as he is to be a UFA, in trying to pry Phoenix native Austin Matthews .......... hmmmmmm.
CMc97 is just amazing. That goal last night was ridiculous.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 07, 2020, 06:20:29 PM
CMc97 is just amazing. That goal last night was ridiculous.
GOTY for sure. Absolutely incredible.
Preds fire Laviolette? and replace him with Hynes. LOL :D
Pittsburgh is my surprise team so far this year. Malkin out for 13 games, then Sid for 25, and now Guentzel for the rest of the year and they just keep rolling along.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 07, 2020, 08:36:37 PM
Pittsburgh is my surprise team so far this year. Malkin out for 13 games, then Sid for 25, and now Guentzel for the rest of the year and they just keep rolling along.
Classic Pittsburg.
Super annoying. You won 3 cups in less than 9 seasons and 5 in your history (all in the modern era), and have been contenders virtually every season since the Sid and Malkin era began. Just go away already and give someone else a turn.
Guentzel is going to hurt, he was leading the team in goals and points.
Shero dumps the coach in Jersey a month ago & trades Hall to Arizona ........ today he got fired after approx 4 years as GM
I wonder how Matt the turtle's head is feeling today. I was so glad to see someone final punch him out.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 13, 2020, 07:00:37 PM
I wonder how Matt the turtle's head is feeling today. I was so glad to see someone final punch him out.
Clean hit tho
Both hits where charging and one was to the head.
Kassian was so incensed & was on a mission that he definitely completed ......... may get a few games but I loved watching
Kassian cost his team the game and accomplished nothing from it.
On the scoreboard he certainly did cost the team ........ however his selfish "revenge' or whatever might be the named reaction I'm sure behind the scene had his teammates cheering.
Quote from: Colton on January 13, 2020, 10:17:10 PM
Kassian cost his team the game and accomplished nothing from it.
I don't agree, he exposed MT19 for the little B he is. If your going to take runs at players and blind side them, or make contact with the head and the refs are not going to protect you, you have to protect yourself. Kassian is 1 inch taller then MT19, and 9 pounds heavier. If your going to run at people your going to have to fight. It was fun to watch Kassian rag doll MT19 and I am sure many players in the NHL loved it. MT19 is a dirty player that need this.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 13, 2020, 08:27:21 PM
Both hits where charging and one was to the head.
I only saw the one before Kassian went off on him but it most certainly wasn't charging or to the head. Definition of a clean hit to be honest.
Quote from: Colton on January 13, 2020, 10:17:10 PM
Kassian cost his team the game and accomplished nothing from it.
Tkachuk is an agitator but he's also a bit of a coward. Kassian took the bait and he and his team ultimately paid for it, though.
Best way to take an agitator out of the equation is to not take the bait.
Charging is distance travelled to make a violent hit. On both plays he made took more then three strides to make a hit on another player. On both hit the player was engaged with another Flame and was in a vulnerable position.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 14, 2020, 05:06:19 PM
I don't agree, he exposed MT19 for the little B he is. If your going to take runs at players and blind side them, or make contact with the head and the refs are not going to protect you, you have to protect yourself. Kassian is 1 inch taller then MT19, and 9 pounds heavier. If your going to run at people your going to have to fight. It was fun to watch Kassian rag doll MT19 and I am sure many players in the NHL loved it. MT19 is a dirty player that need this.
Everyone already knows the type of player Tkachuk is. Kassian didn't change anything and he lost his team the game in the process. All Kassian did was expose himself as an easy target for Tkachuk for their upcoming matches.
The only positive outcome from Kassian's actions are that he got himself removed from the roster for 2 games, that should help the Oilers a little.
Sid returns to the Penguins lineup with a 4 point night.
Quote from: bluengold204 on January 13, 2020, 08:12:49 PM
Clean hit tho
You?re joking?!?
Both hits were blindside targets to the head that knocked his helmet off. There was nothing clean about it. Tachuck is a total gutless puke?-the new Raffi Torres or Matt Cook. If you?re going to go around head hunting, be a man and go with the guy, not a coward and turtle. His dad must be ashamed of him, dishonouring the family name with trash like this. Play the game with courage and honour for Pete?s sake!!
True, Keith delivered a lot of big hits, he also never turtled or ran away from a fight. You make a mess, you have to clean it up. I also noticed no flames coming to defend him.
Vegas fires their coach and hires Pete Deboer...kind of odd but OK...
Quote from: dd on January 15, 2020, 03:52:52 AM
You?re joking?!?
Both hits were blindside targets to the head that knocked his helmet off. There was nothing clean about it. Tachuck is a total gutless puke?-the new Raffi Torres or Matt Cook. If you?re going to go around head hunting, be a man and go with the guy, not a coward and turtle. His dad must be ashamed of him, dishonouring the family name with trash like this. Play the game with courage and honour for Pete?s sake!!
I didn't see the first hit but the second one was shoulder to shoulder contact. No contact to the head, his helmet pops off yes but just from the force of the hit twisting him around not because he made contact with his head. Not sure how you can think he hit him from the blind side since half his body was in front of Kassian as well. There was a reason the refs didn't call a penalty nor did the league take action afterwards, even the announcers said it was a clean hit.
That is a surprise.
Quote from: The Zipp on January 15, 2020, 03:27:43 PM
Vegas fires their coach and hires Pete Deboer...kind of odd but OK...
Ridiculous. Make the SCF in their first year, earn a divisional playoff spot in their second year, and right in the playoff mix in their third. What could their expectations possibly be?
I hope this blows up in their face and they trend down to the bottom where newbie teams belong while they cut their teeth.
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 15, 2020, 05:53:24 PM
Ridiculous. Make the SCF in their first year, earn a divisional playoff spot in their second year, and right in the playoff mix in their third. What could their expectations possibly be?
I hope this blows up in their face and they trend down to the bottom where newbie teams belong while they cut their teeth.
Claim to not seeing a path to getting better with Gallant...it will be interesting to see what happens...
Quote from: The Zipp on January 15, 2020, 05:55:52 PM
Claim to not seeing a path to getting better with Gallant...it will be interesting to see what happens...
lol. The path is the same as any team who eventually gets good. Scout well, draft well, develop well, fill in the blanks with FAs where possible, and develop a culture that learns how to win and take on some adversity.
An expansion team, no matter the variables given to them that set them up for immediate success, cannot do that in 2.5 seasons.
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 15, 2020, 07:08:57 PM
lol. The path is the same as any team who eventually gets good. Scout well, draft well, develop well, fill in the blanks with FAs where possible, and develop a culture that learns how to win and take on some adversity.
An expansion team, no matter the variables given to them that set them up for immediate success, cannot do that in 2.5 seasons.
I dont disagree was just stating what the team put out...I do wonder if there is more to the story with respect to behaviour, personality, unacceptable conduct etc...we are seeing more and more of this and "hockey culture" has some skeletons - some deep and some shallow...every move like this will be questioned for that aspect, valid or not...
Quote from: The Zipp on January 15, 2020, 08:16:06 PM
I dont disagree was just stating what the team put out...I do wonder if there is more to the story with respect to behaviour, personality, unacceptable conduct etc...we are seeing more and more of this and "hockey culture" has some skeletons - some deep and some shallow...every move like this will be questioned for that aspect, valid or not...
Good point. I always assumed Gerrard was a standup guy but we don't know what goes on off-cam I suppose.
Quote from: bluengold204 on January 15, 2020, 04:12:13 PM
I didn't see the first hit but the second one was shoulder to shoulder contact. No contact to the head, his helmet pops off yes but just from the force of the hit twisting him around not because he made contact with his head. Not sure how you can think he hit him from the blind side since half his body was in front of Kassian as well. There was a reason the refs didn't call a penalty nor did the league take action afterwards, even the announcers said it was a clean hit.
The announcers know sh?t. Listen to James Neal and other plays comments afterwards. Everyone and their brother knows the guy plays like a douche and then he turtles. He?s a gutless coward
The Penguins sure gave up a lot for Zucker. Granted, he's got term left but I'd say the Wild won that trade.
For this season run to the Stanley the Pens easily won the trade ....... Zucker has super speed & Crosby & Malkin will surely help him fill the net
Wild needed to make this happen & their return may look real good in a couple of years ....... cheering for Galchenyuk to have a resurgence in his career.
McDavid is out 2-3 weeks with a quad injury ......... may be, should be, a big big factor in their run to the playoffs.
Galchenyuk has been done for a while now. Dead weight with a big contract.
Boudreau out in Minnesota: https://www.tsn.ca/minnesota-wild-fire-head-coach-bruce-boudreau-1.1442794 (https://www.tsn.ca/minnesota-wild-fire-head-coach-bruce-boudreau-1.1442794)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 14, 2020, 03:16:19 PM
Boudreau out in Minnesota: https://www.tsn.ca/minnesota-wild-fire-head-coach-bruce-boudreau-1.1442794 (https://www.tsn.ca/minnesota-wild-fire-head-coach-bruce-boudreau-1.1442794)
What?!?!
I'm so disappointed.
If only this board could support gifs.
Y'all already know the perfect one for this situation.
Quote from: blue_or_die on February 14, 2020, 04:22:21 PM
If only this board could support gifs.
Y'all already know the perfect one for this situation.
It is literally the perfect one! I tried to post it but the forum wouldn't let me. :(
Wonder if GM Guerin told Boudreaux what pathetic return he might get for Dumba & maybe even moving out Dubnyk & Coach Bruce lost it ............ nah !!
Glad that wasn?t PM being dumped
Really happy for Kovalchuk .... landing in Washington certainly is a win win for team & player
Canes lost Dman Brett Pesce for possibly remainder of season.
Without Hamilton & Pesce is like Buff & Myers not being in our lineup ...... or I guess
currently if we lost Morrissey & Pionk ...... Yikes if your a Cane fan
Ottawa with 13/14 picks in this years draft. That's crazy.
Jacob Markstrom out with torn meniscus. Canucks trade with NJ for goalie Louis Domingue. Canucks goalie Zane McIntye goes to NJ.
That might take weeks/months with or without surgery if quite serious
Markstrom was their MVP
Quote from: Pigskin on February 24, 2020, 07:45:57 PM
Ottawa with 13/14 picks in this years draft. That's crazy.
3 in the top 10
Im not sure if thats good or bad
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 25, 2020, 06:20:08 AM
3 in the top 10
Im not sure if thats good or bad
I would say it's great. Ottawa is a team that won't attract any free agents and it will be hard to re-sign the, what, two players they have who are good when their contracts expire if Ottawa continues to be a joke. Having so many picks lets them do a true draft and develop.
Quote from: blue_or_die on February 25, 2020, 01:24:41 PM
I would say it's great. Ottawa is a team that won't attract any free agents and it will be hard to re-sign the, what, two players they have who are good when their contracts expire if Ottawa continues to be a joke. Having so many picks lets them do a true draft and develop.
Well the kids aint winning a Cup and one day they all need to be payed and we have seen this in ED and now the Leafs.
As much as i believe in draft n develop in this case i may look at making trades. Bring in a solid leader on O and another on the D to help bring in the new.
Jay B0, will sit out the rest of the year. Maybe the end of his hockey playing days. Very sad news for a very good player.
Quote from: New_Earth_Mud on February 25, 2020, 09:12:35 PM
Well the kids aint winning a Cup and one day they all need to be payed and we have seen this in ED and now the Leafs.
As much as i believe in draft n develop in this case i may look at making trades. Bring in a solid leader on O and another on the D to help bring in the new.
If you have several players clearing 10M a year, yeah it's a problem. That won't necessarily be the case, since the draft is a gamble. They might get a top 3 pick who turns out to be decent but not elite and so makes ~5M a year. You might get some gems further down who take 5 years but become stars. Who knows.
The media calling it a "problem" to have lots of picks is silly. They are assets that can be traded if Ottawa wants some help right away, so them having the power to do that will be a big help to digging them out of the basement.
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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2h
#Habs legend Henri Richard has passed at age 84. The "Pocket Rocket" won the #StanleyCup an astounding 11 times, the most of any player in history - and matched Bill Russell for the most in NA major pro sports. He also holds the Montreal franchise record for games played (1,258).
Really a determined, always hustling, player on the ice ........ R I P "Pocket"
NHL cancels all morning skates, announcement coming later today.
Now the on-ice officials have been told to book flights home. I?d say the next thing we will hear is the suspension of the season. Wonder if/when they start it up again if they play out the remaining games? Maybe let each team play to get to a certain game number or go by win percentage? And then the impact this could have on free agency if playoffs extend into summer. Interesting times for sure!
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on March 12, 2020, 02:47:12 PM
Now the on-ice officials have been told to book flights home. I?d say the next thing we will hear is the suspension of the season. Wonder if/when they start it up again if they play out the remaining games? Maybe let each team play to get to a certain game number or go by win percentage? And then the impact this could have on free agency if playoffs extend into summer. Interesting times for sure!
What happens to "game cheques" when there are no games? And do players want to resume a season later with no more game cheques, but with unpaid playoffs? Maybe a reduced playoff format, best of 3 first round, best of 5 second, best of 7 final...
Quote from: theaardvark on March 12, 2020, 03:05:51 PM
What happens to "game cheques" when there are no games? And do players want to resume a season later with no more game cheques, but with unpaid playoffs? Maybe a reduced playoff format, best of 3 first round, best of 5 second, best of 7 final...
Irrelevant right now. Why you are asking such questions on here, anyway?
Quote from: theaardvark on March 12, 2020, 03:05:51 PM
What happens to "game cheques" when there are no games? And do players want to resume a season later with no more game cheques, but with unpaid playoffs? Maybe a reduced playoff format, best of 3 first round, best of 5 second, best of 7 final...
Players get payed.
So, an NCAA type "May Madness"? of the top 24 % winning teams?
I'd rather start with the top 25 teams, top team in each division and the next 3 best records get a first round bye. 18 teams play off based on conference standings top vs. bottom, 2nd vs. 2nd bottom, in best of 3. Balance the conferences with crossover type rules. Gets us to the round of 16-best of 3, round of 8-best of 5, round of 4-best of 5, final-best of 7.
That's pretty optimistic. May is barely a month a month and a half away.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 17, 2020, 05:55:26 PM
So, an NCAA type "May Madness"? of the top 24 % winning teams?
I'd rather start with the top 25 teams, top team in each division and the next 3 best records get a first round bye. 18 teams play off based on conference standings top vs. bottom, 2nd vs. 2nd bottom, in best of 3. Balance the conferences with crossover type rules. Gets us to the round of 16-best of 3, round of 8-best of 5, round of 4-best of 5, final-best of 7.
Play-off aren't happening.
The situation is getting worse, not better. The first NHL player has tested positive.
Sad, Colby Cave passes away at 25.
Much to young & what a rare way to go .........,. terribly unfortunate
So, with revenues in the dumper, and not looking to improve, what happens to the cap? How big is the escrow fund, and how does it work? If revenues drop 30% for the year, do the teams claw back anything from the players contracts? Obviously they will be reduced next year...
https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/why-the-24-team-play-in-tournament-is-the-best-option-if-the-nhl-resumes-the-2019-20-season (https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/why-the-24-team-play-in-tournament-is-the-best-option-if-the-nhl-resumes-the-2019-20-season)
Personally, I think the NHL is done for a while but we shall see what Bettman and co. pull out their rears to keep their sports machine going this year.
Turns out Brendan Leipsic is a real turd: https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/winnipeg-nhl-player-brendan-leipsic-apologizes-after-offensive-conversations-circulate-online-1.4928706 (https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/winnipeg-nhl-player-brendan-leipsic-apologizes-after-offensive-conversations-circulate-online-1.4928706)
Nice feigned apology, too.
Not acceptable
Shocking. All the hockey players I grew up around were always such stand up citizens who would never act misogynistically..
Looks like the Capitals have placed Leipsic on waivers for the purposes of contract termination.
May he never adorn the NHL crest again. Good riddance.
Stupid move on his behalf weather he thought it was private or not. However he made a bone head mistake and will get around chance in the NHL in time. It will be interesting to see where this will go.
AHL officially cancels remainder of 2019-20 season and playoffs. Not sure if or how this could have any effect on the NHL's plans.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 08, 2020, 03:19:31 PM
Looks like the Capitals have placed Leipsic on waivers for the purposes of contract termination.
May he never adorn the NHL crest again. Good riddance.
Hey, the guy made a stupid, childish mistake, everybody does. He shouldn?t be banished from the league, heck, professional sports is full of guys who have raped, physically abused their spouse, routinely cheat o their spouse, do drugs and are alcoholics, the guy deserves a second chance just like everyone else gets to get it right.
Quote from: dd on May 17, 2020, 01:34:24 AM
Hey, the guy made a stupid, childish mistake, everybody does. He shouldn?t be banished from the league, heck, professional sports is full of guys who have raped, physically abused their spouse, routinely cheat o their spouse, do drugs and are alcoholics, the guy deserves a second chance just like everyone else gets to get it right.
If he worked in any other field, he would, in all likelihood, be fired. People who take advantage of and ridicule/insult/demean other people deserve to get canned. Calling it a "stupid, childish mistake" is minimizing and close to excusing his statements. He deserved precisely what he got.
I m not excusing it but just saying that he probably said a few things in private that he never would have said had he known it was going to go public?we all have. Is it right, no, but I m not going to go over the top and hang a guy for something just about everybody has done. That would be hypocritical.
Well, I sure hope it's not something "just about every other guy has done."
You sound like Trump!
I'm a woman btw... but I would give this player another chance after a 1-yr suspension
and sensitivity training. He's not a 13-yr old, but acted like one. You want players on a team
who are men, not boys.
It's possible he'll be made the scapegoat and be blacklisted. Maybe it will take this kind of a severe
deterrent (the loss of a career worth millions) to get future NHL players to behave?
Quote from: In Motion on May 18, 2020, 01:02:18 AM
Well, I sure hope it's not something "just about every other guy has done."
You sound like Trump!
I'm a woman btw... but I would give this player another chance after a 1-yr suspension
and sensitivity training. He's not a 13-yr old, but acted like one. You want players on a team
who are men, not boys.
It's possible he'll be made the scapegoat and be blacklisted. Maybe it will take this kind of a severe
deterrent (the loss of a career worth millions) to get future NHL players to behave?
I never said ?just about every Other guy has said? you did, I said everyone one has done, meaning both men and women. Just look in website forums how brutal people are with one another under the cloak of anonymity. Cyber Keyboard Cowards are all of a sudden ruthless?Heck, just look at this forum. Posters just slam others and are just as bad if not worse than what he said. Not saying it?s right but this goes on all the time, it?s only because he?s a pro hockey player that people are going nuts. And his indiscretion is hardly worthy of suspension. He hasn?t physically assaulted anyone, didn?t drive drinking kill anyone , isn?t doing or selling drugs, etc. It wasn?t that long ago that pro athletes were drunk or high driving get caught and walked away as if nothing happened. Now a guy gets caught in a private cyber conversation and we want to suspend him. Get serious .
Quote from: dd on May 17, 2020, 03:09:17 PM
I m not excusing it but just saying that he probably said a few things in private that he never would have said had he known it was going to go public?we all have. Is it right, no, but I m not going to go over the top and hang a guy for something just about everybody has done. That would be hypocritical.
He treats women the same way in public as well.
I suspected that, but didn?t know for sure. Pro athletes live in a different world?they are coddled their whole life, worshipped and adored by fans , paid millions to play a stupid game, and then they get ?lost? in their big league lives, think their something special/better than everyone else. People expecting them to play by us common folk rules are dreaming in technicolor. I hope the team holds him accountable-professionals should act like professionals . I ve never heard of this guy before he did this so he may not be worth the trouble.
Quote from: dd on May 18, 2020, 03:20:25 AM
I never said ?just about every Other guy has said? you did, I said everyone one has done, meaning both men and women. Just look in website forums how brutal people are with one another under the cloak of anonymity. Cyber Keyboard Cowards are all of a sudden ruthless?Heck, just look at this forum. Posters just slam others and are just as bad if not worse than what he said. Not saying it?s right but this goes on all the time, it?s only because he?s a pro hockey player that people are going nuts. And his indiscretion is hardly worthy of suspension. He hasn?t physically assaulted anyone, didn?t drive drinking kill anyone , isn?t doing or selling drugs, etc. It wasn?t that long ago that pro athletes were drunk or high driving get caught and walked away as if nothing happened. Now a guy gets caught in a private cyber conversation and we want to suspend him. Get serious .
I agree with you he shouldn't be kicked off the team or blacklisted. A suspension/fine seems like a worthy punishment, dunno if I would go a whole season as someone suggested but at least 10 games. Unfortuately the fact of the matter is he is a fringe player that the Caps can do without so they took the easy public appeasing route and put him on waivers. I doubt any other team will pick them up due to the bad publicity, but I would wager good money if this kid was an upper echelon talent he would have faced a far less severe punishment.
I am hearing July 10th for the re-start of the NHL. At least there TC. In my mind this is pushing it a little to far. Call it a year already.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 02, 2020, 02:05:30 PM
I am hearing July 10th for the re-start of the NHL. At least there TC. In my mind this is pushing it a little to far. Call it a year already.
I heard something similar with the desired range being July 10-15. But that's probably just rumour for now.
Hockey in July and August seems dumb to me. Especially right now when I don't think a lot of people, hockey fans or otherwise, want to spend the summer indoors.
I think a lot of the players are starting to think cabin, fishing, family.
Well it's not a rumor, July 11 is the date the NHL would like to start up TC. Now I will be interesting to see how there going to make this work?
I hate to say this but I have lost interest in hockey. Jet's or not.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 03, 2020, 03:24:34 PM
I hate to say this but I have lost interest in hockey. Jet's or not.
It?s going to be hard to get it up for hockey in the middle of summer. I mean, I?ll watch the Jets games to be sure but it?s going to be weeeiiirrrddd
https://www.tsn.ca/pittsburgh-penguins-sideline-9-players-after-potential-secondary-exposure-to-covid-19-1.1494918 (https://www.tsn.ca/pittsburgh-penguins-sideline-9-players-after-potential-secondary-exposure-to-covid-19-1.1494918)
Quote
The Pittsburgh Penguins announced Monday that the team will be voluntarily sidelining nine players from their training camp roster due to potential secondary exposure to an individual who had contact with a person that has tested positive for the COVID-19 virus.
The team learned of the possible secondary exposure on Sunday and added the decision was made to sideline the players out of abundance of caution in an effort to avoid exposure to anyone else within the organization.
The nine players will re-join the team when it is deemed safe to do so in accordance with NHL protocol and further test results.
Release the Kraken:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhls-seattle-team-called-kraken/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhls-seattle-team-called-kraken/)
Just saw that the new NHL team for 2021 season in Seattle will have the Kraken as their nickname
Like the name, Norse sea monster from folk lore, saw a smidgeon of the dark jersey colors ..... think they are both choices that their fans will really enjoy.
Well the Jet's are locked down in Edmonton at Hub City. It's going to be interesting to see how this all works out.
Nice win by Montreal. Big Ben and Weber look very good. The Jet's could us Big Ben right now.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 06, 2020, 03:23:26 AM
Nice win by Montreal. Big Ben and Weber look very good. The Jet's could us Big Ben right now.
I was a big Chiarot fan and never wanted him to leave.
Quote from: blue_or_die on August 06, 2020, 12:59:22 PM
I was a big Chiarot fan and never wanted him to leave.
Quite agree big time
Quote from: blue_or_die on August 06, 2020, 12:59:22 PM
I was a big Chiarot fan and never wanted him to leave.
It's a shame Cheveldayoff didn't just match the Habs' offer and retain him. The Jets needed that grit on the blue line.
Seeing Edmonton, Nashville and especially, ESPECIALLY Toronto eliminated in the qualifying round provides some solace after the Jets' early exit.
Seeing Montreal move on is a joke and a half, although it would be hilarious if they went all the way.
Panthers can GM Tallon: https://www.tsn.ca/florida-panthers-part-ways-with-gm-dale-tallon-1.1506883 (https://www.tsn.ca/florida-panthers-part-ways-with-gm-dale-tallon-1.1506883)
Montreal has a pretty good D. No scoring but D keeps them in a lot of games. Go Habs.
Should Kyle Dubas be fired. The leaf's are just not a good team.
AL to the Rangers. 1st overall this year, 2nd. overall last year. Nice for the Rangers.
Blue Jackets and Lighting going into the 5th OT. This is really screwing up the next game.
Carolina and Boston has been cancelled.
That was a crazy game between the Bolts and the Jackets. Korpisalo absolutely crushed the previous record of saves made in a playoff game with 85 (the previous was Hrudey back in 1987).
I agree on the crazy side. I was wondering if Korpisalo lost concentration for for a second when his D man was hit with the puck was injured. Points shoot was off his back foot and mostly just directing the shot to the net. The shoot was well place, but there was no screen in front. Or was he just so tired he couldn't raise his arm that last time.
really was an exceptional viewing experience last night ......... Korps deserved a better fate but YAY the Bolts won
I thought Montreal played a very good game tonight. To bad they don't have guy's that can score.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 07, 2020, 02:24:31 AM
It's a shame Cheveldayoff didn't just match the Habs' offer and retain him. The Jets needed that grit on the blue line.
good player but too $$$
Wow, some of the NBC hockey reports think the Jet's should have taken PLD Pierre Luc- Dudois before PL29. ???
Karma is a B. Chucky (MT19) has a leg injury. I love it.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 14, 2020, 03:34:16 AM
Karma is a B. Chucky (MT19) has a leg injury. I love it.
hopefully he is done the dirt bag.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 14, 2020, 03:34:16 AM
Karma is a B. Chucky (MT19) has a leg injury. I love it.
I always tell myself that it's wrong to cheer for a player I dislike to get injured.
So I'll just shut up about my feelings on this ;D
Karma is a stone cold mistress. Glad it paid that clown a visit. Flames lost, too, which is icing on that cake. ;D
Leg injury, and it looks like a concussion.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 14, 2020, 03:34:16 AM
Karma is a B. Chucky (MT19) has a leg injury. I love it.
Taking joy in someones misery isn't right no matter how you spin it.
If you don't like it , move on. We have a right to our opinion.
Habs HC Claude Julien has returned to Montreal following a stenting of a coronary artery. He won't return to the Toronto hub for the remainder of the NHL playoffs.
Speedy recovery, Coach!
Claude finally had the Habs healthy and playing some good hockey.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 14, 2020, 03:15:18 PM
Habs HC Claude Julien has returned to Montreal following a stenting of a coronary artery. He won't return to the Toronto hub for the remainder of the NHL playoffs.
Speedy recovery, Coach!
X 2
1-0 Montreal nice quick start.
2-0 Montreal, way to fast for the Flyers right now.
5-0 Montreal, to much speed for the flyers tonight.
Canadian teams looking good
Quote from: blue_or_die on August 14, 2020, 12:01:30 PM
I always tell myself that it's wrong to cheer for a player I dislike to get injured.
So I'll just shut up about my feelings on this ;D
That's ok, I'll cheer for you. That douche bag can't get hurt enough for me!!!!
I hope he's out for the rest of the year.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 15, 2020, 04:28:27 AM
I hope he's out for the rest of the year.
He's out for game 3 but it sounds like he could be back for the next game.
In any case, karma is stone cold. And it caught up to him.
Rask leave the bubble and goes home. I think life in the bubble could be pretty tough on some players.
I don't know how you can quit on your team and expect to ever enter the dressing room again. Ridiculous. He's done in Boston, done.
Quote from: dd on August 21, 2020, 03:35:38 AM
I don't know how you can quit on your team and expect to ever enter the dressing room again. Ridiculous. He's done in Boston, done.
Apparently one of his daughters had a medical issue and he made the right choice.
Quote from: 4everalonghair on August 21, 2020, 03:47:21 AM
Apparently one of his daughters had a medical issue and he made the right choice.
Agree made a great choice, health and family over sports. DD you need to have more compansion. He is not done in Boston, not done lol.
We ll see. He was mediocre at best in the playoffs and they have younger, cheaper and better talent on their bench right now. I still say he?s done.
Quote from: dd on August 22, 2020, 03:05:00 AM
We ll see. He was mediocre at best in the playoffs and they have younger, cheaper and better talent on their bench right now. I still say he?s done.
Mediocre? He didn't even play in the playoffs, just the round robin which determined seeding.
Who's younger, cheaper, and better on their bench right now?
The organization supports his decision and respects it. Your lack of empathy is embarrassing.
I'd go with Halak and his $2.5 mil salary and let Rask and his $7.5 mil walk
Who will be the next coach of the Capitals.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 24, 2020, 04:45:40 AM
Who will be the next coach of the Capitals.
My money is on Gallant.
I will go with Mike Babcock.
cheering for Gallant to land the Cap gig.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 24, 2020, 07:28:52 PM
I will go with Mike Babcock.
I'm curious where he goes career-wise from here. I feel like his old school approach is a dying method in today's NHL.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 24, 2020, 08:01:57 PM
I'm curious where he goes career-wise from here. I feel like his old school approach is a dying method in today's NHL.
I think he probably enough money to ride off into the sunset. Maybe coach team Canada in some of the lesser events. Babcock signed an 8 year deal back in 2015 for 6.25M per. He mite be happy to just relax and collect his 6.25M.
I wouldn?t blame him in the least. He got hung out to dry by the cry baby maple loafs. Turns out it wasn?t the coach afterall, Scotty bowman ? an old schooler himself, couldn?t turn the loafs around.
Love to see NYI and the Canucks in the Cup finals.
Nice to see how well Zach Whitecloud is playing. Brandon kid that looks like a good one.
Vancouver stay alive to play another day. Wasn't pretty, but a win is a win.
Montreal trades for Jake Allen, over 14 million in goalies next year. Not sure what there thinking. How about some goal scoring.
Nice to see Hutchinson playing so well for Colorado.
Vegas has looked very flat the last two games.
Count me not disappointed the Canucks lost. Sorry, but that's the way it is for me. ;) :D
Islanders got slaughtered tonight. Yeesh.
NY looked very slow the whole game. The need a couple of days off.
The Bolts were on top of their game ...... controlled the boards, caused turnovers & moved the puck to offense quickly & their Stars were tremendous at finishing
Anyone else quietly impressed with Devon Toews of the Isles during the playoffs ? The 26 yr old, LD will become an RFA
Heart breaker for NY tonight. I thought they played a very good game tonight.
Dallas is playing some good hockey.
Huh there is hockey still. Man I don?t care at all.
Right now in order:
1- Raptors
2- Blue Jays
3- Hockey
4- NFL
5- Tennis/Golf
Islanders on the ropes and the Stars could be moving on to the SCF with a win tonight. It'd be nice to see the Knights get booted.
Sin City Choke! ;D
It was fun to watch Vegas lose.
Brother in law is a Stars fan so I've been happy for him that he has someone to cheer for.
I felt like the Stars just out played the Knights.
Nice to see former Winnipeg Jets player and coach Rick Bowness having some success.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Bowness#Junior_hockey
Tampa is missing some scoring right now and it is showing. But with that said you have to love how NY plays D.
Sounds like the Wild mite be going after Buff hard over the next few weeks. I wonder if he is really done.
I have to question Montreal's thinking. 4.5M on a backup goalie, and another 3.5M on another D man. However scoring is there biggest problem.
Lighting - Stars for the Stanley Cup.
Quote from: Pigskin on September 18, 2020, 03:13:53 AM
Lighting - Stars for the Stanley Cup.
Go Lightning I guess. F?? Corey Perry.
The Lighting should have the edge.
Quote from: Pigskin on September 18, 2020, 02:59:21 PM
The Lighting should have the edge.
Yeah I agree. I
t's a skill team vs. a grit team IMO.
Game 1 tonight. Should a good battle.
Thinking Dallas has some luck to go along with their hard work & take a surprise 1st game win ......... 4-3
Dallas played another very good game. What a Maroon, Pat Maroon shooting a puck at the Dallas bench on purpose.
Quote from: Pigskin on September 20, 2020, 03:37:39 AM
Dallas played another very good game. What a Maroon, Pat Maroon shooting a puck at the Dallas bench on purpose.
Should have been kicked out
Ugly first period really hooped the Stars in game 2. With the series tied up, it should be another good game tonight!
Montreal extends Jeff Petry for 4 more years. I am hearing 6.25M per.
Great OT victory for the Bolts last night. After a lucky shoot & score 1st period for Dallas, man oh man the overall game became a treat to watch ..... hopefully Tampa wraps it up tonight
Quote from: Jockitch on September 26, 2020, 02:09:16 PM
Great OT victory for the Bolts last night. After a lucky shoot & score 1st period for Dallas, man oh man the overall game became a treat to watch ..... hopefully Tampa wraps it up tonight
Thanks for mentioning it's on tonight- I assumed they would get a night off but I guess the NHL doesn't want to compete with Sunday Night Football.
Got to love the fight in Dallas. Corey Perry had a very good game.
Darn, darn Dallas but kudos to Perry
Rangers dump a contract, Marc Staal & a draft pick next year to Detroit for Future Con
Do they want the money for Dman DeAngelo or will they go after Laine
And the Bolts close out the series with a 2-0 shutout win. Hedman gets the Conn Smythe.
End to a super weird year.
The tournament went fast. Feels like we were just gearing up to see the Jets make a summer run. Good riddance to the 2020 season!
The best team won, and the NHL did it all under two bubbles with no cases of Covid. 33,000 tests.
Who won? lol, who cares? Not me really. Could be the endless offseason for a while now...
NHL draft starts on Oct 6th. and FA on Oct 9th.
Domi for Anderson, Montreal needed the size. Anderson is a big strong forward.
Anderson signs a 7 year deal with Montreal for 5.5 M per.
Bobby Ryan signs a one year deal with the Red Wings. Nice, to see get another chance.
Goalie's moving all over the place.
Anderson now with the Habs & Domi with the Blue Jackets certainly faired really well $$ wise
Cody Eakin signs a 2 year deal with Buffalo for $2.25M per.
Montreal picks up Toffoli. Nice pickup for Montreal.
Bergivin did well to get Toff ................... now the big news coming out is that Vegas is signing Pietrangelo for 7 yrs at $8.8M per
Seems to me Vegas is going to dump contracts to get under the Cap
Bergivin has add some nice pieces to the Montreal in the last couple of weeks. He also improved team size and toughness.
On overdrive today they were talking about an all Canadian division this up coming year.
Also with the NHL not starting until January, it could a very good World Juniors this year. Again if there is one. Lafreniere, Byfield, Perfetti, Drysdale.
Montreal signs Brendan Gallagher for 6 more year at 6.5 M per.
Montreal extends Jake Allen for 2 more years at 2.875M per. Lindgren, Primeau, and McNiven, are going to have to wait awhile now.
I heard a report on TSN that the NHL bubbles estimated at $75-$90M. The NBA $170-$175M.
Extra cost for long beds ........ bad humour
Boston?s Pastrnak & Marchand had surgeries & won?t be available if Jan 1 was start up
Ottawa picks up Dadonov for 3 years at $5M per. Nice pickup for Ottawa.
Leaf's 4th line. Simmonds, Thornton, Spezza.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 16, 2020, 09:07:22 PM
Leaf's 4th line. Simmonds, Thornton, Spezza.
That's a nice line at the price but they're all past their prime. Dubas' poor cap management is proving costly to get depth on that roster.
Load management for all of them.
Kulikov takes 1.15M on a one years deal with the Devil's. Big pay cut for him.
Joey Moss passes away at the age of 57. Sad news for both Oilers and the Edmonton football club.
Devon Toews signs a 4 year deal with the Colorado for 16.4M. Avs should be pretty solid again this year.
Arbitrator awarded Detroit's Bertuzzi $3.5M ........ he would really look good in a Jet uni Chevy
Send Roslovic & Niku to the Wings for Bertuzzi & a 3rd pick.
I like Tyler, but we need D-men.
I suggested the trade as Detroit is in even worse shape on D, so perhaps they would jump for a young Sami ::)
Well it's a nice dream.
AHL starting February??? That's crazy.
Galchenyuk signs with Ottawa for 1.05M. I am very surprised with this signing.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 29, 2020, 01:38:37 PM
Galchenyuk signs with Ottawa for 1.05M. I am very surprised with this signing.
What a fall from grace. I remember when he was touted to be the guy in Montreal. Now he's a late and near-league min salary depth player.
That draft year has been terrible. The first 4 picks have been garbage.
Noted that definitely a few disappointments in the Draft of 2012.
