Injuries headed into BB

Started by Blueforlife, September 01, 2025, 08:55:27 PM

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Waffler

 This is the second year in a row Schoen has torn
the ACL in his left knee. - Free Press

Just hoping there is no other damage in there. Guessing not since he tried to play through it rather than surgery right away.

Heart breaking really. That guy has so much talent, I wish I was watching him play.
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bunker

Very sad about Schoen. Pro sports can be cruel and unforgiving at times.

RebusRankin

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 05, 2025, 08:15:50 PMMOS mentions he tore his ACL in the last CGY game, brutal they let him play again in the LDC, the decision  should have been taken out of his hands.  This looks bad on the organization, Schoen's career is over and he won't be back.

100%

gordo

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 05, 2025, 08:15:50 PMMOS mentions he tore his ACL in the last CGY game, brutal they let him play again in the LDC, the decision  should have been taken out of his hands.  This looks bad on the organization, Schoen's career is over and he won't be back.
I have to agree if they knew he had a torn ACL there is no way he should have been playing. Something doesn't seem right though. They have trainers on staff that should know better.  Did they really know this after the CGY game?

I don't agree though that his career is over. A long recovery for sure but if he wants to rehab and come back then it is possible. Bighill is 9 years older. He keeps coming back from pretty serious injury.

Tom Brady, Adrian Peterson, Carson Palmer, Gronkowski all came back from a torn ACL.  If Schoen wants to put in the work, he can come back.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Waffler on September 05, 2025, 10:54:50 PMThis is the second year in a row Schoen has torn
the ACL in his left knee
. - Free Press

DS's injury situation really deserved it's own thread, but oh well.

Same knee?  He's toast.  We thought he was slow/weak after the 1st injury?  Good luck with the 2nd.  Name me one other REC that came back from that and excelled.

We probably don't sign him again.  Any signing bonus will just be burnt SMS.  And any week he's on 1G or leaves a game is more wasted SMS.

We gambled on Dalton instead of Kenny.  We lost that bet.  (And yes, we could have afforded to match HAM for Kenny if we didn't sign Dalton and if we tapped the $400k, or just decided to go over in a cup year.)
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 05, 2025, 03:46:59 PMI've noticed Ball on ST's and he looks like a keeper. I felt that Hallett could be in his last season with the Bombers but now it's looking like that is happening now. He's healthy and he's not getting onto the AR.

I've seen nothing by Ball to make him look better than any other promising rookie DP.  Hallett is our speed ST edge rusher and kick blocker.  He has some unique skills: crazy twitch, crazy accel.  He's also a speed guy to catch loose returners.

The only reason you would prefer Ball right now to Hallett is if you think Ball can be a starter or near-starter on D within 1-2 years.  Hallett has shown he's last choice to play FS, and won't get any better.  So which is it: special ST talent NOW, or potential legit D option guy LATER.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: gordo on September 05, 2025, 03:40:33 PMNice article on Ball in the Free Press today. Sounds like O'shea really likes this kid and his explosiveness. Grew up a major Rider fan but lots of Bomber Ball jerseys in his family now.

I can't believe Ballsy would ever put on a Blue jersey.  He just wouldn't do it.  Even for his son!

I bet when Ball got drafted by WPG the whole family groaned.
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Jesse

Quote from: TecnoGenius on Today at 02:38:04 AMI can't believe Ballsy would ever put on a Blue jersey.  He just wouldn't do it.  Even for his son!

I bet when Ball got drafted by WPG the whole family groaned.

He posted a pic of himself in a Bomber jersey on socials almost immediately.
My wife is amazing!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Jesse on Today at 02:54:37 AMHe posted a pic of himself in a Bomber jersey on socials almost immediately.

Wow.  I guess SSK fans can't hate him much more anyhow... why not go all in!
Never go full Rider!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Jesse on Today at 02:54:37 AMHe posted a pic of himself in a Bomber jersey on socials almost immediately.

I think he had a twitter post about buying 13 Bomber jerseys for everyone he's related to.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on Today at 03:00:03 AMI think he had a twitter post about buying 13 Bomber jerseys for everyone he's related to.

LOL, I can imagine the scenes & looks around the tree that Christmas morning!
Never go full Rider!

Waffler

Reminds me of the time we hired Ron Lancaster Jr as an assistant coach. Shortly after he showed up at his dad's house for a holiday dinner in a Bomber Jersey. Frowns turned to laughs though.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: TecnoGenius on Today at 02:36:48 AMI've seen nothing by Ball to make him look better than any other promising rookie DP.  Hallett is our speed ST edge rusher and kick blocker.  He has some unique skills: crazy twitch, crazy accel.  He's also a speed guy to catch loose returners.

The only reason you would prefer Ball right now to Hallett is if you think Ball can be a starter or near-starter on D within 1-2 years.  Hallett has shown he's last choice to play FS, and won't get any better.  So which is it: special ST talent NOW, or potential legit D option guy LATER.


Upside over experience. Lower SMS hit all come into play. I don't know whether Ball will ever be a starter. It's too early to tell.

What we do know is that Hallett will no longer be expected to fill that role. Both are probably behind Kelly at the moment.
One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 01:49:08 PMUpside over experience. Lower SMS hit all come into play. I don't know whether Ball will ever be a starter. It's too early to tell.

What we do know is that Hallett will no longer be expected to fill that role. Both are probably behind Kelly at the moment.

I didn't dig into the previous game day thread to see if anyone picked up on Allen's big whiff on the Nield TD, but on replay that was a terrible decision on his part.  If he had gone for the sure tackle over the knockdown Nield would have been down 30 yds. away from the endzone.  Nichols miss on the final tackle was forgivable as he came all the way across the field to get a shot at him and couldn't get a solid grasp on him.