Post game analysis/Good-Bad-Ugly

Started by Jesse, August 15, 2025, 05:02:00 PM

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Jesse

Need to get some kind of post game threads started up again.

I think they general feelings are happy that we won but pretty annoyed at how it looked.

Good stuff:

- We need to realize that out of our 4 losses, 3 came against Calgary. I didn't think our offence would look as bad against Ottawa and for the most part, they didn't.
- Zach looked good for 95% of his throws. Got some screens going and some downfield blocking on several catch and runs.
- Nic Demski has been our MOP.
- Props to our oft beleaguered Canadian DL: Thomas and Schmekel having impact plays
- Cam Allen got absolutely hosed on 2 phantom PI calls but man did I love what he brought. I believe he is absolutely our starting safety moving forward.
- Brady TD: finally

Bad/Ugly stuff:

- Situational play calling at the end of every. single. game. Two weeks ago, it's the Streveler INT in the end zone when a FG wins the game, last week it's Zach getting sacked when we just need to kill the clock, this week it's Strev going for a 6 inch dive on a 2nd and three. Hogan does not know who to finish a game.
- The INTs rearing their head again. I didn't mind the toss the Demski at the end, but the ball needs to come out sooner so the DB can't catch up.
- The defence played really well for the most part and absolutely clamped down on Druski all game, but let Crum walk all over them which made this much more close than it rightfully should have been.


All in all, it was a great night out, but the same two issues (turn overs and late game play calling) continue to plague us.
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theaardvark

Good:  Win.  No serious injuries.

Bad:  too much to mention, flush them, its a win.

Ugly:  Officiating.  Cam Allen was repeatedly robbed, holding and facemasks Ott got away with repeatedly, coach's "It was PI declaration" post game, obviously not wanting to get fined...

Walk off win, they don't ask how, just how many...  but man.
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

Pete

#2
glad you started up this thread.
The Good
Allen at safety, physical fast and will only get better
The win = huge to keep ahead of bc and knock back ottawa in case of the crossover
Final Drive Zacs run then his pass to Demski
Wheatfall showing Zac hes a legit target
Demski -again having an allstar season
Smeckle - playing better than both Thomas and Lawson plus the blocked punt
Vaval was fine at corner so was Lawson
Hogan having Zac roll out more

Bad
Defensive line exhausted by 4th quarter. Redblks TOP in 3rd was way to high. We need to add another dlineman in to rotate rather than all the lbs
Randolph's penalty it was a cheap play on his part
Hogans play call of Streveler sneaking on 2nd and three (bordered on ugly)
O'Sheas call to have Castillo kick a 57 yd fg - not only cost us a td but undermined the defense showing no confidence they could stop a 3rd string qb)

Ugly
Collaros throwing a pick at the end of the 2nd qtr
As above, Officiating, one of the most onesided games I've seen. Calling borderline calls on one team and not the other


Jesse

Good call on pointing out that Zach was rolling out more. Noticed that too.

It seems to help move the offence whether it's Zach or Strev in but we often stop using it with Zach.
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Blueforlife

#4
Good
Thomas(guy still can contribute despite the heavy criticism)
Schmekel (statement game, love the energy)
Zach
Wheatie
Demski
Sterns
OL at times (pass rush)
D
Allen (will need more seasoning but looks to be a great score for us!)
Vaval

Bad
OL at times run game

Ugly
Refs
Play calls / coaches decisions at times
Int

Seen Ayers make a play, I think on D can't remember

Pigskin

Yes, Thomas had his best game of the season, and Schmekel was very good all night. The work Schm. puts in at practice is paying off.

I also thought that ZC8 had a pretty good game. Had ND10 open, just didn't have enough arm.

Allen has good size, quick to the ball, and likes to bring the hammer. Made a couple of mistakes, but has all the tools.

I also agree with the bad decisions at the end of games. Far to many, far to often.

How good has Tony Jones been. 


Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Did not like that deep bomb to Demski that led to the interception, gambling on a low percentage pass and failing at a critical time was like going all in on a roll of the dice. Only luck and a second chance got Zach out of that mess.  The consequences are high, the performance he puts up in the next 2 months will determine the future of his career, he needs to play smarter football.

Pigskin

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 15, 2025, 06:28:35 PMDid not like that deep bomb to Demski that led to the interception, gambling on a low percentage pass and failing at a critical time was like going all in on a roll of the dice. Only luck and a second chance got Zach out of that mess.  The consequences are high, the performance he puts up in the next 2 months will determine the future of his career, he needs to play smarter football.

He said after the game, he put all he had into that throw.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Pigskin on August 15, 2025, 06:30:48 PMHe said after the game, he put all he had into that throw.

Needs to throw it 1/2 second earlier.

Blueforlife

#9
Quote from: Pigskin on August 15, 2025, 06:18:34 PMYes, Thomas had his best game of the season, and Schmekel was very good all night. The work Schm. puts in at practice is paying off.

I also thought that ZC8 had a pretty good game. Had ND10 open, just didn't have enough arm.

Allen has good size, quick to the ball, and likes to bring the hammer. Made a couple of mistakes, but has all the tools.

I also agree with the bad decisions at the end of games. Far to many, far to often.

How good has Tony Jones been. 

Good point on Jones, I think it was 11 tackles.  Our starting LBs are exceptional and our depth is likely the strongest in the league.

Agree all, great post.