However 25 of the 30 picks in the 1st Rd played at least a game in the NHL this past season
The Jets got Trouba & Hellebuyck while their other 4 picks were Pathetic. One player got 8 games in the show while their 2nd Rd selection & others never played a single game.
Noted Vasilevsky went 19th, Parayko went in 3rd Rd while Slavin went in 8th Rd.
Bummer Chevy on missing 2 extremely good Dmen as examples
I am not talking about the Jet's.
1- Yakupov
2- Murray
3- Galchenyuk
4- Reinhart
This is a little sad to hear. The Oilers have a long overdue bill with The Crescent Court Hotel in Dallas of $56,000 dating back to December 2019, and March 2020.
Sounds like the NHL is pounding out a deal. 60 games schedule, 3 American division, and 1 Canadian division. Looks like the players mite have to take a little pay cut. I know a lot of people don't like Gary Bettman, but he gets stuff done.
Lundquist out for the season with a heart condition.
NHL might pull Canadian teams out of Canada and into the US because of our restrictions on traveling..
Is there any Province to Province travel restrictions right now? On Overdrive today they said it had more to do with the number of people that can gather. However the World Junior's is going to happen in the Edmonton over Christmas, and right now Alberta is crazy with Covid. One thing is for sure, The NHL will not start on January 13th, 2021. Alexis could have players for Canada.
I thought Alexis wasn't playing for Canada because the Rangers wanted him getting used to their system.
Professional athletes and team members (players, coaches, managers, training and technical staff and medical personnel) employed by or affiliated with a professional sports team from Manitoba are also exempt from the self-isolation requirements as well as film production crew members (cast and crew) if they are not displaying any symptoms of COVID-19.
So I read that as the other teams have to hole up for 14 days coming to Manitoba as they aren't a part of the Jets. No?
Looks like 8 players from Germany have tested positive for Covid after entering the bubble in Edmonton.
Sounds like the NHL will start on January 13th and run until May 8th. Short training camp.
All-Canadian North Division. Should be fun!
As much as I like the All-Canadian Division, it could get boring very quickly. It also could get very nasty, which would be funny to watch.
Kucherov & his $9.5M are on LTIR & out for regular season ...... Cernak & Cirelli freshly inked ........ Tampa still needs to make a move or two for Cap compliance
Sure hope no Canadian Div. team swoops in & strengthens their roster due to Tampa's need to move $$.
Wow, the Blackhawks will be without Dach and Nylander the entire season, and now Jonathan Toews will not be joining them for TP.
Chara now with Washington. Bruins said no thank you.
Every Canadian team has now been given permission to play home games.
Wow, Covid already affecting the NHL. Dallas will start a few days later due to players having Covid. The Blue Jackets did not have enough players to scrimmage today.
Montreal's Taxi Squad: Perry, Frolik, Poehling, Fleury, Lindgren.
27 players have already tested positive for Covid.
Montreal/Toronto: This wasn't a bad game. Both teams looked out of gas late in the third.
Van/Edmonton: Van looked much better then the Oilers. Oilers still need D.
Really felt both games had some okay play but the tempo was mostly ragged for all 4 clubs ....... however, do believe the Habs just may be a big winner this year
Quote from: Jockitch on January 14, 2021, 10:32:48 PM
Really felt both games had some okay play but the tempo was mostly ragged for all 4 clubs ....... however, do believe the Habs just may be a big winner this year
What is all this Montreal hype based on? They did literally nothing last year and then lost the only game they played this year. I don?t understand why so many are christening them the division winners.
Ottawa B slaps the Leaf's. Didn't see that coming.
Montreal's D is so good. Big Strong and skilled. Also having a backup like Jake Allen doesn't hurt.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 19, 2021, 04:14:01 AM
Montreal's D is so good. Big Strong and skilled. Also having a backup like Jake Allen doesn't hurt.
X 2
OV and a group of Capitals out due to Covid.
Great opportunity for the Sabres to win tonight
Washington fined $100,000 for covid violations.
Sabres lost, Caps won on the ice but apparently $100k lighter ? excellent
Does Matthew Tkachuk BS take away from his game?
Montreal is looking very good so far this season. Big Ben taking out Tkachuk last night was nice to see. Miss Big Ben on our D.
PL could be in the Blue Jackets line up as early as Sunday. Rumored center Max Domi.
Gritty winger, Sam Bennett wants out of Calgary.
Really hasn't met expectations for the 4th overall pick in 2014 ---- isn't expensive ----- change of scenery needed indeed ....... Detroit might use him
Montreal looked pretty good again last night.
Shea Weber will play his 1000th. game tonight. What a trade that was for Montreal.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 02, 2021, 10:06:01 PM
Shea Weber will play his 1000th. game tonight. What a trade that was for Montreal.
That sure wasn?t the narrative at the time.
Montreal's FA signings in the off season working out very well.
PL29 -2, no points, 2 PIM. 20.54
JR96 -1, 1A, 16.47.
PL29 1G on 1 shot.
JR96 1G 1A on 2 shots.
Wow, some of the NHL teams in the US are a mess. Lot's of games postponed.
PL29 benched by JT after three games. This isn't going to end well.
Oh gosh this is a big shock to Laine?s agents no doubt
So, PL29 wants to be on the top line... and gets his wish in Columbus... with thier top centre.... Jack Rosolovic...
Nice upgrade with contract coming up...
Laine benched not for his defensive lapse, but for disrespecting a coach... more insight into why PLD13 may be > PL29 from a team perspective...
PL29 is a very good player, but he need an attitude check. I know people that said Big Buff couldn't stand PL29.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 10, 2021, 04:05:07 PM
PL29 is a very good player, but he need an attitude check. I know people that said Big Buff couldn't stand PL29.
Really? I had never heard that... but it would make sense... if PL29 was any part of Buff's not returning, I will move to hating him. We moved Kane... but CHevy had no option to move PL29 early on... so if he had to decide between an aging /injured 33 and franchise future 29, I can see the decision. But I hate it...
Byfuglien retiring was due to compounding injury issues. Let's not make this into something it isn't.
Laine does need an attitude adjustment, though. Maybe getting benched for a period will help in that regard.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 10, 2021, 09:31:27 PM
Byfuglien retiring was due to compounding injury issues. Let's not make this into something it isn't.
Laine does need an attitude adjustment, though. Maybe getting benched for a period will help in that regard.
Does Laine get paid the same amount sitting on the bench, or in the pressbox?
He knows that getting a bad reputation for being a problem child might hurt his value, and he's playing right now for THE contract, the 7 year / max value deal... that he might not get if he is deemed a problem...
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 10, 2021, 09:31:27 PM
Byfuglien retiring was due to compounding injury issues. Let's not make this into something it isn't.
Laine does need an attitude adjustment, though. Maybe getting benched for a period will help in that regard.
I don't think anyone has said that Buff retired because of PL29. He just didn't like him, and his attitude.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 11, 2021, 03:17:31 AM
I don't think anyone has said that Buff retired because of LP29. He just didn't like him, and his attitude.
Aardsy speculated on it with the what if and then mentioned Kane for some reason. The two (#29 and #33) were never at odds in some meaningful way and Byfuglien's never stated he dislikes Laine. The two were teammates for three seasons, enjoyed some pretty consistent success together during that time, and the "worst" we ever saw was a single incident where Byfuglien yelled at Laine on the ice when the latter appeared to be dogging it on a shift. A singular event is not at all indicative of a pattern. Not even a rumour existed of the sort during that timeframe.
Dustin Byfuglien was clearly conflicted when weighing his options after the 2018-19 season, dealing with lingering injury issues. It put the organization in a tough spot and the situation was not good for either party in how it played out, but it is what it is. He put his quality of life and his future at the forefront of his decision but there is nothing to suggest his departure was due to another teammate or locker room culture issue. And while I'm sure it stung for his teammates and his coaches, I have seen nothing to indicate there's any bad blood remaining.
As for the young Finn, the Jets didn't move Laine for being a locker room problem, IMO. He was moved because of the potential cap implications for his upcoming contract (which is something I don't think the Jets could afford), as well as his wanting a bigger role as a top line forward. Despite the team giving him ample opportunity to have that and more importantly earn it, it never materialized. His analytics with Scheifele were mediocre at best and his defensive game is still lacking. I don't think the organization planned to move him as quickly as it did but with the off-season grumblings from his agent and the Dubois situation being exacerbated in Columbus, the two teams were able to work out a trade while also including Roslovic, who was sitting out for his own reasons. I don't really see a rationale in going down a rabbit hole for hidden meaning behind this trade; it just happened to fill a respective need for both teams while also squashing any rumours (even if it created more ridiculous ones at the time of the trade).
This trade works out well for the Jets even if losing Laine means less firepower on the wing going forward. When I woke up to the news on that Saturday morning a few weeks ago, I was sad and disappointed at first. Laine has been a blast to watch as a Jet and he seemed to be progressing in a positive way. But as the reality sunk in, I also came to realize the best teams in the NHL have depth down the middle and the addition of Dubois as a 2C addresses that need, what with the decline and then the outright loss of Little on the second line. Scheifele and Dubois make a pretty strong tandem in the top 6, while also taking pressure off an aging Stastny. This also lets the team roll 4 solid lines. To sum it up, the trade checks off more boxes than not.
I still look forward to seeing Laine progress in the NHL, regardless of the team. He's a fun player to watch and has the potential to a lethal offensive presence for a long time. He just needs to keep maturing while being mindful of the fact nothing is given in the NHL.
Edmonton/Montreal game pushed back one hour due to Edmonton going through Covid protocol.
Overdrive reporting Jesse Puljujarvi has entered covid protocol.
Lafreniere 1G in 12 games. I know the rangers are pretty crappy, but 1 point. I am a little shocked.
PL29 was fighting again last night. Got hit with one big bomb and down he went. He really should stay away from the fighting.
I was shocked to see that Trouba has only 2 points in 13 games.
Talk about choking. The Maples had a 5-1 lead, and lost 6-5 in OT.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 16, 2021, 06:34:01 PM
Talk about choking. The Maples had a 5-1 lead, and lost 6-5 in OT.
It never gets old watching the Leafs lose. ;D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 17, 2021, 02:04:12 AM
It never gets old watching the Leafs lose. ;D
Only thing that would have made that result better would have been an Ottawa buzzer-beater to deny the Laughs of their loser point.
We watched Av's and Knights last night. Two very good teams. Byram looked very good for the Av's. Knights gold helmets have to go.
Quote from: blue_or_die on February 17, 2021, 02:25:02 PM
Only thing that would have made that result better would have been an Ottawa buzzer-beater to deny the Laughs of their loser point.
Yeah, kinda like what they did to the Jets on Saturday. :'(
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 17, 2021, 07:31:15 PM
Yeah, kinda like what they did to the Jets on Saturday. :'(
And Calgary last Tuesday, and Edmonton a few weeks before. Still not over that last one especially :'(
Sidney Crosby will play in his 1000th NHL games tonight. What an amazing player. At 33 he has 1276 points.
PL29 and JR, both a -2 and no points last night.
Sid 2 points in his 1000th game.
My gosh ...... felt the NBC presentation of the Lake Tahoe game was fabulous
Really was an incredible setting & the camera work was superior to anything I have seen in hockey.
Despite the disappointment in the suspension of the game ...... the continuation was worth the wait.
I don't get why the NHL thought having a matinee game would be viable. Just seems like poor scheduling.
But that game at night was pretty phenomenal to watch. I'd love to see a similar game in Banff or somewhere else in the Rockies.
Habs have fired HC Julien and AHC Muller: https://www.tsn.ca/montreal-canadiens-fire-claude-julien-appoint-dominique-ducharme-interim-head-coach-1.1598262 (https://www.tsn.ca/montreal-canadiens-fire-claude-julien-appoint-dominique-ducharme-interim-head-coach-1.1598262)
Carey Price has not been at his best a few times this year, and let in a few soft goals. There goal scoring has dropped off, and they take way to many penalties. But it's always best to fire the coach first.
Definitely tough love for coach Claude & asst. Muller
Hope the Jets can deal with the wounded Habs, ice effort tomorrow
Montreal fires long time goaltending coach, Waite after Price makes 32 saves in a 3-1 win over Ottawa.
WOW, the Oilers are really playing terrible hockey.
Vancouver shuts down the Leaf's. Nice.
Ward out, Sutter back in Calgary
That's 4 coaches fired by Treliving in the past 5 seasons .......... what's the common thread
Brent Seabrook retires at 35 due to injuries.
Have been having trouble tracking the taxi squad transactions. and found this TSN link, which seems to be fairly current:
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/transactions
Just watched the Tom Wilson hit. This is a repeat offender that needs another multi game suspension.
Wilson gets 7 games suspension for boarding. Nice, I like it.
Very pleased that the idiot cheap shot Wilson got hit tough
Canadian teams will be at a disadvantage when it come to trades at the dead line. Kind of crappy, but that's Covid.
Evander Kane, bankrupt. Crazy for a young guy still making millions. Looks like his gambling issues have caught up with him.
Yes a real disadvantage in the trade scenario.
Gotta hope for some great twist in gov,t rules, cuz that 14 days is terrible late in season
Trade Bait is out on TSN ..... how, when & does Chevy make a change
Quote from: Jockitch on March 11, 2021, 04:58:10 PM
Yes a real disadvantage in the trade scenario.
Gotta hope for some great twist in gov,t rules, cuz that 14 days is terrible late in season
Trade Bait is out on TSN ..... how, when & does Chevy make a change
There will be no change to the border crossing rules for awhile yet.
PL29 has no points in the last 7 games. wow.
PL29 with 2 points tonight, but goes -2.
Laine gets a goal on the PP plus an assist, gets benched for the majority of 3rd & OT and vents to the media after
Ben Chiarot breaks his hand in a fight the other night against JT Miller.
Quite sad for Chiarot ...... but with upcoming 2 game series with Habs starting Monday ........ it becomes a "break" for the Jets
It's a two horse race in the North Division. Winnipeg, and Toronto, are head and shoulders above the other teams in this division. Edmonton has some talent, but not enough depth. There goaltending is also ?????? at times.
Buffalo fires there coach. This should have been a much better team then they are.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 17, 2021, 07:14:51 PM
Buffalo fires there coach. This should have been a much better team then they are.
Midway through the season, I can't expect this to change anything for the Sabres. Management and ownership seem to be issues, too.
Montreal is 0-9 in OT this year.
OMG, Montreal win in OT.
Montreal and Edmonton postponed. Montreal with a possible two Covid cases.
Montreal has been shut down until at least Sunday.
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-trade-deadline-lessen-quarantine-7-days-1.5964064 (https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-trade-deadline-lessen-quarantine-7-days-1.5964064)
Federal gov't plan to announce changing quarantine from 14 to 7 days for players coming from the US. It sounds like the plan is to be in place prior to the April 12th TDL.
This is good news.
I don't think JR96 and PL29, are having a lot of fun in Columbus.
Roslovic is in the 30% range in faceoff wins & Torts keeps letting him practice at them
Thinking Columbus .... heck I believe I?m finished guessing what their mgt. will do
Laine can?t expect a bump in salary with the proof showing he needs a setup man or bust
Montreal trades for Eric Staal.
I see Jackson Keane, Mike Keane's son is playing for UND.
Caufield signs with Montreal.
Lemieux goes from Rangers to the Kings for a 4th Rd pick
Wolanin to LA for Amadio.
Flyers placed D Gostisbehere on waivers today.
Add Holden and O'Brien to the waiver list.
Montreal 4-0 over the Oilers.
McDavid gets nothing more than a fine for his elbow on Kotkaniemi last night. DOPs poops the bed again.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 31, 2021, 05:58:16 PM
McDavid gets nothing more than a fine for his elbow on Kotkaniemi last night. DOPs poops the bed again.
Yes, that was a pretty dirty play.
PL29 is really having a tough time with the Blue Jackets. Really tough to see a talent like him struggle.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 31, 2021, 06:20:49 PM
PL29 is really having a tough time with the Blue Jackets. Really tough to see a talent like him struggle.
It's almost as if Tortorella's coaching style is from a bygone - or soon to be bygone - era.
Vancouver and Calgary postponed. Not surprised with what's going on in BC. Over 1,000 cases of Covid today.
Hottest teams in the NHL right now Predators 6 game winning streak. Penguins have a 5 game, and the Panthers a 4 game.
Preds lost last night but overall are definitely in the hunt for a playoff spot
Canucks are in trouble. 8 players and one staff person have tested positive for COVID. No games until at least April 8th.
BC as a whole is struggling with covid right now.
PL29, 1 goal in his last 18 games. wow.
Canuck woes continue. Unofficial COVID number pushing 20 including affected players and 3 unnamed coaches.
This is terrible news. BC seems to be really racking up the cases.
Montreal helps us out tonight with a win over the Oilers. Eric Stall, plays 16 minutes and score the winner in OT.
25 Vancouver players with covid and different variants. This is really out of control.
Cole Caufield wins Hobey Baker Award.
Canucks MAY play again next Friday.
The Leaf's are all in, Nick Foligno, Stefan Noesen, and David Rittich.
Montreal, has picked up D-man Jon Merrill.
Many of the good D-men have found new teams.
Dman Reilly goes from Ottawa to Boston for a 3rd in 2022
Savard to Tampa, as if Tampa needed another good D-man.
Panthers picking up Montour. Central Division is going to be a dog fight. The top teams are loading up.
Jeff Carter to the Penguins.
Hall and Lazar to the Bruins. Lots of big moves last night.
Fire sale in Buffalo!
Braydon Coburn to the Islanders. Good size and depth for there D.
Mike Reilly to the Bruins.
Two D-men we don't have to face tonight.
Oilers pickup Kulikov.
Block buster trade, lol. Fredrik Claesson to Tampa for Magnus Chrona. Tampa loading up on D-men.
Ottawa picks up Victor Mete off waivers.
Sam Bennett to the Panthers for a 2nd. round pick and a prospect.
Eric Gustafsson off to Montreal.
Eric Gudbranson to Nashville. Another Ottawa D-man we will not see tonight.
Carl Soderberg to the Av's.
Haydn Fleury to the Ducks.
Mantha to the Washington for Panik and Vrana and a 1st and 2nd round pick.
Leaf's pickup Ben Hutton for a 5th round pick.
Really like what the Caps did by getting LW., Raffle & big man, sniper, Mantha
Surprisingly the Caps didn?t get an experienced goalie
Toronto picked up some good depth players, and grit for the playoff's.
PL29 scores a couple of goals tonight. He heating up.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 13, 2021, 03:11:37 AM
PL29 scores a couple of goals tonight. He heating up.
His end to end goal was pretty nasty.
Yes, to bad he can't do that more often.
This is how Laine operated in Winnipeg, too. Streaky af. He's the best player in the NHL for a week and then is radio silent for weeks on end sometimes.
We watch it a couple of times today. It's going to be a highlight goal for years to come. Just straight up the speed and power he showed.
PL29 is the new TSN 1V1 Champion. Nice. Great goal.
Should Vancouver be playing on Friday night, or should they get a couple more days to practice?
Sadly yes they should play. NHL has a league to run & Taxi & farm club players will have to fill voids
Definitely have sympathy for an athlete trying to excel after being physically wasted from Covid
Saw headline, didn't read story, that they now won't play Friday
Vancouver's Friday night game postponed. Saturday's game TBA.
Hyman fined $5K for his slash on Pionk last night.
Avs are next in games postponed ........ haven't heard of new dates for Canucks
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 16, 2021, 07:14:18 PM
Hyman fined $5K for his slash on Pionk last night.
That was a nasty slash. I am glad he's paying 5K. I was thinking 5 minutes on that one.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 15, 2021, 10:07:08 PM
Vancouver's Friday night game postponed. Saturday's game TBA.
Sounds like Vancouver will play on Sunday and Tuesday.
Caufield called up to Montreal's taxi squad and is wearing #22.
Nice, Vancouver beats the Leaf's in OT.
Actually got excited & yelled in favor of the comeback & win for the Canucks ........ gutsy play
Golden Knights on fire with 7 straight wins. Bruins are also heating up with a 5 game winning streak.
Leaf's loss again.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 21, 2021, 03:44:14 AM
Leaf's loss again.
Brutal collapse. And by that I mean awesome. ;D
5 in a row for the Leaf's. PP is starting to show some life. We will have to shut that down.
Watched the 3rd & again was overjoyed to see a Leaf loss My viewing eyes noticed the absence of Hyman's style of play
Is Foligno in lineup vs the Jets ??
Oilers lost last night, which is good for the Jets.
Vegas on a 9 games winning streak. Wild have won 7 straight. Penguins take over 1st place and are on a 4 game winning streak without EM71.
Calgary's N. Hanafin suffers season ending shoulder injury that needs surgery to repair
Cole Caufield in for Montreal tonight.
wow, the Golden Knights on a 10 game winning streak.
Calgary shuts down CM97 in a 3-1 win.
Nice to see CC22 get his first goal in OT against Ottawa.
Caufield with another OT win. Montreal is now tied with the Jet's in 3rd place.
The Tom Wilson fine is a joke.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 04, 2021, 08:32:06 PM
The Tom Wilson fine is a joke.
Tom Wilson being in the NHL is a bigger joke. Someone needs to tune that clown.
I agree, does NYR have anyone that can tune him up.
Panarin is out for the rest of the year.
Rangers fire there President and GM.
Flyer's Gostisbehere gets a 2 game suspension for a dangerous push ........ Wilson gets a fine (profanity shouted out)
Quote from: Jockitch on May 05, 2021, 10:47:02 PM
Flyer's Gostisbehere gets a 2 game suspension for a dangerous push ........ Wilson gets a fine (profanity shouted out)
Parros is a joke. How he ever got a position in the DOPS speaks to how laughable the NHL is when it comes to actual player safety.
NY Rangers fined $250K for the organization's reactive statement. Yikes!
Yes, $250K for speaking the truth, seems crazy.
Reports are that Wilson was injured last night and left the game early.
I am really impressed with this young Ottawa team. Just so much speed and talent. Was nice to see 20 year old Bernard-Docker last night. If they can keep getting good goal tending this team will be a good team in the near future.
Also am very impressed by the on ice product. Coaching staff, without knowing all their behind the scenes efforts, should definitely be sited for achieving, well above, expectations
I was just looking at SC87, Sid at 33 is still putting up the point. 24G, 38A, 62 points.
Tortorella and Tocchet both no longer coaching in the NHL. For now.
Both good moves for Coyotes & Blue Jackets
Ottawa beats the Leaf's in OT.
I have really enjoyed the Boston/Washington series. Close very hard fought games.
Caps & Bruin games are a real treat to see. The game between Avs & Blues certainly had some great speed & finished checks.
Missed seeing the evil Kadri cheap shot ...... probably going to be suspended again in the 1st round
Nice win for Montreal tonight. Montreal with a shorty late in the game to win it. CP31 was very good.
Montreal played a very physical game. I liked when Big Ben was man handling AM34 behind the net.
Indeed a very nice Price like win for the Habs
Tavares episode was just awful "gasping" to see ....... not likely back in playoffs ...... sincere best wishes for no ill affects in the future
This how stupid hockey can be these days. Foligno fights Cory Perry on an accidently injury to JT.
There are clean hits and guy's are looking for fights. Take your lumps like a man and move on. Getting with a clean hard body check is apart of the game.
If C-Mc97 want to go after much smaller NP4, why do other Oiler players need to be involved.
Montreal needs some scoring if they want to stay in the playoff's. Getting there PP going would be a good thing.
Crazy Speeeeeed of Makar, MacKinnon & how the Avs do business
Tampa really needed Vaz to be the very good goalie today & he delivered.
Loved watching the Garbage Knights get absolutely rocked last night. Here's hoping Reaves gets suspended for a good while, too.
Game 7 can Montreal pull this off?
And the Leaf's choke again.
Big guns fail to show up for another game 7.
That was a bed ****ting if I've ever seen one. Some of my friends joked at the beginning of the series and Toronto would obviously choke and while I wanted it to happen I didn't buy it. They were all 100% right.
Matthews: 11.6M AAV, 1 goal/7 games
Marner: 10M AAV, 0 goals/7 games
Both made over 15M this year.
#Choke
Buffalo win lottery. Who will they take #1 overall?
Great win for Canada today at the World Championships. Owen Power is a very good player and could be the #1 pick overall.
Congrats team Canada
Knights are back on track, that series is now 2-2
Lighting looking very strong and have a 3-1 lead.
NYI and the Bruins 2-2.
Lighting are in the final four.
Knights take a 3/2 lead with a very nice come back OT win.
NYI up 3-2.
Montreal will play the winner of Knights/Ava's.
Watching other games during playoffs made the Jets look like they were collecting dust vs the Habs
Bruins are done. NYI/ Tampa Bay. Should be a good series.
Vegas may win a 4th game in a row tonight .... both teams are a treat to watch
It's over. The VGK and Montreal. I think VGK has far to much fire power for Montreal. But you never know. The series will start on Monday night.
Habs take game 2 and tie up the series!
Montreal looked much better tonight. Much closer to the team that swept the Jet's.
Very good game tonight between to good teams. Big win for the Lighting.
Montreal with a very good OT, goes up 2-1 in the series, with out there Head Coach who out with Covid 19.
Price Is Right was certainly fantastic & the Habs played the OT with their best energy of the game
My Hockey Pool selections never included Montreal players ....... sonafabitch
NYI played a very solid game, and shutdown the Lighting.
Tough one for Montreal. Little bit of a weak goal let in by CP31 on the McNabb goal.
Slaughterhouse by TBL last night. I didn't watch but wowza, 8-0!
Quote from: Pigskin on June 21, 2021, 04:17:23 AM
Tough one for Montreal. Little bit of a weak goal let in by CP31 on the McNabb goal.
Agreed. Officiating in that series has been disgraceful, too.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 22, 2021, 05:52:59 PM
Agreed. Officiating in that series has been disgraceful, too.
Agree, the slash to Perry's face and no call. wow.
With Weber and Petry with hand injuries Montreal isn't getting that big blast from the point on the PP.
They need a little more scoring to support CP31.
Suzuki with a 3 point night, CP31, and some great D, gets Montreal to a 3-2 lead in the series.
Montreal got goals from Suzuki 21, Kotkaniemi 20, Caufield 20.
Lighting blow a two goal lead. NYI send this series to a game 7.
Kucherov leaves after a shift ...... was that the losing factor for tampa ....... regardless, it was highly entertaining & the Isles fought for a valued win
Montreal continues to surprise, yet last game I just felt that their on ice steady battling made Vegas very vulnerable & voila ...... the Habs can lock down the series tonight
Go Islanders Go. Love that Barry Trotz!
Wowee, absolutely shocked at how far the Habs team has gone. Crazy solid Price, with an extremely good defense & forwards pushing & playing well away from the puck
Didn't feel Game 1 held too many surprises ......... however Price did get beat for 5 goals
Tampa used their intense hustle & skill to keep the Habs on the defense ..... however was happy to see that Montreal players did give it a very good try
Quote from: Jockitch on June 25, 2021, 03:27:17 PM
Wowee, absolutely shocked at how far the Habs team has gone. Crazy solid Price, with an extremely good defense & forwards pushing & playing well away from the puck
I knew they had the talent if they were healthy to get out of the North. Beating VK like they did, that was a surprise.
JT19 back skating, the Hawks will be happy about that.
RNH93 42M for 8 years. 16/G and 19/A.
Montreal totally out played Tampa. Out shot them 43/23, Montreal was 33% on the PP, 100% on the PK, but just can't get a bounce. At this point AV88 is out playing CP31.
Definitely was a much better effort by the Habs ........ but hard to get a lot by Vasilevskiy
Really was a costly blunder by Habs Dman to give Palat, a bounce off Price's skate, a lucky goal. Stats say that it was 1 turnover of the 2 in total by the Habs
Nashville have traded forward V. Arvidsson to the L.A. Kings for a 2nd round draft pick this year & a 3rd round selection the following season
Saw a rumour where Duncan Keith, who will turn 38 on the 16th, is expected to be moved by Chicago. At over $5M per for the next 2 yrs. Good luck on that
Montreal looked like a beaten team, and CP31 is looking tired. The Lighting just have way to much talent, and I guess 20M over the cap helps a bit.
Habs fairy tale run is turning it's last pages ........ maybe a win on Monday but expect Tampa to win it all by the 5th game.
Not over yet, great PK late in the game and for the first 3 minutes of OT. Nice second effort by Anderson on the OT winner. CP31 was dialed in, and strange goals on him tonight. Still a little fight left in the Habs.
Sad day in the NHL. Matiss Kivlenieks killed in a freak July 4th fireworks accident.
Yelled mightily in the OT victory ?.. never have I cheered for the Habs so openly in my life
Hopefully hurricane Elsa doesn?t interfere with the scheduled game ?.. Go Habs Go
Montreal played a good game, CP31 was outstanding, but you have to score to win. Montreal has some good young talent, good D, and CP31, but there PP really let them down. It was nice to see a Canadian team in the Cup again.
The lighting are an excellent team, $20M over the cap or not. Good year for Tampa. Stanley Cup and a Super Bowl.
Glad that's over. Quite the boring SCF outside of game 4, IMO.
Montreal to expose Weber in expansion draft. This will protect Ben, Joel, and Jeff who they have to protect because he has a no move clause.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 15, 2021, 05:11:39 AM
Montreal to expose Weber in expansion draft. This will protect Ben, Joel, and Jeff who they have to protect because he has a no move clause.
Man, that would be the perfect grab for the Kraken, no issue about cap hit, and a solid leader, their first C...
If you read the whole story, Weber may not play next year or ever again. Apparently is has a number of lingering injures that need time to heel. I can't see the Kraken touching him. It sound like there interested in Kulak.
really a sad story for Weber & his potential season sideline journey
Montreal does not protect Carey Price.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 18, 2021, 05:41:47 PM
Montreal does not protect Carey Price.
Seeing what VGK did in drafting MAF, I can't see the Krakers passing up on Price, regardless his price... mkes them immediate contenders.
Believe there is no way Price gets picked. Denault me thinks is Seattle?s pick from Habs
Holtby or Bishop, with a strong chance, if rumours are correct, Driedger from Florida
Vegas has to leave one of there goalies unprotected, neither is making 10M .
Lots of big names out there for Francis to choose for his roster. The Kraken should be pretty competitive right out of the gate.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 18, 2021, 08:23:49 PM
Vegas has to leave one of there goalies unprotected, neither is making 10M .
Money is not an issue right now, winning is.
Price gives you an instant chance at winning.
Ask the Jets if Price makes a difference...
Quote from: theaardvark on July 19, 2021, 03:43:22 PM
Money is not an issue right now, winning is.
Price gives you an instant chance at winning.
Ask the Jets if Price makes a difference...
Money mite not mean anything right now, but Price has a ton of time left on his contract. Also it has been reported that Price may miss a significant portion of the season with an injury that may require surgery.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 19, 2021, 02:07:06 PM
Lots of big names out there for Francis to choose for his roster. The Kraken should be pretty competitive right out of the gate.
I agree, there are a lot of very good players unprotected. This is probably a better pool then the Knights had to choose from.
A number of trades last week. This one I found interesting. Patrick and Myer to Nashville for Ellis. Nashville trades Patrick to Vegas for Cody Glass, another Winnipeg boy.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 19, 2021, 03:43:22 PM
Money is not an issue right now, winning is.
Price gives you an instant chance at winning.
Ask the Jets if Price makes a difference...
The Kraken will be competitive regardless of who's in net. They'll have a pretty solid, well-rounded roster without the need for the highest paid netminder in the game (even if he is arguably the best).
Money is an issue if long-term stability is desired.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 19, 2021, 04:01:24 PM
I agree, there are a lot of very good players unprotected. This is probably a better pool then the Knights had to choose from.
Could be many big names selected, which is great marketability.
Apparently the Kraken are said to have a deal in place with Chris Driedger.
Earlier I had said no to Price as a Kraken & thought of Holtby & Bishop ....... but now I realized I missed the Cap's youthful V. Vanecek as a goalie with great potential
Vanecek could be a healthy pairing with Driedger from Florida as I think the Kraken should be good with a young tandem rather than an ace in their first year
Took a hard look at the players available ....... my gosh it is such a difficult list of undervalued & high priced vets
Anyone else notice that Nashville trades a very good Dman in Ellis, pick up P. Myers & include him in 5 Dmen protected while only listing 3 forwards
O. Klefbom must be very seriously hurt that the Oilers left him out there while protecting Keith & of course obviously saying they lack big $$ to pay Barrie
This is from early this day ........ various leaks of who the Kraken have chosen, but not a complete list
https://www.tsn.ca/seattle-kraken-expansion-draft-blog-1.1670707
Crappy. Really like App's.
Weber will sit out all this coming up season.
WOW X another WOW ...... the Canucks just got even more difficult to play against this season
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canucks-acquire-ekman-larsson-garland-coyotes-blockbuster-deal/
However they only have less than $19M in Cap Space with another 8 roster spots to fill which includes needing to sign young Super Stars E. Pettersson & Q. Hughes
.... so if EP gets an AAV of $8.5, Hughes gets an AAV of $7. & now rising good player Garland gets signed for $5. at least ........ something won't add up
Vancouver is not done
Carey Price had knee surgery yesterday, but should be back for the start of the season.
Terrific move by Florida to get Sam Reinhart from Buffalo
Vancouver getting OELarsson & Garland from Arizona was an excellent trade but Benning still has Cap issues
Ristolainen to Philadelphia, who days earlier made a deal to also get Ellis from Nashville ....... Go Flyers Go
How lucky was defman. Jake Bean, who got moved from a stacked D team in the Canes to now really develop & improve with Columbus
Seth Jones to the Hawks ...... who sign him to major $$'s extension
Calle Makar, who is crazy great, gets a 6 year, $54M contract ........ while perhaps no longer a big star but still above average, Taylor Hall signs a major, team friendly contract
Fleury to the Hawks: https://www.tsn.ca/marc-andre-fleury-chicago-blackhawks-vegas-golden-knights-1.1673506 (https://www.tsn.ca/marc-andre-fleury-chicago-blackhawks-vegas-golden-knights-1.1673506)
VKG clearing up some cap space I suppose...
Ovechkin re-ups in DC: https://www.tsn.ca/alex-ovechkin-washington-capitals-1.1673532 (https://www.tsn.ca/alex-ovechkin-washington-capitals-1.1673532)
Needs to average 33 goals per season to beat the Great One.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 27, 2021, 06:24:02 PM
Ovechkin re-ups in DC: https://www.tsn.ca/alex-ovechkin-washington-capitals-1.1673532 (https://www.tsn.ca/alex-ovechkin-washington-capitals-1.1673532)
Needs to average 33 goals per season to beat the Great One.
I can't believe that's even a possibility.
And doesn't Ovi score 40+ annually, dependably?
Quote from: blue_or_die on July 27, 2021, 07:24:17 PM
I can't believe that's even a possibility.
And doesn't Ovi score 40+ annually, dependably?
If he stays healthy, he has a good opportunity to accomplish this record. It's pretty incredible.
With Weber out for the year, Montreal has signed Wideman, and Savard.
Sounds like PL29 signed a one year deal with the Bluejackets for $7.5M.
Apparently he didn't get along with MS55 and BW26. Was never signing long term in Winnipeg.
Montreal picks up Hoffman for 3 years @ 4.5M AAV. Savard for 4 years @ 3.5 AAV.
They needed scoring and another shutdown D.
Jets get Dillon from Caps for 2 picks in successive years, the Caps don't protect goalie Vanecek & lose him to Seattle in their Draft
Yesterday the Caps gave up next year 2nd rd pick, that they just got from the Jets, to get Vanecek back ..... win for both teams ???
Terrific goalie Grubauer is lost by the Avs to the Kraken in a late UFA move yesterday, without a top goalie the Avs have to give up big to get Kuemper from the Coyotes
definitely a win for the Coyotes & Seattle while a wait & see for the Avs
caught on SportsNet that Fleury has told Chicago that he will report to the team
Forwards Svechnikov (CAR) and Couturier (PHI) both get shiny new deals, 8 years, $62M ($7.75M AAV).
JT19 is looking and feeling healthy. The Hawks will be happy.
Sid will be out 6 weeks with wrist surgery.
Interesting on Sami ....... funny when the writer calls Charlie Huddy the Jets linebacker coach
https://www.habsfanatics.com/?no=57701&s=100
Lehner, the goalie for Vegas, has certainly put some awkward comments on social media about the Flyers, Buffalo & coach Vigneault
Duncan Keith not happy about having to taking the vaccine.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 04, 2021, 08:05:40 PM
Duncan Keith not happy about having to taking the vaccine.
