Bluebomber OC position discussion

Started by The Zipp, November 24, 2025, 04:44:23 PM

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Tecno

And still no one has answered:

WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM for a real OC?  None of the real ones are going to work for Hogan money.  And Mafia is already tight to the coach cap.  There is no money!

We'd literally have to rig up one of those BLM "cushy no-show job for the wife" things.  And I'm not saying we wouldn't do that... but you have to be careful on how much you play with the coach cap (cough cough Hall cough Jarious).

Add in the fact that I don't think the coach cap has gone up in like 4 years -- at least it wasn't announced.  Inflation is biting into the office side too!
Never go full Johnston!

DM83

This Hogan guy is a picture of deadman walking.

Jesse

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 06:44:01 AMAnd still no one has answered:

WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM for a real OC?  None of the real ones are going to work for Hogan money.  And Mafia is already tight to the coach cap.  There is no money!

We'd literally have to rig up one of those BLM "cushy no-show job for the wife" things.  And I'm not saying we wouldn't do that... but you have to be careful on how much you play with the coach cap (cough cough Hall cough Jarious).

Add in the fact that I don't think the coach cap has gone up in like 4 years -- at least it wasn't announced.  Inflation is biting into the office side too!

Mike and Kyle just re-upped. If they did that while knowing they want a new OC, maybe all the contracts were drawn up intentionally.

Also, the 2 candidates we've heard about are Condell (out of a job) and Mike Miller (qb coach). Neither are getting top end money.

And we never get to hear about this because the CFL sucks at transparency, but the coaching cap hasn't just stayed flat all this time. They do get raises too.
My wife is amazing!

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 06:41:23 AMBut it stands to reason.  Assume he's as clueless an OC as everyone here seems to think.  Assume he couldn't draw up a play to save his life.  Wouldn't someone like that be thrilled to accept ideas & advice from everyone?  Especially when he explicitly says that's what he's doing?

Does it? I don't think Hogan is clueless as a coach but I think it's more than fair to say he was in way over his as OC. I doubt he has all the tools in his toolbox to be a competent in that role at this time, and I think that's evidenced by how consistently inept the offense was last season. There also seemed to be a lack of adjustments or changes made to address the deficiencies and issues during the season. It's a big jump from position coach to OC; the latter requires a ton of knowledge.

From what I can tell, there was a glaring lack of cohesiveness with the offense this past season - with everyone involved. I have to wonder if that's what led to Collaros and Oliveira expressing their frustration during the season.

It's just very strange how it all played out. To be clear, I don't think it's all on Hogan. The Mafia gambling on a rookie OC during a GC-hosting campaign was pretty disastrous. All three of them are accountable for that miscalculation, IMO.

As for Jackson, he was brought in to help but then he missed TC. I also never got the impression that he had much involvement or input in the overall offensive system; perhaps that was a byproduct of his missing TC. Maybe I'm completely wrong in that regard but he seemed like a bystander more than anything.
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#79
Quote from: Tecno on Today at 06:39:39 AMThere is precedence for WFC to just dump a coord -- Boudreaux.

But what's Hogan's contract length?  If he's already signed for '26 then we would have coach cap repercussions by outright firing him.  And we all know we wouldn't get relief by some other team picking him up as OC!!

Hogan is on an expiring contract, so it saves MOS the grief of having to fire him, they can just let him walk out the door with his shades and backwards hat.  Mirrors the Rider situation when they hired inexperienced newcomer Kelly Jeffrey as their OC in 2023 and let him walk one year later when they hired Mueller.  Sometimes one year contracts serve their purpose.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on Today at 01:39:34 PMDoes it? I don't think Hogan is clueless as a coach but I think it's more than fair to say he was in way over his as OC. I doubt he has all the tools in his toolbox to be a competent in that role at this time, and I think that's evidenced by how consistently inept the offense was last season. There also seemed to be a lack of adjustments or changes made to address the deficiencies and issues during the season. It's a big jump from position coach to OC; the latter requires a ton of knowledge.

From what I can tell, there was a glaring lack of cohesiveness with the offense this past season - with everyone involved. I have to wonder if that's what led to Collaros and Oliveira expressing their frustration during the season.

It's just very strange how it all played out. To be clear, I don't think it's all on Hogan. The Mafia gambling on a rookie OC during a GC-hosting campaign was pretty disastrous. All three of them are accountable for that miscalculation, IMO.

As for Jackson, he was brought in to help but then he missed TC. I also never got the impression that he had much involvement or input in the overall offensive system; perhaps that was a byproduct of his missing TC. Maybe I'm completely wrong in that regard but he seemed like a bystander more than anything.

If the ship is in peril of sinking, and the first mate does nothing to help avert the disaster because "it's not his job" he likely drowns anyway.  My observation is similar to yours, Jackson is too passive an observer, only when thrown into the fire as the Elks HC in 2024 did he improve the situation and even then they did not consider retaining him the next season, they flushed the tank.

theaardvark

Mike is a perfectly safe name to use today.  Connor, not so much.

I named my daughter Mary 28 years ago, and she has zero contemporaries named Mary... 
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

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Quote from: theaardvark on Today at 07:00:19 PMMike is a perfectly safe name to use today.  Connor, not so much.

I named my daughter Mary 28 years ago, and she has zero contemporaries named Mary... 

I named my son Walter, he's the only one left!

Throw Long Bannatyne

#83
I see on 3DN other teams are beginning to re-sign a bunch of returning players, I think the Ti-Cats have done 5 including Augustine and Ternowski.  Bombers probably holding off until they sort out their OC issue.