Quote from: Pete on August 15, 2025, 05:29:00 PMglad you started up this thread.
The Good
Allen at safety, physical fast and will only get better
The win = huge to keep ahead of bc and knock back ottawa in case of the crossover
Final Drive Zacs run then his pass to Demski
Wheatfall showing Zac hes a legit target
Demski -again having an allstar season
Smeckle - playing better than both Thomas and Lawson plus the blocked punt
Vaval was fine at corner so was Lawson
Hogan having Zac roll out more

Bad
Defensive line exhausted by 4th quarter. Redblks TOP in 3rd was way to high. We need to add another dlineman in to rotate rather than all the lbs
Randolph's penalty it was a cheap play on his part
Hogans play call of Streveler sneaking on 2nd and three (bordered on ugly)
O'Sheas call to have Castillo kick a 57 yd fg - not only cost us a td but undermined the defense showing no confidence they could stop a 3rd string qb)

Ugly
Collaros throwing a pick at the end of the 2nd qtr
As above, Officiating, one of the most onesided games I've seen. Calling borderline calls on one team and not the other


I think the DL was fine and disagree that we need less LBs.  Who would you take off and put on?

dd

Quote from: Pigskin on August 15, 2025, 06:30:48 PMHe said after the game, he put all he had into that throw.
That was a long throw in anyone's book. Agree, he just needs to throw it earlier and he'd have had him

theaardvark

#11
Just rewatching, and the Holm INT was great, Ayers had a great ST tackle.. and Kola blocking downfield for BO20 and betting run up on and BO20 pushing him along...

Bad:  both Collaros INT's being badly underthrown, costing points.
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bunker

Quote from: Blueforlife on August 15, 2025, 07:29:52 PMGood point on Jones, I think it was 11 tackles.  Our starting LBs are exceptional and our depth is likely the strongest in the league.

Agree all, great post.
I think the DL was fine and disagree that we need less LBs.  Who would you take off and put on?

Woods on for Ayers
Our  D line was gassed in the fourth quarter
Yeah, Ayers is good on teams. But he takes less than 3 defensive snaps a game. Now that we have Person, he's even less of a factor on D
For teams we've got Kelly, Hallet,Ball Smith, Shay, Cadwallader, Gauthier, J Jones, who only or primarily play teams,plus usually long snapper (except for kickoffs)and kicker when we're kicking. Plus for punts and drops goals we've got the big guys on the line blocking or rushing their kicker.
Seems like a very limited need for a guy like Ayers who's great, but whose role is very limited.
Now if O'Shea rosters Woods, and then gives him less than 5 snaps a game, sure it might not be worth it.

Sir Blue and Gold

#13
A few things:

Vaval looked good and more comfortable at boundary then he did at field corner. Makes sense and he should stay there. If he stays healthy and looks about as good, I think it's his indefinitely.

Tony Jones had one of his best games as a Bomber and had all three of the goal line stand tackles.

Cam Allen looks right at home at safety and it's a bit silly that we insist on making a guy like that sit and wait. He's a better safety than Parker and it's not particularly close. Poor roster management there through nine games. 

You can tell why Dillon Mitchell was looked at primarily as a wide out. He's slow for the slot. I'd consider moving Wheatfall to slot and Mitchell to boundary. When does Wilson come back again?

Playcalling continues to an adventure on offense and Hogan doesn't seem to have any natural talent for the flow of the game. I wonder how much frustration there is between Zach and Hogan and how often Zach does his own thing. Think that's a ticking time bomb and a guy in my section brought a "Hey, Ho, Hogan's got to go" sign. Bad things are brewing there.

Overall Zach looked good. Ball was out faster and he looked more mobile and did it with his legs at the end of the game. Unfortunately, he's gotta keep doing that and when he's playing the better defenses it's probably not going to work but that's the game he needs to play.

Throw Long Bannatyne

#14
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 15, 2025, 10:42:25 PMA few things:

Vaval looked good and more comfortable at boundary then he did at field corner. Makes sense and he should stay there. If he stays healthy and looks about as good, I think it's his indefinitely.

Tony Jones had one of his best games as a Bomber and had all three of the goal line stand tackles.

Cam Allen looks right at home at safety and it's a bit silly that we insist on making a guy like that sit and wait. He's a better safety than Parker and it's not particularly close. Poor roster management there through nine games. 

You can tell why Dillon Mitchell was looked at primarily as a wide out. He's slow for the slot. I'd consider moving Wheatfall to slot and Mitchell to boundary. When does Wilson come back again?

Playcalling continues to an adventure on offense and Hogan doesn't seem to have any natural talent for the flow of the game. I wonder how much frustration there is between Zach and Hogan and how often Zach does his own thing. Think that's a ticking time bomb and a guy in my section brought a "Hey, Ho, Hogan's got to go" sign. Bad things are brewing there.

Overall Zach looked good. Ball was out faster and he looked more mobile and did it with his legs at the end of the game. Unfortunately, he's gotta keep doing that and when he's playing the better defenses it's probably not going to work but that's the game he needs to play.

Listened to the pre-game show, Ed Tait said Zach has been quite upset with the play of the receivers so far this season, mentioned staring at the backs of receivers running assigned routes while rolling out unaware that he needs to get rid of the ball. 

It's pretty clear he prefers intelligent receivers that can adapt to the play and he probably can't wait for Dalton to return.