Blue Bombers Transactions - August 17, 2025

[Waffler]

I like Payton Logan but Vaval is a better fit with his ability to also play DB, I don't see them making that switch now.

I am wondering if Logan will ever play now. Vaval is better and cheaper. Not to say Logan is not also good, he is, but where does he fit? Could be another Cooley situation.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

I am wondering if Logan will ever play now. Vaval is better and cheaper. Not to say Logan is not also good, he is, but where does he fit? Could be another Cooley situation.

He's probably healthy and it's why Cooley was released?

[Blue In BC]

I am wondering if Logan will ever play now. Vaval is better and cheaper. Not to say Logan is not also good, he is, but where does he fit? Could be another Cooley situation.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Vaval has been very good but so has Logan during his time in the CFL. He has a 104 yard punt return TD and a 99 yard K/O return.  He's also scored 5 TD's on offence.

Logan's role would be different than Vaval's if he gets onto the AR.

When added Houston back to the roster, it's probable that Vaval is relegated to return duty as his primary role. That could be this week or next week?

It's not impossible that Logan doesn't get onto the AR as a 2nd returner and offensive player.

How they do that is a choice within the roster and that doesn't seem probable at the moment. So I don't know what it takes to make that happen. It's only a guess but J. Jones coming off would be the trade off and he also has value on the AR.

Again some of our IR players might be healthy and options this week. We'll have to see the IR report and determine this weeks options.

[peg_city]

Vaval > Lawson

[Blue In BC]

Vaval > Lawson

Did you mean Logan? I think the sample size for Vaval is a little small but he's been very good. As I mentioned Logan could have a different role than just as a returner. Yes Vaval is also a DB but again very limited CFL experience.

If you're suggesting he's better than Lawson as a DB, that's debatable. I don't expect Houston to replace Vaval in the secondary but I could be wrong. Making that assessment after one game is a little iffy.  Having Vaval concentrate on being the returner is not the worst idea.

Noting that Lawson was brought back to start when Bridges was released. Vaval didn't start until Bonds was injured.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Did you mean Logan?

They have 2 Lawsons, 1 Lofton, 1 Logan + a Hogan at OC, not difficult for anyone to get confused!

[peg_city]

Did you mean Logan? I think the sample size for Vaval is a little small but he's been very good. As I mentioned Logan could have a different role than just as a returner. Yes Vaval is also a DB but again very limited CFL experience.

If you're suggesting he's better than Lawson as a DB, that's debatable. I don't expect Houston to replace Vaval in the secondary but I could be wrong. Making that assessment after one game is a little iffy.  Having Vaval concentrate on being the returner is not the worst idea.

Noting that Lawson was brought back to start when Bridges was released. Vaval didn't start until Bonds was injured.

I meant DB Lawson.

I like Vaval better as a DB than Lawson.

That (bolded section above) might have to do with position. They brought lawson in to play strong side corner. I think Houston plays corner, so maybe they are going to get him to play strong side corner? Just a theory. Lawson was cut in training camp and hasn't looked great at corner. Man I miss Ford.

[Pigskin]

I think that if Vaval stays in at DB, Logan will be doing the bulk of returns.

If Houston comes into the lineup, Vaval will do the bulk of returns and backup our DBs again.

Logan will need a couple of games to knock the rust off, and get into game shape.

Houston could also play backup this week, just to get him some game time. Doesn't need a lot, just enough to get the feel of the game back.

 Vaval and healthy Logan give us a few options. 

[BLUEBOMBER]

Houston will definitely give our team a boost. I just hope the BB didn't get desperate and spent a ton of money on him.

[Blue In BC]

I meant DB Lawson.

I like Vaval better as a DB than Lawson.

That (bolded section above) might have to do with position. They brought lawson in to play strong side corner. I think Houston plays corner, so maybe they are going to get him to play strong side corner? Just a theory. Lawson was cut in training camp and hasn't looked great at corner. Man I miss Ford.

O'Shea said it was hard to cut Lawson after a very good TC. I don't know whether Vaval makes the game 1 AR if Logan was healthy. It's one of those things we'll never know.