He was brought in for his "leadership qualities"... sounds like this is another boondoggle... how does Edmonton manage to be so bad at this?
Looks like Montreal will start the year a little short handed on the backend.
Price is still out and will not be in the lineup for the season opener.
Weber is out for the year.
Edmundson is out and will not make it back for the season opener.
Niku has a concussion, no that he is one of there top six.
Montreal may start Kulak, Romanov, Guhle, Savard, Chiarot, and Petry, with Wideman as there 7th D -man.
Carey Price granted a leave of absence.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 07, 2021, 06:30:58 PM
Carey Price granted a leave of absence.
kinda weird. First Drouin now Price must be stressful playing on Montreal? Maybe a family issue with Price was the way I read it.
Drouin had problems with Anxiety and Insomnia.
Carey's wife Angela siting Mental Health on her Instagram post.
How much more trouble could Evander Kane get into. As if he wasn't in enough hot water, now for a fake vaccine card.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 07, 2021, 07:57:19 PM
Drouin had problems with Anxiety and Insomnia.
Carey's wife Angela siting Mental Health on her Instagram post.
ya Price seemed deer in headlights at the best of times! I guess not hugely surprised. Even with milllion and millions you can still have issues. Crazy but true.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 07, 2021, 09:21:47 PM
How much more trouble could Evander Kane get into. As if he wasn't in enough hot water, now for a fake vaccine card.
gotta top 5 strangest characters ever in the NHL history. He is going for number 1.
Coleman gets two game for his boarding of Harkins.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 08, 2021, 02:15:57 PM
Coleman gets two game for his boarding of Harkins.
Good. Absolute greaseball move.
Agree, Harkin on his knee's. I really don't know what he was thinking.
On another note did PK slue-foot Ryan Reaves?
Nick Suzuki, 8 years, 63M, extension.
Penguins put the boots to the Lighting, without Sid, or Evgeni.
Kraken putting up a good fight in Vegas.
Gee whiz ...... N. MacKinnon goes on Covid Protocol
Quote from: Jockitch on October 13, 2021, 06:43:45 PM
Gee whiz ...... N. MacKinnon goes on Covid Protocol
well indirectly good for the Jets I suppose.
Well no Reaves/Wilson last night.
Brady Tkachuk 57.5M over 7 years. 8.2M per.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 14, 2021, 10:30:43 PM
Brady Tkachuk 57.5M over 7 years. 8.2M per.
$8.2mil for 7... which one blinked? Is that a good deal for BT7? Especially playing in Ott?
NHL GMs spending like drunken sailors. Yeesh.
McAvoy re-signed by the Bruins: 8 years, $9.5M AAV ($76M total).
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 15, 2021, 04:40:12 PM
NHL GMs spending like drunken sailors. Yeesh.
McAvoy re-signed by the Bruins: 8 years, $9.5M AAV ($76M total).
Agree ........ some crazy $$ flying to player's banks
Wow... the deals Chevy has signed seem like larceny in today's market...
BW26 8.25/yr
KC81 7.14/yr
MS55 6.125/yr
JM44 6.25/yr
CH37 6.16/yr
NE27 6/yr (absolute larceny)
PD80 5/yr
About the only contract that might be a tad high is NP4 at 5.85/yr...
For a team "no one want to come play for", Chevy has made some pretty shrewd deals.
MS55 signed his deal in 2016, I am wondering what he would be asking for today?
Wheeler's contract isn't necessary aging well.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 18, 2021, 01:20:50 PM
Wheeler's contract isn't necessary aging well.
It was never going to, but let's give him a shot before we condemn him completely.
I think he needs some things taken off his plate. He's been forced to stay on the top line one season too long, I think.
We clearly have other players who are capable of larger roles and it's time to starting decreasing the minutes of our older guys.
Quote from: Jesse on October 27, 2021, 02:19:29 PM
It was never going to, but let's give him a shot before we condemn him completely.
I think he needs some things taken off his plate. He's been forced to stay on the top line one season too long, I think.
We clearly have other players who are capable of larger roles and it's time to starting decreasing the minutes of our older guys.
Who's condemned him? A contract not aging well isn't an indictment of the player who signed it. He's still a heart and soul player on this team and is a strong, capable leader.
I don't think he's a top 3 player at the same level as 2-3 seasons ago but he's still a top 6 player. I agree completely it's time to let a younger player take on a larger on that top line wing and let Wheeler move down to the second line.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 27, 2021, 05:14:17 PM
Who's condemned him? A contract not aging well isn't an indictment of the player who signed it. He's still a heart and soul player on this team and is a strong, capable leader.
I don't think he's a top 3 player at the same level as 2-3 seasons ago but he's still a top 6 player. I agree completely it's time to let a younger player take on a larger on that top line wing and let Wheeler move down to the second line.
Yeah, all I'm trying to say.
"John Doe" from Chicago is on @SportsCentre tonight...
Quote from: theaardvark on October 27, 2021, 10:29:43 PM
"John Doe" from Chicago is on @SportsCentre tonight...
This story is just sickening.
I am not a big fan of Kadri, but what Binnington did last night was just stupid.
Morgan Riley, 8 years 60M.
Can?t wait to hear what Binnington gets ?? hopefully at least 5 games
Eichel, and a 3rd. round pick in 2023 to Vegas for Tuch, Krebs, a top 10 protected 1st. round pick in 2022, and a 2nd. round pick in 2023. And Eichel will not play until next year, if all goes well.
Quote from: Pigskin on November 04, 2021, 08:01:35 PM
Eichel, and a 3rd. round pick in 2023 to Vegas for Tuch, Krebs, a top 10 protected 1st. round pick in 2022, and a 2nd. round pick in 2023. And Eichel will not play until next year, if all goes well.
Wow... Vegas sold the farm on that one... for a player that may never lace 'em up again. Two active roster players out... including one of their best...
Not questioning whether they are good hockey minds, they've had success so far... but Buffalo must have learned something from trading for Kane...
Tuch is on LTIR at the moment after shoulder surgery sidelined him for roughly six months at the end of July. That puts him on track for a potential return in late January. It's not dissimilar from Eichel, whose neck surgery will keep him shelved until at least after the Olympics.
And now Vegas management has to figure out a way to fit Eichel's salary into the roster, as it would put them approx. $10M over the cap once he's activated. I expect another trade before the deadline but that'll put Vegas at a potential disadvantage having their hands tied with severe cap implications.
Looks good on that showboat franchise.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 04, 2021, 08:42:06 PM
Tuch is on LTIR at the moment after shoulder surgery sidelined him for roughly six months at the end of July. That puts him on track for a potential return in late January. It's not dissimilar from Eichel, whose neck surgery will keep him shelved until at least after the Olympics.
And now Vegas management has to figure out a way to fit Eichel's salary into the roster, as it would put them approx. $10M over the cap once he's activated. I expect another trade before the deadline but that'll put Vegas at a potential disadvantage having their hands tied with severe cap implications.
Looks good on that showboat franchise.
Did not know Tuch was injured, that makes a lot more sense...
Nurse and Koekkoek both out for the Oilers. Sound like 3 weeks for Nurse, 4 for Koekkoek. Nurse breaks his finger when he got tangled up with Dooby.
Canadiens clean house. Gone are Bergevin, Timmins, and Wilson. Mellanby resign yesterday.
Evander Kane placed on waivers by the Sharks earlier today. I can't see any teams picking up that headcase, so down the AHL he likely goes.
Sure am happy Kane and Lemieux aren't Jets anymore.
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 29, 2021, 06:43:10 PM
Sure am happy Kane and Lemieux aren't Jets anymore.
Agreed. Two absolute clowns.
Penguins sold for 900M.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 30, 2021, 04:03:48 AM
I guess Lemieux is out?
Heck no.
No one would buy the Pens without Lemieux being attached. I believe he stays on at his same share.
I believe ML66 is off golfing in Florida enjoying life.
Lemieux gets 5 games for his bite. It's seems to run in the family as his dad apparently bite Keith.
Quote from: Pigskin on December 02, 2021, 01:31:38 AM
Lemieux gets 5 games for his bite. It's seems to run in the family as his dad apparently bite Keith.
IIRC, he bit Peplinski in the 1986 SCF. Family of clowns.
Per Rick Westhead on Twitter: Rumours of the Yotes being potentially sold to an owner who intends to move the franchise to Houston.
Arizona is steadfastly denying those rumours.
Quote from: Jesse on December 02, 2021, 03:55:22 PM
Arizona is steadfastly denying those rumours.
Not a shocker. Damage control for a pretty fragile organization seems like a no brainer, regardless of the veracity of the rumour.
McDavid with another hit from behind, this one gets him 5 and a game.
A few coaches losing there jobs.
Edmonton winless in last 3. Sorry make that 4 in a row. Now it's 5 games. Sorry 6 in a row, Leaf's hammer them.
So, cross border travel is out, why not just take the olympic break now, and forget the olympics?
Quote from: theaardvark on December 20, 2021, 07:59:49 PM
So, cross border travel is out, why not just take the olympic break now, and forget the olympics?
I think that is what's going to happen.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 20, 2021, 07:59:49 PM
So, cross border travel is out, why not just take the olympic break now, and forget the olympics?
Like that thought
17% of the players in the NHL in covid protocol?
Just an absolute shame that this kills the Olympics.
Hopefully the Juniors can go on with modifications.
Quote from: Jesse on December 21, 2021, 01:40:10 PM
Just an absolute shame that this kills the Olympics.
Hopefully the Juniors can go on with modifications.
Just horrible. The absolute best part of all Olympics. Remember what a laugh the hobo hockey team was in '18? Who even cares.
Come on hockey fans we still have our women's hockey team. A couple great young players on that team.
Women"s hockey get my 3 Stars Big Hooray & Good Luck for all involved in the World Jr Tournament
Quote from: Pigskin on December 21, 2021, 06:37:40 PM
Come on hockey fans we still have our women's hockey team. A couple great young players on that team.
Fair enough, I do enjoy the women?s hockey. But to have NHL stars organized by nation was absolute next-level.
The NHL should never have been going to China... this "excuse" gives them cover... but they should never have been going.
Well, NHL players aren't going anymore and the Olympic break will now be used to reschedule postponed games.
Disappointing but it makes sense.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 22, 2021, 03:39:31 PM
Well, NHL players aren't going anymore and the Olympic break will now be used to reschedule postponed games.
Disappointing but it makes sense.
Sad that a lot of great players for many countries will never get to play together in the Olympics.
Quote from: Pigskin on December 22, 2021, 06:08:53 PM
Sad that a lot of great players for many countries will never get to play together in the Olympics.
Most pro players played with their countrymen at the world juniors, and other similar tourneys. The Olympics is really just a dog and pony show, with maybe 3 or 4 teams in the running...
Quote from: theaardvark on December 22, 2021, 09:34:22 PM
Most pro players played with their countrymen at the world juniors, and other similar tourneys. The Olympics is really just a dog and pony show, with maybe 3 or 4 teams in the running...
Massive undersell. This is the biggest stage with the best players in the world, in their prime, playing for their country. Did you not watch any of the Winter Olympics with NHL players? It steals the entire show.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 22, 2021, 11:58:25 PM
Massive undersell. This is the biggest stage with the best players in the world, in their prime, playing for their country. Did you not watch any of the Winter Olympics with NHL players? It steals the entire show.
Agree, Olympic hockey with the NHL players is the best showdown in the world.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 22, 2021, 09:34:22 PM
Most pro players played with their countrymen at the world juniors, and other similar tourneys. The Olympics is really just a dog and pony show, with maybe 3 or 4 teams in the running...
The publicity and coverage the Olympics get are second to none, with hockey being no exception and one of the most popular sports in the winter games, showcasing the world's best talent and most established talent.
The WJHC gets very little coverage by comparison, not to mention it's made up of junior players who have little to no professional experience and/or aren't even drafted.
There is no comparison whatsoever. It's literally men vs. boys.
Your comparison is poorly founded.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 22, 2021, 11:58:25 PM
Massive undersell. This is the biggest stage with the best players in the world, in their prime, playing for their country. Did you not watch any of the Winter Olympics with NHL players? It steals the entire show.
This. It's also a ridiculous, utterly nonsensical undersell with no basis in objective reality.
Sure, compared to luge doubles, hockey is a better watch.
But trying to compare Olympic hockey (the worlds best players tossed onto half a dozen competitive teams at the last minute) to NHL playoff hockey (the same best players in the world on teams they've played on all year long, coached by the same coaches all year) is kinda like apples and oranges, both have merits, but the Olympics is really just an exhibition game. Bigger ice, different rules... sure, they change the game... and having fewer teams to put the stars on, and having lots of the best players not make teams due to numbers, well, plus and minue.
Will the Olympics suffer without Hockey? You bet. Will the players or the fans suffer without it? Nope. And if it ends up causing a superpreader event and hurts the NHL, then its a lose / lose... especially if a player ends up dead or ends his career to long COVID.
Connor McDavid has a different opinion. He says there is no substitute for the Olympics.
Quote from: Pigskin on December 27, 2021, 06:58:19 PM
Connor McDavid has a different opinion. He says there is no substitute for the Olympics.
Connor McDavid is going to love the Olympics, he's always going to make a team that is one of the favourites. What's not to like about that, compared to his NHL gig...
Quote from: theaardvark on December 24, 2021, 07:34:53 PM
Sure, compared to luge doubles, hockey is a better watch.
But trying to compare Olympic hockey (the worlds best players tossed onto half a dozen competitive teams at the last minute) to NHL playoff hockey (the same best players in the world on teams they've played on all year long, coached by the same coaches all year) is kinda like apples and oranges, both have merits, but the Olympics is really just an exhibition game. Bigger ice, different rules... sure, they change the game... and having fewer teams to put the stars on, and having lots of the best players not make teams due to numbers, well, plus and minue.
Will the Olympics suffer without Hockey? You bet. Will the players or the fans suffer without it? Nope.And if it ends up causing a superpreader event and hurts the NHL, then its a lose / lose... especially if a player ends up dead or ends his career to long COVID.
Please explain how players giving up their dream to represent their country and compete for an Olympic medal and fans foregoing seeing the best players from their favourite teams in the NHL play for their countries is not a detriment to those parties.
Quote from: blue_or_die on December 27, 2021, 08:15:54 PM
Please explain how players giving up their dream to represent their country and compete for an Olympic medal and fans foregoing seeing the best players from their favourite teams in the NHL play for their countries is not a detriment to those parties.
Pretty sure any player this year that would have been an Olympian either already has been, or will potentially be in 4 years...
But either way... if you want to see your favourite player play for the Stanley Cup this year, them going to Beijing would probably end that option... athletes there will probably get COVID of some form, or will end up in quarantine to the detriment of their teams/selves...
The proper thing is to delay the whole tournament at least a year...
Quote from: theaardvark on December 27, 2021, 09:45:30 PM
Pretty sure any player this year that would have been an Olympian either already has been, or will potentially be in 4 years...
But either way... if you want to see your favourite player play for the Stanley Cup this year, them going to Beijing would probably end that option... athletes there will probably get COVID of some form, or will end up in quarantine to the detriment of their teams/selves...
The proper thing is to delay the whole tournament at least a year...
The last time NHL players were in the Olympics was 2014. There are a ton of new NHL stars who would be playing for their respective countries.
If your reasons for thinking the this tournament shouldn?t happen this way are COVID-related, that?s fair, but that?s not admitting this is a massive loss to many on so many levels.
And in your comparison of this coming at the expense of winning a Stanley Cup?uh, I guess it could hurt your chances but given there are 32 teams and a Canadian team hasn?t won in 3 decades, I?d take my chances and go with this tourney with NHL stars that happens once every four years (actually, 12 years now, assuming they get to play next Winter Olympics).
Question:
In the days before Russian players being allowed to leave Russia for the NHL, do you think they'd have traded Olympic Gold for a Stanley Cup? Or just to play in the NHL "professionally"?
Just saying, millionaires missing out on "playing for their country" in a venue specifically designed for *amateur* athletics (in the past, medals were stripped for medalists taking expense money prior to the games), who probably already have Gold Medals from juniors or other pre-professional "world" tournaments is not a tragedy...
Sure, great TV, entertainment for people starving for sports to fill our pandemic lives, but is really a fair competition or compelling other than boosting the CAN/US testosterone for beating up on Switzerland?
The Olympics has been monitized, and its purity as a sporting competition between nations has changed dramatically since the 60's, when it was a much more interesting (IMHO) event. The USA basketball "Dream Team" spelled the end of the era of Olympics in my eyes...
Quote from: theaardvark on December 28, 2021, 01:35:00 PM
Question:
In the days before Russian players being allowed to leave Russia for the NHL, do you think they'd have traded Olympic Gold for a Stanley Cup? Or just to play in the NHL "professionally"?
Just saying, millionaires missing out on "playing for their country" in a venue specifically designed for *amateur* athletics (in the past, medals were stripped for medalists taking expense money prior to the games), who probably already have Gold Medals from juniors or other pre-professional "world" tournaments is not a tragedy...
Sure, great TV, entertainment for people starving for sports to fill our pandemic lives, but is really a fair competition or compelling other than boosting the CAN/US testosterone for beating up on Switzerland?
The Olympics has been monitized, and its purity as a sporting competition between nations has changed dramatically since the 60's, when it was a much more interesting (IMHO) event. The USA basketball "Dream Team" spelled the end of the era of Olympics in my eyes...
1. I don't know why you're trying to turn this into and either/or situation. The Olympics or the Stanley Cup. We want both. In Europe, the professional soccer leagues build their schedule around the national/world tournaments. This is what we want the NHL to do.
2. The Olympics is about the best athletes in the world competing against each other for national pride. Sure, capitalism and professional sports has changed for certain athletes. But why should hockey players not be allowed to compete because more people watch their sport than speed skating?
3. Your argument is wrong in that US and Canada are not the only hockey nations anymore and in that every single Olympic event consists of the larger nations dominating the smaller ones. It does not make it any less engaging for the people watching or any less of an honour for the athletes participating.
4. Everything is monetized or it wouldn't happen. The IOC is as corrupt as it comes and yeah, I'd make a lot of changes if I could, but it's happening. So turn on the TV and enjoy it or stick your head in the sand and choose not to give it your attention.
Wow, are the Oilers ever in a bad funk right now.
Looks like Cole P. mite have a shot at going to the Olympics.
Looks like Montreal has 24 players and staff in Covid protocol.
The fact that the Oiler are interested in Kane, and excusing his off ice actions is a sign of desperation. Some teams just never learn.
11 games tonight including a game in Calgary. Hockey Night in Canada, finally.
Oilers lose to Ottawa at home. Give up 6 goals. This team needs some D and goal tending.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 16, 2022, 01:46:27 PM
Oilers lose to Ottawa at home. Give up 6 goals. This teams some D and goal tending.
That's been the headline for 15 years lmao.
They are up 3-1 and can't hold the lead. Forget about Kane, get some D.
Oiler's blowen out 6-0.
PL29 is having a very tough year for Columbus.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 24, 2022, 05:06:41 AM
PL29 is having a very tough year for Columbus.
Injuries, the sudden passing of his dad... He's only played 20 games. Gotta feel for him.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 24, 2022, 05:06:41 AM
PL29 is having a very tough year for Columbus.
Ladd is having a better year scoring goals than Wheeler...
PL29 is going to be a force in this league once he figures things out. But I am so happy we got PD80 instead. So much more of a force, not a one trick pony.
Jets may have an interesting decision at the trade deadline... not sure how we will be positioned, might have too many games in hand to decide buyer/seller status, but we might be in a spot to deal a BW26 or a MS55 with the talent we have coming up, and the need to free up cap space to keep them.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 24, 2022, 08:02:12 PM
Ladd is having a better year scoring goals than Wheeler...
What does that have to do with anything?
Quote from: theaardvark on January 24, 2022, 08:02:12 PM
Ladd is having a better year scoring goals than Wheeler...
PL29 is going to be a force in this league once he figures things out. But I am so happy we got PD80 instead. So much more of a force, not a one trick pony.
Jets may have an interesting decision at the trade deadline... not sure how we will be positioned, might have too many games in hand to decide buyer/seller status, but we might be in a spot to deal a BW26 or a MS55 with the talent we have coming up, and the need to free up cap space to keep them.
Wheeler has an untradeable contract. Not sure what team would take that on.
But dealing Scheifele? Yikes.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 24, 2022, 08:17:12 PM
What does that have to do with anything?
Agree, where did this come from.
Trading MS55, Not.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 24, 2022, 08:02:12 PM
Ladd is having a better year scoring goals than Wheeler...
PL29 is going to be a force in this league once he figures things out. But I am so happy we got PD80 instead. So much more of a force, not a one trick pony.
Jets may have an interesting decision at the trade deadline... not sure how we will be positioned, might have too many games in hand to decide buyer/seller status, but we might be in a spot to deal a BW26 or a MS55 with the talent we have coming up, and the need to free up cap space to keep them.
Ladd: 6G 3A for 9 points in 32 games and a-8.
BW26: 2G 17A 19 points in 24 games and a -2.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 24, 2022, 08:17:12 PM
What does that have to do with anything?
Gad, I really, really need the /sarcastica font here...
sigh
Yandle will break the consecutive game streak with his 965th game. Pretty impressive.
Niku on waivers.
Dell's hit on Batherson was cheap and dirty. The kid will now miss a fair amount of playing time.
Habs fire HC Ducharme.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 09, 2022, 08:03:27 PM
Habs fire HC Ducharme.
So, like their 4th coach in 5 years?
The Habs are having a terrible year. No Price, Weber, or Edmundson for the entire year. A number of good players, Ducharme just couldn't make it work.
we, as Jet fans, were upset with what Foligno did to Lowry but how about the Bruin star but often goof ball Brad Marchand going off.
Sucker punched Pen's goalie T. Jarry then circled around & used his stick on Jarry's face/mask
though I have Marchand in a Pool, do hope he gets at least 5 games.
Quote from: Jockitch on February 09, 2022, 11:50:40 PM
we, as Jet fans, were upset with what Foligno did to Lowry but how about the Bruin star but often goof ball Brad Marchand going off.
Sucker punched Pen's goalie T. Jarry then circled around & used his stick on Jarry's face/mask
though I have Marchand in a Pool, do hope he gets at least 5 games.
This year Marchand has paid out nearly 550,000 in fines.
MarchingMouth got 6 games ?? decent penalty
Haven?t heard squat on Foligno
Tippett is sent to the sidelines by Oilers ?? team is certainly in a funk
So, Oilers hire Maurice, and Tippett comes here?
Just kidding...
Quote from: Pigskin on February 10, 2022, 04:37:23 PM
This year Marchand has paid out nearly 550,000 in fines.
He's overtaken Pronger as the most suspended player in NHL history. Oof. :D
Foligno gets a two game suspension
Jay Woodcroft is the new head coach in Edmonton.
Coyotes will play at ASU arena for at least the next three years. LOL
The sale is on in Montreal. Toffoli to the Flames for a 1st. round pick, 5th round pick, Pitlick and Heineman.
Maybe the Jets can get Chiarot back on the cheap and re-sign him. ;D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 14, 2022, 06:57:00 PM
Maybe the Jets can get Chiarot back on the cheap and re-sign him. ;D
And Yoel Armia too ;)
Toronto trying to unload Nick Richie. To bad he's another LW. He would add some toughness to the Jets.
Montreal wins three in a row. Has a guy with no coaching experience figured things out.
Okay, it's 4 in a row. They better stop this winning streak or the #1 overall will be out the window.
McDavid rookie card goes for $144K at auction.
The Big Z 1652 games. Pretty amazing.
OV says no war, but will not condemn Putin for his actions. Most Russian NHLers are upset with Putin's actions.
Montreal now 5 in a row. Big Ben would good in a Jets jersey again.
Montreal wins 7 out of there last 8. Tonight shutting down the Oilers.
Oiler losing there last two games to the Habs and Blackhawks.
real bad day for goalie stats as in G.A.A ........ the Leafs, Campbell again had a tough nite with 5 against on just 23 saves
Lankinen, Blackhawks, 4 goals on 27 shots, Driedger, for the Kraken, had 4 against with 20 saves, Murray for Ott., had 23 saves but gave up 8 goals
S. Jose lost 8-0 at home vs Preds as Stalock lets in 6 with 22 saves, Swayman for Bost lets in 4 with 20 saves but wins in a shoot out
How about ...... Schmaltz for the Coyotes who scored twice & added 5 assts for 7 points in their 8-5 win over the Sens
Matthew has to get two to three games for that cross check to the face of Dahlin yesterday.
Mr Arizona got 2 games
It was a nasty cross check.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 14, 2022, 03:19:21 PM
Matthew has to get two to three games for that cross check to the face of Dahlin yesterday.
Because its Matthews, it will be a phone interview with a 5 game max for that.
It should be in person and 10 games plus. This is exactly the type of action that is going to get someone killed. The fact he was ineffective at delivering the blow and Dahlin escaped injury is no excuse for giving him only 2 games...
Quote from: Jockitch on March 14, 2022, 05:40:01 PM
Mr Arizona got 2 games
2 games wasn't enough. But about what was expected.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 15, 2022, 02:51:57 PM
2 games wasn't enough. But about what was expected.
Definitely expected for a first time offender.
Quote from: Jesse on March 15, 2022, 03:02:40 PM
Definitely expected for a first time offender.
Its why first time murderers don't get the death penalty...
"First time offender" should not be an explanation/excuse for this light of a penalty for this egregious of a foul. Had Dahlin suffered neck trauma and was paralyzed, would they have upped the penalty to 3 games?
There is no excuse or reason for Matthews to have committed this act. Period. And whether it was Matthews or Reaves committing this foul, the book should have been thrown at him.
You cannot bring your stick up past your waist and strike a player with it. There is no reason to, this is not a hockey play, this is plain old aggravated assault with a weapon. No less horrible than a two hander over the head.
Yes, I am being melodramatic. But this is blatantly a case of a star player getting preferential treatment.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 15, 2022, 03:12:01 PM
Its why first time murderers don't get the death penalty...
"First time offender" should not be an explanation/excuse for this light of a penalty for this egregious of a foul. Had Dahlin suffered neck trauma and was paralyzed, would they have upped the penalty to 3 games?
There is no excuse or reason for Matthews to have committed this act. Period. And whether it was Matthews or Reaves committing this foul, the book should have been thrown at him.
You cannot bring your stick up past your waist and strike a player with it. There is no reason to, this is not a hockey play, this is plain old aggravated assault with a weapon. No less horrible than a two hander over the head.
Yes, I am being melodramatic. But this is blatantly a case of a star player getting preferential treatment.
Yes, you are being melodramatic.
I personally agree with you, but this seemed like a pretty obvious number of games for a first time offence, and I don't believe his star power played into this one.
Quote from: Jesse on March 15, 2022, 03:37:08 PM
Yes, you are being melodramatic.
I personally agree with you, but this seemed like a pretty obvious number of games for a first time offence, and I don't believe his star power played into this one.
Its like ES71 drawing a 10 min misconduct for something MS55 would have gotten a harsh look for. Had EV71 made this crosscheck, he's getting 5 games minimum...
His cachet certainly reduced his suspension, first offence or not...
Big Ben goes to the Panthers. For Ty Smilanic, a first round and a fourth round pick.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 17, 2022, 01:43:46 PM
Big Ben goes to the Panthers. For Ty Smilanic, a first round and a fourth round pick.
Nice trade that benefits both teams. Must be a nice feeling for Chiarot, too.
MP85 waived by Montreal. Perreault has had a tough year in Montreal.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 17, 2022, 09:48:31 PM
MP85 waived by Montreal. Perreault has had a tough year in Montreal.
Who hasn't? LOL :D
Watched the Flames/Oilers game last night. 9-5 Flames. Oilers really need a goalie. D isn't very good either. Flames look very good right now.
Melnyk passes at the age of 62.
Who will win the Stanley Cup. I would love to see the Flames or the Rangers. But I think Colorado is just to good of a team not to win.
Wow, Carey Price played tonight.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 14, 2022, 07:39:40 PM
Who will win the Stanley Cup. I would love to see the Flames or the Rangers. But I think Colorado is just to good of a team not to win.
Ew, Rangers.
I want to see them make the final 4 to up the Copp pick to a first rounder and then have them fall on their faces.
Quote from: Jesse on April 20, 2022, 02:57:14 PM
Ew, Rangers.
I want to see them make the final 4 to up the Copp pick to a first rounder and then have them fall on their faces.
Agreed. Whatever helps the Jets with that trade is all that matters to me. I can't stand the Rangers - or any NY sports team now that I think of it.
Guy Lefleur passes away at the age of 70. What an incredible player.
Mike Bossy who passed last weekend was another incredible scoring machine. Both died far to young.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 23, 2022, 04:12:43 AM
Guy Lefleur passes away at the age of 70. What an incredible player.
Mike Bossy who passed last weekend was another incredible scoring machine. Both died far to young.
Smoking kills.
Can you imagine either one of these guys with a carbon fiber stick, instead of a wood Sherwood or Koho.
Loved seeing the Garbage Knights get eliminated last night. ;D
Toronto, Carolina, and LA, looked very good last night.
Penguins and Rangers, triple OT.
The triple OT was quite the game with the winner by Malkin on a nice deflection
Oilers need to win tonight
Some pretty wild playoff games so far in the first round. Shaping up to have some pretty good series.
Only team that anyone should be rooting for is the Rangers... the better they do, the better our draft becomes...
I just suspended my PVR series recordings for NHL... it was annoying having to cancel or delete all those games...
I didn't watch much of the Leaf game yesterday, but what I did watch seemed like Tampa was in full control.
Stars/Flames, was a very good game. Nashville played a good game, but Colorado just to good.
Some great hockey again yesterday. Lot's of great battles.
Barry Trotz let go by Isles with 1 year left on contract ......... hmmmmm
Kings were very strong vs Oilers last night ........ seemingly had a plan and all 4 lines contributed to the relentless hustle
Tampa just played their own game of possession with Leafs in a bit of chaos
How much did the Leafs lose by last night?
FORE!
Penguins crushing the Rangers. Totally out played them.
Pens are making things happen ?? and the Rangers, who depended too much on Shesterkin in regular season, are showing their weaknesses
Flames are dominating and just scored to make it 2-0 in third
Preds just might win this ?? oooops, tied now in third
Quote from: Pigskin on May 10, 2022, 03:45:53 AM
Penguins crushing the Rangers. Totally out played them.
Shesterkin is that team's MVP by a mile as far as the regular season goes. But the playoffs are a different animal and the Rangers just don't have what it takes. Outside of their netminding, they're not a strong team.
Always love to see the Predators get swept. ;D
LA/ Edmonton last night. Okay first of all the Nurse head butt was ridiculous. Why does a man that big have to head butt anybody. Should get 1 game for that. Then there's the knee on knee by Kane. That should be 2 games, another dangerous stupid play. Edmonton has far more talent then LA, but they continue to take stupid penalties.
Nurse gets one game for head butt.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 11, 2022, 09:59:13 PM
Nurse gets one game for head butt.
Good. That was slimy.
Trouba with an elbow to Sid's head, knocking Sid out of the game. I think Trouba will be hearing from the NHL.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 12, 2022, 02:54:29 PM
Trouba with an elbow to Sid's head, knocking Sid out of the game. I think Trouba will be hearing from the NHL.
Watched the hit a couple times, he might have raised his elbow, he might not have. Sid was moving too, and changed direction. If it was any other player getting hurt, I don't think this gets attention. I think the command centre is looking at it, but I don't think there is enough to warrant a call to Trouba...
Quote from: theaardvark on May 12, 2022, 05:01:58 PM
Watched the hit a couple times, he might have raised his elbow, he might not have. Sid was moving too, and changed direction. If it was any other player getting hurt, I don't think this gets attention. I think the command centre is looking at it, but I don't think there is enough to warrant a call to Trouba...
A Head hit on anyone is looked at today, just not the Superstars. Trouba makes sure his elbow makes contact with the off balance Crosby.
No hearing. Seemed pretty incidental from the replays shown.
Wild out. ;D
Edmonton played a good game last night. Leaf's are looking very strong right now.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 13, 2022, 05:11:32 PM
Edmonton played a good game last night. Leaf's are looking very strong right now.
More game 7 pressure on them now. On home ice, too.
Boudreau officially hired as HC of the Canucks.
LA has played very well considering, no Drew Doughty.
Capitals are out, but they gave the Panthers all they could handle.
CBC and Sportnet must be dying right now... 5 game 7's? I wonder if they pay by the series of by the game...
And that's it for the Leaf's and Bruins.
The Leafs have broken the 55 year speed limit...
0-10 in their last 10 elimination games.
This team does not seem to be able to win a playoff series. How long do they stick with Keefe? Do they make some roster moves?
Well the Oilers are into the 2nd round. Love to to see Calgary win tomorrow. Oiler/Flames would be a battle.
LA had a great series while missing Drew Doughty.
Well it's to bad that Sid had to sit out a game and a half. But better for the Jets.
Well it took 63 shots and OT, but Flames finally finish off the Stars. Now onto the battle of Alberta.
So, Trotz to the Leafs? As much as we need a change here, the Leafs are in real trouble. With that lineup, getting these results?
Could you imaging, Maurice getting the Leafs top job? And taking them to the cup? That thought just crossed my mind and now I'm going to have nightmares...
Great 1st. round of playoffs. I am looking for the same in the 2nd. round.
absolutely was stunned, time after time after time, that the Flames hadn't scored on so many earlier shots.
Ott was truly having and had, IMO, the Goalie game of the playoffs
World Championships: Team Canada.
PL80 4G 1A 5p
JA77 1G 4A 5p
AL17 1G 3A 4P
So, Trotz in the mix for Vegas? Do we lose a lot getting DeBoer instead?
Quote from: Pigskin on May 16, 2022, 03:52:03 AM
Well it's to bad that Sid had to sit out a game and a half. But better for the Jets.
Yeah, that Rangers' first round win is good for the Jets but they need to win another round to make it count.
So, the 'yotes won't be able to put thier logo's a the ASU ice surface... why is this embarrassment allowed? Is Glendale shuttering their arena during the time until the new arena is done?
Quote from: theaardvark on May 18, 2022, 02:06:26 PM
So, the 'yotes won't be able to put thier logo's a the ASU ice surface... why is this embarrassment allowed? Is Glendale shuttering their arena during the time until the new arena is done?
It's wild that this has been allowed to go on as long as it has.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 16, 2022, 03:10:25 PM
So, Trotz to the Leafs? As much as we need a change here, the Leafs are in real trouble. With that lineup, getting these results?
Could you imaging, Maurice getting the Leafs top job? And taking them to the cup? That thought just crossed my mind and now I'm going to have nightmares...
The Leafs are sticking with there coach and general manager. No changes for next season.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 18, 2022, 04:25:52 PM
The Leafs are sticking with there coach and general manager. No changes for next season.
Best news out there... now we will get one of Trotz or Deboer, so as long as Chevy doesn't cheap out on a recycled old friend, we should be on the right track...
Very good games last night, but I can't wait for the battle of Alberta to start.
Wild one with each team struggling when pressured resulting in turnovers and a 9-6 result
Meanwhile Rangers & Canes play speed game but with back checking for 2-1 Canes OT
Battle of Alberta was just sloppy hockey with very poor goaltending. That looked like some pee wee hockey.
Tkachuk chirps Kane about his money problems. Is that crossing the line, or is everything on the table.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 20, 2022, 04:28:26 PM
Tkachuk chirps Kane about his money problems. Is that crossing the line, or is everything on the table.
Definitely a d**k move.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 20, 2022, 04:28:26 PM
Tkachuk chirps Kane about his money problems. Is that crossing the line, or is everything on the table.
You expect less from Thachuk?
Does Kane deserve it? Maybe not, but maybe... he really hasn't been a jerk of late (that I've heard) , and it will be interesting to see if he turns the other cheek, or comes back at Tkachuk...
Quote from: Jesse on May 20, 2022, 05:10:39 PM
Definitely a d**k move.
I am not a big fan of Kane, but there some things you should stay away from. I wasn't into chirping when I played hockey, but it's a big part of the game now.
Canada gets slapped by the Swiss 6-3.
Canada gets beat by Denmark 3-2.
Canada plays Sweden in the quarter finals.
If you love wide open hockey, the battle of Alberta is it. Not much D and the goaltending hasn't been great.
Tortorella interviews with the Flyers.
