Blue Bombers add quarterback

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blue_or_die

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 27, 2025, 05:46:02 PMWell if you think Streveler is a qualified # 2 QB then we have a different view. Yes the Bombers won the game but that doesn't mean much IMO. He's not a good QB beyond being a SY freak of nature so to speak.

In that game Peterson ran for 130 yards and Lions were still trying to define their roster.

Strev was definitely viewed as a "viable" #2 going into last year despite many thinking that 2024 proved he was done. Personally I was on the fence as I wanted to believe what we saw in 2024 was bad luck of sorts and I wanted to be optimistic he could revive his 2019 magic. Hindsight proves that wrong, however, but regardless, I think that was the thought process for 2025 and unfortunately sits in an outbox pile of failures of last season.

The Strev experiment is over now, and I think we will have a prospect for the future as well as another prospect who will also be expected to excel at SY and even other "athletic" special plays - that would be Perkins presumably and hopefully Elgersma to take in the CFL and start to get good. I don't know any of this for certain but the logic makes sense.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: blue_or_die on November 27, 2025, 06:02:49 PMThe Strev experiment is over now...

Without a doubt. Consecutive knee injuries for a player who relies heavily on his mobility to be successful makes him a serious liability going forward.

Miles Brown is scum.
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markf

Wilson is a very good short yardage qb.


Blue In BC

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 27, 2025, 06:01:38 PMI said or implied no such thing. I simply disagree with the claim that a problem started in TC relative to the QB corps here for 2025.

A win is a win and Streveler helped the team get that win in week 1. Your silly excuses for the Lions being on the losing end of that game don't change that fact.

It's not just that game. Streveler's time in the CFL has not been progressing. He was essentially a strong runner that threw an odd pass. He never learned to read a defence. His mechanics were horrible and once he lost his ability to run things got worse.

He beat Ottawa with 54 yards passing. Ottawa isn't / wasn't even a good team.

Does he get a gold star for that? Isn't this the context of the discussion in this string?

Bombers may not have had a better option going into TC. I did point this point before TC started that this was not good. No upside, injury history and any extended time needing to start would end badly.

If without his current injury did he show anybody on the planet that he should be back for TC this season?

One game at a time.

Blue In BC

Quote from: blue_or_die on November 27, 2025, 06:02:49 PMStrev was definitely viewed as a "viable" #2 going into last year despite many thinking that 2024 proved he was done. Personally I was on the fence as I wanted to believe what we saw in 2024 was bad luck of sorts and I wanted to be optimistic he could revive his 2019 magic. Hindsight proves that wrong, however, but regardless, I think that was the thought process for 2025 and unfortunately sits in an outbox pile of failures of last season.

The Strev experiment is over now, and I think we will have a prospect for the future as well as another prospect who will also be expected to excel at SY and even other "athletic" special plays - that would be Perkins presumably and hopefully Elgersma to take in the CFL and start to get good. I don't know any of this for certain but the logic makes sense.

IDK. I viewed it as the least bad option considering who was available and would come to Winnipeg at an affordable SMS.

This isn't my hindsight. I said it when he was signed before TC began. Many others felt the same way. Others were optimistic because he's a popular person and had some success earlier on a top level team surrounding him.

That's not currently the situation.
One game at a time.

gobombersgo

I'd like to see Strevy stick around with the organization by becoming a community ambassador like Brandon Alexander.

It would be great to still run into him on game days and have him contribute to the football community around the province.

He might decide to focus on his quarterback school full time however.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 27, 2025, 09:23:47 PMIDK. I viewed it as the least bad option considering who was available and would come to Winnipeg at an affordable SMS.

This isn't my hindsight. I said it when he was signed before TC began. Many others felt the same way. Others were optimistic because he's a popular person and had some success earlier on a top level team surrounding him.

That's not currently the situation.

