CFL announces changes to the game - merged topics

Started by The Zipp, September 21, 2025, 05:20:40 PM

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Do you like the changes overall?

Yes
11 (22.4%)
No
38 (77.6%)

Total Members Voted: 49

Tecno

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 23, 2025, 02:37:28 AMWorst case scenario they just line the field differently? Best case u sports aligns?

I am pretty sure a few dollar of paint in between games fixes the issue if they don't?  ;D

Did you read the articles?  Johnston said this will force 2-3 teams to replace their entire turf because they have permanent lines sewn in.  At a cost of more than a million dollars PER STADIUM.  SSK is one of those teams they said.  Didn't SSK just replace their turf this last off-season?  Wow, how's that for "environmentally friendly" league.  1 year old turf added to the landfill.  Yay CFL!

Now, I'm as happy as anyone that the greenies have to suffer and waste money, don't get me wrong.   ;D  ;D  ;D  But it seems a bit counter productive.

Before SSK goes out and gets their new turf with sewn-in 15Y EZ lines, the commish should just come out and say what he really wants: 10Y EZs and width the same as the NFL.  Why waste time pretending this is for any other reason than matching the NFL?  So let's just match it now and not make SSK get a new turf AGAIN in '28.  No one is fooled by the boiling frog treatment, just come out and say it.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: TrueBlue4 on September 23, 2025, 01:43:22 AMCan you tell me which game or games were decided by a QB hitting the goal post? You can't because even if the post wasn't there you can't 100% say what would have happened.

The Rougue - is definitely unique to the CFL and I can't think of any game that was decided by a rougu.  If a missed FG wins the game so does a made FG.

It's all misdirection and obfuscation.  Someone already posted, the number of post-hits and rouge-deciders are between 0 and 2 a season.  With 2 being a huge outlier.

Anyone who says we need the post moved or rouge deleted for those fake reasons IS A LYING MISDIRECTING PIECE OF TURF WITH BIG STAN'S VOMIT ON IT.  They literally aren't "things".  The only real example of a post hit meaning anything was that '19 WDF with Cody.  1 in 6 years.  Even then I'm pretty sure our guy was going to break it up (analyzed it at the time), and if you 100% for sure don't want to hit the post, DON'T CALL A LOW-TRAJECTORY POST ROUTE.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: bomb squad on September 23, 2025, 01:11:04 AMIf that's not the case and the game clock continues to run, then that absolutely stinks.

What you're saying is the 35s clock can be running while the game clock is not?  Yes, that's what would have to happen to keep our 3-min endings at least somewhat similar to now.  I'm pretty sure there are no times in current CFL or NFL where that can occur -- play clock running and game clock not?

If they ruin our amazing last-3-mins game by turning it into the NFL joke nonsense then they are going to miff basically EVERY real fan.  Even SB&G will hate that change.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 23, 2025, 12:28:59 AMGood on Rourke but he's going to get fined for speaking out.

"Bringing the league into disrepute".  Don't argue with your masters.  Ya, he's going to get reprimanded.  Maybe the league will suddenly get a penchant for "investigating" the Rourke MMM situation?  It's been a blind eye until now when he was the CFL media darling.  Now he's the trouble maker.  "Show us the time clock punch card and receipts Rourke, or we're gonna claw back that $200k MMM."
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Jesse on September 23, 2025, 12:19:58 AMMilt's a huge fan of changing everything. Talks about it all the time.

And he's one of the only non-Canadians on the panel.  What does he care?  Of course he'd love to see the CFL go all-IMP so he can have more Milt clones created.
Never go full Johnston!

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 23, 2025, 03:14:27 AMAnd he's one of the only non-Canadians on the panel.  What does he care?  Of course he'd love to see the CFL go all-IMP so he can have more Milt clones created.


Hahaha the worse argument for keeping the ratio of all time.

Tecno

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 23, 2025, 12:03:55 AMThe CFL used to have 25 yard end zones in most of our lifetimes. Are there people who are still mad they changed it to 20 in 1986?

25 yard end zones used to be so Canadian...

