Collaros

[Austin85]

He's terrible we need to cut the he cord and move on. He can't run his arm is terrible. We're lucky Mitchell went down. I hope he is ok and comes back he is a class act. He would of shred our defense eventually. We need our DB' s to play WAY better, Williams had a good game but Kramdi can't tackle and Holm was out of position allot. Nichols can't cover anymore IMO. Our D line lacks pressure, I know there are new personnel there but this was what it was like last year. Look what Farjardo did to us last week. We need to get better or we will fall in the abyss the Elks were in..

[jets4life]

He's terrible we need to cut the he cord and move on. He can't run his arm is terrible.

SHUT UP

A message to Zach:

As Bomber fans, we love you, and you will always be a Blue Bomber. However, it's time to call it quits. Concussions are serious business, and we don't want you to get CTE. You are a hero for leading us to 2 Grey Cups, and wonderful times that will go down as some of the best in franchise history.

However, it's time to call it a day.  Take care of yourself.

[Tecno]

I have no problem with Zach continuing to play, even in '27.  Every time he takes these whacks he's pulled for "precaution" only.  No one is diagnosing him with concussion.  Don't think he's had one they could discern since when he wore green.  Yes, he almost certainly is getting mini ones.  But do those matter?  Who knows.  Doesn't matter if he doesn't care.

We do have one problem though... Elgersma ran our short game O waaay better than Zach did/does.  Even the lack of a deep threat wasn't an impediment to Elgersma finding targets.  He didn't ignore Cobb wide out, like Zach does.  Elgersma had a bit more zip on the short pass.  He was nearly perfect in catching RECs in stride, even on tricky lateral-ish balls.

But yes, HAM was completely demoralized after BLM died on field.  So take Elgersma with a grain of salt after that.

What Zach brings is the superb mid and decent deep game.  Elgersma may not have that -- at least not yet.  I think Zach could be awesome again if we abandon the short game and do like a 2016-2017 CGY where every pass is mid/deep.  It would also force the run game wide open.  Zach is better when he has the wide field and wider-spaced D's to work with, and the lack of ball zip won't mean an INT -- as long as he throws soon enough the REC isn't more than 50Y away.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

You can't be a starting quarterback and get pulled for precaution or injury every time someone touches your upper back.

Whatever his neck injury, it's not going away.

He deserves a hero's send off and to be celebrated as one of the best Blue Bombers in history, but it's time, both from a play on the field perspective and a practical one.

[bluengold204]

I have no problem with Zach continuing to play, even in '27.  Every time he takes these whacks he's pulled for "precaution" only.  No one is diagnosing him with concussion.  Don't think he's had one they could discern since when he wore green.  Yes, he almost certainly is getting mini ones.  But do those matter?  Who knows.  Doesn't matter if he doesn't care.

We do have one problem though... Elgersma ran our short game O waaay better than Zach did/does.  Even the lack of a deep threat wasn't an impediment to Elgersma finding targets.  He didn't ignore Cobb wide out, like Zach does.  Elgersma had a bit more zip on the short pass.  He was nearly perfect in catching RECs in stride, even on tricky lateral-ish balls.

But yes, HAM was completely demoralized after BLM died on field.  So take Elgersma with a grain of salt after that.

What Zach brings is the superb mid and decent deep game.  Elgersma may not have that -- at least not yet.  I think Zach could be awesome again if we abandon the short game and do like a 2016-2017 CGY where every pass is mid/deep.  It would also force the run game wide open.  Zach is better when he has the wide field and wider-spaced D's to work with, and the lack of ball zip won't mean an INT -- as long as he throws soon enough the REC isn't more than 50Y away.

Yes concussions matter... even 'mini' ones.  The brain is being damaged whether it's a serious or minor one.

While Elgersma may have been completing those short passes, they were ineffective.  The only time we successfully moved the ball was the last drive when he handed off to Brady the entire time.  Not sure if it was the OC playing it safe or that Elgersma can't throw and hit the deep ball but we won't win any games with that game plan of short passes.

[Blueforlife]

Zach are is not terrible, fake news.  You evaluate him and see how he can bounce back from this.  You give him time.  Kramdi is a good ball player who isn't playing his natural position.  Holm is fine.  Nichols is near the end but will still hang on there.  Our DL gets pressure, Willie looked good and Jake is one of the best.  Austin your takes here are a little harsh on the negative here and have a tone of panic where there doesn't need to be one imo.

You can't be a starting quarterback and get pulled for precaution or injury every time someone touches your upper back.

Whatever his neck injury, it's not going away.

He deserves a hero's send off and to be celebrated as one of the best Blue Bombers in history, but it's time, both from a play on the field perspective and a practical one.

He got hit hard blind side, hardly a touch to the neck. Understating the impact here.  Yes his neck issues won't go away.  Concerned yes, gotta be extremely cautious yes, send off talk premature yes.

I have no problem with Zach continuing to play, even in '27.  Every time he takes these whacks he's pulled for "precaution" only.  No one is diagnosing him with concussion.  Don't think he's had one they could discern since when he wore green.  Yes, he almost certainly is getting mini ones.  But do those matter?  Who knows.  Doesn't matter if he doesn't care.

We do have one problem though... Elgersma ran our short game O waaay better than Zach did/does.  Even the lack of a deep threat wasn't an impediment to Elgersma finding targets.  He didn't ignore Cobb wide out, like Zach does.  Elgersma had a bit more zip on the short pass.  He was nearly perfect in catching RECs in stride, even on tricky lateral-ish balls.