Strev turned out to be what he always was, a decent run focused #2 QB with little chance of ever rising to #1. My biggest concern is he was a placeholder blocking the path of other QB's who had a better chance of rising to #1. They've employed Terry Wilson for 2 full seasons and still don't have a clear vision of what he can become. It won't surprise me if they cut him instead of finding out.

Blue In BC

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Quote from: gobombersgo on November 27, 2025, 09:36:41 PMI'd like to see Strevy stick around with the organization by becoming a community ambassador like Brandon Alexander.

It would be great to still run into him on game days and have him contribute to the football community around the province.

He might decide to focus on his quarterback school full time however.

Isn't his girlfriend from Winnipeg? Regardless your idea has merit.  He's a very likeable personality but I have no idea what his plans will be going forward. He may have some interest in coaching at some point but as what exactly and what team has space / need right now.

His interest may lie elsewhere in business and location. I'm not aware of his interest in permanently moving to Canada.

As for the post above mine I agree. That is the risk with every player that isn't the " star " per se. The team may have had high expectations for the other back ups developing more in 2025. Maybe they still do. Unless some spent a lot of time observing at practice it's an unknown issue.

Bombers aren't the only team with the same kind of issues. Every team has had recruits come and go at the QB position. It's not like starting Qb's are falling out of trees.

Wilson could get cut before TC or end up as our # 2 next year. At least in the next man up concept at the beginning. Does he have a future? I hope so but I have nothing to base it on at the moment.
One game at a time.

Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 27, 2025, 01:01:22 PMThat's not the point. The point is that we don't need our # 2 QB to be the SY player. We need to find a # 2 QB with an actual chance to become a starter in the future, not a place holder.

That's because the CFL doesn't really have 3 types of QBs, they have 4, and every team really needs all 4.  That means at least one QB must fit 2 categories.

a. Franchise starter
b. Ready-now backup when #1 is injured
c. SY specialist
d. Dev guy you hope will be future #1

The confusion for us in '25 was that Strev was b&c.  No one ever thought of him as d, at least not as late as '25.  Wilson was d&c, but kept around mostly for d.

The reason b&d must be separated is when you bring in a raw rookie, even one with #1 potential, you don't want to be forced to play him that season.  Even Dru didn't do much until year 2.

Thus a Strev-like guy who is definitely not d, but is a reliable b, is very valuable while you still develop your d guy (Wilson).

And Strev was dirt cheap.  Can't discount the impact of him asking for peanuts, as KW doesn't want to tie up a lot $$ in the QB room.
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Tecno

Quote from: VictorRomano on November 27, 2025, 02:21:37 PMSadly, people called me crazy last offseason when I said we should jettison Streveller and go after Tommy Stevens as our SY guy.

It was crazy without having a legit .500 backup QB.  Stevens has proven he can't do anything other than SY.  He was legit horrible at actually being a real QB.  Like worse than Marve (who was a superb SY guy).  Stevens is pure SY.  Period.

Wilson was still a dev and was not going to step in and win you games if Zach went down.  Whereas everyone knew Strev would win us .500 (he's proven it every season he's been here).

That is why we hired Strev and not Stevens.  PLUS, Stevens is making probably $50k more than Strev.  We couldn't afford him.
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Blueforlife

I'm  with Techno and Jesse here

DM83

Yeah Doug Flutie was lousy when he came up here. Geez we get a legitimate guy with credentials and you. Crap on him.

Blue In BC

Is Mark Gronowski, QB listed on our neg list the one from Iowa? On the neg list it shows South Dakota. So either 2 with the same name or an error.

Iowa is playing Nebraska on TV right now.
One game at a time.

Jesse

Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 05:56:06 PMIs Mark Gronowski, QB listed on our neg list the one from Iowa? On the neg list it shows South Dakota. So either 2 with the same name or an error.

Iowa is playing Nebraska on TV right now.

He played for 5 years at South Dakota and got an extra year of eligibility and transferred to Iowa.
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