Official Game Day Thread - Ottawa at Winnipeg, August 14, 2025

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Waffler

This is the worst I've ever felt after a win. I just don't agree with gambling everything on the long field goal and then gambling everything on a long pass that Collaros can't make anymore.  Is Collaros the only one that doesn't see he can't throw that far anymore?  We ALMOST gifted that one to Dyce who looked like a kid opening the latest video game console on Christmas morning.

Our 9th game last year was the turn around, a 25-0 stomping of BC. I don't feel like that after 9 games this year. I just feel lucky we held on to beat Crum.
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bomb squad

Quote from: Jesse on August 15, 2025, 04:32:26 AMI'm actually less concerned with the kick itself and more upset that we put Stev in to dive forward when it was 2nd and 3+

Why do we continue to do this to ourselves?

I think they would've given it to Oliviera, but he was dinged and hobbling from the previous couple of plays.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Waffler on August 15, 2025, 01:16:20 PMThis is the worst I've ever felt after a win. I just don't agree with gambling everything on the long field goal and then gambling everything on a long pass that Collaros can't make anymore.  Is Collaros the only one that doesn't see he can't throw that far anymore?  We ALMOST gifted that one to Dyce who looked like a kid opening the latest video game console on Christmas morning.

Our 9th game last year was the turn around, a 25-0 stomping of BC. I don't feel like that after 9 games this year. I just feel lucky we held on to beat Crum.


O'Shea sounded mighty grumpy on the field goal. I didn't mind the call although if I were him I probably would have punted.

We're probably thinking:

Castillo is 60% likely to hit it and the game is over
Only around 3% of missed field goals are returned for TDs and our cover teams had been lights out all game
We haven't moved the ball very well in the second half so going for it didn't feel right

Not sure what the analyics would have said but it probably was to kick the field goal. If I was the one who got to make the decision I'd probably have had Sheahan punt it and then rely on the crowd and the defense for the last minute of the game against Crum but whatever. We're still in the fight and it doesn't matter how we won.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: bomb squad on August 15, 2025, 01:22:08 PMI think they would've given it to Oliviera, but he dinged and hobbling from the previous couple of plays.

I noticed the wrap on his right shoulder last night. I'm guessing that injury from week 2 is still lingering, which is affecting his play.
#forthew
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Waffler

Quote from: Pete on August 15, 2025, 02:27:46 AMit feels like every team we've played scores on their first drive of the second half

And we fail to score at all in the third quarter.
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Horseman

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 15, 2025, 01:33:26 PMI noticed the wrap on his right shoulder last night. I'm guessing that injury from week 2 is still lingering, which is affecting his play.

In my opinion, its not his shoulder its that our O line is not opening the holes for Brady like years past. This year we are not capable of playing Brady ball as we don't have the same blocking prowess up front.

Waffler

Quote from: Horseman on August 15, 2025, 02:41:43 PMIn my opinion, its not his shoulder its that our O line is not opening the holes for Brady like years past. This year we are not capable of playing Brady ball as we don't have the same blocking prowess up front.

I agree. It's evident on short yardage too. We barely make them now. But just in case Brady is not 100% why not give Peterson some reps? He is faster and likely healthier.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Horseman on August 15, 2025, 02:41:43 PMIn my opinion, its not his shoulder its that our O line is not opening the holes for Brady like years past. This year we are not capable of playing Brady ball as we don't have the same blocking prowess up front.

No disagreement there, but I think two (or more) things can be true here. The O-line has been struggling mightily this season, which has impacted the offense overall.

I do think Oliveira is dealing with an injury issue affecting his play, but I'm only speculating based on what I saw last night.
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Elbows up!
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theaardvark

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 15, 2025, 01:32:35 PMO'Shea sounded mighty grumpy on the field goal. I didn't mind the call although if I were him I probably would have punted.

We're probably thinking:

Castillo is 60% likely to hit it and the game is over
Only around 3% of missed field goals are returned for TDs and our cover teams had been lights out all game
We haven't moved the ball very well in the second half so going for it didn't feel right

Not sure what the analyics would have said but it probably was to kick the field goal. If I was the one who got to make the decision I'd probably have had Sheahan punt it and then rely on the crowd and the defense for the last minute of the game against Crum but whatever. We're still in the fight and it doesn't matter how we won.

Problem is, the punt cover team and the FG team are totally different groups, and the result was indicative of that.
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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: theaardvark on August 15, 2025, 02:57:26 PMProblem is, the punt cover team and the FG team are totally different groups, and the result was indicative of that.

Fair. Although the field goal cover team (if you want to call them that) has not really be an issue this year either so my guess is O'Shea is feeling good about it either way.

markf

Quote from: theaardvark on August 15, 2025, 02:57:26 PMProblem is, the punt cover team and the FG team are totally different groups, and the result was indicative of that.

And Boy was that easy to see on that touchdown to tie the game.

Wheatfall showed up, needs to tighten his helmet strap, though I saw an Ottawa defender ease up on the tackle when the helmet came off.... Nice to see.

Zach and hogan are addicted to the long ball.

Are there stats on success rate of passes over forty yds, for Zach? It's Fajardoesque these days.

How can a guy as huge as Wallace not open some kind of hole for the ball carrier?  Seemed to be no luck at all on that side.

Anyone notice kolankowski running downfield during a play, fiddling with his helmet?  He blocked some people though.

J5V

Quote from: BBRT on August 15, 2025, 05:03:03 AMIf memory serves me correctly Crum did beat the Bombers in OT. Can someone confirm? And if the game did go to OT I am not sure the Bombers pull this one out. I envision a major screw up to give the Red  Blacks the win in OT.
Confirmed. We were up by 16 late. BO fumbled, RBs scored two TDs and two x two-point converts and ultimately won in OT.
Go Bombers!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: theaardvark on August 15, 2025, 02:57:26 PMProblem is, the punt cover team and the FG team are totally different groups, and the result was indicative of that.

True, on the Bonfire podcast Bauming went through the players on the field attempting to tackle Pimpleton and the 2 fastest were Sheahan and Gauthier, the rest were lineman + Sergio. MOS might not admit it but hopefully he learns from this mistake and proceeds with caution, or at least throws out a rover with speed like Holm when attempting +50 yd FG's.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 15, 2025, 04:11:11 PMTrue, on the Bonfire podcast Bauming went through the players on the field attempting to tackle Pimpleton and the 2 fastest were Sheahan and Gauthier, the rest were lineman + Sergio. MOS might not admit it but hopefully he learns from this mistake and proceeds with caution, or at least throws out a rover with speed like Holm when attempting +50 yd FG's.

It would be nice to see depth charts for ST teams for punt, K/O and FG efforts. Long FG's are always risky and the longer the attempt the greater the risk with heavier, slower players not used to making tackles.
One game at a time.

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Quote from: J5V on August 15, 2025, 03:32:09 PMConfirmed. We were up by 16 late. BO fumbled, RBs scored two TDs and two x two-point converts and ultimately won in OT.

That was last season, no?  I think Crum beat the Bombers again since the initial "Crumback".