Bombers @ Elks

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Receivers at the level of Woli are available every off season in free agency. Perhaps Corcoran can achieve that level next year or the last year of his ELC. He needs to show improvement going into 2026 or could face being replaced.

Canadian back ups that don't also play on ST's need to progress year to year. We'll see what his future brings.

Woli was a good blocker and reliable receiver but the thing that kept him in the league for so long other than the ratio was reading the QB's mind and knowing where to be when.  That's not a skill many receivers can tap into without years of experience.  If Corcoran can contribute on ST he has the chance to hang around on the fringe and maybe figure it out eventually.  Hoping they shop for a Natl. receiver in FA next year, preferably a big one like McInnis.

[RebusRankin]

That's not saying very much given Corcoran's tiny output so far.  Both got very few targets in rookie year, probably both were the last read any given snap.

I'm going to say it slowly. Even as a rookie, Demski was more productive as a receiver. Demski also was used as a returner as a rookie and was productive. So overall, even rookie Demski was more productive than rookie Corcoran.

Then if you go deeper and realize that Corcoran is slow (see his 40 time at the combine), not agile (see his 3 cone time at the combine) and is not a leaper (see his vertical at the combine) and his upside is fairly limited.

[RebusRankin]

Cocoran was the one wide open receiver that CS17 was able to find in his 3 completion start, so his "getting open" ability is there.

He has been targeted 10 times, caught 9 of them. So, "good hands"?

He's a raw rookie, his blocking at a pro level in the CFL will be something they will be working on.  But no reason he can't do it.

Is he Nic Demski today?  Nope.  Not even close.  But unless we continue to develop him, he never will be.  He's a year behind Clercius in development, adapting to the CFL game is not something that comes instantly, but he seems to be progressing just fine.  5th rec has been a place to hide a development/fringe NAT player in the CFL... 

Good teams aren't hiding fringe NAT at the 5th WR spot. Look at BC, Eberhardt is the 5th receiver. Hamilton's 5th guy is Bolo. Calgary's is Tevin Jones.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Again, compare rookie Demski to rookie Corcoran, not today's Demski to rookie Corcoran.  If you are saying you remember "watching [Demski] play" in his rookie year and paid attention to a rookie nobody NAT dressed in green -- I'm not sure I believe you!  I certainly didn't pay him any attention!

I actually do remember watching Demski's rookie season with the Riders, the Bomber fan base was quite unhappy he ended up playing in Regina and were disappointed in Addison Richards who I don't think ever played in a game.  Riderfans didn't appreciate Demski at all, they mostly complained he juked too often instead of heading directly up field on punt returns.

[Pigskin]

2015 Demski: 13/17, 165 yards, 12.7 avg. Longest 72 yards.

2016 Demski: 37/60, 338 yards, 9.1 avg. Longest 53 yards, 2 TDs.

2025 Corcoran: 9/10, 76 yards, 8.4 avg. Longest 24 yards.

2017 Woli. 1/3, 15 yards, 15 avg. Longest. 15 yards.

2018 Woli. 45/60, 650 yards, 14.4 avg. Longest 60 yards. 5 TDs. 

Lets see how Corcoran develops.

[RebusRankin]

2015 Demski: 13/17, 165 yards, 12.7 avg. Longest 72 yards.

2016 Demski: 37/60, 338 yards, 9.1 avg. Longest 53 yards, 2 TDs.

2025 Corcoran: 9/10, 76 yards, 8.4 avg. Longest 24 yards.

2017 Woli. 1/3, 15 yards, 15 avg. Longest. 15 yards.

2018 Woli. 45/60, 650 yards, 14.4 avg. Longest 60 yards. 5 TDs. 

Lets see how Corcoran develops.

Demski was a first round pick and highly touted. Woli played NCAA D1 in the Big 10. Corcoran is a 5th rounder with weak measurables across the board. Good chance he never develops into much. Most 5th rounders don't.