Happy to watch Oilers winning some puck battles & games
Quite shocked at how the Panthers were eliminated ......... course TBay sure has an exceptional goalie
Never thought I'd ever see Evander Kane leading the NHL Playoffs in goals scored.
This is ********.
The man's life is a gong show. However he has had 9, 20 goals seasons in his 13 year career. I think right now he's playing the best hockey of his life. Playing with Connor/Draisaitl is a big bonus, and he's looking for a contract for next season.
Huge, gigantic comeback, down 3-0 entering 3rd period, by the Canadian squad today over Sweden in the Qtr. Finals 4-3 in OT
Canada out shot Sweden 42 -19, and I think it was 19-1 in the second period. One shot in the OT was all we needed. CZE and Canada in the semi-finals. PL80 with a 2 point night.
Oiler's moving on.
Drassaitl, excuse the spelling, and McD are quite amazing
A Canadian team may have a chance against Avs.
That was not a kicking motion. The puck would have continued into the net unimpeded anyway.
Yes, NHL war room deserves criticism for this bad decision, but really, does it make a difference?
CGY out in 5 vs. CGY out in 6? The only ones hosed here were EDM. They lose a home playoff game. You realize the $$$ they lost?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 27, 2022, 12:30:35 PM
A Canadian team may have a chance against Avs.
The Oilers are going to have to play much better D against the Avs. I don't think the AVs. will play the run and gun like the flames did.
Avs and Oilers should be a good one. Avs 5-0 on the road so far in the play-offs.
The boys have arrived at the lake. Not much going to happen here until the Canada/CZE game is done. Well I guess we will BQ some lunch for the ladies when they get here. lol
Canada to much for the CZE. 5-1 with 10 minutes left. Cozens looks good with PL80.
Cozens with another goal. 6-1
Well I have seen enough, Canada and Finland for the Gold.
PL80, Cozens, and Graves three best players for Canada.
Time to catch some fish.
1-0 Canada. Cozens on the PP.
Canada with 3 penalties in a row. Finland with two 5 on 3's. Terrible call on the 3rd. penalty. No high stick on that call.
Finland score on PP.
Canada with there 3rd string goal in now.
Finland with another PP goal.
Finns up 3-1.
Canada ties it up with a minute left.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 29, 2022, 06:15:45 PM
1-0 Canada. Cozens on the PP.
Canada with 3 penalties in a row. Finland with two 5 on 3's. Terrible call on the 3rd. penalty. No high stick on that call.
Finland score on PP.
Canada with there 3rd string goal in now.
Finland with another PP goal.
Finns up 3-1.
Canada ties it up with a minute left.
Overtime
Finland wins 4-3 in OT on a PP.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 29, 2022, 08:07:46 PM
Finland wins 4-3 in OT on a PP.
dammit thanks for spoiling it. Wrong page. NHL not IIHF! >:(
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 29, 2022, 08:59:52 PM
dammit thanks for spoiling it. Wrong page. NHL not IIHF! >:(
It only took you 13 days to figure that out. lol
Breaking news:
Huge fire on a golf course in Alberta.
Flames everywhere....
Game 7 tonight Rangers/Canes. Should be a good one.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 30, 2022, 05:30:27 PM
Game 7 tonight Rangers/Canes. Should be a good one.
Really hoping the Rangers win... then we have 2 first rounders, and maybe we can package them to move up...
Quote from: theaardvark on May 30, 2022, 05:40:01 PM
Really hoping the Rangers win... then we have 2 first rounders, and maybe we can package them to move up...
Been cheering for them this whole time.
One more game!
Copp hasn't played very well the last two games. -3 and no points. I think he has to have a good game for the Rangers to win in Carolina.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 30, 2022, 06:19:55 PM
Copp hasn't played very well the last two games. -3 and no points. I think he has to have a good game for the Rangers to win in Carolina.
What's interesting about the Rangers is their below average possession analytics. Without Shesterkin between the pipes, they probably don't make the playoffs. He had a fantastic season.
Let's just hope he can work more of his magic tonight. I won't hold my breath considering the road team in this series is yet to win a game, though.
Rangers moving on. One day rest and back at it.
Glad the Rangers proved me wrong last night. ;D
Should be two really exciting conference finals starting tonight!
Quote from: Pigskin on April 14, 2022, 07:39:40 PM
Who will win the Stanley Cup. I would love to see the Flames or the Rangers. But I think Colorado is just to good of a team not to win.
One of my teams left. Edmonton is playing well, but I still think Colorado is a better a defensive team.
So, now we root AGAINST the Rangers... not like we have to, the Bolts will destroy them. Unless Rumplsherstiken stands on his head again.
Quicker they lose, the better our draft pick is...
New York Rangers@NYRangers
#NYR GM Chris Drury: "After the game last night, I was going around, seeing the players, and Copper looked up at me and said, ?Sorry about your first.??
Oilers need to try and play some D. Smith was terrible.
These are going to be completely different series... the east featuring two shutdown goalers, and the west two high powered O's... take the over on the west and the under on the east each game...
Rangers played a very good game. Bolts looked flat.
Great victory by the Rangers and what a super effort by Shesterkin
Sherstiken won that game. In the limited time I watched, the Bolts had zero puck luck, pucks bounced over sticks on for sure goal setups...
If the Bolts win game 2, and take home ice advantage, I can see it going 7 with the bolts winning... but they need game 2
Oilers are going to have to try and play some D tonight.
Oilers completely shut down tonight.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/tempe-city-council-votes-to-continue-negotiating-arena-deal-with-coyotes/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/tempe-city-council-votes-to-continue-negotiating-arena-deal-with-coyotes/)
Quote
Tempe city council has voted to open negotiations over a proposal for a new home for the Arizona Coyotes.
The vote, which was 5-2, took place at the end of a marathon eight-hour special session held by the city council for the city, which is a suburb of Phoenix. Comments from more than 100 citizens and the reading of more than 220 written statements were included in the meeting.
The vote does not signal an approval of the arena, but opens the door for further study and public input on the nearly $2 billion project.
The meeting was held after the city issued a request for proposal almost a year ago for a sports and entertainment district at a 46-acre site that is currently a dump. Another wrinkle to the location is that it falls near the end of a runway at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport.
The airport authorities, who also made a presentation at the meeting, were adamant that any proposal should not proceed if it included residential development, due to noise hazard.
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman spoke remotely and promised the new arena would be given both an All-Star Game and the NHL Draft if built. Bettman also said that the Coyotes would not be allowed to move for 30 years.
The Coyotes have already made arrangements to play for at least the next three seasons at the 4,700-seat Arizona State University arena, beginning this fall.
Why are the Coyotes out of Glendale? Are they usin that arena for something else? Are they redeveloping it? Because it was a decent building and holds (well, can hold) more than 5000 fans and they can put their logo at centre ice...
If its just because the yotes can't pay their bills, how much rent is better than zero rent? Sure, you have fewer expense on a vacant property, but surely the businesses around it generate taxes, and the yotes can pay something... they'll have to at ASU...
I get that it has been a contentious relationship since they arrived... but running out the clock on the bldg while the yotes find a new home seems a win/win... wheras this situation everyone loses in.
Maybe they end up in Quebec City for a couple years...
Quote from: theaardvark on June 03, 2022, 05:46:10 PM
Why are the Coyotes out of Glendale? Are they usin that arena for something else? Are they redeveloping it? Because it was a decent building and holds (well, can hold) more than 5000 fans and they can put their logo at centre ice...
If its just because the yotes can't pay their bills, how much rent is better than zero rent? Sure, you have fewer expense on a vacant property, but surely the businesses around it generate taxes, and the yotes can pay something... they'll have to at ASU...
I get that it has been a contentious relationship since they arrived... but running out the clock on the bldg while the yotes find a new home seems a win/win... wheras this situation everyone loses in.
Maybe they end up in Quebec City for a couple years...
It's a ridiculously odd situation with that franchise, but that's been the case for years now.
What I don't understand is why the NHL continues to coddle the Coyotes despite the myriad of problems that have plagued the franchise for at least the last decade or so. I mean, the financial issues alone should've been reason enough to relocate the franchise some years ago but the league, Bettman in particular, maintains his support. It's weird.
I doubt Quebec City is an option for relocation of this franchise but I'm basing that purely - and speculatively - on the Coyotes being moved to the Central Division last year. To me, that seems like it could be a safety net of sorts in the event the Coyotes are relocated, to a city like Houston or Kansas City without disrupting the divisions.
The word "coddle" as earlier mentioned is perfect in explaining the history of this travesty
This just in the Oilers suck! Mike Smith is a siv again.
Tampa with 51 shots win a close one.
So, should Kane be suspended?
For the rest of the season?
So, 1 game?
He got the rest of the season...
One game
Wonder how this affects his chances of a "redemption contract" for next year. For all the good he did, is all that out the window now?
Probably doesn't affect it at all.
His negative attributes have nothing to do with the on-ice product. He's never been a dirty player. One suspension doesn't change that.
Quote from: Jesse on June 06, 2022, 02:08:44 PM
Probably doesn't affect it at all.
His negative attributes have nothing to do with the on-ice product. He's never been a dirty player. One suspension doesn't change that.
Its getting suspended for the most important game of the season... but hey, yeah, he's not a dirty player. Just one not in the lineup when you need him most because of a dumb play.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 06, 2022, 03:11:30 PM
Its getting suspended for the most important game of the season... but hey, yeah, he's not a dirty player. Just one not in the lineup when you need him most because of a dumb play.
Yeah, I don't want him on my team.
It's just not something that's going to come up in contract negotiations. He has lots of other stuff that will, of course.
Quote from: Jesse on June 06, 2022, 04:53:59 PM
Yeah, I don't want him on my team.
It's just not something that's going to come up in contract negotiations. He has lots of other stuff that will, of course.
His main selling point is his performance with McJesus and Dryheaves during the playoffs. So capping that off with a suspension for the most important elimination game... kinda kills off all the good that went before.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 06, 2022, 04:56:51 PM
His main selling point is his performance with McJesus and Dryheaves during the playoffs. So capping that off with a suspension for the most important elimination game... kinda kills off all the good that went before.
It doesn't for me. He a power forward that can score and make things happen. He got another chance and has played well with McDavid. McDavid wants him back next year. I just can't see the Oilers having the money to sign him. I think DN25 new contract kicks in next year at $9M plus. They also have to sign KY56.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 06, 2022, 04:56:51 PM
His main selling point is his performance with McJesus and Dryheaves during the playoffs. So capping that off with a suspension for the most important elimination game... kinda kills off all the good that went before.
It doesn't in any way.
Will it prevent him from scoring next season? Nope.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 06, 2022, 05:39:11 PM
It doesn't for me. He a power forward that can score and make things happen. He got another chance and has played well with McDavid. McDavid wants him back next year. I just can't see the Oilers having the money to sign him. I think DN25 new contract kicks in next year at $9M plus. They also have to sign KY56.
So, what kind of contract can Kane expect based on this limited performance? Is he a one year $1mil guy, or can he get a multi year deal? Will he bet on himself again, and put in a whole year to prove himself, or does he think he deserves a multiyear 6 mil contract now? Is there someone out there desperate enough to sign him?
Oilers put up a very good fight tonight, but the Ava's are just good. Sweep.
Bruins fired HC Cassidy yesterday. Weird move.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 07, 2022, 01:35:39 PM
Bruins fired HC Cassidy yesterday. Weird move.
Hearing two thoughts out there...
"Oh no, another possible competitor for Trotz"
and
"If we don't get Trotz, another good candidate available in Cassidy"
Roslovic re-signs with the Jackets: https://www.tsn.ca/columbus-blue-jackets-jack-roslovic-extension-1.1809687 (https://www.tsn.ca/columbus-blue-jackets-jack-roslovic-extension-1.1809687)
2 years, $4M AAV.
Nice deal for JR. Had a good season with 45 points.
Bolts played a very good game.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 08, 2022, 03:33:13 AM
Bolts played a very good game.
Wouldn't shock me at all if they win out the next two. Last night was a dominant performance.
This was a very good game, but in the end the Bolts were just to much for the Rangers.
Rangers are done, IMO. Momentum has been all Bolts the last two games.
Bolts are doing this without Brayden Point who is a big part of there O.
Bolts vs Avs ?? fantastic
Should be a great series, however I have only been catching the 3rd. period of games lately because there is so much to do at this time of the year. Walleye's biting like crazy last night at the lake.
Looks like the Oiler are looking at buy out Kassian. 2 more season 3.2M AAV.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/oilers-koskinen-signs-two-year-contract-in-switzerland/
signs elsewhere
https://www.tsn.ca/vegas-golden-knights-hire-bruce-cassidy-boston-bruins-peter-deboer-1.1813030 (https://www.tsn.ca/vegas-golden-knights-hire-bruce-cassidy-boston-bruins-peter-deboer-1.1813030)
Cassidy to the Knights.
Cassidy is certainly a good signing for Vegas
Flyers offer Tortorella head coach position.
Quote from: Jockitch on June 14, 2022, 11:01:35 PM
Cassidy is certainly a good signing for Vegas
Agreed. He's a solid coach. Although, coaching has never been the issue there, IMO. Gallant and DeBoer both got raw deals.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 15, 2022, 07:09:46 AM
Flyers offer Tortorella head coach position.
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/flyers/flyers-offering-john-tortorella-head-coaching-job-source (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/flyers/flyers-offering-john-tortorella-head-coaching-job-source)
Good for the Jets. Have fun with that, Philly. :D
So, sounding better and better on the Trotz watch...
Loved the outcome .......... speed was great
Epic first game of the SCF.
https://www.tsn.ca/gary-bettman-nhl-projected-to-set-revenue-record-this-season-1.1813618 (https://www.tsn.ca/gary-bettman-nhl-projected-to-set-revenue-record-this-season-1.1813618)
Good news for the league.
saw a sports flash, with apparent details to follow that Montreal has traded their captain Weber to Vegas for Dadonov
Good move by Montreal, Weber is never going to play again. Need to do the same with Price.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 12, 2022, 05:13:41 PM
Should be a great series, however I have only been catching the 3rd. period of games lately because there is so much to do at this time of the year. Walleye's biting like crazy last night at the lake.
What lake are you fishing on??
Quote from: dd on June 18, 2022, 02:55:26 AM
What lake are you fishing on??
Lake of the Woods. Fishing today was so good. One walleye after another.
What a beat down last night. Only watched some of the third period and the highlights, but the Bolts just didn't look interested. One thing we did notice was how good the Ava's 4th. line is. Something we need to improve.
Quite agree bout the Jets need to improve the 4th line ........ the Avs victory was such a great team effort of maintenance in all zones
Quote from: Pigskin on June 19, 2022, 04:33:46 PM
What a beat down last night. Only watched some of the third period and the highlights, but the Bolts just didn't look interested.
One of the most lopsided SCF games in history. The Avs were otherworldly on Saturday night.
If the Bolts don't win tonight, I can see the Avs getting the sweep.
Bolts had a very good game to night.
Woodcroft gets 3 years deal with the Oilers.
NHL Awards handed out ....... my surprise was that Josi did not get D-man of the Year ( Makar did ).
Paul Maurice is off to Sunrise to be the next coach of the Panthers. Three year deal, per Dreger on Twitter.
Another landing spot for Trotz off the table...
Beginning to look a lot more likely he comes here...
Good luck for PM with the Panthers
Previous interim coach Brunette must still be shaken as to why he didn't get the position
Panther, terrible in the playoffs????
Fantastic surge of the Avs after the 1st period.
Think the fleet legs and tenacity of the Avs wore away at the skill of the Bolts
Both goalies were outstanding but feel Colorado deserved of the victory
Nice win by the Bolts.
Ava's just to much for the Tampa.
Let the off-season begin! Lots to come in the next few weeks.
Nice move by the Kings in getting Kevin Fiala from the Wild ...... then he signs for a big 7 years at close to $8.M A.A.V.
Maybe Tocchett turned down the Jet offer cuz ...... the Sharks fired all their coaches this morning
Perhaps he wants a chance to coach in a warmer climate
Bolts send D McDonagh to the Predators: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/lightning-trade-defenceman-ryan-mcdonagh-to-predators/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/lightning-trade-defenceman-ryan-mcdonagh-to-predators/)
Brock Boeser 3 yrs- 19.95M.
Draft day #1 may truly, course I?m psyched for, provide some big shuffles
The Devils made it known that #2 pick is up for offers ?.. Panthers or Vegas may be a winner here
Carolina are allowing Necas and DeAngelo to find a trade partner for them ?.. maybe Devil?s pick
Coyotes have 3 picks in Rd#1 and need a few expensive contracts to get to Cap $$ Floor minimum
Can?t help but suspect that the Habs are trying hard to shake PLD from Chevy?s hold.
Would anticipate the Arena would be giving GM Hughes a standing ovation
A few nice trades so far. I wonder if there is any chance we could move up to #2.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 07, 2022, 10:24:31 PM
A few nice trades so far. I wonder if there is any chance we could move up to #2.
That seems unlikely...
Quote from: Jesse on July 07, 2022, 10:40:25 PM
That seems unlikely...
Yeah. And more importantly, why?
How did we miss out on Debrincat? Yikes... he would have been nice with Conner and PLD... or Perfetti...
Quote from: theaardvark on July 07, 2022, 10:59:36 PM
How did we miss out on Debrincat? Yikes... he would have been nice with Conner and PLD... or Perfetti...
Missed out? Meh.
Slafkovsky goes first overall. I'm interested to see who takes Wright now.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 07, 2022, 11:49:37 PM
Missed out? Meh.
Slafkovsky goes first overall. I'm interested to see who takes Wright now.
40 goal RW... if they are moving Wheeler, its a no brainer... 6.4 cap hit... 9 mil actual paycheck... RFA after 2023...
Quote from: theaardvark on July 07, 2022, 11:55:43 PM
40 goal RW... if they are moving Wheeler, its a no brainer... 6.4 cap hit... 9 mil actual paycheck... RFA after 2023...
If. A big if. Wheeler hasn't been moved, though. So, there's goes the if.
Not saying DeBrincat isn't a good forward but I also don't think the Jets "missed out" because the Hawks opted to trade him to a team not in the Western Conference.
The Kraken getting Wright is a nice move. I think he's going to be a great player in a few years.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 08, 2022, 12:04:44 AM
If. A big if. Wheeler hasn't been moved, though. So, there's goes the if.
Not saying DeBrincat isn't a good forward but I also don't think the Jets "missed out" because the Hawks opted to trade him to a team not in the Western Conference.
Even if they don't trade wheeler, they still need a #1 RW... 41 goals twice in a 5 year career....
Quote from: theaardvark on July 08, 2022, 12:17:38 AM
Even if they don't trade wheeler, they still need a #1 RW... 41 goals twice in a 5 year career....
I don't really know what to tell you, man. The Hawks seem to be retooling based on their two trades today (DeBrincat to OTT and Dach to MTL), but that doesn't mean the Jets missed out.
Geekie to the Yotes. Bah.
Another Manitoba boy gone.
Pickering for the Jets??
A LW? With Conner and Ehlers, how does this make sense? With RW and RHD on the board, why?
Quote from: theaardvark on July 08, 2022, 01:06:08 AM
A LW? With Conner and Ehlers, how does this make sense? With RW and RHD on the board, why?
He shoots L but he's listed as C/RW: https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/526095/rutger-mcgroarty (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/526095/rutger-mcgroarty)
Bryan Marchment passed away at 53!?!? Holy crap, that?s a shock. Condolences to his family
Quote from: theaardvark on July 08, 2022, 01:06:08 AM
A LW? With Conner and Ehlers, how does this make sense? With RW and RHD on the board, why?
You draft the best player on the board. It?s going to be years before they come up and play in the NHL. You don?t pick (or not pick) a position because of who?s currently under contract.
Montreal picked up some size and talent today. Dach 6' 4" / 200lb. Slafkovsky 6'4" / 230lb.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 07, 2022, 10:59:36 PM
How did we miss out on Debrincat? Yikes... he would have been nice with Conner and PLD... or Perfetti...
We didn?t have the 7th overall pick to give away? Chicago did this with a particular player in mind.
And one of our goals this year is to restock our prospect pool. Couldn?t afford to give away our entire draft class - even if it would have worked.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 08, 2022, 01:08:28 AM
He shoots L but he's listed as C/RW: https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/526095/rutger-mcgroarty (https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/526095/rutger-mcgroarty)
Yes, the list I was looking at had him as LW... both picks are C... 1 LS, 1 RS..
Whiole these players may not play right away, you'd hope they'd get into the lineup in a few years... and those guys are under contract, Ehlers until 25, Connor until 26...
Sounds like Copp is going home to be a Red Wing. Dreger's saying 4-6 years at $5M per.
Comrie reportedly signs with the Sabres, 2 years, $1.8M AAV.
Congrats to Comrie and Copp
supposedly Gaudreau just signed in Columbus
WOWEE ?.. 7 years with a $9.75 M AAV
Oil loading up and still shopping
They will be good this year
Got Kane for a steal
Montreal trades Petry
If PLD goes to Habs, do the Jets swing for Kadri at say $7.750M at 5-6 years
Quote from: Jockitch on July 17, 2022, 11:59:52 AM
If PLD goes to Habs, do the Jets swing for Kadri at say $7.750M at 5-6 years
He says he?ll only go to a contender.
Quote from: Jockitch on July 17, 2022, 11:59:52 AM
If PLD goes to Habs, do the Jets swing for Kadri at say $7.750M at 5-6 years
Isn't Kadri 34?
Quote from: Pigskin on July 17, 2022, 01:24:46 PM
Isn't Kadri 34?
31.. but that's beside the point... does he fit? Not sure he does... sure he has skill and grit... but team mindset?
Kadri would never come here, he?s staying right where he is
With Calgary rumoured to have offered upwards of $10mil, I can see the list of teams Khadri can be afforded by as very, very small. He's a 6-7mil player, tops, IMHO, and even then, he's a specific role player that a team has to need. And extending him a 6 or 7 year deal is going to bite that team in the butt year 4, I think.
PLD has to declare if he intends to go to arbitration today, if he does, we have him for 1-2 years at a reasonable rate, if not, everything is back on the table. If we can get him on a 1 year ARB or Bridge, and give him a great year as Captain (having moved Wheeler) with KC81 and CO91 on his wings, then there is a chance we can extend him before we lose him. Especially is MTL sucks bad, and we make the playoffs.
Not sure why MTL would not offer Suzuki back in a trade, he would be a luxury with PLD there, and they have depth at C. I know, you always want to "win" a trade, so keeping both would be huge, but they are already cap heavy, trying to fit his $7,875,000 hit and PLD's $8mil+ under the cap is going to be tough, especially with Price eating up $10.5 mil. That's 1/3 of your cap in 3 players...
Suzuki and a 2nd for PLD and Heinola. Get back a top C with lots of term at a decent price... would love to see Suzuki, KC81 and CP91.. that would be fast as smooth
PL80, Tkachuk, and PL29, all decide against arbitration.
Quote from: dd on July 17, 2022, 03:59:18 PM
Kadri would never come here, he?s staying right where he is
The Avs haven't offered him a contract since FA began. It remains to be seen where he winds up next season.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 18, 2022, 03:45:27 AM
PL80, Tkachuk, and PL29, all decide against arbitration.
What a strange off-season so far.
Flames block MT from offer sheet. We should do the same with PL80.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 19, 2022, 03:29:50 AM
Flames block MT from offer sheet. We should do the same with PL80.
Really? Don't you want an offer sheet on him? If its low enough and the right term, we match. The higher it goes, the bigger the compensation if we let him go.
Over $6,302,230 to $8,402,975
First-round pick
Second-round pick
Third-round pick
Over $8,402,975 to $10,503,720
2 First-round picks
Second-round pick
Third-round pick
Over $10,503,720
4 First-round picks
And the Canadians have all their picks in place to make any of those offers...
Quote from: theaardvark on July 19, 2022, 07:24:00 AM
Really? Don't you want an offer sheet on him? If its low enough and the right term, we match. The higher it goes, the bigger the compensation if we let him go.
Over $6,302,230 to $8,402,975
First-round pick
Second-round pick
Third-round pick
Over $8,402,975 to $10,503,720
2 First-round picks
Second-round pick
Third-round pick
Over $10,503,720
4 First-round picks
And the Canadians have all their picks in place to make any of those offers...
So, now you don't want to keep Dubois and rebuild the team around him as captain...?
Quote from: theaardvark on July 19, 2022, 07:24:00 AM
Really? Don't you want an offer sheet on him? If its low enough and the right term, we match. The higher it goes, the bigger the compensation if we let him go.
Over $6,302,230 to $8,402,975
First-round pick
Second-round pick
Third-round pick
Over $8,402,975 to $10,503,720
2 First-round picks
Second-round pick
Third-round pick
Over $10,503,720
4 First-round picks
And the Canadians have all their picks in place to make any of those offers...
Draft picks take far to long to develop, unless there in the top 5. So no I would rather trade our future Captain for another top 2 center.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 19, 2022, 01:38:17 PM
So, now you don't want to keep Dubois and rebuild the team around him as captain...?
All for keeping the Dubois who said he wants to be a Jet for a long time. Not sure if he still exists, and this is just his agent making waves and posturing, or if he is truly anxious to get out of town.
Just saying, an offer sheet sets the mark, we either match and use that time to make him feel at home, or take the assets... and yes DP's take time to develop, but in a rebuild, you have time, and if we move on from PLD, it sounds like it will be at least a partial rebuild...
Quote from: theaardvark on July 19, 2022, 04:03:42 PM
All for keeping the Dubois who said he wants to be a Jet for a long time. Not sure if he still exists, and this is just his agent making waves and posturing, or if he is truly anxious to get out of town.
Just saying, an offer sheet sets the mark, we either match and use that time to make him feel at home, or take the assets... and yes DP's take time to develop, but in a rebuild, you have time, and if we move on from PLD, it sounds like it will be at least a partial rebuild...
When did he even say that? When he was traded here last year, what I recall is he said he was happy to part of this organization and looked forward to playing with the team. Nothing tangible beyond that, though.
Recent events seem to point to a pattern with Dubois - and it isn't flattering. Considering he attended the draft in Montreal, ostensibly with the expectation he'd be traded, it certainly doesn't seem like he wants to be here anymore at all. Even his words from a couple of months ago about wanting to stay until 2024 ring hollow now. Integrity out the window.
I think it's fair to say he took this organization and its fans for fools. He only cares about himself.
An offer sheet won?t happen for a lot of different reasons.
The only thing possible is a player for player(s) trade.
The best case scenario for the Jets is PLD comes in, plays the best year of his life, and we?re able to trade him at the deadline to a contender. Any other situation involves us giving him away to Montreal for used hockey pucks.
truly would want Dubois as a Jet for the rest of my Senior lifetime, however, if we got the Habs first picks in each of the 3 rounds ...... Hmmm ?
Perhaps the Jets could turn the 2nd Rd pick into a middle six center or wing
Quote from: Jockitch on July 19, 2022, 07:56:32 PM
truly would want Dubois as a Jet for the rest of my Senior lifetime, however, if we got the Habs first picks in each of the 3 rounds ...... Hmmm ?
Perhaps the Jets could turn the 2nd Rd pick into a middle six center or wing
Crummy part is those draft picks don't address immediate need and those picks also have to develop, which takes time.
This is just a craptacular situation all-around. And it's just another on a pile of them so far with the Jets during this nightmarish off-season.
Quote from: Jockitch on July 19, 2022, 07:56:32 PM
truly would want Dubois as a Jet for the rest of my Senior lifetime, however, if we got the Habs first picks in each of the 3 rounds ...... Hmmm ?
Perhaps the Jets could turn the 2nd Rd pick into a middle six center or wing
Montreal is a rebuilding team. They aren?t giving us any draft picks.
PLD has intentionally trashed his value. We are screwed.
Reports are that MT turned down a 9M qualifying offer.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 20, 2022, 05:47:25 PM
Reports are that MT turned down a 9M qualifying offer.
he will get 10 mil eventually. Tough to be a Flame fan now. They are getting scalped. And his team trade list gets leaked! Lol what a joke.
So, Winnipeg is not the only team with an exodus...
Quote from: theaardvark on July 21, 2022, 03:28:05 AM
So, Winnipeg is not the only team with an exodus...
Exodus seems like quite the stretch here.
Besides Dubois, who else on the Jets has said they want out right now?Gaudreau and Tkachuk are the only two who have left the Flames. Gaudreau was a UFA and had his reasons, which he penned in an article earlier this week explaining them. Tkachuk, OTOH, is doing the oh-so-typical American in Canada RFA thing. And it's not a good look at all.
Laine re-signs with CBJ, 4 years, $8.7M AAV.
Quote from: Jesse on July 22, 2022, 07:25:39 PM
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Not all rosy in Columbus, though. They just had to trade Bjorkstrand for a couple of picks in order to get closer to the cap ceiling.
https://www.tsn.ca/oliver-bjorkstrand-trade-seattle-kraken-columbus-blue-jackets-1.1828278 (https://www.tsn.ca/oliver-bjorkstrand-trade-seattle-kraken-columbus-blue-jackets-1.1828278)
Bjorkstrand?s contract dump was certainly due, in most part, to Laine?s new contract
It was a necessary move by their GM
Amazing return for Flames with dumping Tkachuk for Huberdeau & Weeger . The NHL GM?s all knew that Treliving had to move him and that?s what surprised me about the return.
Quote from: Jockitch on July 23, 2022, 03:52:08 AM
Amazing return for Flames with dumping Tkachuk for Huberdeau & Weeger . The NHL GM?s all knew that Treliving had to move him and that?s what surprised me about the return.
The trade sounds a lot better than it is. Both players have one year left on their deals and, even if Huberdeau resigns, you're paying for his back-9.
Quote from: Jesse on July 23, 2022, 12:29:15 PM
The trade sounds a lot better than it is. Both players have one year left on their deals and, even if Huberdeau resigns, you're paying for his back-9.
This. It's important to look into the specifics when seeing how good a trade actually looks. The Flames get two solid players for a season but that's about it.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 25, 2022, 03:57:29 PM
This. It's important to look into the specifics when seeing how good a trade actually looks. The Flames get two solid players for a season but that's about it.
I am not gonna speculate what either Weeger or Huberdeau does after next year as I know very little of them lately. Who knows what they do. They could resign. Huberdeau could not of been impressed with this move I speculate.
Both are playing for their next contract, so CGY will get a good season out of them, and if they are sellers at the deadline, they will make a very good haul for them...
The Ducks just upgraded by landing Klingberg ....... though for only 1 year at an okay $7.M
Quote from: theaardvark on July 26, 2022, 01:33:26 AM
Both are playing for their next contract, so CGY will get a good season out of them, and if they are sellers at the deadline, they will make a very good haul for them...
Jonathon Huberdeau signs a new 8 year deal for $84M.
Very good signing, which sends positive signals out to others playing in Cdn markets
That's a solid move by the Flames. Not sure how well that AAV ages, though.
Quote from: Jesse on July 23, 2022, 12:29:15 PM
...if Huberdeau resigns, you're paying for his back-9.
This.
Quote from: Jockitch on August 05, 2022, 09:38:09 AM
Very good signing, which sends positive signals out to others playing in Cdn markets
it does but Huberdeau got a monumental deal for a guy his age!
https://www.tsn.ca/boston-bruins-re-sign-patrice-bergeron-1.1834148 (https://www.tsn.ca/boston-bruins-re-sign-patrice-bergeron-1.1834148)
Great deal for the Bruins.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 08, 2022, 01:50:22 PM
https://www.tsn.ca/boston-bruins-re-sign-patrice-bergeron-1.1834148 (https://www.tsn.ca/boston-bruins-re-sign-patrice-bergeron-1.1834148)
Great deal for the Bruins.
To bad we don't have Wheels on something like this.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 08, 2022, 03:56:42 PM
To bad we don't have Wheels on something like this.
In hindsight, it would certainly help.
Anyway, I wish the Jets could sign Stastny to a one or two-year deal like the Bruins did with Bergeron or Krejci.
Dave Lowry joins the Kraken as an assistant coach.
Congrats to Dave Lowry
Trouba has been awarded the 28th Captaincy of the New York Rangers
They have had no captain since 2017-18 season
Sounds like the Flames are signing UFA Nazem Kadri and in order to do so, they're shipping off F Sean Monahan to MTL.
Flames are going to look very different this season.
Flames have done well to shore up the roster after the Johnny Hockey & Kachunk losses
Kadri should be a solid 2nd line center and of course the earlier addition of Huberdeau is terrific
Weager helps push the defence to the very good level and with Markstrom in goal - - WOWEE
Calgary tries to hard to win! Winnipeg rests on there bloody butts. Does nothing essentially. I expect the same ineptitude as last season. Bravo Chevy. Great job pal.
Sound like Monahan and a 2025 first round pick to Montreal, for undisclosed??
Paul Stastny to the Hurricanes.
Cap Friendly reporting , at 1 today, that contract details aren't confirmed but indeed it appears to be $1.5M for Stash
Very nice to the Canes.
Our roster looks worse than the non play entry from last year.
I do not see much reason for excitement with current roster state.
Keith Yandle, PK Subban, and Zdeno Chara have all announced their retirements from the NHL.
Avs re-up MacKinnon, 8 years @ $12.6M AAV. He's now the highest paid player in the NHL.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 20, 2022, 03:59:06 PM
Keith Yandle, PK Subban, and Zdeno Chara have all announced their retirements from the NHL.
Favorite big Z memory is him absolutely rag-dolling Bryan McCabe.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 20, 2022, 05:58:19 PM
Avs re-up MacKinnon, 8 years @ $12.6M AAV. He's now the highest paid player in the NHL.
As he should be
Montreal beats Toronto. Nice win for the habs.
Calgary looked very good tonight. I noticed they also don't have a captain.
Calgary with a nice win over the Oilers.
Eric Comrie played very well in his first start this season.
Bruins are 9-1, the Knights are 9-2. Great starts for both teams.
Watched a little bit of the Oilers and Devils last night. New Jersey has a pretty good group. Down 3-1, came back to win it 4-3.
what did everyone think of Buffalo's white uniforms.
Missed seeing Sabres wh uni in a game but looked on Google ........ seems pretty nice
Comrie has had a rough time statistically while Brossoit was shown the door by Vegas
I thought it was the Spengler Cup for a second.
Borje Salming dies at 71. What a treat he was to watch. RIP.
35-year-old Kris Letang has suffered his 2nd. stroke.
So unfortunate for Letang . He?s presently 35 and sadly an early retirement might on the horizon
and now he's back practicing just 11 days after suffering a Stroke Hockey is in his blood
Letang back on the ice skating today.
Sounds like Letang will play tonight.
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/former-consultant-files-100-million-lawsuit-against-nhlpa-1.1904114
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A former senior consultant to the National Hockey League Players? Association has filed a $100-milllion lawsuit against his former employer, alleging that the union misused his confidential information to pursue claims that NHL teams had underreported revenue, which allowed them to pay less money to players.
Richard Rodier made the allegation in a lawsuit filed Jan. 6 in Ontario Superior Court in Toronto. Rodier, who did not explain in his lawsuit why he has demanded so much money, has asked the court to order the NHLPA to provide a full accounting of all revenue received, or to be received, from the NHL on or after he sent a memo to the NHLPA on May 11, 2018, about potential situations where teams might be misreporting hockey-related revenue (HRR).
Rodier wrote in his lawsuit that the confidential information he provided to the NHLPA in the May 2018 memorandum was instrumental to the NHLPA pursuing claims from the league that resulted in additional revenue.
Caufield out for the season with shoulder surgery.
Watching the Bruce Boudreau fiasco play out was pretty sad and puts a really bad look on the Canuck organization. They left him hanging for at least a week amidst rumours he would be fired, even with reporters interviewing Rick Tocchet about his being hired as the new coach before Boudreau was let go.
I am no Canuck fan by any stretch but their (Aquilini and Canuck management) handling of this situation was pretty damning. Hard to imagine that the coach is the problem for an under performing team that has had issues that began prior to the hiring of Boudreau. But, as usual, it is easier to fire the coach than the players.
Canuck's ownership/management 10 year record in hiring/firing...
Vigneault fired 2013
Gillis fired 2014
Tortorella fired 2014
Desjardins fired 2017
Linden fired 2018
Green fired 2021
Benning fired 2021
Boudreau fired 2023
Yeah, that was pretty gross all around. And they're continual firing of guys shows where the problem lies - and it ain't the coaches.
