Blue Bombers add quarterback

Blue In BC · March 04, 2026, 01:45:10 PM

Quote from: TBURGESS on March 04, 2026, 02:25:44 AMStarted a few games isn't what I call a starter.

What I'm saying is the chances of any Canadian QB, especially one who didn't have US coaching, becoming a starter in the CFL is remarkably slim. If he makes it he will be a unicorn, like Rourke.

Datillo had nearly 10,000 yards in passing. While there aren't many there were a few Canadian QB's.

Throw Long Bannatyne · March 04, 2026, 04:13:52 PM

Quote from: TBURGESS on March 04, 2026, 02:25:44 AMStarted a few games isn't what I call a starter.

What I'm saying is the chances of any Canadian QB, especially one who didn't have US coaching, becoming a starter in the CFL is remarkably slim. If he makes it he will be a unicorn, like Rourke.

Better watch out, "cause the times they are a-changin'", in times past it would have been hard to believe Canadians could be the best players at their position, now it's not that unusual.

dd · March 04, 2026, 09:57:27 PM

While NAT's are now playing non-traditional positions, they are the exception not the rule. Other that Rourke, there is no NAT in the league in any teams Qb room, and I don't think that's going to change anytime soon. No one other than a small group in Winnipeg, even has Elgersma on any Qb radar screen, and I really doubt that changes. I saw him play in the Vanier Cup and he didn't stand out at all, so I m not holding my breath on this guy at all

bluengold204 · March 04, 2026, 10:53:05 PM

Quote from: dd on March 04, 2026, 09:57:27 PMWhile NAT's are now playing non-traditional positions, they are the exception not the rule. Other that Rourke, there is no NAT in the league in any teams Qb room, and I don't think that's going to change anytime soon. No one other than a small group in Winnipeg, even has Elgersma on any Qb radar screen, and I really doubt that changes. I saw him play in the Vanier Cup and he didn't stand out at all, so I m not holding my breath on this guy at all

Ford

Sir Blue and Gold · March 04, 2026, 11:08:34 PM

Quote from: bluengold204 on March 04, 2026, 10:53:05 PMFord

Hahaha. I think dd is still right.

Tecno · March 05, 2026, 12:28:38 AM

Quote from: bunker on March 04, 2026, 12:05:21 PMIMO QB is too important a position to worry much about Nat or non-Nat. You need to find the best player at the position, period. If it happens to be a Nat, that's a bonus, but its not worth enough to even consider starting an inferior QB.

I don't know. NAT tips the scale a bit. Let's say you can pick from Alexander or Rourke. To me Alexander is better, but not by too much. So which QB do you hire? The question is made tough because Rourke is a NAT and lets you start, say, another IMP OL.

So, on the margin, being a NAT does alter the calculus.

bunker · March 05, 2026, 02:45:53 AM

Quote from: Tecno on March 05, 2026, 12:28:38 AMI don't know. NAT tips the scale a bit. Let's say you can pick from Alexander or Rourke. To me Alexander is better, but not by too much. So which QB do you hire? The question is made tough because Rourke is a NAT and lets you start, say, another IMP OL.

So, on the margin, being a NAT does alter the calculus.

I'd sign Rourke. But because I think he's the better QB, not because he's a Nat.

Would you have played Ford over Fahardo? You can start another American, sure, but meanwhile inferior QB play dooms your play off chances.

Tecno · March 05, 2026, 03:38:49 AM

Quote from: bunker on March 05, 2026, 02:45:53 AMI'd sign Rourke. But because I think he's the better QB, not because he's a Nat.

Would you have played Ford over Fahardo? You can start another American, sure, but meanwhile inferior QB play dooms your play off chances.

Rourke -> Alexander
is not the same as
Ford -> Fajardo

Ford is a never-was and has never proven squat and likely never will. Rourke & Alexander are both future long-term superstars of the CFL. Fajardo is the perennial mediocre (see: Maier, Arbuckle).

