Official Game Day Thread - Toronto@Winnipeg, July 10, 2026

[Pete]

The linebacker we added was Hazen, did he see a snap? Surprised we didn't add a receiver instead

[Pigskin]

Judge was replaced by Owen Goss. I was surprised at how well he played. There was one play in particular where he saw Brady leaking out of the backfield on a screen. He  quickly closed on him even before he caught the ball, beat a block from Wallace (who has no foot speed whatsoever in the open field), and tackled him for a loss. Occurs at 10:48 3rd quarter.

Yes, Goss had 4 DTs and a Sack. I also agree, Wallace does not run well.

[Tecno]

The linebacker we added was Hazen, did he see a snap? Surprised we didn't add a receiver instead

In my rewatch/study I haven't seen Hazen yet.  Maybe he was on ST.

[Tecno]

Was that the same play Vaval was signalling furiously?  Looks like he's the one that caught it.

No, I checked, Vaval was not freaking out on this one.  It was an earlier kick or punt.  And I'm not sure what his beef was.  Maybe signally a side-shift after seeing the kicker line up?

[Tecno]

Whatever it was, it worked! They mentioned on OB they may have had too many men, but it still ended up icing the kicker as the refs didn't catch it.

Refs won't flag a TMM until after the snap.  They'll sit there waiting, knowing you're over, and let you shoot yourself in the foot.  99.9% they noticed it and were going to flag it.  Not sure I've ever seen them miss it.  One official (if not 2) has the job of counting every snap.

What I'm glad to see if whoever WFC tasks with counting every snap made sure we knew and fixed it before the snap.  So while the set deployment failed, the failsafe didn't.

If TMM is 10Y (I think it is?) then that would have given TOR a free 1st down?  That would be disaster.

[Pigskin]

In my rewatch/study I haven't seen Hazen yet.  Maybe he was on ST.

The only snaps Hazen didn't play on teams was FGs.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

The only snaps Hazen didn't play on teams was FGs.

Is there a database available that keeps track of the number of snaps each player takes?  That info.  would be very useful.

[Tecno]

Interestingly, when Castillo misses his final FG, it seems to be because of a sudden crosswind blowing to the left. You can hear it on the spidercam, and see the flag go left right after the ball leaves the tee.

Yes, it was somewhat left already, but it would have gone in.

[Jesse]

Is there a database available that keeps track of the number of snaps each player takes?  That info.  would be very useful.

No, but Derek Taylor usually tracks things things and will give you the answer if you ask him on twitter.

[theaardvark]

So MOS gets an "accidental icing the kicker" award.  I'll take it.

As to Wallace having no speed in open field, if you are looking at a 330lb+ olineman and quibbling about his 40 times, I think the point is missed.

[dd]

Refs won't flag a TMM until after the snap.  They'll sit there waiting, knowing you're over, and let you shoot yourself in the foot.  99.9% they noticed it and were going to flag it.  Not sure I've ever seen them miss it.  One official (if not 2) has the job of counting every snap.

What I'm glad to see if whoever WFC tasks with counting every snap made sure we knew and fixed it before the snap.  So while the set deployment failed, the failsafe didn't.

If TMM is 10Y (I think it is?) then that would have given TOR a free 1st down?  That would be disaster.

3 officials,count the defense every play~side judge, back judge and field judge, while the ref and umpire count the offense every play. 

[bunker]

So MOS gets an "accidental icing the kicker" award.  I'll take it.

As to Wallace having no speed in open field, if you are looking at a 330lb+ olineman and quibbling about his 40 times, I think the point is missed.

Its not his 40 time, its his agility to be able to make a block in the open field. Obviously O-linemen will not be able to be as agile as a smaller more athletic player, but there's a spectrum, and Wallace looks to be on the lumbering end of the spectrum.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Its not his 40 time, its his agility to be able to make a block in the open field. Obviously O-linemen will not be able to be as agile as a smaller more athletic player, but there's a spectrum, and Wallace looks to be on the lumering end of the spectrum.

I'd say Neufeld and Geoff Gray were the best downfield blockers in recent years, Wallace is better at bulldozing big O-linemen out of the way along the line and creating horizontal gaps. It's up to the coaching staff to use players attributes in the best possible way and not assign them near impossible tasks.  Wallace is great at what he can do and not very good at what he can't do, they need to use him appropriately in coordination with the player's talent on either side of him.

With so much player rotation in the game now for specialists it's surprising this trend has not effected O-lines, if roster allowed they could accomodate specialists for run blocking and pass protection.

[bunker]

To be fair to Wallace, Goss did take off like a rocket before Brady even got the ball, which did not give Gabe much time to adjust. As he turned around, Goss was almost on his way past him.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

To be fair to Wallace, Goss did take off like a rocket before Brady even got the ball, which did not give Gabe much time to adjust. As he turned around, Goss was almost on his way past him.

Goss could be like Kramdi, effective playmaker but hard to slot into a starter position unless they make up a spot for him. He's listed as a DB, 6'-0" 202 lbs. but they have him playing WIL, it might be smarter to move him to Safety.