The Canucks' front office is a garbage dump right now. They did Boudreau dirty.
It's going to be hard to retain quality players.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 23, 2023, 03:58:25 PM
The Canucks' front office is a garbage dump right now. They did Boudreau dirty.
It's going to be hard to retain quality players.
Agree. That was terrible to watch.
Matthews out for three weeks with a knee injury.
Bobby Hull Dies at the age of 84.
Horvat to the Islanders.
Am a Horvat fan so I really do feel that this is a winning move for the Iles
Certainly will be interested to see how he fits
Canucks must wait for results on the ice but quite a start for Cap relief
Quote from: Jockitch on January 31, 2023, 07:01:47 AM
Am a Horvat fan so I really do feel that this is a winning move for the Iles
Certainly will be interested to see how he fits
Canucks must wait for results on the ice but quite a start for Cap relief
Isles got a very instant, productive player who can score goals and lead a team. Canucks have to hope something comes from the players and draft pick they received in return. Canucks trade and fire players and coaches whereas the real problem may be the ones making these decisions.
Good trade for both teams, IMO.
An unsignable player on an expiring contract... VCR got max return for him.
The first rounder is top 12 protected this year, but not next if it gets defferred...
Interesting: Bruins, and Stars have both lost 3 straight. Knights losers of 4 straight. Looks like a few other good teams have ran out of gas just before the break.
A couple of good match ups tonight. Canes @ Sabres. Bruins @ Leafs.
The Canes are on fire right now. This team is so explosive.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 02, 2023, 07:24:19 PM
The Canes are on fire right now. This team is so explosive.
Best odds to win it all per MoneyPuck: https://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/marty-walsh-to-leave-biden-cabinet-to-run-nhlpa-1.1916139
Blues trade F Tarasenko the the Rangers: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/rangers-acquire-winger-vladimir-tarasenko-from-blues/
Rangers made a very good move to get Tarasenko. It's still early in the final leg of schedule and only Blais moved off their team
Harvey-Pinard for Montreal. The kid looks pretty good. 8 games, 5G 2A. 7 points.
O'Reilly to the Leaf's.
GM Dubas certainly came thru with this big move. Both O'Reilly and Acciari are great at face offs and intense, experienced hustlers.
O'Reilly is have a tough year. But, I think that's going to change.
Shocked at what the Bolts gave up for Tanner Jeannot from the Preds, who gave up Cal Foote
Cal Foote ? $850,000
2023 3rd round pick (TBL)
2023 4th round pick (TBL)
2023 5th round pick (TBL)
2024 2nd round pick (TBL)
2025 1st round pick (TBL) [Conditional]*
*Conditions: Top 10 protected
Plus can't understand how the Sharks received such a jumble of little concern for Meier from the Devils
https://www.capfriendly.com/
Quote from: Jockitch on February 27, 2023, 05:44:36 PM
Shocked at what the Bolts gave up for Tanner Jeannot from the Preds, who gave up Cal Foote
Cal Foote ? $850,000
2023 3rd round pick (TBL)
2023 4th round pick (TBL)
2023 5th round pick (TBL)
2024 2nd round pick (TBL)
2025 1st round pick (TBL) [Conditional]*
*Conditions: Top 10 protected
This is one of the very few trades from Tampa that I absolutely hate. Not because of the player but the return. They could have done this for two less picks and used those two picks to get another player.
And I get the optics of it pickwise, doesn't mean I have to like it.
Weird trades aplenty lately.
Kane to the Rangers for a couple of picks. They're loading up.
Also announced yesterday: Barry Trotz will be the new GM in Nashville after the season once David Poile steps down.
Toronto has been crazy busy and just minutes ago they shed salary by sending Engvall to the Caps, who I hoped Jets might get cheap
Plus they just picked up dman Schenn from the Canucks and dman Gustaffson from the Caps for the above
The returns were 3rd draft spots
The Eastern Conference playoffs are going to be bonkers.
Kane or Chychrun would have looked good here...
The Jets were in on Chychrun but part of the proposed trade involved the Coyotes retaining part of his salary as well as a notable prospect going to the desert.
Kane would've never entertained coming here, even if for a short stint.
Pastrnak 8 years, $90M.
Supposedly Dallas will get Domi trade done
Also as of 8:20 Winnipeg time, only Flames, Kraken and Panthers have not made a trade in the past two weeks Heard on OB tonight
I really like what the Oilers and Leaf's have done. Oilers have better goaltending at this point. Ottawa made a few good moves for a team still out of the play-offs. The Oilers might go far in the weaker West division. Leaf's are going to have a tough time.
Wild added some nice pieces.
Not aware that Oilers improved on their so-so goal tending.
Course Ekholm helps their defensive structure big time
Impressed with Leafs, K. Dubas, juggling his Cap to really change the lineup
I think the Islanders did a great job trading for and signing Bo Horvat. $8.5M is a fair number for both sides.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 30, 2023, 06:29:15 PM
I think the Islanders did a great job trading for and signing Bo Horvat. $8.5M is a fair number for both sides.
I'm certainly jealous.
The Kraken have a chance to clinch a playoff berth tonight for the first time in franchise history.
The Kraken have gotten way more positive results then I ever imagined possible, this season
Coach of the Year nominee suggestions are from New Jersey, Kraken and Boston
All 32 teams playing today. I think that's a first.
How about Sid. 1500 points. What a career.
Giroux and Pavelski both crack 1,000 career points, Karlsson cracks 100 points on the season.
Toews will play his last game a Chicago Blackhawk tonight. Hell of a career if he decides to hang them up.
Pretty crazy opening night. Surprised the Oilers and Stars lost.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 18, 2023, 01:09:49 PM
Pretty crazy opening night. Surprised the Oilers and Stars lost.
Oilers looked like they went on cruise control at 3-1. Stars totally out played the Wild.
Salute to the Oiler crowd who were loud and really having a festive time throughout Well almost throughout (chuckle, chuckle)
Great effort by the Kings and truly did not fluke off their win.
Salute to them for throwing garbage on the ice after their team choked away a two-goal lead and lost in OT.
The Leafs had a rough first game.
Every road team won last night.
Another dirty hit by a Wild player. What a bunch on meatheads over there.
No PL80 at practice today.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 26, 2023, 08:41:45 PM
Another dirty hit by a Wild player. What a bunch on meatheads over there.
behaviour like that starts at the top...
The Kraken have a big chance to advance, now up 3 games to 2 and playing in Seattle next
Babrovsky came thru for coach Maurice and stole game 5 from the dominant Bruins
Leaf's did not look good tonight.
Pomo does it. Takes down the all time best team in the NHL !!!!!!
Huge upset !!
Chance for the Leafs just got better
An NHL record discrepancy of 43 points, in the favour of Boston, meant nothing
Hockey playoffs can be a roller coaster of surprises. The Panthers just shocked the pundits
Happy for coach PM
Yup, coach Maurice says hello to loserpeg and good luck figuring out that locker room, he couldn?t do anything with it and heck, his team just beat the best team in the league, what the heck does he know!,,
What a phenomenal opening round. No sweeps and some impressive upsets.
The second round should be a gooder!
The Calgary Flames have fired Daryl Sutter.
Wow, the Devils blank the Rangers again and send Troubadour golfing
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 01, 2023, 06:23:43 PM
The Calgary Flames have fired Daryl Sutter.
I thought it was ridiculous when they hired him in the first place, but it's not his fault management couldn't re-sign their top players.
Quote from: Jesse on May 02, 2023, 12:46:24 PM
I thought it was ridiculous when they hired him in the first place, but it's not his fault management couldn't re-sign their top players.
Indeed. I'm surprised they didn't just fire him the same day as Treliving.
Stone leaves Knights practice. Didn't look good.
Great opening night for round 2. Two very exciting games and wins for the road teams.
Visiting teams are now 33-19 in the playoffs :o
Oiler were targeting Stones lower back.
Leaf's in a big hole.
In two straight games, Bobrovsky posted the same stats: 2.00 GAA and a .944 SV%.
He's been on fire since replacing Lyon in the first round.
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on May 03, 2023, 02:19:53 PM
Visiting teams are now 33-19 in the playoffs :o
So, you're saying the Jets had the home ice advantage... and still lost in 5... ;)
Canes looking very good.
Wander if Kane might get fined for laying on body shots to a helpless, downed player
Oilers have to be aware that Kolesar taking Kane with him for penalties is not a good trade off
Gallant out of Ranger dressing room
No offensive performance by Lafrenniere. Had no points in the 7 games but 15 hits & 0 +/-
Cheering for interest from Chevy. Might blossom in Jet uni
NHL draft lottery Monday night.
Talk about embarrassing. How about the performance of the Stars and Canes, even the Knights on Saturday night. Very weak performance by all three of these teams.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 06, 2023, 03:06:08 AM
Canes looking very good.
And then not.
The Devils are a baffling team so far this post-season.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 08, 2023, 04:53:42 PM
And then not.
The Devils are a baffling team so far this post-season.
Crazy playoffs. Every team has had a least one bad game. However, Moe has the Panthers playing well.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 08, 2023, 07:15:08 PM
Crazy playoffs. Every team has had a least one bad game. However, Moe has the Panthers playing well.
Six straight wins.
Should be an interesting game 3 with EDM/VGK tonight.
Chicago won the Bedard sweepstakes
Quote from: Jockitch on May 09, 2023, 01:55:47 AM
Chicago won the Bedard sweepstakes
They are going to need him!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 08, 2023, 08:22:51 PM
Six straight wins.
Should be an interesting game 3 with EDM/VGK tonight.
Blowout, Oilers spent to much time running at the Knights.
Colorado Avalanche captain Gabriel Landeskog to have knee surgery/cartilage transplant, will miss entire 2023-24 NHL season.
Black Hawks sold $2.5M in season tickets after winning the draft lottery.
Nurse gone for game 5. Pietrangelo should also get a game for that slash. Kane for crosschecking Pietrangelo from behind into the boards should also be a game.
Pietrangelo also got a game suspension
Hooray, the Canes move on to next round.
One game for Pietrangelo shows what a sham the DOPS is with Parros in charge. Pathetic.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 12, 2023, 01:33:49 PM
One game for Pietrangelo shows what a sham the DOPS is with Parros in charge. Pathetic.
I heard there was mitigation in that this was not an infraction that was typical of the player... history always play a role in penalties assessed by the league.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 12, 2023, 05:28:08 PM
I heard there was mitigation in that this was not an infraction that was typical of the player... history always play a role in penalties assessed by the league.
Any player who chooses to use his stick as some sort of battle axe and swing it above his head and onto an opponent should have the book thrown at him.
Panthers advance. Edmonton's back is to the wall.
Tavares, Marner, Nylander, and Matthews. About $40M in Cap hit with 3 goals in FLA series.
Oilers have a lot of superstars, and made some good moves at the trade deadline but couldn't take down the Knights.
Quite the collapse by the Oilers in the second period last night.
Stupid Vegas.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 15, 2023, 01:22:52 PM
Quite the collapse by the Oilers in the second period last night.
Stupid Vegas.
Vegas is pretty good...
Vegas vs Seattle - could happen.
Vegas vs Florida or Carolina - who predicted that??
I thought Carolina had a very good chance of making it this far. This team is just so solid.
Vegas is a very good team. I figured they would get to the Western final. Goaltending has been excellent for them.
Seattle like Florida are a surprise.
Quote from: The Zipp on May 15, 2023, 06:32:13 PM
Vegas is pretty good...
Vegas vs Seattle - could happen.
Vegas vs Florida or Carolina - who predicted that??
They should be. They were gifted a top team from the get-go and now get to take advantage of LTIR loopholes like the Lightning did. That's garbage.
And yes, I'll admit I'm crusty. I can't stand a six-year old franchise that's never really struggled, only missed the playoffs once (by all of three points), and will now play in its third conference final.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 15, 2023, 07:16:23 PM
They should be. They were gifted a top team from the get-go and now get to take advantage of LTIR loopholes like the Lightning did. That's garbage.
And yes, I'll admit I'm crusty. I can't stand a six-year old franchise that's never really struggled, only missed the playoffs once (by all of three points), and will now play in its third conference final.
Right there with you.
The early of success of Vegas and Seattle (albiet exactly what the league intended) is broken. They are clearly given too many advantages over existing teams.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 14, 2023, 09:06:01 PM
Tavares, Marner, Nylander, and Matthews. About $40M in Cap hit with 3 goals in FLA series.
Awesome, that's only $13.33 million per goal!!!
Well we are down to 4. Knights and Canes for the Cup. SP26 on the Canes. A number of Manitoba boy's on Vegas.
Quote from: Jesse on May 15, 2023, 11:24:21 PM
Right there with you.
The early of success of Vegas and Seattle (albiet exactly what the league intended) is broken. They are clearly given too many advantages over existing teams.
I'm willing to be more understanding with the Kraken. The expansion rules were changed for them compared to what was allowed to happen with the Vegas Expansion Draft back in 2017.
The Kraken did struggle in their inaugural season and didn't make the playoffs (finished with only 60 points) but the fans still showed up and it became evident the market there works. Their second season was a step in the right direction with a playoff berth and winning a round.
The Garbage Knights are wholly different animal, IMO. I despise that franchise with the fire of a thousand burning suns.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 16, 2023, 02:21:46 PM
I'm willing to be more understanding with the Kraken. The expansion rules were changed for them compared to what was allowed to happen with the Vegas Expansion Draft back in 2017.
The Kraken did struggle in their inaugural season and didn't make the playoffs (finished with only 60 points) but the fans still showed up and it became evident the market there works. Their second season was a step in the right direction with a playoff berth and winning a round.
The Garbage Knights are wholly different animal, IMO. I despise that franchise with the fire of a thousand burning suns.
1000%
Go Knights !
Gross.
The fate of the Arizona Coyotes will be determined tonight: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/tempe-voters-decide-future-of-coyotes-franchise-in-arizona-on-tuesday
Ryan Reynolds group out in Ottawa. Snopp Doggs group is in. This team could go for 1 billion dollars. Crazy.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 16, 2023, 07:22:29 PM
The fate of the Arizona Coyotes will be determined tonight: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/tempe-voters-decide-future-of-coyotes-franchise-in-arizona-on-tuesday
They've been shut down, lol.
Doesn't sound like they even tried to convince residents to vote for them.
Quote from: Jesse on May 17, 2023, 12:01:34 PM
They've been shut down, lol.
Doesn't sound like they even tried to convince residents to vote for them.
Just as well. It's time to put an end to that failed venture in Arizona.
The populace has spoken.
Poor Gary is disappointed: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nhl-terribly-disappointed-after-tempe-voters-vote-down-arena-for-arizona-coyotes-1.1961458
nearly four full OT periods last night... anyone else very tired this morning?
It was a beauty. Great goaltending.
Dubas fired...and we roll with our guy...
Quote from: Pigskin on May 19, 2023, 02:15:06 PM
It was a beauty. Great goaltending.
What a game. Bobrovsky was phenomenal.
Quote from: The Zipp on May 19, 2023, 04:22:30 PM
Dubas fired...and we roll with our guy...
Not even remotely similar.
His contract was up and neither side had any interest in renewing.
Dubas mentioned earlier this week he's uncertain of his hockey future as it relates to the stress it's put on him and his family.
Truly was a massive attention grabber of a game last night.
It felt shocking to have the winning goal end the game cuz I had rescind myself to a 5th OT
Huge victory for Florida
Goaltender has been massive for the Panthers. Nothing fancy about the Panthers, they just never stop working.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 21, 2023, 03:12:26 PM
Goaltender has been massive for the Panthers. Nothing fancy about the Panthers, they just never stop working.
Everything we want to see from the home club.
Just finished watching the Dallas/Vegas game, another great game. Excellent playoff hockey.
Dallas are in tough against Vegas who so far seal the deal
Panthers meanwhile have a gigantic possibility of going up by 3 at home tonight
Just watched the footage of the idiotic Joe Veleno, while with Canada playing the Swiss, stomp on Niederreiter's leg.
Fortunately Nino was injured.
Though Veleno got a 5 game suspension, truly wish that the NHL could can the guy for an additional 5 games
Quote from: Jockitch on May 22, 2023, 06:55:16 PM
Just watched the footage of the idiotic Joe Veleno, while with Canada playing the Swiss, stomp on Niederreiter's leg.
Fortunately Nino was injured.
Though Veleno got a 5 game suspension, truly wish that the NHL could can the guy for an additional 5 games
It was stupid to stomp on another players foot. However, then NN cross checks Veleno in the face. Another stupid move.
Bob has been outstanding for the Panthers. Did the Panther even have a shot on goal in the 3rd. period. And how did the ref missed that high stick with a couple of minutes left in the game.
Bobrovsky running away with the Conn Smythe at this rate.
shocked at the, in my opinion, missed call by ref(s) in the final minutes of last nights eventual win by Panthers
Stars blow up at home. Benn in the first set the tone for the game. I could see him getting a couple more game for that cross check. Domi, another stupid penalty.
Has to be a suspension for Benn
Hockey gods were smiling in Knights favour as they had 4 goals on their first 12 shots
Jamie Benn is a goon. The Stars are likely done now.
Benn gets suspended for two games.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 24, 2023, 10:10:24 PM
Benn gets suspended for two games.
Good, that was a very dirty play.
Panthers sweep, didn't see that coming. Panthers are red hot, and Bob has been amazing.
I'm on the Cats Bandwagon. Want to see Maurice hoist that mug!
Big congrats to PM
Not taking any accolades away from Panther players but Bob beat Boston, Leafs and now the Canes
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 25, 2023, 01:26:36 PM
I'm on the Cats Bandwagon. Want to see Maurice hoist that mug!
Me too. I want to see a dogfight with Vegas and then for PauMau to win a cup.
I am with Vegas, and all the Manitoba boys.
Canada playing a solid game against Finland right now. Nice 4-1 victory.
Stars with a big push back game.
Glad they kept the series going but it'll be a tall order to get a win in Vegas.
Canada into the Gold medal game.
Canada wins Gold, beating Germany 5-2.
Stars with another big win.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 28, 2023, 07:35:17 PM
Stars with another big win.
Huge. They get Benn back tonight at home to try and force game 7.
What an embarrassing defeat that Vegas doled out on the SubStars
Quote from: Jockitch on May 30, 2023, 03:43:35 AM
What an embarrassing defeat that Vegas doled out on the SubStars
Stars looked like they where out of gas.
Saturday night game 1.
Vegas in 6.
Pathetic effort by the Stars the other night.
I feel bad for Pavelski but that's about it.
Go Cats!
Treliving GM of the Leaf's.
On the show called OVERDRIVE, yesterday, the fellas basically were remarking how Dubas may have quite an adjustment wherever he lands.
They were alluding to the fact that the Leafs organization probably has more front office support then all the rest of the NHL teams combined.
Game one in the books. Good game for 2 periods. Vegas owned the 3rd period. MT19 gong show at the end of the game makes him look like an a__ clown.
Montreal: CC22 $62.8M for 8 years.
Panthers have to get back to playing smart hockey. Far to many penalties.
Bob, will start game 3 for the Panthers.
Wowee, how busy the Flyers were today
Seems like a very good return for Provorov.
Caught a blurb that Hart being sent someplace as well today
I expect the Panthers to play a much better game tonight.
Bob played very well tonight.
Draft:
Oilers: 2, 6,7, round picks. 3 picks
Leaf's: 1, 5,6, round picks. 3 picks
Jets: 1,3,5,5,7, round picks 5 picks.
Montreal: 2/1st. 1/2nd. 1/3rd. 3/4th. 2/5th. 1/6th. 1/7th. 11 picks. Crazy.
also a Ranger slot in the 5th Rd for Jets , but indeed pretty sparse
Quote from: Jockitch on June 09, 2023, 09:05:46 PM
also a Ranger slot in the 5th Rd for Jets , but indeed pretty sparse
True, well that makes it a little better.
Vegas is just so solid from top to bottom.
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/michael-andlauer-to-become-new-senators-owner-1.1972615
Will Vegas end it tonight.
Nice win for Vegas.
Booooooo
Really a terrific team effort and such a great coaching staff.
Congrats to McCrimmon
I was thinking 6 games, but they ended up finishing them off in 5, just like the Jets.
Dominating performance, good on Vegas and those Manitoba boys.
Quote from: Jesse on June 14, 2023, 03:34:16 AM
Booooooo
I second this.
Thank goodness that's over. What a lame SCF.
Two teams from zero personal income tax states in the final... just saying.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 14, 2023, 03:17:57 PM
Two teams from zero personal income tax states in the final... just saying.
One of many reasons it's difficult for Winnipeg to attract players...just saying.
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2023/06/stanley-cup-ratings-least-watched-game-five-29-years-golden-knights-panthers/
Not surprised.
Wheels, one year deal with the Rangers. $800K.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 01, 2023, 05:36:54 PM
Wheels, one year deal with the Rangers. $800K.
Wow, interesting. Quite a deal for the Rangers for a 2nd line winger...
Can't see Wheels as a top 6 forward anymore.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 01, 2023, 06:28:23 PM
Can't see Wheels as a top 6 forward anymore.
I was being a little facetious...
With Kane and Tarasenko UFA, gives them some cheap backup.
Re-unites with Trouba.
Stenlund to the Panthers. 1 yr, 1M.
Very good for Stenlund and really do hope that Wheels has a decent year
Karlsson to Penguins for a boat load. Sounds like Montreal is also involved.
See if I got this right:
To Montreal form Pittsburgh. 2025 2nd, Round pick, Petry, DeSmith, and Nathan Legare. Penguins will also retain 25% of Petry's contract.
To Pittsburgh. Hoffman, Pitlick.
Pittburgh is sending there 1st. round pick in 2024, Granlund, Rutta, and Hoffman to the Sharks for Karlsson.
Quite the combo of moves between the 3 teams. Personally not sure if there is any winner today
Dumba signs with the Yotes for under $4.M
Oilers agree to PTOs with F Sam Gagner, F Brandon Sutter.
Andrew Ladd retires after 1001 games.
Sounds like Carey Price feels like his career is all but over.
Babcock out before the season even starts.
Quote from: Pigskin on September 18, 2023, 06:35:33 AM
Babcock out before the season even starts.
What a clown show.
Good opportunity for Vincent Pascal, though.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 18, 2023, 01:17:27 PM
What a clown show.
Good opportunity for Vincent Pascal, though.
Yeah, he should have some success coaching Laine Patrick and Gaudreau Johnny as well
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 18, 2023, 07:39:00 PM
Yeah, he should have some success coaching Laine Patrick and Gaudreau Johnny as well
Helps to have a captain and leader like Jenner Boone, too.
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 18, 2023, 07:39:00 PM
Yeah, he should have some success coaching Laine Patrick and Gaudreau Johnny as well
:D
Indeed
The GM and Davidson should be fired. Most Confounding stupid hire no matter how you look at it.
CB98 had a pretty good start to his NHL career. 2A night.
Quote from: Pigskin on September 29, 2023, 06:51:47 PM
CB98 had a pretty good start to his NHL career. 2A night.
CB98 looked pretty solid in his first NHL game. His speed and puck handling is elite. This kid is going to be fun to watch.
Quite agree, Bedard really looks up for the challenges in his first year
Thought it was really cool when the ref welcomed him to the NHL
OV with his first of the year.
Season has just been rolling for a short time but
......... how about Boston with no losses and have given up just 7 goals in 6 games.
...... the usually tight defensive Hurricanes with just 3 wins in 7 games have given up a huge 33 goals
....... the Caps have only scored 7 goals in 5 games with Ovi just scoring his first in the last game.
....... the Avs are undefeated in their first 6 while Vegas is undefeated in their initial 7 games
........ the Sharks have not won in 6 (a single win in OT) and have scored a paltry 8 goals
...... and who would have guessed that the Wings would be leading the league in total goals with 34 after 7 games
Between TapeGate and the Pinto suspension, the league sure loves shooting itself in the foot lately. LOL
can't wait to read what the suspension to Pinto was complete with
Quote from: Jockitch on October 27, 2023, 02:57:26 AM
can't wait to read what the suspension to Pinto was complete with
41 games is a lot.
So,
A league powered by the gambling dollar, that embraced the gambling community to breathe life into the league, is against its players participating?
A good drug dealer doesn't sample his wares?
How bad are the Oilers right now. 1-5, wow.
RIP to former NHLer Adam Johnson, who unfortunately took a skate blade to the neck last night in England and succumbed in hospital.
Sad news.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 27, 2023, 08:17:00 PM
So,
A league powered by the gambling dollar, that embraced the gambling community to breathe life into the league, is against its players participating?
A good drug dealer doesn't sample his wares?
I know, talk about hypocrisy or what!!! Sickening actually that they stopped to this level to generate revenues and sad they suspend a player half the season for participating. Mixed messaging at its finest.
Joe Thornton announced his retirement yesterday: https://www.nhl.com/news/joe-thornton-retires-from-nhl-after-24-seasons
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 30, 2023, 02:41:41 PM
Joe Thornton announced his retirement yesterday: https://www.nhl.com/news/joe-thornton-retires-from-nhl-after-24-seasons
Sad, he never won a cup.
Paul Stastny retires.
Quote from: Pigskin on November 01, 2023, 03:03:52 AM
Paul Stastny retires.
Another talented forward to never have won a championship.
Waiving his NTC to come here in 2018 was solid and that was a special time for this franchise.
All the best in your retirement, Paul!
Senators GM Dorion resigns: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ottawa-senators-fire-gm-pierre-dorion-following-nhl-punishment-for-dadonov-trade-1.2029661
Due to this: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ottawa-senators-to-forfeit-first-round-pick-as-fallout-from-2021-evgenii-dadonov-trade-1.2029600
Carter Hart out for 2-6 weeks.
I am surprised how good Vancouver looks.
Quote from: Pigskin on November 05, 2023, 02:07:22 PM
I am surprised how good Vancouver looks.
And how bad the Oilers are.
That Huberdeau contract is not aging well in Calgary.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 05, 2023, 06:20:43 PM
This makes me laugh.
This makes me smile.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 08, 2023, 03:27:57 PM
That Huberdeau contract is not aging well in Calgary.
This also makes me smile.
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 08, 2023, 07:40:03 PM
This makes me smile.
This also makes me smile.
Alberta taking so many Ls lately. :D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 08, 2023, 03:27:57 PM
That Huberdeau contract is not aging well in Calgary.
And at $10.5M, he is just about impossible to move.
Another loss for the Oil. This time to the lowly Sharks.
Can't imagine the headlines in northern AB right now. Maybe they get another 1st overall pick?? :D
Woodcroft claims he isn't worried about his job security, but he should be.
CB98 with a 4 point night.
amazing poor results for the Oilers as this season has been progressing
Back to back huge games by Blackwood in the Sharks two wins then with a different goalie in they fall back to earth 5-0 vs Vegas
Oilers beat the Kraken 4-1 and shortly after tie the anchor to Woodcroft
They're expected to hire their AHL coach
Quote from: Jockitch on November 12, 2023, 09:16:06 PM
Oilers beat the Kraken 4-1 and shortly after tie the anchor to Woodcroft
They're expected to hire their AHL coach
There are lots of retread NHL coaches available, aren't there? Is their AHL the interim answer, or is he a legit option?
Quote from: Jockitch on November 12, 2023, 09:16:06 PM
Oilers beat the Kraken 4-1 and shortly after tie the anchor to Woodcroft
They're expected to hire their AHL coach
Weird time to fire him, IMO. Not that his leash should've been long considering the Oilers' putrid start but I don't understand canning a coach after a win.
Blue Jackets F Gaudreau and Laine both benched in last night's eventual loss to the Coyotes. CBJ on a seven-game losing streak.
Can't help but feel bad for Laine and (HC) Vincent.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 17, 2023, 02:37:15 PM
Blue Jackets F Gaudreau and Laine both benched in last night's eventual loss to the Coyotes. CBJ on a seven-game losing streak.
Can't help but feel bad for Laine and (HC) Vincent.
PL29 hasn't had much luck with CBJ. Lots of injuries, now he's benched. We could us him on our PP.
PL29 a healthy scratch tonight.
The thing is Laine was never that great. I trick pony. Good player streaky player. Lacks consistency.
Lucic charged with domestic assault. Sad.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 20, 2023, 08:47:15 PM
The thing is Laine was never that great. I trick pony. Good player streaky player. Lacks consistency.
He appeared to turn things around during the 2019-20 season but since getting traded, he's fallen off a cliff.
With the right pieces around him, he can be a lethal winger. He doesn't have that support in Columbus, though.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 21, 2023, 12:25:09 PM
He appeared to turn things around during the 2019-20 season but since getting traded, he's fallen off a cliff.
With the right pieces around him, he can be a lethal winger. He doesn't have that support in Columbus, though.
It was a major lose/lose trade for Laine and for us.
Especially with the benefit of hindsight of Maurice walking away and us moving on from Wheeler. I think Laine would have looked real good for us.
One of the bigger misses of franchise history.
Quote from: Jesse on November 21, 2023, 12:45:33 PM
It was a major lose/lose trade for Laine and for us.
Especially with the benefit of hindsight of Maurice walking away and us moving on from Wheeler. I think Laine would have looked real good for us.
One of the bigger misses of franchise history.
He's not worth the most recent contract he signed, IMO. I also don't know if he would've signed for less had he remained with the Jets.
Not sure I agree with hindsight providing any benefit here. The Jets got Iafallo, Vilardi, and Kupari from the return on the Laine trade.
Columbus is probably not far from making some moves to help salvage or to discard the season
Guessing their GM is on thin ice
Guessing that Boston must get quite a few offers for Swayman &/or Ullmark, the Ducks about Gibson
Leafs, Oilers, Hurricanes, Devils come to mind in, perhaps, needing the Cup drive upgrade and I feel why wait till trade deadline
I have to think Holland is on thin ice in Edmonton, too. What a disastrous season for the Oilers.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 23, 2023, 01:13:24 PM
I have to think Holland is on thin ice in Edmonton, too. What a disastrous season for the Oilers.
Yes, Oilers are a mess.
Sounds like Dean Evason is on the hot, hot seat right now with the Wild after they lost their seventh straight to the Red Wings.
;D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 27, 2023, 07:41:43 PM
Sounds like Dean Evason is on the hot, hot seat right now with the Wild after they lost their seventh straight to the Red Wings.
;D
Yes, the Wild have fired him.
UFA F Patrick Kane signs with DET: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/patrick-kane-signing-with-detroit-red-wings/
Reportedly a one-year deal.
Just watched some highlights from the Panthers/Sens game last night. The Tkachuk brothers were in fine forum.
F Corey Perry has been placed on unconditional waivers by the Chicago Blackhawks for the purpose of contract termination: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/chicago-blackhawks-put-corey-perry-on-waivers-for-purposes-of-contract-termination-1.2041791
Sounds like he violated the team's code of conduct. The rumour mill's already on full blast. LOL :D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 28, 2023, 07:51:36 PM
F Corey Perry has been placed on unconditional waivers by the Chicago Blackhawks for the purpose of contract termination: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/chicago-blackhawks-put-corey-perry-on-waivers-for-purposes-of-contract-termination-1.2041791
Sounds like he violated the team's code of conduct. The rumour mill's already on full blast. LOL :D
That was certainly a rabbit hole of a google search...
Sounds like he mite have got into a fight with a Blackhawks employee.
Zadorov trade to Vancouver.
David Krejci has announced his retirement from professional hockey due to health issues.
OV not having a good year, at this rate he won't catch the Great one. 22 Games, 5G, 9A. I believe 4 of his 5 goals have come on the PP.
Ex-Jets:
Copp: 24 Games. 5G, 6A.
Laine: 16 Games. 5G, 2A
Wheeler: 24 Games. 2G, 4A.
PLD: 22 Games. 5G, 6A.
to go along with your info Pigskin
Copp is 29 now and he is at $ 5.625 mill a year
Wheels as we know is hockey "old" and the Rangers gave him 800K while the Jets pay him $ 2.75 M for the last 2 years
Meanwhile PLD at age 25 gets $ 8.5M and Laine, who seems to have been around for ever, is 25 and makes $ 8.7M
Chevy made some correct moves on the above, IMO, and more big decisions will happen down the road
Berube fired.
Laine out six weeks with fractured clavicle: https://www.nhl.com/bluejackets/news/blue-jackets-patrik-laine-clavicle-fracture
Such a shame. His career has taken such a turn for the worst.
Quote from: Pigskin on December 13, 2023, 08:57:15 AM
Berube fired.
Seems like he just lead the blues to the Stanley cup and now let go, wow, talk about a cold , what have you done for me lately business
Quote from: dd on December 17, 2023, 01:49:27 AM
Seems like he just lead the blues to the Stanley cup and now let go, wow, talk about a cold , what have you done for me lately business
Just? That was more than four years ago.
Senators fire HC Smith, Martin becomes interim HC: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ottawa-senators-fire-head-coach-d-j-smith-jacques-martin-named-interim-coach-1.2050565
so do we couch potatoes start sending a few Sens players elsewhere ? Course the NHL trade freeze is on, but start considering
Sens need defensemen and their overall team play has been noted as soft.
Other then Sanderson, Norris, Tkachuk, Stuetzle, maybe Chychrun and probably the injured Chabot .... the rest are moveable IMO
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 17, 2023, 04:00:08 PM
Just? That was more than four years ago.
you can't win the cup every year. 4 years ago is relatively recent, and boom out the door you go.
Quote from: dd on December 18, 2023, 11:49:46 PM
you can't win the cup every year. 4 years ago is relatively recent, and boom out the door you go.
Who said anything about winning the cup every year? Four years can be a lifetime in the "what have you done lately?" and sometimes unforgiving world of pro sports.
In Berube's case, the Blues missed the playoffs last season after finishing sixth in the division. In 28 games this season, they were 13-14-1. I'm not saying firing him was the right move but a head coach is generally the first to go when a team isn't performing well.
Nolan Patrick announces retirement: https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/former-no-2-draft-pick-nolan-patrick-retires-at-25-1.6695474
Such a shame.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 20, 2023, 06:19:41 PM
Nolan Patrick announces retirement: https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/former-no-2-draft-pick-nolan-patrick-retires-at-25-1.6695474
Such a shame.
That's too bad. I remember being excited about him but he never really panned out to expectations. Health issues seem to have been the death knell. Poor guy
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 20, 2023, 06:19:41 PM
Nolan Patrick announces retirement: https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/former-no-2-draft-pick-nolan-patrick-retires-at-25-1.6695474
Such a shame.
Yes, this is sad. The kid had so much talent.
CB98 out with a broken jaw, after taking a shoulder to the face.
Nylander close to a new deal: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/william-nylander-s-eight-year-extension-with-toronto-maple-leafs-appears-imminent-1.2059529
Cap hell for the Leafs.
EDIT: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs-sign-william-nylander-to-eight-year-92m-contract-extension-1.2059597
So Cutter Gauthier the 5th overall Draft pick in 2022, a potentially top sniper in the NHL, gets moved by the Flyers.
Apparently he refused to sign with Philly, so the Ducks give up an up and coming rt shot Dman in J. Drysdale and a 2nd rd pick in 2025
Thinking short term win for the Flyers and a wait and see for the Ducks
Bedard out 6-8 weeks, will miss ASG: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/chicago-blackhawks-connor-bedard-out-6-8-weeks-after-surgery-will-miss-all-star-game-1.2060545
Corey Perry eligible to return to NHL: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/corey-perry-eligible-to-sign-with-nhl-team-following-contract-termination-1.2060733
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 10, 2024, 10:45:05 PM
Corey Perry eligible to return to NHL: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/corey-perry-eligible-to-sign-with-nhl-team-following-contract-termination-1.2060733
That's nice... wonder who is desperate enough...
Cody Hodgson signs PTO with Predators' AHL affiliate: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/cody-hodgson-33-signs-ahl-pto-after-eight-years-off-the-ice-1.2063807
Never thought I'd hear that name again.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 17, 2024, 04:54:44 PM
Cody Hodgson signs PTO with Predators' AHL affiliate: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/cody-hodgson-33-signs-ahl-pto-after-eight-years-off-the-ice-1.2063807
Never thought I'd hear that name again.
holy cow
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 17, 2024, 04:54:44 PM
Cody Hodgson signs PTO with Predators' AHL affiliate: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/cody-hodgson-33-signs-ahl-pto-after-eight-years-off-the-ice-1.2063807
Never thought I'd hear that name again.
Blast from the past!
