Official Game Day Thread - Winnipeg at Montreal, August 21, 2025

[Pigskin]

A few people jumping on Corcoran. The kid is a 5th round pick. Probably wasn't expected to make the AR. He's 8/9 on the season. And, has mostly been used for blocking.

[Jesse]

Don't care.  SY is only and all about failure rate.  You need it to be max 1 a season.  It should be so automatic from 1.3Y out that you ALWAYS sneak ANYWHERE on the field.

As such Wilson's 20Y romps are fun, but just gravy.

I was disappointed we didn't go for it on 3rd & 1 to 1.5 a couple of times tonight.  I would have.  Either SY QB.

Who's better?  I think we are in a great situation where both are basically money.

But Wilson's rate is better AND he's getting better yardage.

Even some of Strev's successes were within a hair of failure. I don't get why we're forcing this anymore.

[Pigskin]

But Wilson's rate is better AND he's getting better yardage.

Even some of Strev's successes were within a hair of failure. I don't get why we're forcing this anymore.

Yes, Wilson has been very good at SY. He's just a little quicker after receiving the snap, and can find the small crack to get the yardage needed. And, you are right, Wilson's success rate has been better. 

[Blue In BC]

Tony Jones has 68 DT's on the season. He's all over the field!!.

[Pigskin]

Vaughters 1 DT in the last 2 games. We will need him to play much better in Regina.

[blue_gold_84]

Tony Jones has 68 DT's on the season. He's all over the field!!.

He's a stud.

[gobombersgo]

[TecnoGenius]

Vaughters 1 DT in the last 2 games. We will need him to play much better in Regina.

He was subdued but still disruptive vs MTL.  If the 1 DT is what I was thinking of, it was a brilliant OL-shed to catch (and secure) the carrier in the hole.  Our whole DL has bad problems with shedding blockers (hold city in the gut mass), but Vaughters often pulls it off!

Our whole pass-rush was pretty useless against that MTL OL.  Need better schemes or more effort or better horses...

[TecnoGenius]

Yes, Wilson has been very good at SY. He's just a little quicker after receiving the snap, and can find the small crack to get the yardage needed. And, you are right, Wilson's success rate has been better.

Over what time frame?  My criteria for failure is "TOD on 3rd & 1.3 or less".  Under that criteria Strev has failed once this season.  Maybe he failed 1-3 times in previous season before his knee explosion?

Wilson had 0 or 1 failure in '24 and none this year?  But he's had only like 3 sneaks in '25...

So in 2025, 3/3 vs 14/15 or whatever.  To me it's basically equivalent.  However, everyone noting technique and total push and speed and everything else: you're not wrong!  But as long as the failure rate is low, I'm a status quo kind of guy.

(I guess failing to get at least 1 on 2nd & 2 or 3 is also failure, but Strev did get the 1.25 on that 2nd & 3 the other game, so that's a success.)

[TecnoGenius]

Neither.

...Montreal's defense was just tired. They've played a ton in the last few weeks. It was a short week. They have had a bye less than us and combined with good execution from the Bombers and those factors we had success.  Thorpe's a good DC.

Both can be true.  Clearly they were tired, especially as our TOP in 1st H was very dominant (but evened up a fair bit by the end).

But they 100% didn't assign a spy to the RB/QB.  Watch what we do on many/most downs on D.  Someone (usually WILL or MLB) is matched with the RB and if he stays in blocking our guy will run up to the box as an extra rusher.  If the RB or QB tries to run our "spy" will stay out and match his every move.

Most teams will do the same, especially against Brady!  Or they'll have a DB tasked with keeping a VERY close eye on him and closing the gap quickly before he can take a dump pass.

MTL left Brady without anyone within 15Y and no DB facing him to keep him honest.  So many teams played the opposite and would destroy Brady by the time dump passes made it to him (or have someone follow him out of the box taking him away as a read completely).

It just struck me as odd.  And Brady's game stats showed it.  I guess they thought Brady was washed up based on his before-this-game crap stats?

[TecnoGenius]

It does irk me when I see mtrl continually picking up players that can help with a proven history
Hopefully Houston helps but what is it with Walters only bringing in players that have played wuth us before?

Mafia gonna mafia.  That's for sure.  As pathetic as it seems to us, though, it has gotten us to 5 straight cups... so something has to be working!

Maybe we will make some trade/couch noise in this home GC year.  Maybe.  (Please?)

[TecnoGenius]

Weitz was on K/O returns but I didn't notice him on PR? I can't say he was bad but he was invisible on TV. Anyone see more than I did?

You may have already pointed it out, but Weitz was in on a great blow-up tackle on ST (we all thought of BinBC!).  Not sure if he got the credit for it, and of course TSN never mentions anything about STers... (just cut to commercial!)

They used to mention the tacklers a bit more back in the Arakgi & Mike Miller days... Maybe they only care when records are getting broken.

[Blue In BC]

You may have already pointed it out, but Weitz was in on a great blow-up tackle on ST (we all thought of BinBC!).  Not sure if he got the credit for it, and of course TSN never mentions anything about STers... (just cut to commercial!)

They used to mention the tacklers a bit more back in the Arakgi & Mike Miller days... Maybe they only care when records are getting broken.

I didn't notice that when I re-watched the game although I may have sped through all of the return action. Nothing shows in the stats but Ayers had 4 ST's and I saw him making some big hits.

Weitz must be doing something right. The ST's get shuffled when there are injuries. I mentioned we lost Novak and more recently Hallett. The roles of replacement are probably different as they adjust. In that sense I've noticed Weitz more likely a player taking on blockers to make paths for those making the tackles.

Our ST's have been playing well with the exception of the missed FG return TD by Ottawa.

[Waffler]

Our ST's have been playing well with the exception of the missed FG return TD by Ottawa.

And the ill-advised fake punt. Otherwise it's a strength of this team, no doubt.

[Jesse]

Over what time frame?  My criteria for failure is "TOD on 3rd & 1.3 or less".  Under that criteria Strev has failed once this season.  Maybe he failed 1-3 times in previous season before his knee explosion?

Wilson had 0 or 1 failure in '24 and none this year?  But he's had only like 3 sneaks in '25...

So in 2025, 3/3 vs 14/15 or whatever.  To me it's basically equivalent.  However, everyone noting technique and total push and speed and everything else: you're not wrong!  But as long as the failure rate is low, I'm a status quo kind of guy.

(I guess failing to get at least 1 on 2nd & 2 or 3 is also failure, but Strev did get the 1.25 on that 2nd & 3 the other game, so that's a success.)

Wilson this year is 13/14 with an average of 3.7 yards per attempt. He is not making it close.

Strev's numbers are harder to figure out because he's started some games and has other rushes mixed in, but on games where he was purely used as SY, he has 10 attempts with a 1.2 yard average. He's only missed twice, but it's so close it feels like we're dependent on a good spot. He is simply not as effective in this role at this point.