If you want to use Ford in this analogy then compare him to say, Strev. Even that's not a good one because Strev is way better (has way more wins!). Maybe Ford to Crum. Nope... still not good, Crum has won more. LOL

TBURGESS · March 05, 2026, 02:57:40 PM

Gemini said:
Since 1970, the CFL quarterback landscape has been a masterclass in the "Import Model," with Canadian-born talent serving as a rare anomaly.
1. CFL QB Demographic Breakdown (1970–2026)
The disparity between Canadian and American starters is one of the most significant statistical gaps in professional sports.

Category	Canadian-Born (National)	American (Import)
Starts > 3 Games	~14	~275
"True" Starters (QB1)	3 (Dattilio, Rourke, Ford)	~158
Percentage of True Starters	1.86%	98.14%

dd · March 05, 2026, 04:26:09 PM

Quote from: bluengold204 on March 04, 2026, 10:53:05 PMFord

Haha, good one, proves my point even better. Most would argue ford doesn't belong in any qb room but is there only because he's a NAT. If he was an import he'd be out on the street. That's hardly being the best at his position , I don't think he's in football a year from now and same will be said for elgersma.

theaardvark · March 05, 2026, 06:33:11 PM

Quote from: dd on March 05, 2026, 04:26:09 PMHaha, good one, proves my point even better. Most would argue ford doesn't belong in any qb room but is there only because he's a NAT. If he was an import he'd be out on the street. That's hardly being the best at his position , I don't think he's in football a year from now and same will be said for elgersma.

I'll take that bet.

bunker · Reply #131 - Re: Blue Bombers add quarterback

Apparently Collaros has restructured his contract per Derek Taylor.

Tecno · Reply #132 - Re: Blue Bombers add quarterback

Quote from: bunker on Today at 12:33:22 AMApparently Collaros has restructured his contract per Derek Taylor.

Tell us more! I'm a bit shocked, as it doesn't make sense at this juncture. The roster is pretty set. There are no more FAs. WPG has zero options at QB.

Even if all of a sudden Zach decides to be the nicest guy in the world to help the team, I'm not sure it can help the team NOW. 3 months ago, sure. But now it's too late? Unless KW went over budget and asked Zach to bail him out.

Of course... that's assuming we got Zach to go LOWER. Maybe Zach made them restructure HIGHER!

Tecno · Reply #133 - Re: Blue Bombers add quarterback

Quote from: dd on March 05, 2026, 04:26:09 PMHaha, good one, proves my point even better. Most would argue ford doesn't belong in any qb room but is there only because he's a NAT.

I'm not sure about that. C.Jones AR'd that Loxley(?) guy quite a bit, at QB and even other positions? Dude was very similar to Ford. Super athletic but can't seem to make it work at QB.

And he wasn't even a NAT!

Point being, that IMP had a roster spot, so why not Ford who has the benefit of basically being a free dress as a NAT.

What they should do is designate Ford as a non-QB, NAT, AR guy. That way they can still dev & dress 2 other real QB prospects.

Is it legal to field ZERO designated QBs for a play? Or does there always have to be 1+? Those plays where teams sneak with a TE or RB... is there a QB out wide? Or no QB?

Throw Long Bannatyne · Reply #134 - Re: Blue Bombers add quarterback

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 12:47:28 AMTell us more! I'm a bit shocked, as it doesn't make sense at this juncture. The roster is pretty set. There are no more FAs. WPG has zero options at QB.

Even if all of a sudden Zach decides to be the nicest guy in the world to help the team, I'm not sure it can help the team NOW. 3 months ago, sure. But now it's too late? Unless KW went over budget and asked Zach to bail him out.

Of course... that's assuming we got Zach to go LOWER. Maybe Zach made them restructure HIGHER!

Probably just re-arranged the numbers to better suit one side or the other, maybe they went wild and designated more of Zach's salary to the marketing budget.