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[Blueforlife]

Kramdi & Griffin were going on & off.  Griffin for sure.  But I feel Kramdi too.  Would have to re-study to confirm... might try to do that.  But it stands to reason since we do have so many "rotational" guys that get regular sets, AND it was crazy hot out there at the start, so spelling the front 7 (that Kramdi was part of sometimes) would make sense.

However, we saw a lot more Kyrie than usual, and Jones is almost an every-down guy.  And lots of Kelly and Smith.  Something has to give for all these other players to be on, too.

Yup rotate the D, some angry we added a LB, worked out just tickety boo.  Everybody plays, everybody is fresh.  Poetry in motion.  Smith looked good.

Please study and get back to us, a techno deep dive would be welcome 🙏

Kelly continues his development and I did not see that coming! Just awesome.  Mafia knows things we don't.  Sorry we don't have enough Kelly crow as the entire forum would be eating heavy starting the previous week.

[Tecno]

Kelly continues his development and I did not see that coming! Just awesome.  Mafia knows things we don't.  Sorry we don't have enough Kelly crow as the entire forum would be eating heavy starting the previous week.

I don't understand why Kelly went from huge liability zero one week to and effective piece on the field the next.  It's like someone flipped a switch.  Not something that usually happens.

4 games ago (and every game before that) he was garbage.  Then 3 games ago he starts making plays, and he's making plays every game since.

It's not something you usually see.  Maybe we changed the way we allow him to play?  More leash?  Or maybe Ball being close to returning lit a fire under his butt?  Hard to know.

[Blueforlife]

I don't understand why Kelly went from huge liability zero one week to and effective piece on the field the next.  It's like someone flipped a switch.  Not something that usually happens.

4 games ago (and every game before that) he was garbage.  Then 3 games ago he starts making plays, and he's making plays every game since.

It's not something you usually see.  Maybe we changed the way we allow him to play?  More leash?  Or maybe Ball being close to returning lit a fire under his butt?  Hard to know.

You are right, very rare to go from zero to hero.  Maybe he switched his Gatorade colour lol.  Forgot about Ball.  He will help.

[Blue In BC]

Yup rotate the D, some angry we added a LB, worked out just tickety boo.  Everybody plays, everybody is fresh.  Poetry in motion.  Smith looked good.

Please study and get back to us, a techno deep dive would be welcome 🙏

Kelly continues his development and I did not see that coming! Just awesome.  Mafia knows things we don't.  Sorry we don't have enough Kelly crow as the entire forum would be eating heavy starting the previous week.

I don't notice the new LB on the field, so that's hardly a tickety boo result. He didn't record a stat. It does appear that Jenkins has fallen out of favour but he'd of had some reps if he played.  Hazen might have a future but he was an odd choice to add to the AR.

Singer, Fredrickson, Texada would have had more opportunity to see reps if there was an in game injury.

[Blueforlife]

I don't notice the new LB on the field, so that's hardly a tickety boo result. He didn't record a stat. It does appear that Jenkins has fallen out of favour but he'd of had some reps if he played.  Hazen might have a future but he was an odd choice to add to the AR.

Singer, Fredrickson, Texada would have had more opportunity to see reps if there was an in game injury.

I didn't see a receiver go down and the point is with the amount of rotation on D, particularly the LBs, having depth there is critical.  None of those guys would have seen the field imo.

Don't know if you have a future till you get on the AR.  Obviously the mafia wanted to give him a look and its not odd we added him seeing as we always have a wealth of LBs.

Yes Jenkins stock has fallen.

Anyone see Hazen on teams?

The tickety boo reference is based on how well our rotation works and how we didn't need a receiver due to injury as I expected.  In the heat extra bodies on D was the right choice imo.  Next week we shall see.  A lot of talent on this team, they will all get a chance eventually.

[Blue In BC]

I didn't see a receiver go down and the point is with the amount of rotation on D, particularly the LBs, having depth there is critical.  None of those guys would have seen the field imo.

