Collaros

[Blueforlife]

The main issue I have with Collaros is his short game, his accuracy and ability to hit a small window is an issud.This is where bold I improved his ability to control a game
 

Zach's accuracy is good right now and generally great imo.  He controls the game by slinging TDs and running the ball.  Bombs and Bbb will set us free.  Brown was throwing the ball exceptionally well.  But that's one game, let's see if he can continue to do it.  Ottawa has a better D than Toronto I think.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Zach's accuracy is good right now and generally great imo.  He controls the game by slinging TDs and running the ball.  Bombs and Bbb will set us free.  Brown was throwing the ball exceptionally well.  But that's one game, let's see if he can continue to do it.  Ottawa has a better D than Toronto I think.

...slinging TDs? He has 39 TDs in his last 35 regular season games. He "slings" about one a game.

But yes, he plays for the Bomber so obviously.

[Blueforlife]

...slinging TDs? He has 39 TDs in his last 35 regular season games. He "slings" about one a game.

But yes, he plays for the Bomber so obviously.

The slinging TDs was in reference to Zach ability to find recievers down field dropping dimes,on a regular basis

Yes he has slowed down but you are forgetting his briallance in his time here.

Just one of the best of this generation.

"Zach Collaros has thrown 109 passing touchdowns and 50 interceptions across his regular-season career as a member of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. This gives him a highly efficient career touchdown-to-interception ratio of 2.18 and makes him the all-time leader in TD-to-INT differential (+59) in franchise history."

109/50 yup he slings, we are all allowed to give props or support for our fav. players on here.

I look at players entire contributions to their club over many years.  Focusing just on the best or worst years isn't a fair representation of ones benefit to their club.

My opinion of the players in this league is based on which ones I like regardless of the team they are on, usually backed by their contribution to the club over longer periods

[Jesse]

It's very irrelevant to bring up an aging athletes stats from their prime years. We're discussing his effectiveness now and in the near future and using the past 2+ years as a sample size is not cherry picking. It's looking at his present reality.

[Blueforlife]

It's very irrelevant to bring up an aging athletes stats from their prime years. We're discussing his effectiveness now and in the near future and using the past 2+ years as a sample size is not cherry picking. It's looking at his present reality.

I am bringing up his entire career as a whole.  I don't believe its irrelevant in anyway.  I simply brought up a point about his accuracy, which has remained good, after being great for his career.

Others roasted Thomas at the end of his career when he slowed down after a good career.  I don't forget the past.  One's experience can help them perform well later on.  Adapting is also key.

Yes it was cherry picking.  I could have done the same and just picked his peak years.  I didn't look at his prime years, I looked at all year.  I look at things with a wide lens.  Doesn't mean its a wrong approach.  Others focus on the near term or short term.  Takes all kinds.

A good example of not focusing only on one's later career, struggle pts is BLM.  One of best ever, who then failed for a bit only to retain his form.  Most wrote him off, including me but he found his way again. Can he do it again, we shall see.  Hope so!

[Pigskin]

...slinging TDs? He has 39 TDs in his last 35 regular season games. He "slings" about one a game.

But yes, he plays for the Bomber so obviously omg teen crush, Zachy.

Yes, in his last 35 games he has also thrown 34 Ints.

[Blueforlife]

Yes, in his last 35 games he has also thrown 34 Ints.

Closer to 2:1 for career, which is similar to Brown's numbers

[Pigskin]

Closer to 2:1 for career, which is similar to Brown's numbers

Unfortunately, in pro sports players have expiry dates. ZC8 is getting closer to that date and his stats indicate that, the last couple of seasons.

[Tecno]

Oh for sure. I don't think he's too small. I just think of him as a body type smaller than Collaros and definitely at the minimum size you'd be okay with for a QB usually.

Yup.  But it goes to injury proclivity.  Dru's been knocked out of games pretty easily.

