2026 Main Training Camp - News & Views

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BomberFan73

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 21, 2026, 04:55:28 PMThey did the same with the previous 2 cuts Fletcher and Young, maybe prior to the announcement they meet with Walters to discuss their football future and give them a day to pack their bags and say goodbye to teammates. As for Horne maybe he was told he wasn't going to Saskatoon and reacted badly.

I don't think that is the cade RE: Thorne.
Going by MOS's comments, it seems more likely that something happened in his personal life that he had to take care of.
Could be a million different things, but sometimes life happens and you need to get back closer to home.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Pete on May 21, 2026, 11:07:25 PMname a worse starting cdn in the league
Overstated on the negative imo
Cobb is a decent, versatile vet that will rotate, contribute and start in spot duty.  I prefer glass half full.  I was happy when we signed him.  Good price.

Every teams needs a basket of players.  Never going to be all studs.  The collective abilities makes a club, not individual talents.

Sir Blue and Gold

#302
Quote from: Blueforlife on Today at 01:31:32 AMOverstated on the negative imo
Cobb is a decent, versatile vet that will rotate, contribute and start in spot duty.  I prefer glass half full.  I was happy when we signed him.  Good price.

Every teams needs a basket of players.  Never going to be all studs.  The collective abilities makes a club, not individual talents.

He exists entirely because of the rules and the Canadian requirement. That's fine if that's what you like, but it's the reality all the same. He wouldn't be anywhere near the field if he was competing directly against the best football talents we could conceivably find. That's not good or bad. It's not over stated on positive or negative. It's cold hard truth.

Pete

#303
Quote from: Blueforlife on Today at 01:31:32 AMOverstated on the negative imo
Cobb is a decent, versatile vet that will rotate, contribute and start in spot duty.  I prefer glass half full.  I was happy when we signed him.  Good price.

Every teams needs a basket of players.  Never going to be all studs.  The collective abilities makes a club, not individual talents.
again name a worse starting receiver, Cobb is what he is as is Corcoran, hard working, good attitude but lacking in starter skills. Hes ok as a ingame backup but if demski or Nield goes down  and he has to start it won't be pretty. Likely we would need to go to an import and make adjustments elsewhere

Blueforlife

Quote from: Pete on Today at 01:44:36 AMagain name a worse starting receiver, Cobb is what he is as is Corcoran, hard working, good attitude but lacking in starter skills. Hes ok as a ingame backup but if demski or Nield goes down  and he has to start it won't be pretty. Likely we would need to go to an import and make adjustments elsewhere
There is no value in proceeding with this conversation.  The name a worse player isn't fair to the players and is a weak argument imo.  I see one good vet depth player and a decent young player who might develop.  I prefer to let the movie play out before I turn it off early. 

I believe our depth at receiver is fine and it won't get ugly like you suggest.  The roster isn't set, the season hasn't starting.  Hope is on the rise.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on Today at 01:35:46 AMHe exists entirely because of the rules and the Canadian requirement. That's fine if that's what you like, but it's the reality all the same. He wouldn't be anywhere near the field if he was competing directly against the best football talents we could conceivably find. That's not good or bad. It's not over stated on positive or negative. It's cold hard truth.
Your view point on our depth Canadian talent is not correct imo.  This is the CFL, quality Canadian depth make or breaks clubs.  The reality is this ain't any other league and I don't agree with your viewpoint on this, heard it before and carries no weight for this discussion.  It's not a league where we start the best talent, we have a rules that guarantee meaningful reps for our awesome Canadian players and its the heart of this great league and always will be. 

I strongly believe that Pete was overstating the negative on Cobb and a little on Corcoran.  The truth hasn't been presented by anyone, its just a variety of opinions

Let's move on here, we are at opposite ends of the argument here and there is no middle ground and that ok.  What would be welcome is your take on both players and how they might fit into this year plans under the current rules of this league.

