Hamilton @ Winnipeg

Started by Pigskin, September 22, 2025, 01:40:40 PM

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Waffler

Play him if cleared. It's a home game. Revenge match. We have a decent chance. They have just 2 wins more than us.
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Blueforlife

If Zach plays I believe we will see the best two deep ball vet slingers go toe to toe

M.O.A.B.

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 24, 2025, 12:09:11 AMIf Zach plays I believe we will see the best two deep ball vet slingers go toe to toe

That's if our OL can hold up. The protection up front is not good.

dd

Quote from: Jesse on September 23, 2025, 11:45:22 PMAssuming he's not retiring tomorrow, there's no reason not to play him if he's cleared the concussion protocol.
It was posted play him even if he isn't 100%, which to me means he hasn't cleared concussion protocol. No clearance, no play.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 23, 2025, 10:43:05 PMDoesn't matter who I want to come on or off but history and gut tells me Ayers ain't leaving the AR.  Yes I want Woods on. No I wouldn't trade him for Ayers.

You should and most of us think we'd be better with adding either Woods or Adams. I gave you the math and logic. You seem to see " Rudy " for the underdogs. What we can't figure out is why the coaches make this choice. He's not the best cover player even on the Bombers and he's not a Canadian.

One game at a time.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Blue In BC on September 24, 2025, 01:12:14 AMYou should and most of us think we'd be better with adding either Woods or Adams. I gave you the math and logic. You seem to see " Rudy " for the underdogs. What we can't figure out is why the coaches make this choice. He's not the best cover player even on the Bombers and he's not a Canadian.


I should think for myself and my opinion isn't based on the what the herd or you would do.  Ayers is not a Rudy and that's not fair, accurate or needed to call him that.  Ayers made a massive play last game.  You don't take the hot, consistent hand out of the lineup imo.  Close call but that's my take and have have stated yours.  Let's move on, we are talking less about ball and more about opinions imo.

Pass on Adams.  Woods for someone else (maybe).  I don't know who else is an option.

Throw Long Bannatyne

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Quote from: dd on September 23, 2025, 10:25:51 PMZach should not play if he isn't 100% and likely to be re-injured. This isn't an ankle injury we're talking about, its a head injury, from a guy who's had tons of them. This is serious. I don't want a guy to compromise his cognitive ability down the road for a 'maybe' win that may not matter in 2 weeks time. It took a miracle to beat lowly Ottawa, with Zach we stand a better chance of beating Hamilton, but I just don't see us keeping up with Smith, White and Lawler and BLM vs our injured secondary. Ain't worth it for Zach 's health

CTE damage has already been done, it doesn't heal and there is no cure, maybe it effects his long-term health badly, maybe it doesn't.  Listen to Zach's interview today, it's his football career and his choice, O'Shea isn't forcing him to dress or to retire, he's choosing his own path.  That being said it's obviously time for the Bombers to re-calibrate for next season, as his lost game time is having a negative effect on their record.

Blueforlife

My expectation would be Zach to groom someone next year.

ModAdmin

#38
Officially (today)...

Vanterpool
Logan
Collaros
Sterns
Hallety

All participated in a full practice.

Wheatfall
Parker
Griffin

Did not practice.
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." - John Wooden

TecnoGenius

Quote from: ModAdmin on September 24, 2025, 03:14:58 AMOfficially (today)...

Vanterpool
Logan


Hard to see how we get either of these 2 on the AR because of the ratio.  If we do one, it'll be Vant.
Never go full Rider!

Blue In BC

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Quote from: Blueforlife on September 24, 2025, 01:25:26 AMI should think for myself and my opinion isn't based on the what the herd or you would do.  Ayers is not a Rudy and that's not fair, accurate or needed to call him that.  Ayers made a massive play last game.  You don't take the hot, consistent hand out of the lineup imo.  Close call but that's my take and have have stated yours.  Let's move on, we are talking less about ball and more about opinions imo.

Pass on Adams.  Woods for someone else (maybe).  I don't know who else is an option.

I explained the value of a starter or heavily rotated player over an ST player. The math speaks for itself. We know he made a good play in the last game. How many good plays do you expect from a starting DL?

My comments about him are fair. He has value but he is not more valuable than taking out Person or Woodbey for example.

It has nothing to do with being part of the herd.  It is a Rudy complex similar to some always cheering for the # 2 QB.

I've explained that it's odd about why O'Shea has benched both Woods and Adams. I have no idea who is better.

OTOH you " want " Woods and have mentioned that repeatedly. You may be right or you may be totally wrong since you haven't explained the logic of choosing him over Adams. Maybe you go to practices and see an advantage.

If not then it's similar to your desire to retain Ayers on the AR at all costs. The rest of us see a greater benefit of having another interior DL in the overall picture to rotate players. If Schmekel was healthy we'd have a different argument possibly.

This is true almost regardless of the skill level of either Adams or Woods. Both have played and made great plays in the past.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion. It's interesting that you challenge me having my opinions or those of others that don't agree with your opinion.
One game at a time.

Pigskin

Sounds like ZC8 will probably start on Saturday, However, I would like to see a couple of heavy run packages for Strev, with odd pass.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 24, 2025, 02:00:37 PMI've explained that it's odd about why O'Shea has benched both Woods and Adams. I have no idea who is better.

Maybe it's because adding in just 1 of Woods or Adams doesn't buy us anything.  Adams being in earlier in the season didn't really help the DL.  I doubt Woods would either.  I think you need BOTH Woods & Adams starting, and the ratio makes that impossible.

So we don't start either and instead do our "max coverage" schtick.  And I don't see how we can change that at all this season.
Never go full Rider!

Blue In BC

Quote from: Pigskin on September 24, 2025, 02:04:41 PMSounds like ZC8 will probably start on Saturday, However, I would like to see a couple of heavy run packages for Strev, with odd pass.

Yes we're going to need to have Brady involved in both run and passing game. Our receiving group has taken another hit even if we get Sterns back. I'm not too concerned about him or Collaros a bit rusty but it's another change to deal with this week.

I'm not sure about using Strev at times beyond SY. An odd pass as a back up when he only threw 8 in the last game? That would be odd and not expected by their defence on SY plays. lol

There is more uncertainty on defence with Parker likely out as well as Griffin.
One game at a time.

BlueGold8597