Longest CFL Field Goal

Started by gobombersgo, August 10, 2025, 05:14:10 PM

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Waffler

I wonder how long 63 will be the record anyway. There are at least 2 that are capable of kicking longer, our own Sergio and Maltos also.
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TecnoGenius

Yup.  Well the only way to solve this is for Castillo to kick a 64Yer next game!  Problem solved.  ;D  ;D  ;D

Since there was virtually no wind for his 63, if we get a good wind in a game he should be able to do 64 easy.

What I love about Castillo is he just looks completely normal trotting out there, completely normal on the sidelines.  It's like "end of game pressure - meh", "longest cfl kick ever - meh".

He may be even more of a robot than Medlock!  (Though Castillo does like to celebrate the good ones more than Meddy did.)
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 11, 2025, 12:56:43 AMYup.  Well the only way to solve this is for Castillo to kick a 64Yer next game!  Problem solved.  ;D  ;D  ;D

Since there was virtually no wind for his 63, if we get a good wind in a game he should be able to do 64 easy.

What I love about Castillo is he just looks completely normal trotting out there, completely normal on the sidelines.  It's like "end of game pressure - meh", "longest cfl kick ever - meh".

He may be even more of a robot than Medlock!  (Though Castillo does like to celebrate the good ones more than Meddy did.)

Medlock was robo - he was so dependable, it was ridiculous. 

Serge seems to miss the odd one that you don't expect, so a bit of wildcard, but still so good.  I don't mind the celebration at all - especially after 63 yds!

Slimy Sculpin

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 11, 2025, 12:56:43 AMYup.  Well the only way to solve this is for Castillo to kick a 64Yer next game!  Problem solved.  ;D  ;D  ;D

Since there was virtually no wind for his 63, if we get a good wind in a game he should be able to do 64 easy.

What I love about Castillo is he just looks completely normal trotting out there, completely normal on the sidelines.  It's like "end of game pressure - meh", "longest cfl kick ever - meh".

He may be even more of a robot than Medlock!  (Though Castillo does like to celebrate the good ones more than Meddy did.)

Actually, there was a wind (out of the SW) that helped Castillo  on that kick. (I was at the game.) Paredes missed a FG (wide right, I believe) earlier in the 4th most likely because of the wind. Not sure how the coin flip works but the Bombers made the decision to go with the wind in the 4th quarter. Probably the only decent decision the coaches made all game.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Slimy Sculpin on August 11, 2025, 01:32:26 PMActually, there was a wind (out of the SW) that helped Castillo  on that kick. (I was at the game.) Paredes missed a FG (wide right, I believe) earlier in the 4th most likely because of the wind. Not sure how the coin flip works but the Bombers made the decision to go with the wind in the 4th quarter. Probably the only decent decision the coaches made all game.

The flags were moving ever so slightly, so you are right, but surely the wind wasn't very strong to impact the ball too much?

We won the coin toss and took the ball.  I assume that means CGY took the wind in the 2nd Q.  Then they took the ball in 2nd H and that means we took the wind in 4th Q.  Actually the best of all worlds: we end with the wind like we always like, AND we get the first possession.
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Quote from: Big Daddy on August 11, 2025, 04:04:42 AMMedlock was robo - he was so dependable, it was ridiculous. 

Serge seems to miss the odd one that you don't expect, so a bit of wildcard, but still so good.  I don't mind the celebration at all - especially after 63 yds!
Medlock is still the best ever inside 40 yards. For the 30-39 range, he is number 1 at 95.7% - Sergio is number 2 at 93.0%.

In the 40-49 range, Medlock is #5 at 76.0 and in the 50+ range Medlock cracks the Top 10 at 59.6%.

Medlock is also #1 on convert success rate since the CFL moved the scrimmage for C1 to the 25 yard line - 98.0%. #2 on the list is Sean Whyte at 95.0%.

After he retired, Justin Medlock asked me to break down his kicks into these ranges. He was quite hard on himself for his success rate beyond 40 yards.
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The Zipp

Does Medlock have a chance at the CFL hall of fame?  Did he play long enough?

Cutler, Ridgeway, Passaglia, McCallum are all in - does he match them? 

Jesse

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Quote from: The Zipp on August 12, 2025, 02:11:01 PMDoes Medlock have a chance at the CFL hall of fame?  Did he play long enough?

