Blue Bombers announce coaching changes

[Blueforlife]

myself and many others were saying early in the season what MOS said at the end. not rubbing any noses - it wasn't a mystery, it was very evident Hogan wasn't ready and MOS did nothing. 

we had it pegged..

Really easy to pump your tires after the fact.  Firing him early could have made matters worse imo.  I rarely agree with early season coaching changes.  A difficult and frustrating offense this year with more blame to share than just the OC but he was a big part of it.

[dd]

myself and many others were saying early in the season what MOS said at the end. not rubbing any noses - it wasn't a mystery, it was very evident Hogan wasn't ready and MOS did nothing. 

we had it pegged..

Everyone and their brother was screaming when we hired Hogan as OC, I know I was and I was ridculed by the poly anna's on this forum. Have patience, everything will be fine. Ya, for sure Chet. Nno mystery whatsoever, he sucked, as anyone with ZERO OC experience would. you just don't miraculously pickup the offensive schemes on the fly and coach us to a Grey Cup?? Don't trivialize things.  We got EXACTLY what we deserved, a swift kick in the nads for such a stupid mistake.

[RebusRankin]

Really easy to pump your tires after the fact.  Firing him early could have made matters worse imo.  I rarely agree with early season coaching changes.  A difficult and frustrating offense this year with more blame to share than just the OC but he was a big part of it.

Firing a guy whose only OC experience was as a high school coach and who was clearly in over his head would have made things worse? Not buying that.

[Tecno]

Nno mystery whatsoever, he sucked, as anyone with ZERO OC experience would.

Every OC has to have a first season.  Every OC will at one point have "zero CFL OC experience".  Most will have OC'd at some other level, as Hogan had.  Plus we'll assume WFC was grooming Hogan for the job in some capacity, which means they were giving him time up in the booth with Buck or Lapo.

[Tecno]

The beauty of this is that if the D line struggles, and gets no pressure, people can still blame Jake!

Another post of the week!  That darn Fatboi, it'll all be his fault.  Winning... uh, Losing

   

[Tecno]

We're assuming Hogan becomes a better coach? Why? Not everybody does. Sometimes you just need to move on from your mistakes.

Are you forgetting Hogan was our RB coach for a long time before his OC year?  Brady has spoken highly of Hogan as RB coach in every presser these last 2 months.

Thus Hogan was already a good RB coach.  Nothing says he can't get even better as RB coach.  PLUS maybe he'll get better as an OC, with more careful grooming, and have another shot at it in 4 years (possibly with another team).  Or maybe he'll be a RB coach forever.  And that might be just fine.

[Tecno]

very true. things we saw in the first 3 games and no action was taken

Coaches cap.  Period.  Whatever we contracted Hogan for (maybe $125k? wild guess) we'd be on the hook for in the cap.  We already were up against the cap, so where on earth do we get the cap space to keep paying a fired Hogan AND hire/woo a legit OC and pay him $250k?

If you want teams to be able to ditch coaches mid-season then you have to get rid of the cap, or the dumb "you must keep paying them" rule.

We anted up, then went all in, and we had to ride that hand to the very end.

[Tecno]

first third of the season and we had many games with entire quarters of no first downs. 

Ya, but now I can't bet on the opponent to win the 3rd Q and make bank!  I think we had only 2-3 games all season (incl ESF) where we won the 3rd Q.  In hindsight I should have bet the bookie's max each game!! 

[Tecno]

says a lot about the organization that a guy takes a demotion and stays with the team.

Yup.  WFC and Hogan himself.  Nice to see a guy who puts team first, and if the team requests you stay, you stay.

[Tecno]

I am good with the OC and DL coaching changes - not sure Jason Hogan needs to stick around though.

Nothing changed to make him a bad RB coach just because he wasted a year trying out at OC.  He's not a villain or door knob.

[Tecno]

Overall this has the feel of positive news.  Fatboi to DL and Hogan to RB are great moves.

Condell has never been my fave, and I have gripes, but out of the choices I do see how this is probably ideal.  I'll be a lot happier if he keeps the 2021 pubes beard off.   

I also hope they somehow keep Condell from being a '21 Evans slinger OC.  They have to push the run-often mantra.  Part of why HAM lost the '21 GC is they basically didn't run -- just the token running that slinger-OCs toss in there to say they tried.

I do hope Condell brings some of that '21 HAM max-pro 7,8,9(!) man pass pro.  In the reg season no one had an answer for it, including us (they didn't use it in the GC).

MOS is doing the "buck stops here" secrecy thing when he says Brady & Zach had nothing to do with the signing.  Brady already spelled out Hogan couldn't be the OC.  All of these deals were worked out at the same time, and they are all interconnected.  Ya, sure, MOS & KW get the most & final say, but they need to respect Brady when he says he'll walk -- or just let him walk.

[Tecno]

So where's the money (cap space) coming from?  Condell is a "real" OC.  Probably one of the most expensive ones (who aren't already HC's too).  Surely he's worth what Lapo made in '17, or Buck in '23.

Call it double (or more) what Hogan made.  Where's the space?

Was there still a little bit of buffer left over from Buck leaving?

Or did MOS or KW actually take a haircut in their latest contract to provide the needed space??  I always think those guys are taking big bumps, but what if Mafia got together and laid out what needed to be done to win again?

And MOS in the presser said there's still one puzzle piece possibly to come.  And he says Jarious is up in the air (maybe he's the piece?).  That means there still has to be (minor) money left in the cap!

Outside of haircuts, I just can't figure it out.  Too bad we don't get to see the cap report they send to the league...