Senators are reportedly open to moving F Tarasenko and D Chychrun: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/report-ottawa-senators-expected-to-ask-vladimir-tarasenko-to-waive-ntc-listening-on-jakob-chychrun-1.2064247
I'd take the latter on the Jets' blue line in a heartbeat if such a trade could be made.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 18, 2024, 01:17:40 PM
Senators are reportedly open to moving F Tarasenko and D Chychrun: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/report-ottawa-senators-expected-to-ask-vladimir-tarasenko-to-waive-ntc-listening-on-jakob-chychrun-1.2064247
I'd take the latter on the Jets' blue line in a heartbeat if such a trade could be made.
What do you give up for Chychrun, and who gets bumped? 4.6mil cap hit, 1 more year on deal, M-NTC currently.
I'm sure that today, Winnipeg has been deleted from almost every NTC out there... who doesn't want to be traded to the best team in the league?
Quote from: theaardvark on January 18, 2024, 01:37:04 PMWhat do you give up for Chychrun, and who gets bumped? 4.6mil cap hit, 1 more year on deal, M-NTC currently.
No idea. Hence the if.
I'd expect the Senators to retain salary for such a trade. It'd probably involve Stanley, too.
Wild D and captain Spurgeon to miss remainder of season: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/minnesota-wild-captain-jared-spurgeon-to-miss-rest-of-season-1.2064665
What a disastrous season for the Wild.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 11, 2024, 06:13:02 PMThat's nice... wonder who is desperate enough...
Not sure if desperation is the reason but he's back: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/oilers-agree-to-deal-with-veteran-forward-corey-perry-1.2065754
Maybe they need someone to put on a line with Mr. Moneyphone.
So basically the London, Ont. police, as part of the sexual assault investigation of involvement by Jr. players on a young lady, have asked for 5 of the players from the 2018 Team Canada Jr. roster to turn themselves in.
Not proven guilty but it appears to be Dube from the Flames, Hart from the Flyers,
McLeod and Foote from the Devil's organization and my last guess is Alex Formenton previous of the Sens
It always had me suspicious why Ottawa didn't sign him for beyond the 2021-22 season nor would any other NHL team get him thru a trade. So he ended up in the Swiss league and today, in his second season he took a leave of absence.
Quote from: Jockitch on January 24, 2024, 06:36:17 PMSo basically the London, Ont. police, as part of the sexual assault investigation of involvement by Jr. players on a young lady, have asked for 5 of the players from the 2018 Team Canada Jr. roster to turn themselves in.
Not proven guilty but it appears to be Dube from the Flames, Hart from the Flyers,
McLeod and Foote from the Devil's organization and my last guess is Alex Formenton previous of the Sens
It always had me suspicious why Ottawa didn't sign him for beyond the 2021-22 season nor would any other NHL team get him thru a trade. So he ended up in the Swiss league and today, in his second season he took a leave of absence.
Disgusting. Hockey culture is so toxic.
NHL to Salt Lake City?
https://www.nhl.com/news/salt-lake-city-utah-group-formally-requests-nhl-to-initiate-expansion-team-process
Wouldn't surprise me at all to see the Yotes get relocated; their venue situation is pretty pitiful.
Way, way over due for the "Yotes" to be moved.
So get this done Bettman and "thinkers" and send them to Utah faster than fast
https://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/team-canada/men/world-championship/2003/can-roster
The 2003 Jr. team (above link) is still under investigation in the Maritimes.
WOWEE, the above is an amazing lineup that may have some nervous men.
PL29 will enter the Player Assistance Program.
Coach Tocchett gets rid of Kuzmenko, a player he liked to seat in the press box
The Flames trade E. Lindholm to the Canucks for Kuzmenko and quite a package of draft picks and prospects
Pretty solid return for the Flames.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 01, 2024, 01:21:20 PMPretty solid return for the Flames.
Yup... they hosed the 'nuks on that deal. Good non-move Chevy (likely he forced Van to up the bid, should get an assist on the trade)
L.A. Kings fired their coach this morning
NHL players will return to Olympics in 2026, 2030: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nhl-to-return-to-olympics-in-2026-2030-hold-4-nations-face-off-in-2025-1.2070919
Love this.
Huzzah!
Sanity finally prevails.
Chicago to host 2025 Winter Classic at Wrigley Field: https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2838881
Vegas ends the Oilers streak as expected.
Quote from: DCM on February 07, 2024, 12:01:41 PMVegas ends the Oilers streak as expected.
Can't they both lose?
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/latest-news/report-john-tavares-in-court-battle-with-canada-revenue-agency-over-8-million-in-owed-taxes-and-the-impact-it-could-have-on-maple-leafs-ability-to-recruit-players
QuoteWith players being aware that signing with a club in Canada could one day lead to a dispute with a CRA, that might be enough of a deterrent for players to choose to play elsewhere.
I mean... Or you could just pay your taxes on the obscene amount of money you already get paid - to play a sport.
MR44 for the Leaf's will be hearing from the league. Stupid play
Quote from: Pigskin on February 11, 2024, 04:39:17 AMMR44 for the Leaf's will be hearing from the league. Stupid play
Can't wait to hear how they justify letting him get away with a fine instead of a suspension.
The NHL is sad and inconsistent when it comes to suspension. There usually all over the map.
Zadorov 2 game for check to the head. Why not 3?
5 games for MR44. I like it.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGP6H7aXAAAEyWv?format=jpg&name=small)
Here's the story for anyone interested: https://thehockeynews.com/news/blue-jackets-patrik-laine-receives-and-deserves-support-after-podcast-mocks-his-mental-health
Laine's a beauty through and through.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 13, 2024, 10:30:39 PM5 games for MR44. I like it.
It'll be appealed and reduced to maybe 3 games, I believe.
Give an extra for appealing it, and another game for playing for the Leaf's.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 14, 2024, 11:18:53 PMGive an extra for appealing it, and another game for playing for the Leaf's.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
Quote from: Pigskin on February 13, 2024, 10:30:39 PM5 games for MR44. I like it.
I still think that an appeal should have repercussions. There is no doubt that 5 games is reasonable for this, non game related, after the whistle, dangerous act. He should be charged with assault, because this was not part of the game play.
I'd love Bettman to extend the suspension to 10 games. This would end anyone appealing unless a suspension was egregiously wrong.
Blue Jackets fire GM Kekalainen: https://www.nhl.com/news/jarmo-kekalainen-fired-as-columbus-gm
President of Hockey Operations David Johnson will take over in the interim.
Long overdue, IMO.
Blackhawks rookie forward could return tonight: https://www.nhl.com/news/connor-bedard-return-for-chicago
Milan Lucic domestic violence charges have been dropped. Apparently his wife will not testify. I guess it's up to Gary now if he plays again this season.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 13, 2024, 10:30:39 PM5 games for MR44. I like it.
No surprise that Reaves thinks this is not a penalty, and part of the game for "disrespecting" a team by celebrating an empty netter. Maybe MR44 should have been there to defend the goal in the first place, not the "team's honour" after the play is over.
Now Leaf fans are saying that this is Bettman and the league hating the Leafs. Really? The Leafs that get every favourable ruling ever? The Leafs where ref's put the whistles in the pockets, and they still can't win?
Yeah, its the league front office that has prevented the team with the highest payroll just about every year, and sold out crowds, from winning a cup in over 50 years?
Yeah, that's the ticket.
Back in the good ole days, reaves is right, this wouldn't have been a penalty and Reilly's retaliation would have been expected and applauded. But not in the new-made-for-the-weasels NHL. Players hide behind visors, stick people left right and centre. Back in the day there was respect in the game or you paid the price. What really did hardly deserves a game suspension let alone 5, but that's the new NHL, and it stinks
Quote from: dd on February 17, 2024, 01:09:48 AMBack in the good ole days, reaves is right, this wouldn't have been a penalty and Reilly's retaliation would have been expected and applauded. But not in the new-made-for-the-weasels NHL. Players hide behind visors, stick people left right and centre. Back in the day there was respect in the game or you paid the price. What really did hardly deserves a game suspension let alone 5, but that's the new NHL, and it stinks
Yeah, hockey has changed. Less goonery, more skill. Faster play, more creativity, fewer career ending injuries, less axe swings at the head from behind after the play almost killing a player.
Has hockey become "made for the weasels"? It has moved that direction, sure. The dirty players today don't foil up before the game. Want to watch UFC? Go watch UFC.
Today's hockey is more about hockey, less about coming to see a car crash. Nascar has made its "game" a lot safer, footbsll has taken out some of the most exciting plays because they were too dangerous. About the only games that haven't implemented rules to make the safer are golf and soccer. And you don't see a lot of blood in either of those sports.
5 games is not enough for a head hunting crosscheck from behind after the play. No matter what the player did to "offend the code". You blew the defensive coverage, you gave him the opportunity to insult you. Want to defend your honour? Skate in front of him and drop your gloves. Cross checking to the head from behind is a chickenpoop move.
He should get 6-10 games on appeal. There has to be a penalty for the appeal, like the delay of game after an unsuccessful challenge.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 17, 2024, 03:08:10 PMYeah, hockey has changed. Less goonery, more skill. Faster play, more creativity, fewer career ending injuries, less axe swings at the head from behind after the play almost killing a player.
Has hockey become "made for the weasels"? It has moved that direction, sure. The dirty players today don't foil up before the game. Want to watch UFC? Go watch UFC.
Today's hockey is more about hockey, less about coming to see a car crash. Nascar has made its "game" a lot safer, footbsll has taken out some of the most exciting plays because they were too dangerous. About the only games that haven't implemented rules to make the safer are golf and soccer. And you don't see a lot of blood in either of those sports.
5 games is not enough for a head hunting crosscheck from behind after the play. No matter what the player did to "offend the code". You blew the defensive coverage, you gave him the opportunity to insult you. Want to defend your honour? Skate in front of him and drop your gloves. Cross checking to the head from behind is a chickenpoop move.
He should get 6-10 games on appeal. There has to be a penalty for the appeal, like the delay of game after an unsuccessful challenge.
Your right, the cross check was a cowardly act and yes it definitely does deserve a suspension. The game has lost its honour. There's no reason the slap shot the puck into an empty net. It's unsportmanlike/taunting and should have been called. Reilly should have just skated up and punched him in the face with his glove on to send the message back to the player that he's crossed the line. By Crosschecking him across the face, Reilly crossed the line and rightfully should sit out some games to deter him from doing it again.
Quote from: dd on February 18, 2024, 05:00:58 PMYour right, the cross check was a cowardly act and yes it definitely does deserve a suspension. The game has lost its honour. There's no reason the slap shot the puck into an empty net. It's unsportmanlike/taunting and should have been called. Reilly should have just skated up and punched him in the face with his glove on to send the message back to the player that he's crossed the line. By Crosschecking him across the face, Reilly crossed the line and rightfully should sit out some games to deter him from doing it again.
This is nonsense. You talk about honour and then say that a guy should commit assault because his team got scored on?
Quote from: dd on February 18, 2024, 05:00:58 PMThe game has lost its honour.
Can't lose something you never had.
Bettman upholds Leafs' D Rielly's 5-game suspension: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nhl-commissioner-gary-bettman-affirms-toronto-maple-leafs-morgan-rielly-s-five-game-suspension-1.2078634
Ottawa and Florida tonight. Last time these two played there was 167 minutes in penalties.
Red hot Rangers on a 9 game winning streak.
Watched the Oiler and Flames last night. Wow, Oilers are a dirty, undisciplined team.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 24, 2024, 04:36:54 PMRed hot Rangers on a 9 game winning streak.
When did Wheeler get injured?
TSN injured list says it was in a game Feb. 14th that Wheeler was hurt
Quote from: Jockitch on February 25, 2024, 08:52:15 PMTSN injured list says it was in a game Feb. 14th that Wheeler was hurt
So, 6 games ago...
Wheeler was placed on LTIR on Feb. 16th and is likely done for the season: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/rangers-place-blake-wheeler-on-ltir-return-this-season-unlikely/
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 26, 2024, 01:28:52 PMWheeler was placed on LTIR on Feb. 16th and is likely done for the season: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/rangers-place-blake-wheeler-on-ltir-return-this-season-unlikely/
Oh wow that sucks! Did he play his last NHL game?
Stars acquire D Tanev from Flames: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/dallas-stars-acquire-d-chris-tanev-from-calgary-flames-1.2082300
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 29, 2024, 01:48:17 PMStars acquire D Tanev from Flames: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/dallas-stars-acquire-d-chris-tanev-from-calgary-flames-1.2082300
Boooooo.
Stars got much tougher to play against .......... Yikes
Doesn't look like they gave up a lot, and got them to retain salary... did Chevy not want him? He is a rental, and Chevy doesn't often invest in those unless he thinks he can sign them. Although isn't Tanev a local boy?
Quote from: theaardvark on February 29, 2024, 06:51:24 PMDoesn't look like they gave up a lot, and got them to retain salary... did Chevy not want him? He is a rental, and Chevy doesn't often invest in those unless he thinks he can sign them. Although isn't Tanev a local boy?
No.
At first I was bummed out when I heard that Tanev signed with Dallas but the more I think about it, the less bummed I am. Tanev is not young and has a lot of miles on him. There's something to be said for chemistry as well. Who knows how that's going to work out? A guy like that, who blocks so many shots, is one shot away from disaster. Again, who knows how that is going to work out. Besides, we still have time to make a move provided it's the right move. More important to me is seeing this team gell at the right time. Goaltending, chemistry, and timing are more important to me.
So bout a week ago this young loose cannon called Rempe with the Rangers ran over Devil's Bastien and no teammate really stood up and answered the hit.
Just past 5:30 tonight, Devil's traded with the Avs and got a Bouncer called K. MacDermid
Would bet he was picked up to fight Rempe when the teams meet soon.
Some big names out there on the trade bait list: https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-hockey-s-trade-bait-board-1.2079080
now gone Mittelstadt and Walker land in Colorado in 2 separate deals while Henrique and Carrick get to Oilers
Mantha to Vegas, Tarasenko to Panthers
## now Friedman is reporting that Hanifin will be sent to Vegas tonight
Lots of western teams making moves the last 24 hours.
I don't like that.
Quote from: Jockitch on March 01, 2024, 11:16:20 PMSo bout a week ago this young loose cannon called Rempe with the Rangers ran over Devil's Bastien and no teammate really stood up and answered the hit.
Just past 5:30 tonight, Devil's traded with the Avs and got a Bouncer called K. MacDermid
Would bet he was picked up to fight Rempe when the teams meet soon.
I think rempe is over rated. He's big but all offense and no defense, he takes more punches than he lands, just look at him now, 2 black eyes. That Olivier guy killed him in their bout. He won't last in the league
Flames F Pospisil suspended three games: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/calgary-flames-martin-pospisil-suspended-three-games-for-boarding-seattle-kraken-s-vincent-dunn-1.2085782
Full trade:
Pittsburgh trades Jake Guentzel (25% retained) and Ty Smith to Carolina in exchange for Michael Bunting, Ville Koivunen, Vasili Ponomarev, Cruz Lucius, Carolina's 1st RD pick in 2024 (Conditional) and Carolina's 5th RD pick in 2024 (Conditional).
WOWEEEEEEEE what a quantity in return for Guentzel.
I say quantity cuz the valued quality remains to be determined
Canes add for the playoffs, if he gets healthy, and beyond, if he signs .... as he is a UFA
Meanwhile Crosby and his men, playing at Home, go down 6 - 0 to Washington tonight
Pretty quiet morning so far.
Per LeBrun, Capitals F Kuznetsov is getting traded to the Hurricanes.
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/carolina-hurricanes-getting-evgeny-kuznetsov-in-deal-with-washington-capitals-1.2086934
Kraken re-sign F Eberle: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/seattle-kraken-re-sign-jordan-eberle-to-two-year-9-5m-contract-1.2086953
Bruins acquire F Maroon from Wild: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/minnesota-wild-deal-veteran-pat-maroon-to-boston-bruins-1.2086967
Panthers acquire F Okposo from Sabres: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/buffalo-sabres-deal-kyle-okposo-to-florida-panthers-1.2086975
Predators acquire F Zucker from the Coyotes: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nashville-predators-acquire-veteran-jason-zucker-from-arizona-coyotes-1.2086995
Bolts acquire D Dumba from Coyotes: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/arizona-coyotes-deal-matt-dumba-to-tampa-bay-lightning-1.2087119
Star player, still on the Injured list, Thomas Hertl, is going to Vegas ------YIKES they are loaded up
Golden Knights acquire F Hertl from Sharks: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vegas-golden-knights-getting-tomas-hertl-from-san-jose-sharks-pending-trade-call-1.2087139
Spoiled franchise.
Quote from: Jockitch on March 08, 2024, 04:09:09 AMFull trade:
Pittsburgh trades Jake Guentzel (25% retained) and Ty Smith to Carolina in exchange for Michael Bunting, Ville Koivunen, Vasili Ponomarev, Cruz Lucius, Carolina's 1st RD pick in 2024 (Conditional) and Carolina's 5th RD pick in 2024 (Conditional).
WOWEEEEEEEE what a quantity in return for Guentzel.
I say quantity cuz the valued quality remains to be determined
Canes add for the playoffs, if he gets healthy, and beyond, if he signs .... as he is a UFA
Meanwhile Crosby and his men, playing at Home, go down 6 - 0 to Washington tonight
Dubas managing the Penguins as "good" as he did in Toronto!.....ala a one way ticket downhill. Malkin and Sid might not want to hang around for a rebuild as they near end of shelf life in their careers.
Not to defend Dubas but he inherited a pretty lousy situation in Pittsburgh last year. The Penguins are a team on the decline.
If everyone was healthy, Golden Knights would now have $110M in player salaries.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 08, 2024, 09:46:46 PMIf everyone was healthy, Golden Knights would now have $110M in player salaries.
Just ridiculous. There needs to be some sort of adhesion to the salary cap come play-off time.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 08, 2024, 09:46:46 PMIf everyone was healthy, Golden Knights would now have $110M in player salaries.
Vegas on the precipice of falling out of the playoff race though lately. Gone into a slump and several teams on their tail. I hope their doubling down crazy bet blows up in their face! ;) In true Vegas fashion they are gambling Hertl and Stone + some other injured players are back in time for the playoffs. You have to make the playoffs first though for that to pay off. Also depending on the injuries these two players have, they maybe just can't jump in an perform at their old high level immediately. We shall see if the Vegas gamble pays off.
Vegas
PLAYER POSITION UPDATED INJURY INJURY STATUS
Paul Cotter C Sat, Mar 9 Undisclosed Day-to-Day
Alec Martinez D Fri, Mar 8 Lower Body IR. Expected to be out until at least Mar 12
Brett Howden C Thu, Mar 7 Upper Body IR. Expected to be out until at least Mar 12
Mark Stone RW Mon, Mar 4 Upper Body IR. Expected to be out until at least Apr 18
William Carrier LW Mon, Mar 4 Upper Body IR. Expected to be out until at least Mar 12
Tomas Hertl C Mon, Feb 12 Knee IR. Expected to be out until at least Mar 12
Robin Lehner G Tue, Feb 6 Hip IR. Expected to be out until at least Apr 18
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 08, 2024, 06:49:28 PMBolts acquire D Dumba from Coyotes: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/arizona-coyotes-deal-matt-dumba-to-tampa-bay-lightning-1.2087119
One of the few players I wish would never suit up for the Bolts. Sigh.
Quote from: Jockitch on March 08, 2024, 07:12:05 PMStar player, still on the Injured list, Thomas Hertl, is going to Vegas ------YIKES they are loaded up
How in the world are they staying under the cap?
Flyers HC Tortorella suspended two games, fined $50K: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/philadelphia-flyers-coach-john-tortorella-suspended-two-games-for-unprofessional-conduct-1.2088004
I still say we should get LTIR releif for the remaining Wheeler buyout cap hit.
How will Las Vegas be under the cap if those players come back? They can't trade or cut them... and can't make them stay on the IR if they pass a physical.
Will be interesting to see what happens, especially if they miss the playoffs or bow out early.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 11, 2024, 02:50:20 PMI still say we should get LTIR relief for the remaining Wheeler buyout cap hit.
You're joking, right...?
Quote from: theaardvark on March 11, 2024, 02:50:20 PMHow will Las Vegas be under the cap if those players come back? They can't trade or cut them... and can't make them stay on the IR if they pass a physical.
Will be interesting to see what happens, especially if they miss the playoffs or bow out early.
They won't be under the cap, but I doubt any of those players return for the balance of the season. Once the playoffs start, the cap no longer exists. So, don't be shocked if they're all magically healthy in time for the first round.
I hope they miss the playoffs.
Canucks G Demko out 2-3 weeks (knee): https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vancouver-canucks-thatcher-demko-out-two-to-three-weeks-with-knee-injury-1.2088283
Another report says Demko will be out 2 to 4 weeks. Either way, it's a blow to the Canucks.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 11, 2024, 04:48:22 PMYou're joking, right...?
They won't be under the cap, but I doubt any of those players return for the balance of the season. Once the playoffs start, the cap no longer exists. So, don't be shocked if they're all magically healthy in time for the first round.
I hope they miss the playoffs.
Nope, not joking in the least... if a player is traded and a team retains 50% of his salary, and that player goes LTIR, does the team retaining salary get cap relief?
As to Vegas and the cap, a lot of those players are due to return this week... can't keep them on LTIR if they can play...
Wheelers contract was bought out by the Jets. He then became an FA. So, the Jets have nothing to do with his current contract.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 11, 2024, 04:48:22 PMYou're joking, right...?
They won't be under the cap, but I doubt any of those players return for the balance of the season. Once the playoffs start, the cap no longer exists. So, don't be shocked if they're all magically healthy in time for the first round.
I hope they miss the playoffs.
And this is the problem. The cap should be in place for the playoffs.
Well Rempe should get at least 3 games for that elbow.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 11, 2024, 09:18:23 PMNope, not joking in the least... if a player is traded and a team retains 50% of his salary, and that player goes LTIR, does the team retaining salary get cap relief?
Am I missing something here or do you think the Jets traded Wheeler?
He was bought out on Jun 30, 2023* (https://www.capfriendly.com/players/blake-wheeler) and signed with the Rangers as a UFA.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 11, 2024, 09:49:16 PMAnd this is the problem. The cap should be in place for the playoffs.
It's one of many with the NHL from a business standpoint.
Really love the lead up and the day of the Trade Deadline, however, certainly agree that the playoffs should maintain that Cap maximum for each and every game played in playoffs
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 12, 2024, 12:12:33 PMAm I missing something here or do you think the Jets traded Wheeler?
He was bought out on Jun 30, 2023* (https://www.capfriendly.com/players/blake-wheeler) and signed with the Rangers as a UFA.
It's one of many with the NHL from a business standpoint.
I fully well know Wheeler was bought out... just suggesting that we are paying a player cap money when he is unable to perform... there is an equivalency...
Quote from: theaardvark on March 13, 2024, 02:28:38 AMI fully well know Wheeler was bought out... just suggesting that we are paying a player cap money when he is unable to perform... there is an equivalency...
Explain how. Because it doesn't sound like you understand how the buyout process works.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 13, 2024, 12:11:52 PMExplain how. Because it doesn't sound like you understand how the buyout process works.
He doesn't. That's why he asked the question.
Simply say that no, we are not eligible for any cap relief.
Scuffle breaks out at Red Wings practice: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/scuffle-between-ben-chiarot-lucas-raymond-broken-up-at-red-wings-practice-1.2089303
Reminds me of this: https://www.tsn.ca/wheeler-booted-from-jets-practice-after-altercation-1.1037016
Rempe gets 4 games.
The Desert Dogs Saga continues: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/arizona-coyotes-cleared-to-bid-for-tract-of-land-in-north-phoenix-for-new-arena-site-1.2090043
QuoteThe Coyotes have been searching for a permanent home since their former owner took the franchise in bankruptcy in 2009.
Fifteen years of this silliness.
Very good game between the Ava's and Oilers last night. Ava's win it with .5 of a second left in OT.
The Predators are on a tear right now with a league-leading .842 points percentages since the all-star break (14-0-2).
Blackhawks take another loss: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/court-denies-chicago-blackhawks-request-to-dismiss-suit-filed-by-second-john-doe-1.2095157
What a slimy organization.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 26, 2024, 12:36:15 PMBlackhawks take another loss: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/court-denies-chicago-blackhawks-request-to-dismiss-suit-filed-by-second-john-doe-1.2095157
What a slimy organization.
Wonder if Chevy gets implicated... or players...
Some great match ups tonight.
Oilers beat the Ava's last night, good chance for us to gain some ground.
NHL, Coyotes preparing for possible relocation: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/nhl-arizona-coyotes-preparing-for-possible-relocation-to-utah/
Feel that the potential relocation, truly could not happen fast enough
McDavid took tonight off vs Vegas due to some LBI
Love watching Vegas lose. ;D
More on the situation in Arizona: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nhl-sends-memo-to-board-of-governors-on-speculation-surrounding-coyotes-salt-lake-city-1.2102621
Ducks F Silfverberg announces retirement at end of season: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/anaheim-ducks-jakob-silfverberg-33-to-retire-at-end-of-season-1.2102934
Like clockwork: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/golden-knights-mark-stone-cleared-to-practise-in-non-contact-jersey/
Greasy, greasy clockwork.
(https://i.imgur.com/kGovobD.png)
NHL making moves: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nhl-wants-arizona-coyotes-move-to-salt-lake-city-settled-before-playoffs-1.2104655
Quote...the Coyotes will likely be sold to Utah Jazz owner Ryan Smith shortly after the team's final game on Wednesday, and that the deal will include a provision guaranteeing current owner Alex Meruelo an expansion team in Arizona if a new arena is built within five years.
Can't say I like the idea of more than 32 teams.
Looks like Dubois is back on the 4th line in LA... I wonder how much of his deal LA will have to swallow to ship him to MTL? 8 yrs at $8.5, isn't it? Chevy dodged a bullet with that one...
Quote from: theaardvark on April 15, 2024, 06:18:05 PMLooks like Dubois is back on the 4th line in LA... I wonder how much of his deal LA will have to swallow to ship him to MTL? 8 yrs at $8.5, isn't it? Chevy dodged a bullet with that one...
His NMC kicks in next season, so he'll likely be the Kings' problem for the foreseeable future.
Cheveldayoff absolutely fleeced the Kings with that trade.
Should be clarification for the most part after tonight's games
P. Roy and his Isles are on the brink
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 15, 2024, 06:32:50 PMHis NMC kicks in next season, so he'll likely be the Kings' problem for the foreseeable future.
Cheveldayoff absolutely fleeced the Kings with that trade.
When does "next season" start? Can they move him now? At the draft?
I can't see him being a King next year, unless they change coaches too... yes, Hiller is interim, but he's done pretty good so far.
Maybe management looks for an HC that can get something out of PLD? unless a coach thinks they can get him rolling, having an $8.5 million 4th line centre is going to hamstring the team.
For all the Chevy hate out there (and there are good reasons going back to his Chicago days), he certainly made a Silk Purse out of a sow's ear here. Liane is out of the league at the moment, PLD is on a 4th line, and we have Vilardi and Iafallo playing significant roles here, and Kupari to boot.
I heard discussion about whether to start LB in the playoffs if we are matched up with a team he has a better record against. The fact it is even a discussion, when you have a Vezina goalie who is having a great year, well, could you want more? How many goals against until you pull CH37? If he has 2 games where he struggles and we lose, is it a consideration in game 3? I really hope this is never a consideration, but can you imagine? Could we even rest CH37 if we get 2 or 3 wins in a series? Is that a luxury any team has had in recent years?
Quote from: theaardvark on April 15, 2024, 08:19:48 PMCan they move him now? At the draft?
No, they can't move him now; the trade deadline was weeks ago. I suppose they could trade him at the draft, much in the same way the Jets did last year, but that doesn't seem likely when you look at the contract particulars.
From what I can figure out, the "trade deadline" only applies to players moving teams AND being eligible for the playoffs.
As Montreal is out of the playoffs anyway, if LA wanted to, no reason they can't trade PLD today to MTL, he just can't play for them this year.
Would you want to trade a serviceable piece before you start the playoffs? Even if he's only your 4th line C at the moment? Of course not. But as soon as they are eliminated, and before 2024-25 starts, they can move him.
Would MTL want him? There's no denying his ability. Will "home cooking" make a big change in his play? They'd have to think so.
So, what does the trade look like? PLD + a 2nd round pick, retaining $2.5mil/year of contract for a 3rd round pick? Or does MTL have a spare piece with salary attached to dump back offsetting a few years of the retained salary?
Going into next season with PLD and his contract on the books means a world of issues for them.
Although, in retrospect, a NMC can be waived, and I am sure PLD would do so to go home... right now, the Kings have that control, once the new contract year starts, PLD has all the control.
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Sabres fire HC Granato: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/buffalo-sabres-fire-don-granato-two-other-coaches-1.2105114
Wild re-sign G Fleury, 2024-25 will be his final season: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/minnesota-wild-re-sign-goaltender-marc-andre-fleury-to-one-year-deal-1.2105670
Quote from: theaardvark on April 15, 2024, 08:19:48 PMFor all the Chevy hate out there (and there are good reasons going back to his Chicago days), he certainly made a Silk Purse out of a sow's ear here. Liane is out of the league at the moment, PLD is on a 4th line, and we have Vilardi and Iafallo playing significant roles here, and Kupari to boot.
You're the only one still bringing up this "Chevy hate" from what I can tell...
NHL, BOG to vote on Coyotes' sale, relocation today: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nhl-to-hold-3pm-et-board-call-on-coyotes-sale-1.2106116
Watched the 3rd. period of the Coyotes and Oilers last night. Coyotes slap the Oilers in there final home game. Some talented young players on that team.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 18, 2024, 02:07:06 PMNHL, BOG to vote on Coyotes' sale, relocation today: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nhl-to-hold-3pm-et-board-call-on-coyotes-sale-1.2106116
"The Associated Press reported Saturday that the Coyotes will likely be sold to Utah Jazz owner Ryan Smith and the deal will include a provision guaranteeing current owner Alex Meruelo an expansion team in Arizona if a new arena is built within five years."
Bullcrap. Meruelo messed up the franchise and the league for years, culminating with the embarrassing year in a 5,000 seat arena, should disqualify him from ever getting a franchise again, let alone an expansion team.
Want a team if you get a new arena? Put that in your sale to Utah. Have a right to rebuy the team (at a premium) if you get an arena in 5 years. Its not like Utah is dying to have a hockey team. This move is a "well, I guess so" add on of an NHL team to an NBA team... like the Flames buying the Stamps, but with the arena as an added bonus.
1996 - Jets sold to Arizona for $170 mil
2019 - Yotes sod to Meurello for $425 million
2024 - Yotes roster and draft picks, but not name or history, sold to Utah for $1 billion. Yotes name and history remain in limbo for 5 years in case Meurello can put together a stadium, at which time he can buy an expansion franchise for $1 billion from the NHL, making the league a ridiculous 33 teams.
Anyone feel sorry for anyone who participated in the Arizona experiment?
1996-2019, they "lost" just over $200 million, but made $250mil selling the team.
2109-2024 the team "lost" less than $100 million on paper, but Meurello made half a billion on the "sale" of its assets.
Not having a tag day anytime soon for these guys.
Fun opening weekend to the post-season.
Today's shocking news: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/golden-knights-captain-mark-stone-says-he-ll-be-in-game-1-lineup-1.2107946
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 22, 2024, 07:47:12 PMToday's shocking news: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/golden-knights-captain-mark-stone-says-he-ll-be-in-game-1-lineup-1.2107946
It looks like LTIR #24 is going to be the Knights MVP this year...
Lindy Ruff, back as head coach of the Buffalo Sabres.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 23, 2024, 07:57:39 PMLindy Ruff, back as head coach of the Buffalo Sabres.
This timeline is wild.
Some baffling whining from Bruins HC: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/jim-montgomery-questions-toronto-maple-leafs-boston-bruins-series-schedule-1.2108966
What an insipid thing to complain about during the playoffs.
Sharks fire HC Quinn: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/sharks-fire-head-coach-quinn-after-last-place-season-1.2109006
Bob Cole passed away at 90. One of the greats.
Sports broadcasting legend. RIP
Fortunate to hear the magnificent play by play of the legendary Bob Cole
Such a tremendous hockey announcing style and wonderful voice.
Sincere condolences to all near and dear to him R. I. P. Mr Cole
wow, Dallas has some young talent.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 30, 2024, 07:24:41 PMwow, Dallas has some young talent.
I really hope they can dispatch those LTIR Knights.
Leafs F Matthews to miss game 6: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/auston-matthews-out-again-for-toronto-maple-leafs-in-must-win-game-6-vs-boston-bruins-1.2114418
A couple of very good games tonight. Canucks moving on. Games 7 in Dallas.
Leaf's put up a good fight, but just not enough.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 05, 2024, 04:14:18 AMLeaf's put up a good fight, but just not enough.
Why samonov dip isn't okay that dump in is beyond me. Why play so passive?!?! Off to the golf coarse now....
Buh-bye, LTIR Knights. Good riddance.
Major kudos to the Stars for ousting a very stacked Vegas team
Senators expected to hire Travis Green as next HC: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ottawa-senators-set-to-hire-travis-green-as-head-coach-1.2116076
Kings won't buy out F Dubois: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/rob-blake-says-los-angeles-kings-will-not-buyout-pierre-luc-dubois-1.2116324
Still can't believe how badly Cheveldayoff fleeced the Kings.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 07, 2024, 02:56:37 PMKings won't buy out F Dubois: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/rob-blake-says-los-angeles-kings-will-not-buyout-pierre-luc-dubois-1.2116324
Still can't believe how badly Cheveldayoff fleeced the Kings.
That would be handing Dubois a reward for bad play.
No, they need to trade him, even if it means taking back salary. Probably an equivalent to what a buyout would cost could get a team to take him, especially a Montreal, or even the Rangers.
Nice win for the Bruins. Panthers looked very flat.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 07, 2024, 07:54:58 PMNice win for the Bruins. Panthers looked very flat.
They looked rusty, especially later in the game. I expect they'll be better tomorrow.
Talk about rust, how about the Ava's in the first period.
Ava's played much better in the 2nd.period.
Ava's win in OT after bring outplayed for most of it.
Very good game.
2023 Draft:
Chicago
Anaheim
Columbus
San Jose
Montreal
Arizona
Philly
2024 Draft:
San Jose
Chicago
Anaheim
Columbus
Montreal
Utah
Ottawa
Jets first pick will be #37. Chicago with 5 picks in the first two rounds.
Avs with a massive comeback win after being down 3-0.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 08, 2024, 03:48:45 AM2023 Draft:
Chicago
Anaheim
Columbus
San Jose
Montreal
Arizona
Philly
2024 Draft:
San Jose
Chicago
Anaheim
Columbus
Montreal
Utah
Ottawa
Jets first pick will be #37. Chicago with 5 picks in the first two rounds.
Wow, first five picks seem to always go to only a few teams...
Certainly seemed a great set of trades at the time, but bowing out embarassingly in round one and mow having these pieces lost to FA and having the cupboards bare on draft day, not optimal...
Quote from: theaardvark on May 08, 2024, 03:47:22 PMCertainly seemed a great set of trades at the time, but bowing out embarassingly in round one and mow having these pieces lost to FA and having the cupboards bare on draft day, not optimal...
Easy to say that in hindsight. The Jets made the right moves at the time to bolster their roster, so I don't think there should be any remorse in that regard. It didn't work out as hoped but that's the way it goes sometimes.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 08, 2024, 04:24:37 PMEasy to say that in hindsight. The Jets made the right moves at the time to bolster their roster, so I don't think there should be any remorse in that regard. It didn't work out as hoped but that's the way it goes sometimes.
Of course. just a little "buyers remorse". No one would or could fault Chevy for those trades, its just the result was bad enough, and then you get to the draft table and start at 37 and then not again until the 4th round... yikes.
Maybe Chevy pulls off a draft day extravaganza. I really hope he doesn't trade Ehlers, but that would be a logical bait... bundle Pionk or Schmidt with him and get back some DP's... then we only need to buy out 1 DMan...
Quote from: theaardvark on May 08, 2024, 04:52:58 PMMaybe Chevy pulls off a draft day extravaganza. I really hope he doesn't trade Ehlers, but that would be a logical bait... bundle Pionk or Schmidt with him and get back some DP's... then we only need to buy out 1 DMan...
