Who would you start?

Started by Blueforlife, October 24, 2026, 05:04:29 AM

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Zach
15 (42.9%)
Dru
20 (57.1%)

Total Members Voted: 35

theaardvark

Condell has a bigger relationship to Dru than Zach or Bryce.

How much that matters with MOS as coach, who knows.

It would be nice to have QB's get snaps based on merit.

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Tecno

Quote from: TBURGESS on October 29, 2026, 01:39:54 PMNeither are great QB's, but only one of them can take a couple of hits and get back up.

Who??  Neither can take a hit.  Little bumps & booboos took Dru out of tons of games in OTT.  Here's the 3 "glassiest" QBs in the league: Zach, Dru, Trevor.

Have you seen Dru compared to Zach in terms of stature and beef?  Dru's a scrawn.  Zach at least tried to beef up 2 seasons ago, and it's mostly still there.
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Tecno

Quote from: theaardvark on October 29, 2026, 02:23:37 PMThe question becomes, does Zach dress?  If he does, where on the DC is he?  Is Perkins SY/#2, and Zach an only in emergency #3?

Elgs will be totally useless.  So no matter what's going on with Zach you dress him.  Plus, you need to send a signal to TOR that they need to waste time planning for Zach.

Zacn & Dru are different beasts in terms of where they like to throw.  Need to mess with TOR's plans.

If it was me, I'd even go so far as to just plain lie as to who is listed as #1.
Never go full Johnston!

Waffler

Quote from: Tecno on October 29, 2026, 08:43:47 PMElgs will be totally useless.  So no matter what's going on with Zach you dress him.  Plus, you need to send a signal to TOR that they need to waste time planning for Zach.

Zacn & Dru are different beasts in terms of where they like to throw.  Need to mess with TOR's plans.

If it was me, I'd even go so far as to just plain lie as to who is listed as #1.
I feel if Elgersma comes out throwing bombs he could put some points up. Yes, he's not ready to start but coming off the bench the arm alone has to make the Argos respect him. Run Brady, throw deep, repeat.

You CANNOT dress Zach if he cannot play. We saw that movie already in a Grey Cup. Beyond ugly.
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bomb squad

Start Dru, but I'm not mad if they start Zack. Just use Both of them if them if there's any question on the starters performance. Don't wait too long!

dd

I know guys are crapping on him, but I'll take ZC8 experience anyday over pick 6 Brown. Brown has proven over and over he can't read a defense and constantly throws into coverage for picks...didn't do that vs the no names as they were useless. Stick with Collaros, he has taken us on a 5 year journey never to be repeated in these parts. I have zero faith  in Brown and had a good laugh at the suggestion of Elgersma, oh boy would that be disasterous. That guy can't even handle a snap from centre without fumbling it and is soooooo over his head it isn't even funny.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Waffler on October 29, 2026, 09:04:50 PMI feel if Elgersma comes out throwing bombs he could put some points up. Yes, he's not ready to start but coming off the bench the arm alone has to make the Argos respect him. Run Brady, throw deep, repeat.

You CANNOT dress Zach if he cannot play. We saw that movie already in a Grey Cup. Beyond ugly.

If you see Elgersma behind Center on Saturday, we'll know they're already in next year land.

dd

Quote from: Waffler on October 29, 2026, 09:04:50 PMI feel if Elgersma comes out throwing bombs he could put some points up. Yes, he's not ready to start but coming off the bench the arm alone has to make the Argos respect him. Run Brady, throw deep, repeat.

You CANNOT dress Zach if he cannot play. We saw that movie already in a Grey Cup. Beyond ugly.
Quantify this theory, how many 'bombs' has Elgersma completed....ever...in a football game. From what I've seen the guy is brutal. What has he ever accomplished on the football field. If we're in desparate need for a Qb, put in Perkins who is a former UFL MVP, Elgersma couldn't get his paperwork in order to get a crack at the UFL or at least that's line we've been told. I think he simply wasn't worth the effort so nobody was in a hurry to get his paperwork in order.

Waffler

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Quote from: dd on October 29, 2026, 10:10:01 PMQuantify this theory, how many 'bombs' has Elgersma completed....ever...in a football game. From what I've seen the guy is brutal. What has he ever accomplished on the football field. If we're in desparate need for a Qb, put in Perkins who is a former UFL MVP, Elgersma couldn't get his paperwork in order to get a crack at the UFL or at least that's line we've been told. I think he simply wasn't worth the effort so nobody was in a hurry to get his paperwork in order.
Not saying I WANT to see him but if we had to he has the strongest arm on the Bombers by far. And we have the receivers to throw to.

What is Perkins? A Nealon Green? He's on the team because he can run the short yardage very well. If he couldn't do that then he would not be on the team at all.

Anyway, the point appears to moot as Zach got in a limited practice. He's bound to be on the roster.
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tlf

I feel they are trying to trick the Argos and ZC will start.  It's all out in the press and everyone thinks Dru will start..and then we trot out ZC and the Argos are prepared for Dru..  Having said that, if we do that keep ZC on a short leash to not hurt him further and in case he has an iffy game..and have Dru come in if needed.  Dru also needs the reps more than Zach so it's good he's getting them.

Blue In BC

Quote from: tlf on October 29, 2026, 11:13:33 PMI feel they are trying to trick the Argos and ZC will start.  It's all out in the press and everyone thinks Dru will start..and then we trot out ZC and the Argos are prepared for Dru..  Having said that, if we do that keep ZC on a short leash to not hurt him further and in case he has an iffy game..and have Dru come in if needed.  Dru also needs the reps more than Zach so it's good he's getting them.

They've played Collaros before and I don't think anybody is fooled by anything at this point of the season.
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tlf

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 29, 2026, 11:37:57 PMThey've played Collaros before and I don't think anybody is fooled by anything at this point of the season.

You may have missed my point.  If they prepare defensively all week for Dru from the media reports, and we trot out Zach, they will be taken by surprise.  It may not happen, but it may since ZC is practing a bit now. That's what I'm saying. Time will tell.

Pete

#42
its not a bad plan to force Argos to have to prepare for two qbs, even ifs it not a big deal. Always look for any advantage.
  Now if we trotted out a running qb such as Perkins that would really confuse em.
But seriously, Zac's playoff performance against Toronto hasn't been great, much like last game he gets happy feet and seems to lack the confidence he normally has

Jesse

I'm not sure there is a different plan for either QB. Shutting down Brady and forcing either QB to do something usually works for teams.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: tlf on October 29, 2026, 11:47:53 PMYou may have missed my point.  If they prepare defensively all week for Dru from the media reports, and we trot out Zach, they will be taken by surprise.  It may not happen, but it may since ZC is practing a bit now. That's what I'm saying. Time will tell.

I didn't miss it, I just don't believe it has significant merit. The game plan will be the same. What varies is execution.

Don't you think we'll have given some preparation in case Arbuckle comes into the game for a series or due to injury?
No more excuses