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LXTSN · December 10, 2025, 03:42:32 PM

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on December 10, 2025, 03:33:18 PMIt would be wise on Elgersma to sign up here and really get his career rolling. His toiling down there is fruitless.

But the reward is so much higher if he's able to crack an active roster in the NFL. I also find it extremely unlikely, but I'd never knock him for trying!
He's only 23 years old, so there's lots of time.

Can we all agree that we should look to replace both Strev and Wilson??
Not saying it will actually happen with how stubborn our upper management has been, but without a doubt in my mind, it would be the right decision...

Blue In BC · December 10, 2025, 04:23:16 PM

Quote from: LXTSN on December 10, 2025, 03:42:32 PMBut the reward is so much higher if he's able to crack an active roster in the NFL. I also find it extremely unlikely, but I'd never knock him for trying!
He's only 23 years old, so there's lots of time.

Can we all agree that we should look to replace both Strev and Wilson??
Not saying it will actually happen with how stubborn our upper management has been, but without a doubt in my mind, it would be the right decision...

In the case of Streveler he may not even be ready for half a season, but yes we should move on from him.

Wilson's ceiling is not really anything we know with certainty. I'm not expecting to add a more experience QB in free agency, but that's possible.

On the surface Perkins may have more upside and experience ( from USFL ). Wilson has been on our roster for 2 seasons but we're expecting a new OC so his advantage may have disappeared. Some posters need to comment on what they saw in any practices they saw.

It's probably safe to think Wilson is pencilled in as the # 2 until a move is made. As we've mentioned there are 11 QB's on the neg list and in theory someone might be added by TC.

I'd like to think Wilson gets a shot in TC to prove he belongs but he's a TBD.

Jesse · December 10, 2025, 04:54:34 PM

Quote from: LXTSN on December 10, 2025, 03:42:32 PMBut the reward is so much higher if he's able to crack an active roster in the NFL. I also find it extremely unlikely, but I'd never knock him for trying!
He's only 23 years old, so there's lots of time.

Can we all agree that we should look to replace both Strev and Wilson??
Not saying it will actually happen with how stubborn our upper management has been, but without a doubt in my mind, it would be the right decision...

Strev should absolutely be done as a player at this point in his life.

I do not want the Bombers to be in a place where we're depending on Wilson to start games, but if we kept someone on the roster to be the SY guy, I'm more than happy with him filling that role.

theaardvark · December 10, 2025, 05:13:52 PM

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on December 10, 2025, 03:33:18 PMIt would be wise on Elgersma to sign up here and really get his career rolling. His toiling down there is fruitless.

Elgersma at #2 here would be less visibility than a PR in the NFL.

Now, if he gets a legit chance to be #1, if Collaros renegotiates his contract with a low salary and game start bonus, and Elgersma gets the same, were I he, I'd sign in an instant.

But signing behind a veteran that was kept in the GC by his current coach even though he could not grip the football, I wouldn't like my chances of getting in the game and making game film to shop south of the border.

Make it worth his while. Give him a legit shot at taking over BEFORE Collaros leaves (or get knocked out). Platoon Collaros to extend his career.

I know there is less than 0% chance that can happen. We will stick with Collaros again, and Elgersma will have a slight chance of choosing to come north and ride a CFL bench over a much more lucrative NFL bench.

LXTSN · December 10, 2025, 06:01:58 PM

I agree that Wilson hasn't really been given the chance, but he's had a few opportunities and he hasn't exactly shined.
He is a solid short yardage QB.

In a perfect world, I would like to have this:
QB1 - Star QB / Starter
QB2 - Solid serviceable veteran. Jake Maier, MBT, Crum... etc. Someone that can win you games short term, but not a championship.
QB3 - Prospect / potential future starter. He would ideally be your short yardage QB as well.

I think we had a bad QB room last season with 2 short yardage QB's and Collaros struggled.
Hoping that Zach can come back from a down season. He's oldish QB's can last a long time!

Tecno · December 11, 2025, 06:00:33 PM

Quote from: LXTSN on December 10, 2025, 06:01:58 PMQB2 - Solid serviceable veteran. Jake Maier, MBT, Crum... etc. Someone that can win you games short term, but not a championship.

I'm pretty sure all of Maier, MBT, Crum are well under .500 in their last 10 starts. There's a reason they are backups -- and probably with worse records than Strev!

Throw Long Bannatyne · December 11, 2025, 06:10:55 PM

Quote from: theaardvark on December 10, 2025, 05:13:52 PMElgersma at #2 here would be less visibility than a PR in the NFL.

Now, if he gets a legit chance to be #1, if Collaros renegotiates his contract with a low salary and game start bonus, and Elgersma gets the same, were I he, I'd sign in an instant.

But signing behind a veteran that was kept in the GC by his current coach even though he could not grip the football, I wouldn't like my chances of getting in the game and making game film to shop south of the border.