If the Jets bundle Ehlers and Pionk or Schmidt, I hope it's for a proven piece that can bolster the blue line. Moving two pieces for draft picks doesn't make much sense at this juncture.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 08, 2024, 05:29:49 PMIf the Jets bundle Ehlers and Pionk or Schmidt, I hope it's for a proven piece that can bolster the blue line. Moving two pieces for draft picks doesn't make much sense at this juncture.
Sorry, of course we'd want a decent D back as well...
Nice comeback win by Vancouver.
Leafs fire HC Keefe: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs-fire-head-coach-sheldon-keefe-after-latest-first-round-exit-1.2117263
Utah to unveil team branding for 2025-26 season: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/utah-s-nhl-team-to-debut-name-logo-colours-in-2025-26-1.2117122
Seems strange to have to take so long when other relocations didn't.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 09, 2024, 03:50:38 PMUtah to unveil team branding for 2025-26 season: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/utah-s-nhl-team-to-debut-name-logo-colours-in-2025-26-1.2117122
Seems strange to have to take so long when other relocations didn't.
Weird...so what are they doing for the 24-25 season? Just rocking the coyotes old uniforms ?
I'd imagine generic uniforms similar to the current PWHL teams.
Quote from: bluengold204 on May 10, 2024, 06:27:44 PMWeird...so what are they doing for the 24-25 season? Just rocking the coyotes old uniforms ?
No idea. The article didn't really touch on that outside of stating that the word Utah will be featured on the jersey.
Pretty bush league.
Ava's with slow start. Benn should have had 5 for that head shot.
The Utah Utes.
Yikes.
What kind of professional branding organization needs a year and a half to come up with a logo and name?
Have they heard of Fiverr? 99 designs? Freelancer? 48hourslogo?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 10, 2024, 06:34:52 PMNo idea. The article didn't really touch on that outside of stating that the word Utah will be featured on the jersey.
Pretty bush league.
I don't understand why teams do this. If you're not ready to unveil a team, don't do it.
Really like this Dallas team.
Didn't like some of the penalties the Oilers got away with the other night. McDavid high sticks Hughes in the face and cuts him, no penalty. Ryan spears a Canuck in the groin from behind and only gets 2 minutes.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 12, 2024, 05:27:15 PMReally like this Dallas team.
Didn't like some of the penalties the Oilers got away with the other night. McDavid high sticks Hughes in the face and cuts him, no penalty. Ryan spears a Canuck in the groin from behind and only gets 2 minutes.
Dallas is good but incredibly boring to watch. I fall asleep every game.
Quote from: bluengold204 on May 13, 2024, 01:04:22 PMDallas is good but incredibly boring to watch. I fall asleep every game.
I'd take boring wins over exciting losses any day.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 13, 2024, 01:37:01 PMI'd take boring wins over exciting losses any day.
Agree. I also like the way the Canucks are playing. Third string goal is pretty hot right now. Also there PP will make you pay.
Canucks' D Soucy to have hearing with DOPS, D Zadorov fined $5K: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/canucks-carson-soucy-to-have-hearing-for-post-game-cross-check-on-oilers-connor-mcdavid-1.2120040
Soucy gets 1 game for that cross check, but McDavid should get a fine for his slash on Soucy. Hyman with a nasty cross check also on that play.
Nichushkin gone again. This will hurt the Ava's.
Dallas looked very strong tonight.
Nice road win by the Canes.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 14, 2024, 04:49:16 AMNichushkin gone again. This will hurt the Ava's.
Big loss considering how well he's played. I hope he gets the help he needs.
No one is saying it, but who isn't thinking it. Why now? If he was out for the whole playoffs, its a different series with the Jets. And did putting him back in cause this relapse?
Whatever is troubling him, we wish him well in recovery.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 14, 2024, 03:37:20 PMNo one is saying it, but who isn't thinking it. Why now? If he was out for the whole playoffs, its a different series with the Jets. And did putting him back in cause this relapse?
Whatever is troubling him, we wish him well in recovery.
Why Now. Because he probably failed a mandatory drug test.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 14, 2024, 04:49:16 AMNichushkin gone again. This will hurt the Ava's.
Just curious if "Ava's" is a nickname you use for the Avs or if it's an autocorrect issue?
Nichushkin was likely tested at random - and failed - due to his being in the player assistance program from mid-January to late February (https://www.nhl.com/news/valeri-nichushkin-placed-in-stage-three-of-player-assistance-program).
If it was a drug test, how often has he been tested? He was on fire during the Jets series... if it was substance aided, well...
Bruins played an excellent road game.
Rangers D Trouba wins Mark Messier Leadership Award: https://www.nhl.com/news/jacob-trouba-wins-mark-messier-nhl-leadership-award
Good read on the NHL Player Assistance Program: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/participation-in-the-nhl-s-player-assistance-program-is-up-this-season-that-may-not-be-a-bad-thing-1.2121323
This part stuck out for me:
QuoteHelp is offered for anything from alcohol or drug abuse to mental health issues, sleeping problems or a gambling addiction. Bettman, who has been commissioner since 1993, said a goal when launching the program was to educate and counsel players and families, as well as providing treatment when necessary. It now includes access to confidential counseling, a phone number available any time and annual meetings for every team with program administrators.
Seems like a good and useful program to have.
Really disappointed with the ref's in the playoffs. Very inconsistent from game to game.
Rangers are the first team to advance to the conference finals.
Canucks dominated most of this game. Big win to go up 3-2 in the series.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 17, 2024, 01:23:52 PMRangers are the first team to advance to the conference finals.
Shocking third period collapse by the Canes. Didn't like the goal tending at all. Wouldn't be surprised to see the end of Freddy in Carolina. I sure hope Chevy has reached out to Rod Brind'Amour.
Excellent game, but Dallas is moving on.
Wow what a pleasure watching two very entertaining games.
Dallas was so controlling, especially in both O.T's and the Panthers are just flat out powerful
Drooling with envy at some outstanding players and wishing, somehow, that a few could become Jets
Panthers and the Rangers should be a good series.
Without any hint of favouritism or bias, let me just say "GO OILERS"!!
Boeser out for the Canucks with blood clotting issues.
Wheeler, available for the Rangers.
And then there were four. Crazy finish in Vancouver tonight.
Oilers D Bouchard's 20 points through two playoff rounds is the most by a defenseman in NHL history.
Sheldon Keefe off to coach the New Jersey Devils.
Bobrovsky stole the show at MSG last night. A very entertaining opener to the ECF.
Canucks' HC Tocchet wins Jack Adams Award: https://www.tsn.ca/vancouver-canucks-rick-tocchet-wins-jack-adams-award-1.2124448
Well deserved with the season he and his team had.
Devils hire Keefe as new HC: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/new-jersey-devils-name-sheldon-keefe-head-coach-1.2124376
Kings extend HC Hiller: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/los-angeles-kings-remove-interim-tag-extend-jim-hiller-on-multi-year-deal-1.2124214
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 23, 2024, 02:08:25 PMCanucks' HC Tocchet wins Jack Adams Award: https://www.tsn.ca/vancouver-canucks-rick-tocchet-wins-jack-adams-award-1.2124448
Well deserved with the season he and his team had.
I'm sure if Bowness had announced that he was retiring before the voting, he may have gotten more votes as a tip of the hat...
Quote from: theaardvark on May 23, 2024, 04:08:32 PMI'm sure if Bowness had announced that he was retiring before the voting, he may have gotten more votes as a tip of the hat...
I highly doubt that.
Canucks' Allvin, Stars' Nill, Panthers' Zito finalists for GM of the year: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/canucks-patrik-allvin-stars-jim-nill-panthers-bill-zito-up-for-nhl-gm-of-the-year-award-1.2125118
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 23, 2024, 06:13:26 PMCanucks' Allvin, Stars' Nill, Panthers' Zito finalists for GM of the year: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/canucks-patrik-allvin-stars-jim-nill-panthers-bill-zito-up-for-nhl-gm-of-the-year-award-1.2125118
Surprised Chevy didn't get consideration, his moves at the deadline were literally epic.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 23, 2024, 07:22:42 PMSurprised Chevy didn't get consideration, his moves at the deadline were literally epic.
I'd like to know the vote tally, as I'd imagine he's gotta be in the top five. TDL moves aside, the Dubois trade and re-signing both Hellebuyck and Scheifele were beyond masterful.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 23, 2024, 07:22:42 PMSurprised Chevy didn't get consideration, his moves at the deadline were literally epic.
Ya he made some good moves but teams that get bounced easily in the first round of the playoffs rarely get any type of awards
Quote from: dd on May 26, 2024, 02:08:32 AMYa he made some good moves but teams that get bounced easily in the first round of the playoffs rarely get any type of awards
They're regular season awards, so what happens in the post-season has absolutely no bearing on any of them.
Blue Jackets name Waddell president, GM: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/columbus-blue-jackets-officially-name-don-waddell-president-general-manager-1.2127258
Wheeler in for the Rangers...
Wheeler the difference in the game... but not in a good way.
If Zibanejad doesn't make that lame pass attempt and instead sends the puck up the boards, that sequence doesn't happen.
I also have no idea why Laviolette would put a rusty Wheeler out in OT.
But good. I'd rather see the Panthers win the ECF.
Zibanejad made a similar mistake last night. And the result was an empty netter for the Panthers.
Panthers are a win away from the SCF!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 31, 2024, 02:14:10 PMZibanejad made a similar mistake last night. And the result was an empty netter for the Panthers.
Panthers are a win away from the SCF!
I don't see the Rangers winning the next two games against the Cats. I also don't see the Oilers or Stars beating Florida in the final. At this point Florida has to be my favourite to win it all.
POMO quits the jets and goes to back to back Stanley cup finals.
So happy for Moe.
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/winnipeg-jets/latest-news/former-jets-defenceman-mark-stuart-heading-to-stanley-cup-with-oilers
I had no idea Mark Stuart was coaching. Maybe the Jets should try and pry him away.
Stars F and veteran beauty Pavelski retires: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/dallas-stars-joe-pavelski-not-planning-to-play-next-season-1.2129955
Shame he never got his name on the mug. But a HOF career all the same.
Bob was outstanding.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 09, 2024, 04:25:59 AMBob was outstanding.
Could earn himself a Conn Smythe if he keeps it up.
Game 2 should be a gooder tonight.
NHL boosts salary cap to $88M for 2024-25 season: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nhl-boosts-salary-cap-to-88-million-for-2024-25-season-1.2132168
Largest increase since the 2018-19 season.
Been reported or is it a rumour ..... that the Capitals have bought CapFriendly
E. Friedman talked about it on the Jeff Marek show and says it isn't official but the speculation is there.
It also is surmised that the NHL has asked Washington to make CapFriendly available till after the Draft and the beginning of Free Agency.
However, for fans, journalists and especially teams using this source (apparently it is not normal for teams to have their own source) for this info and who have used the Cap program ---- sadly it is history
...... go figure.
So as of July 5th, if the above is true, thie site would go black, as the Washington organization would then have it as their own asset
Quote from: Jockitch on June 10, 2024, 09:20:07 PMBeen reported or is it a rumour ..... that the Capitals have bought CapFriendly
E. Friedman talked about it on the Jeff Marek show and says it isn't official but the speculation is there.
It also is surmised that the NHL has asked Washington to make CapFriendly available till after the Draft and the beginning of Free Agency.
However, for fans, journalists and especially teams using this source (apparently it is not normal for teams to have their own source) for this info and who have used the Cap program ---- sadly it is history
...... go figure.
So as of July 5th, if the above is true, thie site would go black, as the Washington organization would then have it as their own asset
Why would they do that? Because "CapFriendly" and "Capitals" are similar website names? Certainly not for the data which is all in the public domain. And any calculation algos are easy to come up with.
I can't see any benefit to a team removing this site from public use. Now, if CapFriendly's creators and owners can monitize the sale of it, all the power to them...
Panthers are so good at blocking shots. And, there PK is excellent.
Not sure if splitting the next two games will be enough for the Oilers. They've been pretty bad so far - and undisciplined.
In answer, for what I know
CapFriendly, which was a huge boost for users, is a big multi tasker, info storer .
Most teams aren't close to having their own program to fire up all this info. Supposedly takes years to program
There will be a scramble, when this goes dark, for another site to be in the public domain that offers this stuff
There's another Cap one out there, not as good apparently but I guess they'll be getting more traffic so they'll probably work to upgrade it.
Other news, Laine wants out of CBJ and a new beginning and CBJ looking for trade partners.
Quote from: DCM on June 12, 2024, 10:23:48 PMThere's another Cap one out there, not as good apparently but I guess they'll be getting more traffic so they'll probably work to upgrade it.
Other news, Laine wants out of CBJ and a new beginning and CBJ looking for trade partners.
That would be an interesting way to trade Ehlers in a three way trade where he and Laine end up on the same team...
Oilers looked better tonight, but still down 3-0.
oh my how the Panthers just seem to get results.
Either sticks in the gaps, play on the boards , timely saves and finish around the net on chances created
Hats off to PoMo and his staff who really have a quality bunch playing great playoff hockey
Oilers need better goaltending. Skinner has let them down. If Oilers trade for Helleybyck in the off season, they'll win the cup next year.
Vancouver resigns dman Hronek for, to me, a crazy 8 yr., $7.25M AAV
How powerful is his Agent ---- WOW Personally would have thought a M less and maybe just 5-6 yrs tops
Oil stay alive and force game 6 back in Edmonton.
Pressure mounting on the Cats.
Quote from: dd on June 14, 2024, 07:55:56 PMOilers need better goaltending. Skinner has let them down. If Oilers trade for Helleybyck in the off season, they'll win the cup next year.
LOL
Who are the Jets getting back for Hellebuyck?
Geez how entertaining was that Oiler's victory
Devil's get their goalie, J. Markstrom, in a trade wit the Flames
Quote from: Jockitch on June 19, 2024, 06:15:55 PMDevil's get their goalie, J. Markstrom, in a trade wit the Flames
Great move by the Devils.
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/calgary-flames-trade-g-jacob-markstrom-to-new-jersey-devils-1.2136813
Sharks claim F Goodrow: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/san-jose-sharks-claim-barclay-goodrow-off-waivers-from-rangers-1.2136873
PLD to Washington for Kuemper
Kings certainly didn't waste time with PLD, who seemed uninspired to perform for his $$.
Big contract and then turns into a bad teammate and lacking enthusiasm and voila ----- dumped
Good for both teams I figure
Quote from: Jockitch on June 19, 2024, 09:46:20 PMKings certainly didn't waste time with PLD, who seemed uninspired to perform for his $$.
Big contract and then turns into a bad teammate and lacking enthusiasm and voila ----- dumped
Good for both teams I figure
Talented player when you decides to pull his head out of his ...
Quote from: Pigskin on June 19, 2024, 07:34:23 PMPLD to Washington for Kuemper
Blake moves his albatross, but the effects will be felt for a while still.
Avs F Cogliano retires: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/colorado-avalanche-f-andrew-cogliano-announces-retirement-after-17-seasons-1.2137961
Game 7. What more could you ask for?
For one night, I will put aside my hatred of Connor McDavid and increase my already high level of hatred of Paul Maurice and be an Oilers fan. Finish. The. Story.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 22, 2024, 05:05:50 AMGame 7. What more could you ask for?
Craziest SCF in a good while. Game 7 should be a doozy on Monday night.
F Brassard retires: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/derick-brassard-retires-after-17-year-nhl-career-1.2139160
What a classy guy Paul Maurice is....interviewed immediately after winning the Stanley Cup, he said he wishes the Winnipeg Jets would win the next Stanley Cup. Very happy Coach Mo won himself the big one!!
Happy for Moe. Great year for the Panthers.
Quote from: dd on June 25, 2024, 03:08:00 AMWhat a classy guy Paul Maurice is....interviewed immediately after winning the Stanley Cup, he said he wishes the Winnipeg Jets would win the next Stanley Cup. Very happy Coach Mo won himself the big one!!
Funny. I wanted to barf.
Hate it. Hate the Panthers. Boo Maurice. :-\ McDavid had one job to do, smh.
Pretty solid game 7 to cap off a really entertaining SCF.
Nice to see Maurice finally hoist Lord Stanley. Gotta love that shoutout to the Jets, too.
Kudos to McDavid for a historic post-season run and Conn Smythe.
More bad news in the desert: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/report-alex-meruelo-walking-away-from-arizona-coyotes-ownership-1.2139764
QuoteIt appears that Alex Meruelo is walking away from the ownership group of the Arizona Coyotes.
Sources tell Craig Morgan and PHNX Sports that a week after the team's plan to purchase land in Phoenix fell through, Meruelo and ownership addressed Coyotes staff on Monday and told them they have no plans to pursue further arena options.
A 110-acre tract of land in North Phoenix had been targeted by Meruelo in hopes of ending the Coyotes' long-running bid to find a permanent home. When the auction for the land appraised at $68.5 million was pushed back until this summer, Meruelo followed the advice of the NHL and opted to sell the franchise to Utah Jazz owners Ryan and Ashley Smith in April.
The Smiths moved the franchise to Salt Lake City, renaming it the Utah Hockey Club. Meruelo retained the Coyotes' name, logo and trademark with plans to resurrect the team as an expansion franchise if a new arena is built within five years.
With that land auction now cancelled, the future of the team has been in doubt.
Avs re-sign F Mittelstadt: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/colorado-avalanche-sign-casey-mittelstadt-to-three-year-17-25-million-contract-extension-1.2139911
Bruins trade G Ullmark to Senators: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ottawa-senators-acquire-linus-ullmark-from-boston-bruins-1.2139592
Quote from: J5V on June 25, 2024, 03:48:35 AMFunny. I wanted to barf.
Why?? I thought it was a huge amount of respect shown for the jets fan base that in his moment of euphoria he mentions the jets, he didn't have to do it, but he did anyways. I thought that that showed he wanted to win a cup for us but couldn't and wished we d win the next one. Not for the panthers to repeat, he wanted Winnipeg to win the next one. Won't happen but it was sincere
Panthers win with such a great defensive job on McDavid and his entourage
Maurice continues to be a classy man, who, with his staff, certainly got the best out of his soldiers
His "bonus" mention of a wish for the Jets, was so very kind
HHOF 2024 inductees: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/pavel-datsyuk-shea-weber-headline-hockey-hall-of-fame-s-class-of-2024-1.2140085
Quote from: dd on June 25, 2024, 06:44:48 PMWhy?? I thought it was a huge amount of respect shown for the jets fan base that in his moment of euphoria he mentions the jets, he didn't have to do it, but he did anyways. I thought that that showed he wanted to win a cup for us but couldn't and wished we d win the next one. Not for the panthers to repeat, he wanted Winnipeg to win the next one. Won't happen but it was sincere
If you're happy praising him, fine. Personally, I'm glad Maurice is gone from the Peg and the Jets and frankly I don't ever want to hear him mention the Jets again. When we do win a cup I don't want him associated with the Jets in any way, shape, or form. I much prefer coaches that see the job through until the end and don't bail for greener pastures elsewhere. Best scenario for me would be the Jets beating a team that he coaches for the cup. For this Jets fan, the day he walked out on this team is the day he became the enemy. His comments about the Jets made me want to vomit.
Quote from: J5V on June 26, 2024, 12:47:11 AMIf you're happy praising him, fine. Personally, I'm glad Maurice is gone from the Peg and the Jets and frankly I don't ever want to hear him mention the Jets again. When we do win a cup I don't want him associated with the Jets in any way, shape, or form. I much prefer coaches that see the job through until the end and don't bail for greener pastures elsewhere. Best scenario for me would be the Jets beating a team that he coaches for the cup. For this Jets fan, the day he walked out on this team is the day he became the enemy. His comments about the Jets made me want to vomit.
Well go barf then. He left the jets as he said he couldn't take them any further that they needed someone else delivering the message to them. He could have just rode it out and collected his cheque but he was honest and up front, rare traits in today's game. I interpreted his resignation as he wasn't getting the players he needed to be competitive so he said fine Chevy it's your show I'm done. And he was right. Maurice wasn't the problem for the Jets, talent was. Still it. And you're dreaming if you think the jets are winning a cup anytime soon, half their lineup should be in the AHL.
Quote from: dd on June 26, 2024, 01:12:16 AMWell go barf then.
LOL. I already have, figuratively.
Quote from: dd on June 26, 2024, 01:12:16 AMHe left the jets as he said he couldn't take them any further that they needed someone else delivering the message to them. He could have just rode it out and collected his cheque but he was honest and up front, rare traits in today's game. I interpreted his resignation as he wasn't getting the players he needed to be competitive so he said fine Chevy it's your show I'm done. And he was right. Maurice wasn't the problem for the Jets, talent was. Still it.
I know that's the story we got from the media. How believable it is obviously differs between us. I think the truth is a lot closer to Maurice didn't want to put in the time and work necessary to bring this team along so he bailed. Nothing necessarily wrong with that and he obviously got what he wanted, a ready-made team that was ready to compete for the cup. Frame it any way you like, he quit on us.
Quote from: dd on June 26, 2024, 01:12:16 AMAnd you're dreaming if you think the jets are winning a cup anytime soon, half their lineup should be in the AHL.
Wow. A little down on the boys are you? Here's to hoping they win it all in my lifetime. Go Jets Go!
Quote from: dd on June 26, 2024, 01:12:16 AMhalf their lineup should be in the AHL.
What a woefully ignorant thing to say.
Quote from: J5V on June 26, 2024, 02:33:50 AMI think the truth is a lot closer to Maurice didn't want to put in the time and work necessary to bring this team along so he bailed.
Quite the baseless accusation here. What did Maurice do or say for you to come to such a conclusion?
Watch his exit presser from Dec. 2021. The words come directly from the horse's mouth, not the media.
link: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-head-coach-paul-maurice-resigns/
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2024, 01:34:26 PMQuite the baseless accusation here. What did Maurice do or say for you to come to such a conclusion?
Watch his exit presser from Dec. 2021. The words come directly from the horse's mouth, not the media.
link: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-head-coach-paul-maurice-resigns/
Thanks for the link. He says he doesn't have the same passion after the lockout year but I guess he found it again when he signed on with Florida. I find it odd that he shocks the Jets by leaving and then finds himself coaching the best team in the league a few months later. Doesn't pass the sniff test for me.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2024, 01:34:26 PMWhat a woefully ignorant thing to say.
Quite the baseless accusation here. What did Maurice do or say for you to come to such a conclusion?
Watch his exit presser from Dec. 2021. The words come directly from the horse's mouth, not the media.
link: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-head-coach-paul-maurice-resigns/
Quote from: J5V on June 26, 2024, 10:51:52 PMThanks for the link. He says he doesn't have the same passion after the lockout year but I guess he found it again when he signed on with Florida. I find it odd that he shocks the Jets by leaving and then finds himself coaching the best team in the league a few months later. Doesn't pass the sniff test for me.
Maurice chose to leave the Jets because, in his assessment, his message was not reaching the players. He apparently did what his conscience told him to do and what he thought was right for him AND the Jets. Doesn't mean he completely lost his passion for the game and coaching. He clearly has some compassion and interest in the Jets and he didn't have to say what he said following the Panthers' SC victory. Sounds like an honest and up-front guy to me.
Quote from: J5V on June 26, 2024, 10:51:52 PMThanks for the link. He says he doesn't have the same passion after the lockout year but I guess he found it again when he signed on with Florida. I find it odd that he shocks the Jets by leaving and then finds himself coaching the best team in the league a few months later. Doesn't pass the sniff test for me.
Did he shock anyone by stepping down? I'd say no. The Jets got off to a shaky start in the 2021-22 season and there were rumours well before his resignation. It was also more than six months later (https://www.nhl.com/panthers/news/florida-panthers-name-paul-maurice-head-coach-334699176) that he took the job with the Panthers.
I can't say I understand your ire with him.
Oilers, Holland mutually agree to part ways: https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/release-oilers-issue-statement-regarding-ken-holland
Buyout season begins with D Suter: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/dallas-stars-buying-out-final-year-of-d-ryan-suter-s-contract-1.2141182
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 27, 2024, 01:09:38 PMDid he shock anyone by stepping down? I'd say no. The Jets got off to a shaky start in the 2021-22 season and there were rumours well before his resignation. It was also more than six months later (https://www.nhl.com/panthers/news/florida-panthers-name-paul-maurice-head-coach-334699176) that he took the job with the Panthers.
I can't say I understand your ire with him.
When did he leave, December? It left a bad taste in my mouth. I like Rick Bowness but I honestly believe he was a downgrade from Maurice and it set our team back. The jury is out on Arneil and I hope he's at least as good as Maurice was but I just don't know. In a way we are still reeling from what Maurice did and the clock is ticking as our time with this core group of players that we've committed to is running out. Would we have done better with Maurice behind the bench in this recent playoffs? I believe so. Instead we got embarrassed. Just lots of things compounded since Maurice bailed on us. I think he knows that too.
Quote from: J5V on June 27, 2024, 10:45:46 PMWhen did he leave, December? It left a bad taste in my mouth. I like Rick Bowness but I honestly believe he was a downgrade from Maurice and it set our team back. The jury is out on Arneil and I hope he's at least as good as Maurice was but I just don't know. In a way we are still reeling from what Maurice did and the clock is ticking as our time with this core group of players that we've committed to is running out. Would we have done better with Maurice behind the bench in this recent playoffs? I believe so. Instead we got embarrassed. Just lots of things compounded since Maurice bailed on us. I think he knows that too.
You're putting too much on him, IMO. He resigned over 2.5 years ago and that entire coaching staff was gone save Flaherty. Bowness was brought in to reset things in the summer of 2022 to steer the team in a better direction. That happened over the past two seasons despite the poor showings in the playoffs. The team finished last season 4th overall in the entire league and was the best defensive team of the 2023-24 season. That success flies in the face of the claim that the team is "still reeling" because of Maurice's decision to resign. They were objectively better over the last two campaigns under Bowness - even with some bumps in the road along the way.
I would argue the core is just fine when you look at the Dubois trade, Wheeler's buyout, the extensions of Scheifele and Hellebuyck last fall, and now the extension of DeMelo. The moving parts of a roster are affected by far more than just a head coach, anyway. The GM bears arguably just as much responsibility, if not more.
I would also argue there is nothing to suggest the team would've fared better in the post-season had he stayed on. Outside of the 2017-18 run to the WCF, the team had very little post-season success in the ensuing years: bounced in the first round in 2018-19, bounced in the qualifying round in 2019-20, and then a second round sweep in 2020-21.
From what I can tell, the team's lack of playoff success over the past handful of years seems unchanged regardless of who's behind the bench. To me, that speaks to a lack of experience from a players' standpoint. This roster (and the core) has yet to figure out how to find that next gear to become a better playoff performer despite two coaching changes over the last three seasons or so.
Predators re-sign G Saros: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nashville-predators-juuse-saros-agree-to-eight-year-contract-extension-1.2141404
Canucks re-sign D Myers: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vancouver-canucks-d-tyler-myers-agree-on-three-year-9m-deal-1.2141298
Flyers buy out F Atkinson: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/philadelphia-flyers-buy-out-f-cam-atkinson-ahead-of-draft-1.2141628
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 28, 2024, 03:58:13 PMYou're putting too much on him, IMO. He resigned over 2.5 years ago and that entire coaching staff was gone save Flaherty. Bowness was brought in to reset things in the summer of 2022 to steer the team in a better direction. That happened over the past two seasons despite the poor showings in the playoffs. The team finished last season 4th overall in the entire league and was the best defensive team of the 2023-24 season. That success flies in the face of the claim that the team is "still reeling" because of Maurice's decision to resign. They were objectively better over the last two campaigns under Bowness - even with some bumps in the road along the way.
I would argue the core is just fine when you look at the Dubois trade, Wheeler's buyout, the extensions of Scheifele and Hellebuyck last fall, and now the extension of DeMelo. The moving parts of a roster are affected by far more than just a head coach, anyway. The GM bears arguably just as much responsibility, if not more.
I would also argue there is nothing to suggest the team would've fared better in the post-season had he stayed on. Outside of the 2017-18 run to the WCF, the team had very little post-season success in the ensuing years: bounced in the first round in 2018-19, bounced in the qualifying round in 2019-20, and then a second round sweep in 2020-21.
From what I can tell, the team's lack of playoff success over the past handful of years seems unchanged regardless of who's behind the bench. To me, that speaks to a lack of experience from a players' standpoint. This roster (and the core) has yet to figure out how to find that next gear to become a better playoff performer despite two coaching changes over the last three seasons or so.
Before the PLD trade and Scheif/Helle extensions, we were at a crossroads. We could have chosen rebuild, traded everyone for picks and prospects and built this team around upcoming players like Perfetti, McGroarity, etc. Or we could "reload".
The problem I had/have with our chosen path is that we've already passed the peak of this roster. For years we've been on the play off bubble where we either miss the playoffs or lose in the first round. We've seen the best seasons of our top players already. There's not much reason for me to believe that everyone getting annother year older is going to help us move to the next level. In the meantime, we've been blocking the paths of our prospects coming up - we may now be seeing the loss of McGroarity for that reason.
I feel we've given up long term success for short term mediocrity.
WOWEE, Tampa did a salary dump by trading away expensive, $8.5M AAV Dman, Sergachev to Utah
Is that $$ freed up for Stamkos or another Free Agent on Monday ??
Quote from: Jockitch on June 29, 2024, 08:35:08 PMWOWEE, Tampa did a salary dump by trading away expensive, $8.5M AAV Dman, Sergachev to Utah
Is that $$ freed up for Stamkos or another Free Agent on Monday ??
Sergachev suffered a horrific broken leg last year. I wonder if they traded him because they figured he was damaged goods. I can't see Stammer staying there after their insulting offer. He can still bring it and his leadership abilities are off the charts! He'll be a great addition to someone's lineup.
Stamkos to Nashville, 4 years, $32M.
Guentzel to Tampa Bay, 7 years, $63M.
I'm not upset with losing Stamkos. On the decline and eight years puts him at 42, no thanks. Something like 4x6 at best or 4x5 would have been fine but dodging 4x8 is huge.
It's a business and teams make business moves. No sweat. I cheer for the logo on the front, not the name bar on the back. Keeps me level headed.
That said, JBB is gambling his mortgage on letting Stamkos walk if Tampa doesn't do great things this season. Which is what I expected with him coming into this season, just thought Stamkos was going to be a part of it.
@DarrenDreger
Confirming Chandler Stephenson agrees to a 7 year deal with Seattle. $6.25 aav.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRauWQiWUAAxzdM?format=jpg&name=medium)
That's craaaaaaaaaaazy.
Marchessault to Nashville. 5 years, $27.5M.
https://www.nhl.com/stars/news/dallas-stars-and-apmc-pioneer-game-changing-victory-sports-network-070824
QuoteFRISCO, Texas -- The Dallas Stars announced today they have entered into a seven-year agreement with A Parent Media Co. Inc. (APMC) to stream all regional Dallas Stars games free of charge beginning with the 2024-25 season. The games will be broadcast on newly formed VICTORY+, a free direct to consumer streaming service created for fans by APMC with the Dallas Stars.
It'd be nice to see more teams offer this.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 08, 2024, 05:51:23 PMhttps://www.nhl.com/stars/news/dallas-stars-and-apmc-pioneer-game-changing-victory-sports-network-070824
It'd be nice to see more teams offer this.
Isn't television rights a major income stream? How do you fund an $90 mil payroll with free streaming?
Quote from: theaardvark on July 08, 2024, 06:46:40 PMIsn't television rights a major income stream? How do you fund an $90 mil payroll with free streaming?
I can't answer your questions. The only info I have is what's in the article.
Penguins, F Crosby reportedly working on new contract: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/report-sidney-crosby-pittsburgh-penguins-nearing-contract-extension-1.2145904
NHL, New Era announce multi-year agreement: https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-new-era-announce-multiyear-agreement
New Era hats FTW!
Former owner of the Arizona Coyotes "Officially" relinquished his rights this afternoon
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/report-alex-meruelo-officially-relinquishes-rights-to-coyotes/
Good riddance
Blue Jackets GM Waddell trying to trade F Laine: https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2939904
Gonna be hard to move that contract, IMO.
How would a top line of MS55, KC81 and PL29 look?
If Columbus eats some of the contract...
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 04, 2024, 07:46:52 PMStars F and veteran beauty Pavelski retires: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/dallas-stars-joe-pavelski-not-planning-to-play-next-season-1.2129955
Shame he never got his name on the mug. But a HOF career all the same.
Now it's official: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/veteran-f-joe-pavelski-officially-retires-after-18-nhl-seasons-with-san-jose-sharks-dallas-stars-1.2148875
Quote from: theaardvark on July 16, 2024, 03:30:19 PMHow would a top line of MS55, KC81 and PL29 look?
If Columbus eats some of the contract...
Pass. The negatives out weigh the positives.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 16, 2024, 07:09:51 PMPass. The negatives out weigh the positives.
He's been through a lot the last few years and maybe a change of scenery is needed, but I agree. I don't think he's a top 3 forward.
Canucks re-sign G Silovs: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vancouver-canucks-reach-two-year-deal-with-playoff-starter-arturs-silovs-1.2148920
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 16, 2024, 08:43:14 PMHe's been through a lot the last few years and maybe a change of scenery is needed, but I agree. I don't think he's a top 3 forward.
When he's healthy he can still score goals and put up points. He would add a boost to our PP. But, he has been injured a lot, you don't know where his head is at, and he's not good in the D-zone.
Blue Jackets hire Evason as new HC: https://www.nhl.com/bluejackets/news/blue-jackets-name-dean-evason-head-coach
Oilers hire former Blackhawks GM Bowman: https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/release-oilers-announce-bowman-as-gm-evp-of-hockey-ops
Flyers re-sign F Konecny: https://www.nhl.com/flyers/news/flyers-sign-forward-travis-konecny-to-an-eight-year-extension
Blue Jackets F Laine cleared to return from player assistance program: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/patrik-laine-cleared-to-return-from-nhl-nhlpa-player-assistance-program-1.2153956
Necas: 2 year/13M.
Fabar: 8 year/68M.
Canes sign F Staal to retirement contract, franchise retires #12: https://www.nhl.com/news/eric-staal-retires-from-nhl-to-have-number-retired-by-carolina
Quote from: Pigskin on July 30, 2024, 03:55:08 AMNecas: 2 year/13M.
Fabar: 8 year/68M.
Rumour was Necas for McGroarty, Perfetti and a pick...
Thoughts?
Quote from: theaardvark on July 30, 2024, 10:04:39 PMRumour was Necas for McGroarty, Perfetti and a pick...
Thoughts?
Completely debunked. These talks happen before FA, so there are pieces missing from what was reported. Either each of the pieces from our end were talked about separately in different packages, or there was more coming back.
I don't think it's surprising that we would try to upgrade our young guys into a higher end guy, but this "leak" was only a fragment of the discussion.
Chevy would never give up that many young players. Also, we don't have the cap space. Now I could see, NE27 for Necas.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 31, 2024, 04:04:47 PMChevy would never give up that many young players. Also, we don't have the cap space. Now I could see, NE27 for Necas.
Doesn't matter because he would have refused to sign here anyway, could be the reason whatever trade that was being talked about didn't happen. That's what happened when a deal was approved to send him to Buffalo. Necas said no. I doubt he'd refuse Buffalo but come to Winnipeg.
Laine to Montreal for Harris.
Good opportunity for Laine but of course the media will apply quite the pressure, probably beyond anything he's experienced, during the season
Quote from: Pigskin on August 19, 2024, 08:44:04 PMLaine to Montreal for Harris.
Wow... Laine AND a 2nd rounder, for Harris, a former 3rd round pick in 2018 Dman on an expiring $1.4mil contract.
Not a lot of value there, guess Mtl has lots of cap space they can use...
Laine gets a nice opportunity. Pressure will be on him immediately in that market, though.
Yost with some good analysis: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/travis-yost-patrik-laine-trade-worth-short-term-gamble-1.2163615
How Laine feels about the trade: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/patrik-laine-looks-to-return-to-40-50-goal-form-help-montreal-canadiens-win-1.2163903
Quote from: Pigskin on August 19, 2024, 08:44:04 PMLaine to Montreal for Harris.
Darn.
I would have loved a homecoming.
It is absolutely insane how far Laine and PLD's value dropped.
