Official Game Day Thread - Edmonton @Winnipeg, June 25, 2026

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TBURGESS

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 01, 2026, 01:48:06 PMWe've seen penalties for players running down the sidelines out of bounds and then coming back in resulting in a penalty. Where they draw the line as to how long or how far a player can do that is less clear. However it is a fact.
True, but were they pushed out first?
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Blue In BC

Quote from: TBURGESS on July 01, 2026, 10:32:34 PMTrue, but were they pushed out first?

Either way, they can't run 15 yards downfield out of bounds and then come back into the field of play. That has actually happened and a penalty called. I deleted the PVR for this game so can't remember the exact situation.
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Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 01, 2026, 01:48:06 PMWe've seen penalties for players running down the sidelines out of bounds and then coming back in resulting in a penalty. Where they draw the line as to how long or how far a player can do that is less clear. However it is a fact.

It might make it more egregious or obvious (thus easier to call), but TB is right: the rule book doesn't care/mention about how long you're OOB.  And it does clearly mention the "re-establish" part and the "out because of contact with another player" part.

If you ever remember what game it is, and it's a WPG game, I can track it down to check it out.  I don't recall that particular tidbit... though I do recall a handful of IP calls in the last decade.  Maybe this is something the good refs notice more and the noobs & incompetents don't.
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Tecno

Quote from: TBURGESS on July 01, 2026, 01:41:47 PMIt's down to what "re-establish" means. Is it one foot in the field of play? Is it both feet? Without a definition in the rule book, it could mean either to neither.

To me it almost means come back in, stop, then continue play.  To me it certainly does not mean "lunge from the sideline and the same motion has you tackling the carrier".

To me it seems like the refs (won't mention which favorite one was there at the time!) are completely oblivious to the fact someone is on the rail.  It's not that they're debating in their heads at the time "is he re-established enough?", it's that they don't even know he's out!
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 07:08:19 AMIt might make it more egregious or obvious (thus easier to call), but TB is right: the rule book doesn't care/mention about how long you're OOB.  And it does clearly mention the "re-establish" part and the "out because of contact with another player" part.

If you ever remember what game it is, and it's a WPG game, I can track it down to check it out.  I don't recall that particular tidbit... though I do recall a handful of IP calls in the last decade.  Maybe this is something the good refs notice more and the noobs & incompetents don't.


Re-establish is a grey area which makes it less clear.
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TBURGESS

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 07:10:53 AMTo me it almost means come back in, stop, then continue play.  To me it certainly does not mean "lunge from the sideline and the same motion has you tackling the carrier".

To me it seems like the refs (won't mention which favorite one was there at the time!) are completely oblivious to the fact someone is on the rail.  It's not that they're debating in their heads at the time "is he re-established enough?", it's that they don't even know he's out!

It was never meant to mean stop then continue play. Going out of bounds means any part of the body is out of bounds. "Back in bounds" could mean that in the reverse. 
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