Injuries headed into BB

Started by Blueforlife, September 01, 2025, 08:55:27 PM

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Strevy

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 03, 2025, 05:13:42 PMKramdi is back practising. That helps any issue with ratio changes we might want to make.

Good, now sit JT and Logan get Woods and Adams on , Nationalize Willy find a way to get J.Jones out there and bring the heat all game.

The players for a dominant roster are all there.  Just have to use them.....

Pete

Looks like Schoen is not "Good to go"

barbk

Quote from: Pete on September 03, 2025, 07:01:15 PMLooks like Schoen is not "Good to go"
Schoen is only hurting the team not playing 100 percent IMO.
Let him be ready for playoffs.

Throw Long Bannatyne

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Quote from: barbk on September 03, 2025, 07:19:37 PMSchoen is only hurting the team not playing 100 percent IMO.
Let him be ready for playoffs.

He may no longer be the receiver he was who exploited the waggle and burned secondaries on deep routes, but surely they can turn him into the older Weston Dressler model who can be a great short-medium possession receiver that flows to the holes.

Blue In BC

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Quote from: Strevy on September 03, 2025, 06:43:11 PMGood, now sit JT and Logan get Woods and Adams on , Nationalize Willy find a way to get J.Jones out there and bring the heat all game.

The players for a dominant roster are all there.  Just have to use them.....

I don't know we'll see either import DT let alone 2. You're suggesting adding 3 imports but only taking out 1, so that math alone doesn't work with the ratio. In order to do that we'd have to take out Ayers and Woodbey. Person would be an option but he's playing well and our only rotational player at DE.

It also creates an issue of Vaval possibly being the returner and starting CB.

Looking at the daily IR report doesn't look good. Wallace is nicked but Vanterpool doesn't appear ready either.

I think we expect Houston on the AR this week and that might bump either Vaval or Lawson as starters but Vaval could then bump Logan as the returner.

Not honestly sure which CB will get bumped but had thought earlier Lawson would be that player.
One game at a time.

bwiser

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 03, 2025, 09:20:32 PMI don't know we'll see either import DT let alone 2. You're suggesting adding 3 imports but only taking out 1, so that math alone doesn't work with the ratio. In order to do that we'd have to take out Ayers and Woodbey. Person would be an option but he's playing well and our only rotational player at DE.

It also creates an issue of Vaval possibly being the returner and starting CB.

Looking at the daily IR report doesn't look good. Wallace is nicked but Vanterpool doesn't appear ready either.

I think we expect Houston on the AR this week and that might bump either Vaval or Lawson as starters but Vaval could then bump Logan as the returner.

Not honestly sure which CB will get bumped but had thought earlier Lawson would be that player.
Lawson has been a lot better the last couple games. The secondary has been pretty good for the last few games.They got beat once deep but for the most part did a pretty good job covering and limited Harris to a mediocre outing

Strevy

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Quote from: Blue In BC on September 03, 2025, 09:20:32 PMI don't know we'll see either import DT let alone 2. You're suggesting adding 3 imports but only taking out 1, so that math alone doesn't work with the ratio. In order to do that we'd have to take out Ayers and Woodbey. Person would be an option but he's playing well and our only rotational player at DE.

It also creates an issue of Vaval possibly being the returner and starting CB.

Looking at the daily IR report doesn't look good. Wallace is nicked but Vanterpool doesn't appear ready either.

I think we expect Houston on the AR this week and that might bump either Vaval or Lawson as starters but Vaval could then bump Logan as the returner.

Not honestly sure which CB will get bumped but had thought earlier Lawson would be that player.

Logan off, Ayers off is the move I would make.  J. Jones can play teams and pass rush would be the focus.  Look what Calgary did, imagine T.Harris against a fierce pass rush with the PAS crowd noise.

Put him on his back early and often while stuffing the run. A fresh Willy J would create havoc on second and long, 25 snaps would be plenty. Nothing else matters then. Keep them around 150-200 total yards on O and we win a landslide.

They can make it happen, if they wanted.

Blueforlife

I wouldn't take Ayers or Logan out but there are going to be some important roster decisions

See who is healthy and we will know more

JT isn't coming out full stop

I want to see Woods get some action

Blue In BC

Weitz was moved to the 1 game IR. That answers that part of what I was wondering. IMO we add another Canadian to play on ST's, most likely Hallett who does well there.
One game at a time.

Strevy


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Quote from: Blueforlife on September 03, 2025, 10:18:31 PMI wouldn't take Ayers or Logan out but there are going to be some important roster decisions

See who is healthy and we will know more

JT isn't coming out full stop

I want to see Woods get some action

JT won't come out, but he should.  At the very least not see the field unless injuries pile up on the line.  He adds an extra steamboat every time he is out there and he struggles against the run getting washed out more often than not.  He is not even a rotational piece I would want at this point.

