Dillon Mitchell

Started by Foxhound, October 29, 2025, 02:34:58 AM

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bunker

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 01:48:53 AMHas Mitchell screwed himself off the AR even if Demski is out this week?  And the rest of the post-season?  I understand giving other guys a look in the last game when we decided we didn't care about the outcome, but leaving him off even if he's clearly the "next man up"... boy, you'd really have to screw things up to get that treatment.

Is he even there in civvies at practice?  Or just AWOL?

What a mess.  If we continue in the post-season we may need him as depth if other injuries occur, or if the "other next man up" fails.

Mafia needs to put in place a better pre-signing procedure to ensure this doesn't ever happen again.
Yeah, and they should figure out what went wrong the the Logan and J. Jones signings also. What a waste!

Pigskin

Quote from: bunker on Today at 02:38:11 AMYeah, and they should figure out what went wrong the the Logan and J. Jones signings also. What a waste!

I think Vaughters was the only FA signing that worked out for us. A lot of swing and miss by the Bombers.
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Tecno

Quote from: bunker on Today at 02:38:11 AMYeah, and they should figure out what went wrong the the Logan and J. Jones signings also. What a waste!

At least those guys seem to FIFO.  Mitchell's whole problem is he doesn't FIFO.

And I don't think Logan & J.Jones were a bust.  Logan was here because we had no return game last season, and no one could have known Vaval would be the next Grant.  J.Jones was here purely as insurance against always-injured Kyrie, and/or T.Jones being a bust.  Now that we know, they are expendable, but it doesn't negate the insurance value they provided.

Depth was a problem last season and we spent a lot of resources making sure that didn't happen this year (at REC too, though it still ended up being a problem).
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Jesse

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 04:07:02 AMDepth was a problem last season and we spent a lot of resources making sure that didn't happen this year (at REC too, though it still ended up being a problem).

This is my biggest problem. We spent so much trying to make sure there wasn't a repeat of last year in the receiving core and we're in the exact same place. Hoping for a limping Demski and Wilson to carry the team.
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theaardvark

Mid tier FA's are quite the crap shoot.  High end are less, but so much more money.

We don't often recruit top FA's, and we dabble in the "what if's" of mid tier.  Our best money is spent on recruits and prospects, finding the diamonds in the rough, either ones that have had a cup of coffee in the CFL, or are true rookies with other pro experience.
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bunker

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 04:07:02 AMAt least those guys seem to FIFO.  Mitchell's whole problem is he doesn't FIFO.

And I don't think Logan & J.Jones were a bust.  Logan was here because we had no return game last season, and no one could have known Vaval would be the next Grant.  J.Jones was here purely as insurance against always-injured Kyrie, and/or T.Jones being a bust.  Now that we know, they are expendable, but it doesn't negate the insurance value they provided.

Depth was a problem last season and we spent a lot of resources making sure that didn't happen this year (at REC too, though it still ended up being a problem).
Both of them were paid on a scale of impact import starters. You don't use that kind of money for "depth" in the CFL. That's what scouting is for. For "depth", you find good young Americans down south, or other talented young players from other teams that don't have room to start because of talent playing in front of them. Logan also had an injury history, which is not a great thing in a returner. Walters misspent his SMS money on them, made a bad decision about going with Schoen over Lawler, did not sign a viable #2 QB, held onto a mediocre O-line and D-line even though games are won or lost in the trenches, and extended a 37 year old injury prone QB when he did not necessarily have to. Our scouting has not been great either the last couple of years. We've lost a lot of high end canadian talent, and failed to replace it in the draft. He'll get a mulligan because of all his past success from Miller probably, but it feels like he's lost his edge.

peg_city

Hopefully next year we can find a rookie. We are usually good for a decent rookie receiver every two years.

WR - Wheatfall
SB - Demiski
SB - guy
WR - Wilson
WR - Clercius

dd

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Not sure what the circumstances of the Mitchell situation is but this is going to affect our ability to attract FA to come here as everybody has watched this drama unfold, if I m a FA receiver I d be thinking twice before coming here as they may be sitting on the sidelines wasting away like Mitchell has

And if it was a FIFO issue just cut him to show this club has character  expectations from its players, but to sit him seems we re just torturing him

Jesse

Quote from: dd on Today at 02:38:53 PMNot sure what the circumstances of the Mitchell situation is but this is going to affect our ability to attract FA to come here as everybody has watched this drama unfold, if I m a FA receiver I d be thinking twice before coming here as they may be sitting on the sidelines wasting away like Mitchell has

And if it was a FIFO issue just cut him to show this club has character  expectations from its players, but to sit him seems we re just torturing him

That doesn't make much sense to me. I doubt this is something any FAs are aware of or considering.