The problem is a ton of new stadiums have been built in the last 15 years based solely on the dimensions of the CFL field.  You know, like IGF?

The EZ seats and their crap view is about to get crappier because they are now 10Y further away from the action, AND now they have the post obstructing THEIR view of the TD action!  Plus, every stadium will be getting the FG nets back, screwing up FG views.  Heaven help the EZ fans if some stadiums don't make the retractable and they have to watch the whole game that way!
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: dd on September 22, 2025, 11:59:00 PMWhat a bunch of bunk by Miller!! It's going to make the game more exciting, how??

Miller looked at the upright flags and saw which way the wind was blowing.  Outside of player safety he's never been one to stand up against the league.

Granted, he's in a tough spot here, but he didn't have to make himself the poster child President face of all these change with his public comments and the dumb 3down article.  Let some other Prez take the heat.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Waffler on September 22, 2025, 11:58:36 PMevery time a play was stopped owing to the ball
hitting the goalpost or a game was decided on a rouge from a missed
field goal, it created a viral moment for the league that had most
Americans laughing at the CFL game
.

I don't care. They don't buy tickets and their tv contract will always be worth peanuts.

Darn right Waffler.  And even the original premise is wrong.  Those Americans are already laughing at the CFL, for every other reason.  The 1 rouge-deciding game every 2 seasons or the 1 goal-post-deciding game every 6 season had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

If you're an American already watching CFL, those quirks don't make you stop watching.  And for the Americans laughing who aren't watching, they were never going to watch anyway.

If anything, the quirks and "viral moments" were good for the CFL, making people talk about it and maybe get a few people to watch to learn why we have it this way.

The arguments put forth by all the intelligentsia so far are 99% asinine, straw men, and gaslighting.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Waffler on September 22, 2025, 11:56:23 PMMiller emphasized that while the changes may seem drastic at first
blush, they were based on strong data

Ok. what is the data?

What he & Bob Young scratched onto the back of a bar napkin with a lotto-6-49 pencil.

Or maybe it's the Super Secret Super Cereal Hidden Coke Formula Data that Junkie is always telling us hoi polloi that we are forbidden from seeing.

Miller & Johnston: "trust us brah!"
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: dd on September 22, 2025, 11:45:10 PMI am wondering what the TSN panel has to say about this. Muamba is a Canadian kid as is Davis Sanchez---are these guys going to speak their minds on this or will they be given gag order by their TSN bosses??

They fired the only guy on the panel that ever spoke against the league.  You know who.  "No, I'm not doing to drop it" Dunigan.

Another dot connected: the mysterious firing of Dunigan right when new Commish & Luke enter the scene.  No coincidences.  Dunigan, even as an American, would have been ripping them a new one.  Please oh please someone interview Duni about this -- if he hasn't signed any "no disparagement" clause to silence him for the next 3 years.
Never go full Johnston!

tlf

Hate them.  I stand with Nathan on his speech.  This is not the CFL I grew up with and love.  Sure, make a few small tweaks, maybe the rouge.. but don't touch the 55.  That and the goal post moving :-[  made me the maddest.

Tecno

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 22, 2025, 11:22:24 PMMaybe the guy who is pretty much the driving force behind the Bombers economic and business turnarounds words might calm? The guy knows business and he knows football business.

Or he knows who butters his bread.  We are already one of only 2 teams the league steals money from each season to give to the poor sad peepo in such economically deprived locales as TOR, OTT and BC.

Johnston could have gone to Miller and said <heavy breathing> "pray I don't alter it any further" -- "I could take an extra 30% of your profits to give to the poors next season if you don't comply".
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: TrueBlue75 on September 22, 2025, 11:09:17 PMI just gained a whole lot more respect for Rourke. Good for him airing his displeasure. He's bang on! "That league down south"...lol

a) "I don't want to get sued"
b) "I may still get a job there one day"

But ya, all props to Rourke on this one, no joke.  Legit stand up CFL guy.  Contrast with... WM.
Never go full Johnston!

blue_or_die

Still waiting to hear the data that points to these changes leading to new fans. I'll wait.
#Ride?