Official Game Day Thread - Winnipeg at Ottawa - September 20, 2025

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: markf on September 20, 2025, 09:52:45 PMDid Demski lose his streak today?

Very Lame coaching if so.

I really think Hogan & co thought that Demski catch earlier in the game counted.  But it was taken away with penalty.  That usually makes it so the play "never happened".  Unless there is some strange rule that says it still counts for this kind of silly record?

On our last drive I was saying to the screen -- need to shovel it to Demski because we aren't getting the ball back!
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Sir Blue and Gold


TecnoGenius

Quote from: Sway on September 20, 2025, 09:24:59 PMIs it possible to win and go down in the power rankings?

Yes!  Happened before to other teams.  However, no way we can go lower than OTT!
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Jesse on September 20, 2025, 09:23:27 PMIt's a sham record anyway.

Except it's equally a sham for every REC.  Other teams get their REC gimmicky "catches" too.  Seen it many times with Gino, etc.

So if you accept it for what it is, it's a quirky stat at best.  What it really does measure is a REC's injury-avoidance.  Since you won't always get a pass early in the game, you need to finish games (or get close) to keep your streak going for dozens or 100's of games.  Demski was such a player.
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Blueforlife

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 20, 2025, 11:59:10 PMYa, except on Dru's first 2 drives every single completion (many big) was against Allen one-on-one.  He was brutal to start.  However, hand it to him and Younger, they seemed to find solutions after that.

Good adjustments
Allen is venerable but will learn

TecnoGenius

Quote from: jdrattops on September 20, 2025, 09:14:13 PMThe rules of a defenseless receiver are no more?

CFL has never had such a rule.  After seeing stuff like this I think we need to look to the NFL and institute a defenseless REC rule.

Later in the game we had a chance to blow up a REC on a wide out and our guy (Kramdi?) decided to do a form tackle.  Pickett could have done the same.  It was typical Pickett, and they were probably itching to retaliate for Dru getting hit twice.

The difference is, Dru won't miss any time, but Wheatie is out for weeks with busted ribs and maybe concussion.
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Sir Blue and Gold

Yes there is. It's just thatWheatfall wasn't in what the rules outline as a vulnerable position.

CFL institutes six rule changes for 2025 season, bans low hits on defenceless receivers - 3DownNation https://share.google/lG0YvNR0QGUrZhrqO

Jesse

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 21, 2025, 12:10:23 AMExcept it's equally a sham for every REC.  Other teams get their REC gimmicky "catches" too.  Seen it many times with Gino, etc.

So if you accept it for what it is, it's a quirky stat at best.  What it really does measure is a REC's injury-avoidance.  Since you won't always get a pass early in the game, you need to finish games (or get close) to keep your streak going for dozens or 100's of games.  Demski was such a player.


I think you misunderstand. I'm not talking about gimmicky catches, I'm talking about the fact that they don't count injuries.

Demski has missed many games and, imo, broken his consecutive catch streak multiple times. But they've only been counting games he's played in.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 21, 2025, 12:22:24 AMYes there is. It's just thatWheatfall wasn't in what the rules outline as a vulnerable position.

No there isn't.  Not like there is in the NFL.  Protecting below-the-knee hits would not help in this situation.  NFL has had rules to keep from just blowing players up like this while they are still in the act of catching the ball.  Rules that would protect even a shoulder-to-chest hit.

The issue is can a DB absolutely blow up a REC right as he's catching it, even if "legal", cracking ribs, etc, when a form tackle like Kramdi does on everyone would suffice?

Yes, the CFL has always allowed this hit.  The question is, should we continue?  Pickett got his pass break-up, but Wheatie got put in hospital.  Is it worth it?
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Jesse on September 21, 2025, 12:40:45 AMI think you misunderstand. I'm not talking about gimmicky catches, I'm talking about the fact that they don't count injuries.

Demski has missed many games and, imo, broken his consecutive catch streak multiple times. But they've only been counting games he's played in.

Ya, but there's basically no REC that doesn't miss some time every other season.  Not even Demski.  If you went with those rules, then you'd have a max of 10 or 14 for that stat, and it would be even more silly.  Or what about if they put the REC on the PR for a week?

The only way that would make sense is if Fatboi was a REC.  He's the only player who never misses a game.

I think my point about in-game injuries is still more apropos.  If you get knocked out early in games all the time, you're unlikely to get far in this stat.
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Sir Blue and Gold

Usually the criteria applied in the NFL is:

High contact, to the head, neck or shoulders
Launched contact, leaving both feet

This of course assumes the receiver hadn't transitioned to a runner yet which was pretty close but probably not complete.


Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 20, 2025, 10:54:19 PMI find the 10 year old comment disrespectful, not fair or accurate Strev had another bad game but threw a few good balls but mostly bad ones
Good news on Nichols
Yeah 6 game for Wheat
How does Echols look at practice anyone?
Allen looked bad early but came after that.  A great sign and future star in a year or two.

Bad news about Wilson and Parker

That was the worst performance by a Bomber QB I can remember. Take off the Blue and Gold glasses. Nothing is disrespectful about judging a players performance and pathetic.  We won i spite of him.
One game at a time.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 21, 2025, 01:11:14 AMThat was the worst performance by a Bomber QB I can remember.

I don't know... that 2019-throwback near-TD run was pretty cool, and very effective.

Plus, he WON.

Plus #2, he was probably under STRICT instructions to not throw any more INTs.  They knew the ST and D was winning the game.  There is zero reason to take any chances.

Plus #3, did you see how every OTT D was trying to jump the routes on the dumb everyone-curls 2nd & mediums?  I don't blame Strev for not throwing into that crap.   Hogan setting everyone up to fail again.

I think he did exactly what was asked of him, minus that first INT.
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Blueforlife

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 21, 2025, 01:11:14 AMThat was the worst performance by a Bomber QB I can remember. Take off the Blue and Gold glasses. Nothing is disrespectful about judging a players performance and pathetic.  We won i spite of him.
It's not hard to be critical and respectful
Nothing to due with glasses

Jesse

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 21, 2025, 01:08:43 AMYa, but there's basically no REC that doesn't miss some time every other season.  Not even Demski.  If you went with those rules, then you'd have a max of 10 or 14 for that stat, and it would be even more silly. Or what about if they put the REC on the PR for a week?

The only way that would make sense is if Fatboi was a REC.  He's the only player who never misses a game.

I think my point about in-game injuries is still more apropos.  If you get knocked out early in games all the time, you're unlikely to get far in this stat.


If that's what the record is, then that's what it is.

But saying it's a consecutive games with a reception record when there are games that occurred in which he did not record a reception is absolutely nonsensical to me.
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