Obviously Vaval has had an opportunity to play as the returner and more recently as a starting DB.

Case made the original PR and was previously a returner.

So I have no idea who lands on the PR or gets cut from a domino effect ( Logan ) that didn't happen.

I don't expect Vaval to start at CB if Houston makes the roster.

It's an interesting question / debate.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

O'Shea said it was hard to cut Lawson after a very good TC. I don't know whether Vaval makes the game 1 AR if Logan was healthy. It's one of those things we'll never know.

Obviously Vaval has had an opportunity to play as the returner and more recently as a starting DB.

Case made the original PR and was previously a returner.

So I have no idea who lands on the PR or gets cut from a domino effect ( Logan ) that didn't happen.

I don't expect Vaval to start at CB if Houston makes the roster.

It's an interesting question / debate.

I don't understand why they're hanging onto Woodbey on the PR, says he's a DB but he's not, he's a MLB if anything listed at 6'1" 234 lbs, which makes him 4th or 5th on the depth chart. I can see the future and it doesn't include Woodbey.

[Blue In BC]

I don't understand why they're hanging onto Woodbey on the PR, says he's a DB but he's not, he's a MLB if anything listed at 6'1" 234 lbs, which makes him 4th or 5th on the depth chart. I can see the future and it doesn't include Woodbey.

Getting Dandy back may lead to Woodbey being released. I think we all figured out we don't need another LB on the PR. It's already tough to keep J. Jones on the AR.

I also see no benefit of keeping Weitz either. He's another LB and we have Bailey as an extra global in a position that could benefit the team.

Bombers may keep some healthy players on the 1 game IR but they may also choose to bump someone back to the PR.

[Blueforlife]

The team is getting much deeper and fast
Just like in camp, some good players are going home

'Need will never trump integrity': Mike O'Shea defends Blue Bombers signing Demerio Houston - 3DownNation https://share.google/dn7UCtGUP0koZjIvs

Watched Elgersma run a nice two minute drill for the Packers late in the 2nd. quarter. To bad his OL took 3 penalties on on that drive, eliminating a nice touchdown throw. Came out to start the 3rd. quarter with a nice drive for a touchdown. The kid has the size, strong arm, and seems to move well in the pocket. With his arm strength, he's not afraid to throw the ball into tight spaces.

7/11  109 yards.     

This post would be better suited on a Bomber prospect thread imo but thanks for the report

[TecnoGenius]

Houston will definitely give our team a boost. I just hope the BB didn't get desperate and spent a ton of money on him.

Don't care how much.  And I care even less now that half the season is done, meaning SMS hit is also cut in half.

Cup year, $400k unspent, I want overages anyhow... that said, I bet we got him for $140k pro-rated (i.e. $70k).  We may have waited until Vaval/Lawson were looking OK (which they were) so we didn't show desperation.  However, there's also a chance we've been negotiating with his agent for 4 weeks... we all knew at least that long we needed him.  KW likely did too.  Certainly we've been aware since Bonds went season-ender.

[TecnoGenius]

Kind of strange they brought back 2 DB's, Dandy likely sits on PR along with Dexter Lawson once Houston gets up to speed and Vaval goes back to returns once Parker is healthy.  I like Payton Logan but Vaval is a better fit with his ability to also play DB, I don't see them making that switch now.

Thanks for the CB memory jog.  So Houston was a corner when he was inches away from knocking down the Philpot game-winning TD in '23 GC?  That was Houston, right?  (Tough play: don't fault him for it.  I blame Parker more for being a fish out of water on the 3rd & 3.)

As for the roster: Vaval, if not starting, could easily remain as dressed backup DB and returner (even if dual-returner scheme).

Yet Logan too could easily get on the roster as a returner plus backup REC and RB.  We could possibly PR Corcoran to make this work (yes, still have to lose a DI on D but could bring in next-best NAT LB/DL/DB).

If we decide Smith is our guy to start FS going forward, it gives us some extra ratio options.  We've already been seeing that with more IMP-only DL sets.

Bottom line: I can see certain games where both Vaval & Logan make AR.