Winnipeg @ Calgary Pre-game.

[Blueforlife]

Yes but if you are a real pro and long termer you will remember "Nasty Nate" !

Yeah that's awesome I do! We should create a thread of classic members who didn't last long to secure their legacy

[Blueforlife]

Normally I'd bump up the # 4 receiver choice too. If they didn't add Mitchell last week, he may never see the field. Others thought the rookie on the PR isn't ready. Using Corcoran gives us a ratio option that the import receiver doesn't.

Looking at the low productivity of our offence does make you wonder what we'll do this week if we have healthy options.

You choosing Cooley ahead of Allen is interesting. We saw that Cooley only had a couple of reps on ST's and wasn't used on offence. If they decide to get him involved on offence that might make sense. OTOH, Allen could see reps in rotation.

Although Cooley didn't do well on fielding kicks, he was on the return team that had 2 return TD's. I don't know specifically but maybe he made some good blocks to spring Vaval. That seems less probable but perhaps he did well in that aspect of play. Would be interesting to know who he replaced in that role.

I didn't like that we didn't use Cooley, I wanted to see him late in the game and run over a tired defense, now that we got other bodies back he goes way down my list for priority, they might have put him on last week and they knew he wouldn't see the field for a bit with the guys getting healthy

Game just didn't go that way

I'm high on Allen but as you know I like to slow roast our prospects

Not worried about our receiving core, I think they will be ok but very interesting to see Mitchell getting reps here

I want to see Cobb get a few balls, he might have a tough time making the lineup this week, did anyone see him get reps?

Agree with your take on receiver, after a few weeks of not seeing things the same way at times I believe we are closer to being on the same page as of late

I am very nervous with Cooley as a returner, good point though maybe he helped block, didn't  notice

[Blue In BC]

I didn't like that we didn't use Cooley, I wanted to see him late in the game and run over a tired defense, now that we got other bodies back he goes way down my list for priority

Game just didn't go that way

I'm high on Allen but as you know I like to slow roast our prospects

Not worried about our receiving core, I think they will be ok but very interesting to see Mitchell getting reps here

I want to see Cobb get a few balls

Agree with your take on receiver, after a few weeks of not seeing things the same way I believe we are closer to being on the same page as of late

I am very nervous with Cooley as a returner, good point though maybe he helped block, didn't  notice

Cooley and Allen are both CFL rookies, so that's a bit of a double standard wanting the slow and easy. He's only rushed for 11 times while Peterson has rushed 49 times and he's Canadian. He didn't have any previous return duties when he was on the roster.

Todays IR reports are encouraging except for Parker using a crutch. He's certainly not playing this week.

However, Logan was practising and he could be an option replacing Cooley. He has more experience and could be used on offence a few times if he dresses. Logan has nearly 200 returns on either punt or K/O and he has rushing and receiving experience. That's great versatility to have.

Benson practising is good but Leroux is doing fine so I don't see him being replaced at the moment.

Now we're seeing Collaros, Bryant and Vanterpool all seeming to be available.

The two biggest surprises are:

1. Schoen running which suggests he's not done for the season. This will be game 4 missed so it will be awhile before he's eligible to come off 6 game IR. I won't expect him to come off early.

2. D. Mitchell working out at SB. I have no idea whether he's really being considered to be added. I think I mentioned he could just be used on return duty and as a back up receiver. Cooley would come off to make room.

Peterson did have a couple of K/O returns when he was on the roster for 18 yard average.

[Blueforlife]

Cooley and Allen are both CFL rookies, so that's a bit of a double standard wanting the slow and easy. He's only rushed for 11 times while Peterson has rushed 49 times and he's Canadian. He didn't have any previous return duties when he was on the roster.

Todays IR reports are encouraging except for Parker using a crutch. He's certainly not playing this week.

However, Logan was practising and he could be an option replacing Cooley. He has more experience and could be used on offence a few times if he dresses.

Benson practising is good but Leroux is doing fine so I don't see him being replaced at the moment.

Now we're seeing Collaros, Bryant and Vanterpool all seeming to be available.

The two biggest surprises are:

1. Schoen running which suggests he's not done for the season. This will be game 4 missed so it will be awhile before he's eligible to come off 6 game IR. I won't expect him to come off early.

2. D. Mitchell working out at SB. I have no idea whether he's really being considered to be added. I think I mentioned he could just be used on return duty and as a back up receiver. Cooley would come off to make room.

Peterson did have a couple of K/O returns when he was on the roster for 18 yard average.

After seeing Cooley's success in preseason I was never worried about him seeing action quickly.

On defense I like to slow roast guys, not get them roasted lol.  Allen could be a key member of this club for years to come.  Gotta develop them in a way that ensures long term success. 

Make a strong case for Peterson, didn't know he was returning as well.  Excited for Logan but he will be rusty.

I'm worried about Parker too, agree rest is good news.  Hopefully Lawson and Kramdi are OK.  Kramdi would be a big loss, Lawson a good rotational guy with Thomas.

I didn't know Mitchell was at slot, that's very interesting.

Fingers crossed on Schoen, while some are a little critical of him, he stirs the drink for us big time.

[Blue In BC]

Most of my early hopes for player availability options seem to be there plus a couple I was uncertain about. Logan, Woods and even Mitchell are now options.