Make it worth his while. Give him a legit shot at taking over BEFORE Collaros leaves (or get knocked out). Platoon Collaros to extend his career.

I know there is less than 0% chance that can happen. We will stick with Collaros again, and Elgersma will have a slight chance of choosing to come north and ride a CFL bench over a much more lucrative NFL bench.

There really is no evidence Elgersma will be an instant fix or better than any other Import QB the Bombers could recruit. Paying him Tre Ford money upfront may get him to sign sooner but could also create a problem if he doesn't pan out like Ford has in Edmonton. Apparently with the signing of Fajardo Hervey intends to find a way to dump Ford's salary, could be the biggest story of the off-season, logical destination for him is BC as Rourke's backup.

Blue In BC · December 11, 2025, 06:14:47 PM

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 11, 2025, 06:10:55 PMThere really is no evidence Elgersma will be an instant fix or better than any other Import QB the Bombers could recruit. Paying him Tre Ford money upfront may get him to sign sooner but could also create a problem if he doesn't pan out like Ford has in Edmonton. Apparently with the signing of Fajardo Hervey intends to find a way to dump Ford's salary, could be the biggest story of the off-season, logical destination for him is BC as Rourke's backup.

Why is BC a logical destination? Just because the Lions start a Canadian QB doesn't mean anything. It all comes down to any new SMS cost if he's released outright.

For the same money as Wilson, I'd take him in Winnipeg. He certainly has more current experience than any of our back up choices. He may never become a good # 2 but is he better than what we currently have?

Throw Long Bannatyne · December 11, 2025, 06:25:23 PM

Quote from: Blue In BC on December 11, 2025, 06:14:47 PMWhy is BC a logical destination? Just because the Lions start a Canadian QB doesn't mean anything. It all comes down to any new SMS cost if he's released outright.

For the same money as Wilson, I'd take him in Winnipeg. He certainly has more current experience than any of our back up choices. He may never become a good # 2 but is he better than what we currently have?

Yes Ford's nationality is the first consideration, with the way Rourke plays he's sure to miss a bunch of games every season. Plus Mazoli is done and Brice hasn't shown much yet so they need to upgrade their backup QB situation. Somebody somewhere is going to pay Ford at least $200k for his potential, don't think he'd squeeze in under Wilson's modest salary.

kkc60 · December 18, 2025, 08:59:57 PM

Quote from: LXTSN on December 10, 2025, 06:01:58 PMI agree that Wilson hasn't really been given the chance, but he's had a few opportunities and he hasn't exactly shined.
He is a solid short yardage QB.

In a perfect world, I would like to have this:
QB1 - Star QB / Starter
QB2 - Solid serviceable veteran. Jake Maier, MBT, Crum... etc. Someone that can win you games short term, but not a championship.
QB3 - Prospect / potential future starter. He would ideally be your short yardage QB as well.

I think we had a bad QB room last season with 2 short yardage QB's and Collaros struggled.
Hoping that Zach can come back from a down season. He's oldish QB's can last a long time!

he has not been a good sport yardage QB, he's actually been pretty not good at it.

bwiser · December 18, 2025, 09:56:02 PM

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 06, 2025, 12:50:40 AMCan't help but feel the Bombers will be behind the 8-ball from the start betting the farm on Zach again based on the 2 good performances he put up last season. He's not even ranked in the top 6 QB's in ability anymore, don't know how they could sit through last season and not come to realize he's all out of magic beans and the poor results delivered were not everyone else's fault. Maybe Zach will prove me wrong, but I seldom believe in what I can't see.

Not many options available this off-season but I would straight up trade him to the Argos for Arbuckle, he may not be the best but you get a cheaper, younger, more mobile QB with a decent arm that is intelligent enough to be coached to success with the help of a good OC.

Colleros didn't have a great season in 2025 however I do think a lot of that had to do with the poor play of the offensive line. Oliveras numbers were down from previous years largely for the same reason.

bunker · December 18, 2025, 10:09:21 PM

Quote from: kkc60 on December 18, 2025, 08:59:57 PMhe has not been a good sport yardage QB, he's actually been pretty not good at it.

I thought Wilson has been solid at short yardage. Very rarely got stuffed, and doing it behind a middling O-line. He went for longer gains at least once or twice also. He's not Tommy Stevens, but he's more than adequate. He's nothing more than a short yardage QB IMO though. We need a real #2.

Jesse · December 18, 2025, 11:27:07 PM

Quote from: bwiser on December 18, 2025, 09:56:02 PMColleros didn't have a great season in 2025 however I do think a lot of that had to do with the poor play of the offensive line. Oliveras numbers were down from previous years largely for the same reason.

Brady's numbers weren't down at all. He had less carries because he missed 4 games.

He had the same yards per carry as his previous couple of years and set a new career high in receptions and receiving yards.