Bombers @ Elks

Started by Pigskin, October 02, 2025, 06:12:42 PM

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Blue In BC

Quote from: Tecno on October 08, 2025, 10:06:39 PMBut didn't he literally just get reinjured in his first game back the other week?  Hasn't he been bouncing on/off the IR all season?

I'm not consigning him to the Biggie IR scrapheap just yet, but if I'm picking my GC AR tomorrow, I'm thinking long and hard whether Parker can actually finish that game.

That's why I want to see him start & finish basically every remaining reg season game, starting now.  Otherwise, let's keep beefing up Lawson & Allen with live reps.

You have a reasonable point. I just don't know what the outcome will be. Another possible injury replacement can be made by how we decide on our DI's beyond who is starting.

To that end I've suggested Lawson would be preferable to retain on the AR for the moment. Even that is clouded if Griffin is able to return before the end of the regular season.

Using Vaval as the primary back up at CB is not the preferred choice.

Each of the remaining games may be the equivalent of a play off fight. IIRC, if we defeat the Elks we're in but that may be in the west or a crossover. In that sense a victory takes the heat off somewhat, but not totally.

I'd like to see the Stamps blow another game and that would help as well.
One game at a time.

dd

Quote from: bunker on October 08, 2025, 02:28:28 AMJake Thomas 15 games 9 defensive tackles
Cameron Lawson 9 games, 16  defensive tackles
Jamal Woods 1 game, 2 defensive tackles
Devin Adams 10 games, 9 defensive tackles
Colin Kornelson 9 games, 3 defensive tackles
Tanner Schmekel 4 games, 2 defensive tackles

In comparison, Sayles has 29 in 15 games
Myles Fox has 24 in 16 games
Shawn Oakman has 24 in 16 games

All 3 are American though. We also may play a different defense (3 man front) that gives less opportunity to interior linemen to make tackles. Make of the stats what you will.

Those are ugly stats. Good thing we let both Sayles and Fox go from here, heck, what would we do if our DT's were making 24 tackels in 16 games instead of 3. And our DT's aren't our weakness, ya whatever!!!

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#62
As of October 8, only Nic Demski and Michael Griffin did not practice and Demski's absence was not injury related.

Vanterpool, Parker, Wheatfall Logan and Kolankowski all participated in the full practice. Indications are we should be pretty healthy for the Edmonton game.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 08, 2025, 11:33:22 PMYou have a reasonable point. I just don't know what the outcome will be. Another possible injury replacement can be made by how we decide on our DI's beyond who is starting.

To that end I've suggested Lawson would be preferable to retain on the AR for the moment. Even that is clouded if Griffin is able to return before the end of the regular season.

Using Vaval as the primary back up at CB is not the preferred choice.

Each of the remaining games may be the equivalent of a play off fight. IIRC, if we defeat the Elks we're in but that may be in the west or a crossover. In that sense a victory takes the heat off somewhat, but not totally.


A log jam is forming at the OLB positions, Kyrie, Griffin, Ayers, Woodbey can all play WIL and Kramdi, Griffin and Woodbey can all play SAM.  This is going to be tough to sort out next season without losing anyone, probably impossible.  Kramdi is the light weight at 189 lbs, he isn't really built to take on the heavier running backs and probably wouldn't ever admit it but his tackling form isn't particularly good.

In order to keep the most Import players in play, I'd like to see Kramdi moved to primary Safety in place of Allen, who can probably play any of the DB positions eventually, potentially even replacing Nichols or Holm at HB if lost in FA or as a cost savings move.  It would also be a good way to extend Kramdi's career with Smith and Shay quickly moving into positions to surpass him on the depth chart.

Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 09, 2025, 02:56:07 AMA log jam is forming at the OLB positions, Kyrie, Griffin, Ayers, Woodbey can all play WIL and Kramdi, Griffin and Woodbey can all play SAM.

Good thing WILL is usually a low paid position.  If no one gets better offers then we can retain whoever we like.  Depth can't hurt, but that means some people sit on PR.  SAM can be cheap, but can also be pricier (Pickett) if top quality.

