Concerned About the 35s Change Ruining the Final 3 Minutes?

[dd]

There is no need for the 35 s clock, none. The way we time games makes perfect sense, leave well enough alone.

[gobombersgo]

There is no need for the 35 s clock, none. The way we time games makes perfect sense, leave well enough alone.

I actually like the new 35 clock (except for using it in the last few minutes of each half)

Watch during the Bombers game tomorrow, they are masters at running the clock down between plays.

The new clock will speed up play and will add 5-10 more plays to a game.

[Pete]

To call johnson a liar, with nothing but conjecture is out of line.
Heres my take, the board of governors wanted changes, status quo on a league that us seeing its fan base diminish was not acceptable.
 Johnsons approach was to look at what he could take from the successful nfl to add entertainment value.
Could he have looked at other ideas,sure and he still should. Migrating some best practices within the league such as concerts, the stampede bowl etc.
 Can also take ideas from the usfl such as how they are more visible with replay/command center calls.
A year from now You might be able to say I told you so we'll see

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I actually like the new 35 clock (except for using it in the last few minutes of each half)

Watch during the Bombers game tomorrow, they are masters at running the clock down between plays.

The new clock will speed up play and will add 5-10 more plays to a game.

Wonder if the 35 sec. clock will push the refs. to forego the little conferences they hold to sort out what each one saw and just move on with the original call.  I'll take the right call over the fast call every time.

In a sense the league might be trying to push the officials to be more productive.

[dd]

I actually like the new 35 clock (except for using it in the last few minutes of each half)

Watch during the Bombers game tomorrow, they are masters at running the clock down between plays.

The new clock will speed up play and will add 5-10 more plays to a game.

I just don't see the NEED for the change. Right now the officials control the pace of the game, the ball is spotted and the chain gang is set, then you blow the play in. It makes total sense. The new rule will result in the officials, especially the chain gang and downsbox, will be racing down the field to get the chains setup on a long pass. Why do that?? Why create chaos?? The nfl takes 40 seconds and they have a narrower field. We re supposed to do it 5 seconds quicker with a 10 yd wider field?? they haven't  done the math yet, it doesn't make any sense.

I just see teams and officials making more mistakes, so the quality of play will suffer, the way we do it now makes total sense

[TecnoGenius]

I actually like the new 35 clock (except for using it in the last few minutes of each half)

Everyone likes the end goal of a snappier pace and/or more plays, my beef is that the 35s idea is not the only way to achieve this.  And the 35s idea is what has the potential to ruin the final 3.  It would seem pretty clear they just can't throw away the 35s idea come the 3 min warning.  Therefore it'll be 35s after the warning PLUS some stupid, mishmashed mitigations they come up with to save face.  Like 6 TOs per team per game.

How many other ideas could have been dreamed up by players, coaches, fans?  Like my "soft 35s clock" idea.  Or stricter rules on player sub timing.

Once again it's a case of the Commish jumping to the MOST DRASTIC solution possible to solve the ostensible problem.  (Unless said problems are merely red herrings, and the "solutions" are the real goals.)

[TecnoGenius]

I just see teams and officials making more mistakes, so the quality of play will suffer, the way we do it now makes total sense

Ya, the first few weeks will be total keystone cops.  And how many more too-many-men penalties are going to occur?  I'd guess quadruple.  What if the keystone and TMM continue and don't go down as the season progresses?  You want to talk about Bush League looking on TV!

Remember, the D still needs time to see what the O has decided for personnel scheme.  It's going to be tight getting your D subs in.

[Jesse]

To call johnson a liar, with nothing but conjecture is out of line.
Heres my take, the board of governors wanted changes, status quo on a league that us seeing its fan base diminish was not acceptable.
 Johnsons approach was to look at what he could take from the successful nfl to add entertainment value.
Could he have looked at other ideas,sure and he still should. Migrating some best practices within the league such as concerts, the stampede bowl etc.
 Can also take ideas from the usfl such as how they are more visible with replay/command center calls.
A year from now You might be able to say I told you so we'll see

Not at all.

We have quotes from Wally Buono, who's has been hired on as a consultant for multiple teams since he retired. He repeatedly says that if he was commish, American expansion would be his number one priority.

We have quotes from Stew from back when he was with TSN saying the CFL should go to 4 downs.

We have the former TSN prez immediately installing changes that affect how the game looks on TV and making it fit better in American made stadiums. There are no other reasons to make the changes they did.

The changes they did decide to make, which will cost a fortune, need to be installed before the next TSN contract is up.

Despite massive debate across the league from fans, players, coaches, and media; TSN employees are for some reason in lock step in favour of the changes.

[blue_gold_84]

To call johnson a liar, with nothing but conjecture is out of line.

Did you clutch your invisible pearls when you typed that?

What's out of line is making a bunch of unjustified, expensive changes that won't improve the game or increase revenue.

Stewart Johnston isn't the victim.

[theaardvark]

"Not ruining it with the 35 second clock" is the key.

The games have different paces depending on the crew, that is a fact.  Could you achieve the same by training the crews better?  Probably.  Put one of those restaurant beepers in the ref's pocket that goes off 15 seconds after the dead ball to remind him to get his butt moving.  Instead of a 35 second clock, make it a 15 second clock until the 20 second clock starts.  Give the crew 15 seconds to get the ball placed.  Like the pitch clock in MLB.

If the game clock is starting with the 35 second clock, then it takes plays off the total, because you can lose 15 seconds a play downed inbounds.  You still don't lose anything on the OB or INC plays. 

It could trim a few minutes off the game time, but nothing really difference making.  But it will quicken the pace with some crews (might actually slow it with others). 

In consultation with the refs and coaches, I could see it being tossed out, especially if they are going to have to make other adjustments (more timeouts, changes inside 3 min) to make it work, and settle on just better training that will improve the issue as we move the older crews/refs out.