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LXTSN

25% is a lot. Even 10% is a lot, but I think that's the higher end in a system that works.
Not including injuries of course and assuming you have the best back up in the league and he can run.
It was really only that season or 2 when Streveler was a top backup in the league.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: LXTSN on December 24, 2025, 01:53:55 PM25% is a lot. Even 10% is a lot, but I think that's the higher end in a system that works.
Not including injuries of course and assuming you have the best back up in the league and he can run.
It was really only that season or 2 when Streveler was a top backup in the league.
It was sure a luxury running Strev that much back in the day.  One can dream!

That was real special time for us at QB.  If Zach needs a few maintenance games, 25% would be in reach.  Knock on wood.  Hopefully he remembers to answer his phone or emails early season.  I bet they gave him pager lol.

Would be cool to see #'s on what % each team played their starters last few years.

markf

Quote from: Jesse on December 10, 2025, 04:54:34 PMStrev should absolutely be done as a player at this point in his life.

I do not want the Bombers to be in a place where we're depending on Wilson to start games, but if we kept someone on the roster to be the SY guy, I'm more than happy with him filling that role.

How do we know if Wilson is any good? Or if he could become good?

He's had very limited playing time.


Jesse

Quote from: markf on December 24, 2025, 07:39:01 PMHow do we know if Wilson is any good? Or if he could become good?

He's had very limited playing time.



He's been here for two years and hasn't earned any reps over a shell of Chris Streveler. I'm of the opinion that guys show very quickly if they are going to be good or not. Wilson looks like any other guy that's tried and failed, imo.

I go to to a few practices a year as well and he throws more interceptions than completions.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Jesse on December 24, 2025, 07:51:03 PMHe's been here for two years and hasn't earned any reps over a shell of Chris Streveler. I'm of the opinion that guys show very quickly if they are going to be good or not. Wilson looks like any other guy that's tried and failed, imo.

I go to to a few practices a year as well and he throws more interceptions than completions.

Q: Has Wilson been given a fair shot to show his abilitiy?

A: Nooooooo.

bunker

IMO Wilson will never be anything more than a short yardage guy, but he's good at it.
Artopoeus is too young and inexperienced to rely upon as the #2. Same with Elgersma if he even comes here next season.
Bryce Perkins is intriguing but who knows how he'll adapt to the CFL game, and he has zero CFL experience.
I would feel more comfortable if Walters brought in a QB with CFL experience as the #2, especially with Zach getting older and showing a greater tendency to get injured. Maier, MBT, Crum, Powell, Shlitz, all can win you games, and would be preferable to going with an unknown.

theaardvark

Quote from: bunker on December 24, 2025, 08:44:45 PMIMO Wilson will never be anything more than a short yardage guy, but he's good at it.
Artopoeus is too young and inexperienced to rely upon as the #2. Same with Elgersma if he even comes here next season.
Bryce Perkins is intriguing but who knows how he'll adapt to the CFL game, and he has zero CFL experience.
I would feel more comfortable if Walters brought in a QB with CFL experience as the #2, especially with Zach getting older and showing a greater tendency to get injured. Maier, MBT, Crum, Powell, Shlitz, all can win you games, and would be preferable to going with an unknown.

I'd far rather take a chance on a prospect with unknown but potential CFL ability over a retread.  Sorry, I'd rather have a won't be than a never was, as long as there is a chance he's the next one.
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Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 24, 2025, 08:14:03 PMQ: Has Wilson been given a fair shot to show his abilitiy?

A: Nooooooo.

What do you think they do everyday?
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dd

we currently don't have our #2 Qb on our roster, we have to go find one.

markf

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Quote from: Jesse on December 24, 2025, 09:23:08 PMWhat do you think they do everyday?

If he's that bad, why keep him around for years?

Keeping a quarterback for several years, who you know isn't good enough to actually play quarterback in a game, is not very smart. Just to run for a first down on third and short?  All the while having nobody good enough to actually run the offence?

Seems like a formula for losing when your starter gets hurt.

I think they're pretty smart, so I doubt this is what has happened.




Jesse

Quote from: markf on December 24, 2025, 10:20:16 PMIf he's that bad, why keep him around for years?

Keeping a quarterback for several years, who you know isn't good enough to actually play quarterback in a game, is not very smart. Just to run for a first down on third and short?  All the while having nobody good enough to actually run the offence?

Seems like a formula for losing when your starter gets hurt.

I think they're pretty smart, so I doubt this is what has happened.





Well, I guess we'll see if he comes back. It was his second year and he was good as a SY QB, which is all he ever should have been asked to do as a #3. So I don't think he was kept around too long.

But I think we know enough to move on now unless he is returning to be a specialist.
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bunker

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Quote from: markf on December 24, 2025, 10:20:16 PMIf he's that bad, why keep him around for years?

Keeping a quarterback for several years, who you know isn't good enough to actually play quarterback in a game, is not very smart. Just to run for a first down on third and short?  All the while having nobody good enough to actually run the offence?

Seems like a formula for losing when your starter gets hurt.

I think they're pretty smart, so I doubt this is what has happened.




I don't think they think in such black and white terms as "not good enough to play QB in a game". They assess their skills as a potential starter, and my guess is that if Zach is currently a B to B+, and Strev was a C, then Wilson was grading out as a C-. Not great. But not necessarily worse than any other QB on the planet either. Plus factor in that he already knows the offence to some extent, he's good at short yardage, and he may be a high character guy as well. So, before you let him go, you need to find someone who either grades higher right now, or shows the potential to surpass him. In the latter situation, where there is just future potential, my guess is they will keep a QB like that on the PR. In TC, if anyone shows better than Wilson, or a lot more potential that Wilson, Wilson may be cut. But its not a given until they assess the other QBs. And its not a given that whoever is kept instead of Wilson is all that great either, and may not be seen as ready to start in a game either. Sometimes you may have to keep a QB on the roster that your not thrilled with in terms of getting real game reps, because there is not much better available, or the available options are too expensive.

Tecno

Quote from: markf on December 24, 2025, 10:20:16 PMKeeping a quarterback for several years, who you know isn't good enough to actually play quarterback in a game, is not very smart.

Dom Davis says hi.  Another WFC waste of time.  Man they tried hard to make him a #1, then at the very end a SY.  He stunk at both.

Wilson is like Dom Redux.  Sad.
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Tecno

Quote from: Jesse on December 24, 2025, 07:51:03 PMHe's been here for two years and hasn't earned any reps over a shell of Chris Streveler. I'm of the opinion that guys show very quickly if they are going to be good or not.

Except as everyone always brings up: Calvillo says hi.  I wasn't watching when he was starting out or getting good, but people tell me he was pretty bad for many, many years.  Then he was the best.

That said, I think it would take a miracle for Wilson to be the next Calvillo.  Clearly Calvillo has a lot going on upstairs (he's now a very good OC!) -- Wilson sounds like he has as much upstairs as Kenny does.
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