Official Game Day Thread - Saskatchewan at Winnipeg, October 17, 2025

[Tecno]

The first half was terrible to watch, and made worse by sitting alone and having some seat vagabonds squatting it the seats behind me and having some very annoying and very loud discussions. 

How on earth are there "seat vagabonds" in Pinnacle?  I thought you needed proof of Pinnacle tickets to get in the door?

As for "loud discussions", if it was about football, then that's the whole point of going to games!  If they were discussing Taylor Swift's love life, then ya, I feel ya.

[dd]

Tommy Condell might be available next year, I never cared for his disregard for the running game but apparently Zach likes him.

I can see that happening. Hogan back to RB coach, JJ to Qb coach and Condell OC

[Jesse]

We were debating whether to take my 6yo daughter.  10C is around the cut off without going full snowpants, etc.  But we decided to try, plopped on 4 layers (top and bottom -- no snowpants).

Worked out great.  Barely noticed the rain from our covered 200-level spot, and our Bomber bucket hats.  More than warm enough, too.  My point being... tell your seat-mates that if a 6yo can do it...

Glad we went.  Was a nice time, overall.  Even went on-field after.

Meh. It's for entertainment. If you're not going to enjoy it, stay home.

[Waffler]

I still support Zach.  Give him a real OL, then I'll re-evaluate my stance.

You did see how many times Zach got creamed in this game, right?  You did see how many times a short delay or little stunt let a pass rusher go straight to Zach, right?

I did and it means absolutely nothing to me. I evaluate his skills as a passer and runner and judge him against his peers in the league. I said in the "ugly" thread how different, how much more successful we would be with Rourke throwing darts and dropping dimes as they say. Zach is no longer capable. When watching those two operate back to back the difference is jarring. Even Adams put him to shame Saturday night.

If we follow your line of thinking that it is everyone's fault EXCEPT Zach, I am 100% sure we will have the first overall pick in spring of 2027. I really am of the opinion that any kind of quality quarterbacking gets us in the fight with the top teams rather than being the sacrificial lamb holding down the crossover.

Maybe you'd be willing to rate the starting passers 1 to 9 here?  On CFL.ca they have Zach at 7th. I think myself he should be at 10th.

[bomb squad]

I did and it means absolutely nothing to me. I evaluate his skills as a passer and runner and judge him against his peers in the league. I said in the "ugly" thread how different, how much more successful we would be with Rourke throwing darts and dropping dimes as they say. Zach is no longer capable. When watching those two operate back to back the difference is jarring. Even Adams put him to shame Saturday night.

If we follow your line of thinking that it is everyone's fault EXCEPT Zach, I am 100% sure we will have the first overall pick in spring of 2027. I really am of the opinion that any kind of quality quarterbacking gets us in the fight with the top teams rather than being the sacrificial lamb holding down the crossover.

Maybe you'd be willing to rate the starting passers 1 to 9 here?  On CFL.ca they have Zach at 7th. I think myself he should be at 10th.

Of the qb's still playing, I would rank Collaros 4th behind Rourke, Alexander, & Adams. Still better than all the others (yes, including Harris). He needs better stuff to work with.

[gordo]

I did and it means absolutely nothing to me. I evaluate his skills as a passer and runner and judge him against his peers in the league. I said in the "ugly" thread how different, how much more successful we would be with Rourke throwing darts and dropping dimes as they say. Zach is no longer capable. When watching those two operate back to back the difference is jarring. Even Adams put him to shame Saturday night.

If we follow your line of thinking that it is everyone's fault EXCEPT Zach, I am 100% sure we will have the first overall pick in spring of 2027. I really am of the opinion that any kind of quality quarterbacking gets us in the fight with the top teams rather than being the sacrificial lamb holding down the crossover.

Maybe you'd be willing to rate the starting passers 1 to 9 here?  On CFL.ca they have Zach at 7th. I think myself he should be at 10th.

I guess that explains why we have only one guy in the top 27 receivers in the league (yards).  Demski is 8th then Wheatfall at 28th. Sad bunch of receivers compared to years past. Injuries didn't help but terrible signings and not unearthing any star imports was a problem.

