Chad Kelly

Started by The Zipp, September 06, 2025, 11:55:35 PM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: The Zipp on September 06, 2025, 11:55:35 PMno idea on his contract status for next year..i would support a trade for him if Zach is done for the season.

a) Zach isn't done.  We've literally seen this a dozen times.

b) TOR won't trade Kelly for anything, even all our DPs for the next 5 years.

c) Half the fans hate Kelly because they think he was violent (false), or he's a creep (true).

d) Kelly is probably damaged into uselessness.  I had a buddy shatter his leg like that and get plates and screws and everything and 20 years later he still limps like crazy and can't run for poop.  Kelly earned his chops on being mobile.  Now take that away... is he as valuable?
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on September 07, 2025, 01:03:26 AMArbuckle all the way. By far and away the best option out there. No to dry brown waaaay to injury prone

Bring on arbuckle and some me D line and O line help

We could have had Arbuckle for a song & dance when nobody wanted him.  TOR took him because there was no one else, not because they thought he was a future starter.  Everyone considered him washed up before he won the cup.

Oh ya, and what's TOR's record this season with Arbuckle starting?  Ya, like we want that here.  And TOR's OL is great and REC corps is above average!  Imagine Arbuckle here with zero time to throw.  Ya, not happening.

Nope, if we get the Next QB in FA, it's going to be a younger superstar: Alexander, Alexander, or maybe Alexander.  Or if we want to cheap out and take a flyer: Powell.

The Cody's & Arbuckles of the CFL won't do any better here than they are on their current teams, which is .500 at best.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 07, 2025, 02:38:20 AMI'll revise my previous forecast - we don't make the playoffs with Zach, we definitely won't with anyone else.

We'll easily make the playoffs, maybe even a home spot.  Dooming will get you no where.  Remember, VAJ & Trev, only 1 hit...
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 07, 2025, 05:15:37 AMWe'll easily make the playoffs, maybe even a home spot.  Dooming will get you no where.  Remember, VAJ & Trev, only 1 hit...


I think they'll make 3rd place as long as BC doesn't go on a run, which they could.  Problem is I don't think the Bombers have the horsepower to get past the first round, when the chips are down, they fall over now more often than not.

theaardvark

Perfect moment for Elgersma to come north, rip[ it up like Rourke, and maybe get another look down south.

Sounds like he's a quick study, and we know he knows 3 down ball.
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bluebeard

It's my understanding Arbuckle signed for 26.
Fajardo only signed a 1 year so far.
Crum could be available in Ottawa.
Will Ford be trade bate in Edmonton?
harris will sign in Regina.  Maier 1 year contract.

Pickings are slim out there. >:(

tlf

Quote from: The Zipp on September 06, 2025, 11:55:35 PMno idea on his contract status for next year..i would support a trade for him if Zach is done for the season. 

As a female I'd never set food in the stadium again and I'd give up my seasons.  I know others would not support this as well.  Hell no. I cannot believe Toronto still employs this creep and the CFL allows it. Gross.

Just my opinion of course, but I'd be done with going to games or spending any money on this team.

Blueforlife

Quote from: tlf on September 08, 2025, 12:26:25 AMAs a female I'd never set food in the stadium again and I'd give up my seasons.  I know others would not support this as well.  Hell no. I cannot believe Toronto still employs this creep and the CFL allows it. Gross.

Just my opinion of course, but I'd be done with going to games or spending any money on this team.
Proud of you for saying that and sticking to your convictions.  Hard to argue with you.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: bluebeard on September 07, 2025, 10:59:22 PMPickings are slim out there. >:(

That doesn't include potential FA though.  We could get anyone we wanted (Alexander, Alexander, or Alexander) if we, early on, let it "slip out" we wanted to pay "a top QB" $700k + $200k MMM.  Everyone has a price to jump their current ship (cough Kenny).  The key is to get the word out before their existing team locks them in (like the day after the GC).
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 07, 2025, 05:46:53 PMI think they'll make 3rd place as long as BC doesn't go on a run, which they could.  Problem is I don't think the Bombers have the horsepower to get past the first round, when the chips are down, they fall over now more often than not.

I think we can.  As Mr. Banned said, we do have most everything we need in-house.  Keep doing the strategic adds we've been doing and we can fix the "talent" issues.

I think the bigger issue is upping our braintrust game on O.  I don't care what "collaboration" needs to be done, but they all need to get a'collaboratin' right now.  Our schemes suck, we use the most basic playbook in the CFL, nothing is ever new, no one falls for anything, RECs are swamped on every catch, and we don't double-bluff anyone to overcome our limitations and tendencies.

I'm not saying Hogan is a failure, I'm saying the effort and brain level put in to date is 1/10th what is required.  And practice level.  Everyone in the halls of PAS need to massively up their effort.

The buck stops with MOS.  He needs to step in and make sure these things get done.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: tlf on September 08, 2025, 12:26:25 AMAs a female I'd never set food in the stadium again and I'd give up my seasons.  I know others would not support this as well.  Hell no. I cannot believe Toronto still employs this creep and the CFL allows it. Gross.

And that would be a consideration that Wade would take seriously.  They'd certainly have to run a STH focus group ahead of time to gauge reactions.

However, we do have to keep in mind that probably a (vast?) majority of STHs have no idea about Kelly's antics.  Not everyone reads 3down or the Sun.

It's a silly thing to ponder, though, because it'll never happen, way before it ever gets to the "how would WPG fans feel" stage.

But how about that Alexander guy?  You see him on the sidelines in the MTL games these past weeks!  He's like a kid on Christmas.  That's the kid you want on your team, especially since he's the best (so far) of his generation.  I think he's miles better than Rourke.
Never go full Rider!

dd

Quote from: theaardvark on September 07, 2025, 07:58:35 PMPerfect moment for Elgersma to come north, rip[ it up like Rourke, and maybe get another look down south.

Sounds like he's a quick study, and we know he knows 3 down ball.
He played in last year's cannier cup and sucked/was outplayed by the other Qb who's team won the cup. Can't beliece this guy got an nfl look, and I assure you, he ain't no Rourke, not even remotely close. People are putting huge expectations on this guy and I think he gets cut if and when he finally does come to camp.

Mikerahl

Could you imagine getting all your STH to lock-in for 3 years to secure Grey Cup tickets and then after self-destructing that season turn around and signing someone who was suspended for half a year due to the CFLs Violence Against Women Policy because an Argonauts Trainer was fired due to refusing his repeated sexual advances?

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Mikerahl on September 08, 2025, 05:37:26 AMCould you imagine getting all your STH to lock-in for 3 years to secure Grey Cup tickets and then after self-destructing that season turn around and signing someone who was suspended for half a year due to the CFLs Violence Against Women Policy because an Argonauts Trainer was fired due to refusing his repeated sexual advances?

It's a silly thread because there is 0% chance of that happening.  It's impossible.  Kelly is not coming here, for many reasons.  Kelly is staying in TOR.

Have you seen TOR's record without Kelly?  They NEED Kelly.  Arbuckle isn't anyone's future.  If he was the best thing ever he'd have a record like VAJ or even BLM.  Kelly will come back just in time for the playoffs and, assuming they make it, he'll likely lead them to EDF or GC.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Jesse on September 07, 2025, 12:21:39 AMI don't think I'm watching any games if we have have Chad Kelly starting. That would alienate me as a fan.

Ditto. Hard pass on that petulant headcase.
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What a craptacular timeline.
Hogan is no hero.