Don't know if you have a future till you get on the AR.  Obviously the mafia wanted to give him a look and its not odd we added him seeing as we always have a wealth of LBs.

Yes Jenkins stock has fallen.

Anyone see Hazen on teams?

The tickety boo reference is based on how well our rotation works and how we didn't need a receiver due to injury as I expected.  In the heat extra bodies on D was the right choice imo.  Next week we shall see.  A lot of talent on this team, they will all get a chance eventually.

We have lots of depth at LB. OTOH we have very little at receiver if O. Wilson or Smith go down even for a series, it's a drop off.

Hazen was never going to be next or next next if we had an injury at LB. If  one of the import receivers went down then Singer or Fredrickson would have been next up. He might have even gotten reps to keep everyone fresh and to use different play selections for him.

Obviously we didn't have an injury at receiver but it's a point about a practical depth choice. In that sense Hazen was not a good choice.

The same applies at DB if any of our 4 imports goes down, then Kelly is a full time starter in game and Hallett or Stuart is on the field in the dual safety look.

It's not entirely true that a player can't show very well in TC / practice and be determined to have a better than average chance to excel.

If Hazen was added for some reason to at least see time on ST's then maybe it made sense. That said, we had no new injuries on our ST players and they are playing very well. I didn't see him on the field. Maybe someone can suggest he was on ST's?

So IMO Hazen was not the best selection available. He wouldn't even have been on my radar. If management wanted to see him on the AR then he should have been given some reps. Otherwise, what did we gain if he sat on the bench the entire game?

[Blueforlife]

He develops and waits his turn.  There is no rush.

[Blue In BC]

He develops and waits his turn.  There is no rush.

That's not the issue. That's what the PR is for until there is an injury necessary to activate another player. His college experience is impressive but that's true for most rookies in TC. He was a late add after TC and may have been on our neg list. I didn't see a transaction to the neg list putting on or taking him off to sign him?

I'll be surprised if he's still on the AR for our next game but that was true for this game as well.

Maybe he wanted to be released if he wasn't added to the AR.

Wallace was nicked the prior game so even keeping Mazzcca on the AR for depth at LG wouldn't have been the worst idea.  I don't know how serious Wallace's shoulder issue was but I doubt he was 100%.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

That's not the issue. That's what the PR is for until there is an injury necessary to activate another player. His college experience is impressive but that's true for most rookies in TC. He was a late add after TC and may have been on our neg list. I didn't see a transaction to the neg list putting on or taking him off to sign him?

I'll be surprised if he's still on the AR for our next game but that was true for this game as well.

Maybe he wanted to be released if he wasn't added to the AR.

Wallace was nicked the prior game so even keeping Mazzucca on the AR for depth at LG wouldn't have been the worst idea.  I don't know how serious Wallace's shoulder issue was but I doubt he was 100%.

Probably doesn't mean much but Wallace was one of the players who came out and spent a long time with fans after the game Friday at the south end zone. He was moving around and signing things just fine. Who knows with a shoulder injury but he looked like a guy who was pretty comfortable.

[Blue In BC]

Probably doesn't mean much but Wallace was one of the players who came out and spent a long time with fans after the game Friday at the south end zone. He was moving around and signing things just fine. Who knows with a shoulder injury but he looked like a guy who was pretty comfortable.

That's good to know but there must have been some issue and having the starter from the previous week in reserve wasn't a bad idea. At least compared to a rookie in his 1st game that probably didn't see the field.  Wallace may have just had some bruising / stiffness rather than structural damage.

Setting the roster is risk management. Where is the depth the greatest concern and I mentioned several other choices. The fact we didn't have a receiver or DB go down for at least a series, is partially good luck. I don't think anyone would have been happy with the alternatives if O.Wilson had gone down early for example.

We have no DI on offence which is a concern. It's one thing to have another DI on defence if he's seeing reps ( Jenkins ), but wasn't Hazen a surprise?

We've seen teams lose 2 receivers or DB's in one game.

I'm going to be curious to see if Hazen is still on the AR next week.