Oilers decline Blues' offer sheets for D Broberg, F Holloway: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/edmonton-oilers-decline-to-match-st-louis-blues-offer-sheets-on-philip-broberg-dylan-holloway-1.2163914
Flyers put F Johnansen on waivers to terminate contract: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/philadelphia-flyers-put-f-ryan-johansen-on-unconditional-waivers-citing-material-breach-1.2164025
Kraken sign F Beniers 7-year contract: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/seattle-kraken-sign-matty-beniers-to-seven-year-deal-1.2164113
$7.14M AAV
AHL players will now have to wear cut resistant socks, wrist sleeves, and neck guard. I like it.
Oilers re-sign F Draisaitl to 8-year deal: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/edmonton-oilers-sign-leon-draisaitl-to-eight-year-112m-extension-1.2168722
$14M AAV
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 03, 2024, 04:36:52 PMOilers re-sign F Draisaitl to 8-year deal: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/edmonton-oilers-sign-leon-draisaitl-to-eight-year-112m-extension-1.2168722
$14M AAV
Wow! That's a lot of moolah!
What will McDavid's next deal be? Cana team with 3/8's of its cap invested in 2 players ice a team at all?
Leafs F Tavares takes CRA to court: https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/john-tavares-is-taking-the-cra-to-court-a-ruling-against-him-could-change-how-nhl-teams-sign-players-1.7023042
Sid, no longer a kid Crosby signs a 2 year extension for $8.7M per.
Quote from: Pigskin on September 16, 2024, 04:36:29 PMSid, no longer a kid Crosby signs a 2 year extension for $8.7M per.
https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/penguins-re-sign-sidney-crosby-to-a-two-year-contract-extension
Probably his last contract.
Bettman shuts down expansion rumours: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/gary-bettman-shuts-down-categorically-wrong-nhl-expansion-rumours-1.2178549
Good. 32 teams are more than enough at this juncture, IMO.
PL92 takes a knee on knee hit didn't look good. Some life time AHL player trying to make a name for himself.
Quote from: Pigskin on September 29, 2024, 03:44:41 PMPL92 takes a knee on knee hit didn't look good. Some life time AHL player trying to make a name for himself.
Saw the photo, and it did not look good. Knees are not supposed to bend sideways, that's going to be MCL tears for sure. Really sucks for PL92...
Gotta feel for Laine. That was a brutal knee-on-knee hit.
UPDATE: Laine expected to miss 2-3 months with knee sprain (https://www.nhl.com/news/montreal-canadiens-patrik-laine-injury-update-left-knee-sprain)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 02, 2024, 01:30:12 PMGotta feel for Laine. That was a brutal knee-on-knee hit.
UPDATE: Laine expected to miss 2-3 months with knee sprain (https://www.nhl.com/news/montreal-canadiens-patrik-laine-injury-update-left-knee-sprain)
Only 2-3 months? I thought, from the looks of it, and how he reacted, that it was surgical. The fact that its only a sprain, with no tears is amazing.
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/montreal-canadiens-patrik-laine-explains-opting-against-surgery-for-injured-knee-1.2183163
QuoteMontreal Canadiens forward Patrik Laine told reporters Thursday that he opted against having surgery on his sprained left knee and explained his line of thinking.
"It was one of those you could go either way. I don't think there's ever any guarantees whether you do surgery or not...they did a good job of explaining the whole process and reassuring the chances are very high, that made me feel better about it," he said, adding he met with multiple doctors before making his decision.
Laine is expected to miss between two and three months after being hurt early in Saturday's 2-1 preseason loss to the Toronto Maple Leafs following a knee-on-knee collision with Leafs forward Cedric Pare.
The 26-year-old feels he got lucky when his diagnosis was revealed earlier this week.
"Ya dodged a bullet with the knee, could have been much worse.... [Paré] texted me afterwards, I give him respect for that."
Laine was dealt to Montreal this past summer with second-round pick in the 2026 draft in exchange for defenceman Jordan Harris.
In 18 games with the Columbus Blue Jackets last season, Laine had six goals and three assists. He has 184 goals and 388 points in 480 career NHL games.
Utah Hockey Club names Clayton Keller as first captain: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/utah-hockey-club-picks-clayton-keller-as-first-captain-1.2183616
Harkins and Capobianco back on waivers.
Senators sign G Ullmark to 4-year contract: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ottawa-senators-ink-linus-ullmark-to-four-year-33-million-extension-1.2186336
$8.25M AAV
Kraken sign G Daccord to 5-year contract: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/kraken-sign-g-joey-daccord-to-five-year-25m-extension-1.2186483
$5M AAV
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 16, 2024, 01:08:20 PMWouldn't surprise me if he gets sent to Wilkes-Barre. He's been invisible (https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/m/mcgroru01.html) so far despite pretty ample opportunity.
Good riddance to that headcase.
Aaaaaand he's been sent down: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/pittsburgh-penguins-assign-rutger-mcgroarty-to-ahl-1.2189966
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Auston Matthews ties Goalie Filip Gustavsson in goals scored tonight...
Stars re-sign G Oettinger to 8-year contract: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/dallas-stars-finalizing-eight-year-extension-with-star-g-jake-oettinger-1.2190291
$8.25M AAV
Sid now with 1602 points.
Blues re-sign F Neighbours to two-year contract: https://www.nhl.com/blues/news/neighbours-signs-2-year-contract-extension
$3.75M AAV
Panthers extend HC Maurice: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/florida-panthers-head-coach-paul-maurice-agree-on-contract-extension-1.2193571
Found a new cap management website: https://capmehonest.com/
Similar layout to CapFriendly (eat turds, Washington Crapitals).
Rangers, F Lafreniere working on seven-year contract: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/new-york-rangers-alexis-lafreniere-working-to-finalize-seven-year-extension-1.2195361
$7.45M AAV
Stammer back in Tampa tonight. :-[
McDavid with a lower body injury tonight. Left the game in the first period and did not return.
McD supposedly out 2-3 weeks
Former NHL F Formenton files $20.5 million lawsuit against Newport Sports, agent Wade Arnott: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/formenton-files-20-5-million-lawsuit-against-newport-sports-agent-wade-arnott-1.2198850
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Kings F Jeannot to have DOPS hearing: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/los-angeles-kings-tanner-jeannot-to-have-hearing-for-hit-on-boeser-1.2201985
Quite the scumbag move.
Reaves gets 5 games for his high hit on Nurse.
Quote from: Pigskin on November 18, 2024, 11:17:58 PMReaves gets 5 games for his high hit on Nurse.
Good. He's such a turd and that was a vile thing he did.
Cruel world for Coaches example; Montgomery gets fired by the Bruins
This guy had something over .714 in a winning % ........ crazy
Laine skating.
Quote from: Pigskin on November 18, 2024, 11:17:58 PMReaves gets 5 games for his high hit on Nurse.
Seriously, what's the guy even doing playing still??
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Trouba has a 15 team no trade clause right now...
McGroarty: 12 games. 1G, 2A, -5. in the AHL.
Building Team Canada for the Four Nations Cup (per Craig Button): https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/building-team-canada-piece-by-piece-for-4-nations-face-off-1.2211244
Forwards:
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Defense & Goaltending:
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Quote from: Pigskin on November 28, 2024, 09:25:34 PMIf MS55 is injured as suggested to on CJOB, he should sit this out.
Looks like he is. One of many omitted:
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Quote from: theaardvark on December 05, 2024, 06:42:14 PMNot sure what you mean, he's on the top line...
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Chicago cut ties today with their HC., Luke Richardson ...... Boooo
Is he the fall guy for Bedard's slow start and the GM's poor construction of team ???
Quote from: theaardvark on December 05, 2024, 06:42:14 PMNot sure what you mean, he's on the top line...
Yikes... read the bolded lettering in the red banner
LOL
My bad...
But thats good, right? Rest.
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This is pretty wild.
TSN article: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/rangers-have-multiple-deals-for-jacob-trouba-need-consent-to-waive-no-trade-clause-1.2214993
The Blackhawks also fired HC Richardson yesterday: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/blackhawks-fire-head-coach-luke-richardson/
Trouba on waivers? I guess any trade has the NYR retaining salary... otherwise they'd just let someone claim him.
How does a no move work with waivers? Guessing he has no choice if someone claims him, if he wants his paycheck.
Thinking paycheck outweighs proximity to spouse here.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 06, 2024, 03:15:03 PMHow does a no move work with waivers?
It doesn't. NMC/NTCs are trade-related provisions meant to give players control on where they don't want to play.
Also worth noting that Trouba isn't skating with the team this morning.
Trouba not placed on waivers: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/rangers-do-not-place-captain-trouba-on-waivers-1.2215721
Trade looming...?
And Trouba's off to Anaheim: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/new-york-rangers-trading-captian-jacob-trouba-to-anaheim-ducks-1.2215721
Quote...defenceman Urho Vaakanainen and a 2025 fourth-round pick head back to the Rangers.
New York will not retain any salary on Trouba, who carries an $8 million cap hit through next season.
Vaakanainen, 25, has one assist in five games this season with the Ducks. He had one goal and 14 points in 68 games last year. Selected 18th overall by the Boston Bruins in the 2017 draft, Vaakanainen is a pending restricted free agent, carrying a cap hit of $1.1 million this season.
Hurricanes place F Lemieux on waivers: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/carolina-hurricanes-place-brendan-lemieux-on-unconditional-waivers-to-terminate-contract-1.2215744
Off to the not likely playoff bound Ducks and the Rangers didn't need to retain a $., incredible
Was this guy just to engrossed in his "brand" to be a leader and a good teammate ?
Quote from: Jockitch on December 07, 2024, 04:39:18 AMOff to the not likely playoff bound Ducks and the Rangers didn't need to retain a $., incredible
Was this guy just to engrossed in his "brand" to be a leader and a good teammate ?
What does being a leader and a good teammate have to do with them trading him to a place he didn't want to go?
Didn't say that he didn't want to go there
Was just wandering, as a separate thought to the above, if their were issues behind closed mgt doors, questioning his off ice team abilities, not his on ice skills.
Certainly understand that the Rangers wanted to shake things up on the financial, Cap structure
In all the Trouba drama, Shesterkin gets a new deal: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/new-york-rangers-agree-to-eight-year-92-million-extension-with-igor-shesterkin-1.2215989
Avs acquire G Blackwood from Sharks: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/colorado-avalanche-acquire-mackenzie-blackwood-from-san-jose-sharks-1.2217646
QuoteThe San Jose Sharks have traded goaltender Mackenzie Blackwood, forward Givani Smith, and a fifth-round draft pick in 2027 to the Colorado Avalanche on Monday.
In exchange, the Sharks will receive goaltender Alexandar Georgiev, forward Nikolai Kovalenko, a second-round draft pick in 2026, and a fifth-round draft pick in 2025.
The Avalanche retain 14 per cent of Georgiev's salary in the deal, according to TSN Hockey Insider Chris Johnston.
Laine 3G in 4 games.
Sabres just keep sinking and likely Ruff may get a lump of coal on the way out the door after Xmas.
Still wouldn't mind seeing Cozens wearing a Jet uni
Meanwhile, the Rangers have become a 500 team despite a very good start to their season
11 straight losses for the Sabres.
That organization is cursed.
Quote from: Jockitch on December 18, 2024, 02:42:23 PMSabres just keep sinking and likely Ruff may get a lump of coal on the way out the door after Xmas.
Still wouldn't mind seeing Cozens wearing a Jet uni
Meanwhile, the Rangers have become a 500 team despite a very good start to their season
Can we afford his $7.1 M cap hit.
#NYR have acquired defenseman Will Borgen, a 2025 Third-Round pick and a 2025 Sixth-Round pick in exchange for Kaapo Kakko.
Habs, Preds swap blue liners: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/montreal-canadiens-acquire-alexandre-carrier-from-nashville-predators-in-defenceman-swap-1.2222510
QuoteThe Montreal Canadiens have acquired defenceman Alexandre Carrier to the from the Nashville Predators in exchange for defenceman Justin Barron.
Leafs call up G Murray: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/maple-leafs-recall-g-matt-murray-from-ahl-1.2223312
His first NHL start since April 2023.
Murray was in goal as Leafs beat Sabres 6-3
Rempe gets an 8 game suspension ...... glad it was at least that
The Rangers are a mess. Drury must be on thin ice.
Chris Kreider is a healthy scratch.. hmm.
Patrik Laine talks too much, gives his former team bulletin board material (https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/3168918)
Zach Werenski fires back at Laine after Jackets beat Habs (https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/blue-jackets-zach-werenski-fires-back-at-patrik-laine-just-unacceptable/)
Big fan of Laine but he needs to learn some humility. And it's not like the Habs are some juggernaut; they're just as lousy as the Jackets.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 24, 2024, 01:00:51 PMPatrik Laine talks too much, gives his former team bulletin board material (https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/3168918)
Zach Werenski fires back at Laine after Jackets beat Habs (https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/blue-jackets-zach-werenski-fires-back-at-patrik-laine-just-unacceptable/)
Big fan of Laine but he needs to learn some humility. And it's not like the Habs are some juggernaut; they're just as lousy as the Jackets.
When I heard the controversy, I was expecting much worse comments than that. God forbid an athlete give an honest answer instead of repeating the same vanilla comments over and over.
The Blue Jackets are a terrible team who have focus on next season by December each year. Why is it so shocking to say it out loud?
Quote from: Jesse on December 24, 2024, 03:24:38 PMWhen I heard the controversy, I was expecting much worse comments than that. God forbid an athlete give an honest answer instead of repeating the same vanilla comments over and over.
The Blue Jackets are a terrible team who have focus on next season by December each year. Why is it so shocking to say it out loud?
Honest answers can still be mindful and respectful towards those who actually do care within the Blue Jackets organization.
Again, when English is not your mother tongue, subtleties are harder to express. Its one thing to translate the thought, its another to massage them to "be respectful"
Laine knows that the BJ's did take care of him through his difficulties, and I am sure he appreciates that. But, brutal truth be told, they are not a great organization that has struggled finding their feet. Which can be frustrating for a player thrust into the spotlight as one of the saviours of the club, only for it to fall on its face.
I think he will do well in the storied franchise that is Montreal, they're making a lot of progress there, and he seems to be blossoming in that environment.
Things can be construed or touch a nerve in life
Tending to give this a wash .......... Laine may be caught in the mind didn't fully translate
Laine is a one trick pony whose ego has grown too big. Won't be long till he's injured again or on one of his world famous slumps again.
Jonathan Toews opens up about his health challenges, healing, and hockey: https://www.gq.com/story/jonathan-toews-ayurveda-nhl-interview
Quite the read.
Tonight's game in LA between the Kings and the Flames has been postponed due to the wildfires.
Quote from: Jockitch on December 23, 2024, 01:09:19 AMRempe gets an 8 game suspension ...... glad it was at least that
Why is this guy in the league?? Total goon with ZERO skill
Senators re-sign F Greig: https://www.nhl.com/senators/news/ottawa-senators-sign-forward-ridly-greig-to-a-four-year-contract-extension
How many game will McDavid get for the cross check to face of Garland. McDavid 6'1" 200, Garland 5'7", 170. And, you have to cross check him in the face. If your that pissed off drop the gloves.
Guessing 2 games for McD
Should be 3-5, he got away with an elbow earlier in the week.
2 games, $134,408.60 fine. Myers probably gets 2 or 3 games also.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 20, 2025, 09:12:54 PM2 games, $134,408.60 fine. Myers probably gets 2 or 3 games also.
$134k? Hefty fine. That's 16 games pay for a player on an ELC...
Quote from: Pigskin on January 20, 2025, 03:07:41 PMHow many game will McDavid get for the cross check to face of Garland. McDavid 6'1" 200, Garland 5'7", 170. And, you have to cross check him in the face. If your that pissed off drop the gloves.
I hear what you're saying, but your franchise player should never have to drop his gloves to address this type of situation--thats why you have third and fourth line players!! Given the opportunity I am sure someone would have taken things up with Harland. But the league got it right, 2 game suspension, whether you're a superstar or not, you can't be cross checking people in the face. I am sure someone will take matters up with Harland next time they play, I know I would.
@NHLPlayerSafety
Edmonton's Connor McDavid has been suspended for three games for cross-checking Vancouver's Conor Garland.
@NHLPlayerSafety
Vancouver's Tyler Myers has been suspended for three games for cross-checking Edmonton's Evan Bouchard.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 20, 2025, 09:21:25 PM$134k? Hefty fine. That's 16 games pay for a player on an ELC...
Actually now that it's 3 games, it's $195,312.51.
Quote from: dd on January 20, 2025, 10:25:55 PMI hear what you're saying, but your franchise player should never have to drop his gloves to address this type of situation--thats why you have third and fourth line players!! Given the opportunity I am sure someone would have taken things up with Harland. But the league got it right, 2 game suspension, whether you're a superstar or not, you can't be cross checking people in the face. I am sure someone will take matters up with Harland next time they play, I know I would.
Just checked and Garland is listed as 5'-10" 165 lbs. averaging 19:28 TOI
Imagine having to send a fourth line plug averaging 7:00 TOI to take care of this 165 lb. menace because McDavid can't do it himself. McDonalds should change his signature dish from the Big Mac-David to the small fries after this debacle!
Oiler's crying there drawing enough penalty calls. Watching McDavid cry is always a highlight.
https://www.nhl.com/islanders/news/islanders-sign-deangelo-for-remainder-of-2024-25-season
This should be fun to watch. LOL
Necas for Rantanen. Sounds like Taylor Hall and Kotkaniemi are also involved in this trade. More info coming.
My oh my, this trade might be termed a block buster
Adjustment time for McKinnon without his man
Really happy for Hall getting moved to the Canes
In the end, Drury and Necas to the Ava's. Rantanen and Hall to the Canes. Chicago gets a 3rd. round pick from the Canes, and will retain 50% of Rantanen's salary which is $9.5M.
PLD80 finding a home and his game in Washington. 11G, 29A, 40 points, plus 19.
Sounds like Ryan O'Reilly could be a trade piece for Nashville. He would solve our 2nd. C problems and only has a cap hit of $4.5M.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 29, 2025, 02:56:29 PMPLD80 finding a home and his game in Washington. 11G, 29A, 40 points, plus 19.
About time he started earning his keep.
Sens F Cousins out 6-8 weeks (knee): https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ottawa-senators-nick-cousins-out-six-to-eight-weeks-with-knee-injury-1.2243543
Habs D Guhle out indefinitely (quad): https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/montreal-canadiens-defenceman-kaiden-guhle-out-indefinitely-after-quad-surgery-1.2243590
Blues, F Saad agree to contract termination: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/st-louis-blues-forward-brandon-saad-clears-waivers-assigned-to-ahl-1.2243583
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2025, 07:33:10 PMSens F Cousins out 6-8 weeks (knee): https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ottawa-senators-nick-cousins-out-six-to-eight-weeks-with-knee-injury-1.2243543
Habs D Guhle out indefinitely (quad): https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/montreal-canadiens-defenceman-kaiden-guhle-out-indefinitely-after-quad-surgery-1.2243590
Guhle has had some tough luck with injuries so far in his career. I guess he will be out 6-8 weeks.
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nhl-salary-cap-expected-to-jump-to-95-5m-next-season-rise-to-113-5m-in-2027-28-1.2244685
QuoteThe National Hockey League salary cap is expected to rise significantly over the next three seasons, according to projections released by the league and the NHLPA on Friday.
The salary is expected to jump by $7.5 million to $95.5 million in 2025-26, with a rise to $104 million the following season and $113.5 million in 2027-28.
Golden Knights sign F Saad: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vegas-golden-knights-sign-f-brandon-saad-after-exit-from-st-louis-blues-1.2244740
Islanders claim D Boqvist: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/new-york-islanders-claim-defenceman-adam-boqvist-off-waivers-from-florida-panthers-1.2244743
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 31, 2025, 07:32:21 PMhttps://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nhl-salary-cap-expected-to-jump-to-95-5m-next-season-rise-to-113-5m-in-2027-28-1.2244685
Wow the league must be doing amazing. Funny, our team is not filling the arena...
7.5 mil xtra just made the ask for a lot of players jump. Sure glad 55, 44 and 37 are locked up long term.
NE27 at $8mil for 8 years not going to happen now, I don't think...
The mention of these potential/expected Cap Space limits are sadly, IMHO, not going to help Winnipeg to hold onto the team
The small arena and population make it difficult to make money The pure fact that the lads are paid in U.S. $$ is a killer. Our organization gets most revenue in Cdn. $$ and with the Dollar still plummeting on the world market, the pockets for our owners just may be waving a white flag soon. YUCK
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 29, 2025, 02:59:46 PMAbout time he started earning his keep.
Agree with your comment and can extrapolate from it that he therefore didn't earn his keep in Columbus, Winnipeg and L.A. despite having small bursts of brilliance. A very frustrating player.
The only other athlete that comes to mind that I can compare him to is Vince Carter, another player that often "mailed it in" despite being very talented and very highly paid. VC never shook his reputation for being a floater and I suspect neither will PLD.
I think the best thing he ever did for Winnipeg was to get us some very good players in the trade with L.A.
I cant help but wonder if he'll eventually revert to being a very expensive, talented, lazy slug again. Time will tell.
Quote from: J5V on January 31, 2025, 11:47:06 PMAgree with your comment and can extrapolate from it that he therefore didn't earn his keep in Columbus, Winnipeg and L.A. despite having small bursts of brilliance. A very frustrating player.
The only other athlete that comes to mind that I can compare him to is Vince Carter, another player that often "mailed it in" despite being very talented and very highly paid. VC never shook his reputation for being a floater and I suspect neither will PLD.
I think the best thing he ever did for Winnipeg was to get us some very good players in the trade with L.A.
I cant help but wonder if he'll eventually revert to being a very expensive, talented, lazy slug again. Time will tell.
He's still a fraction of the player that he was "promised" to be.
Finally Vancouver moves Miller.
There was talk during the whole Vancouver debacle that the Canucks might trade bother Miller and Pettersson. It will remain interesting for the Canucks going forward.
Stars pickup Granlund and Ceci. Loading up for the play-offs.
Rangers did well with the Miller grab and Dallas picked up a couple of gamers
Good luck Canucks
Certainly hope that idiot Hartman, of the Wild, gets a many games suspension, based on his history, for driving Stutzle's face into the ice.
Have we missed out on some 2C candidates, or are we happy they didn't end up here?
Is there still a "Stasny/Monahan" type rental out there?
Hartman is trouble AGAIN.
Quote from: Jockitch on February 02, 2025, 05:39:37 PMCertainly hope that idiot Hartman, of the Wild, gets a many games suspension, based on his history, for driving Stutzle's face into the ice.
Yeah, me too. That was a dirty thing to do to a vulnerable player as there is. Hartman's act of feigned surprise and innocence didn't fool anyone. It was not an accident. I can see him getting at least 6 games. I also hope Stutzle's okay.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 02, 2025, 09:05:40 PMHartman is trouble AGAIN.
He's human garbage. I hope the DOPS throws the book at him. 10 games would be nice.
Yeah, screw that goon Hartman.
The foul on stutzle was sickening, intent to injure total goon vs skilled/upper tier player, should get minimum 10 games. I just don't see why players like this are still in the league, he has limited talent and is here just to fight in a game that has pretty much gotten rid of fighting. Throw the book at him!!!
10 games for Mr. Hartman.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 04, 2025, 04:25:42 AM10 games for Mr. Hartman.
Good. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving pile of trash.
League got it right —- 10 games —- terrific
Islanders F Barzal out indefinitely: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/new-york-islanders-mathew-barzal-out-indefinitely-with-lower-body-injury-1.2245991
Hartman's cheap shots over the last couple of years were against Stutzle, Perfetti, and Ehlers. Always seems to go after the smallest guys on the team. Coward.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 04, 2025, 04:25:42 AM10 games for Mr. Hartman.
Sounds about right. I'm just glad that Stutzle didn't suffer a more disastrous injury. Looks like a few stitches and an Advil is all it's going to amount to. That's the type of dirty play that's going to get someone very seriously injured or worse. There's no place for it in the game.
OMG, I've just woke up from deep hibernation in my cave to discover the "Utah Hockey Club." :o. I think I'm going back to sleep
Sid with an upper body injury in last nights game. No good with Four Nations Cup a few days away.
So, MS55 might get a call... not sure if I am happy about that or not.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 06, 2025, 06:06:39 PMSo, MS55 might get a call... not sure if I am happy about that or not.
Maybe, but it seems unlikely. Pietrangelo withdrew last week and TC hasn't mentioned anything about a replacement. It's a pretty deep team as is, especially down the middle.
Crosby skated solo this morning: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/sidney-crosby-skates-ahead-of-pittsburgh-penguins-practice-thursday-after-day-off-1.2247776
I also wonder if Scheifele would just decline. Probably not but I'd support him in that. Sweeney's a joke.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 06, 2025, 06:46:25 PMMaybe, but it seems unlikely. Pietrangelo withdrew last week and TC hasn't mentioned anything about a replacement. It's a pretty deep team as is, especially down the middle.
Crosby skated solo this morning: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/sidney-crosby-skates-ahead-of-pittsburgh-penguins-practice-thursday-after-day-off-1.2247776
I also wonder if Scheifele would just decline. Probably not but I'd support him in that. Sweeney's a joke.
I agree with all the points you've made here and hope Scheif would swallow his pride, forgive and forget, and accept the invitation. I'd love to see him in Team Canada colors doing his thing on the world stage. Would be a phenomenal experience for him.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 04, 2025, 04:25:42 AM10 games for Mr. Hartman.
exactly what I said he should get!!!
Quote from: J5V on February 07, 2025, 12:47:10 AMI agree with all the points you've made here and hope Scheif would swallow his pride, forgive and forget, and accept the invitation. I'd love to see him in Team Canada colors doing his thing on the world stage. Would be a phenomenal experience for him.
If this was the Olympics, sure.
I personally don't care about this tournament at all.
Quote from: Jesse on February 07, 2025, 10:47:15 AMIf this was the Olympics, sure.
I personally don't care about this tournament at all.
Ditto. I won't be tuning into this pointlessness.
Scheifele will be on the Olympic team next year and that'll be worth a watch.
A month away from TDL Day, here's TSN's trade bait board: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/trade-bait-board-undergoes-upheaval-a-month-away-from-nhl-trade-deadline-1.2248394
Sid, did not play tonight.
Drew Doughty name to team Canada. 35 years old, only played 6 games this season. Don't like it.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 09, 2025, 05:19:50 PMDrew Doughty name to team Canada. 35 years old, only played 6 games this season. Don't like it.
Replacing Pietrangelo I believe. He's a good veteran add but probably depth only.
Crosby skates at Canada's first practice: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/sidney-crosby-on-ice-as-canada-holds-first-practice-ahead-of-4-nations-face-off-1.2250032
Binnington will get the start for Canada.
Quote from: dd on February 07, 2025, 02:33:14 AMexactly what I said he should get!!!
You nailed it.
D Theodore listed week-to-week: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vegas-golden-knights-label-shea-theodore-week-to-week-after-injury-with-canada-1.2252333
A very good Team C victory where the stars, like McD, Reinhart and McK, led the way
Our JMo has been sooooo terrific in my opinion
Researchers confirm Bobby Hull had CTE when he passed away two years ago: https://apnews.com/article/bobby-hull-cte-a5f077978fd2a205cba06c1a9cc6688d
QuoteCHICAGO (AP) — Bobby Hull, the Hall of Fame forward and two-time NHL MVP who helped the Chicago Blackhawks win the Stanley Cup in 1961, had chronic traumatic encephalopathy when he died two years ago, his widow said in a statement released on Wednesday.
Researchers at Boston University's CTE Center found that Hull had stage 2 CTE when he died in 2023. He was 84.
Quote from: Jockitch on February 17, 2025, 10:06:10 PMA very good Team C victory where the stars, like McD, Reinhart and McK, led the way
Our JMo has been sooooo terrific in my opinion
He didn't even play
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 19, 2025, 05:29:00 PMResearchers confirm Bobby Hull had CTE when he passed away two years ago: https://apnews.com/article/bobby-hull-cte-a5f077978fd2a205cba06c1a9cc6688d
No real shocker... guys in his era played without a helmet their whole lives. Who knows how many times he head was rattled
Quote from: bluengold204 on February 21, 2025, 04:12:42 AMHe didn't even play
Check the date on the post. Jockitch was talking about JMo play against Finland.
4 nations injuries: Boston: McAvoy, Florida: Tkachuk, Vegas: Therodore.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 19, 2025, 05:29:00 PMResearchers confirm Bobby Hull had CTE when he passed away two years ago: https://apnews.com/article/bobby-hull-cte-a5f077978fd2a205cba06c1a9cc6688d
Just curious and I'm not sure how old you were then (I was 16) but ...
Where were you on that day when Bennie Hatskin brought Bobby Hull to Winnipeg and the Golden Jet received the largest contract ever paid to a professional hockey player($1.75 million over 10 years, plus a $1 million signing bonus)?
He took on the old boys club of the NHL and made them cough up some $$$ when he signed him million dollar deal. It was a big deal a the time, and the NHL didn't care too much for what he did, but all the players and every player since then did. I remember thinking back then when I watched Gordie Howe and Bobby Hull playing in the WHA--what the hell is wrong with hockey?? How can the 2 greatest players to play the game in their era have to play for a rogue league to make a buck!!!
Quote from: J5V on February 23, 2025, 12:15:08 AMJust curious and I'm not sure how old you were then (I was 16) but ...
Where were you on that day when Bennie Hatskin brought Bobby Hull to Winnipeg and the Golden Jet received the largest contract ever paid to a professional hockey player($1.75 million over 10 years, plus a $1 million signing bonus)?
I wasn't alive back then. I can, however, appreciate the importance of Hull's role in professional hockey and what he did contribute to the game during his time.
Looks like the trading has started.
Should be interesting. I'd imagine there are a lot of very good players that'd like to come to the best team in the league, the Winnipeg Jets, and push us over the top.
Panthers just picked up Seth Jones....they'll be tough to dethrone as champs, and Washington is going to be in the mix as well.
Another 1-2 loss. Ugh! Where have the goals gone?
Elias Petterson needs to traded by Vancouver. Not sure what his downhill slide was caused by but he is trade bait and certainly not helping the Canucks right now.
Jones going to the Panthers is huge
The Avs did well in getting d-man, Lindgren
Rangers, might still be tinkering, are sitting out F. Reilly Smith today
Oilers acquire F Frederic, Jones from Bruins: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/edmonton-oilers-acquiring-f-trent-frederic-from-boston-bruins-1.2264972
QuoteThe Edmonton Oilers have acquired forwards Trent Frederic and Max Jones from the Boston Bruins.
The Oiler sent defenceman Max Wanner, a 2025 second-round pick, and a 2026 fourth-round pick back to Boston in the deal. Wanner, a seventh-round pick of the Oilers in 2021, has one goal and one assist in 22 AHL games with the Bakersfield Condors this season. The second-round pick is the St. Louis Blues selection acquired by Edmonton last summer in the offer sheets for Philip Broberg and Dylan Holloway.
The New Jersey Devils have received Shane LaChance from Edmonton for facilitating the deal, retaining 50 per cent of Frederic's salary. LaChance, who remains at Harvard University, was selected by the Oilers in the sixth round of the 2021 draft.
The Oilers also received unsigned draft choice Petr Hauser in the deal. The Devils selected the 21-year-old forward in the fifth round in 2022.
Canadiens re-sign F Evans: https://www.nhl.com/canadiens/news/four-year-contract-extension-for-jake-evans-2025
QuoteBROSSARD – Montreal Canadiens general manager Kent Hughes announced on Tuesday that the Club has agreed to terms on a four-year contract extension (2025-26 to 2028-29) with forward Jake Evans. The deal will pay him an average annual salary of $2.85 million.
Evans has played 61 games with the Canadiens this season, recording 12 goals and 16 assists. The 28-year-old center ranks second among NHL forwards in shorthanded ice time, averaging 2:52 per game, and holds a share for third in the League with three goals while killing penalties. Evans registered his 100th career NHL point on November 16, 2024, and skated in his 300th NHL game on December 20, 2024, in Detroit.
Since making his debut in 2019-20, Evans has made 329 appearances and produced 120 points (39G, 81A). The Toronto, ON., native has also tallied six game-winning goals, five shorthanded goals and served 113 penalty minutes. In 13 career playoff contests with the Canadiens, Evans has produced three points (1-2--3).
Evans was selected by the Canadiens in the seventh round (207th overall) of the 2014 NHL Draft.
How about Trouba — where is he going
On the Kyler & Bourne show today, near the end, Kypreos said
he is aware that Carolina are now actively taking calls
on Rantanen
NHL fines Devils HC Keefe $25K: https://media.nhl.com/public/news/18757
QuoteNEW YORK (March 5, 2025) – New Jersey Devils head coach Sheldon Keefe has been fined $25,000 for unprofessional conduct directed at the officials that resulted in an unsportsmanlike conduct bench minor as well as a game misconduct at 18:12 of the third period of NHL Game No. 966 on Sunday, March 2, the National Hockey League announced today.
The fine money goes to the NHL Foundation.
Panthers acquire G Vanecek from Sharks: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/san-jose-sharks-trade-g-vitek-vanecek-to-the-florida-panthers-1.2265469
Blue Jackets re-sign F Olivier: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/columbus-blue-jackets-sign-f-mathieu-olivier-to-six-year-18m-extension-1.2265413
6 years, $3M AAV
Bolts add F Bjorkstrand, Gourde in trade with Kraken: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/tampa-bay-lightning-add-oliver-bjorkstrand-yanni-gourde-in-massive-trade-with-seattle-kraken-1.2265693
The Avs sure dodged a bullet in getting rid of Rantanen. Sounds like he wants $13M per season and won't budge. Stars have a $12M offer on the table, which he rejected: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/dallas-stars-offer-of-12m-aav-on-rantanen-extension-well-short-in-trade-talks-with-hurricanes-1.2266728
Delusional.
Sabres re-sign F Zucker: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/buffalo-sabres-sign-forward-jason-zucker-to-two-year-9-5m-contract-extension-1.2266712
2 years, $4.75M AAV
Capitals acquire F Beauvillier from the Penguins: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/washington-capitals-acquire-f-anthony-beauvillier-from-pittsburgh-penguins-1.2266725
So, does the best team in the league stand pat, or go after a 2nd line C / faceoff guy?
Monahan want to come back with the unfortunate passing of Gaudreau? Can we afford that contract?
Is there another faceoff guy now that Nelson is gone?
Chevy doesn't tend to buy in a sellers market, and has no second rounder...
Two things wrong with such a trade proposal: Monahan is on IR (wrist injury) and the Blue Jackets are currently in a WC spot.
Senators acquire F Cozens, D Gilbert from Sabres: https://www.nhl.com/senators/news/senators-acquire-cozens-gilbert-from-sabres
Canes flip F Rantanen to the Stars for F Stankoven, two 1st rounders: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/stars-acquire-mikko-rantanen-from-hurricanes-for-logan-stankoven-two-first-round-picks-1.2266786
Crazy. Canes look a bit silly now, IMO.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 07, 2025, 02:19:55 PMThe Avs sure dodged a bullet in getting rid of Rantanen. Sounds like he wants $13M per season and won't budge. Stars have a $12M offer on the table, which he rejected: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/dallas-stars-offer-of-12m-aav-on-rantanen-extension-well-short-in-trade-talks-with-hurricanes-1.2266728
Delusional.
Good grief! The guy is a proven talent and playoff performer but yes, delusional. Take the $12M, say thank you, and play your heart out. Rejecting a $12M offer is not a good look and if he sulks it'll poison the atmosphere in the Stars dressing room.
It'd be something to see if the Avs and Stars meet in the playoffs.
Rantanen 8 years at $96M. Last 13 games, 6 points. Wasn't playing well in Carolina.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 07, 2025, 09:20:00 PMRantanen 8 years at $96M. Last 13 games, 6 points. Wasn't playing well in Carolina.
Wow! $12M a season for 8 seasons. Good for Rantanen. We'll see how good it is for the Stars. They were already a very good team. They're obviously hoping this puts them over the top.
Avs and Stars have loaded up. The Central is the division to watch now, IMO.
Leafs vs Avs might be worth watching tonight. Leafs goal tending has been suspect of late. Avs may be able to light them up.
Ekbald 20 games suspension for PEDs.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 10, 2025, 09:34:56 PMEkbald 20 games suspension for PEDs.
Ouch! That's a 25% salary hit, 20 games including 2 playoff games. It doesn't sound like it was a trace amount either. He's going to take a hit to his persona as an athlete too. At least he'll be back in time to help his team win a Stanley Cup.