Blue Bombers add quarterback

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theaardvark

"All things being equal" is the key here.

If you match what a player is offered by a team closer to his home, he goes there.  So you overpay to keep him.  Not fair.

So we skew advantages to BC and Toronto/Hamilton, and get defections after ELC's are up.

Yes, coaches/GMs get to interview prospective draftees, and I'm sure every player will tell the truth about not needing to play close to their home of 20+ years.  And yes, maybe some players want out of their life long home, but to Winnipeg?  Or worse, Regina?

NHL players can sign longer deals with their current teams, which works in their advantage, and the team's.  CFL players can get guaranteed money in extended contracts with a team they have current history with.

Limited SMS relief to re-sign draft picks seems a totally reasonable way to create more continuity.  Giving you more SMS to re-sign a player coming off an ELC give the retaining team an advantage in being able to outbid a team closer to home, and actually saving SMS cap room while geographically overpaying.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on March 24, 2026, 06:24:44 PM"All things being equal" is the key here.

If you match what a player is offered by a team closer to his home, he goes there.  So you overpay to keep him.  Not fair.

So we skew advantages to BC and Toronto/Hamilton, and get defections after ELC's are up.

Yes, coaches/GMs get to interview prospective draftees, and I'm sure every player will tell the truth about not needing to play close to their home of 20+ years.  And yes, maybe some players want out of their life long home, but to Winnipeg?  Or worse, Regina?

NHL players can sign longer deals with their current teams, which works in their advantage, and the team's.  CFL players can get guaranteed money in extended contracts with a team they have current history with.

Limited SMS relief to re-sign draft picks seems a totally reasonable way to create more continuity.  Giving you more SMS to re-sign a player coming off an ELC give the retaining team an advantage in being able to outbid a team closer to home, and actually saving SMS cap room while geographically overpaying.

Ratio is not all things are equal.
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theaardvark

Quote from: Blue In BC on March 24, 2026, 07:09:58 PMRatio is not all things are equal.
Exactly. 

Having to maintain ratio means that a Nat player coming off an ELC can be a valuable commodity for other teams to chase, but might be difficult for the drafting team to allocate cap space for.

Giving the drafting team a small incentive to bump the offer goes a long way in keeping continuity.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on March 24, 2026, 07:36:03 PMExactly. 

Having to maintain ratio means that a Nat player coming off an ELC can be a valuable commodity for other teams to chase, but might be difficult for the drafting team to allocate cap space for.

Giving the drafting team a small incentive to bump the offer goes a long way in keeping continuity.

Where does it stop? There are more import starters than Canadians. It's a rat hole idea. Rosters change every season, some talent is replaced by newer talent at lower cost.

As I said your idea is not a competitive playing field. It has to be a free market where a rich team can't just over pay the competition.

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Pigskin

I am not all that happy with our QB room at this point. It's ZC8 and bunch of ?? Love to have a backup with some CFL experience going into TC. 
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Pigskin on March 24, 2026, 09:42:24 PMI am not all that happy with our QB room at this point. It's ZC8 and bunch of ?? Love to have a backup with some CFL experience going into TC. 

None of us are happy about that. I'm not sure what we can do and have it make sense financially as well as practically.

I'm not a fan of Masoli or MBT but they have the ability to win on a good team.

Fingers are really crossed hoping that Perkins and Thorne show well.
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Blueforlife

We will live or die with Zach another year and his success will come on the back of our OL.  Hopefully our other QBs get some reps and next year we will have to consider brining in a vet or two.  If the OL gels early we will be fine.

Sir Blue and Gold

Looks like Streveler is retiring.

Blueforlife

Wish Strev the best of luck in the next chapter of his career.  Proud of what he did here and down South.  Not easy playing pro ball, let alone QB.

blue_or_die

Long live Strefalski.

Now we can talk about the legendary warrior he was in 2019 and the fur coat and all that jazz for the rest of our lives.
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theaardvark

#235
The last thing I want is the distraction of a proven loser QB with "CFL experience"

You can't roster 2 legit, proven starting CFL QBs.  You are always going to have a QB2 and QB3 that are either unproven, or proven not worth starting pay.

I want us to find the "next" one.  Is it going to be Perkins or Thorne?  More likely that it being Masoli or MBT.

Does Wilson make the next step?

Is it Elgersma?  Fingers crossed we get to see.

Walters, Oshea, Condell all have been in this league long enough to know all the QB's with CFL experience that are out there, and what they can bring.  If we have nothing but duds in camp and preseason, there will be QBs with "CFL experience" on couches looking for a gig.

We can take that step then if needed, not before.

EDIT:
Just an interesting note:  MBT's Wiki page has the teams he's played for

San Jose SaberCats (2011)
San Francisco 49ers (2011)*
Sacramento Mountain Lions (2011)
Miami Dolphins (2011)*
Minnesota Vikings (2012–2013)
San Francisco 49ers (2013)
New England Patriots (2014)*
Minnesota Vikings (2014)*
Miami Dolphins (2014–2015)*
San Francisco 49ers (2015)*
Philadelphia Eagles (2016)*
Winnipeg Blue Bombers (2016)*
Toronto Argonauts (2017–2019, 2021–2022)
New Orleans Breakers (2023)
Edmonton Elks (2024)
Montreal Alouettes (2025)
* Offseason and/or practice squad member only

The weird line in his Wiki page I didn't know was he played in the "Spring league" (not listed above) for the Aviators and: "While the Aviators under Bethel-Thompson earned a championship appearance, he declined to attend the game to prepare for "opportunities in more sustainable leagues with more resources available to the players."  He quit on the team IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP to "prepare" for a better opportunity.  Sure, a minor league that had its season shut down because of COVID, but still... if their money was good enough for you to take until then, you go to the championship game.
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Pete

Yeah, Id also rather take a chance with a rookie qb, than go with one that we know is not gonna win games for us

Pigskin

Kelley/Arbuckle
Mitchell/Ford
Alexander/Crum
Fajardo/Powell
Rourke/Brice
Adams/Walker
Harris/Coan
Brown/Maier
Collaros/Wilson.

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Pigskin

 I think Strev. made a very smart decision.
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