Zach looked absolutely strapped compared to Dru.  Zach a couple of years back must have started a new weight regimen, because all of a sudden he was jacked (for a QB).  It's probably helping to prolong his career.

I don't care about stats, Dru is t.i.n.y out there.  Like I said, he's like the Dressler of QBs.  Doesn't mean he can't play and dismantle D's though!  Tiny VAJ does it.

[Blueforlife]

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Unfortunately, in pro sports players have expiry dates. ZC8 is getting closer to that date and his stats indicate that, the last couple of seasons.

yup but as we see with Bryant, Harris, Willie, they can still shine at the end.  Next few starts for Zach will tell us many things.  Sure hope he can end this great run on top and healthy but for the clubs sake and for his post career life! Been so luck to have him and now Dru and Taylor.  Feeling very confident about our QBs!

[Jesse]

I am bringing up his entire career as a whole.  I don't believe its irrelevant in anyway.  I simply brought up a point about his accuracy, which has remained good, after being great for his career.

Others roasted Thomas at the end of his career when he slowed down after a good career.  I don't forget the past.  One's experience can help them perform well later on.  Adapting is also key.

Yes it was cherry picking.  I could have done the same and just picked his peak years.  I didn't look at his prime years, I looked at all year.  I look at things with a wide lens.  Doesn't mean its a wrong approach.  Others focus on the near term or short term.  Takes all kinds.

A good example of not focusing only on one's later career, struggle pts is BLM.  One of best ever, who then failed for a bit only to retain his form.  Most wrote him off, including me but he found his way again. Can he do it again, we shall see.  Hope so!

No one is forgetting the past. We're predicting future play - which has nothing to do with their peak years.

[theaardvark]

Zach has worked hard the past few years in the off season, losing weight, bulking up, he obviously wants to put in the work to stay relevant.

Dru is regarded as small and fragile.  Now that he is "back home", maybe his buddy Zach can give his some pointers on toughening up. You can be small and durable if you put the work in.

[Blueforlife]

Zach has worked hard the past few years in the off season, losing weight, bulking up, he obviously wants to put in the work to stay relevant.

Dru is regarded as small and fragile.  Now that he is "back home", maybe his buddy Zach can give his some pointers on toughening up. You can be small and durable if you put the work in.

Love that idea, don't just teach him the trade, show him the way to extend one's career!

[Blueforlife]

No one is forgetting the past. We're predicting future play - which has nothing to do with their peak years.

Future play is yes based on their current abilities but its also routed in the lessons learned from the past.  I was simply providing my take on his accuracy, ability to throw TDs while highlighting his career achievements.  I am very confident in his current abilities.  Split on his ability to stay healthy.  I believe our success at QB is more dependent on the play of our OL and how effective our run game is.  Overall not worried about Zach return now that we got Dru waiting in the wings.

I believe you are understating the benefit and contributions ones previous success has to their current situation.  We all grow and change but we are grounded by our past successes and failures.  Zach has adapted by bulking up, might still pay dividends.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Yup.  But it goes to injury proclivity.  Dru's been knocked out of games pretty easily.

Zach looked absolutely strapped compared to Dru.  Zach a couple of years back must have started a new weight regimen, because all of a sudden he was jacked (for a QB).  It's probably helping to prolong his career.

I don't care about stats, Dru is t.i.n.y out there.  Like I said, he's like the Dressler of QBs.  Doesn't mean he can't play and dismantle D's though!  Tiny VAJ does it.

I always thought Trevor Harris was quite small, turns out he's 6'-3" 211 lbs, a couple inches taller than Collaros but not nearly as thick. 

Brown is probably more into yoga and flexibility than weights which might be the better path but he has to avoid taking big shots at all costs, self sacrifice to make a completion leads to destruction and months wasted rehabbing.  Matt Nichols threw the ball away, Kevin Glenn turtled when surrounded, each method was effective at reducing the amount of hits they took.