Injuries

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I don't know where the blame lies. But someone has to protect these players from themselves. And we are not doing that.

It really goes back to 2019 and probably before, when they allowed Strev to play on a broken ankle, the guy could barely walk. In that interview with Strev posted in the video thread, he talks about how he fooled the training staff by refusing to show how much pain he was in at the time.  Can't blame the player, they know their football career is their golden goose and without that opportunity they don't have much else to fall back on.

[Ducky]

Streveller update:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-bombers-cfl-9.6963972

Streveler said Sunday he re-tore the anterior cruciate ligament and the meniscus in his left knee. Last year, he had the ACL and medial collateral ligament repaired, plus the posterior cruciate ligament was damaged.

"Thankfully, my MCL and PCL were intact," Streveler said of the latest injury. "That's the bright side of things. I don't even know if heartbreaking does it justice."

He plans surgery soon and then rehab, but added he tried to get ready to play in the East final.

When his knee swelled after running, he knew it was a pipe dream.

The meniscus is potentially worse depending how badly it is damaged. It is the layer that stops the knee from being bone on bone.

You can definitely play without a meniscus (they just remove the torn bit if it is floating). Long term will lead to arthritis. Short term requires anti-inflammatories and tylenol.

If the ACL is done then he is done. 

[theaardvark]

Why did CS17 stop using the brace? 

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Why did CS17 stop using the brace? 

Self-diagnosis + FREEDOM!

[Tecno]

Why did CS17 stop using the brace?

Needed speed going into the post-season.  And he was faster without it.  The "Strev package" was pretty useless when he was slow with the brace.

Let's give him credit, he risked it all to put full effort in for his team and us.  Don't chastise him for it.  He's an adult, it's his decision and gamble.  It just didn't pay off.

[Tecno]

I was doing a bit of research into rehabilitation time for athletes who injure their knee ligaments, and while one-year is the previous minimum, there's growing evidence to suggest you need closer to two years.

Except after 2 years not on the field your career is probably over and no one will remember your name.  Like you're going to sit out FA and say "no one pay me this year, I'll wait until next".  The only person immune to this would be a top-5 QB (like Kelly) and maybe a top-3 REC... maybe.

The business dictates that after knee injuries you need to come back within a year and just risk it.  50/50 you'll probably be ok.  Most young men will take those odds.

[Tecno]

Just got home yesterday, going through all the stuff, forum, videos.

Did anyone catch at the very last 2s of the MOS post-game he said that Demski "was close" when asked how close he was to playing.  Interesting.

Edit: And Demski in his post-game said "super close", that he just couldn't sprint hard.

If it was me, I would have played him.  Do or die, doesn't matter if he gets a hammy because now he has 8 months to recover, which is more than enough time no matter how bad it is.  And the "next game" doesn't matter because a) it's HAM (an easy out) and b) we'd be no worse off than if he was still not playing.  The only downside is if he starts then re-hammies in the 1st or something.  Would need a full half out of him.  And with either Corcoran or Cobb dressing anyhow, we'd be no worse off even if that happened.

[Waffler]

Demski in his post-game said "super close", that he just couldn't sprint hard.

If it was me, I would have played him.

For once they did the right thing. If he can't sprint he can't go deep, can't even chase a close ball on a short route. He surely would have been out of the game early. Once he decides to give that extra effort his small muscle tear becomes a big muscle tear.

[theaardvark]

Except after 2 years not on the field your career is probably over and no one will remember your name.  Like you're going to sit out FA and say "no one pay me this year, I'll wait until next".  The only person immune to this would be a top-5 QB (like Kelly) and maybe a top-3 REC... maybe.

The business dictates that after knee injuries you need to come back within a year and just risk it.  50/50 you'll probably be ok.  Most young men will take those odds.

JT19 says "Hi".

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

JT19 says "Hi".

Who are you referring to?

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Just got home yesterday, going through all the stuff, forum, videos.

Did anyone catch at the very last 2s of the MOS post-game he said that Demski "was close" when asked how close he was to playing.  Interesting.

Edit: And Demski in his post-game said "super close", that he just couldn't sprint hard.

If it was me, I would have played him.  Do or die, doesn't matter if he gets a hammy because now he has 8 months to recover, which is more than enough time no matter how bad it is.  And the "next game" doesn't matter because a) it's HAM (an easy out) and b) we'd be no worse off than if he was still not playing.  The only downside is if he starts then re-hammies in the 1st or something.  Would need a full half out of him.  And with either Corcoran or Cobb dressing anyhow, we'd be no worse off even if that happened.

So you'd sacrifice Demski to win the first playoff game when they have 2 remaining?

[theaardvark]

Who are you referring to?

Johnathon Toews 19 - NHL Jets

[blue_gold_84]

Johnathon Toews 19 - NHL Jets

Toews didn't suffer back-to-back season-ending knee injuries and the ensuing surgery and rehabilitation.

That's a pretty bad comparison.

[theaardvark]

Toews didn't suffer back-to-back season-ending knee injuries and the ensuing surgery and rehabilitation.

That's a pretty bad comparison.

I was referring to the "Out of the league for 2 years, and no one will remember your name" comment...

[blue_gold_84]

I was referring to the "Out of the league for 2 years, and no one will remember your name" comment...

But Toews' name was never forgotten during his time away from hockey.