We need a QB for the be future and a good backup!

Started by Austin85, September 14, 2025, 12:54:54 AM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on September 20, 2025, 05:43:16 AMLosers?? Didn't Cody win a Grey Cup against us, ah ya, he did. And didn't Arbuckle win a Grey Cup against us, ah ya, I believe he did, it was last year. So those 2 losers have beaten us, so what does that make us??

Ya, I fully know about their cup status.  They won those cups because their teams were clearly best-in-league with tons of ELC IMPs and ELC DPs tipping the balance.  Cody didn't win the game so much as Ento/Dequoy.  Arbuckle didn't win so much as Henoc & McManus, Dinwiddie, and that OL.

Neither Cody nor Arbuckle will ever win a cup again, unless they are handed the clearly-best team in the league again (and even then...).

Zach got us to a cup, and kept us in all but 1 (sliced finger), 5 times in a row.  That's a real HOF QB.  That's where Alexander/Kelly/Rourke are headed.
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dd

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 20, 2025, 05:50:04 AMYa, I fully know about their cup status.  They won those cups because their teams were clearly best-in-league with tons of ELC IMPs and ELC DPs tipping the balance.  Cody didn't win the game so much as Ento/Dequoy.  Arbuckle didn't win so much as Henoc & McManus, Dinwiddie, and that OL.

Neither Cody nor Arbuckle will ever win a cup again, unless they are handed the clearly-best team in the league again (and even then...).

Zach got us to a cup, and kept us in all but 1 (sliced finger), 5 times in a row.  That's a real HOF QB.  That's where Alexander/Kelly/Rourke are headed.

Cody threw the 3rd down bomb that killed us. He's a solid QB and given decent personnel around him, could win it again. He's dying in Edmonton, but I doubt he'd want to come here with our mickey mouse OC and offense. He ain't no fool.

Waffler

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 19, 2025, 10:58:55 PMBut BLM was clearly "done" with noodle arm and crossed-eyes and Brohm-turfitis.  He was so done that CGY rolled with never-win Maier.  HAM was taking a HUGE gamble on BLM, and really only did it because there was literally nothing else out there to do.

That's why BLM was paid half of Zach.  It's actually a miracle BLM was able to get dialed in again.  Quite shocking.  Not sure I've ever before seen a washed-up 40yo QB have 3 years of complete suckage then light it up again.


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Waffler

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 20, 2025, 03:16:07 AMBut any QB we'd want instead will be the same price or higher.
There are 2 QB's paid more than Zach, Rourke and Kelly.  Every one else is making at least 150k less.

Full list:
https://3downnation.com/2025/04/14/qb1-money-cfls-highest-paid-quarterbacks-for-the-2025-season/
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 19, 2025, 10:58:55 PMBut BLM was clearly "done" with noodle arm and crossed-eyes and Brohm-turfitis.  He was so done that CGY rolled with never-win Maier.  HAM was taking a HUGE gamble on BLM, and really only did it because there was literally nothing else out there to do.

That's why BLM was paid half of Zach.  It's actually a miracle BLM was able to get dialed in again.  Quite shocking.  Not sure I've ever before seen a washed-up 40yo QB have 3 years of complete suckage then light it up again.


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theaardvark

So VA3 goes down in CGY, and then their #2 follows with what looked like a broken arm.  They are on #3 (a NAT TE drafted this year).

So, picking up a release from MTL just got competitive.

If Streveler has anything more than a 1' leash, I think it is incompetent coaching.  The tough decision HAS TO BE MADE. 

I know Streveler thinks he can do the job, his quote "It's on me. It starts with me, and I've got to keep doing a better job."  My problem is "keep doing".  He thinks he is doing a good job.  And I get that confidence in your performance is important.  But when you aren't doing a good job, and are actually regressing, this is actually a self deluding statement.

Again, love Streveler and the emotion and drive he brings, but he just does not have the tools or ability to back up his confidence.
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theaardvark

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 20, 2025, 05:50:04 AMYa, I fully know about their cup status.  They won those cups because their teams were clearly best-in-league with tons of ELC IMPs and ELC DPs tipping the balance.  Cody didn't win the game so much as Ento/Dequoy.  Arbuckle didn't win so much as Henoc & McManus, Dinwiddie, and that OL.

Neither Cody nor Arbuckle will ever win a cup again, unless they are handed the clearly-best team in the league again (and even then...).

Zach got us to a cup, and kept us in all but 1 (sliced finger), 5 times in a row.  That's a real HOF QB.  That's where Alexander/Kelly/Rourke are headed.


There is no doubt we don't have a dynastic team without Zach's contribution.

But his performance is waning, and there comes a time where you have to make the tough decision to move on.

We've done it with Jeffcoat, Alexander, and even Harris and Bighill.  And none of the arch is presently on. The benefit of being trotted out there even though their effectiveness was declining.

Sure, position players are more easily replaced and moved on from.  But still...
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TBURGESS

We became dominant when we got Collaros. We've been going down hill as he goes down hill. 
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Pete

 After this game how does Terry Wilson look at any of his teammates without feeling like he doesn't belong.
For him not to be put in after that display by Streveler means that OSHea/Hogan don't trust him not to lose the game for them.
Its beyond me to understand why they kept him if thats how they feel. Once again we dont identify our weaknesses and try to fix them nearly enough.
(btw this isn't an inditement on Wilson we haven't seen what he can do, this is on the organization)

BlueInCgy

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 19, 2025, 10:58:55 PMBut BLM was clearly "done" with noodle arm and crossed-eyes and Brohm-turfitis.  He was so done that CGY rolled with never-win Maier.  HAM was taking a HUGE gamble on BLM, and really only did it because there was literally nothing else out there to do.

That's why BLM was paid half of Zach.  It's actually a miracle BLM was able to get dialed in again.  Quite shocking.  Not sure I've ever before seen a washed-up 40yo QB have 3 years of complete suckage then light it up again.


You do know Google exists right?  Bo is currently 35.

BlueInCgy

Wilson must have two broken arms and two broken legs if he can't get injected in a game where Streveler doesn't even attempt 10 passes. 

Sway

Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 21, 2025, 12:23:10 AMWilson must have two broken arms and two broken legs if he can't get injected in a game where Streveler doesn't even attempt 10 passes. 

That's a logical conclusion but , you have to think like the most stubborn football coach in the history of football and not playing him makes perfect sense.

BlueInCgy

Quote from: Sway on September 21, 2025, 12:28:10 AMThat's a logical conclusion but , you have to think like the most stubborn football coach in the history of football and not playing him makes perfect sense.

Yeah the second part of my comment which I deleted was far less complimentary than that

Pete

just for fun; which backup qb has the most wins this year? (Arbuckle btw is no longer a backup)

TecnoGenius

Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 21, 2025, 12:19:46 AMYou do know Google exists right?  Bo is currently 35.

Holy smokes people.  Don't you understand when hyperbole and estimation are used for dramatic effect?

In any event, I don't care a bit if they are 5 or 3 years short of 40.  They are "old" in QB terms, positively geriatric (as is Trevor).

Just because the CFL is hard up for quality QBs doesn't negate the truth of the matter.
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