[BomberFan73]

I don't understand why Kelly went from huge liability zero one week to and effective piece on the field the next.  It's like someone flipped a switch.  Not something that usually happens.

4 games ago (and every game before that) he was garbage.  Then 3 games ago he starts making plays, and he's making plays every game since.

It's not something you usually see.  Maybe we changed the way we allow him to play?  More leash?  Or maybe Ball being close to returning lit a fire under his butt?  Hard to know.


I think you're exaggerating on each side. There were times that Kelly looked good, had a big hit at safety in the past. I know he took a beating on here lastyear, but that is the nature of this forum it seems, everyone likes to pile on. He has improved and that is good to see. With Ball back soon it will be interesting to see who gets delegated.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

At least compared to a rookie in his 1st game that probably didn't see the field. Wallace may have just had some bruising / stiffness rather than structural damage.

Setting the roster is risk management. Where is the depth the greatest concern and I mentioned several other choices. The fact we didn't have a receiver or DB go down for at least a series, is partially good luck. I don't think anyone would have been happy with the alternatives if O.Wilson had gone down early for example.

We have no DI on offence which is a concern. It's one thing to have another DI on defence if he's seeing reps ( Jenkins ), but wasn't Hazen a surprise?

 

Hazen came on to replace Boulaine who was sent to the PR, that's a direct sub of an Import for a Natl if that matters.  We don't know the reasoning but he most likely played ST as it would be unlikely they'd dress an unused ST player, no way he was going to see any action at LB after such a short time with the team.

[Blue In BC]

Hazen came on to replace Boulaine who was sent to the PR, that's a direct sub of an Import for a Natl if that matters.  We don't know the reasoning but he most likely played ST as it would be unlikely they'd dress an unused ST player, no way he was going to see any action at LB after such a short time with the team.

I don't know that would have mattered. Boulaine was a rookie as well and only played 3 games but was with the team in TC.  He was the 24th pick in the 2026 draft and last played against the TiCats. He had 1 ST stat but I don't think he saw a lot of work on teams.

He went back to the PR when Wallace was added back and Mazzccua also went to the PR.

IDK but switching a rookie import for a rookie draft choice seems odds as a ratio balancing. If they wanted an ST player they could have switched in Oyelola who is an ST LB type with CFL experience.

Cadwallader ans Ayers each had 2 ST's. Stuart had another and Holm had the other one of our 6 ST's.

We had no injuries to our ST " starters " so again, if Hazen was going to be used on ST's, who did he replace and did he see the field?

So if we didn't need to really replace an ST player was this the best choice for our roster overall?

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I don't know that would have mattered. Boulaine was a rookie as well and only played 3 games but was with the team in TC.  He was the 24th pick in the 2026 draft and last played against the TiCats. He had 1 ST stat but I don't think he saw a lot of work on teams.

He went back to the PR when Wallace was added back and Mazzccua also went to the PR.

IDK but switching a rookie import for a rookie draft choice seems odds as a ratio balancing. If they wanted an ST player they could have switched in Oyelola who is an ST LB type with CFL experience.

Cadwallader ans Ayers each had 2 ST's. Stuart had another and Holm had the other one of our 6 ST's.

We had no injuries to our ST " starters " so again, if Hazen was going to be used on ST's, who did he replace and did he see the field?

So if we didn't need to really replace an ST player was this the best choice for our roster overall?

Bombers also use these manoeuvres to boost a players income if they have financial difficulty or require a financial incentive to stay with the program, even if they don't play they get a salary bump being on the gameday roster.  I imagine Walters spends a great deal of his time figuring out how to keep players that are not playing happy.

[Blue In BC]

Bombers also use these manoeuvres to boost a players income if they have financial difficulty or require a financial incentive to stay with the program, even if they don't play they get a salary bump being on the gameday roster.  I imagine Walters spends a great deal of his time figuring out how to keep players that are not playing happy.

In that case the RR was available. Use the AR to field the best roster not boost a players income. I'm not sure if you can add a player to the RR directly from the PR. Regardless I gave examples where our depth was limited and could have used a DI on offence.