I can't honestly say which choices they'll make. A few are obvious but several will be decided during the week.

That said I did suggest we'd probably have some significant roster movement due to healthy players.

I don't think Kramdi or Lawson are injured and were just excused for the day. However if Kramdi can't play it's all the more reason to add Makonzo as a back up at SAM.

Cooley had success in pre season but a lot or running backs do before the starters play.  Most import RB are then nearly immediately released at cut down.

Allen had success as well but pre season is a time when rookies are playing against mostly rookies. 

The biggest comment I'd make is that we have a Canadian RB to back up but we're thin with safety depth, especially if Kramdi can't play.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Most of my early hopes for player availability options seem to be there plus a couple I was uncertain about. Logan, Woods and even Mitchell are now options.

I can't honestly say which choices they'll make. A few are obvious but several will be decided during the week.

That said I did suggest we'd probably have some significant roster movement due to healthy players.

I don't think Kramdi or Lawson are injured and were just excused for the day. However if Kramdi can't play it's all the more reason to add Makonzo as a back up at SAM.

Cooley had success in pre season but a lot or running backs do before the starters play.  Most import RB are then nearly immediately released at cut down.

Allen had success as well but pre season is a time when rookies are playing against mostly rookies. 

The biggest comment I'd make is that we have a Canadian RB to back up but we're thin with safety depth, especially if Kramdi can't play.

Makonzo has been extended on the 6 game.

[Jesse]

Kramdi and Lawson were both walking around in street clothes, so not obviously injured.

Mitchell got reps at slot early but spent most of practice at WR (With Wheatfall and Clercius getting snaps at slot).

[Blue In BC]

Makonzo has been extended on the 6 game.

I forgot about that, so he won't be an option this week and beyond.

[Blue In BC]

Kramdi and Lawson were both walking around in street clothes, so not obviously injured.

Mitchell got reps at slot early but spent most of practice at WR (With Wheatfall and Clercius getting snaps at slot).

I suggested Mitchell at WR and Clercius moving to slot a couple of times as an option. Now he's getting looks all over the place. So that's going to be interesting.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

[peg_city]

Calgary favoured by between 5-6 points

[The Zipp]

they have to do something to kick start the offense.  Zach back will help but they need to ignite both the running game and passing game. 

[barbk]

Kramdi and Lawson were both walking around in street clothes, so not obviously injured.

Mitchell got reps at slot early but spent most of practice at WR (With Wheatfall and Clercius getting snaps at slot).

How did Mitchell do?  Was he in sync with QB?  Was he being team player?  Was OSHEA watching? etc. etc.

[TecnoGenius]

Nic Demski is wearing Dalton Schoen's jersey #83.

Uh, what to read into this?  This usually signifies the dude is an IR disaster, "solidarity" with the ailing player.  Yet Schoen is running?

Confused

[TecnoGenius]

Easy. As I said, all of J. Jones, Kelly and Ball were on coverage teams against the Argos. I didn't say anything about being in the doghouse. I said he seems to have lost his role as a rotational player on defence and may be seeing his duty on ST's diminished. He didn't record an ST in either Argo game.

It's difficult to see who was replaced on ST's on TV but it's reasonable to think Hallett could have been one. Maybe someone at the game can give more information. Maybe he got nicked in the early going.

I went through every kick play in the TOR@WPG game to look for Hallett.  Here's the results:

columns:
kick play #
Block or Coverage play
Mid-level duty  or  Gunner duty  or  "in" (can't tell duty)  or Edge/contain  or  Unseen=could be in no good wide shots or numbers obscured
iot=In On Tackle

1 b m
2 b m
3 b in td
4 c iot
5 b in
6 c g
7 b unseen/badcams
8 b unseen/badcams
9 c m
10 c g
11 fg edge
12 c not-in?
13 b not-in? td
14 c not-in?

HT

1 c not-in?
2 fg not-in?
3 b m
4 c g
5 b in
6 b unseen/badcams
7 b in turnover
8 b g
9 c g? or not-in
10 c wide-contain

I am not including WPG FG attempts, as Hallett doesn't seem to have a role there.  Some "not-ins" he might still be in, as it's VERY easy to confuse #21 and #31 since as soon as Hallett starts running his jersey lifts and you can't tell 2 from 3, and Holm/Hallet are very similar body type.

Conclusion:

Hallett not in for ~ 8 of 24 ST plays, and thus in for 16.  It appears after #12 in 1st H he may have gotten nicked or winded as he was out for a good while.  However, it may also be Mafia trying to get more looks for Kelly/Ball.

He was the key edge kick-blocker on at least 1 FG attempt.

I maintain he's pivotal on ST and will not be benched for any new kid.  He may be more pivotal than Cadwall.  He doesn't get stats because he's often the gunner or the contain.  It's those 2nd level guys that usually get the tackles, by design.

He is a key part of our FG speed kick-blocking unit.

P.S. That's a bucket load of kick plays at 60Y sprints for these guys.  Yikes!

P.P.S. The most important block on the KR TD, other than the masterful 3-4 guy corral of 5-6 TOR guys, was #30 J.Jones.  Cooley wasn't appearing very effective, though he seemed to be in his proper place.  Ball & Kelly both saw reps.  Ball seemed hyped/fast.