Injuries headed into BB

Started by Blueforlife, September 01, 2025, 08:55:27 PM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Waffler on September 02, 2025, 08:08:59 PM"I could tell I wasn't going to get there on time," Schoen said. [/i]

Not only was he open and on time, he had to wait.

Maybe he meant for the tackle on the INTer?  Or maybe he meant on a come-forward attempt (which would have helped draw DPI)?

Or maybe he's trying to cover for his QB?  We all can see that he was early to the spot, not late.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 02, 2025, 04:24:36 PMOn another note I wonder if Vibert has had or is getting any reps on the DL. He's a big guy. It's not unusual to see lineman on both sides of the ball. He's the only Canadian that might fill the bill to get some reps. Seems unlikely but a question.

Hmmmm. Eli as a depth DL. same size as Schmekel. Along with some 3 man fronts and 3 DE's in 4 man fronts is that an option? Our DT's are more fill the gap than get to the QB.

As people said in another thread, OL->DT is not the easy transition you'd think it would be ("just be fat but not too slow").  DTs need more stamina.  That's why they are always spelling and you (should) dress 4 for 2 spots.

Now, moving DL to OT is easier because there it really is "are you fat and have done this before"?  The difference is DTs usually aren't as tall, or as fat.  Not to minimize OL skill set, because a DT subbing in usually doesn't turn out so hot.

Now, what we should be talking about is if Schmekel is gone, and if we aren't thrilled with our IMP DT roster, maybe this is the much-needed impetus to go score a game-changing DT somehow?  And I mean now, not FA.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 02, 2025, 03:39:43 PMCould use Hallett back after probably losing Ball

How long can you possibly be out with a poke or marbles to the eye??  Maybe we just wanted an excuse to see more of Ball?  Hallett is far preferable to any rookie STer, except maybe Shay, IMHO.
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Waffler

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 03, 2025, 06:10:54 AMMaybe he meant for the tackle on the INTer?  Or maybe he meant on a come-forward attempt (which would have helped draw DPI)?

Or maybe he's trying to cover for his QB?  We all can see that he was early to the spot, not late.
I just saw it as protecting his QB from blame.
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Waffler

Quote from: Pigskin on September 03, 2025, 04:10:59 AMWell, it sounds like DS83 is okay after all. That's good news. 

Ok as he is going to be. I would still dress Cobb just in case.
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Waffler

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 03, 2025, 06:10:54 AMOr maybe he's trying to cover for his QB?  We all can see that he was early to the spot, not late.

The reason I say he was protecting his QB is because Collaros used to make that throw. Schoen was open and it was an easy completion, or it should have been.  I posted these separately in other threads but I am putting both here so you can see how he used to throw to that same spot from about the 11 yard line in 2022 compared to 2025.

2022: Watch the play and then the replay from the end zone and you can see the lower ball trajectory, receiver does not break stride.

https://youtu.be/BarieCgaQXE?t=235

2025: Rainbow, ball hangs up too long. Receiver has to wait.

https://youtu.be/nlW-yP1lNUQ?t=592
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Blue In BC

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 03, 2025, 06:15:04 AMAs people said in another thread, OL->DT is not the easy transition you'd think it would be ("just be fat but not too slow").  DTs need more stamina.  That's why they are always spelling and you (should) dress 4 for 2 spots.

Now, moving DL to OT is easier because there it really is "are you fat and have done this before"?  The difference is DTs usually aren't as tall, or as fat.  Not to minimize OL skill set, because a DT subbing in usually doesn't turn out so hot.

Now, what we should be talking about is if Schmekel is gone, and if we aren't thrilled with our IMP DT roster, maybe this is the much-needed impetus to go score a game-changing DT somehow?  And I mean now, not FA.


We know that but it's not that uncommon either. It could be something used a few times just give the others a rest.  It can take years for an OL to develop into a starter.
One game at a time.

bunker

Quote from: Waffler on September 03, 2025, 12:43:04 PMThe reason I say he was protecting his QB is because Collaros used to make that throw. Schoen was open and it was an easy completion, or it should have been.  I posted these separately in other threads but I am putting both here so you can see how he used to throw to that same spot from about the 11 yard line in 2022 compared to 2025.

2022: Watch the play and then the replay from the end zone and you can see the lower ball trajectory, receiver does not break stride.

https://youtu.be/BarieCgaQXE?t=235

2025: Rainbow, ball hangs up too long. Receiver has to wait.

https://youtu.be/nlW-yP1lNUQ?t=592

Definitely thrown a 1/2 second late. The other difference is that the DB broke much earlier and quicker to the ball in 2025.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Waffler on September 03, 2025, 12:43:04 PMThe reason I say he was protecting his QB is because Collaros used to make that throw. Schoen was open and it was an easy completion, or it should have been.  I posted these separately in other threads but I am putting both here so you can see how he used to throw to that same spot from about the 11 yard line in 2022 compared to 2025.

2022: Watch the play and then the replay from the end zone and you can see the lower ball trajectory, receiver does not break stride.

https://youtu.be/BarieCgaQXE?t=235

2025: Rainbow, ball hangs up too long. Receiver has to wait.

https://youtu.be/nlW-yP1lNUQ?t=592


You don't have to reach back to 2022, go back 2 weeks to the Als game and Demski's TD at 2:10 in the video below, that is how the play should have been executed.


Blue In BC

Kramdi is back practising. That helps any issue with ratio changes we might want to make.
One game at a time.

Strevy

Vaval pick 6 on Zach, Pokey looks good.


Blue In BC

Quote from: Strevy on September 03, 2025, 05:43:15 PMVaval pick 6 on Zach, Pokey looks good.



Can you tell which receivers are working on 1's?
One game at a time.

Strevy

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 03, 2025, 05:53:58 PMCan you tell which receivers are working on 1's?

Looked the same, DS out Pokey in.  Houston taking reps on D.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 03, 2025, 06:09:17 AMDon't get confused you guys.  NA (Nationalized American) and DNA (Designated NA) are 2 separate things.

Every team by rule starts that 8th NA (NA or 8th NAT).  Every team designates this.  Many/most don't put it on their chart.  No one cares because every single team has a slew of vets IMPs that qualify so it's really just a no-op.

DNA/DNS is the 25-snap thing for which we get the extra draft pick.  Yes, WFC never uses DNA (though they probably specify on the CFL-eyes-only chart).


Technically speaking the extra draft picks are awarded to the two teams with the highest national snap count at the end of the year and has nothing to do with if we designate anyone or not. Assuming every team uses the 25 snap rule and we don't, we will probably get one of the picks, but we can absolutely still designate a nationalized American and the Canadian we want to swap for 25 snaps and not swap them, which is what I think we may as well do.

Blue In BC

#59
Wallace came off limping seeking assistance. That's not good news unless they planned to add Vanterpool anyway. I'm not opposed to that but it's a ratio adjustment.

Hallett and Kramdi are back at practice which is significant. That said, Kramdi might bump Woodbey back to PR in order to add an import elsewhere.

I think I already mentioned this but I might bump Logan off and let Mitchell do returns. Depends on whether Schoen is out or not. That could give us potentially space for 2 imports like either Adams or Woods and Vanterpool.  Vanterpool might turn out to be a necessity is Wallace is unable to play.
One game at a time.