Official Game Day Thread - Winnipeg at Hamilton - September 12, 2025

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Quote from: theaardvark on September 11, 2025, 05:12:13 PM"The Bombers are 2-0 with Streveler starting" is such a load of hooey that I cannot believe they are foisting it on us fans.

We have seen just how bad Strevy can be, especially in extended play.

This is THE MOMENT that you need to put Wilson in, or just cut him loose.  If he's not in line to be Zach's replacement (we KNOW Streveler is not that guy), then lets move on.

We need someone we can hand the ball to is Zach is done for the season.  That's not Streveler, who gets us a 50% chance AT BEST to win.

I expect Paterson or Dukes to be cut in MTL shortly enough, Paterson was here for a cup of coffee, Wilson got the nod then, does he still today?

Strev needs to be on a very short leash if he gets this start.  Behind at the half, Wilson should start the 2nd.

It would probably take a blow out by half for O'Shea to make the switch, but even then I think he would delay it till the last 3 minutes.

Blueforlife

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 11, 2025, 04:48:42 PMWhat does that have to do with Strevler starting over Wilson?
Nothing and wasn't a fair comparison imo
Agree with all you have said here about the QBs and comparison which was a big stretch imo
I don't agree that our O is a joke
I don't agree with the Zipp on this one
Alexander is a rare very good QB who came on early in his 1st number of experiences and is already a top QB, which is extremely rare for his age and level of experience, reminds me of Bo's early success
Cody is an established vet who I don't like but has shown a consistent ability to win and a great deal of resilience this season
Strev can win you a game or two but hasn't shown a consistent ability to throw medium to deep and throws a lot of ints, a warrior and I love him and is our best change to win,  which is a low probability tomorrow
Wilson is raw, unproven and not likely ready but needs reps and has the tools and I would sprinkle him in Fri or if Strev fails badly
Quote from: Pete on September 11, 2025, 02:39:47 PMStuborness is continuing to trot out Ayers with 0 tackles in last 2 games
In only 2 games all year has he made more than 1 tackle. Yet we need to dress Kornelson to fill in on our dline cause we are only dressing 6 dline, and we are weakening our oline by not having Vanderpool. ( Which currently are our 2 biggest weaknesses other than qb)

I have debated with others about Ayers in the lineup all season, a player who I believe has shown promise and versitlity
I can't defend or support the lineup decision in this regard
My thoughts of him go back to more of his play last season but I did notice him make a place recently I think
On the fence on this one but would be interesting to know who others would replace him with
I want to see Woods at some point

The Zipp

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 11, 2025, 05:28:14 PMAn argument that has to rely on maybes isn't sound, IMO.

Streveler's the next man up, ostensibly based on his experience when compared to Wilson who's made one pass completion in his CFL career thus far.

Of course it could be possible that a less experienced QB is better but I can understand a team not making decisions based on hypotheticals.

Montreal made the decision based on 21 pass attempts in 2 seasons - gotta be a maybe or two in there - I do think they have much better QB evaluators on their team than we do (Maas and Calvillo).  They turfed a QB winning QB for someone who threw 14 completions over 2 seasons.

The Strev start is the safe play - I hope they have some agreement to see what the next Davis Alexander can do.

Jesse

Quote from: The Zipp on September 11, 2025, 06:07:35 PMMontreal made the decision based on 21 pass attempts in 2 seasons - gotta be a maybe or two in there - I do think they have much better QB evaluators on their team than we do (Maas and Calvillo).  They turfed a QB winning QB for someone who threw 14 completions over 2 seasons.

The Strev start is the safe play - I hope they have some agreement to see what the next Davis Alexander can do.

They're making the decision based on what they've seen from a guy for 2 years. Our coaches have watched Wilson for the last 1.5 seasons and are still starting the ghost of Chris Streveler over him.

You may not like that he's our best option, but lets not put in a worse option "just because".
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The Zipp

Quote from: Jesse on September 11, 2025, 06:42:50 PMThey're making the decision based on what they've seen from a guy for 2 years. Our coaches have watched Wilson for the last 1.5 seasons and are still starting the ghost of Chris Streveler over him.

You may not like that he's our best option, but lets not put in a worse option "just because".

I would trust Calvillo and Maas over MOS, Hogan and Jackson...

I don't attend practice so I don't even have a personal view of Wilson.  We are going in circles but Wilson might actually be better than Strev...the bar isn't very high with Strev at the moment.  Fajardo was playing much better than Strev is right now.


