Bluebomber OC position discussion

Tecno · December 12, 2025, 04:31:18 PM

I still don't understand where the coaches cap space will come from for a "real" OC... Maybe we'll finally get to learn what the penalty is for going "over".

I wonder what else they can do? Could Hogan stay the "OC" and we bring in legit OC's as "advisors" who basically draw up all the plays and make all the calls, and hide it outside the cap?

Jesse · December 12, 2025, 04:41:22 PM

Quote from: Tecno on December 12, 2025, 04:31:18 PMI still don't understand where the coaches cap space will come from for a "real" OC... Maybe we'll finally get to learn what the penalty is for going "over".

I wonder what else they can do? Could Hogan stay the "OC" and we bring in legit OC's as "advisors" who basically draw up all the plays and make all the calls, and hide it outside the cap?

Say we want to sign Condell. He asks for x, but we can only offer y.

What are his alternatives?

Tecno · December 12, 2025, 04:52:05 PM

Quote from: Jesse on December 12, 2025, 04:41:22 PMSay we want to sign Condell. He asks for x, but we can only offer y.

What are his alternatives?

He'll sit a year and wait for FA27. No way he'll work for the pittance we paid Hogan. I'm guessing Hogan didn't even pull $125k. What does a top OC make? $250-$450k? I'm sure Buck was pulling $350k+ before he left -- he's part of the reason we had to do the Hall/Younger trick.

And here's the thing, Mafia won't even offer Condell (or anyone legit) $125k because that would be insulting. So even if Condell would work for that, he'll never know. It would take Condell calling up KW saying "hey, over here, I'll work for $125k!".

I still don't understand how this will all work out. Even worse, won't we be on the hook for Hogan's OC salary for '26 anyhow under the cap retention rules? The vibe I'm getting is Brady (and maybe Zach & OL guys) are making a stink about not re-signing unless something is done about the bad play design & calling.

Mafia might be in a really tough/tight place right now. I'm not sure there's any good answer. And it's all due to the coach cap. What a stupid invention.

Throw Long Bannatyne · December 12, 2025, 07:19:28 PM

Quote from: Tecno on December 12, 2025, 04:52:05 PMHe'll sit a year and wait for FA27. No way he'll work for the pittance we paid Hogan. I'm guessing Hogan didn't even pull $125k. What does a top OC make? $250-$450k? I'm sure Buck was pulling $350k+ before he left -- he's part of the reason we had to do the Hall/Younger trick.

And here's the thing, Mafia won't even offer Condell (or anyone legit) $125k because that would be insulting. So even if Condell would work for that, he'll never know. It would take Condell calling up KW saying "hey, over here, I'll work for $125k!".

I still don't understand how this will all work out. Even worse, won't we be on the hook for Hogan's OC salary for '26 anyhow under the cap retention rules? The vibe I'm getting is Brady (and maybe Zach & OL guys) are making a stink about not re-signing unless something is done about the bad play design & calling.

Mafia might be in a really tough/tight place right now. I'm not sure there's any good answer. And it's all due to the coach cap. What a stupid invention.

Hogan was on a one year expiring deal, so no penalty. Total football operations budget is around $2.5 million, which includes paying for a lot of bodies when scouts and assistants are taken into consideration. It's up to Walters to budget for all positions, he's not doing his job properly if he runs out of money before he's filled all positions, if properly budgeted he shouldn't have to claw back from other staff.

Big bonus for a coordinator that moves up to HC, likely doubles his salary into $350-$400k range first year. If the opportunity is there, most will leap on it.

blue_or_die · December 12, 2025, 07:30:12 PM

Honest question - where are people getting these salary #s from? I know there's spitballing going on, but even for ballpark, I've literally never heard of a leaked salary for a CFL coach so have no idea what to reference.

Jesse · December 12, 2025, 07:36:02 PM

Quote from: blue_or_die on December 12, 2025, 07:30:12 PMHonest question - where are people getting these salary #s from? I know there's spitballing going on, but even for ballpark, I've literally never heard of a leaked salary for a CFL coach so have no idea what to reference.

They're either completely made up or they're listening to an AI overview from asking google, lol.

Tecno · December 12, 2025, 08:31:18 PM

Quote from: blue_or_die on December 12, 2025, 07:30:12 PMHonest question - where are people getting these salary #s from?

Well, I know where I'm getting my #'s from: straight outta my butt.

You're right, no one really knows because these #'s are really never discussed or leaked.

HOWEVER, we can probably infer an OC salary from the rare leaks we get about HC and combined HC/OC (or HC/DC) salaries. I'm pretty sure guys like C.Jones had semi-accurate numbers leaked. As I recall C.Jones was $600k-ish? Figure these types of guys take a $50k haircut on each job. That would mean a normal HC is about $450k, and a OC $250k? Plus/minus $150k for each for "new/mediocre" vs "vet/great".

Yes, it would be nice if some of these #'s were published...