Blue Bombers Transactions - August 17, 2025

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Jesse

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 29, 2025, 10:36:09 PMCooley was given a grand total of 10 rushing attempts on the season. There was never a fair competition between them because of where they were born. If Peterson was born in North Carolina and Cooley was in Alberta, we'd have had a full year of Cooley and Peterson wouldn't have even been invited to a CFL camp.

This is football. You have to make to with the opportunities you get. And they liked Cooley. MOS said you find a way to keep that guy on the roster at the beginning of the season. But he didn't outperform Peterson, so they made they choice.

In Peterson's first game he went 23 for 130 and a TD.

Quote from: Tecno on October 29, 2025, 11:17:16 PMAnd this could probably be considered an "off year" for Brady, because we generally stunk so much.  His value to us would increase if we were having a 2021 year.

I know you put "off year" in quotes. But so many people people are blaming Hogan for not running Brady enough when they only reason Brady's stats are down is because he was injured for 3 games and skipped the last one. He actually had career highs in receiving yards and targets and was on pace for more carries/yards/TDs than last year in the games he played. He would have been close to career highs had he been healthy.
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Quote from: Jesse on October 30, 2025, 09:33:22 AMThis is football. You have to make to with the opportunities you get. And they liked Cooley. MOS said you find a way to keep that guy on the roster at the beginning of the season. But he didn't outperform Peterson, so they made they choice.

In Peterson's first game he went 23 for 130 and a TD.

I know you put "off year" in quotes. But so many people people are blaming Hogan for not running Brady enough when they only reason Brady's stats are down is because he was injured for 3 games and skipped the last one. He actually had career highs in receiving yards and targets and was on pace for more carries/yards/TDs than last year in the games he played. He would have been close to career highs had he been healthy.

BO missed the 1st 3 games if you discount the 1st 4 plays of game 1. Then like many veterans he was rested last week. So it was really a 14 game season on the field. Play calling limited him in other games.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 29, 2025, 10:36:09 PMCooley was given a grand total of 10 rushing attempts on the season. There was never a fair competition between them because of where they were born. If Peterson was born in North Carolina and Cooley was in Alberta, we'd have had a full year of Cooley and Peterson wouldn't have even been invited to a CFL camp.

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What a craptacular timeline.

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Quote from: Jesse on October 30, 2025, 09:33:22 AMThis is football. You have to make to with the opportunities you get. And they liked Cooley. MOS said you find a way to keep that guy on the roster at the beginning of the season. But he didn't outperform Peterson, so they made they choice.

In Peterson's first game he went 23 for 130 and a TD.

Jake Thomas went 9 tackles for 18 games and can you care to guess why he continued to be rostered? Was it because...wait for it...he was born in Canada? Ding. Ding. Ding. It wouldn't have mattered what Cooley did or Peterson did, it really only mattered where they were born. Either would be on the team today solely based on that alone. That's just cold truth.


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Quote from: Blueforlife on October 30, 2025, 12:57:25 AMThis is the CFL, even though you want us to be NFL Jr. we are not and Canadians have the advantage due to the ratio rules and I sure hope that how it will always will be.  Your argument holds no weight imo as that just how the league is structured.

Cooley was good, American RBs at his level are not hard to find.  Peterson at his age is a rare talent to have immediate success.  I don't agree with your assessment of Cooley vs. Peterson.  Both good, need more sample size to make a determination of the talent, effectiveness comparison.  Different types of backs.  I have a lot of faith in Peterson having a decent career in the CFL.  Cooley is likely one and done, which he doesn't deserve but its how it is.

I'm with Techno, TLB and Jesse on this one.

This whole ratio business is so poorly thought out. It isn't even the least bit Canadian.

I argue more Canadians would feel proud and identify with a league that has equal rules for all, where talent and hard work alone is celebrated. A league where it doesn't matter where you are from, if you are good enough, you will be welcomed and find comfort in friends, family and teammates.

Right now we have a league where Canadians are paid more to do less. Have a very unfair advantage over others based solely on birthplace or family lineage.

