Official Game Day Thread - Winnipeg at Edmonton, October 11, 2025

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Throw Long Bannatyne

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Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 02:35:47 AMParker also did very well today.  (Though was he looking like he might be tweaking injuries again?)

If Parker is 100% healthy, I'm thinking long & hard about starting him instead of Allen or Lawson.  MOS does give extra credit to the longtime vets.


Lawson earned his retention for next TC but Parker probably gets the nod for the rest of this season due to time put in and leadership.  Depending how the cookie crumbles in the off-season and who they might lose, Lawson has a good chance of becoming a starter. I think Vaval will prosper as a fulltime returner with occasional backup DB duty. Bye-bye Logan, sorry he didn't get a better chance to make his mark.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 12, 2025, 02:50:54 AMLawson earned his retention for next TC but Parker probably gets the nod for the rest of this season due to time put in and leadership.  Depending how the cookie crumbles in the off-season and who they might lose, Lawson has a good chance of becoming a starter. I think Vaval will prosper as a fulltime returner with occasional backup DB duty. Bye-bye Logan, sorry he didn't get a better chance to make his mark.

Neither Lawson or Parker are great and it probably wouldn't be hard to upgrade either or both next year. It's also true that both of those guys would look better in a system that asked less of them also.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 02:41:54 AMMitchell has been a total bust. We replaced lawler with this guy?? Really?? He's not even a #3 receiver let alone #1, what on earth was Walter's thinking?? We have never recovered from losing lawler and won't until we spend some $$ and get a true #1 receiver back here

Not going to blame any receivers when Zach plays terribly, under throws deep shots and throws to guys already covered by the time he releases the ball. Having trouble converting second and ten?  Maybe don't throw 40 yard in-completions on 1st down consecutively series after series in desperation to move the ball.

He had over a half to get his act together and came up impotent, other than one fluke TD to Pokey.  At this point he's ripping the team off for $600K+ per season, they have to find a way to get out of that contract and move on before next season.

Tecno

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 03:03:38 AMNeither Lawson or Parker are great and it probably wouldn't be hard to upgrade either or both next year.

But only internally/scouting.  We never spring for a big $ DB, not for 4 seasons at least.  We're the ones who let big DBs walk to other teams for more $.

That said, we can usually scout a good one once a year.
Never go full Johnston!

Sir Blue and Gold

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Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 03:09:04 AMBut only internally/scouting.  We never spring for a big $ DB, not for 4 seasons at least.  We're the ones who let big DBs walk to other teams for more $.

That said, we can usually scout a good one once a year.


I'd say the jury is still out on whether we can scout corners under JY's scheme. Houston is probably good enough and  Ford last year was just so much more athletic than anyone this year but outside of that I'm really not sure. When you have to cover for as long as those guys do I really don't know what to scout for.

You need Champ Bailey and Darrelle Revis in their prime. 

dd

Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 03:09:04 AMBut only internally/scouting.  We never spring for a big $ DB, not for 4 seasons at least.  We're the ones who let big DBs walk to other teams for more $.

That said, we can usually scout a good one once a year.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 12, 2025, 03:07:27 AMNot going to blame any receivers when Zach plays terribly, under throws deep shots and throws to guys already covered by the time he releases the ball. Having trouble converting second and ten?  Maybe don't throw 40 yard in-completions on 1st down consecutively series after series in desperation to move the ball.

He had over a half to get his act together and came up impotent, other than one fluke TD to Pokey.  At this point he's ripping the team off for $600K+ per season, they have to find a way to get out of that contract and move on before next season.
Ya he's not MOP $600 k Zach more like middle of the road $450k Zach and pick a spot where you want to deploy the $$ saved-DT, #1 WR, O line

Cool Spot

Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 02:41:54 AMMitchell has been a total bust. We replaced lawler with this guy?? Really?? He's not even a #3 receiver let alone #1, what on earth was Walter's thinking?? 
I think the idea was to replace Lawler with Dalton Schoen, and then spend the money elsewhere. However, with Schoen being injured so often, the plan didn't work out.

Doublezero

Honestly: Bombers 8-8 record flatters them. Also, Elks obviously are better than their 7-9 record. Also, hate losing to Fajardo.
Just gimme the rock.

Pigskin

When was the last time that the two teams that played in Grey Cup the previous year didn't make the playoffs.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

Horseman

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 12, 2025, 02:50:54 AMBye-bye Logan, sorry he didn't get a better chance to make his mark.


He will now with Vavel being injured this game.

Horseman


Tecno

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 03:13:19 AMI'd say the jury is still out on whether we can scout corners under JY's scheme. Houston is probably good enough and  Ford last year was just so much more athletic than anyone this year but outside of that I'm really not sure. When you have to cover for as long as those guys do I really don't know what to scout for.

The "can't cover for 10 seconds" thing wasn't much of a problem tonight.  Even though we didn't get pressure on Cody, most of his routes were quick hitters anyhow.  Other teams, yes, EDM, not so much.

That said, there has to be some "there there" with the no-pressure plan.  We have to assume Younger, Hall & MOS aren't dumb.
Never go full Johnston!

Sir Blue and Gold

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Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 05:49:59 AMThe "can't cover for 10 seconds" thing wasn't much of a problem tonight.  Even though we didn't get pressure on Cody, most of his routes were quick hitters anyhow.  Other teams, yes, EDM, not so much.

That said, there has to be some "there there" with the no-pressure plan.  We have to assume Younger, Hall & MOS aren't dumb.


Don't get it twisted.

Cody took his time when he wanted and he threw it quick when he wanted. In both cases, he dictated to us, not the other way around.

If you want to know the difference, Zach's night was filled with getting the ball out or getting hit which led to mistakes and turnovers.

Our defensive backs, especially the corners have to provide a ton of cushion because whatever elaborate route that's being run at them is more than likely two or three actions. That gets exhausting. And it's almost impossible to be aggressive as evidenced by our interceptions from the corner spots over 16 games. They are simply need to play too far back and too safely to be much of a threat.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 02:35:47 AMParker also did very well today.  (Though was he looking like he might be tweaking injuries again?)

If Parker is 100% healthy, I'm thinking long & hard about starting him instead of Allen or Lawson.  MOS does give extra credit to the longtime vets.


I think Allen has played better at safety then Parker did but it's another choice that could be made.
One game at a time.

markf

Three D lineman has worked well for the last few years, but I think the formula for beating it has been found by the other teams. Quick passes, and last night , outside runs.

How many plays do they have three linemen? It seems like a lot. So when we're complaining about no sacks, or no tackles by The tackles, maybe the coaches aren't expecting them to make a lot of tackles or get a lot of Sacks. Five o linemen, three d linemen, not going to get a lot of sacks.

But the D played well enough to win.

Somebody said Corcoran was open for a first down on the final Zach long pass interception, did anyone see that?

Zach has always had some Hero ball tendencies, looks like the days of it working are over. Maybe Jarious didn't want the O coordinator job.