Pete

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 11, 2025, 05:49:28 PMNothing and wasn't a fair comparison imo
Agree with all you have said here about the QBs and comparison which was a big stretch imo
I don't agree that our O is a joke
I don't agree with the Zipp on this one
Alexander is a rare very good QB who came on early in his 1st number of experiences and is already a top QB, which is extremely rare for his age and level of experience, reminds me of Bo's early success
Cody is an established vet who I don't like but has shown a consistent ability to win and a great deal of resilience this season
Strev can win you a game or two but hasn't shown a consistent ability to throw medium to deep and throws a lot of ints, a warrior and I love him and is our best change to win,  which is a low probability tomorrow
Wilson is raw, unproven and not likely ready but needs reps and has the tools and I would sprinkle him in Fri or if Strev fails badly I don't see a reason to call me out here, I have debated with others about Ayers in the lineup all season, a player who I believe has shown promise and versitlity
I can't defend or support the lineup decision in this regard
My thoughts of him go back to more of his play last season but I did notice him make a place recently I think
On the fence on this one but would be interesting to know who others would replace him with
I want to see Woods at some point
Sorry blue, I wasnt calling you out, just meant it is difficult for anyone to defend this particular decision even someone who is very pro bombers

Sir Blue and Gold

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The Bombers coaching staff seem suffering from what an academic might suggest is cogitative entrenchment. They've become too anchored into one way to construct a roster they are missing obvious alternatives. 

We don't use the (not even new anymore) roster rules. We are dedicated to a seemingly pigeon-holed cooker cutter plan. We desperately need a pass rush more than we need an import special teamer in Ayers, for example, but Jake Thomas is starting and he's been backed up by the guy we cut three weeks ago. That makes less than no sense.

We've got nine Canadian starting spots. Our biggest challenge with our backup QUARTERBACK is that he can't throw the ball or read a zone. If Wilson is truly worse than Chris Streveler then what does that say about their ability to develop talent from that position?

They need to step back and evaluate if they are truly making the right decisions for 2025 or if they are just so set on following a blue print that used to work that they cannot see the wisdom in anything else.  And if they don' t or can't, I honestly believe they would be well served to bring in someone with fresh eyes for the purposes of evaluation and making suggestions.

blue_gold_84

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What a craptacular timeline.
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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 11, 2025, 03:26:10 PMWe might lose by two TDs but at least we're starting nine Canadians. Will also be exciting to see if Jake Thomas can make it 10 defensive tackles in 13 games or if he remains stuck at 9. If that's not exciting enough, you will find out if lucky number game 13 is the one registers his first sack of the season!
You are  funny in a good way and these valid bulletin points are ridiculous to read. Goes to show how incapable this regime has become.
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Blueforlife

Quote from: Pete on September 11, 2025, 07:15:54 PMSorry blue, I wasnt calling you out, just meant it is difficult for anyone to defend this particular decision even someone who is very pro bombers
Ah I get it now, apology accepted even though I understand the sentiment now and one wasn't needed but that kind of you

BBRT

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 11, 2025, 07:43:14 PMYou are  funny in a good way and these valid bulletin points are ridiculous to read. Goes to show how incapable this regime has become.

What amazes me is how incapable the current regime has become. And it not just an overnight thing. IMHO and only my opinion the management team from the GM on down went to sleep last year and has not woke up! Horrible recruiting and a lack of awareness in terms of having to replace talent that has left us with an equal talent. Really poor management decisions IMHO.

theaardvark

Ott signed Dru Brown as thier starter with less than 1500 yards total in the CFL.

Wilson has a 100% completion rate in the CFL...  ;D

And now with Pokey back, the Wilson throws the Wilson to Wilson is there for the broadcasters.

I'm just saying, we've seen all the film on Streveler, and while he flashes and the team has won in spite of his performances, we truly have nothing to lose by looking for a Better answer.

Dru left for a reason... unless they are so happy with Chase, they are risking Wilson as well...
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bunker

The roster on defense is truly bizarre. We have 10 "linebackers" including 5 Americans, covering 3 positions, even though we play a Canadian at SAM. One of the Americans  will get essentially no reps on D (Ayers), and the other 2 will be only situational. Meanwhile, we have only 6 D-lineman, and all the DTs are Canadian. We are starting 9 Canadians overall. Are Woods and Adams that bad? Can we not find an American O-lineman who is an upgrade on Kolankowski or Wallace? If so our American scouts should be fired. And if the American talent on the sidelines is actually better, then Miller should pull O'Shea and Walters into his office and ask them what is going on here.

Our D was actually not bad against the Riders. But its hard to believe it could not be better with some talented American D-lineman rather than Thomas and Kornelson.

dd


Pete

Does it feel like Walters and O'Shea are on the same page? And why has noone talked to Walters since training camp?