[Tecno]

I'm going to say it slowly. Even as a rookie, Demski was more productive as a receiver. Demski also was used as a returner as a rookie and was productive. So overall, even rookie Demski was more productive than rookie Corcoran.

And I'll repeat what I said slowly.  165Y vs 76Y is nothing to write home about.  It's basically the same thing: virtually nothing.  It's pointless to say that "whoa! Demski doubled Corcoran's yardage!".

Plus, was Demski just a dressed backup, or did he start many/most games that season?  Corcoran doesn't get targets because he's basically only on the field if someone gets hurt.

Demski 13/17, Corcoran 9/10.  Hmmm... there's at least one stat that says Corcoran had a better start than Demski!

I'm not arguing Demski's rookie year versatility, or nitpicking combine stats.  But it's not reality to say Demski was putting up the huge yards or % in his rookie year either.

[Tecno]

Riderfans didn't appreciate Demski at all, they mostly complained he juked too often instead of heading directly up field on punt returns.

Whenever Demski lights one up Riderfans still complain about his "dancing" when in green.  They swear he was never fast, slippery, or good when in green.  Maybe they are right!

[Jesse]

And I'll repeat what I said slowly.  165Y vs 76Y is nothing to write home about.  It's basically the same thing: virtually nothing.  It's pointless to say that "whoa! Demski doubled Corcoran's yardage!".

That's also ignoring Demski's rushing, punt return, and kick return yardage.

You've already admitted you didn't realize their draft value was so different. Demski was drafted to be a starter. Corcoran was drafted to be a special teamer/deep depth for as long as he can hold on to one of the final roster spots.

[Pete]

Really dont get the comparison to Demski, maybe Clercius but again hes slower
 Saying he could be as good as Wolitarski if we develop him isnt really that much of a goal. With the way cdn receivers are improving it would be much more benificial to draft one with the tools and athletiicism such as Emilus, Philpot, Mcinnis, Shafer baker, Ajou, Julien Grant, the list goes on and unfortunately Corocans not on it

[TBURGESS]

Today's game is Huuuge. The Elks are better than their record and have been highly competitive in the last few games. They are 2 minutes short of three more wins against Hamilton, Sask & Toronto. They need this game to have any chance at the playoffs this year. I expect them to compete hard at least for 58 minutes of the game. 

[Blue In BC]

Today's game is Huuuge. The Elks are better than their record and have been highly competitive in the last few games. They are 2 minutes short of three more wins against Hamilton, Sask & Toronto. They need this game to have any chance at the playoffs this year. I expect them to compete hard at least for 58 minutes of the game.

We also lost 2 games by a combined 5 points IIRC. Most teams have won or lost a game in the last few moments of games.

Bombers lost to the Stamps 28-27. That's the difference between being in 2nd place at the moment and the reality of 4th place. Most of the teams have similar what if's scenarios in their win / loss record.  It's the nature of the game. One or two plays if often the difference between winning an losing.

[Blueforlife]

Really dont get the comparison to Demski, maybe Clercius but again hes slower
 Saying he could be as good as Wolitarski if we develop him isnt really that much of a goal. With the way cdn receivers are improving it would be much more benificial to draft one with the tools and athletiicism such as Emilus, Philpot, Mcinnis, Shafer baker, Ajou, Julien Grant, the list goes on and unfortunately Corocans not on it

Woli was very consistent and good asset and having Canadians get to that level is a big asset imo.  Yes we have seen the star Cdn receiver on other clubs which is nice but not the long term norm.

[TBURGESS]

We also lost 2 games by a combined 5 points IIRC. Most teams have won or lost a game in the last few moments of games.

Bombers lost to the Stamps 28-27. That's the difference between being in 2nd place at the moment and the reality of 4th place. Most of the teams have similar what if's scenarios in their win / loss record.  It's the nature of the game. One or two plays if often the difference between winning an losing.

With the Elks it's been 3 games in a row that they were winning at the 58-minute mark. Then they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. 

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Where's Snitzy?  No Bonfire pre-game show with Walby, Bauming moving onto the Jets and dropping the ball on the Bombers?