Cutler, Ridgeway, Passaglia, McCallum are all in - does he match them? 

The CFL stats are still junked from when genius took over. I can only see his Bomber numbers.

He has about half of the attempts of those guys though. Don't know if he has quite the legacy that they built up.
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Quote from: The Zipp on August 12, 2025, 02:11:01 PMDoes Medlock have a chance at the CFL hall of fame?  Did he play long enough?

Cutler, Ridgeway, Passaglia, McCallum are all in - does he match them? 

I think Medlock could still be playing if he wanted to as a FG kicker, strangely he was not overly confident about his roster spot, the Bombers habit of neglecting contract talks probably did little to make him feel he was still wanted.

Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 12, 2025, 05:02:04 PMI think Medlock could still be playing if he wanted to as a FG kicker, strangely he was not overly confident about his roster spot, the Bombers habit of neglecting contract talks probably did little to make him feel he was still wanted.

No, he struggled with his back in later years.

Medlock always knew he had a place. Walters tried to get him back for consecutive years after he retired until we got Sergio locked up.
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Quote from: Jesse on August 12, 2025, 03:14:52 PMThe CFL stats are still junked from when genius took over. I can only see his Bomber numbers.

He has about half of the attempts of those guys though. Don't know if he has quite the legacy that they built up.
You are missing the capital G. As we know by now, genius and Genius are antonyms  ;)

Career stats for Justin Medlock
https://www.profootballarchives.com/players/m/medl00600.html

It is possible that missing 2 years (NFL tryouts) in the middle of his CFL career cost him a shot at the Canadian Football Hall of Fame.

The last Winnipeg Blue Bombers kicker to hold the CFL record for longest field goal was George Fleming. On August 7, 1964, Fleming became the first CFL kicker to connect from 50+ yards when his 55 yard field goal attempt bounced off the crossbar and through. His CFL record lasted just 10 days as Bill Mitchell shattered the pro football record with a 58 yard field goal on August 17, 1964.

The CFL record that George Fleming broke was 48 yards, co-held be Don Sutherin (1962) and George Fleming on September 14, 1963. The Blue Bombers tried to claim sole possession of that record by arguing that Fleming's kick was 48 yards 6 inches but the CFL did not agree.

By the way, George Fleming briefly held the AFL record for longest field goal while playing with the Oakland Raiders in 1961.
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Jesse

First CFL kicker to hit 50+ was a Bomber?

Tremendous kicking legacy.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: The Zipp on August 12, 2025, 02:11:01 PMDoes Medlock have a chance at the CFL hall of fame?  Did he play long enough?

Cutler, Ridgeway, Passaglia, McCallum are all in - does he match them?

If he stayed after 'vid, probably.  I always thought he hung up the cleats way too early.  No reason he couldn't have kept going.  And we'd have kept him here.

Castillo, while not as automatic in the short game, is stellar in the "no way" game.  I can't think of a kicker I'd rather have than him right now.

Castillo might make that 61Y in BC in 2017(?) to win that WSF...
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 13, 2025, 04:42:53 AMCastillo might make that 61Y in BC in 2017(?) to win that WSF...

Not sure about that. I thought I read the indoor air was dead and the ball was not carrying well. But maybe.

Another point about George Fleming kicking 50+. That would have been the straight on kicking style in those days. Highly impressive. I remember Dave Cutler and others used to tie their toe in an up position using the bottom of the cleat. pic attached.
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Quote from: Waffler on August 13, 2025, 11:55:08 AMNot sure about that. I thought I read the indoor air was dead and the ball was not carrying well. But maybe.

Another point about George Fleming kicking 50+. That would have been the straight on kicking style in those days. Highly impressive. I remember Dave Cutler and others used to tie their toe in an up position using the bottom of the cleat.
Dead air is now a myth. It is a carryover from 15+ years ago when BC Place had the inflated roof. Now that the roof opens the air exchange & circulation is quite good. I have lost a depth chart or two over the years because of a breeze.

Castillo is the only kicker that I have seen attempt a 60+ yard field goal in warmup at BC Place. His 61 yard attempt came up short. 58 yards seems to be Castillo's limit.

George Fleming was a starting halfback (RB) and would have to wear his kicking shoe throughout the game. He probably used a square toed shoe. A Cutler style shoe would have affected his running.
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