CFL announces changes to the game - merged topics

Started by The Zipp, September 21, 2025, 05:20:40 PM

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Do you like the changes overall?

Yes
11 (22.9%)
No
37 (77.1%)

Total Members Voted: 48

Throw Long Bannatyne

#390
Quote from: Waffler on September 23, 2025, 01:59:20 PMOnce the field is shortened in 2027, there will be no going back. There will be stands put in and then be  another massive expense to undo it.

They can fill the new endzone space with slot machines to generate extra revenue and add a bit of colour, distraction and background noise.  Provide seniors a free ducat to attend games, they can smoke, drink and gamble their pensions, while only having to dodge the occasional FG or bruiser that crashes through their fresh air casino.

blue_or_die

One thing I've noticed in the forum discourse - when the pro-change folks concede on any issues raised, they tend to add, "well yeah but they will OBVIOUSLY make x change to compensate for that". Obviously, we will move kickoffs back 10 yards. Obviously, they won't actually implement the 35 s clock, guys.

Without details how can we be so sure about any of these things? This league and its brand new commissioner haven't earned an ounce of the benefit of the doubt.

And once these changes are rolled out, if they're a failure, good luck putting the genie back in the bottle again.
#Ride?

BlueInCgy

Quote from: blue_or_die on September 23, 2025, 07:54:26 PMOne thing I've noticed in the forum discourse - when the pro-change folks concede on any issues raised, they tend to add, "well yeah but they will OBVIOUSLY make x change to compensate for that". Obviously, we will move kickoffs back 10 yards. Obviously, they won't actually implement the 35 s clock, guys.

Without details how can we be so sure about any of these things? This league and its brand new commissioner haven't earned an ounce of the benefit of the doubt.

And once these changes are rolled out, if they're a failure, good luck putting the genie back in the bottle again.

They'll try and figure that out in the off season and next year.  Right now they're field testing the fan base reaction.

BlueInCgy

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 23, 2025, 07:49:22 PMThey can fill the new endzone space with slot machines to generate extra revenue and add a bit of colour, distraction and background noise.  Provide seniors a free ducat to attend games, they can smoke, drink and gamble their pensions, while only having to dodge the occasional FG and bruiser that crashes through their fresh air casino.

Funny thing is I wouldn't be surprised if something like that wasn't factored in.  Maybe not casino, but some kind of premium entertainment zone.  Problem is it requires cash up front over and above the cash required for field mods.

theaardvark

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 23, 2025, 07:49:22 PMThey can fill the new endzone space with slot machines to generate extra revenue and add a bit of colour, distraction and background noise.  Provide seniors a free ducat to attend games, they can smoke, drink and gamble their pensions, while only having to dodge the occasional FG and bruiser that crashes through their fresh air casino.

More tickets, more money.

Will only be a 10 yard add in, I can see an entertainment stage being added, or a lounge area with a hot tub and sofa's... "Sponsored by" kind of deal.
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theaardvark

Quote from: wpg#1 on September 23, 2025, 06:27:30 PMI'll ask again then..
Did they say they're moving the KO back 10 to 15 yards ? Is that what the CFL is doing ? Or are you just suggesting that they will ?

If Wade wholeheartedly supported this as you say he did, then I will show Wade how I feel by not renewing.

I'd be more likely to not renew based on whats happening on the field as opposed to what's happening to the field.

Quote from: jets4life on September 23, 2025, 06:30:55 PMI've heard that the new changes will negatively effect the sightlines for ppl sitting in the end zones.


Again, 10 yards.  Sure, it may be a little different, guys who used to be on the goal line are now 5 yards deep in the EZ, but overall, there should be better sightlines for most of the seats with the removal of the goal posts. 

I used to have P7's in the corner, where I missed action below on the goal line, new configuration will bring that goal line into view.  So some will improve.

EZ seats are not about the view, though, now are they?
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

wpg#1

Quote from: theaardvark on September 23, 2025, 08:20:53 PMI'd be more likely to not renew based on whats happening on the field as opposed to what's happening to the field.


You're hilarious !
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Throw Long Bannatyne

#397
Pat Neufeld discusses the rule changes with Ed Tait.


Zach discusses his health in the first half and rule changes in the second half of the interview.



gordo

Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 23, 2025, 06:34:56 PMSeason ticket seats just got worse for most so they'll either have to be discounted appropriately, or risk forfeiting, neither of which is revenue positive.

Discounting season tickets because of this will never happen. Teams can't afford to do that and the degradation of your sight line will be minimal. Many will complain, few will give up their seats.

I don't like it either but it's going to happen so live with it.  My seats got worse too.

I do find it hard to believe that Wade Miller was consulted and he never discussed it at all with MOS. Thought the mafia was tighter than that. Interesting that Miller is in favor. Or he has to support it because he has no choice.