Guy gets benched for being bad. Incoming FAs hopefully aren't planning on showing up out of shape.
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theaardvark

Quote from: dd on Today at 02:38:53 PMNot sure what the circumstances of the Mitchell situation is but this is going to affect our ability to attract FA to come here as everybody has watched this drama unfold, if I m a FA receiver I d be thinking twice before coming here as they may be sitting on the sidelines wasting away like Mitchell has

And if it was a FIFO issue just cut him to show this club has character  expectations from its players, but to sit him seems we re just torturing him

I don't think any self respecting rec would take Mitchell's struggles as a negative on this team.

A rec that expects to be handed a starting spot regardless his prep or play when getting slightly above average pay, sure.

Was Mitchell "stealing reps" in preseason?  Doing the things that made Pokey or Dalton stand out?  Did he outhustle Wheatfall?

It could very well have been a single incident that put him in the doghouse, and while his play has been good, it hasn't been "has to be on the roster" good.

We signed him knowing that Lawler was likely not coming back.  The fact that Lawler used him as the reason not to, well... that's on Kenny.

Was Mitchell a whiff?  We will see, he's depth, and this is the time of year that depth becomes either a concern, or a bonus.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: bunker on Today at 01:05:20 PMBoth of them were paid on a scale of impact import starters. You don't use that kind of money for "depth" in the CFL. That's what scouting is for. For "depth", you find good young Americans down south, or other talented young players from other teams that don't have room to start because of talent playing in front of them. Logan also had an injury history, which is not a great thing in a returner. Walters misspent his SMS money on them, made a bad decision about going with Schoen over Lawler, did not sign a viable #2 QB, held onto a mediocre O-line and D-line even though games are won or lost in the trenches, and extended a 37 year old injury prone QB when he did not necessarily have to. Our scouting has not been great either the last couple of years. We've lost a lot of high end canadian talent, and failed to replace it in the draft. He'll get a mulligan because of all his past success from Miller probably, but it feels like he's lost his edge.

Once it was determined they wouldn't be starters in TC, they should have been released and prepared to keep rookie depth.

The problem was advance money spent.
One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 04:50:11 PMOnce it was determined they wouldn't be starters in TC, they should have been released and prepared to keep rookie depth.

The problem was advance money spent.

Only with Mitchell, they should have made the quick decision right out of TC that he wasn't right and Reggie White Jr. was the better option.  Jon Jones and Logan were reasonable bets as they've shown in the past they are high calibre players, unfortunately for them they slotted behind players that played well and stayed healthy.  As is, it's going to be hard to hang onto the LB talent without pushing Kyrie out the door. 


Waffler

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on Today at 05:24:33 PMOnly with Mitchell, they should have made the quick decision right out of TC that he wasn't right and Reggie White Jr. was the better option.
White did stay on the PR for one week. Myron Mitchell also outplayed him by quite a bit.  I remember MOS saying they liked what they saw on film in Edm and wanted to give him a chance to get better. Truthfully you'd see a flash here and there that made you think he could be elite. With hindsight it was a mistake.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Waffler on Today at 05:32:53 PMWhite did stay on the PR for one week. Myron Mitchell also outplayed him by quite a bit.  I remember MOS saying they liked what they saw on film in Edm and wanted to give him a chance to get better. Truthfully you'd see a flash here and there that made you think he could be elite. With hindsight it was a mistake.

Forgot about Myron, he was also a better option although smaller than White, currently on the Ti-Cat PR.

bunker

Quote from: theaardvark on Today at 04:23:40 PMI don't think any self respecting rec would take Mitchell's struggles as a negative on this team.

A rec that expects to be handed a starting spot regardless his prep or play when getting slightly above average pay, sure.

Was Mitchell "stealing reps" in preseason?  Doing the things that made Pokey or Dalton stand out?  Did he outhustle Wheatfall?

It could very well have been a single incident that put him in the doghouse, and while his play has been good, it hasn't been "has to be on the roster" good.

We signed him knowing that Lawler was likely not coming back.  The fact that Lawler used him as the reason not to, well... that's on Kenny.

Was Mitchell a whiff?  We will see, he's depth, and this is the time of year that depth becomes either a concern, or a bonus.
148,000 in hard money. 19 receptions.
Yes he's officially a whiff!