Gut tells me Cobb will have a decent year and Corcoran will continue to develop if he gets enough reps.

Sir Blue and Gold

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Quote from: Blueforlife on Today at 01:59:08 AMYour view point on our depth Canadian talent is not correct imo.  This is the CFL, quality Canadian depth make or breaks clubs.  The reality is this ain't any other league and I don't agree with your viewpoint on this, heard it before and carries no weight for this discussion.  It's not a league where we start the best talent, we have a rules that guarantee meaningful reps for our awesome Canadian players and its the heart of this great league and always will be. 

I strongly believe that Pete was overstating the negative on Cobb and a little on Corcoran.  The truth hasn't been presented by anyone, its just a variety of opinions

Let's move on here, we are at opposite ends of the argument here and there is no middle ground and that ok.  What would be welcome is your take on both players.

Gut tells me Cobb will have a decent year and Corcoran will continue to develop if he gets enough reps.

I agree that quality Canadian depth is important in the CFL. It doesn't make my statement any less true. When we get into third and fourth depth chart Canadians, we're speaking of a different level of talent. It just is what it is. If Cobb is seeing a ton of playing time this year we're in trouble and it doesn't really matter how fun or cool it is that he was born in Victoria instead of Vegas. Just reality hitting up against how you wish things were.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on Today at 02:07:39 AMI agree that quality Canadian depth is important in the CFL. It doesn't make my statement any less true. When we get into third and fourth depth chart Canadians, we're speaking of a different level of talent. It just is what it is. If Cobb is seeing a ton of playing time this year we're in trouble and it doesn't really matter how fun or cool it is that he was born in Victoria instead of Vegas. Just reality hitting up against how you wish things were.
Its nothing to do how I wish things were.  I have presented my thoughts on both players and believe they will contribute, more so Cobb.  I see him getting some reps, making plays and being a versatile contributing member of this club.   The only person who is wishing how things were is you, who doesn't see value in our ratio.

Depth Cdn players with reasonable contracts are critical for any club.  I liked Cobb previously as he has talent, is fun to watch and can make plays.  He isn't a full timer.  He will flash and if at the right time, will help us win ball games.

Your comment about where he is from and it being fun or cool has nothing to do it this.  It's condensending imo

Canadian talent is what makes this league work.  Believe it or not some of us love to follow and watch the success of all the great Canadian players from stars to PR hopefuls.  They are role models for thousands of kids that play ball.  They give people a chance to dream, to make a living as a pro baller. They live and stay in our amazing communities and are at times part of the heart of this great nation.  Canadian pride is real, measurable and important.  Its not about being fun or cool, these are working class contributing members of society.  The league doesn't work, exist or would be successful without them.  Without the CFL as it is, our communities would be impacted. 

Its ok that you don't share this viewpoint.  But let's talk about Cobb and Corcoran here please and leave the rest of the debate behind us. 

Sir Blue and Gold

#308
...I am talking about Cobb. I don't know how I could possibly talk about Cobb more in this scenario.

We really don't want him on the field a ton. If he is, it's because better players have been hurt and instead of being able to put in a young American who may have a high ceiling but need playing time we're putting in a guy who is pretty capped in terms of upside but may eke out productiity if we don't ask much and keep the scenarios narrow.

I understand you love this concept and somehow makes the league more exciting for you. I don't. It's also fair and valid to compare Cobb to other team's back of the lineup Canadian receivers and say he's worse (as another poster did). Again. Fair. No one cares if you don't like it. In all cases it's probably pretty close to the truth.

Again, the real truth on the matter: it's not particularly important or really matters if he's slightly worse or slightly better than the basket of pretty weak Canadian tier 3/4 receivers on other teams. Practically speaking, If we have to play him a bunch it's not going to matter, it's going to suck regardless.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on Today at 02:35:01 AM...I am talking about Cobb. I don't know how I could possibly talk about Cobb more in this scenario.

