Concerned About the 35s Change Ruining the Final 3 Minutes?

[jdrattops]

Undecided right now as with the current rules the clock is stopped after each play under 3 minutes (Q2 & Q4).  If they continue to play it out this way I would prefer it being a 20 second TC.  Running 35 without changing the amount of TOs would be a disaster, IMO.  Let's see where they go with this one, there hasn't been any mention to the final 3 minutes so far or to any TO changes.

[TecnoGenius]

To be honest, I'd probably drip feed some of those things if it were my call.

Ah, the ol'



CFL is insulting my intelligence.

[TecnoGenius]

Just found: Johnston does address the details issue and acknowledges that the biggest fan issue since the announcement by far is the final 3 mins problem, in this interview I just found!

See my audio link in my new thread:
https://forums.bluebombers.com/index.php?topic=56811.0

He gives no details, but he does address that this is the main fear.

[theaardvark]

Easy fix, we change things for the final 3 minutes right now, add this change to the clock:

During the final 3 minutes, the game clock does not start until 20 sec left on the 35 sec clock in the case or a play ending inbounds, or until the snap on plays ending in an incomplete pass, penalty or OB.

Pretty simple change.

[TecnoGenius]

Pretty simple change.

Ah, have you seen how incompetent the CFL clock people are?  "Please reset the game clock to ..."  <---- 10X per game.

You think these people are ambidextrous or something!?  Managing 2 clock buttons and synchronizing them with 15s offsets?  LOL

You get points for trying though!  Maybe a computer can do it all...

[TBURGESS]

Teams burn 1:45 (105 seconds) plus the time to run the plays (5 seconds each?) for every 2 and out. It will affect the whole game, especially the 4th quarter when teams who are up by 2 scores will be draining the clock. I expect a lot of very slow 4th quarters.

We're going from no lead is safe to most leads are safe. 

[dd]

The big difference in the 35 s clock will be in the last 3 minutes, where seconds are precious. In the current timing rules, if it is a run play and the ball stays in bounds, the game clock doesn't start until the ball has been placed for scrimmage. Under the new scenario, the clock starts immediately after the conclusion of the previous play. Assuming it takes the refs 15 seconds to get the ball back to be spotted on the ground, that time is now coming off the clock vs being held under current rules. 3 plays means 45 seconds has been rolled off the clock, whereas right now, those seconds would be on the game clock. If you only have 90 seconds left in the game when you get possession, tons of time under the current rules, you only have really 45 seconds, so LESS time to make plays when you really need them.

The proposed timing rule change will result in less scoring in the last 3 minutes and think about how many teams have come back this year to win during this time.

So we're eliminating the missed FG opportunity, so Vaval and Pimpleton would have their 3 TD's erased under the current proposal, and there would be less teams coming from behind in the final 3 minutes. Yep, those are making the game more exciting, NOT!!!

 We are being hood winked and lied to by the Commissioner and his minions!!

[bwiser]

I would have liked the league to experiment with some of the new rules in preseason and see how it works out. If it still makes sense then implement the new rules. If it doesn't don't go ahead with it.BWISER FOR COMMISIONER!

[TecnoGenius]

Assuming it takes the refs 15 seconds to get the ball back to be spotted on the ground, that time is now coming off the clock vs being held under current rules. 3 plays means 45 seconds has been rolled off the clock, whereas right now, those seconds would be on the game clock. If you only have 90 seconds left in the game when you get possession, tons of time under the current rules, you only have really 45 seconds, so LESS time to make plays when you really need them.

Good point.  Most of the focus has been on clock bleed for the team that is ahead and holds the ball.  But the other side of that, the team that's behind and has the ball, is also disadvantaged by the 35s change!

So in both (every!) scenarios the chance of a lead change(s) in the final 3 minutes has been greatly reduced.  That equals less chance of scoring/TDs.  Which directly contradicts their stated goal of "more TDs" and "more excitement".

Without tripling the time-out count each team gets, like the NFL, and allowing them to carry into the final 3, we will have the lamest end games imaginable.  There has to be a carveout for reverting to our old 20s clock in the last 3.  I don't care, Johnston, if it takes "a half hour to play the last 3 minutes", that's what we love!

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Maybe you'd all be less concerned if there was a two minute warning instead of three       

Let's all hope for that.

[blue_gold_84]

Maybe you'd all be less concerned if there was a two minute warning instead of three       

Let's all hope for that.

[Jesse]

I haven't seen this explained to my satisfaction yet, but apparently there is more to this 35 second clock rule that will make it slightly more palatable.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I haven't seen this explained to my satisfaction yet, but apparently there is more to this 35 second clock rule that will make it slightly more palatable.

Yes, I haven't heard from anyone that's willing to change the last 3 minutes of the halfs including Johnston, everyone realizes it's value, the details are TBD.

[TecnoGenius]

Yes, I haven't heard from anyone that's willing to change the last 3 minutes of the halfs including Johnston, everyone realizes it's value, the details are TBD.

Except even if we switch back to the "old way" in the last 3 mins, won't that just fluster and confuse the officials and timers?  I'm not sure I'd want to get used to doing the 35s all game then switching to a completely different mindset at the end.  I can foresee many screwups.  Plus, keeping anything of the "olds" will make people remember it and maybe miss it; Johnston wants your mind to flush all the "olds".

To Modernization, And Beyond!

In the CJME interview he seemed a bit surprised there was huge concern about the final 3 mins.  He came across as though he hadn't even thought of it before that moment!  Now THAT'S disconcerting.

[TecnoGenius]

I haven't seen this explained to my satisfaction yet, but apparently there is more to this 35 second clock rule that will make it slightly more palatable.

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