CFL announces changes to the game - merged topics

[The Zipp]

But the CFL is a national entity and receives tons of federal, provincial, and municipal support. Our very stadium would not have been built if not for public funds that were dependent on making the field available for those other organizations you mention.

None of the rich guys who are behind these changes paid for their buildings. Public funds. The exemption of taxes. Free land. Yet none of the concerned parties who use these buildings have any say? Or the right to be consulted?

The CFL is the steward of the Canadian game I heard somewhere recently. That's not charity. It's a responsibility that's given for all of the public dollars they have been rewarded.

that is why i said that they should be assisting with the rollout and implementation.

[Jesse]

that is why i said that they should be assisting with the rollout and implementation.

Yeah, that should be mandatory.

But I still hold the league accountable for being poor steward's of the game and feel they've gone outside their purview by instituting these changes without consultation from all stakeholders.

[The Zipp]

I've asked AARDS a few times to back up his claims with questions .. and he just avoids them.

he did - with a quote from joe pascucci and our own modadmin..personally i don't ever remember but seems like there was truth to what aards said.

[Tecno]

Blue Bombers played on a 100 yard field with 15 yard end zones back in the day they played at Osborne Stadium. Seems everything old is new again.

Oh, so it was just 1 field, not a CFL-wide thing.  You know, like the MTL EZ corners exception.

So it is true the CFL never had 100Y fields as the rule.  And if Aards hates/hated and lambasts the MTL corners problem, the he surely must hate/lambast the Osborne stadium problem.  And it surely can't then be used as a talking point to justify the current changes.

Oh ya, and you need to go back to 1956 to even bring up Osborne as an argument.

[Tecno]

I'll go to my grave saying it was an over throw cross bar or no.

Overthrow, behind-throw, or INT/batdown.  I virtually guarantee it.  I thought it was going behind the REC.  Our guy was in his hip pocket.  That doesn't end well.  Yes, the trajectory was very high: hence why it hit to bar.  With that much zip and height it might have been a tough jump ball, which isn't easy at the far back of the EZ with a DB draped on you -- especially if it's slightly behind.

One of the most memorable CFL moments ever.  For everyone: blue, green or other color.

[Tecno]

From riderfans:

since the goal posts are not longer on the goal line, do we have to call them the endzone posts now?  --GreenTea

Good point

[Tecno]

Another Riderfans:

A field goal is just as much a reward for failure   --El Guapo

[Tecno]

For a league that has the mantra "diversity is strength", they sure do seem to be moving towards conformity -- every single change they made moves us closer to being the same as the NFL.  How is that being diverse?

And supposedly the "younger generations" are the most "diverse" and certainly "quirky" ever.  Wouldn't a generation where every other kid invents a new pronoun, hair color, and piercing location welcome and cherish the equally quirky rouge and 110 yards?  If anything, they'll now "laugh" at the CFL for caving and conforming and sucking up to "the man" and pandering to the almighty buck.  At least before we had cajones -- and an identity.  Diet NFL, indeed.

[Jesse]

For a league that has the mantra "diversity is strength", they sure do seem to be moving towards conformity -- every single change they made moves us closer to being the same as the NFL.  How is that being diverse?

And supposedly the "younger generations" are the most "diverse" and certainly "quirky" ever.  Wouldn't a generation where every other kid invents a new pronoun, hair color, and piercing location welcome and cherish the equally quirky rouge and 110 yards?  If anything, they'll now "laugh" at the CFL for caving and conforming and sucking up to "the man" and pandering to the almighty buck.  At least before we had cajones -- and an identity.  Diet NFL, indeed.

My brother is an NFL fan. He thinks the product is better and only watches the CFL when I bring him out to games.

He thinks these changes are absolutely ridiculous too. And that's exactly why he thinks that, he sees it as the CFL trying to conform with the NFL and he has no respect for the idea.

[The Zipp]

Yeah, that should be mandatory.

But I still hold the league accountable for being poor steward's of the game and feel they've gone outside their purview by instituting these changes without consultation from all stakeholders.

Interestingly enough the chair of the BOG is also the Chancellor for the U of Sask so while he isn't directly representing USports he would have an indirect linkage to them and certainly an understanding of their challenges and  should be championing their cause through these changes.  His title alone will open the doors to the discussions and I am sure when talk of these changes was begin discussed every member of the BOG would have had the opportunity to being their ideas, thoughts and concerns. 

They aren't a bunch of dimwits - these people have likely worked on other transformational changes in their careers and have thought through this process - doesn't mean mistakes don't happen but the hyperbole on this is pretty intense ..and maybe that is good - perhaps people and fans have been a bit lukewarm towards the CFL and this has got them a bit more passionate.

[blue_gold_84]

Joe Pascucci@Pascucci015
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Sep 22
Blue Bombers played on a 100 yard field with 15 yard end zones back in the day they played at Osborne Stadium. Seems everything old is new again.

All this proves is that Obsorne Stadium - a single venue - wasn't compliant with CFL rules.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Have we not figured it out yet?

The CFL isn't Canadian because of three downs or wider fields. It's Canadian because it's ours. It's played here, in our towns and cities, in front of Canadian fans who grew up with Bombers vs Riders on Labour Day, the Banjo Bowl, Grey Cup legends. It's about families in the stands, community groups getting recognized, and Northern kids being flown in to take part (see you Saturday). It's the flag on the field, the anthem sung by Stacy, and the parade in fur coats and snowstorms.

Changing a couple of rules doesn't suddenly make it the NFL. There is no chance that that can happen because it's not a possible outcome EVEN if you changed every rule to mirror. The CFL will never be the NFL.

The identity of the league comes from the people in the seats and the stories around the game. The CFL brings communities together in a way no other league does. That's why it's Canadian.

I say this kindly, think about it some more. Step back from the ledge.

[markf]

I wonder how much the owners of some of the teams actually care about their team and the league.

" At the end of the survey, Stampeders players were also able to provide anonymous feedback.

Stamps anonymous player comments:

"Most players have to get a gym membership to get a real workout during the season. The field in Calgary has also led to many major and minor injuries."

"We need a new field and need meals. We also need help with transportation to and from the facility for guys that are from the US and don't have cars out here in Canada."

"Calgary's practice and game field are unacceptable"

Saw on Reddit today commissioner seems to be feeling the heat, and saying no four downs planned at all.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFL/s/EB9wrL0cBq

It's funny, he's not actually sweating, but it's close.

Maybe he should get out and actually meet the actual fans. Has he been to a game? Did he ever show up at Princess Auto stadium to see what works?

Glad to see fans might actually  have some power. Another big difference from the NFL.

[blue_gold_84]

The CFL isn't Canadian because of three downs or wider fields.

Yes, it is. The three downs and rugby-influenced fields have been the fabric of the CFL since its inception.

You and Aardsy don't seem to have a clue.

[Waffler]

All this proves is that Obsorne Stadium - a single venue - wasn't compliant with CFL rules.

Osborne stadium.  Opened in 1932 with seating for 4,000.  Going on a hundred years ago and 3 years after the first forward pass was completed in 1929. Great example of how we should "modernize" with that 100 yard field.