J. Jones was a big free agent signing and is a beast on D.  Needs to play.  Logan has been a big nothing burger and is not a difference maker, not a must have.  Returning or on O.

Top three things to focus on this week against a poor Rider O-line is Pass Rush, Pass Rush, Pass Rush.  Followed by stuffing the run.  Do what Calgary did.


bunker

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 03, 2025, 10:27:37 PMWeitz was moved to the 1 game IR. That answers that part of what I was wondering. IMO we add another Canadian to play on ST's, most likely Hallett who does well there.

Sure wish we had spent some money in the off season on impact players rather than rotating everyone and his dog into the one game IR.

Blue In BC

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Quote from: bunker on September 03, 2025, 10:51:49 PMSure wish we had spent some money in the off season on impact players rather than rotating everyone and his dog into the one game IR.

I think he's actually nicked but I don't know why they added him to the AR. The 2nd global is usually added when we have Canadian injuries and we did / still do.

He's also a LB and the last thing we need is another LB that is 10th on the depth chart. We just added another global LB to the PR but he has some skill and survived on NFL rosters for a few seasons.

In theory we thought we signed some impact players in free agency: J. Jones, D. Mitchell and Sterns. No idea J. Jones got bumped to PR although Woodbey may have passed him on the depth chart by being better in practice?

Either of those two offer more than Ayers in my opinion. It just seems O'Shea has a " **** " for ST specialists. Yes he does play well on teams but is that the best use of a DI?

Does anyone think he'd be next up at WIL or MLB if we have an injury?

I like the guy but I want a contributor on defensive rotation more than an ST only player.
One game at a time.

Pete

Quote from: Strevy on September 03, 2025, 10:43:03 PMJT won't come out, but he should.  At the very least not see the field unless injuries pile up on the line.  He adds an extra steamboat every time he is out there and he struggles against the run getting washed out more often than not.  He is not even a rotational piece I would want at this point.

J. Jones was a big free agent signing and is a beast on D.  Needs to play.  Logan has been a big nothing burger and is not a difference maker, not a must have.  Returning or on O.

Top three likeee things to focus on this week against a poor Rider O-line is Pass Rush, Pass Rush, Pass Rush.  Followed by stuffing the run.  Do what Calgary did.


I've actually liked Woodbeys play more than Jones, Id like to see
out Logan (vaval is better)
     ayers
     lawton
     Smeckle injured
     Weitz  injured
     Schoen injured

in   Woods, Wilson, Houston, Kramdi, Petersen
It would have been good to add in another olineman but not sure we have much available, which could be a real problem if Wallace is hurt
     

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Blue In BC

Quote from: Pete on September 03, 2025, 11:22:35 PMI've actually liked Woodbeys play more than Jones, Id like to see
out Logan (vaval is better)
     ayers
     lawton
     Smeckle injured
     Weitz  injured
     Schoen injured

in   Woods, Wilson, Houston, Kramdi, Petersen
It would have been good to add in another olineman but not sure we have much available, which could be a real problem if Wallace is hurt
     

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I'm not sure how to compare Woods over Adams. Both getting demoted to PR didn't help. Our defence had one of their better games using the 3 Canadian DT's but now Schmekel is injured. Adding Kornelson directly to the AR suggests that is still the plan.

Without understanding the logic of moving the 2 imports to the PR, I don't know what to think or expect.

Vaval is a better returner now but Logan might be better after a few more games. The catch is that this week is game 12 and missing so much of the season didn't help his cause.

We don't want Vaval to have to start at CB and do all the returning but we'll have to see who Houston replaces in the secondary. If Lawson stays then Vaval could bump Logan.

Woodbey didn't look out of place but it was 1 game.
One game at a time.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 03, 2025, 11:33:08 PMI'm not sure how to compare Woods over Adams. Both getting demoted to PR didn't help. Our defence had one of their better games using the 3 Canadian DT's but now Schmekel is injured. Adding Kornelson directly to the AR suggests that is still the plan.

Without understanding the logic of moving the 2 imports to the PR, I don't know what to think or expect.

Vaval is a better returner now but Logan might be better after a few more games. The catch is that this week is game 12 and missing so much of the season didn't help his cause.

We don't want Vaval to have to start at CB and do all the returning but we'll have to see who Houston replaces in the secondary. If Lawson stays then Vaval could bump Logan.

Woodbey didn't look out of place but it was 1 game.
Yup the CDN depth at DL is important will continue
Woods and Adams are similar, another poster weeks ago had a good comparison from last year, can't remember what they said or who
Agree about Logan, needs time to season
Vaval will get burnt out if plays both spots
Hopefully Houston is ready
Woodbey looked ok