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Blueforlife

Mike O'Shea: Willie Jefferson still 'most dominant defensive lineman' in CFL - 3DownNation https://share.google/a89k5iR1EQPlEZsps

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Quote from: Blueforlife on July 13, 2026, 10:04:13 PMMike O'Shea: Willie Jefferson still 'most dominant defensive lineman' in CFL - 3DownNation https://share.google/a89k5iR1EQPlEZsps

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I'm a Willie fan but I'm also sure a few other head coaches in the league would same exactly the same thing about their DLinemen.
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Blueforlife

Quote from: ModAdmin on July 14, 2026, 01:08:26 AMI'm a Willie fan but I'm also sure a few other head coaches in the league would same exactly the same thing about their DLinemen.
Willie's don't grow on trees, one of best ever

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Quote from: Blueforlife on July 14, 2026, 01:26:18 AMWillie's don't grow on trees, one of best ever

Never said he wasn't.
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." - John Wooden

Blueforlife

Quote from: ModAdmin on July 14, 2026, 04:22:04 AMNever said he wasn't.
I know but suggesting that other coaches would say their DL are the best isn't as relevant as they are mostly not referring to best players all time

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Quote from: Blueforlife on July 14, 2026, 04:23:33 AMI know but suggesting that other coaches would say their DL are the best isn't as relevant as they are mostly not referring to best players all time

Except you have provided no facts to back that statement up. Willie has proven to be ONE of the best.  When you start comparing other DLinemen from other teams, different eras, different defensive strategies you get into the weeds. 

As opined above, suffice it to say Willie will go down as ONE of the best in history.
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." - John Wooden

Tecno

Quote from: BomberFan73 on July 13, 2026, 05:11:28 PMI think you're exaggerating on each side. There were times that Kelly looked good, had a big hit at safety in the past. I know he took a beating on here lastyear, but that is the nature of this forum it seems, everyone likes to pile on. He has improved and that is good to see. With Ball back soon it will be interesting to see who gets delegated.

I really don't recall any good thing Kelly has done on D, not before the last 2-3 games.  If you can remember some 2025 thing, let me know if you can remember the opponent/venue, I'll see if I can find it.

Normally I'd agree with you in general (about extreme positions), but in Kelly's case he really was that bad.  And now, suddenly, he's adding a ton of value relative to his time on the field.  Not a ton in absolute terms, but divided by the number of snaps he sees.
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Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 13, 2026, 01:35:16 PMI don't notice the new LB on the field, so that's hardly a tickety boo result. He didn't record a stat. It does appear that Jenkins has fallen out of favour but he'd of had some reps if he played.

Fletcher has been a great add.  Reese also starting to make trouble.  And Gat and Korny getting in there.

I frankly never noticed Jenkins much, even since last season.

Ceresna isn't getting much accomplished except tying up 2 OL every snap.  But that's why these junior guys are getting through.  So that's almost as good.  Lawson is pretty quiet, and doesn't draw the double-team like Ceresna.  I'd like to see him get more push.

All in all one would have to conclude our DL is like 2X (or more) effective than 2025.  Having both Willie & Ceresna really puts O's in a bind.
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theaardvark

Vaughters is have a good season in SSK, but I'm much happier we have Ceresna.  Willie seems rejuvenated, and the rest of the line is overachieving.

All this under the coaching of first year Dline coach Jake.  We know that Hall has his fingers in there, but this is Jake's job and he's doing pretty darned well.  Knockdowns and tackles for loss, we lead.  Sacks, 1 behind SSK.  Good job Jake.
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