O'Shea Granted Permission to Interview with Argos

[Jesse]

Here's what I think is happening:

One gets the sense that there is a bit of tension between O'Shea, Walters and Miller.

My reading of the tea leaves is that O'Shea wanted to stretch this core against the judgement of Walters and probably Miller, the former who brought in a bunch of young QBs and probably advocated for a complete overhaul, earlier. That approach was rejected by O'Shea  and the pieces that were aligned to that vision were cut pretty quickly and/or sent to the PR pretty early on in June.

Now we're dealing with egos, a bit of a rift between the three of them and teams courting O'Shea offering more player personnel control, which ya, is the exact message you'd deliver if the above is true and you are thinking strategically.

I'd put some good money on this and it actually aligns with a few things I've heard around. Grain of salt. But I'd stand behind it as the most probable scenario.

So you're saying that O'Shea has the roster control to keep the team he wants and is leaving to gain that same roster control.

FWIW, Jeff Hamilton has consistently reported that MOS has all the control over the roster that he wants. He may leave, but from everything we know about the Bombers organization and from what I read, that won't be one of the reasons why.

[dd]

Ya, sorry, but for me, Kawartha Lakes has got this beat by miles,

[Tecno]

He's never stopped being an Argo and I'll soon be hating him as much as I hate anything Argo. If he goes, good riddance. Thanks for the memories and the opportunity to have new memories beating us some Argo butt!

Yikes, give the man a break and wait until (IF!) he makes the move!  Everyone is just speculating off of very little hard info.  It's all a bit silly.  You don't want to be there with your foot in your mouth when it's announced MOS has signed for 3 more years in WPG!

[Tecno]

Football people are eternal optimists. Somehow Montreal and Ottawa got turned around and likely MOS and Pinball are believers in the same for Toronto.

Ambiguous.  Are we talking "team turned around" or "fan situation turned around".  Former is already done, bad year without a QB notwithstanding.  The latter is the situation that may never be solved.  If 2 cups in 3 years don't pack the (miniscule!) stands, nothing will.

[Tecno]

we all may be shocked that MOS may actually want more of a gm type role that what is believed. head coach/assistant gm??

pinball may want to have a succession plan in place and i don't think it's john murphy so why not MOS?

Ya, but doesn't MOS have all of that here right now?  Some say in FA hirings and cutting/firings.

And wouldn't we have to think that MOS is the "succession plan" for KW, should MOS be interested in that eventually?

My main point being: he doesn't have to move to TOR to get those things.  If he wants them, they are all right here.  And if he doesn't want those things, then they can't be used to argue they are the "main draw" for MOS in TOR!

[Jesse]

Ya, but doesn't MOS have all of that here right now?  Some say in FA hirings and cutting/firings.

And wouldn't we have to think that MOS is the "succession plan" for KW, should MOS be interested in that eventually?

My main point being: he doesn't have to move to TOR to get those things.  If he wants them, they are all right here.  And if he doesn't want those things, then they can't be used to argue they are the "main draw" for MOS in TOR!

Another thing that Jeff Hamilton reported was that, if Wade Miller wants to keep MOS around, he won't be "outbid". If there's more we need to do/give O'Shea, it's going to be available.

And it's the little things that Winnipeg does that Toronto absolutely will not. We provide dinner for all players and their families after every game, for example. The club invests money back into the organization which is not something MLSE is going to sign off on.

Nothing about the Argos meshes with what we know about MOS. Now maybe he would see it as a challenge to create that there, but he simply won't have the ability to control any other organization the way he has impacted the Bombers. Wade vs a private owner simply don't have the same priorities.