Hate to add to all the negativity but those receiver stats are revealing. Blame the O-line, blame Collaros, blame Hogan, but they don't run routes, catch the ball, get open.  Our receivers don't execute like the top echelon in the league.

But hey the weather was fine -I've sat through alot worse. And yes the win was ugly but string together a couple more ugly ones against some beatable teams followed by just one more stellar Zach outing and we win the cup.

[TBURGESS]

Of the qb's still playing, I would rank Collaros 4th behind Rourke, Alexander, & Adams. Still better than all the others (yes, including Harris). He needs better stuff to work with.

At this point, I'd take Tre Ford over Collaros even though he can't read a defence.

[dd]

At this point, I'd take Tre Ford over Collaros even though he can't read a defence.

With how porous and poor our O line is, and how bad our recievers are, it would actually make sense to have Ford in there to run the ball and make plays on his own, as the Qb has ZERO support and help from the rest of his offense.

Our offense is the worst in the league by a country mile.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

With how porous and poor our O line is, and how bad our recievers are, it would actually make sense to have Ford in there to run the ball and make plays on his own, as the Qb has ZERO support and help from the rest of his offense.

Our offense is the worst in the league by a country mile.

That plan is not worth pursuing, if Ford can't learn to play QB, he'll end up a receiver or DB like his brother.

[Pete]

With how porous and poor our O line is, and how bad our recievers are, it would actually make sense to have Ford in there to run the ball and make plays on his own, as the Qb has ZERO support and help from the rest of his offense.

Our offense is the worst in the league by a country mile.

in watching our oline, it seems like on a pass play they are all back pedaling way too much.
the dline makes contact and they are already surrounding Collaros. Plus they have all the momentum and just push our oline backwards rapidly I'll admit I don't know a lot about blocking mechanics,  but it seems like Zac has no time from the get go, shouldn't he be taking a deeper drop? Either that or our olinemen are being continuously outmuscled
badly.
Zac then ties to step up but there is no pocket or he doesn't trust it and and ends up tackled as he tries to break out.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

in watching our oline, it seems like on a pass play they are all back pedaling way too much.
the dline makes contact and they are already surrounding Collaros. Plus they have all the momentum and just push our oline backwards rapidly I'll admit I don't know a lot about blocking mechanics,  but it seems like Zac has no time from the get go, shouldn't he be taking a deeper drop? Either that or our olinemen are being continuously outmuscled
badly.
Zac then ties to step up but there is no pocket or he doesn't trust it and and ends up tackled as he tries to break out.

I think the O-line gets beaten often enough by speed and deception, but seldom do they get overpowered except for maybe Kola who seems almost undersized for his position.

[dd]

in watching our oline, it seems like on a pass play they are all back pedaling way too much.
the dline makes contact and they are already surrounding Collaros. Plus they have all the momentum and just push our oline backwards rapidly I'll admit I don't know a lot about blocking mechanics,  but it seems like Zac has no time from the get go, shouldn't he be taking a deeper drop? Either that or our olinemen are being continuously outmuscled
badly.
Zac then ties to step up but there is no pocket or he doesn't trust it and and ends up tackled as he tries to break out.

Our O line routtinely get out muscled, that is the problem. They are as porous as can be.

[Pete]

I think the O-line gets beaten often enough by speed and deception, but seldom do they get overpowered except for maybe Kola who seems almost undersized for his position.

how many times last game did we see Zac trying to push his way up the middle cause the pocket is collapsing all around him? Id like to see him take a few extra steps back to give him that extra few seconds.
 But you right also - they have a rusher come from the outside like brooks and it totally confuses our tackles,
do we have a hot route? If so Zac cant seem to find it or like most of Hogans schemes its just not there

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Our O line routtinely get out muscled, that is the problem. They are as porous as can be.

I mostly watch Wallace, nobody has out muscled or pancaked him yet, he's a physical beast.  Should probably lay off those 54 oz steaks though as he's slow as hell.

[dd]

I mostly watch Wallace, nobody has out muscled or pancaked him yet, he's a physical beast.  Should probably lay off those 54 oz steaks though as he's slow as hell.

You're right he's as slow as molasses, so while he doesn't get beat physically they usually rush around him like he's a pylon. He's been a down grade from Dobson