It's probably the most un-Canadian thing I've ever seen twisted into Canadian values in my life. And it makes the product worse. There is no National Canadian Football team we are training for. If Cooley isn't as good as Peterson, why do we need to give Peterson a half marathon of a head start?

The league will get there eventually because the thinking and logic is flawed.

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What a craptacular timeline.

Sir Blue and Gold

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A few years ago I also got laughter when I said we should move to align more with the US game. Here comes 2026 and 2027.

We're also starting the season even earlier in 2027 as revealed by the Grey Cup announcement in Regina. Wonder why that is? Clearly they're not doing it to overlap more with NHL playoffs so there must be some other motivation.

Let's bookmark this and revisit in a few years once the CBA is renegotiated with the new commissioner and we'll see who's laughing then.

Jesse

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 30, 2025, 04:25:53 PMA few years ago I also got laughter when I said we should move to align more with the US game. Here comes 2026 and 2027.

We're also starting the season even earlier in 2027 as revealed by the Grey Cup announcement in Regina. Wonder why that is? Clearly they're not doing it to overlap more with NHL playoffs so there must be some other motivation.

Let's bookmark this and revisit in a few years once the CBA is renegotiated with the new commissioner and we'll see who's laughing then.

What laughter are you talking about. We are all very much concerned that this is exactly what is happening. That's why we're all upset.

What are you even talking about?
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 30, 2025, 02:10:53 PMThis whole ratio business is so poorly thought out. It isn't even the least bit Canadian.

I argue more Canadians would feel proud and identify with a league that has equal rules for all, where talent and hard work alone is celebrated. A league where it doesn't matter where you are from, if you are good enough, you will be welcomed and find comfort in friends, family and teammates.

Right now we have a league where Canadians are paid more to do less. Have a very unfair advantage over others based solely on birthplace or family lineage.

It's probably the most un-Canadian thing I've ever seen twisted into Canadian values in my life. And it makes the product worse. There is no National Canadian Football team we are training for. If Cooley isn't as good as Peterson, why do we need to give Peterson a half marathon of a head start?

The league will get there eventually because the thinking and logic is flawed.

Absolutely I agree.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 30, 2025, 04:25:53 PMA few years ago I also got laughter when I said we should move to align more with the US game. Here comes 2026 and 2027.

We're also starting the season even earlier in 2027 as revealed by the Grey Cup announcement in Regina. Wonder why that is? Clearly they're not doing it to overlap more with NHL playoffs so there must be some other motivation.

Let's bookmark this and revisit in a few years once the CBA is renegotiated with the new commissioner and we'll see who's laughing then.

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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 30, 2025, 04:25:53 PMA few years ago I also got laughter when I said we should move to align more with the US game. Here comes 2026 and 2027.

We're also starting the season even earlier in 2027 as revealed by the Grey Cup announcement in Regina.

Let's bookmark this and revisit in a few years once the CBA is renegotiated with the new commissioner and we'll see who's laughing then. 

With he blowback on losing the 55 yard line, and polls showing reduced viewership based on that alone, actual movement towards "aligning" with the NFL (ratio, 12 men, waggle, fair catch, 3 downs...) ain't a never gonna happen.

In 5 years, when the cosmetic changes prove out to be improvements and not hurt the CFL game experience, you might see some movement on ratio. 

I'd be all for a change in ratio that makes a "Real Canadian" as someone born in Canada or a citizen that was a resident during his football development years (9-18) and educated at a Canadian school, or a product of Canadian minor football.  Maybe have a Second Tier Canadian that uses current eligibility.  And reduce the Nats to 3RC+3STC starters, and 12RC+6STC on the active roster, with unlimited PR spots for Real Canadians.

"Nationalized Americans" makes no sense.  Unless the player becomes a full time resident, gets his citizenship and has been here a significant time (6 years?), then I'd be OK with a couple Veteran Naturalized Canadians in the STC ratio.

As to 3 downs, or any of the other uniquely Canadian CFL rules, as I said, ain't a never gonna change.
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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 30, 2025, 04:25:53 PMA few years ago I also got laughter when I said we should move to align more with the US game. Here comes 2026 and 2027.