Kramdi to FS is interesting, but I think he's still got a lock on SAM.  He may be small but he does seem to bring down most that pass his way -- even beefier RBs.  I think his main talent, other than his passport, is his brain, which would make him a good fit at FS, who is often the "QB of our DBs" -- but then someone needs to step up at LB to be the "QB of the D".  Not sure T.Jones is that guy.
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According to today's injury report...

Questionable

Wheatfall
Parker
Griffin

Doubtful


Demski (but not injury related)
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Blue In BC

Quote from: ModAdmin on October 09, 2025, 04:05:34 PMAccording to today's injury report...

Questionable

Wheatfall
Parker
Griffin

Doubtful


Demski (but not injury related)

If Demski doesn't play it may up the desire to add Wheatfall back to the roster. That's a tough call if he's questionable and it's another twist into the ratio requiring to remove an import from the defence. Obviously we could just add Cobb and start Corcoran but Wheatfall would be preferable.

IIRC Demski's wife is about to give birth so it's understandable if he is unavailable.
One game at a time.

Waffler

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 09, 2025, 05:34:01 PMwe could just add Cobb
I'm sure Cobb would love to play his old team. Sometimes you get the best from a player in that situation.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Waffler on October 09, 2025, 05:40:17 PMI'm sure Cobb would love to play his old team. Sometimes you get the best from a player in that situation.

Sure but he'd only be the back up and might not even get any significant reps.
One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Waffler on October 09, 2025, 05:40:17 PMI'm sure Cobb would love to play his old team. Sometimes you get the best from a player in that situation.

Agree, if Demski can't play give Cobb one legitimate chance to show what he can do, Corcoran has had multiple opportunities already and he hasn't done much.

Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 09, 2025, 06:41:37 PMAgree, if Demski can't play give Cobb one legitimate chance to show what he can do, Corcoran has had multiple opportunities already and he hasn't done much.

AFAIK Corcoran has only had 1 drop.  He just doesn't get targeted much.  Doesn't help that some of his starts were with no-throw Strev.

For all we know he may be the next Demski.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Tecno on October 09, 2025, 08:15:35 PMAFAIK Corcoran has only had 1 drop.  He just doesn't get targeted much.  Doesn't help that some of his starts were with no-throw Strev.

For all we know he may be the next Demski.


Corcoran looks nothing like Demski, he resembles a Natl. receiver that should remain a backup utility player at best. Compared to the quality of Natl. receivers now starring across the CFL the Bombers are miles behind in this category. If on the Riders he would be 5th or 6th on their depth chart, on the Bombers he's 3rd.

Blue In BC

#72
Yeah I don't know about giving Cobb a chance to start with a play off spot on the line.

I'd go so far as adding Echols if Demski and Wheatfall are not available.  This is not a game where we can lose the output at one receiver spot.

A Calgary loss and then a Bomber win puts us in 2nd place at least temporarily.
One game at a time.

Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 09, 2025, 09:11:34 PMCorcoran looks nothing like Demski, he resembles a Natl. receiver that should remain a backup utility player at best.

You're forgetting that's exactly what Demski looked like in his first seasons with SSK.  Even LaFrance showed more promise early on than Demski did, and look where he is now.

I'm not saying Corcoran IS the next Demski, I'm saying he could be.  Sometimes with these smaller NAT RECs you need to be patient.
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Blueforlife

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 09, 2025, 02:56:07 AMA log jam is forming at the OLB positions, Kyrie, Griffin, Ayers, Woodbey can all play WIL and Kramdi, Griffin and Woodbey can all play SAM.  This is going to be tough to sort out next season without losing anyone, probably impossible.  Kramdi is the light weight at 189 lbs, he isn't really built to take on the heavier running backs and probably wouldn't ever admit it but his tackling form isn't particularly good.

In order to keep the most Import players in play, I'd like to see Kramdi moved to primary Safety in place of Allen, who can probably play any of the DB positions eventually, potentially even replacing Nichols or Holm at HB if lost in FA or as a cost savings move.  It would also be a good way to extend Kramdi's career with Smith and Shay quickly moving into positions to surpass him on the depth chart.
Pass on Kramdi at safety
He is a great LB
Allen will be a good safety
Yes need to find reps for Smith and Shay
Our depth at LB is and will continue to be the strength of this club

Corcoran has been fine
Cobb is ok but not the best time to play him imo but I do like him