Tecno

Quote from: buckzumhoff on September 23, 2025, 02:52:47 PMThe bombers also wanted a 3 year commitment.

Commitments aren't unheard of.  SSK did a 3 year commitment deal in '20-'21 I think?  I don't think it was related to any GC, they gave a deal where you locked in your price (no increases) and got a free jersey (so like $200) if you stayed in the program.

It backfired around '23-'24 when they all came up for renewal, the team had stunk for 3+ years under Dickenson The Lesser and the province added a new tax to tickets: caused a ton of STH to drop out and they never came back.

Let's hope WFC plays this much better (even if losing after this).  This STH loss cost SSK big time.  Need to ease the STH into the next "deal", and don't add new taxes (teams can offset them with discounts), and/or lower prices if the team has been crap.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: buckzumhoff on September 23, 2025, 02:52:47 PMFunny how they did this the announcement shortly before playoffs with Grey cup in Winnipeg

If anyone wants to dismiss the timing as "conspiracy", keep in mind Johnston has explicitly said he and his board have been talking about these changes and working on them for MONTHS.  WM is one of his board.  So WM almost certainly had advance knowledge of the NFL changes before he made up the $100 GC discount 3-year lock-in.

Of course, I can't say for sure with the timing, and I also can't even say one begat the other.  But it is certainly possible.  I'm not even sure I'd fault him for it.  His job is to ensure butts in seats, and any "lies" would only be lies of omission.  (And what's he gonna say?  "Please lock in to get your discount because if you don't lock in before you hear the NFL news, we know you'll cancel your STH!")
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: theaardvark on September 23, 2025, 06:20:57 PMThe game you "love" is the same.  3 Downs, ratio, one yard off the ball, waggle.  All the stuff that makes CFL unique.

Wow!  Did Johnston steal Aard's login credentials?

Quote from: theaardvark on September 23, 2025, 06:20:57 PMYes, the silly 55 yard line is gone. The rouge which most people, including kickers, thought was a reward for failure, is reduced. And the goalposts which block sightlines for fans, QB's, and receivers goes outside the playing field.

Aards, think for yourself man!  You basically just regurgitated the exact same wording as Johnston gave in the KJME interview I posted!

Everyone's already rebutted every point, but you just toe the party line!  At least pro-NFL SB&G is putting thought into his rah-rah posts, understands what we are saying, and isn't parroting the weak talking points.

Did you really think the 55 yard line was "silly" last season?  10 seasons ago?  20?  Or do you just think you think that now because the concept has been implanted in your brain as truth by external parties?

Quote from: theaardvark on September 23, 2025, 06:20:57 PMAnd teams on opposite sides of the field?  How is that a bad thing?

Inserting the thing no one opposes to justify the changes many oppose.  Fallacious.

Quote from: theaardvark on September 23, 2025, 06:20:57 PMThe clock I can't see getting to implementation in its proposed form.  That is too far for the "No lead is safe" league.  THAT will be modified in some way.

Phew, I thought the aliens had completely taken over your brain.  At least you had one nonconformist thought in this post.  Now go tell Johnston, because as it stands right now, you're getting the 35s clock in the final 3.  And agreeing with all his other points only strengthens his ability to do it.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: gordo on September 24, 2025, 04:20:15 AMI do find it hard to believe that Wade Miller was consulted and he never discussed it at all with MOS. Thought the mafia was tighter than that.

Or maybe he did... we were all noting how ornery and snarky MOS has been for at least 2 months now.  And it wasn't just because of the losing (we were looking ok for some of that time).

Maybe WM told MOS, and MOS hated the new rules AND was anticipating the fan backlash that was coming.  Sucks when your ultimate boss (the Commish) is a maniacal poop-disturber that wants to destroy the org you have lived/loved your whole life, eh Mike?

Keep in mind, that these changes REALLY impact the "MOS Book For Running His Game", more so than any other HC.  For one thing, MOS is a FG-heavy HC.  FG's will go the way of the dodo now.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 23, 2025, 08:12:38 PMFunny thing is I wouldn't be surprised if something like that wasn't factored in.  Maybe not casino, but some kind of premium entertainment zone.

The 3down Madani article I linked to yesterday already came out and said the plan is for field-level seating to fill with people like social media "influencers".  It's already in the cards.  Basically a done deal.

If you want to talk about cost, many/most big influencers won't pay to go to your game: the opposite... you have to pay THEM.  Sometimes hundreds of thousands.  If you want to reach the kids...
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 23, 2025, 08:06:05 PMThey'll try and figure that out in the off season and next year.  Right now they're field testing the fan base reaction.

They could have done that saying "we're thinking about" or "we're studying".  Not "this is what we're doing 100% screw you".

It seems unlikely a new Commish clearly looking to make a big name for himself will suddenly backtrack on even a single change.  Unless it was all a big joke to stir up layman interest in the general media.
Never go full Johnston!