O'Shea Granted Permission to Interview with Argos

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

It would be part of TOs pitch to bring him out. They want him to come to Toronto. I wouldn't read into that part of it.

Can't see him going for it, the Argo facilities suck and when he wants to improve the environment for the players sake he's going to get push back from the money grubbers that truly don't give a **** about the team.

[Jesse]

Can't see him going for it, the Argo facilities suck and when he wants to improve the environment for the players sake he's going to get push back from the money grubbers that truly don't give a **** about the team.

I can't think of a single thing Toronto could offer that he doesn't already have here.

[Tecno]

"Easiest way out of the 'Peg is to tank the team bad. The folks there'd be happy to see you go and with Dimwiddie gone, well ..."

Except one fly in the ointment: we all saw Zach's thumb cut in '24.  Let's assume it really was cut and not a ketchup packet in his pocket.  Why bother to get cut when you can just botch some passes?

Ya, the thought of "rigged" did occur to me in '24, but only because the gambling payoff was so massive.  I can't recall what it was but maybe like 5 or 6 to 1 payout if you took TOR?  It's those "can't lose" games that are the best to fix.

In the end I think CFL playoffs are pretty clean.  Nothing has ever jumped out to me screaming "rigged!".  Not like the NFL... like that Falcons SB...

And when CFL is "rigged" (CGY no end call, and #22 on two fake DPIs) it's just reg season and almost always ref folly.  And my money is more on them being "homers" (or just stupid) than gambling fixes.

[Tecno]

Can't see him going for it, the Argo facilities suck

Ya, who would want to go to that place, and then play every week in front of only 5000 fans?

Not to mention, who's to say Argos won't go broke, or sell the team, or move the team, or whatever?  They are only alive because of owner deep pockets and equalization payments.  They probably lose more money than any team.  You want to walk into an org that may not exist as-is in 1 to 3 years??  And if they change owners/whatever you just know the first change made will be fire the HC.

Contrast with the richest team in the league WPG where your job security is 100% as long as KW/WM are happy with you.  MOS has earned many year's grace of total suckage here, with Mafia & the fan base.  He could be 1 & done in the playoffs for the next 2 seasons and it would still be only the same peanut gallery as always calling for his head.

It doesn't make any sense.

[ModAdmin]

A few things that could draw O'Shea one way or the other...

- ties to Toronto,
- ties to Winnipeg,
- opportunity to rebuild Toronto,
- opportunity to re-set in Winnipeg,
- family/friends re-connections in Toronto,
- family/friends connections in Winnipeg,
- money, future opportunities in Toronto,
- money, future opportunities in Winnipeg.

I believe he will consider all of the above.

[Tecno]

We do this to ourselves every other season.  And every time he stays.

LOL

[GOLDMEMBER]

After this past off season failures, I can see why. MOS would have worked closely with Walters and ted g when he was here, I can see MOS getting an interview for the GM position. Given Danny Mac s reluctance to leave Florida, I don't see that changing so maybe MOS gets the GM position and Danny Mac the assistant GM position??

Things look dark in bomberville, very dark.

Well that is like, just your opinion, man!

[GOLDMEMBER]

I can't believe none of you guys have the conspiracy hats on. Sheesh!

First Grey Cup against the Argos "That's a hell of a team you have there Mike but T.O. really needs this cup and you've just won two. Could be something in it down the road for you if you ever wanted to come back home to T.O."

Second Grey Cup against the Argos "That's a hell of a team you have there Mike but T.O. really needs this cup and as much as we appreciate the first one, well, there definitely could be something down the road for you if you ever wanted to come back home to T.O."

"Easiest way out of the 'Peg is to tank the team bad. The folks there'd be happy to see you go and with Dimwiddie gone, well ..."

Just sayin'.  "Queue the Twilight Zone music" ... LOL!

JV been pre gameing hard core eh.

[The Zipp]

from howard berger (toronto sports writer)

NEW: I'm told the #Argos and Mike O'Shea are close to a deal as head coach. Very likely providing Osh lots of authority over personnel. Expect it will be announced after Sunday to not  interfere with the #GreyCup  . But, I'm uncertain about that. Hell of an addition for the Boatmen. #CFL #Leafs #TSN #BlueBombers



we all may be shocked that MOS may actually want more of a gm type role that what is believed. head coach/assistant gm??

pinball may want to have a succession plan in place and i don't think it's john murphy so why not MOS?

prob would have offered dinwiddie a similar role had he stuck around to listen to the argos counter offer

[GOLDMEMBER]

I can't believe none of you guys have the conspiracy hats on. Sheesh!

First Grey Cup against the Argos "That's a hell of a team you have there Mike but T.O. really needs this cup and you've just won two. Could be something in it down the road for you if you ever wanted to come back home to T.O."

Second Grey Cup against the Argos "That's a hell of a team you have there Mike but T.O. really needs this cup and as much as we appreciate the first one, well, there definitely could be something down the road for you if you ever wanted to come back home to T.O."

"Easiest way out of the 'Peg is to tank the team bad. The folks there'd be happy to see you go and with Dimwiddie gone, well ..."

Just sayin'.  "Queue the Twilight Zone music" ... LOL!

He did make many questionable roster decisions and in game decisions especially in Montreal for the ESF.

[Waffler]

Ya, who would want to go to that place, and then play every week in front of only 5000 fans?

Football people are eternal optimists. Somehow Montreal and Ottawa got turned around and likely MOS and Pinball are believers in the same for Toronto.

[Waffler]

the thought of "rigged" did occur to me in '24, but only because the gambling payoff was so massive. 

Hate mail and death threats are everywhere in sports now due to gambling. Even a BC player's wife got one after the west final. Shawn Lemon was caught but he may not be the only one gambling on the games.


good quote:
"That's what I get upset about," Knicks guard Mikal Bridges said. "When I lose someone a bet, (I get hate messages). I don't get anything when I win them a bet.

"Where's my money at?"

[jayrock]

https://3downnation.com/2025/11/12/hamilton-tiger-cats-request-permission-to-speak-to-bombers-mike-oshea-danny-mcmanus-report/

[Pete]

Football people are eternal optimists. Somehow Montreal and Ottawa got turned around and likely MOS and Pinball are believers in the same for Toronto.

Toronto has won 2 grey cups in 5 years, had a exciting albeit controversial qb, a fan favorite gm
Just exactly what is there left to turn around? It is what it is Toronto fans are who we thought they were OShea wont turn them into a successful franchise

[J5V]

Toronto is the darling of the league. They always get what they want because this league just can't imagine itself without Toronto. That being the case I'm sure it was always in the back of MOS's mind that one day he'd work himself back into the big smoke. Winnipeg was always a stop-gap measure, a place to learn his strokes as a HC before seizing the opportunity to head back home. He's never stopped being an Argo and I'll soon be hating him as much as I hate anything Argo. If he goes, good riddance. Thanks for the memories and the opportunity to have new memories beating us some Argo butt!