Elgersma waived

Started by Waffler, August 26, 2025, 09:33:29 PM

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Sir Blue and Gold

Add him and cut Wilson is my vote.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Pete on August 27, 2025, 05:21:45 PMGoes to show how much wait you can put on training camp reports. Im not sure the bombers want Elgersma to sign this year , we still hold his rights and if we cant risk putting  him on pr then which qb do you sit of streveler and wilson?
Other option would be to put him on one games i guess.

It's better if he doesn't sign until 2026. In that way we get the full value of a 3 year deal. Yes he could in theory leave after the 1st year but that seems less likely. In theory he would probably not see much game action in his 1st year.

One game at a time.

Jesse

Quote from: peg_city on August 27, 2025, 04:43:26 PMDoesn't look like he will get a PR spot, per Farhan and a few NFL sources. GB passed on both him and clifford.

Naylor stated he doesn't think he'll sign with the bombers immediately.

My guess is he'll sign in the off season with us then battle it out with Wilson and Chase Artopoeus.

Training camp reports were pretty unanimous that he was a very raw prospect. Fans get excited about preseason numbers but it seems he was never anything more than a camp arm.
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peg_city

Quote from: Jesse on August 27, 2025, 06:14:52 PMTraining camp reports were pretty unanimous that he was a very raw prospect. Fans get excited about preseason numbers but it seems he was never anything more than a camp arm.

I don't watch a lot of NFL football, but I've come to the conclusion (after watching pre-season football as well as a bit of NFL from last season) that there are a handful of CFL QBs who are good enough to make an NFL roster.
 
I'm not saying starting, but better than a number of back-ups. And better than the vast majority of QBs on the PR.

Jesse

Quote from: peg_city on August 27, 2025, 06:24:34 PMI don't watch a lot of NFL football, but I've come to the conclusion (after watching pre-season football as well as a bit of NFL from last season) that there are a handful of CFL QBs who are good enough to make an NFL roster.
 
I'm not saying starting, but better than a number of back-ups. And better than the vast majority of QBs on the PR.

Elgersma specifically was coming out of USports. He just hasn't had the same training for as long as most American QBs.
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Quote from: Blue In BC on August 27, 2025, 05:47:17 PMIt's better if he doesn't sign until 2026. In that way we get the full value of a 3 year deal. Yes he could in theory leave after the 1st year but that seems less likely. In theory he would probably not see much game action in his 1st year.
The alternative is to steal a page from the NHL. Sign him now to burn a year on his entry level contract. That puts him 1 year closer to a payout, assuming he is the real deal.
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CrazyCanuck89

Quote from: peg_city on August 27, 2025, 03:35:49 PMA reminder that most quarterbacks who come to the CFL fail.

Odds are Elgersma doesn't even turn into Streveler.

Difference is Elgersma has all the tools.  Size, accuracy, arm strength and played Canadian football.

markf

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A player that was drafted by an NFL team, probably has a leg up on an undrafted player competing for a spot.

So if they are at all close, the drafted guy will get the spot.

Draft picks are valuable assets, it's a sub industry in the NFL.

if you appear to be wasting those you look bad to the owner. And one step closer to losing  your high paying job. 

peg_city

Quote from: markf on August 27, 2025, 07:29:48 PMA player that was drafted by an NFL team, probably has a leg up on an undrafted player competing for a spot.

So if they are at all close, the drafted guy will get the spot.

Draft picks are valuable assets, it's a sub industry in the NFL.

if you appear to be wasting those you look bad to the owner. And one step closer to losing  your high paying job. 

It's one of the wonderful things about the CFL. No draft for US players, and teams don't care what college you went to, so you get your chance and if you show something, then you get the job.

Pigskin

Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on August 27, 2025, 06:48:35 PMDifference is Elgersma has all the tools.  Size, accuracy, arm strength and played Canadian football.

I agree. He also moves very well. I believe he will be as good as Rourke.
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markf

Quote from: peg_city on August 27, 2025, 07:37:59 PMIt's one of the wonderful things about the CFL. No draft for US players, and teams don't care what college you went to, so you get your chance and if you show something, then you get the job.

Absolutely.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 27, 2025, 06:42:06 PMThe alternative is to steal a page from the NHL. Sign him now to burn a year on his entry level contract. That puts him 1 year closer to a payout, assuming he is the real deal.

That's better for him but not necessarily for the team. He could sign with Winnipeg today and still leave before the start of 2026.
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Pete

Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 27, 2025, 06:42:06 PMThe alternative is to steal a page from the NHL. Sign him now to burn a year on his entry level contract. That puts him 1 year closer to a payout, assuming he is the real deal.
If he wants to return do we have a choice not to sign him and still retain his rights?

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 27, 2025, 06:42:06 PMThe alternative is to steal a page from the NHL. Sign him now to burn a year on his entry level contract. That puts him 1 year closer to a payout, assuming he is the real deal.

Why would a CFL GM bargain away an advantage he has in legal negotiation, unless the player first demanded it? I don't think the CFL has ever had a Lindros situation were a player refused to sign a contract with the team that drafted him.

bunker

Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 27, 2025, 06:42:06 PMThe alternative is to steal a page from the NHL. Sign him now to burn a year on his entry level contract. That puts him 1 year closer to a payout, assuming he is the real deal.
I'm not an expert but I think the calculations in the NHL are different. NHL teams control their draft picks for their entry level and RFA contracts, which is usually 7 years, so much longer than the 3 year control in the CFL. Also, its not only used as a strategy to rewards players in order to get them to sign, but also to allow their contract extensions to occur one year earlier, at a time when the player has produced less, and can be signed for a lower salary. I don't think the same considerations apply in the CFL. But its an interesting idea.