We really don't want him on the field a ton. If he is, it's because better players have been hurt and instead of being able to put in a young American who may have a high ceiling but need playing time we're putting in a guy who is pretty capped in terms of upside but may eke out productiity if we don't ask much and keep the scenarios narrow.

I understand you love this concept and somehow makes the league more exciting for you. I don't. It's also fair and valid to compare Cobb to other team's back of the lineup Canadian receivers and say he's worse (as another poster did). Again. Fair. No one cares if you don't like it. In all cases it's probably pretty close to the truth.

Again, the real truth on the matter: it's not particularly important or really matters if he's slightly worse or slightly better than the basket of pretty weak Canadian tier 3/4 receivers on other teams. Practically speaking, If we have to play him a bunch it's not going to matter, it's going to suck regardless.
Misrepresenting what Canadian players mean to me.  Never said it wasn't fair to compare him, didn't agree with the opinion fully and believed it was a tad negative.  We all come here to voice opinions, it not about those opinions being liked or not.  The truth isn't presented here, just 3 people's opinions thus far.  I believe the worst case scenario is being presented which hopefully doesn't happen where he takes a bunch of reps.  Most depth players are best suited to stick to the number of reps that suit their abilities and how they fit into the teams needs.  In this case a versatile player who can fill many roles with a reasonable number of reps.  I believe in Cobb and hope he continues to contribute in a variety of ways this season when called upon.  Enjoyed watching him last year.  A little hot and cold.

Young Americans will get their reps.  Cobb and players like him have earned their chance to play and contribute, otherwise they would be unemployed.  There is nothing narrow about what Cobb brings to this club.

I don't think it will suck if Cobb gets more reps than ideal. Just a necessary evil if that situation presents itself, which is more likely to be a short term situation in which the ball club can adapt to as needed and budgets / personnel allow.

Tecno

Quote from: markf on May 21, 2026, 01:41:39 PMI thought Corcoran made some tough catches and didn't drop many at all when he played last season. And blocked well.

I thought Corcoran had some of the best hands amongst our NAT RECs.  Seriously.  But blocking... he's so tiny.  He'll just be shoved aside.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: BIGBLUE204 on May 21, 2026, 02:24:12 PMCorcoran is never going to become a guy defenses need to account for. He's a guy defenses want the ball to go to.

He is fairly young/new, a '25 DP?  Demski didn't look much better in his first couple of years in SSK.

To those saying he's hit his ceiling, I don't think we've seen the best of him yet.

If we move more towards a quicker, shorter, NAT-heavy pass game to emulate SSK, these shifty guys with great hands are key.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

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Quote from: Pete on May 21, 2026, 11:07:25 PMname a worse starting cdn in the league

Seriously?  There's tons.  Busby, for example.  Half of the teams start a NAT WR as 5th to fill the ratio, and most of them are no better.

At least Corcoran has hands.  Those other have nothing.
Never go full Johnston!

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Tecno on Today at 03:07:20 AMI thought Corcoran had some of the best hands amongst our NAT RECs.  Seriously.  But blocking... he's so tiny.  He'll just be shoved aside.
Quote from: Tecno on Today at 03:09:55 AMHe is fairly young/new, a '25 DP?  Demski didn't look much better in his first couple of years in SSK.

To those saying he's hit his ceiling, I don't think we've seen the best of him yet.

If we move more towards a quicker, shorter, NAT-heavy pass game to emulate SSK, these shifty guys with great hands are key.

Agree all.  Way to early to know what we got here.  Great point about Demski.

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 03:11:39 AMSeriously?  There's tons.  Busby, for example.  Half of the teams start a NAT WR as 5th to fill the ratio, and most of them are no better.

At least Corcoran has hands.  Those other have nothing.
The mitts matter

kkc60

Cobb to this point hasn't really shown anything that says "oh yeah he's a starter". That could change, but early on if we're starting an extra canadian, i'd rather not and play a guy like Singer