But yes, HAM was completely demoralized after BLM died on field.  So take Elgersma with a grain of salt after that.

What Zach brings is the superb mid and decent deep game.  Elgersma may not have that -- at least not yet.  I think Zach could be awesome again if we abandon the short game and do like a 2016-2017 CGY where every pass is mid/deep.  It would also force the run game wide open.  Zach is better when he has the wide field and wider-spaced D's to work with, and the lack of ball zip won't mean an INT -- as long as he throws soon enough the REC isn't more than 50Y away.

Zach has proven his ability to have a good short game in his career.  Yes his mad his name throwing med/long balls on a dime but saying that Taylor's short game > Zach's after one reg. Season game is a huge stretch.  You have been cooking a narrative that we need to focus on the short game and a few others have suggested the same.  Your new claim here is simply tacking on to that narrative imo.  A young QB is well served to develop slow and throw short before building confidence and to maximize ball security.  That said without the deep ball our O won't work.  Bombs and Bbb will set you free. Dink and dunk and we are sunk.

[TBURGESS]

Zach wasn't pulled for precautionary reasons. He was pulled for concussion reasons, and no, it isn't a mini concussion. I'll be shocked if he plays next week. 

[Waffler]

Zach wasn't pulled for precautionary reasons. He was pulled for concussion reasons, and no, it isn't a mini concussion. I'll be shocked if he plays next week.

If that is true he would have been out of uniform immediately. I think it was precaution. They let him stay on the sidelines with his helmet, no way they do that if he is concussed.

[theaardvark]

Zach would never leave a game in progress if there was any option to stay.  Keeping his helmet on both sends mixed signals to the other team and protects him.

He was on the sidelines with ball cap on through the rest of the game.

BLM has probably seen his last CFL snap, involuntarily.

With Dru back, might ZC8 decide to voluntarily preserve his brain now?

I think our QB room with or without ZC8 gives us an equal chance of a successful season, and without ZC8, gives us a better chance next season with a year of the new guard getting live fire action.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Zach's last peak season was 2023 and by the end of it he was beat up and pretty ineffective in the playoffs.

2024 and 2025 weren't good enough and this year is shaping up to be more of the same. Just look at the stat cliff.

Great player. But it's time. We've got the horses now to make the switch, unlike last year.

[Jesse]

I have no problem with Zach continuing to play, even in '27.  Every time he takes these whacks he's pulled for "precaution" only.  No one is diagnosing him with concussion.  Don't think he's had one they could discern since when he wore green.  Yes, he almost certainly is getting mini ones.  But do those matter?  Who knows.  Doesn't matter if he doesn't care.

We do have one problem though... Elgersma ran our short game O waaay better than Zach did/does.  Even the lack of a deep threat wasn't an impediment to Elgersma finding targets.  He didn't ignore Cobb wide out, like Zach does.  Elgersma had a bit more zip on the short pass.  He was nearly perfect in catching RECs in stride, even on tricky lateral-ish balls.

But yes, HAM was completely demoralized after BLM died on field.  So take Elgersma with a grain of salt after that.

What Zach brings is the superb mid and decent deep game.  Elgersma may not have that -- at least not yet.  I think Zach could be awesome again if we abandon the short game and do like a 2016-2017 CGY where every pass is mid/deep.  It would also force the run game wide open.  Zach is better when he has the wide field and wider-spaced D's to work with, and the lack of ball zip won't mean an INT -- as long as he throws soon enough the REC isn't more than 50Y away.

Going back to last year, if these small hits are taking you out of the game - whether for concussion or precautioning against it, I think it's impossible for a team to depend on you as a starting QB. It happened several times last year and now again.

Elgersma was incredibly ineffective though. Not sure what you were seeing out there. Shortened play book obviously, but he was unable to move down the field 4 yards at a time.

[theaardvark]

Going back to last year, if these small hits are taking you out of the game - whether for concussion or precautioning against it, I think it's impossible for a team to depend on you as a starting QB. It happened several times last year and now again.

Elgersma was incredibly ineffective though. Not sure what you were seeing out there. Shortened play book obviously, but he was unable to move down the field 4 yards at a time.

Elgersma was far better than Streveler was in winning the game.  And, unlike Streveler, he's a rookie with nothing but improvement ahead of him.  Condell will open up the playbook as time goes on, he has a rocket of an arm, baby steps in building up the confidence to use it.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Going back to last year, if these small hits are taking you out of the game - whether for concussion or precautioning against it, I think it's impossible for a team to depend on you as a starting QB. It happened several times last year and now again.

Elgersma was incredibly ineffective though. Not sure what you were seeing out there. Shortened play book obviously, but he was unable to move down the field 4 yards at a time.

If you're going to make that statement you've got to hold Collaros to the same standard (I would argue it should be a much higher standard, but whatever).

Collaros - 5 for 7 for 41 yards, 1 INT
Elgersma 11 for 15 for 86 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT

He also looked better than Streveler last year, and Dolegala and Ford. Context matters: first snaps in the CFL in month 2. His floor appears to be year 4 development for the backups he went up against. More reps to find out more.

[tlf]

If that is true he would have been out of uniform immediately. I think it was precaution. They let him stay on the sidelines with his helmet, no way they do that if he is concussed.

Yes, they would have had him in the room being evaluated and under medical supervision.  He wasn't.  It was precautionary.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Yes, they would have had him in the room being evaluated and under medical supervision.  He wasn't.  It was precautionary.

It's the neck injury from two or three seasons ago. It's not going away obviously. Feel badly but I'm sure it's a significant hinderance even when he's playing.