Official Game Day Thread - Winnipeg @ Edmonton, August 21, 2026

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Tecno

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on Today at 04:38:26 AMCollaros is probably the 7th or 8th best starter in the league this year. That is bad by almost all definitions in a 9 team league.

Except Zach completely lit it up all 1st H.  He was looking like the league-best QB for nearly a half against what's supposed to be the league's best D!

Something changed.  Half of it was MOS & OC turtling way too soon instead of sticking with what was working (which was throwing on every first down).  The other half, I dunno, maybe Zach getting banged up a lot was leaving his internal gyroscope off-kilter.  That would explain the overthrows, etc.

So how can Zach be soooo good one half and total butt the other?  And does that make him butt?  Nah, it makes him a QB who for whatever reason lost all his mojo at halftime.
Never go full Johnston!

Blueforlife

Quote from: blueandgoldguy on Today at 04:56:53 AMIn a 9-team small league, below-average and bad are interchangeable.
Below average doesn't not equal bad

Bad fair below average good great elite

Zach is not a bad QB, he is a hall of famer

blueandgoldguy

Quote from: Blueforlife on Today at 04:53:54 AM1st was bad then you agreed below average which is it lol

Changing the narrative and goal posts

He is below average not bad

Same thing in a 9-team league

Blueforlife

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 04:58:53 AMExcept Zach completely lit it up all 1st H.  He was looking like the league-best QB for nearly a half against what's supposed to be the league's best D!

Something changed.  Half of it was MOS & OC turtling way too soon instead of sticking with what was working (which was throwing on every first down).  The other half, I dunno, maybe Zach getting banged up a lot was leaving his internal gyroscope off-kilter.  That would explain the overthrows, etc.

So how can Zach be soooo good one half and total butt the other?  And does that make him butt?  Nah, it makes him a QB who for whatever reason lost all his mojo at halftime.
Yes half knicked half game plan 2nd half and also credit to Edm

Agree all

Best to worst in span of 3 hours

Mojo deflated

Jesse

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 04:58:53 AMExcept Zach completely lit it up all 1st H.  He was looking like the league-best QB for nearly a half against what's supposed to be the league's best D!

Something changed.  Half of it was MOS & OC turtling way too soon instead of sticking with what was working (which was throwing on every first down).  The other half, I dunno, maybe Zach getting banged up a lot was leaving his internal gyroscope off-kilter.  That would explain the overthrows, etc.

So how can Zach be soooo good one half and total butt the other?  And does that make him butt?  Nah, it makes him a QB who for whatever reason lost all his mojo at halftime.

Which half was the outlier in his yearly performance?
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Blueforlife

Quote from: blueandgoldguy on Today at 04:59:23 AMSame thing in a 9-team league
Nah changing narrative to try to dig yourself out of a hole

You said bad

Then agrees below average

Then went back to bad

Then said same thing

Not buying it

tlf

Nichols being hurt was the reason Vaval was in.

I hope he's back soon.

Blueforlife


blueandgoldguy

Quote from: Blueforlife on Today at 04:58:54 AMBelow average doesn't not equal bad

Bad fair below average good great elite

Zach is not a bad QB, he is a hall of famer

Nope, sorry.  9 team league bad and below average are the same.  If we are talking about the NFL there is a little more room for nuance. 

Doesn't matter if he is a hall of famer or not.  He is one of the worst in the league RIGHT NOW!  Peyton Manning was one of the best of all time and in his last year and half he was a below average to bad QB.

Keep riding that Zach is not bad train though...

Blueforlife

Quote from: tlf on Today at 05:01:47 AMNichols being hurt was the reason Vaval was in.

I hope he's back soon.
Oh no, thanks for letting us know

That hurt the D

Vaval was ok

Tecno

Quote from: Jesse on Today at 04:35:47 AMDefence nearly pitched a shut out in the first half. Only allowed 22 points. This was probably their best game of the season. OL held up really well for 90% of the game.

We pitched a shutout because EDM, for whatever reason, was not doing d&d.  We are a D scheme built entirely upon stopping the "normal" CFL scheme.  Everyone should know this by now (including OC's).  And we have no answer for the d&d: so as soon as EDM woke up and went d&d we were doomed if our O couldn't keep up.

I was really hoping that the off-season and reg-season so far would have new d&d ideas by Younger/Hall.  I desperately wanted in this game to see that they had ideas to beat max d&d SSK.  Ya, so clearly there is no plan, there are no off-season ideas, there is just nothing.  When a team goes d&d we are doomed on most drives.

And if our D ever needs to hold a d&d O to under 40Y to win the game, we will lose that game.  Every time.  To be honest, I'm very disappointed and very frustrated that no one at WFC is trying to figure this out.
Never go full Johnston!

Blueforlife

Quote from: blueandgoldguy on Today at 05:02:14 AMNope, sorry.  9 team league bad and below average are the same.  If we are talking about the NFL there is a little more room for nuance. 

Doesn't matter if he is a hall of famer or not.  He is one of the worst in the league RIGHT NOW!  Peyton Manning was one of the best of all time and in his last year and half he was a below average to bad QB.

Keep riding that Zach is not bad train though...
You changed the narrative to try to win the argument and it doesn't pass the sniff test

Bad does not equate to below average in any situation lol

Blueforlife

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 05:03:37 AMWe pitched a shutout because EDM, for whatever reason, was not doing d&d.  We are a D scheme built entirely upon stopping the "normal" CFL scheme.  Everyone should know this by now (including OC's).  And we have no answer for the d&d: so as soon as EDM woke up and went d&d we were doomed if our O couldn't keep up.

I was really hoping that the off-season and reg-season so far would have new d&d ideas by Younger/Hall.  I desperately wanted in this game to see that they had ideas to beat max d&d SSK.  Ya, so clearly there is no plan, there are no off-season ideas, there is just nothing.  When a team goes d&d we are doomed on most drives.

And if our D ever needs to hold a d&d O to under 40Y to win the game, we will lose that game.  Every time.  To be honest, I'm very disappointed and very frustrated that no one at WFC is trying to figure this out.
Zach is not a D&D QB and I'm happy we don't have that offense

I want a gun slinger bombs and Brady

dd

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 04:55:56 AMBut it wasn't the refs.  It was the refs AND COMMAND.  Command studied it and applied what they felt was their normal precedent-following decision.

If you throw that flag again, you will lose it again.  And I'm pretty sure MOS has learned his lesson now.

If I knew we were going to lose, then Mafia braintrust should have known.  And I knew it before MOS threw the challenge.  If I can know it, then WFC should know it.

That was a blatant FTP call that went uncalled, was challenged and we lost the challenge but dublanko (who is definitely a blanko!!) definitely not Zach late, it was rough and totally unnecessary and he could have pulled up but didnt, you hit him with a flag every time .shame on command centre

Jesse

Quote from: Blueforlife on Today at 05:03:46 AMYou changed the narrative to try to win the argument and it doesn't pass the sniff test

Bad does not equate to below average in any situation lol

He's been saying the same thing the whole time. Zach is playing badly by any metric.

And honestly, what does below average mean? If average is QBs 4-6, you're arguing that Zach is a bottom 3 QB and somehow saying that means he's not playing badly?
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