We're also starting the season even earlier in 2027 as revealed by the Grey Cup announcement in Regina. Wonder why that is? Clearly they're not doing it to overlap more with NHL playoffs so there must be some other motivation.

Let's bookmark this and revisit in a few years once the CBA is renegotiated with the new commissioner and we'll see who's laughing then.

You want American football? Watch American football (and I bet you do, as most NFL fans are the ones who support these rules).  I do not.  Leave the CFL Canadian..do not Americanize our beautiful game and field.

Sorry, but I do not feel the same.  I also do not watch the NFL, I love the CFL.  It is far better of a game.  It should have been left alone.

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Quote from: Tecno on October 30, 2025, 01:27:55 AMAnd like someone already said, Peterson is a lock on ELC for 2 years (1 year - 2026 - left).  At least that's what it appears to be...

Was he a '25 DP by HAM and they immediately traded him to us, and thus the original '25 ELC continues on, but now in WPG?

He was cut by the Ti-Cats and resigned, does that void the terms of his rookie contract? 

From Wiki:

"Peterson was selected by the Hamilton Tiger-Cats in the fourth round, with the 36th overall pick, of the 2024 CFL draft. He signed with the team on May 3, 2024. He was released before the start of the 2024 CFL season and returned to Alberta for his final season of U Sports eligibility. Peterson re-signed with the Tiger-Cats on December 9, 2024.  On April 29, 2025, the morning of the CFL draft, Peterson, the second overall pick in the 2025 CFL global draft, and the 39th overall pick in the 2025 CFL draft were traded to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers for Kyle Samson."

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"On June 12, 2025, in Winnipeg's season opener against the BC Lions, Blue Bombers starting running back Brady Oliveira left the game with an injury late in the first quarter. Peterson then made his CFL debut, rushing 23 times for 130 yards and one touchdown as Winnipeg won 34–20. Peterson was named the CFL Running Back of the Week."

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 30, 2025, 02:10:53 PMThis whole ratio business is so poorly thought out. It isn't even the least bit Canadian.

I argue more Canadians would feel proud and identify with a league that has equal rules for all, where talent and hard work alone is celebrated. A league where it doesn't matter where you are from, if you are good enough, you will be welcomed and find comfort in friends, family and teammates.

Right now we have a league where Canadians are paid more to do less. Have a very unfair advantage over others based solely on birthplace or family lineage.

It's probably the most un-Canadian thing I've ever seen twisted into Canadian values in my life. And it makes the product worse. There is no National Canadian Football team we are training for. If Cooley isn't as good as Peterson, why do we need to give Peterson a half marathon of a head start?

The league will get there eventually because the thinking and logic is flawed.
Disagree with exactly everything you state.  You simply don't like the structure of this great league.  I believe the ratio rules are critical to keep this truly a Canadian game and ensures the strong ties to our communities and Universities.  It allows Canadians to dream and play in the great league.  Now we just have to fix the business side.  We have built a traditional of many generations on how we have structured this great league.

You describe the NFL, its an option if you don't like this game.  We are ok with that. 

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 30, 2025, 03:35:05 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself.

Quote from: ModAdmin on October 30, 2025, 06:07:46 AMAgain, nope.  As you have stated numerous times we agree to disagree - on numerous levels.
Turning a young stud RB into a receiver is a terrible idea, yup.

Signing / retaining him is a real possibility, again yup.

Keeping him as a RB is the most logical and likely outcome.  Check.

Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 30, 2025, 05:59:03 PMHe was cut by the Ti-Cats and resigned, does that void the terms of his rookie contract? 

That's interesting!  Then I think it would all depend on what the terms of the 2nd HAM signing are.  If it is 2 year, signed around FA25, then we don't worry about it until FA27.  And one would think that HAM would have tied this guy down to a 2 year?  Why give him the luxury of only a 1 year?

Guess it will take someone privy to contract terms to tell us.  Or we wait to see if he's a pending FA when the lists start coming out.
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