Injuries

[Blueforlife]

Bonds looks bad
Anyone else?

[TecnoGenius]

Bonds may be out a long while.  New DB time.  I don't want Bridges back, but he might be the only option.  Feels like re-hiring Roc.

Zach looked like he was walking tenderly after a couple of the sacks/hits.  He took a lot of abuse today.

So not the end of the world, all things considered.  But certainly won't help our DB corps.

[The Zipp]

if you tell a guy like Bridges he isn't good enough for your team...then bring him back in 3 days - message is kind of murky, we are on a short week though so it might just be rolling with who we have. 

[Blueforlife]

Yeah Bridges isn't likely to come back but one of only ways could put a bandaid on this wound.  Be interesting how we shake things up.

Also need to figure out how to improve Kelly and / or scheme to support him better.

Good point Zach did take beating.

Agree likely rolling with who we got but likely will do some shopping for future games

[RebusRankin]

If Bonds is out, give Cam Allen a shot.

[dd]

Why aren't we bringing in Houston, is he asking too much?? Don't we have cap space?? The guy played here before, seems like a natural fit.

[Waffler]

As far as bringing people in, Green Bay (Wilson) played the Jets (Elgersma) yesterday.

Elgersma was the best of a bad QB group 3 for 4 and 89.6 rating.
On the other side Pokey Wilson caught one for 12 yards.

[Blueforlife]

As far as bringing people in, Green Bay (Wilson) played the Jets (Elgersma) yesterday.

Elgersma was the best of a bad QB group 3 for 4 and 89.6 rating.
On the other side Pokey Wilson caught one for 12 yards.

A huge boost if we could only get one back, not likely imo.

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[TecnoGenius]

Looked at the Bonds injury again.  Ya, so it's a non-contact, stop/change direction trigger.  That's almost always knee, usually ACL.  It looks like his right knee just gives out under him.  Also hinting at ACL.

Weird he wanted to be helped off the field, though.  Usually you can walk away from ACL like nothing happened after the initial shock.

Could also be MCL and/or achilles, but I didn't see much to point at the latter.  Achilles usually needs help off.

Could be he blew up a whole lot of stuff in that knee.

Either way, my money is on season-ender and possibly missing a couple of games into 2026.

We'll need to find solutions.  If Logan can finally slot in we could have Logan (and less so Vaval) at returns, and Vaval at boundary corner.

That still means we need to bring a body in for PR (or even AR).  Vaval is a rookie and not the best option to start all year.  He seems ok, but not an instant natural like D.Alford.

[Big Daddy]

Looked at the Bonds injury again.  Ya, so it's a non-contact, stop/change direction trigger.  That's almost always knee, usually ACL.  It looks like his right knee just gives out under him.  Also hinting at ACL.

Weird he wanted to be helped off the field, though.  Usually you can walk away from ACL like nothing happened after the initial shock.

Could also be MCL and/or achilles, but I didn't see much to point at the latter.  Achilles usually needs help off.

Could be he blew up a whole lot of stuff in that knee.

Either way, my money is on season-ender and possibly missing a couple of games into 2026.

We'll need to find solutions.  If Logan can finally slot in we could have Logan (and less so Vaval) at returns, and Vaval at boundary corner.

That still means we need to bring a body in for PR (or even AR).  Vaval is a rookie and not the best option to start all year.  He seems ok, but not an instant natural like D.Alford.

I can't remember - was Bonds the Bomber coming off with assistance on both sides?  He was essentially being carried with no weight on either leg?  I distinctly remember that, just not who it was that was carried.  Not recalling the injury, I would suspect achilles, just because that is painful and no weight on that leg at all.

You are right, ACL sometimes walks off gingerly but very unstable.  MCL would make it less stable and more likely for assistance needed.

Carried off like that (if I am recalling the right player) - achilles is real rough, I've helped someone off the field with that, and seen it a few more times - it is not pretty.

[TecnoGenius]

I can't remember - was Bonds the Bomber coming off with assistance on both sides?  He was essentially being carried with no weight on either leg?

Yup, watching it now.  No weight on either leg, which is really strange.  Even achilles you can do the hoppity hop on one leg.

I didn't really see an ankle buckle, so my money is still on knee.  You could be right, maybe MCL instead.

[Big Daddy]

Yup, watching it now.  No weight on either leg, which is really strange.  Even achilles you can do the hoppity hop on one leg.

I didn't really see an ankle buckle, so my money is still on knee.  You could be right, maybe MCL instead.

No, I would say if it is knee it is ACL and MCL, not MCL instead.

And I don't remember ever seeing someone taken off like that - no weight on either leg.

This is just totally spitballing - but if a knee is torn up real bad (think Strev last year), that is painful and really traumatic.  Not saying an achilles isn't, because it is huge and can be career ending. 

If you didn't see anything to imply an achilles, then I would more suspect a very severe knee injury.  ACL and MCL together are more common on Oline - outside forces on a vulnerable knee - I am not sure what would do that in non-contact, but that is just my lack of knowledge - doesn't mean it can't happen.

[TecnoGenius]

I just noticed: after Brady's start-of-halftime interview, behind him you can see the cart taking a Bomber off the field.  Looks like it's Bonds.  He appears to have one leg elevated and straight, the other is bent at the knee lower down.

Looks like the elevated leg is the right leg?

Really hard to tell, blurry, obstructed and very brief.

[TecnoGenius]

If you didn't see anything to imply an achilles, then I would more suspect a very severe knee injury.  ACL and MCL together are more common on Oline - outside forces on a vulnerable knee - I am not sure what would do that in non-contact, but that is just my lack of knowledge - doesn't mean it can't happen.

Non-contact injury right at the moment of stopping or hard change of direction is typical of these knee injuries.  They get the "pop" feeling/sound and crumple to the ground as the knee has zero lateral stability.

It occurred right as he was doing the hard stop / plant / change direction to catch the double move.

[Big Daddy]

Non-contact injury right at the moment of stopping or hard change of direction is typical of these knee injuries.  They get the "pop" feeling/sound and crumple to the ground as the knee has zero lateral stability.

It occurred right as he was doing the hard stop / plant / change direction to catch the double move.

I am sure you are right about this.

It's just that everything you just described is so typical of an achilles rupture.  The only thing missing is the player saying they thought they were hit in the lower leg with a bat - that's the feeling they get.  But the sudden stop and the "pop" feeling and sound is so typical of achilles.

However, in my experience that is with back-pedalling and a sudden stop, not forward motion.  Think Matt Dunigan going down with his achilles rupture - just a simple drop back and set to make the pass.

Again I haven't watched the replay for this so not as clear to me.